h1-high-heat-strategies

[proud jay]

40+ still doable with casts

50 is eh

[true fable]

legendary hermes boon for 20 obols

[sly remnant]

50 aint fun with casts

[honest kernel]

I've almost done 50 achilles with Phalanx Shot lol

[formal gust]

with 50 is it basically a melee weapon

[true fable]

i feel like you need multihit casts if youre doing dc with achilles

or divine dash

[formal gust]

or just high heat in general

[true fable]

you probably want divine anyway

[misty hamlet]

🤔

[formal gust]

idk high heat meta lol

[sly remnant]

since i did it i'm allowed to talk about it now

apparently

[formal gust]

I just want to get achilles 40+

[true fable]

did you do achilles 40?

its pretty free now

[misty hamlet]

Clarify what we mean by “doable”

With regards to casts

[proud jay]

i did meme beam achilles in 40 heat winstreak

[true fable]

h u n t i n g b l a d e s

[misty hamlet]

go away Ares and stop hitting on one of my moms

[true fable]

true

mans creepy

[sly remnant]

with 40 you don't have to run AP + CF or RI

so you can actually just high roll with casts

[true fable]

^

[formal gust]

ok after achilles I'll probably attempt... arthur or nemesis maybe?

[true fable]

arthur seems like a masochistic effort

[formal gust]

yeah especially without the forbidden build

[rain sedge]

What

[true fable]

right in your wheelhouse boss man

[rain sedge]

What did you pc people get

[formal gust]

oh boy

[misty hamlet]

We got good

[honest kernel]

Wait you actually are going Achilles Cin

Good luck

[formal gust]

come on it can't be that bad

last words

[honest kernel]

What heat

[formal gust]

40

[honest kernel]

More than doable

[rain sedge]

Zeus cast isn't too bad last time I tried

[formal gust]

40 heat is doable with anything

[true fable]

do beyblades or meme beams or youre a coward

[formal gust]

fine

beyblade

[rain sedge]

Beyblade actually might work

[formal gust]

bright likes peer pressuring me

[true fable]

it does

[rain sedge]

If you get hunting blades early

What's the highest mirrorless run done?

I think I can do 40 eris mirrorless

[true fable]

46? by tailesque i think?

[rain sedge]

Nevermind

[true fable]

should be on the sheet

[rain sedge]

Tail, destroyer of dreams

I'm at """work"'"

[true fable]

same lol

[shy plinth]

@daring hedge submit your 46 from yesterday pls

[formal gust]

Maybe I’m secretly a high heat expert I mean I jumped from 32 to 45

[honest kernel]

... Yeah ok like I did 32 to 42 first shot

Maybe

[formal gust]

It took me a few tries mostly because I was using a bad pact the first couple times

[true fable]

EM4 isnt that bad on beowulf

[formal gust]

It was for me

I took AP instead and some other stuff lol

[true fable]

AP is a pact that exists

[formal gust]

What a hot take

I keep taking midshop no matter what even when not going for speed

Muscle memory

[true fable]

that was the biggest adjustment for me

autochaos too

[formal gust]

Ye

[sly remnant]

why in all that is good and holy

did you take ap on beo 45

[formal gust]

I mean I won

[sly remnant]

lol thats true

but uh. thats not really what the weapon is good at

[mossy zinc]

@shy plinth just saw the unseeded player index includes the highest heat in seeded runs.

[formal gust]

EM4 was bodying me

[sly remnant]

on beo?

[formal gust]

Very limited experience with that fight

Yes lmao

[sly remnant]

its probably the easiest aspect for EM4 outside of maybe hestia

[shy plinth]

No it doesn't <_<

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Typo.

[sly remnant]

hestia gets to dad a bit easier but i still think beo is mechanically better at the fight

[shy plinth]

(Good eye)

[formal gust]

O [poop]

Hestia

Exists

[true fable]

depends on what pieces you have imo

[mossy zinc]

@formal gust

[true fable]

can be hard to get the pieces you need for that fight with AP/RI

[sly remnant]

lol but

[mossy zinc]

@daring hedge don't pls

[sly remnant]

don't run AP or RI at 45

[mossy zinc]

Delete it.

[true fable]

not disagreeing

🤷

[sly remnant]

and even with AP

[gaunt fiber]

I must

[mossy zinc]

@daring hedge why have you not submitted your 46 mirrorless yet, and also don't submit that, just delete the video.

[sly remnant]

dad rages at beo like tailesque at a greatshield

[mossy zinc]

40 mirrorless is good enough.

[sly remnant]

dad challenges zag to a 1v1 mid and zag has cheats on

[true fable]

depends on your AP RNG i guess

idk im not a fan of AP roulette

[sly remnant]

i mean i think thats why beo is still an insanely good weapon at 45

[mossy zinc]

It's Hades who always cheats.

I fought him without mirror, without boons, and he still summoned help.

[sly remnant]

yea but you still came out victorious

nyaanyaa = topson

[mossy zinc]

You think I should tell him m a girl?

[sly remnant]

hades is a rear end hole but i don't think he would care about that

[gaunt fiber]

Don't

[mossy zinc]

I bet Hades is the type who'd totally spoil a girl lol.

[gaunt fiber]

https://imgur.com/v0CBiPv

what do you think about this setup?

maybe HS to lower HL

[true fable]

cant you do JS3 with TD2? idk

[gaunt fiber]

Without mirror I'm not sure

[true fable]

also that combination of CF2/UC/RI

good luck on your boonless run sire o7

[proud jay]

ever considered LC4 and lowering FO?

[gaunt fiber]

Hm

The healing kinda saved my 32 runs

[proud jay]

i'd probably roll with FO0 but idk

[gaunt fiber]

but at FO0 why not, interesting

or FO1

[sly remnant]

does GY care about AP1?

[gaunt fiber]

I want to keep what remains of my sanity

[sly remnant]

lol fair enough

[true fable]

need all the chances possible to get skewer i imagine lol

[sly remnant]

i was just thinking

[gaunt fiber]

why not I guess

[sly remnant]

AP1 LC4 over FO2

[gaunt fiber]

but that means reset

[north dove]

GY can heal through LC4 anyways so putting points into that doesn't actually hurt you

[gaunt fiber]

I'm not really good at spinning

[north dove]

go FO0 then

[gaunt fiber]

but might be different without fo

[north dove]

and JS3

[true fable]

JS3 means more souls to reap

stonks

[mossy zinc]

The fact that we have boonless and mirrorless runs placing pretty high on the general leaderboard is pretty crazy to me.

[sly remnant]

ye. people (not me) have gotten gud

its also the effect of the bias of the pact

[wraith imp]

i remember when 40 heat seemed like a huge deal about 7-8 months ago. lulz!

[mossy zinc]

lol yeah.

Ain't nobody talking about my 41 with Zag Fists anymore.

[sly remnant]

your 52 beo was a HUGE deal when you did it right?

(its still impressive as hell btw)

[mossy zinc]

Thanks!

Yeah it kinda was I guess lol. Though I guess reddit hated it, the ratio was like 50%.

[sly remnant]

you had like 2k+ views when i watched it for beo special tips

which for a non-haelian, non-bablo video seems pretty good

[mossy zinc]

And no mic.

I don't really know how many views other people get.

[sly remnant]

for reference bablo's 53 had like 400

(i fiend everyone's beo vods)

[mossy zinc]

Haelian beat my WR first with 53, so maybe that's why.

[true fable]

i dont watch many hades vids tbh

[mossy zinc]

Same.

[true fable]

very few are at a reasonable length

[mossy zinc]

Probably even fewer than you.

[proud jay]

currently sitting at 97 views

[true fable]

i watch a ton of streams though

[sly remnant]

i'll watch at 2X speed a lot.

[gaunt fiber]

If you want a death montage, no problem mate

[sly remnant]

oh lmao lower than i thought. i still learned tho so thanks for having it

[true fable]

would actually be very high quality content

[gaunt fiber]

oof

greatshield got me

[true fable]

dont see how that solves the video length issue for you though

[mossy zinc]

I watch some streams sometimes. Mostly Lady Aphrodite's stream (courtenberry) if I happen to be awake, but also sometimes bablo, Wriste13, Resqtoaster, haelian. I think that's pretty much it.

[shy plinth]

[mossy zinc]

Can't die yourself if you only do low-heat speedruns, right?

[formal gust]

perhaps I should start uploading high heat stuff on my channel

[true fable]

actually probably have a higher death rate in speedrun context just from resetting

the number of my video thumbnails that are just asphodel interchamber resets

[formal gust]

just do ms paint thumbnails

[true fable]

i dont know why YT algorithm thinks zag burning in lava is so eye catching

[formal gust]

hol up

[true fable]

i uploaded a beo video with the elmo nuke thumbnail

and my account got banned

💀

[formal gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/785931490029731880/unknown.png

[true fable]

yeah the algorithm really likes asphodel

[formal gust]

my first high heat video thumbnail will be a beautiful illustration of the heat icon and then "high hotness moment"

[true fable]

yeah i'll probably think of something cursed

i unlist all my videos so im not sure what id be doing it for

[gaunt fiber]

Just got my acorn stripped by machine gun into in a vicious Asterius wave

a nice surprise

[true fable]

and the video gets longer

[gaunt fiber]

nope it stops lol

playing without mirror feels cool

[rain sedge]

to whomever laughed at me for going to buy cyberpunk on release: you were right 😦

I think it's tyler and bright

[true fable]

LOL

[spring kettle]

Careful, I heard it can cause epilepsy

[true fable]

have you seen the glitches

[gaunt fiber]

Rip

[spring kettle]

I don't even know why a cyberpunk game would cause epilepsy

[true fable]

to be fair

[shy plinth]

Turns out 2077 is the number of bugs in the game

[true fable]

i think foxhope was laughing at you too schad

[rain sedge]

yeah....

[gaunt fiber]

Dw

[rain sedge]

it's ok you can laugh at me today instead of astaos

[shy plinth]

And yeah also they (intentionally maybe?) included a pattern that is used in the medical field to induce seizures in epileptic patients

Which seems... not great

[gaunt fiber]

In 4 years it should be playable

[rain sedge]

I'd sub in for you today astaos

[gaunt fiber]

Hey

I got praised by Nyaanyaa today

[rain sedge]

I've read about it, I don't have epilepsy so I dodged that bullet

[gaunt fiber]

You filthy casual

[rain sedge]

fake news

[gaunt fiber]

Your hatred won't reach me mirror players

It's truth

[rain sedge]

?

I did 32 mirrorless eris first try

what are you on about

[dire steppe]

do mirrorless 32 but facing backwards and you can only see hades through the reflection in the mirror

[sly remnant]

mirrorless is an....interesting category

[true fable]

schad idk how youre fine with mirrorless but somehow not with high confidence lmao

[rain sedge]

I have low confidence 😦

80% is a surprisingly high threshold

[sly remnant]

do you run cthonic vitality

[gaunt fiber]

25 HP is a surprisingly low number

[honest kernel]

https://gyazo.com/e9ed16dcb64afd77c79c6bcfb397881a

Now that is epic

[true fable]

are you doing the achilles zeus special start 🤮

[honest kernel]

I am

And you aren't stopping me

It's actually pretty decent

[true fable]

what do it do

like whats the concept

[honest kernel]

Achilles special pretty fast

Trying to do a attack/special hybrid kind of thing

[true fable]

i always just use special to get duos tbh

maybe need to consider using it more

[honest kernel]

Aphro attack/Zeus special is the plan

Get big call

Smoldering Air stonks

[true fable]

kind of a lot of pieces my friend

i believe though

smoldering is sick

[sly remnant]

just get smoldering air bright

its not hard

just click on the boon

[honest kernel]

lmao

For real I'm just seeing how good Zeus special can be

Duos are whatever

[true fable]

have you tried clicking on the green boon

the number of times ive taken mirage shot on soaker

[sly remnant]

BRUH SAME

[true fable]

🤦‍♂️

[sly remnant]

i'm alway s

MIRAGE SHOT GOOD

MUST TAKE

[true fable]

me see green boon me take green boon

even with no cast boon

[honest kernel]

Got a beyblade anyways

Thanks Ares

[sly remnant]

now this is gaming

[honest kernel]

Gonna have to sell it likely tho

Since I have that, Zeus special, Double Strike and Splitting Bolt lol

This is actually phasing meg what the frick

https://gyazo.com/0f430b96ea5890233e403188c1d242f6

Like, wat

[gaunt fiber]

It's legendary actually

[sly remnant]

3:11 tartar sauce

[gaunt fiber]

I deserve that Dusa

I am sorry

[true fable]

you could also get zeus attack

STONKS

[sly remnant]

zeus is a balanced god 🙂

[honest kernel]

Even better https://gyazo.com/a74a2129a9c11980c554ce62c15741ca

[sly remnant]

glad to see baj running seeded

[true fable]

this bad boy can fit so much frickin zeus in it

[honest kernel]

This run really looks like it's seeded lmao

[true fable]

you have everything except flurry jab

[honest kernel]

I think I skipped Serrated to experiment with Vicious Skewer

Turns out the lightning bolt can crit

[true fable]

tbh i woulda sold double strike 🙂

i know thats controversial

me like blade

[sly remnant]

look blade is underrated

you high as a kite if you sell double strike

[mossy zinc]

wut

[true fable]

double strike on achilles special though 🥴

id have to see it to believe it

[sly remnant]

HE HAS SPLITTING BOLT

[formal gust]

@true fable got crystal clarity in tart this run with an extra cast and I died to alecto

achilles 40

[sly remnant]

ye i threw a 52 to alecto earlier

[honest kernel]

Than into Eurydice happened https://gyazo.com/871b5a7be0b0e749997786163b380238

Chamber 19 BTW

[sly remnant]

into midshop after a slam dancer room where their AI breaks

[true fable]

dying to alecto in the year 2020

[honest kernel]

Also yes Hermes gave me an extra dash

[sly remnant]

high heat runners hate him

[honest kernel]

It gets even better https://gyazo.com/35144f2914a107ee5092eb0954493467

[sly remnant]

do this one easy trick of getting a legendary in tartarus and having fantastic room luck

[true fable]

i guess blades doesnt matter if you arent going hunting blades

[honest kernel]

Funny enough

[true fable]

jesus

lol

[honest kernel]

I saw Artemis in an Erebus Gate

[true fable]

that ambrosia gamble

[honest kernel]

So this seed could have been a hunting blades one

[true fable]

are you gonna do thunder dash

or havent decided

[honest kernel]

If I see it I'll pick it lmao

It's insane

[true fable]

seems good

let us know when you casually pick up epic jolted on the side of the road

[honest kernel]

Dammit murderboat

Good thing this is MM

but still

[sly remnant]

ye barge aint great

[honest kernel]

30 second barge

[true fable]

baj gonna be the first player to naturally encounter a heroic

[honest kernel]

How fast is that

[sly remnant]

for MM barge pretty standard

[true fable]

ive actually toyed with the idea of MM on anyheat

[sly remnant]

ye so did it

[true fable]

since its faster to reset after bombers than after barge

[sly remnant]

its great until you get to styx

[formal gust]

ok I am dying in tart over and over lol

[true fable]

in the words of hypnos

have you tried not dying

[sly remnant]

MM styx is stinky

[true fable]

mm styx

very stinky

[honest kernel]

Oh hello Dio

Do I get the Call or the Cast

[sly remnant]

call i think

[honest kernel]

It's literally

What duo do I want lmao

[sly remnant]

its good standalone value

[honest kernel]

Scintillating Feast or Smoldering Air

I have Regen Cast

[sly remnant]

oh well

thats actually a difficult question

hmm

i think with regen cast i give the edge to dio cast then

but i am a bit biased 🙂

[honest kernel]

I'll go for that

[sly remnant]

people always underrate scintillating feast

myself included

oh and you have double strike

its scintillating for sure

[honest kernel]

Begone Hydra https://gyazo.com/d52a418ebde8231683c8492051815a11

[sly remnant]

you better be recording

[honest kernel]

...

About that

[true fable]

was it indeed much too close

[sly remnant]

BAJ NO

I WANT TO WATCH

i love high heat speed

[true fable]

do you have god's legacy or pride

[sly remnant]

its so enjoyable

[honest kernel]

I wish I was

Legacy, BTW

[true fable]

is 6 minutes good pace for 40? i have no idea

[honest kernel]

It's a bit slow-ish for speedruns, from what I know, right ?

[sly remnant]

no one does 40

so

[true fable]

40s weird

[sly remnant]

playing careful slows you down

it just does

[honest kernel]

I'm literally just zooming around lmao

Also testing a new special bind

[sly remnant]

sure but you can trade health for damage easily in any heat

[honest kernel]

Swapped the cast and special input

Actually feels better lol

[sly remnant]

i think a sub 12 is respectable at 40 heat

sub 10 is the goal for the best

[honest kernel]

... I'm going to have to sell the dashes

WELP

[true fable]

i dont play carefully on 32, so 40 might be an adjustment

[solemn pulsar]

i like 40 a lot

[true fable]

i do too just havent optimized for speed

interested to see pact variations

[sly remnant]

the biggest problem for 40 is

[gaunt fiber]

my current 40 is gucci

[sly remnant]

it should be divided into two categories

[honest kernel]

I swear this ain't seeded LOL https://gyazo.com/6f383c11f85a4b6f9688f7789d64d440

[sly remnant]

there should damage control 40 and non damage control 40

because aspects that can handle DC no problem are just going to go faster than non DC for that 2 heat

[dire steppe]

then dont take DC as part of your 40 heat...

[sly remnant]

?

[honest kernel]

Well that was early https://gyazo.com/73d5e3a4e49be101ddd1b4f4af34a321

Time to win

[sly remnant]

thats literally not what i said rigged

[dire steppe]

some aspects are faster than others i don’t see why that’s an issue

like maybe on rama or whatever you take DC because why not and you don’t on hestia so you have to take some other 2 heat

i dont see why you need separate categories

[sly remnant]

i wasn't literally suggesting 2 different categories. i was just pointing out that 40 heat has to be judged differently

[gaunt fiber]

[sly remnant]

but no there doesn't need to be a demarcation on the speedrun leaderboards

[dire steppe]

i just- if someone chooses to take DC then they slow themself down, right? so people can use whatever pact setup they like and maybe in certain cases that does or doesn’t include DC

[honest kernel]

... I think the Asterius miniboss lasted like 15-20 seconds LOL

And he spun twice

I skipped Zeus attack

[sly remnant]

lmao i saw the message baj

[honest kernel]

oops

[sly remnant]

WHAT

[honest kernel]

It was a trade

AUTOPILOT
WHY

Call will do I guess

Urhg

[dire steppe]

just turn on ap2 so you don’t have to make decisions

[honest kernel]

Got Aphro in shop

With a roll, no Smoldering Air

Oof

[sly remnant]

baj confirmed unlucky

[true fable]

might as well reset tbh

[honest kernel]

PATTY

WHAT IS THIS RUN

[sly remnant]

34 patty?

[honest kernel]

YEES

LOL

[true fable]

didnt get smoldering air just try again

builds dead

unplayable imo

[spring kettle]

literally

[honest kernel]

https://gyazo.com/939c9ffe5d37762ef3a896823e2530d6

I swear I'm using all my luck right now

[true fable]

you are

i will be upset but unsurprised if your 50 also has this kind of luck

[honest kernel]

Almost threw https://gyazo.com/86cd00edb01cba662684e301e5026ff3

[mossy zinc]

Bruh.

You better don't throw that run.

[honest kernel]

Not EM4

[true fable]

lot of pressure baj

[honest kernel]

So I should be ok

Twice now that I sell extra dashes lmao

[true fable]

this is the most invested this channel has been in a 40 heat run in a while

[mossy zinc]

Might have to take you off the high heat player index if you throw that one.

[true fable]

you cant roll?

[honest kernel]

Nope

[true fable]

sad

how unlucky

[mossy zinc]

He can take Acorn now, should be fine.

[sly remnant]

ye he's got damage

[honest kernel]

That's what I did

Dammit

No Smoldering Air still

Billowing'll do

[sly remnant]

have you tried getting smouldering air?

just click on the boon

[honest kernel]

Not a 2-sack

Frick

Gambled on a non-miniboss room

For Aphro

There ya go https://gyazo.com/7f74d3104c1006b6f77837790bd8220c

Can I phase Hades now ?

[sly remnant]

see

just get it

[honest kernel]

...

Not a 3-sack

[formal gust]

just did 40 heat rama

[sly remnant]

uh oh baj

damn i would have liked to have seen the time on the boards

[true fable]

it isnt recorded anyway right

[honest kernel]

^

Not a 5-sack at 'least

[sly remnant]

oh yea

[formal gust]

I didn't record mine either

the 40 rama I did just now

[true fable]

rule #1 all good runs go unrecorded

[formal gust]

meh I don't think I would have uploaded it anyway

[daring hedge]

haven't used explosive shot in a hot minute and... it's honestly really funny how much zag bow with it feels like budget rama

the power shot timing is almost exactly the same

[true fable]

dude yes

even more if you get twin

though i must ask why you took the hammer lol

[daring hedge]

hell mode prophecies lol

[honest kernel]

https://gyazo.com/e6c95ebe5de069520de0a71e21d0bd89 I just zerged him that fight lol

[sly remnant]

submit it!

[honest kernel]

This run was highlight worthy IF I ACTUALLY RECORDED IT

[sly remnant]

oh wait its not recorded

[true fable]

that victory screen

a man of culture

[sly remnant]

how was dio cast

did you like it

[honest kernel]

It was overkill lol

[dire steppe]

we need a hunting blades like hammer, exclusive to zeus aspect

[sly remnant]

lol i thought yea it might be

[dire steppe]

don’t even deny you want that

[honest kernel]

Also best victory https://gyazo.com/6df39665ff61b803545478a8c93cbddd

[sly remnant]

yea i got my last sturgeon for the codex on my 50 clear

i included it in the video

[rain sedge]

pog blessed

I got my voidskate waaaay before my mati

[sly remnant]

same actually

[dire steppe]

i still don’t have common chaos fish

only voidsake and pro jelly

[gaunt fiber]

I got one recently

common is legendary

classic

[honest kernel]

I need 2 matis and 1 Stonewharl for all the completed codex entries. Got all of them at 'least once

And everything else's completed otherwise

[sly remnant]

ye that sturgeon was the nail in the coffin of my fishing

i'm done done

[mossy zinc]

@honest kernel can you explain why you did a 40 Heat Achilles run off-record when Achilles is the only aspect that's not on the leaderboard?

No, you can't, don't even try.

[true fable]

nyaanyaa coming to collect lol

[honest kernel]

... Wait what

It's the only one left ?

[mossy zinc]

Yes.

And it still is.

No thanks to you.

[honest kernel]

Even Zag shield got done ?

[waxen relic]

my one mirrorless run

[shy plinth]

Zag shield has a 34 mirrorless

[honest kernel]

Cool

[mossy zinc]

Zag shield is on the board at 34 mirrorless, yes.

[shy plinth]

Achilles only had a seeded run

Moved it over to the seeded board today

[honest kernel]

... Mine's way too suspiciously seeded-like

Even if it was unseeded lmao

[shy plinth]

Guess it's time to run it back

[rain sedge]

I thought bablo is submitting one from his streak

he got 40 every weapon recorded

[true fable]

baj my favorite thing about your 57 clear

is i can still flame you for missing the doomstone meg

[honest kernel]

...

Yeah you still can

I goofed up the attack angle lmao

[sly remnant]

lol you missed power couple too i think

[honest kernel]

I think I actually got them

or one of them

But yeah

My megs are ass with DC

[daring hedge]

this is how my 52 hades aspect felt in blood price when i got epic hunter dash and deadly strike in tartarus with AP2

[true fable]

hitting both on power couple is hard

at least with Mm

and DC

[rain sedge]

power couple is the worst miniboss

with FO2 it's just so hard to hit the falling rock

[gaunt fiber]

wait for it to land

[true fable]

so if you press the attack button itll usually autotarget it

hope that helps

[mossy zinc]

@daring hedge didn't you have a hammer seed for that one? I forgot.

[rain sedge]

thanks

[gaunt fiber]

you're welcome

[honest kernel]

The problem with landing Meg on MM Power Couple at high heat

[daring hedge]

oh yeah i think you're right

[honest kernel]

Is that you can't just cheese it by tanking the Stomper hit

[formal gust]

I have done 32+ all weapons

next target is 40 hestia

[honest kernel]

Or else you risk dying

[true fable]

gz

[honest kernel]

Straight up

[formal gust]

and no I'm not using shackle

[true fable]

i did 40 hestia and got beasted by dad

just absolutely threw that fight

will try again soon tm

[mossy zinc]

How do you throw Hestia vs dad?

[true fable]

i ask myself the same thing

[daring hedge]

zooming through bounties in hell mode with maxed shackle is nice but makes it hard to level literally any other keepsake

[true fable]

keeps me up at night really

[mossy zinc]

Did you do it mirrorless? Maybe mirrorless will get you out of this one.

[true fable]

...

plead the fifth

[mossy zinc]

Guess you'll be doing only boonless runs on that save, @daring hedge.

[true fable]

🤦‍♂️

[daring hedge]

waiting a billion years for achilles to do his GY dialogue so i can get rama

😔

[rain sedge]

grinding hell mode save

[true fable]

im imagining you posting in #h1-for-new-players asking how to get the dialogue

[sly remnant]

OH PLEASE

[formal gust]

tailesque depressed they don't have bow bae with them

[daring hedge]

hi i'm new here

how do you use the bow, the attack seems slow

[true fable]

how to unlock hidden spear???

[sly remnant]

and then in a week come in here and ask whats the best 32 heat setup

[formal gust]

hello what is heat

[rain sedge]

bOw WoRsT wEaPoN

[formal gust]

bow is my worst weapon

[rain sedge]

"spoiler it, it's a secret that there's a secret aspect"

"your message has been removed"

[sly remnant]

"should i be using power shots on rama? i think i should just do dio special"

[formal gust]

actually not a bad build

rama special seems fun

[rain sedge]

"guys I found this broken build of stacking doom on chiron special"

[formal gust]

just like, quick flourish and relentless

[daring hedge]

it's okay but takes infinitely more work than an attack-focused build and for much less damage

[formal gust]

but memes

[daring hedge]

good point

[gaunt fiber]

I was told not to power shot on Rama

[sly remnant]

NO WAY

[gaunt fiber]

"takes too much time you could do other things"

[mossy zinc]

You shouldn't use the Attack, it's weak, and you do a lot more damage faster shotgunning enemies with your Special.

[true fable]

still thinking about you coaching haelian and him doing curse of nausea

lmao

[daring hedge]

lol

[sly remnant]

tbf he almsot did it

[daring hedge]

and being denied curse of nausea twice

[sly remnant]

4 sacks to PepeHands

[daring hedge]

amir at the AP control panel

[formal gust]

with an evil grin

[mossy zinc]

I read it on brightrockmedia.

What makes the standard bow good is dashing next to monsters and unloading the special attack into them at point blank range. Few things in the game compare to the level of damage output that comes from doing that, and it works with pretty much any special flourish boon you choose.

You should do that, Tailesque.

[formal gust]

[mossy zinc]

I think you'll become a better bow player and beat dad one day.

[pine wigeon]

Is Zeus worth it? I love lightning but afraid Zeus can be meh

[daring hedge]

few things compare to the level of damage output

[mossy zinc]

That's kinda vague.

[honest kernel]

Zeus is meta on many weapons

Fists and Rail, notably

[true fable]

zeus good

[shy plinth]

He's shockingly good

[true fable]

🙂

[pine wigeon]

Gun?

[sly remnant]

zeus is probably the best overall god in the game. but i agree with nyaa that specificity is good

[honest kernel]

Gun = Rail

[mossy zinc]

No, he isn't.

Lady Aphrodite is the best by far.

Nobody else is even close.

Not even in the same conversation.

[pine wigeon]

I would make a banter of Aphrodite but that would be against the rules

[rain sedge]

unironically what I did for my first 20 runs or so

[shy plinth]

It's still good on switch

But my chiron only has 7 arrows

[rain sedge]

guess what... I am on switch

[shy plinth]

Oh spit

[true fable]

schad's gonna be playing on this patch until 2022

[rain sedge]

unironically yes

I'm quite close to buying it on PC

[sly remnant]

bruh do it

[rain sedge]

it's the save file too

idk, feels weird not using my own save file

[shy plinth]

That's where I'm at

But I have the game and controller ready

[rain sedge]

I'll see how long cyberpunk bugs take to patch out. If it's done before I finish AC valhalla, I'll continue playing this game casually

if not, eris 56

[pine wigeon]

Artemis kinda neat

[shy plinth]

Hoping Santa brings cross saves for xmas

[sly remnant]

artemis super neat

[formal gust]

I need the link to this

[true fable]

artemis very cool

[pine wigeon]

But ofc Dyonysus is my first choice after Zeus

[mossy zinc]

Chiron on Switch is better than on PC/Mac.

[true fable]

dio stinky

[shy plinth]

Damage is yuge

[sly remnant]

HEY BRIGHT

[true fable]

UC buffer boons

[rain sedge]

BeT

[sly remnant]

THATS SACRILEGE IN OUR TRIBE BRIGHT

[shy plinth]

Chiron worse for low tolerance though!

7 stacks cmon

[true fable]

dio cast is one of few things that are nonstinky in the dio pool

[sly remnant]

idk new drunken dash is kinda catching my eye

[rain sedge]

some people advocates for dio special on chiron

[mossy zinc]

Why would you even do Low Tolerance with Chiron in the Switch version?

With that base damage you have.

[rain sedge]

I say those people are wrong, but hey

[shy plinth]

Because variety

[true fable]

blackout is kinda nice

[mossy zinc]

Variety is for people who want to lose. Play top tier if you want to win.

[pine wigeon]

Dyonysus is basically Pandaren Brewer 😄

[sly remnant]

i'm thinking the new beo build is arti attack, poseidon special, dio cast, dio dash, zeus call

[mossy zinc]

https://brightrockmedia.com/2020/10/09/best-hades-aspects/

[true fable]

yeah im a fan of that after you pick up mirage

[mossy zinc]

Don't want people to see the thumbnail and think that's a good article.

[true fable]

do not want to get splitting headached out of mirage shot

[rain sedge]

imagine playing games for fun

[true fable]

you guys have fun?

[sly remnant]

ye its weird

[pine wigeon]

Ikr? Games for fun, bah

[mossy zinc]

I play games for my ego.

[sly remnant]

i didn't really have fun playing 50

[rain sedge]

if we're being real the 40 heat shield and sword was the most unfun I've had gaming in a while

[mossy zinc]

It's all about being better than others.

[sly remnant]

i kinda was just relieved when i beat 50

[rain sedge]

same

[pine wigeon]

I wish Titan Quest was as good as Hades

[true fable]

nah i enjoy every moment of this game tbh

[rain sedge]

BeT

[true fable]

even getting double cucked outta cast stones

[rain sedge]

the time I got double APed on mirage shot still seared in my mind

[honest kernel]

Guan Yu in S-tier

[pine wigeon]

is this word even allowed here? 🤔

[honest kernel]

The frick is that list LOL

[gaunt fiber]

seems right

[sly remnant]

beo not in SSS tier

smh

[rain sedge]

#h1-builds-and-combat wrote that, it seems

[honest kernel]

Zag bow in A-tier

What.jpg

[sly remnant]

my guess is their reasoning is ease-of-use, resource investment, and power

[rain sedge]

demeter D tier

lord in heaven

[sly remnant]

lmao what

ok demeter is easy as crap to use

[pine wigeon]

Which boon is better? Meg or

[honest kernel]

Zeus shield in B-tier

UWotM8.jpeg

[rain sedge]

rama C tier

[sly remnant]

zeus shield is fine just boring

[rain sedge]

tail in shambles

[true fable]

yeah im guessing its just for casual players tbh

schad seems up your alley

[rain sedge]

mhm I am indeed a casual

[pine wigeon]

nothing wrong with that

[rain sedge]

chiron is S tier though

anything below 40 heat is cool for chiron

[true fable]

burist the casual player tag is entirely sardonic

do not be fooled

[rain sedge]

I am as casual as it goes

[true fable]

he did 50 heat on a machine with the computing power of a prehistoric rock

[honest kernel]

If we are talking casual play

[rain sedge]

I play on the casual console

[honest kernel]

Why is Guan-Yu in S-tier and Hades aspect in D-tier

[gaunt fiber]

it's legit dude

come on

[pine wigeon]

Hades make poor ghosts cry, this man is heartless

[rain sedge]

you know what I can give you? I can give you a phone video of how bad it lags for rooms with multiplying mobs

since astaos wants phone video

[true fable]

LOL i have a switch so i can experience it firsthand

[rain sedge]

xD

[gaunt fiber]

We all need

[true fable]

garbage machinery

[rain sedge]

how does it run BOTW fine and not this 2D game tho

I say "fine", but some speedrun tactics in BOTW utilises the switch lag IIRC

[true fable]

have you seen shieldbouncing

funniest thing ive ever seen

[honest kernel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1or3YILu28M

WARNING : LOUD

[mossy zinc]

I bet BotW runs at 30 fps or something.

[honest kernel]

But this is an accurate representation of a BOTW speedrun

[gaunt fiber]

High heat Zelda

[mossy zinc]

While Hades tries to keep up 60 and drops sometimes.

[honest kernel]

Looks like something you'd expect out of a N64 game lol

[pine wigeon]

what's the deal with numbers?

[true fable]

obviously the pact isnt perfect but im glad that difficulty in this game directly changes core gameplay in some fashion

as opposed to like

fire emblem lunatic +

[sly remnant]

i think the pact is a really cool mechanic with good execution

[mossy zinc]

I wish the mirror wasn't bugged. Mine never does anything.

[sly remnant]

nyx doesn't like you anymore

[mossy zinc]

Of course she does.

[true fable]

do you just always play without mirror now nyaanyaa

[mossy zinc]

Maybe.

[true fable]

kind of an alpha move

[sly remnant]

no mirror is a lot of good heat with some aspects. it makes sense

[rain sedge]

lmfao this is a pretty good movie

pretty accurate too

[gaunt fiber]

nice vid

[honest kernel]

Terminal Montage's stuff is crazy

And I mean it in many ways

[shy plinth]

It's great unless you have neighbors

[honest kernel]

^

I DID SAY IT WAS LOUD

You were warned

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, but what if I only read half the things you say anyway.

[gaunt fiber]

Today is a nice day.

Very unusual.

[mossy zinc]

A nice day on which I say only nice things.

[gaunt fiber]

Yeah

And I cleared some runs

[daring hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654076105321480226/785984634013220924/20201208154136_1.jpg justlikerama.jpg

[gaunt fiber]

Almost forgot how it felt

[mossy zinc]

I almost remember seeing a really cool 40 Heat Achilles run a little while ago.

Almost.

But the board has no Achilles run, so it must have been my imagination.

[true fable]

twin explosive shot

excuse moi

[honest kernel]

Definitely was your imagination

[shy plinth]

Wow Tail that's great

With some more practice you won't even rely on Athena so much

Keep it up

[true fable]

definitely a good start for someone who just picked up the game

[rain sedge]

no attack or speical boon

what

[honest kernel]

Shackles

[daring hedge]

addicted to shackle

[mossy zinc]

Sorry, but this is high heat not #h1-victory-boasting.

[rain sedge]

forgive my small brain, I'm but a casual player

[honest kernel]

What have I created

Shackles is now an addiction source

[shy plinth]

People just want to keep rolling it up the hill

It's on brand

[sly remnant]

maybe he struggled with it!

15 heat

[daring hedge]

hey it's not your fault i did this to myself when i did the first high heat boonless

[sly remnant]

lotta heat for a new player

[honest kernel]

Oh ok

[rain sedge]

@daring hedge post to #hades-low-heat-boasting pls, this channel is for 60 heat chads only

[honest kernel]

...

So why does this channel have any message LOL

[daring hedge]

hey i'm new and 11 is high heat for me

[sly remnant]

nooooo i finally got my 50 clear don't make me go higher

[shy plinth]

We'll just revert to the early access clears

Post 120 heats

[honest kernel]

Don't make me go into a hellmode file and turn on EM4

[rain sedge]

d o i t

[gaunt fiber]

How bad is RI4 for 50heat?

[honest kernel]

...

Very

[rain sedge]

pretty unplayable

[sly remnant]

p sure its unplayable

[rain sedge]

since you cant turn on LC4

[mossy zinc]

Kinda free if you're Tailesque.

[daring hedge]

i guess i have to do mirrorless 50 now to tell everyone it's a good pact to pick there

[rain sedge]

I think you have to use some sort of healing hammer or aspect

[true fable]

yall are just tempting him to come back from hell mode

[gaunt fiber]

ah

[sly remnant]

i imagine he wants 58 heat

[mossy zinc]

He has Shackle leveled, so he can just do it boonless mirrorless.

[honest kernel]

https://gyazo.com/bfe95b093d84f64dcdbae2ec063bb11f That's technically 60 heat in Hellmode with PL

[daring hedge]

i want to be free from AP2 but i'll never get that

[rain sedge]

if you do it baj, you'd be king

this throne is too small for two kings

[mossy zinc]

I'd genuinely pick RI4 CP2 over EM4.

[honest kernel]

I won't LOL

TD3

At 'least CP2 isn't an issue

[rain sedge]

if we wanna be real for a moment here

isn't retrash just gonna get 60 heat once he stops memeing?

[mossy zinc]

After doing more EM4 practice, I've come to the conclusion that I still very much can't stand the fight.

[rain sedge]

he already masters EM4, surely once he stops using meme aspects he can just do pact setup like above

[honest kernel]

That or Tailesque does it first and banishes me into obscurity

[true fable]

does retrash do TD3 though

[daring hedge]

i did no such thing

[honest kernel]

...

[sly remnant]

retrash could do TD3 if he used good aspects i think

[rain sedge]

TD3 is just RNG roll at some point

[honest kernel]

Curse me and not being born with English in mind

[rain sedge]

one story room here, a side shop there, a fountain there

[true fable]

probably

[rain sedge]

and you're good

[sly remnant]

ehhhh. you don't need insane rng

honestly the biggest TD3 rng is tartarus and sack

[mossy zinc]

I thought he already did that when he barrel-rolled your 57 first try.

[rain sedge]

if we're being honest, I only timed out at tartartus or multi sacs

yeah

[true fable]

feel like you just need enough RNG

[rain sedge]

exactly

[sly remnant]

as long as its a 3 sac

i feel like i can play

which is like a 62% chance to happen

[honest kernel]

my 57 was a 3-sac lol

[rain sedge]

well, it's losing patty that sucks

[honest kernel]

With CP2

[sly remnant]

yea patty loss sucks

also the 3rd sac tunnel final room

takes forever

minibosses are way quicker

[true fable]

a 4 sack is just so much longer than a 3 sack it's absurd

[sly remnant]

yea it is

[honest kernel]

Because a 4-sack forces you into a regular room final encounter

Those take forever

[sly remnant]

^yep

[true fable]

im aware haha

[sly remnant]

like even when i'm speedrunning i'll take a 3 sac. its fine. its not that bad

[true fable]

oh trust me

i am

aware

[sly remnant]

but if i see a 4 sac

i'm resetting that run

[mossy zinc]

anyone: does something really amazing "whew, damn that was hard.. I finally made it after 60 tries. Gonna post about it now and get some pats on the back from the homies."
30 minutes later:
Tailesque: This was surprisingly easy lol. victoryscreen.jpg

[true fable]

well youre the one who's always telling him to do a barrel roll

[past plinth]

fact: jpg files are inferior to png

[true fable]

dont be surprised when he does one

[sly remnant]

ugh

i'm gonna give 52 one try out of tartarus

then i'm swearing it off

but i want the beo heat record

[rain sedge]

didnt you do 50 with EM4 or something

you have a lot of leeway in terms of heat

[sly remnant]

with beo?

not really

[daring hedge]

i don't sound like that!! slander!

[sly remnant]

beo can't take RI

it can't take AP2

[true fable]

what are you taking?

CF?

[sly remnant]

i'm finally turning on CF

[true fable]

mm

[sly remnant]

its better than not having good rooms

the legendary duo chance is whatever

but no dark foresight really hurts

[true fable]

time to download the save for PL tyler

[sly remnant]

i mean whats the point of doing 51

[gaunt fiber]

it's more than 50

[true fable]

well if you download the save you can at least do CF1

[sly remnant]

oh thats true

idk

i might do that

but i'd also like to submit to the leaderboards

since speed matters to me

i will say that CF1 PL is probably more correct for beo than CF2

[true fable]

just save the vod for when bablo wins the PL fight

[sly remnant]

or i just do 53 and tie the Early Access heat record on beo

[true fable]

i thought EA was 52?

was it 53?

[sly remnant]

nah bablo had 53

[true fable]

ah

[sly remnant]

i'll only be tying nyaanyaa with 52

[mossy zinc]

You're right, it's more humblebragging. "This was hard. Glad I somehow made it first try with no hammers and Tempest Strike." clear time: 16 minutes

[daring hedge]

[true fable]

"phew this one was tough" 10 minutes left on tight deadline, 3 DDs left

[mossy zinc]

"I almost got hit once."

[true fable]

"acorn almost ran out. close call!"

[rain sedge]

baj made it with tempest strike for his 57 lol

[mossy zinc]

"Missed one power shot in this run. Sad. Might have to do it over again to get it right."

[gaunt fiber]

Tempest strike has a great potential on many aspects

[rain sedge]

tempest strike on shield is still my first choice

[sly remnant]

press x to doubt

[rain sedge]

it's ok astaos

they dont understand, we've seen the truth

[sly remnant]

but...you already have knockback....

[rain sedge]

that's the point, more knockback, more good

[gaunt fiber]

We did

[rain sedge]

wall slam all the way

im being serious. I really like it

[true fable]

tempest strike beowulf is a very funny rookie mistake

[honest kernel]

That was in my 55 heat clear you goof, which I sold after Tartarus

[gaunt fiber]

same here

[honest kernel]

Tempest Flourish was my start in 57

[mossy zinc]

Did you learn that from the brightrockmedia article? It's probably true if it's from there.

[honest kernel]

Which turned into a Frost Flourish in the Asterius miniboss room

[rain sedge]

baj called me a goof 😦 😦 L:(

[honest kernel]

tempest strike cripples beowulf

[mossy zinc]

Tempest Flourish is good damage at least. Especially on Zeus' Aspect where it pushes all enemies away from the damage zone.

[gaunt fiber]

Yes actually. I don't claim that I've discovered it of course

[sly remnant]

tempest strike cripples <insert aspect here>

[rain sedge]

all I'm hearing is heresy against super soaker

ya hater

[sly remnant]

i mean i love soaker

why can't i just like a normal aspect

[true fable]

no regrets

[gaunt fiber]

Can't answer that

[mossy zinc]

Playing Tempest Strike is why Alecto calls you Zag trash god.

Because you picked up trash.

[gaunt fiber]

I like drowning her with it

[rain sedge]

too far 😧

[gaunt fiber]

She's lucky no to have HS on tho

She would steal my death% record

[true fable]

stygian shard is just turning on HS for enemies 🧠

[mossy zinc]

"The mortals have been polluting the seas with their trash, so I've collected some and turned it into a boon for you, little Hades. Have this Tempest Strike!"

Tempest Strike (Poseidon): Your Attack deals no damage and knocks foes away.

[honest kernel]

Hey you can't just pull the in-game description like that

[cinder cave]

No bully Poseidon

he obviously isn't just the weakest of the three brothers

[mossy zinc]

Rare Crop (Demeter): Your Boons become Common, then you have to sell them lmao.

[sly remnant]

hey poseidon has insane potential if you get boons

too bad the pact doesn't like that

[cinder cave]

But also

out of Zeus, Hades and Poseidon

[mossy zinc]

Nourished Soul (Demeter): Sell 1 Boon.

[true fable]

yeah you just need wave pounding breaking wave and typhoons fury and razor shoals to match half the damage of zeus attack

[cinder cave]

who would win the 1v1s

[sly remnant]

gdet sea storm!

[dire steppe]

rare crop is fine if you cf0

[sly remnant]

then your damage is great 🙂

[true fable]

ah yes next time i will simply get sea storm

maybe i should just pick up splitting bolt too

[dire steppe]

cf0 honestly is underrated

[true fable]

all before tart midshop of course

[sly remnant]

cf0 is absolutely underrated

[mossy zinc]

Crystal Beam (Demeter): Your Cast drops a crystal that fires a beam into the void for 5 sec.

[daring hedge]

Second Wave (Poseidon): haha funny knockback

[dire steppe]

Slicing Shot (Ares): Your Cast does nothing until you get Hunting Blades.

[cinder cave]

Should make a high-heat modded version of the Codex

[true fable]

real talk huge catch is better than second wave

[daring hedge]

truth

[true fable]

at least you get clout for huge catch

[dire steppe]

can we get a mod that straight up removes nourished soul with LC4

[true fable]

second wave people just point at you and laugh

[cinder cave]

we have enough material here to get started

[mossy zinc]

I'd be fine if we could just sell it.

[dire steppe]

all boons should be sellable tbh

even sunken treasure

[sly remnant]

i can defend some of poseidon's design because we all have a warped perception of the game

second wave's design makes zero sense to me

[dire steppe]

second wave should also make them hit twice

[cinder cave]

that's a meme right

[dire steppe]

easy F -> A tier

[true fable]

sunken treasure can be good

if youre like 100 short of another boon

[dire steppe]

sellable sunken treasure would be op

[rain sedge]

second wave works great with rupture, and if you knockback enemies to the wall with wave pounding and stuff

I'd take it on shield

[tardy path]

I bought a posedion boon just to get swaps and sunken treasure. I got less than I paid for that boon.

[rain sedge]

stop hating on broseidon, y'all aint hot