i nearly did this by accident while filling out my hell mode save lmao
#h1-high-heat-strategies
daring hedge
shy gulch
LMAO
daring hedge
not the mirrorless part but like
shy gulch
that wouldve been fun
daring hedge
oh cool GY unlocked- ah wait i did this whole run with level 1
shy gulch
a
edgy arrow
see? he isn’t even intimidated
mossy zinc
PL doesn't matter if you don't get hit.
gaunt fiber
Yes
edgy arrow
CP mirrorless sounds like pain for sure
gaunt fiber
And not getting hit is hard
shy gulch
i missed these nyaanyaa comments
tidal flame
Astaos bad, Nyaanyaa good, upvote to the left. Praise Geraldo.
daring hedge
croven's been busy being a little gremlin elsewhere
gaunt fiber
yeah but i havent seen any of them
I've already tanked that one that's what I mean
shy gulch
indeed tail
tidal flame
I don't get the gremlin meme there
gaunt fiber
croven's been busy being a little gremlin elsewhere
That name is top tier in my book
tidal flame
Someone fill me in?
daring hedge
it's simple
shy gulch
its a stupid inside joke
daring hedge
croven = little gremlin
fallow stream
Someone fill me in?
30%
tidal flame
I know that one
daring hedge
gottem
gaunt fiber
Ah
mossy zinc
Astaos is working on 61 Heat Guan Yu mirrorless.
gaunt fiber
The pain
shy gulch
i forget did u get WR
gaunt fiber
Oh yeah I did
gaunt fiber
8"31
shy gulch
p pog
shy gulch
do u need charged skewer to go sub 9 w GY btw
gaunt fiber
Astaos is working on 61 Heat Guan Yu mirrorless.
I wish I could achieve that
Serrated would do it too
mossy zinc
i forget did u get WR
Cute that he used to think he couldn't do TD3.
gaunt fiber
Haha
gaunt fiber
I've got some good teaching since
shy gulch
i dont really hate myself too much
mossy zinc
Who taught you?
gaunt fiber
The name's Nyaanyaa Mewmew
green citrus
Weird name
gaunt fiber
i dont really hate myself too much
Guan Yu is an incredible aspect dude
daring hedge
sell it
mossy zinc
Oh yeah, that's true. 
shy gulch
is this whats called stockholm syndrome
daring hedge
lmao
gaunt fiber
Here we go again
green citrus
My my
mossy zinc
Here we go again
green citrus
That one sounds pretty good 🙂
gaunt fiber
Yeah true
green citrus
High heat gang, is sub 10 Arthur 40 heat worth grinding?
mossy zinc
I mean if you want to do it.
gaunt fiber
That would be super impressive
gaunt fiber
But it will come down to the same as any heat
shy gulch
time 2 lurk
green citrus
Any heat the struggle man
shy gulch
just do mom pom arthur but 50 heat
green citrus
I don't think anyone would want to break sub 10 Arthur 40 heat though so that seems like a safe record
mossy zinc
1. Be kind.
shy gulch
is nyaanyaa really gonna be the one to remind us of this rule
daring hedge
High heat gang, is sub 10 Arthur 40 heat worth grinding?
yes because the only person who will do it is you
also i want to watch that
green citrus
Exactly what I'm thinking LUL
gaunt fiber
is nyaanyaa really gonna be the one to remind us of this rule
It's funny that every time someone says something like that
gaunt fiber
Tail is right
green citrus
I was real close last time, I got 10:38 with a 3 sack
green citrus
I appreciate the support ❤️ haha
gaunt fiber
Then you'll come in #h1-builds-and-combat
green citrus
I really want that any heat sub 8 too though, it's a drag one way or the other haha
gaunt fiber
Everytime they go like "I like Arthur but it's so sloooow man"
Slam that 40 heat sub 10
green citrus
Hahahaaaa, you're so right
daring hedge
you're def gonna get a run with just a randomly crazy elysium and overall pace, 2sack etc, like
before my 8:36 40 heat my patch best was like 10m
you'll def get it with arthur
green citrus
Yeah, I definitely see something crazy happening too. Thing is, 8:36 is blazing for Arthur even at any heat lol
daring hedge
oh i know i just mean sub 10
shy gulch
its wild
daring hedge
absolutely possible with your ability
green citrus
I'm working with room rng at this point, it's like gambling irl
gaunt fiber
Yeah I'm still amazed by these double dash backstab crits
green citrus
With Ruthless Reflex too 
green citrus
Yeah super unlikely haha. I'm probably going to run a deadly reversal build for 40 heat
green citrus
Probably just because it has more options for me off rip. But it also makes sense to start arti keepsake and then pendant in aspho
I need a natural arti or athena in tart either way really
green citrus
loooollll, DR really is as high roll as ME imo. It needs so many damn boons
If it was any other sword, I could use DR well with special but not arthur
Too dang slow
gaunt fiber
Phalanx shot deflect let's go
sly remnant
I like phalanx
torn vapor
And Phalanx likes you too 
spiral island
Well I love Phalanx
wanton plover
And Phalanx likes you too <:blobhug2:583258319150645248>
i love that emote
halcyon flame
is sisyphus' healing affected by lc?
shy gulch
yeah
fallow stream
Unless they patched it, I believe the only thing that circumvents LC at 100% is stubborn roots
shy plinth
Guan Yu
mossy zinc
Guan Yu spin, Cursed Slash, Draining Cutter, Stubborn Roots, and Quick Recovery are unaffected by LC.
halcyon flame
just had a great 32 heat arthur run going but i ran out of time in elysium :)
wanton plover
:(
halcyon flame
i'm starting to appreciate npc rooms more because the timer isn't ticking and i don't have to frantically dash to the exit
halcyon flame
decent amount of time and got broken resolve + heart rend in styx
terrible dps
died :((
wanton plover
:( x2
halcyon flame
i was trying for an extremely safe damage reduction build
you can tell how that worked out with td3
opal token
I find it very difficult to combine dodging with doing enough dmg to clear td3
Which is why I still have 100% healing on at 32 Heat haha
halcyon flame
i think next time i'll go for an aphro build with exposed on dash and doom on special
hopefully raw damage with p.status and boiling blood will do me better
and also a 2-sack
wanton plover
td2 should be possible for every aspect but td3 does feel hard sometimes
halcyon flame
i think i'd be getting more consistency out of aphro on attack and divine dash
gaunt fiber
Grats Tisiphone handholder
edgy arrow
nice
wait have you done 40 on sword but only just cleared 32 on rail
respect
take that eris
chilly sun
thank you!!!
chilly sun
only shield and spear left, i'd say this was a perfect run if i didnt get merciful end in the STYX
edgy arrow
better than no ME at all, but i feel you
chilly sun
yea!! dire misfortune did a lot of work honestly because up to the styx it was just. doom and athena dash as i try not to die to the deadline
edgy arrow
doom on attack for fists is surprisingly decent, even before ME
used properly its comparable DPS to lightning strike apparently, which is extremely counter intuitive to me but the math checks out
chilly sun
take that eris
also forgot to reply to this but I'm so glad someone else is tired of eris i see it everywhere
edgy arrow
yeah it can get a bit one note sometimes
chilly sun
i get that it's amazing but man :|
edgy arrow
lol yeah
like, i don't mind if its someone's favourite weapon because they think its fun, but it seems like half the playerbase only plays it because someone told them it was OP
which is true, but variety is the spice of life and all that
chilly sun
Agreed!!!
And I really like the gimmick weapons like Rama more myself, i feel like it's good to have a balance between good build and fun build
edgy arrow
my favourite weapon is beowulf so agreed
prime lintel
Love Beowulf, it's still my only 32 clear
prime lintel
the special hammer?
edgy arrow
i always get charged shot and charged flight confused
prime lintel
or do you mean the Rush hammer?
prime lintel
Charged flight is the special i think, Shot is the Rush hammer
edgy arrow
yeah that's correct
chilly sun
the special sorry!
edgy arrow
both are really good on beo
prime lintel
Ooooh, maybe I'll try that next time
chilly sun
Agreed!;
gaunt fiber
also forgot to reply to this but I'm so glad someone else is tired of eris i see...
dw I'm hating Eris too whenever I can
chilly sun
you're very valid
chilly sun
if works but only if you get the hammer
edgy arrow
charged flight might lowkey be the key to getting beo to work at 55+
that's purely theoretical atm tho
chilly sun
a good way to approach higher heat i feel is to go along with the hammer you are given and build around it
I've seen a 57 heat clear with aphro special and charged flight so!
halcyon flame
which hammers are best for beo at 32 heat?
gaunt fiber
when was this
Me yesterday forgot to talk about it sry
edgy arrow
oh
chilly sun
wait who did that
It was a while ago i can send you the link;
halcyon flame
does the block hammer affect cast damage or just attack damage and move speed?
chilly sun
I saw it on yt
edgy arrow
which hammers are best for beo at 32 heat?
charged shot is the big one, but sudden rush, ferocious guard and dashing wallop are all up there
gaunt fiber
F
halcyon flame
does ferocious guard affect casts?
chilly sun
charged shot is basically rama that can block
edgy arrow
does ferocious guard affect casts?
yup
chilly sun
ooooo
halcyon flame
sudden rush is great but maybe not so much on beo since a big part of using it effectively is only charging up to certain point
chilly sun
I like ferocious guard honestly though then again I haven't played shield in literal months
edgy arrow
sudden rush is absolutely still great on beo
halcyon flame
dashing wallop is nice since i use dash-attack so often with beo, it feels so powerful
edgy arrow
yeah pulverizing blow is also really good
edgy arrow
https://youtu.be/BrIpp47yBfs
okay this would've been before the charged flight nerf
at that time the record was 52 heat using basically exactly the same build
chilly sun
ohhhh ok!!!
halcyon flame
how does pulverizing blow look with beo
edgy arrow
it good
chilly sun
big number go brrr
hmm i think I'll do guan yu for 32 heat
Probably with deflecto spins or arty special, whichever hammer ends up on my hands
halcyon flame
achilles + hunting blades is pretty great from what i've heard
chilly sun
It's absolutely insane but I'm not very good with achilles
halcyon flame
achilles can be a bit hard to get a handle on
halcyon flame
should i take chaos on high heat?
onyx venture
I do, but I'm no expert. If you're running SD there isn't much reason not too except maybe if using AP2
halcyon flame
yeah that seems fair
onyx venture
It still helps with time, which is important
halcyon flame
should i only take it in later sections?
i personally wanna make sure my hp is above 30% for as long as possible throughout the run
onyx venture
I take Chaos every time (with rare exception) unless it's right before a boss
gaunt fiber
I used to be afraid of Chaos in high heat
but usually it's nice
Oh and most of the time my health was too low back then 
halcyon flame
gonna go on another arthur 32 heat attempt, any high heat players willing to send me tips aside from which boons i should get
gaunt fiber
make use of the dashes to repositon in between your slashes
backstab
don't get hit if you're hp is gonna fall to the 0 threshold
edgy arrow
don’t use the special too much
it’s good, but often isn’t necessary and can be a distraction
plus the animation takes 800 years so no reason to commit to it if you don’t need to
halcyon flame
i'd like to think my main downfall was my reaction time suddenly jumping out of the window but it was more likely just that my dps was reeaaalllyy bad
gonna try using antos and going for aphro on attack, exposed on dash and maybe doom on special if the opportunity arises
or maybe hunting blades since i'm already using a close-range weapon and can slow down enemies
gaunt fiber
plus the animation takes 800 years so no reason to commit to it if you don’t nee...
ikr, like Zag is trying to lodge it in a rock
halcyon flame
being able to dash during the special animation helps
edgy arrow
to be fair, how will we find out who is king if no one lodges in it there real good
gaunt fiber
That's right
edgy arrow
although actually
halcyon flame
if zag can lodge it into the ground and then easily pull it out immediately after does that make him king?
gaunt fiber
I think so
edgy arrow
my arthurian myth knowledge isn’t the best, but iirc Excalibur was the sword given to Arthur by the lady of the lake, not the one in the stone
so Zag should really yeet it into a pond if he wants to help out
gaunt fiber
my arthurian myth knowledge isn’t the best, but iirc Excalibur was the sword giv...
Yeah in most versions they're different swords
sometimes they mix
A fun myth for sure
edgy arrow
fair yeah i guess there’s never one version of these things
edgy arrow
if zag can lodge it into the ground and then easily pull it out immediately afte...
maybe technically, but is it really fair if he pulls it out immediately without giving anyone else a chance?
seems kinda dodgy
halcyon flame
so Zag should really yeet it into a pond if he wants to help out
but that means he loses stygius
then again is stygius even that good?
edgy arrow
but that means he loses stygius
hmm i know a song about how i’d feel if this happens
it’s called
Good Riddance
halcyon flame
goddamnit i was about to say that
edgy arrow
great minds lmao
edgy arrow
“press Q to yeet weapon irretrievably”
vital grove
Press F10 to lodge sword in stone
mossy zinc
Yeah, Arthur pulls the Master Sword out of a stone, and then he throws it into a lake, and the Lady of the Lake gives it back to him, and then it's Excalibur.
gaunt fiber
And then Link finds it somehow
mossy zinc
That's just silly. Link doesn't use Excalibur.
gaunt fiber
I'll tell you some useless info
In the french translation of A link to the past, the Master Sword simply became "Excalibur".
halcyon flame
time for spear
i can't wait to be forced to get sub 19 or less with the spear on extremely high difficulty
tidal flame
Spear hard hate spear
halcyon flame
oh i'm sure i'll do fine with achilles and hunting blades
btw i just noticed tailesque has a "120 heat" run video, was there just no max heat at some point in early access?
mossy zinc
Spear is easy, just get Flurry Jab.
daring hedge
btw i just noticed tailesque has a "120 heat" run video, was there just no max h...
Heat numbers were more inflated back then, and 120 was roughly equivalent to 32 now
halcyon flame
how could you even deal with enemies being so ridiculously tanky?
and 72 damage when your max health is only 125... yikes
daring hedge
Lack of tight deadline made it possible lol
halcyon flame
was speedrunning even a thing back then?
y'know what with it taking nearly a full minute to kill an exalted shade
vital grove
In the french translation of A link to the past, the Master Sword simply became ...
Not Durandal? Weird.
shy plinth
Seeded seemed to be more popular back in the old days from the vids I've found
gaunt fiber
I thought for a sec that you were ranking legendary weapons by popularity
spiral island
Hey lads I beat 32 heat on my first try of the day
true fable
all gamers 💯
shy gulch
congrats!
true fable
thats why i use gamers
regardless of gender we are all identified by our enslavement by the serotonin machine
shy gulch
💯
true fable
LOL
spiral island
No problem mate
shy gulch
thats the nicest someones been to me all year
shy gulch
ok gamer
spiral island
Well, it’s only February so I guess that’s not so bad
true fable
yes but they are not mutually exclusive
spiral island
People should really be nicer to eachother
Just generally
I like to be nice to people, and you’ve helped me out quite a bit Croven.
spiral island
If I had nectar, I’d give it to you.
spiral island
Froggers
spiral island
Yes
rain sedge
lmfao you actually changed it
shy gulch
i did indeed
spiral island
But of course
Alright, time to unveil my final prize
Wow... it looks so
Valiant
Worth it I’ll say
gaunt fiber
Nice name
somber oracle
still not great at higher heats, should i work up to it bit by bit or just learn in the run?
vital grove
On the subject of gender neutrals
How do you address they/them with sir/madam/miss etc, is there something?
gaunt fiber
still not great at higher heats, should i work up to it bit by bit or just learn...
Maybe try some pact combos, getting used to LC4, that kind of thing
shy gulch
still not great at higher heats, should i work up to it bit by bit or just learn...
this is mostly personal preference, I went up one by one till I got to 20 on like a few weapons, some people jumped around
shy gulch
How do you address they/them with sir/madam/miss etc, is there something?
Captain
gaunt fiber
But do the 20-32 jump it's fun
somber oracle
yeah i mean tbh captain does work i use cap as part of my name on twitch so people call me cap akjsdkjasd
gaunt fiber
Or call by the name it's ok
somber oracle
and thanks y'all! gonna try these things
shy gulch
yeah np, come back if u got more questions
vital grove
Or call by the name it's ok
What if they're a stranger
gaunt fiber
I don't talk to strangers
shy gulch
problem solved
gaunt fiber
Too scared
rain sedge
still not great at higher heats, should i work up to it bit by bit or just learn...
general advice is pinned, but if I'm you, I'd try "components" of said advice in isolation
so try doing TD3, can you clear it in time? get familiar with EM3, do BP2 to check out the armored enemy combos, etc etc
I think most importantly get used to FO1/FO2, because that will change your dodge/gameplay timing
good luck!
shy gulch
that’s a good start then yeah
somber oracle
that's like when i just need to fill out like 6 heat to get bounties
shy plinth
Fo2 makes the game much more difficult
So if you're having trouble scaling maybe don't start there
It's so punishing to try out hard labor if you're already on fo2
Where are you running into a wall?
somber oracle
i havent done any of those all together
gaunt fiber
You even have a sequence
shy plinth
Yeah it's a v common question
rain sedge
UC and CF tho hat
shy plinth
And I really like starting out with em BP mm just to get used to them
Yeah those are debatable obv
Could easily just run fo1 though
If they're used to fo2 already
somber oracle
yeah i use fo2 for like. fun
shy plinth
I don't have as much fun when asterius kills me lol
rain sedge
eeeeh whatever, that list works I guess
shy plinth
But props for that
somber oracle
i had a like. 32 run streak? where i always had some level of FO
rain sedge
alright good luck and have fun
somber oracle
thanks y'all! gonna start workin on it
shy plinth
Schad put together a lot of useful info though it's aimed at 32 instead of 16 but it should apply
Can just ease off the hard labor and lasting consequences
waxen relic
I'm not seeing the value of constantly switching Tight Deadline on and off nor am i sure about EM3 as soon as possible, but sure, ain't gonna hurt in the long run.
mossy zinc
Where are you running into a wall?
Where are you running into a wall, and when are you intending to climb it?
shy plinth
Where are *you* running into a wall, and when are you intending to climb it? <:s...
I've got 4 weapons on 32! Gotta get two more and then considering if I want to push more heat or go for all aspects
dire steppe
32! heat sounds scary
mossy zinc
I didn't do sub 10 until well after I did 52. It's a very different focus.
dire steppe
LC20 would actually make the game easier than LC4 lol
mossy zinc
What is this advice you're looking for, and why would I give it to you if you can't say please nor address me by my rightful title? 
rain sedge
I've got 4 weapons on 32! Gotta get two more and then considering if I want to p...
finish 6x32 first I think, then push 40 heat
then 45 or something
all aspects can be very unfun
tidal flame
What is this advice you're looking for, and why would I give it to you if you ca...
Literally who?
shy plinth
Makes sense
true fable
is 45 heat all aspects or 50 heat all weapons a more sane goal 
rain sedge
you've done beo, rail is very doable for a competent player like you, rama is doable with so many footage from tail
true fable
ive done rail
rain sedge
wtf
true fable
have not done bow/sword/spear/fists
rain sedge
I'm bad now
true fable
hestia baby
rain sedge
I have to do 54/56 soon before I have to change my name to very casual again
you can do bow bright
and maybe fish for ME on fist
amber totem
Max heat is 63 right
sly remnant
64 with hell mode
amber totem
how u get hell mode
sly remnant
Start a new save file. Its an option at the creation screen below the save slot rectangle
amber totem
Oh no wonder... Thanx bro @sly remnant
I'm like doing 1 heat at a time for each weapon... Its at 16 now.. Long way to go
Wan to do a complete bounty run
wraith imp
Hi. It's been a while. I'm checking in to ask what's the new highest heat completed...anyone know?
halcyon flame
32 heat advice with beo?
halcyon flame
it could help with getting swarmed
halcyon flame
plus last time i ran trippy flare it literally decimated elysium
spiral island
Extra cast I mean
halcyon flame
even on non-cast builds i straight up just don't get fully loaded because the prereqs are consistently getting pushed to the side by other boons, even t2s
spring kettle
Artemis's legendary is elusive, much like herself
spiral island
Yeah
spring kettle
Whereas Aphrodite gives her legendary out like it's candy
spiral island
Unfortunately the one I need is from Dio
halcyon flame
Whereas Aphrodite gives her legendary out like it's candy
when i try to get fully loaded she just tucks it away but when i try to get unhealthy fixation it's literally "JUST TAKE IT"
spring kettle
I have to get like every other artemis boon before she finally offers fully loaded
That's why I generally don't try on cast builds and just go for artemis cast duos
halcyon flame
i might as well take the hourglass and buy prometheus stones
at least they're more likely to show the hell up than support fire and exit wounds
spring kettle
even gambling on getting more stones from chaos has better odds
halcyon flame
how is getting 2 t2 boons from aphrodite easier than getting literally just two random boons from artemis
spring kettle
Duos with artemis are more reliable, at least you can try getting boons from the other god as well
halcyon flame
i feel like pressure points is the only one of those prereqs that actually ever shows up
spring kettle
Pressure points is also strong on non cast builds
Support fire can be more hit and miss, and exit wounds just isn't an option for 3 casts
halcyon flame
pressure points is generally just strong
hardy linden
exit wound and quick reload might work, but not worth
dire steppe
hello nyaa
mossy zinc
how is getting 2 t2 boons from aphrodite easier than getting literally just two ...
You need 1 priority boon and one out of three specific t2 boons for Unhealthy Fixation; her only t2 that doesn't unlock it is Blown Kiss, which is only available with Crush Shot anyway.
For Fully Loaded, you need any 2 out of 1 specific t1 boon that's not priority and out of 2 specific t2 boons; 3 out of 5 of her t2 boons don't unlock it.
mossy zinc
hello nyaa
Hello.
hardy linden
i keep getting random artemis legendary while playing non cast build
lucky those are lightning rod runs instead 😛
mossy zinc
Survivability. Charmed enemies won't attack you. It's a little bit rare that charmed enemies attack another off Unhealthy Fixation's Charm because it's only 4 seconds, Aphrodite's Aid is more reliable for that, but when it does happen, it's a whole lot of damage.
Even if you think of it as just your Attack has a 15% chance to stun an enemy for 4 seconds, that's super strong.
sullen minnow
Cleared 32 with the zag fists based on some of the recs from earlier in here! Thanks all!
mossy zinc
Congratulations!
astral sparrow
Currently on heat 20, but having trouble due to always losing dds to minotaur sliding through all walls and hitting me unless I am carrying defect on dash
halcyon flame
i should consider changing my conditons using the spear
should i change them? this is the same thing i did for the last 3 weapons i cleared 32 heat with
halcyon flame
convenience fee isn't so bad
jury summons would make it even more difficult to deal with the timer, hard pass
true fable
its interesting to see what compromises different players are willing to make
sullen minnow
spammy i know we talked a little before
but i pulled that FO2 win off on my first time through
true fable
it should be fine if youre used to it then
sullen minnow
i was really taken aback how much you can negate it by stunlocking enemies
i was playing fists so i could weave and dodge a bunch too but spear has really good tools for dash attacking and keeping enemies at range
if found it let me make my life a lot easier elsewhere
true fable
really depends on the spear for 32+
halcyon flame
yeah i'm considering fo2
halcyon flame
breaching cross is gonna be essential because armor is gonna be a major issue
true fable
i think i bit the FO2 bullet early on when i started doing high heat
turned it on at 16 and then never looked back
halcyon flame
i'm torn between greater or ruthless
sullen minnow
someone turned me onto it over pm recently and im blown away
true fable
only time i turned it off was for 40 arthur i think?
sullen minnow
it makes things a good deal harder but it lets you get so much heat value back for it
halcyon flame
ruthless will help me get my dodge chance up but greater will let me proc me more frequently
true fable
dont get me wrong, FO2 is really tough, but its basically mandatory at 40+
sullen minnow
also FO2 is a definite buff for TD3
it was hard to notice with FO1, but with FO2 there i could tell rooms were moving faster
halcyon flame
smh the problem with divine dds is that i never end up needing them
but i really gotta get them anyways in case something goes wrong
sullen minnow
schroedingers boon
hardy linden
ive lost to em4 hades with 4 dds and good zeus eris build lmao i think 18 heat
there are times em4 took only 1 dd
true fable
EM4 with DDs is somefin
i remember when i used to take EM4
now that i started again i cry
halcyon flame
em4 is... pretty intense
hardy linden
LOL yea i just wanna try EM4 for a bit and get the feels of it
halcyon flame
i would know, i've already done it
true fable
kent fwiw retrash has kept it on ever since he unlocked it
hardy linden
LOL thats scary
true fable
and hes one of the top heat players
hardy linden
i mean thats conditioning too
astral sparrow
I did most of my first heats with em4 to steamroll through the encounters
now that I am trying to do higher heat I took it off and well the encounter difficulty skyrocketed for me
on the other hand I can beat em4 consistently
rain sedge
Not playing with FO2 on will cost you if you want to go for higher heat, but not everyone want to do more than 32
mossy zinc
jury summons would make it even more difficult to deal with the timer, hard pass
CF2 also makes TD3 more difficult. But that's the pact I would recommend, yes.
halcyon flame
i don't really mind being forced to make good decisions
i just don't like being forced to play extra well but here we are
mossy zinc
You only get so many obols. CF1 will get you a stronger build than CF2.
halcyon flame
i guess i can consider replacing cf2 with js1
mossy zinc
I'd still take CF2, personally.
chilly sun
am i the only one who likes forced overtime 2
I feel like it's something terrifying when you first choose it but getting used to it makes you much more skillful
astral sparrow
Makes elysium a tad too disgusting for my taste
chilly sun
I get that. I hope the bug fix making archers no longer auto-target makes it easier
chilly sun
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/806576330971283516/Had...
ARTHUR... every time someone uses arthur i gain life
astral sparrow
I run arthur mostly. FO2 on elysium with arthur is hell, feel like I am being spammed by bows without the possibility to avoid it
vital grove
Gotta bring your sword to their face.
vital grove
More sword
opal token
I don’t know how you beat EM4 on td3. Like...an extra life plus you have to dodge or die horribly
I know ppl do it. They are not me. Haha
plain shuttle
more like you are not them
wanton plover
em4 with melee monkaOMEGA
plain shuttle
I probably wont even make it to Elysium on TD3 lmao
shy plinth
You just gotta zoom zoom
gaunt fiber
I don’t know how you beat EM4 on td3. Like...an extra life plus you have to dodg...
Just get a 2 sack and skip Elysium
stiff aurora
How much time does em4 take? 3 minutes?
When I go em4 I just take td2 and never worry about time
shy gulch
i simply do not take em4
also forgetting to lose ur SD before picking up athena is a classic
i cant even remember how many times ive done it
stiff aurora
I'm still trying to manage 32 heat em4
I am doing it with DD right now, I don't like the rng requirement of getting lifes from athena
halcyon flame
wasn't confident because neither athena or aphrodite showed up but hey i can work with good dps
halcyon flame
bad news is so good
gaunt fiber
How much time does em4 take? 3 minutes?
Really depends if you have a build or not imo
I'd say 4-5 minutes
stiff aurora
Good luck doing that with td3 lol
wanton plover
td3 em4 and 5sack
mossy zinc
JS4 lol.
stiff aurora
Maybe also ap2 to make sure you have no damage?
halcyon flame
and also rl4, can't have them doing any extra backstab damage
waxen relic
no need to bring it slowly up to max heat. then nobody would try
halcyon flame
the point is to do as little damage as possible
twilit hedge
sextreme measures
halcyon flame
what would be recommended for 32 heat fists?
mossy zinc
HL5 LC4 CF2 EM3 BP2 MM UC TD3.
vital grove
HL5 and CF1 can be changed with FO2
If you find Fo2 easier
And if TD3 is too fast, TD2 JS3 or Td2 ap2 maybe, adding a point somewhere if necessary
gaunt fiber
AP2 32 woohoo
turbid perch
niice!!
turbid perch
Ohh I thought you got a clear like that haha
gaunt fiber
Prolly got one anyway 
turbid perch
ive been trying 32 heat like this, swapping a few conditions here and there between runs, but still struggling a lot
any tips besides just playing more/better? haha
also im not focusing on any particular weapon
wanton plover
i would take off one routine inspection and max lasting consequences
wintry berry
Try to not get hit. Chip damage from foes can accumulate quite fast.
turbid perch
thanks i will try those tips!! :)
wanton plover
use stubborn defiance over the other one
turbid perch
oh good idea
wanton plover
i also think doing max cf and td2 and taking off some js and cp is easier
wintry berry
You can avoid AP1 and RI on 32.
turbid perch
feels so liberating playing without AP ;__;
wanton plover
in your opinion guys is hestia one of the easier aspects
i never actually gave it much of a chance maybe ill try it now
daring hedge
It's low commitment, mechanically simple, very strong, not very reliant on hammers or boons etc.
Obviously there is a higher skill ceiling with it where you can make use of special, time reloads better and such
But yeah it's one of the easier high heat weapons I'd say
agile obsidian
i just noticed that hestia is quite popular in the high heat doc
Eris is good for speedrunning
Not a lot of safety or great range output
spiral island
TD3 is not as intimidating as you want yourself to think
agile obsidian
Yes
spiral island
Just pause if you need to think
agile obsidian
Just try and get your normal run average to about 20 and you shoudl be fine
wanton plover
does the codex still work to save time
agile obsidian
yes
daring hedge
Yes, but keep in mind if you ever want to submit speedruns, it's banned there and invalidates the run
spiral island
Fear is for the weak after all
So just run headfirst in a speedrun
Go fast and play good
spiral island
Go fast and play good
This is coming from someone who hasn't speedrun this game
agile obsidian
i dont try and get world records or anything but just try and beat my last time
gaunt fiber
Speedrun is fun until the only thing that makes you save time is room RNG
wanton plover
self improvement 🥰
agile obsidian
Speedrun is fun until the only thing that makes you save time is room RNG
^^
gaunt fiber
Just my opinion tho
spiral island
Self improvement is where it's at boyo
agile obsidian
I can still save some time from skill but I'm getting close to rng
Honestly the only way I can speedrun is if I get rocket bomb with eris
Why is that red
wanton plover
ur lagging
tame mist
one of asterius's slam attacks hit me 3 times and i died :(((
mossy zinc
Can anyone confirm that Authority rerolls of miniboss chambers can only rotate through 3 different gods? I haven't seen a fourth one.
halcyon flame
any recommended builds for 32 heat demeter fists? i tried me but it didn't work out too well because i didn't get impending doom
agile obsidian
Merciful end still works great without impending doom
mossy zinc
Divine Strike, Deadly Flourish, Deadly Reversal.
halcyon flame
Merciful end still works great without impending doom
not if curse of agony is lvl 2 and common rarity it seems
agile obsidian
I see
halcyon flame
i also happened to have p.status on and it still didn't work out
agile obsidian
Did you get the athena curse?
true fable
well level 2 common doom sucks so that checks out
agile obsidian
with her dash
true fable
doom is your highest pom priority in an ME build, even with impending
agile obsidian
yeah nothing else really makes sense
halcyon flame
i did in fact get exposed
agile obsidian
Other than pomming arty special(if you can get it) a few times
halcyon flame
it didn't
agile obsidian
ME lol
edgy arrow
arty special is a pipe dream since you need to get athena on special, then sell it, then see arty
halcyon flame
arty special is a pipe dream since you need to get athena on special, then sell ...
that's literally what i did
spiral island
I just had the longest champions fight ever
halcyon flame
everything almost lined up so perfectly but i couldn't get divine dd because i already used the owl pendant
edgy arrow
I just had the longest champions fight ever
a bold claim
halcyon flame
i might try for a heart rend build
sullen minnow
Can anyone confirm that Authority rerolls of miniboss chambers can only rotate t...
Can’t confirm, but can offer supporting experience that I’ve spent lots of rolls only to see the same 3 gods in the past, on multiple occasions
gaunt fiber
This why I don't like authority, the pool seems very limited
agile obsidian
I like persuasion
mossy zinc
@honest kernel can you confirm that?
agile obsidian
Even though you get less and it costs more you can easily get more with rolls
mossy zinc
Yes, of course.
sullen minnow
I’m with you Nya. I want to understand the limits and boundaries of FA for science if nothing else. No bad tools, only badly optimized ones
gaunt fiber
Authority is even worse without a mirror
sullen minnow
As in with RI1? Hard agree
sullen minnow
At least persuasion has a fighting chance of a key room
gaunt fiber
Why 
sullen minnow
Authority’s use case is def specialized at best
mossy zinc
If you use Authority, you can get more rerolls by spending rerolls.
true fable
🧠
sullen minnow
But that niche is an interesting one
sullen minnow
Honestly it’s between 2 blues that you hate I’ll yolo it sometimes
Your odds actually aren’t terrible
Worst you land on is darkness
Key is a free pass
And nectar is probably what you were rolling for to begin with
The only real lose is if you hit snakeyes and roll gems
mossy zinc
No, spending Authority rerolls on blue laurel exits is a terrible waste.
sullen minnow
I spend my authority rerolls so much more freely than persuasion ones lol
mossy zinc
You mainly want to use them for miniboss chambers because you're guaranteed to roll more boons.
sullen minnow
Good tech and good point ^^
gaunt fiber
By more boons she means Aphrodite's
sullen minnow
Any boon could statistically be Aphrodite if you believe hard enough
mossy zinc
It's for Lady Aphrodite m studying Fated Authority, actually.
sullen minnow
Ah
true fable
that tracks
sullen minnow
I study in the name of the father and the huntress
true fable
nyaanyaa have you ever finished a run with only aphro boons
mossy zinc
Of course.
gaunt fiber
I'm sure she posted one here too
spiral island
Does pierced butterfly only give you bonus damage when equipped?
Or is it permanent?
dire steppe
only when equipped
spiral island
Oh
dire steppe
and it doesnt work on the tiny sticks rooms
spiral island
Yeah
I knew that
Kinda lame that it's not permanent
You have to earn it after all
lament pilot
In which channel
Do I talk about the locked options
For the weapons
I can't get it to unlock
true fable
locked options...?
lament pilot
the 4th
true fable
oh like hidden aspects?
lament pilot
ye
bronze viper
Heyo
bronze viper
:3 I would be astonished if I could do 45 heat with Rama at this moment. Give me a chance to work my way back up to earning that signature lol
true fable
tailesque did 60 rama, icymi
bronze viper
I didn't miss it. Didn't give him proper congratulations. I guessed the softcap for Rama was at 57 and he pooped all over that. What a legend
rain sedge
the new eyes will break the heat WR
bronze viper
I'll have to put Rama on hold though, wait up, did more bows get buffed again?
rain sedge
well hera got some fixes, so that's a buff
rain sedge
zag bow has 5% extra crit chance but that hardly matters at 45+ heat
true fable
5% crit is kind of a decent amt
bronze viper
It was free though. 1.0 Zag Bow was already legit.
true fable
having 30% base crit with deadly strike is quite nice
also bolts can crit now on thunder flourish
bronze viper
hnggg
true fable
explosive return still cant 😔
also just a PSA since it doesnt seem to be common knowledge, SRC is allowing hell mode submissions now
bronze viper
They weren't... before?
true fable
they werent before no
rain sedge
when was this? what's the discussion/reasoning?
bronze viper
I don't think it ever came up because no one had a hell mode save last time I played
Surely 1 or 2 people have one by now
true fable
retrash played exclusively on HM
bronze viper
I play on HM on the switch (can I port saves now?)
true fable
i think tail/baj/crepes switched when they were pushing past 56
cross saves should be a thing
now
bronze viper
Geez, how many are 50+ now. All 3 of them are 56+? So proud :3
true fable
resqtoaster also has a maxed HM save on src
rain sedge
I play on HM on the switch (can I port saves now?)
you can, it's easy to do
bronze viper
Lol, that's where I'm at, and will be at for a while to come
rain sedge
🙋♂️
true fable
i do want to go back to trying 54 heat beo
rain sedge
I'm close to 54 hestia tho
true fable
i might do 54 heat hestia just to do it
but then id be like astaos
with a higher heat on hestia than my favorite weapon
spring kettle
implying hestia isn't your favorite weapon
rain sedge
that's basically my mentality too bright
true fable
hestia is not my favorite weapon
bronze viper
Hmm, where are 50+ heat completions being tracked right now?
rain sedge
spreadsheet is pinned
bronze viper
Oh, Nyaa's? I didn't see Krasher's
rain sedge
he gone
true fable
yeah nyaanyaas spreadsheet is the one we use now
i think theyre mostly merged
just easier to submit to that one
bronze viper
Yeah, seems like. Woo, back to the grind!
rain sedge
welcome back ledger, looking forward to those victory screens
bronze viper
❤️
Oh, boo. I don't think I can go backwards though. As in play my Switch save on PC.
true fable
really?
true fable
that doesnt sound right, but i also havent tried to go that way
@rain sedge has though i believe
any ideas?
bronze viper
It's kind of hard to google since all the results are reporting Steam -> Switch cross-saves.
true fable
im p sure schad started switch
and only went to pc when they added crosses
so he has an idea probs
if not theres always resqtoaster's save on sr.com
gaunt fiber
Blind man not blind anymore 
bronze viper
Oh, figured it out, I just had to manually select my switch save to occupy that save slot on both Steam/Switch. Kind of a jank way to implement that but no complaints lol
rain sedge
I've done it yeah
had the same problem at first
ping me if you got any more trouble, but it should be set up now
spiral island
Is Aether Net supposed to be a play on words of Ethernet?
true fable
bronze viper
Ah, 4/5 white Lernies. It's good to be home >_>
Whoah, Piercing Wave works with dash strikes now? What else does?
shy plinth
Woah ledger is back pog
Yeah krasher's sheet is inside the new sheet but the automated form kinda does everything now
Should also have a lot of lists as to where people are at and where aspects are at etc
bronze viper
Yeah, it's been really cool seeing the growth in the high heat community .
daring hedge
Ah, 4/5 white Lernies. It's good to be home >_>
welcome back to the grind 
bronze viper
true fable
Whoah, Piercing Wave works with dash strikes now? What else does?
just breaching and dedge
shadow is very sad
it says "backstab!"
and nothing happens
tidal flame
Well it says backstab, what else do you want?
true fable
i want it
to backstab
and apply the damage
instead of just telling me my dash strike hit their back
ripe crane
I'm close to 54 hestia tho
You're what?
ripe crane
:O
tidal flame
Dew it
ripe crane
Is it a separate category? Or just mixed in?
ripe crane
Only 50?
tidal flame
Wdym "only" 50 T.T
daring hedge
no clue, jerds just said he removed that from the rules in context of us talking about the 50 heat category
ripe crane
Yeah looking at the game rules it isn't mentioned. Looks like you can use it on anything 👀
shy plinth
Hell mode is just removed from the rules entirely
spiral island
I'm playing Hell Mode right now
ripe crane
Dang hadesprofessor doing work with hesty
mossy zinc
"Do a barrel roll!" challenge is already at 21 Heat.
ripe crane
Need to peep those runs
spiral island
Oh man
rain sedge
You're *what*?
whoa is this halloween or what
because there's a lot of people back from the dead
bronze viper
Sees Stygius at 7/20 heat on HM ;_;
ripe crane
shy plinth
Yeah he's taking a break
ripe crane
Whaaaat
shy plinth
Said the game wasn't healthy for him
rain sedge
you people did this .
ripe crane
That's wack
shy gulch
yeah baj is taking a break for himself
shy plinth
shy gulch
indeed
ripe crane
I'll be proud of you when you hit triple digit heat
shy plinth
Speedrun disc
shy gulch
speedrunning discord
bronze viper
I died on a sword run, and enjoyed myself. The power of breaks.
shy gulch
LOL
rain sedge
ok imma cry in the corner there
shy gulch
schad cryin in the club
mossy zinc
he hates us 😦
We don't know that.
bronze viper
Lol, I think it just means you've played all the SGG games
daring hedge
i just went yellow name because i did, in fact, play all the supergiant games games
true fable
baj needed a break
mossy zinc
Maybe it's just you.
shy plinth
bablo is white name I think
true fable
respect on him for knowing that he needed a break
shy plinth
Agree with bright
true fable
too many people dont know they need one
shy gulch
yee
bronze viper
My eyes decided for me. They were right.
rain sedge
I also played all the games but blue looks cooler
ripe crane
so are all big gamer high heat players yellow names now
Yellow names 🤮
rain sedge
lets summon bablo then as he is one of the dead people
shy gulch
i hate bright01
true fable
rekt
rain sedge
@proud jay hi bablo we're summoning dead people here
shy gulch
yeah bablo has risen from the dead
rain sedge
how are you doing?
shy gulch
to verify my runs