#h1-high-heat-strategies

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shy gulch
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49 is hard

solemn pulsar
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49 heat is hard as it turns out

shy gulch
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and i dont think he's done high heat as much recently

spring kettle
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But that high of a high would be tough for anyone

rain sedge
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he got really far and really screwed by the enemy RNG in elysium

daring hedge
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like afaik baj started with high heat and now he's knocking zeus any heat records outta the park

solemn pulsar
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There’s very few people that can crush a 45+ first try

rain sedge
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it was as bad as it gets

agile obsidian
shy gulch
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yeah i think at the very top end, to do that much heat you have to be super fast anyways

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to do like

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JS3 CP2 with TD3

solemn pulsar
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Maybe that 62 heat guy could @true fable

spring kettle
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Yeah, TD3 is basically mandatory

rain sedge
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LMFAO

daring hedge
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CGULL LOL

true fable
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TRUE

rain sedge
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stop zaglol

solemn pulsar
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Oops I said the thing

shy gulch
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so tail u just knock out speedrun records a lot, and baj has been decimating any heat

true fable
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he mustve

sly remnant
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but like.....is there not value in understanding enemy spawns and room layout....just like there is value in not getting heat to maintain high confidence

true fable
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with RI4 too

sly remnant
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he probably has a sub 5

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5 times

daring hedge
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he got lost in the admin chamber 😔 RIP

shy gulch
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LOL

solemn pulsar
shy gulch
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LUL

solemn pulsar
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Oops that should say cgull

spring kettle
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what? did someone do a 62 heat clear recently?

solemn pulsar
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OOPS

rain sedge
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no don't

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it's not

spring kettle
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Highest I last knew was tailesque with 60

rain sedge
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just let it rest

sly remnant
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ye a god gamer did it on fists

gaunt fiber
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@solemn pulsar that's not fair you mentionned it lol

sly remnant
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how good is he

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the world will never know

daring hedge
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tyler lmao

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on fists TWICE

gaunt fiber
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sigh this is gonna last

agile obsidian
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WHERE IS THIS MAN

daring hedge
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sorry i'll stop

sly remnant
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lmfao imagine having to use rama for a paltry 60 heat

rain sedge
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there is gonna be this day

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where baj do 62 yeat

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and y'all are gonna mention this

lusty mirage
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haelian barrel rolling?

spring kettle
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Indeed

agile obsidian
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Yep

daring hedge
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he's tetris'ing now

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no success

gaunt fiber
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Now it's tetris indeed

honest kernel
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for CP2 that is

sly remnant
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how's it feel baj

honest kernel
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CP1 should be doable

sly remnant
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to know that 61 heat

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is NOTHILNG

solemn pulsar
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Wait I should update my name here

rain sedge
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lmfao s t o p

honest kernel
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It's wack

bronze viper
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People will also develop specializations. I know for certain that I can't do 24x40 but I can pretty easily run 45 Rama or Chiron with only a minor to moderate fail rate depending on the day.

daring hedge
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baj and i got barrel rolled by a supergod three times smh

honest kernel
true fable
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baj failed to beat someone who plays on fists

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pplaff

sly remnant
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rename challenge to rolling knuckle

gaunt fiber
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You think you can't 24*40 but even I can @bronze viper

daring hedge
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wait does baj even know about this whole

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situation

honest kernel
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I do

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sorta

solemn pulsar
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There we go

rain sedge
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exactly for this

bronze viper
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You haven't seen me play Stygius. It's a sight to behold

spring kettle
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Hadesprofessor did like 50 heat on every aspect of every weapon

rain sedge
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but it's fine, it's just my personal opinion 🤷‍♀️

rain sedge
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he does it with such

solemn pulsar
spring kettle
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Agreed

gaunt fiber
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Not saying it's ez either, my Zagius 40 took 15 tries easily

rain sedge
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non-chalantness

rain sedge
daring hedge
# honest kernel sorta

in short: 62 heat "completed" three times, pact included: HL4 and no HS as the two heat left off

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two of those with fists

solemn pulsar
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Allegedly

rain sedge
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like, is there anyone who only do 1 weapon, at 50 heat?

bronze viper
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I have 11 attempted sword runs on my Switch HM save. I am currently on the 6 heat bounty (and you start at 5)

spring kettle
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Why did you put it in quotation marks?

daring hedge
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why wouldn't i

agile obsidian
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After reading this I feel bad at my two 32 clearszaglol

true fable
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they completed it

rain sedge
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because usually people who do 50+ heat has a really good understanding of the game to make 40+ heat at most aspects trivial

solemn pulsar
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Well if anyone wants to know about max heat Charon I’ll be in my bunk

true fable
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i have no reason not to believe

rain sedge
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which is my point

gaunt fiber
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HL4 is 80%. So is god mode right? Perfect plan

daring hedge
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lmao

true fable
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cgull and that one guy

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the only two people with experience clearing something of value

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on 62+

solemn pulsar
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Yeet

spring kettle
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Using god mode to make the highest heat doable, perfect plan

honest kernel
solemn pulsar
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Honestly god mode wouldn’t help that much

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Still RI4

gaunt fiber
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yeah

rain sedge
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quick question

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is god mode multiplicative

solemn pulsar
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RI4 is such a gut punch

rain sedge
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or additive

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that is, is HL5 + god mode max = HL1

solemn pulsar
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Even if it’s multiplicative I still don’t think it would help

rain sedge
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or is it like

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.....HL1... ignore me

honest kernel
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God mode won't help the timer issues

solemn pulsar
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You can be more aggressive

bronze viper
solemn pulsar
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But RI4 means you can’t

daring hedge
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yeah that used to be me as well

lusty mirage
daring hedge
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well, actually hades aspect before that nvm

lusty mirage
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my very first 32 (to get statue) had god mode on

daring hedge
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blood price

true fable
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see

rain sedge
true fable
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playing hades spear

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was like playing with training weights on

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similar to how i play on soaker

daring hedge
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it's true

true fable
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you do 50 heat on something terrible

bronze viper
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Yeah you used to be the Hades aspect guy before you became the Hades guy :P

solemn pulsar
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@honest kernel what’s your non shield highest heat cleared

gaunt fiber
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God mode not as good as Different league confirmed

true fable
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to make it easier for something better

daring hedge
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i started getting super into hades spear initially because of wriste essentially

honest kernel
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Tied with Rama, Arthur, Achilles

solemn pulsar
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Ok phew baj is a high heater

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I was worried

daring hedge
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he came in here wondering about lesser explored aspects that could do well at high heat and i was like "hmm mini spins hmmmm"

solemn pulsar
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We’d have to demote him

daring hedge
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then made it reality

rain sedge
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I mean

gaunt fiber
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cgull Schad was not trying to be elitist or anything

rain sedge
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I'm gonna say this one more time

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since you keep throwing potshots at me

shy gulch
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lmfao cgull

rain sedge
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it's just a mental model that I personally use to qualify where I start to get my understanding of the game, and I translate that to other people

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and so far, it works. Baj can do most aspects at 40 heat easily , and so does ledger, because they have that level of understanding of the game

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if there's someone who did 50 heat at any weapon, I believe they will do other aspects easily too

bronze viper
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Lol I'm just saying that there are/were definitely people who could only do 50+ on one aspect. Kind of by definition at some point everyone who can do 50 on multiple had to be able to do it only on one.

rain sedge
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at 40 heat

rain sedge
agile obsidian
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Hades spear epic

gaunt fiber
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50 hard

daring hedge
agile obsidian
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Fax

shy gulch
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hades spear not epic

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:(

solemn pulsar
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I think the zagspects are the best for high heat because zag is the most attuned with them, since they are his personal reflections in weapon form

daring hedge
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lmao

solemn pulsar
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So as he faces large challenges in his fathers domain, he needs familiarity to do well

agile obsidian
solemn pulsar
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Also 15% dodge chance Pog

rain sedge
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Hope I've cleared my position enough, hope we're good @solemn pulsar

daring hedge
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personally i think zag rail is the best for high heat because it has a cool eagle face on it

shy gulch
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nope, we're bad

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we're all bad, we havent done 62 heat

rain sedge
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you're now uh

shy gulch
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😔

solemn pulsar
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The 62 heat guy is bad too bc of that other guy that did 64

rain sedge
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uhhhh

shy gulch
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wait did someone say they did 64

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i thought it was 63

daring hedge
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all gamers are bad actually

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none are good

honest kernel
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^

shy gulch
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woke

solemn pulsar
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True we commit acts of violence

agile obsidian
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Cancel gamers

solemn pulsar
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Or would if we ever went outside

rain sedge
gaunt fiber
daring hedge
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oh no

gaunt fiber
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But a guy was like

rain sedge
gaunt fiber
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"no there are so many red flags"

bronze viper
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Wait really?

daring hedge
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i linked the message lol

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it had every red flag in the book

honest kernel
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Spoilers : It wasn't legit

bronze viper
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Were the shadows wrong?

honest kernel
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So uhm

rain sedge
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nah I think they were just doing it with cheats

true fable
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hades spear is a bad aspect so i respect anyone who can make it work

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🙂

honest kernel
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... we should just get the pic

daring hedge
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here you go

daring hedge
gaunt fiber
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U N A M U S E D

agile obsidian
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It just feels fun to use

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Especially with spin hammers

daring hedge
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it's very fluid when you get the hang of it

sly remnant
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ye thats true

true fable
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i would probably rate it worst spear

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but GY exists

daring hedge
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how could you do this bright

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below zag spear

agile obsidian
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Also have gotten even more partial to it since i got my first em4 clear with it

shy gulch
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see tail

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zag spear can get flurry jab

sly remnant
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i love the fact that i can force myself to stand still and get hit so i can fix my abysmal damage for 8 seconds on enemies that are already killing me

shy gulch
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which is like a top 5 weapon in the game

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hades spear cannot

daring hedge
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key word can

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sometimes

shy gulch
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yeah

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and hades spear can never get it

rain sedge
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where is his mirror?

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in that screenshot

daring hedge
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but it does get attack that hits harder than tissue paper croven

sly remnant
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tghe heat did that 🙂

gaunt fiber
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Your hate blinds you Bright

honest kernel
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Hades spear gets the clearly superior Seratted Point

rain sedge
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is it even possible to play non first run without mirror

honest kernel
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And uses it well

shy gulch
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serrated point STINKY

rain sedge
bronze viper
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Is that a 2 star Hades keepsake?

daring hedge
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yes and also seven dusa charges

gaunt fiber
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I love the gap between the name of the chan and what we actually get

rain sedge
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I didn't even notice that

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where's the mirrorrrrrrrrrrrrrr

gaunt fiber
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ie "x STINKY"

sly remnant
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gamers stinky

daring hedge
gaunt fiber
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he's not wrong

rain sedge
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tbh I could do a run with 7 dusa charges, just buy more in shop

sly remnant
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astaos i thought you had your mirror refunded

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its a scam

daring hedge
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well yes but bad summon + never using it

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is uh.

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hm

sly remnant
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he's a god gamer tail

rain sedge
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I know lol

true fable
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again

daring hedge
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lol

true fable
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i repeat

sly remnant
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why would he need a summon

true fable
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my utmost respect

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to anyone who uses the two bad spears

gaunt fiber
daring hedge
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bright is out for blood rn

true fable
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you are handicapping yourself in a game thats already very hard

gaunt fiber
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Outside of mirrorless ofc

true fable
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LOL

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if only there were a streamer who played hades spear

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who could prove me wrong

sly remnant
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MirrorTalent6 confirmed not a scam my the mirror scammer himself

daring hedge
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:)

true fable
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i think tailesque used to stream

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but i havent seen one recently :/

rain sedge
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I think he also said

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he'll do a fox + cat cam when he does

gaunt fiber
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the two bad spears are Zag and Hades?

rain sedge
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seriously tho tail, when you gonna stream?

daring hedge
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i have classes and work ok!!!

rain sedge
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if you start now haelian will raid you

daring hedge
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this weekend again

honest kernel
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👀

sly remnant
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hell yea

rain sedge
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and you baj

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where is your stream?

daring hedge
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baj you gotta stop by

tidal flame
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b

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a

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j

sly remnant
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i can't wait to watch a fox power shot on rail

rain sedge
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didn't you promise us before you went out to get cigarette

honest kernel
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Stream is ded

daring hedge
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and coach my zeus shield when i do 50

true fable
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NO

honest kernel
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But for real, idk

true fable
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STREAM CANNOT BE DEAD

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baj

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baj

sly remnant
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baj i want to get better at zeus sheild

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shield

rain sedge
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baj if you start streaming now haelian will host you

true fable
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then play it

rain sedge
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DO I T

honest kernel
rain sedge
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envision this in your mind's eye

sly remnant
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my aspect list is broken

rain sedge
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haelian, hosting you

sly remnant
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it only picks beo

rain sedge
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you, with the motivation of 200+ people

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doing 62

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LIVE

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on stream

daring hedge
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schad it's still 62

rain sedge
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and when dad dies all 200+ people will clap

daring hedge
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not that baj can't do it but like

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it's 62

sly remnant
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ye

rain sedge
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I know I'm just trying to bait out his stream

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ssh

sly remnant
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and he uses a coward's aspect

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instead of the chad fists

shy gulch
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? 62 is easy, just use fists

honest kernel
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62 heat is ... reset heavy

daring hedge
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TYLER

honest kernel
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Like, REALLY reset heavy

gaunt fiber
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I don't think 62 is fun to watch

true fable
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the chad fists

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or rail

rain sedge
gaunt fiber
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except on malphon

honest kernel
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Just getting the right core boons is hard as is

daring hedge
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which aspect? we will never know

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not like it mattered to him

honest kernel
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Let alone optimal ones

dire steppe
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do 62 no reset baj we want to see you die

sly remnant
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he probably did it on gilgamesh

shy gulch
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its obviously the best fists aspect

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gilgamesh

gaunt fiber
shy gulch
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dammit tyler

rain sedge
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I heard if someone did 62 on gilgamesh amir will personall grant that person's wish

honest kernel
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I can't even do shackes for EM4

daring hedge
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doomed runs are draining yeah

dire steppe
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it’s not about success it’s about entertainment

shy gulch
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the point isnt to complete 62 heat

daring hedge
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it's to suffer

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smile

honest kernel
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Maybe the barrel roll challenge could be good to stream ?

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Or high heat speedruns

dire steppe
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have you tried running HL4 JS2

sly remnant
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i streamed 6 hours of barrel roll

dire steppe
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instead of RI3

sly remnant
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i got 3 viewers :^)

gaunt fiber
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3 viewers is excellent

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to me

honest kernel
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Viewers aren't what I really care about

daring hedge
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50 heat speed record incoming

honest kernel
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Too rusty at EM3 for that

gaunt fiber
honest kernel
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Crazy, right ?

daring hedge
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astaos since when did you care about big number

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you play GY

gaunt fiber
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lmao

honest kernel
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My main goal with the heat stuff was to push myself, see how far I could go in the first place

gaunt fiber
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I don't

sly remnant
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turns out pretty far

honest kernel
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Yeah

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lmao

sly remnant
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one thing i appreciate about your zeus play is

agile obsidian
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Tail when are you going to stream again?

sly remnant
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you make it look really simple

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and then i'm like

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yea

daring hedge
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this weekend if not thurs night as well pengy

sly remnant
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i can do this

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10 minutes late

agile obsidian
sly remnant
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where the eff is my shield

shy gulch
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literally same tyler

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I can either guide the special well or attack an enemy

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I cannot do both at the same time for the life of me

dire steppe
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what if you stremmed 57 (everything except ri4 and ap) so its not as reset heavy bawj

sly remnant
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i have 200 plus games of chen in dota

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you think i'd be good at it

green citrus
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Creep micro not the same LUL

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You need 200 games of Meepo

gaunt fiber
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Meepo is the little gremlin that clones himself and throws nets right

green citrus
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Yeah haha

true fable
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thursday night....

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wait a minute

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tail strim tomorrow??

sly remnant
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confirmed

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thanks tail

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looki forward to it

true fable
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its penciled in

rain sedge
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with cat cam

sly remnant
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if it gets rained out

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i'll be sad

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i cancelled on my gf

shy gulch
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understandable

gaunt fiber
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Bold move

sly remnant
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she's fine

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we live together anyways

shy gulch
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worth it for our dear fox

rain sedge
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I told my gf we're gonna watch the stream together for our date

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thanks for promising us tail

gaunt fiber
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even better

sly remnant
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schad is chad

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probably plays fists

gaunt fiber
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he sure is

true fable
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i quit my job for this

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wasnt gonna miss a tail stream for anything

green citrus
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I got fired cause I called in just now to watch this.

true fable
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thanks for understanding man

sly remnant
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YOU ARE SELF EMPLOYED PEACH

green citrus
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🙂

gaunt fiber
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Is this an auction or something?

agile obsidian
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Tail what time in the evening?

honest kernel
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Apparently

true fable
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@daring hedge i had to sell a kidney to save up for a sub but it'll be worth it

agile obsidian
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Hopefully I’m not asleep

true fable
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all this for a barrel roll emote

sly remnant
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we pay tail to cuck us

honest kernel
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Speaking of barrel roll

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What's the heat count at

rain sedge
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48

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do me in baj

honest kernel
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Hmm

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I could do it

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But it feels cheap at this level

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Probably with RI4 ?

sly remnant
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FLEXFLEXFLEXFLEX

gaunt fiber
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well sorry

green citrus
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Do it

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I was meme using AP2 shackle at around 32 heat but didn't get anything to submit lmao

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Cause ya'll go too fast

sly remnant
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i had a submittable 40 heat

rain sedge
sly remnant
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and then

rain sedge
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someone pin this flex

sly remnant
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4 sac

novel finch
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4 sac

honest kernel
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You think a 4-sack will stop me ?

novel finch
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Crime

sly remnant
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excuse me baj it was a 12:34

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i just wanted sub 10

novel finch
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w o a h

honest kernel
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Oh

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Right

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Missed a message

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Don't mind me

honest kernel
sly remnant
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yea

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it wouldn't have been insane

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but it would have been submittable

honest kernel
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Almost had a sub-10 myself. Died on the literal last attack

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of Hades

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But that was a while back

sly remnant
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i remember that screenshot

honest kernel
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Wonder how fast I'll go now

sly remnant
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f

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actually i'm glad baj is back

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high-heat-strategies feels complete

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i complain about stuff that doesnt matter and is wrong

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baj and tail flex

shy gulch
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LOL

sly remnant
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retrash comes in with a world record

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all is right with the world

shy gulch
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nyaanyaa casually flames u for being wrong

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then drops the aphro emote

sly remnant
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ye thats true

green citrus
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I see Arthur, I type

sly remnant
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i need nyaanyaa to keep my abysmally small ego in check

honest kernel
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D I D S O M E O N E S A Y Z E U S

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So I was gonna do a few RTA runs for anyheat

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But I might do high heat instead

shy gulch
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do what your heart desires, mr baj

true fable
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do what feels right baj we're just glad to have u back 🙂

dire steppe
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hey tail i just dropped out of school and sold my house cause i had class at the time you were gonna stream, i used the house money to rent out a football stadium for me and all my friends to watch the stream, so it better still be on

sly remnant
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ROFLMAO

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alright

gaunt fiber
sly remnant
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rigged wins

gaunt fiber
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and reset for

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flurry baj

honest kernel
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...

sly remnant
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oh thats funny astaos

gaunt fiber
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I'm out, have a good one

sly remnant
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good job

honest kernel
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I'm surprised I didn't see it sooner

dire steppe
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that pun seems to have created fury baj

green citrus
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Is the @gaunt fiber comedy show before or after tail strim?

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I need to know so I can get fired from my 2nd job

gaunt fiber
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lmao

dire steppe
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watch the stream with your boss

green citrus
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Interesting proposition

honest kernel
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Make watching the stream your new job

dire steppe
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what a part time gig

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2 hours a month

tame mist
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i always die to the third boss (the name is too long) on 32 heat, does this fight tend to be hard on 32 heat or am i just bad (i use em3 btw)

honest kernel
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EM3 fight is legitimately rough

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Especially if you play a melee weapon

agile obsidian
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It can be difficult at the start

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Especially the minotaur

tame mist
honest kernel
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Eris is basically a melee weapon

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Soooo

rain sedge
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is it FO1 or FO2

honest kernel
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^

agile obsidian
tame mist
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bow is the only non melee right

agile obsidian
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Fo em3 is hard

shy gulch
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hestia

sly remnant
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bow and hestia

honest kernel
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^

tame mist
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why hestia?

honest kernel
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The empowered shot has big range

shy gulch
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because u click reload and shoot enemies from 10 miles away

tame mist
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also why does everyone use hestia for loyalty card runs lol

shy gulch
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it’s extremely powerful without boons

agile obsidian
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Charon east to dogfe

honest kernel
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Hestia doesn't need much to get rolling

agile obsidian
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*dodge

shy gulch
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and u don’t get boons in charon%

tame mist
agile obsidian
tame mist
shy gulch
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nah

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just unlikely

tame mist
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oh ok

shy gulch
#

bc so little time

honest kernel
#

You can get Charon as early as chamber 6 I think

#

So yeah

true fable
#

you dont WANT boons

honest kernel
#

At best, 2 boons

true fable
#

they take too much menu time

shy gulch
#

ah the Charon% expert has arrived

true fable
#

and its RTA category

#

please im only top 5

#

idk

#

actually

#

i might be only top 10 now

agile obsidian
#

But for em3 32 hear kill the minotaur first

tame mist
agile obsidian
#

Keep taking jabs at him until he dies

tame mist
#

my man top 5 is really good

agile obsidian
#

Theseus is easy

honest kernel
#

Asterius is why EM3 is a pain

#

Full stop

tame mist
sly remnant
#

cow scary

agile obsidian
#

Yup

rain sedge
#

can furies take damage from falling pillars?

tame mist
honest kernel
#

Theseus ... literally just heckles. Sometimes throws a nuke in your face

agile obsidian
#

His beyblade move is scary

honest kernel
#

Asterius is out for your blood

tame mist
true fable
#

im only highly ranked in charon% because people like BAJ

#

view it as BENEATH them

tame mist
honest kernel
#

No

#

It's a freebie for you to hit him

tame mist
#

also why is em3 so hard in 32 heat?

agile obsidian
#

I would suggest putting em3 on every casual run you do(i did it and it made my 32 clears way easier)

honest kernel
#

HL, FO make the numbers a little bit higher then they should be

tame mist
honest kernel
#

Asterius charge at 72 damage is spooky

agile obsidian
#

Fo minotaur is scary

#

Do you use acorn?

honest kernel
#

I don't dusa

#

But I'd recommend it

tame mist
honest kernel
#

The only small hits are from Theseus' miniguns, and the bumps

tame mist
#

so i dont have time for acorn

honest kernel
#

Everything else is big hits

rain sedge
#

does anyone ever take trove at high heat?

#

TD3

tame mist
#

cuz what if im missing something

rain sedge
#

is it worth it

#

for the ~150g

honest kernel
#

TD3 ? lol nope, at high heat

#

TD2 ? Possible

agile obsidian
#

I had fo2 on in my first 32 and died from minotaur charge

sly remnant
#

if you are running cf2 gold is bad

rain sedge
#

OH MY GOD

#

IT ACTIVATED IT

#

IT WAS NEXT TO THE NEXT ROOM

#

AND IT CLICKED IT

sly remnant
#

you can leave

honest kernel
#

YOU CAN JUST RUN

agile obsidian
#

Rip

sly remnant
#

it doesn't lock you in

honest kernel
#

^

rain sedge
#

I can't interact with the next room

honest kernel
#

Wat

rain sedge
#

oh nevermind

#

I can

#

it was just at the moment

#

I activate it

#

I cant

#

phew

#

it was so scary

daring hedge
tame mist
rain sedge
#

yeah, but just for recording

gaunt fiber
rain sedge
#

I'm not looking at chat or anything

daring hedge
#

lol

rain sedge
#

streaming is just the easiest way to record

#

and if I do 56 heat without video recording @true fable will get on my ass for the next week or so

honest kernel
#

Good call

true fable
#

Food $200
Data $150
Rent $800
Tailesque Twitch sub and gifted subs $80000
someone who is good at economy help me budget this. My family is dying

sly remnant
#

kill your family

honest kernel
#

Maybe you could cut into that Tailesque Twitch Sub

#

?

shy gulch
#

yeah take that money from food data and rent and put more into tailesque subs and gifted subs

#

just trust

daring hedge
#

surely you could live on less food

#

more money for gift subs

shy gulch
#

exactly

sly remnant
#

totally unbiased advice

#

TLQ to the moon

daring hedge
#

100%

rain sedge
#

I'm so bad at the lernie fight 😦

#

keep dying there

daring hedge
#

but schad i gave you tips

rain sedge
#

I tried doing it

#

still died to a lot of aoe/attacks/etc

#

I'm not aware enough to dodge all of them basically

pseudo girder
#

Lernie takes some getting used to since the arena is different on EM2, unlike the other EM bosses

sly remnant
#

yea schad

#

do more em2

rain sedge
#

hmmm good idea

#

totally should get used to it more

#

the embarassing bit was, that run I had athena call, jolted, and unshakable mettle

#

still died

#

just missing that crucial divine dash

daring hedge
#

i'm tellin you, empty dash when the heads are dense

rain sedge
#

I'm building up that habit yeah

#

it's still quite hard for me to focus on all the things I need dodging tho

#

the one time I got divine dash at tartarus I got TD3ed

#

yikeess

agile obsidian
#

Em lernie is the second hardest boss for me afer hades at high heat

#

I die there 50 percent of the time

sly remnant
#

i die in tartarus

#

90% of the time

agile obsidian
#

For me its either lernie or hades

#

I have died like twice in tartarus

#

At 50 it might be different

ripe crane
agile obsidian
#

I’m disappointed that punishing sweep does not count as a curse

daring hedge
#

none of the aspect effects do

agile obsidian
#

Oh

#

Well that sucks

daring hedge
#

curses are exclusive to boons

agile obsidian
#

I’ve never really played around with PS so im now figuring this stuff out

sly remnant
#

man remember when ps was the meta on soaker

#

i member

edgy arrow
#

when was that lmao

daring hedge
#

or when ps was the only option and green mirror wasn't a thing ron

shy gulch
#

^boomer

daring hedge
#

lol

edgy arrow
#

was this some kind of jolted/rupture supersoaker thing

sly remnant
#

when soaker first become a thing yea

#

it was jolted rupture

edgy arrow
#

that’s so impractical

#

but i guess supersoaker itself is fairly impractical so that checks out

daring hedge
#

gamers will do anything for urge to kill adjacent damage

agile obsidian
#

Ay dont hate on supersoaker

edgy arrow
#

you reckon someone somewhere has put urge to kill as S tier in a boon tier list

#

i didn’t hate on it

daring hedge
#

definitely, at least one random gaming site

edgy arrow
#

i said it was impractical

daring hedge
#

"it affects three things so it's incredible"

edgy arrow
#

op pls nerf

agile obsidian
#

Tru it is pretty hard to set up

#

If i don’t need ares and see urge to kill i take it

solemn pulsar
#

best ares boon for non-slicing shot cast builds

#

and non-trivial for artemis

#

builds

#

it's one of those boons that's good, but you never really want it over a different god

true fable
#

urge to kill is in fact a boon

#

in the game

#

hades

#

by supergiant games

vital grove
#

Battle Rage plz

solar maple
edgy arrow
#

wow nice

#

as a fellow beo main, i respect your priorities

#

still working on 50 myself

solar maple
#

beo is good for high heat imo. Until you have to take RI, then it's pretty stinky

edgy arrow
#

pretty much lol

solar maple
#

~52 is about as high as you can go without RI though, so I'm not exactly interested in trying to go higher

#

or 51? how much is the AP2 worth?

edgy arrow
#

5

#

second rank is 3

#

i’d definitely do RI2 before AP2 tho

solar maple
#

If I were to go higher I would try 52 with AP1 no RI, everything else maxed

#

beyond that seems miserable though

edgy arrow
#

if you did that it would be a world record in the current patch

solar maple
#

I just want my mirage shot 😦

edgy arrow
#

sammme

solar maple
#

what are you running for 50?

edgy arrow
#

no RI, no AP2, no DC

#

and it’s not hell mode ofc

solar maple
#

interesting. I ended up doing dc2 no CP

edgy arrow
#

i’ve been considering it ngl

#

CP hurts a lot

sly remnant
#

cf stinky

solar maple
#

less stinky than CP lmao

edgy arrow
#

ehh they’re both pretty stinky

#

actually DC2 no CF might be worth a go

sly remnant
#

that was my 50 clear

solar maple
#

beo with poseidon cast is actually pretty good at clearing DC sheilds

edgy arrow
#

yeah i was gonna say, i thought you ran DC2

#

dunno why i’ve never tried it honestly

solar maple
#

dash attack -> bull rush clears it then casts kill, and wall slams are huge

edgy arrow
#

i think mostly it just annoys me

sly remnant
#

losing out on the damage of bullrush

#

sucks a lot

edgy arrow
#

it probably isn’t as bad as other stuff, but god it’s annoying

sly remnant
#

but boons are cool

edgy arrow
#

truth

#

sounds like i’ll have to tinker a little with my pact

solar maple
#

beo is just so fast that you can get away with all the slow pacts which is so nice

#

my 50 heat run was a 4 sack ffs

edgy arrow
#

i guess if you luck into snow burst DC2 is basically free

#

or as free as anything gets, anyway

solar maple
#

DC is never free, but yeah

#

except on rama

#

then it is free

edgy arrow
#

yeah not like actually free lol

solar maple
#

well still not free on rama but you get the idea

edgy arrow
#

for sure

solar maple
#

My win screens just look really funny with best heat like 14,15,16,50,12,15 or something lmao

edgy arrow
#

life goals right there

solar maple
#

my spear heat pb is 10 which was my first EM4 clear LMAO

edgy arrow
#

so do you just like, not play the other weapons much?

#

because those gaps are very big lol

solar maple
#

I just only went for heat pbs, and only ever won on shield

#

did a good number of tries on rama, eris, and zeus

edgy arrow
#

oh so you’re like, jumping straight to 40+ or whatever?

#

that makes sense

solar maple
#

I went 32 -> 40 -> 50

edgy arrow
#

ohh i see what you mean

#

you’re pushing overall heat not weapon heat

solar maple
#

yeah exactly

edgy arrow
#

i did something similar for a while with aspects

solar maple
#

I could probably do 32 without much trouble on most aspects

edgy arrow
#

i only cared about my weapon PBs and just never played the aspects i was bad at

solar maple
#

40 would give me trouble though I think

edgy arrow
#

if you can do 50 on anything you can do 24x32 no problem

#

24x40 is definitely a big step up

solar maple
#

you havent seen me play fists lmao

edgy arrow
#

i’m still working on that as well

#

merciful end cheese exists if you need it

#

that’s how i got my gilgamesh 32 lol

rain sedge
#

I got pinged

solar maple
#

beo mains are obsessive it turns out

#

I'm not really a beo main anymore though

rain sedge
#

oh you're an outlier, interesting

rain sedge
#

I'd eat a hat if you find difficulty doing 40 heat at least on all weapons tho

solar maple
#

40 heat is hard

rain sedge
#

so many beo mains at high heat

sly remnant
#

its fun

rain sedge
#

big number good

#

tbh I got tired of playing a low damage aspect like eris at high heat

#

the 56 clear might not happen after all, since I am bad

edgy arrow
#

it’s worth noting that doing a beo 50 clear probably isn’t as indicative of ability with other aspects as doing basically any other 50 heat clear

#

not because it’s easier but because it’s weirder

solar maple
#

dragon rush goes BRRR

edgy arrow
#

i’m definitely closer to beo 50 than i am to gilga 40 but that’s probably not normal

rain sedge
#

gilga 40 ugly

#

felt about 2x worse than the nemesis 40, and the nemesis 40 felt real bad

solar maple
#

I don't think I could do 40 heat fists in a day

#

maybe a week

rain sedge
#

arent you a speedrunner?

solar maple
#

I'm so bad at fists haha

rain sedge
#

surely demeter 40 wouldnt be that hard if youve done beo 50

solar maple
#

fists are my worst weapon in speedruns too

edgy arrow
#

speedrunners aren’t automatically good at fast aspects

solar maple
#

I don't even have a sub 9 LMAO

#

my rama time is faster than my dem time

#

also speed is very different from high heat. You keep the mechanical skill, but you have to approach it differently

#

other than on beo where you still just blindly bull rush into things

rain sedge
#

I just thought demeter is the weapon of choice for 3 weapons speedrun

solar maple
#

for most people yeah, but not for me

sly remnant
#

most people's 3 weaps is achilles, hera/beo, eris

solar maple
#

I do [whatever I feel like on the day] -> beo -> eris

green citrus
#

Ananke will do fists in his three wep but yeah most don't because achilles and beo can be stupid fast

honest kernel
#

If I ever did 3 weps, I'd probably do Achilles -> Zeus -> Eris

solar maple
#

I usually do nem or achiles first

#

but I don't do 3weps much anyway

sly remnant
#

my nemesis is passable

#

its fun

solar maple
#

nem is super fun

rain sedge
#

nem must be like bottom 5 in terms of aspect fun-ness for me

#

but it's just because I'm so bad at dash striking consistently

solar maple
#

I got a bit burned out once I started resetting for double edge, but it's still a fun wep

rain sedge
#

quick q before I try to sleep for the second time

#

is your avatar sudowoodo because your name is pseudo and it's vocally similar?

solar maple
#

yeah haha

agile obsidian
#

I get achilles and eris but zrus

#

*zeus

sly remnant
#

if you are the best zeus shield player in the world

#

it is

honest kernel
#

Consistent-ish weapon. Takes a lot of practice

#

Unless you like the weapon a lot, chances are, you should go for Beo instead

#

I just happen to have apparently super consistent times with Zeus shield ?

#

Still surprises me

solar scroll
#

Cause you believe in the heart of the beyblade

rain sedge
sly remnant
#

i think any heat is more reliable the better you are at a weapon

solar maple
#

I agree. learning the highroll strats/how to clear easy rooms is much easier than backup strats/hard rooms

#

so as you get better you get more consistent

#

obv hades is an rng game still though

agile obsidian
#

For three weapons i would take eris achilles and hera

#

Actually swap hera for dem

sly remnant
#

theres always rng

#

but not sub 10'ing on any heat beo is v hard for me

#

hell my barrel rolls have been consistent sub 13

agile obsidian
#

Getting better times for me has always been just keep trying

green citrus
#

Once you get good at any weapon your times get consistent.

#

I tried about 400 different builds on Arthur and they all ended up at Heroes around the same time if I was hauling.

#

Free rooms made the difference

sly remnant
#

ye but then you figured out arthur

agile obsidian
#

I just kinda got used to how to clear rooms efficiently with the weapon

green citrus
#

I mean, agreed, there was definitely one way that stood out above others, but otherwise it was pretty consistent.

sly remnant
#

i think you can sub 7 arthur

agile obsidian
#

I only got 2 fountain/chaos on my sub 10

sly remnant
#

but its gonna take a grind

#

@green citrus have you looked at lili's spawn pattern guide

agile obsidian
#

Where is that

green citrus
#

Yeah I agree, my asphodel in that run was really not great.

Damn he done with that already

sly remnant
#

sec

agile obsidian
#

I dont know i thing about spawning and stuff

green citrus
#

Only the any heat WR holder would break it down to where stuff spawns tbh lol

shy gulch
#

I’m late but seconding the fact that zeus shield is incredibly consistent and very fast, but it REALLY requires you to know what you’re doing with it

#

beowulf is also fast and consistent, and is a bit less skill demanding imo

agile obsidian
#

I tried my first zeus run today and it was extremely fun but i felt weird using it

shy gulch
#

like its a difficult weapon to know how to play but zeus shield is a different tier of skill demanding

agile obsidian
#

It was cool to use

#

But I’m pretty bad

#

So

solar maple
#

beo is pretty unga bunga once you figure out how many casts it takes to kill things

#

and for 50 heat the answer is "all of them"

sly remnant
#

i'm gonna start streaming with this

#

and just always look at it

agile obsidian
#

My next goal is sub 9

green citrus
#

It's even broken down like a strategy guide my lord

#

We do not deserve Lili

agile obsidian
#

Is half of this written in French?

green citrus
#

? Mine is in English

agile obsidian
#

Nvmd it’s only the table of contents

green citrus
#

I mean he is French so checks out lol

agile obsidian
#

Yeah

sly remnant
#

This is the stuff

#

That allows us to push higher heat

agile obsidian
#

Lili op

solar maple
#

I mean speed is important to high heat

agile obsidian
#

I personally enjoy doing speedruns more than high heat just bcs of like the thrill and adrenaline

#

Its fun

mossy zinc
#

I don't get any adrenaline rush doing speedruns at all.

sly remnant
#

Congrats

agile obsidian
#

Idk my hands start shaking and i get excited

#

Especially in elysium if I have a good run going

#

I’m not amazing at it but it’s still fun

green citrus
#

It definitely feels great when you nail a time. But I will inevitably feel the same about 50 heat so lol

agile obsidian
#

I like when i have a good rhythm going

edgy arrow
#

i get a rush speedrunning, but i have to be going much faster than usual

#

a small PB doesn’t do it for me for whatever reason

#

hence why i don’t do speedruns ig

vital grove
#

Some good tips in that guide for sure

#

Hey does PS boost ME damage if you have exposed on your activator

honest kernel
#

Yes

vital grove
#

So chaos shield could be a decent ME vessel

honest kernel
#

Eh

#

Not really that amazing at it

mossy zinc
#

ME, Thunder Flourish, and Drunken Flourish were Chaos Aspect meta back in Early Access.

honest kernel
#

Yeah

#

Alas, the nerf took away ME and Drunken Flourish

mossy zinc
#

So yeah, still works. Not as good, though. But it's still ME.

honest kernel
#

Speaking of Drunken Flourish

#

maybe I shouldn't underestimate it

#

Mom pom start

mossy zinc
#

Hangover pom scaling is really really good.

honest kernel
#

Yeah

#

And, best of all : Global Damage modifiers are nuts on it

#

Which falls perfectly under my Ruthless Reflex strats

mossy zinc
#

Bad Influence is huge, too.

honest kernel
#

Honestly ? Bad Influence is too hard to proc in a speedrun context. In high heat ? It's much more likely to be useful, what with BP and JS running around

mossy zinc
#

This channel is a high heat context. dusa

honest kernel
#

So, it is good

vital grove
#

That's a damn good time

#

Think it's better than Arty though?

#

Could go drunken dash

sly remnant
#

I like the drunken dash idea

vital grove
#

Aph attack, Arty special, drunk dash, Zeus call

#

Oh btw

#

A boon I never see mentioned but love getting, proud bearing from Athena

#

So good for faster rooms

gaunt fiber
#

Yeah it's really good

sly remnant
#

I suspect hades keepsake as being severely underused at high heat

vital grove
#

I took it for my chiron 46 that failed

#

Just to get a bit more speed as a gamble

sly remnant
#

When I was doing my 50 I used it for the same thing in elysium

#

If I didn't have mirage shot

#

Fills a slot and makes rooms faster.

#

Also JS BP rooms take forever in elysium so you'll build the call a lot

vital grove
#

The damage boost is nice for doom+hang builds

#

On max anyway

edgy arrow
#

is it really better than the consistency of skull earring tho

#

i mean idk

#

depends how fast you charge call i guess

vital grove
#

Dunno, but sigil also makes you invincible for a bit

edgy arrow
#

true

waxen relic
#

Every Call has i-frames.

edgy arrow
#

and sigil plays nicer with patty

gaunt fiber
#

Eat a sweep, Sigil call, eat a sweep again squirtyay

vital grove
#

DARKNESS.

#

'I'm right here, boy!'

agile obsidian
#

Sigil is a 100% damage bonus right?

edgy arrow
#

yeah

agile obsidian
#

Ok that’s what i thought

#

And its global?

waxen relic
#

global and for 1.5 seconds for a small call iirc

agile obsidian
#

So only after you use the call?

waxen relic
#

The Keepsake has two Functions: 1. Get Hades Aid 2. Epic Proud Bearing

#

If you're not using the call there's no benefit

agile obsidian
#

Ohhh

#

I’m dumb

rain sedge
#

how big, and can you explain?

waxen relic
#

I've heard that here i think. It's basically just when the effect comes into play i think

agile obsidian
#

So I need proud bearing if I’m speedrunning and have the sigil on?

waxen relic
#

I'm no Speedrunner. But seems good to instantly trigger it

agile obsidian
#

Ok

#

I tested it out and it seems like there is already a small damage bonus i think

#

I tested the fists out on skelly and then with the sigil in tartarus and the damage went up a bit

waxen relic
#

Family Favorite? High Confidence?

agile obsidian
#

Probably family favorite

#

You’re right

waxen relic
#

But not from Hades Aid itself right?

agile obsidian
#

Probably not

#

It was the first chamber

#

And i got a boon with ff on

#

And it did not look like a 100% bonus

edgy arrow
#

it’s a pretty brief window, but it’s usable

rain sedge
edgy arrow
#

same with summon

rain sedge
agile obsidian
gaunt fiber
rain sedge
agile obsidian
#

Oh that’s speedrunning?

rain sedge
#

!badbot

gaunt fiber
#

No I'm joking

#

I think Schad meant that there's a speedrun discord

agile obsidian
rain sedge
#

I pmed you

agile obsidian
#

Thx

agile obsidian
#

Trying my first 40 heat with eris

#

Here we go

onyx venture
#

Good luck!

rain sedge
#

good luck

#

it's free-ish with eris, you got this

agile obsidian
#

Thx

vital grove
#

It's not free

#

But Eris gonna Eris

#

So hey anyone doing 49 for the BR?

gaunt fiber
#

3hot5me

vital grove
#

I think it's beyond my skill

sly remnant
#

Hades keepsake is better than skull earring in the situation where you need to speed up your clear and don't have a key duo

agile obsidian
#

Made it to elysium

rain sedge
#

you promised me 50 GY astaos

gaunt fiber
#

Yeah I will

vital grove
#

You promised us 48 chiron

gaunt fiber
#

But I'll clear 50 before 49 if that makes sense to you

vital grove
#

😢

rain sedge
#

it was impossible, I gave up

#

maybe 46

#

like 45 would be super doable

#

but not 48

#

needs a tail/retrash/hadesprofessor level skill to do it

vital grove
#

Schad

#

You can DO IT

rain sedge
#

can I? sure

vital grove
#

Hell yeah

rain sedge
#

do I want to reset to get optimum boons, not cloner enemies, just to do a 48 heat that everyone will forget in an hour?

#

hell nah

#

basically when you get cloner enemies at JS3 your run is kinda over, you'll get TD-ed

#

because the special just keep getting blocked

#

there's just too many inconvenient runkillers that it becomes sufficiently grindy at my skill level to do

gaunt fiber
rain sedge
#

do people even look at the sheet below 50 heat