#h1-high-heat-strategies

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quiet acorn
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dont know what to do for gigggle mesh 40

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merciful end so boring after doing it like 2 times in a row

forest token
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Dash only

quiet acorn
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i tried with zeus the dmg is so dissappointing

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tidal dash is lame

cosmic olive
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How could you be so fast with 50 of heat

quiet acorn
forest token
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Dash only is literally 1 button

quiet acorn
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wat

forest token
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Well 5 for wasd

quiet acorn
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no movement either

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oh

wispy blade
forest token
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But dash only is pretty fun

cosmic olive
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Oh

wispy blade
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they werent playing speed

cosmic olive
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So I'm just slow asf lmao

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I don't really know how to play faster unmodded

forest token
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It's the same principles as modded

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Except you cry at certain minibosses

quiet acorn
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maybe i will play gilgamesh by unequiping and using eris instead

forest token
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Based

quiet acorn
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with heartbreak strike

cosmic olive
forest token
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Oh boy

forest token
# cosmic olive Which is?

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cosmic olive
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Thanks

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I will take a look

forest token
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Everything here translates to heat pretty much

quiet acorn
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actually i will try supersoaker eirs

cosmic olive
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I try to had heat 1 by 1 ^^

sinful zodiac
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do you have to face dad to block, I keep getting hit with the tail end of second phase sweep

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since I was facing his back

quiet acorn
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oops i started plume and swapped to god keepsake accidentally

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sad this timed out

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a fountain + an armoured flamewheel room couldve made it work

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or whatever a fast room is

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instead i get health buffed double damage greatshields and unarmoured archers

vestal knot
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Should I get all the rewards for every weapon before I go to a new heat or should I simply go to a new heat once I have the option?

quiet acorn
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As long as you hit themmeter you will get the reward even if it exceeds the gauge

sinful zodiac
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i don’t want titan blood, i want my 5 hp

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But yeah, the reward is incremental even if you exceed required heat

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Just go ham

vestal knot
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What did you guys do in the early stages of the game?

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If i ''go ham'', should i only stick with one weapon and upgrading it?

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Because i'm not sure if i will have enough titan blood for every weapon

sinful zodiac
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I upgraded meta aspect and grind them

forest token
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I maxed all the aspects before completing like half the bounties

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And still 100% the game

shy plinth
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Titan blood comes with fine - don't worry, you'll get there

forest token
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So like do whatever you like lol

shy plinth
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For what it's worth, you're more than welcome to ask for advice in here, but the feedback will be geared towards ultra high end content since this is high heat strats

left prism
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I cheated the blood the first time dusa

forest token
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Based

shy plinth
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We're happy to answer questions! But you're gonna get a very specific type of answer

vestal knot
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Noted, where can i ask these types of questions?

forest token
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Generally at least

shy plinth
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Ye

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And again you're welcome to ask here

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Just be aware that we're a bunch of degens lol

vestal knot
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Sweet, thanks

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lol

quiet acorn
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until that got boring halfway through and i did 32 heat

sinful zodiac
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Funny how you play the game at high heat, you start to appreciate the thing you can do at low heat

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Trial, charon or erebus

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Skipping midshop too, i hate taking midshop with nothing to buy

hoary pasture
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I can do those at high heat aswell

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might be a real gamer afterall

wispy blade
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i can even skip midshop in a speedrun

quiet acorn
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ive taken trial over midshop multiple times

forest token
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+1 stone tho :)

wispy blade
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i dont even need enshrouded to miss aspho midshop

quiet acorn
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charon i die to at low heat as well bedge

forest token
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although im pretty sure the other room would've been midshop

quiet acorn
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that what you think

forest token
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it was a 2 exit

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idk if that means anything

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c20 midshop sounds about right

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idk but like i still missed it lmao

quiet acorn
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does gilgamesh have a dash delay

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like it dashes a fe miliseconds after i hit dash

forest token
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yeah i think so

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i always felt it was more of a dash strike delay but i haven't played gilga in ages

quiet acorn
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whhy do they make stuff intentionally harder and worse

sinful zodiac
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I don’t think hidden aspect got as much play testing as other aspect

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So balancing issue is expected

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We got the extreme of both spectrum with beo and gilga lmao

forest token
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i think ea players said like gilga was released as the game globally launched

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so it got no testing lmao

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beo was 2nd to last so there wasn't enough testing for that, which is why they're lots of bugs

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also beo meta was charged flight so that didn't help lmao

quiet acorn
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love to see it

forest token
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based

sinful zodiac
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I think the beo lore actually start when player was forced to speedrun with it

quiet acorn
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yes i am a ddash start enjoyer

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i prefer not dying

forest token
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ddash only

quiet acorn
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isawwhatyoudeleted.gif

sinful zodiac
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Sigh, mah bad

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But people actually realized beo potential when they practice it

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I’m a lore nerd but finding early access lore is kinda hard bouldy

quiet acorn
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this thing is like playing with a chaos dash curse permanently on

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and i thought chiron was unintuitive

forest token
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lmfao

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tbf chiron is intuitive it's just like decent at one thing

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gilga just like

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sucks lol

quiet acorn
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i thought ill do a meme run for 40 but im actuall stuggling

forest token
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tbf gilga kinda bad

sinful zodiac
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I think going for smair is actually easier

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Start tdash then hoping for aphro

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Zeus aspho

quiet acorn
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draining cutter rush kick concentrated knuckle

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2nd hammer

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?

sinful zodiac
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Concentrated knuckle?

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Draining is useless

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Not sure about rush kick being detrimental or not

quiet acorn
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if i have rare hyperdelivery would i get more dps from +3 dash or +40% haste

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dash probablly

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this build is juiced

forest token
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40% haste is 80% more movement speed, 3/4 of that is like 60%, so 120% more damage in 2 dashes
3 dashes probably does more damage

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Idek if my math is right

quiet acorn
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more dashes is fun

forest token
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True

quiet acorn
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im going to upload that dad fight it ended so fast

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lol i thought lucifer sucks until i realized im still on 1 dash

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19/24 40 heats done

forest token
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what do you have left

quiet acorn
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swords and spears

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hades zagspear

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zagsword

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pos

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nemesis

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uh technically zagrail

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but the 50 should count

forest token
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it should lmao yeah

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unless you wanna submit all 24 runs to the 40 heat speed leaderboard

quiet acorn
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most of them are past 17 mins

forest token
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you'll have a giant wall of False Side on the leaderboard tho

quiet acorn
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how do these leaderboards work

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i keep hearing stuf like sheet and leaderboard but which is it referring to

forest token
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"sheet" is referring to the sub6 sheet

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leaderboard is like src

quiet acorn
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the website is annoying to us

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use

quiet acorn
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idk why i tried picking up the flaming hot garbage known as rama again

forest token
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Skill issue

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Just don't die

quiet acorn
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i died to butterfly miniboss

forest token
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Should've just not died tbh

forest token
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could be bad sd management

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or like butterfly hit stun lol

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they still spawn before you can power shot

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other aspects can go like right on top and be fine

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rama needs distance and might move to a different location before you can get a second power shot in

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might've spawned an ely archer too lmao

forest token
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no for like

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attacking lmao

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it's still like

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pain sometimes

sinful zodiac
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ri0 ap2 is funny, I got too many boons that taking pom is a huge risk

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so I just stack hp and overtime at dad lmao

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when should I take pom, feel like lv2 zeus special at dad is kinda sus

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15:30 entrance btw

forest token
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entrance into dad?

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i mean i feel like at that point it's too late lmfao

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if you only have thunder flourish for your damage and no scaling you prob want more poms into that

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it'll probably work tho tbh it'll just take a bit

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i think when i did like 40 or 45 without static discharge it took a while

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yeah idk how long i took since it doesn't have splits and i didn't record high heat runs back then

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but i do remember it taking a good amount of time

sinful zodiac
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em4 dad so it's definitely sus

cosmic olive
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Do someone have tips to speed up my runs? Best Time IS 13:14 and It seems very slow compared to you all

(I looked at the video to have a decent build but still too slow it seems :/)

sinful zodiac
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my pb was around 13 when I first cleared 50 so it's probably fine

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depend on the pact mostly

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it was a 3 sack too

cosmic olive
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First game since a long Time on 3 of heat lmao

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I augment the heat one by one

jaunty falcon
cosmic olive
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'kek

quiet acorn
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i wish this happened in my real runs

sinful zodiac
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Nephioh arthur run had that

quiet acorn
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wow u watch everything lol

wispy blade
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thats a pretty famous run tho

sinful zodiac
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I’m a nerd lmao

wispy blade
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he loses all of them in dad fight from going over time lol

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arthur badge

quiet acorn
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i have barely watched any high heat runs at all

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only remember and eris one a hestia one and gilgamesh recentl

sinful zodiac
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Arthur probably cap at 58 because dc2 and ri3 shafted it too badly

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No boiling blood is pain

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And no one want to em4 cp2 with arthur

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So 57 it remain

quiet acorn
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does divine dash even help for safety if i hav delta chamber

forest token
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i dont think so technically since you have full iframes on dash strikes already

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but also like ddash is fun lmao

sinful zodiac
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You can always go for divine flourish to fish for dd. TIL most flourish have the same multiplier

forest token
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divine and frost have similar/same i believe

quiet acorn
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yeah i find myself using pash dash and divine flourish more often

forest token
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pos is 2nd highest, aphro highest

quiet acorn
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weak is awesome for em4

wispy blade
quiet acorn
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i was just wondering if i was missing out on something by not using ddash

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idk how yuo beat em4 i die with 4 defiances

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5 dashes

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i stick to em3 gaming

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i died at 32 heat 2 days ago

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boonless lucifer

quiet acorn
wispy blade
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yeah

quiet acorn
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can someone give me an interesting run to do

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not too hard but not too easy

wispy blade
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sub7 zeus

quiet acorn
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let me sub7 anything first

wispy blade
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its free

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i alreayd have like 3 of them

quiet acorn
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yea but thats you

waxen relic
quiet acorn
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i already did mirrorless boonless 32 i think

cold kiln
quiet acorn
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that sounds like rama special only lmao

cold kiln
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honestly zag bow with thunder flourish might be better

quiet acorn
cold kiln
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give it a whirl imo

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
quiet acorn
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yea just assume i did that

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done

cold kiln
quiet acorn
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rama

sinful zodiac
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rama of course

sinful zodiac
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yo I found your longspear @quiet acorn

quiet acorn
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wow u do a lot of backreading

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lol

quiet acorn
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based

quiet acorn
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does this work?

forest token
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Probably

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If you don't want to do ap2 or em4 then yeah

wispy blade
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id prefer ap2 ri0

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to ap1 iri1

quiet acorn
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ap1 for zeus

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idk ap2 just makes it x2 harder

wispy blade
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waitg

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what are u starting

quiet acorn
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zeus

wispy blade
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oh

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yeah ig

quiet acorn
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also easier for getting ddash and defiances which i have learnt to crutch upon

cosmic olive
left prism
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bounties cap at 20 heat, 25 on hell mode

cosmic olive
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Oooooh, I didn't knew that O_O

quiet acorn
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but if you havent completed bounties upto 20 yet you will get the next levels bounties as long as the heat is higher than or equal ot the requirement

forest token
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I completed 17 heat rail bounties by doing 40 heat on hestia lmao

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Missed out on good hp smh

cosmic olive
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But, If you do the 20 heat, but haven't completed between 5 to 19 that skip the blood?

quiet acorn
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if you do 20 heat you will get the bounties of 5

bleak grotto
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Nope! It'll only reward you for the lowest bounties you've yet to collect

quiet acorn
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if you do it at 20 again you will get the bounties of 6

cosmic olive
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OOOOH

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Niiice

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I was doing it in the order not to skip one 😭😭😭😭😭😭

bleak grotto
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It's certainly easier to run them in order

wispy blade
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i feel like there have to be points of heat where running exactly that heat is harder than some other heat above it

quiet acorn
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would you want more dashes or hypersprint

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i guess sprint if you have nectar for 2nd herms

edgy ermine
forest token
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ri4 is harder than like idk em2 td3 lmao

wispy blade
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no like

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you know how at some points in the progression you take like

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hl1 or something for filler

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or like 12 heat is listed as em3 mm bp1 uc

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but em3 mm uc td2 would be easier

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but that’s more heat

forest token
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i mean isn't that more or less the examples we gave but less extreme

wispy blade
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no cause it’s like

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ri4 is obviously a bad choice for 8 heat right

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i mean just like being forced to take worse pacts because a pact that might be easier is worth more heat

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while not trying to make a meme pact or anything

forest token
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isn't that just reddit pacts

wispy blade
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redditge

quiet acorn
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aphro aid is goated early

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charm a crystal thingy and it clears the room for you

wispy blade
quiet acorn
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i wonder if it scales with ur other boons

wispy blade
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no

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other than

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sweet surrender

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maim

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targeting system

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anything else which affects enemy damage taken

quiet acorn
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once one of the blue guys backstabed

sinful zodiac
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Finally surviving lernie with 1 sd monodash

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Jesus that was hell

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Well that was easy, even got offered greatest reflex

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Lernie hardest boss fr

quiet acorn
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man i used up my athena dd in a tiny styx chamber

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hit a sawblade thrice

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ddash is rigged even empty dashes dont deflect or give iframes

cosmic hedge
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Wath is the best goad ?

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(Zeus,Poseidon,...)

ashen garnet
quiet acorn
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ah thats what probably screwed me over

quiet acorn
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can any one send a clip of beatin alecto

wispy blade
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on what

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with what

quiet acorn
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achilles

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at this point i just reset at alecto

wispy blade
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at 50?

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gruh

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its a pretty simple recipe

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-have hammer

quiet acorn
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die

wispy blade
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-dont keep doing rotation

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-go around alecto instead of towards

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-dont waste ur dashes

quiet acorn
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i think im just bad at the game and try enough times until i eventually do something due to probability

wispy blade
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you'll figure it out

quiet acorn
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i diege to hades twice in a row

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once i forgot acorn

mint crow
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So I’m doing 50 heat (not hell mode) on beo so I took em4 over ap2 and thinking if I should take both and take off some HL and CP

wispy blade
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modded or unmodded

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if u can def take off cp

mint crow
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Unmodded and on console

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Not being able to one hit unarmored witches feels bad

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with the special

quiet acorn
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is it normal for 90+% of runs to end in tartarus

wispy blade
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probably not

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what pact are you doing

quiet acorn
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the one i showed

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i just die to furies

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over

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and over

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and over

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and over

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if i cross them i reach hades

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and die

wispy blade
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i did

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hl5 lc4 cf2 js2 em3 cp1 bp2 mm uc fo1 hs ri2 dc2 ap2 td3 pl

quiet acorn
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just twice

wispy blade
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so you can do that pact but fo2 and then take off like

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a point in js cp and pl

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or ri and 1 js

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or just that pact

quiet acorn
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why would you do that pact

wispy blade
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idk

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funny

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wasnt that bad tho

quiet acorn
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i dont like thisg ame but i must play it

wispy blade
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do u just want achilles 50

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or spear 50

quiet acorn
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same thing right

wispy blade
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no

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u can do GY

quiet acorn
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guan yu was the hardest 40 heat ive ever done

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did i mention i suck at this game

wispy blade
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idk

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try zagspear then

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by attempt count zagspear is the easiest 50 ive done

quiet acorn
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its like the same thing but less mobility

wispy blade
forest token
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tbf achilles is like

quiet acorn
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i wil ldo zagspear after all weps

forest token
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not safe at all lmao

wispy blade
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heres what i did

quiet acorn
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damage isnt problem i just suck at using dash to dodge

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for anything

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for the past 2 month i just take either delta chamber or +dashes with ddash and avoid learnign to dash

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doyou actually have to stop attacking and empty dash when you are supposed to dash

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becaise thats very boring and unfun way to pplay

wispy blade
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just when u need iframes

quiet acorn
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always

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i dont get how ur supposed to do it

wispy blade
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you have played enough to know the enemy attack patterns

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if ur in a place where ur gonna get hit by an attack thats coming u empty dash

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idk upload a vod

quiet acorn
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i already permanently quit this game 4 times

quiet acorn
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im begiinning to thing meg and alecto arent clearable

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i havent beaten either in 2 whole days

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ill make a compilation

wispy blade
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ok hold on

quiet acorn
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ill wait for it to process i cant rly see anything

wispy blade
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its hd

quiet acorn
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yea the hd hasnt processed yet

wispy blade
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no the hd processed

quiet acorn
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idk you have the atack cycle figured out

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if you saw my play you would start crying

wispy blade
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its just

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q q dash hold mouse1 dash

quiet acorn
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doesnt happen

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why does your meg telegraph her attacks

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also is lucifer reload bugged

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letting go of atk doesnt autoreload when it hits 0 50% of the time

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ill have to record this as well

quiet acorn
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but i cannot

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do

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it

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at all

wispy blade
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i cant tell that much without watching a vod

quiet acorn
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all my attempts feel pointless

wispy blade
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but maybe ur underestimating the range

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try and circle around the fury with ur dashes

quiet acorn
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no im doing lucifer now

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but like its the same thing

wispy blade
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dont go like directly towards or away

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oh well luci is way different

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but i mean

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i guess that principle applies

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go in circle

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not in line

quiet acorn
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i feel like u just have to get atleas 200 hp so you can tank the undodgable attacks

wispy blade
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theres nothing undodgeable

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except for that one thing

quiet acorn
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every single ground circle is undodgeable

wispy blade
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just dont attack during that period

quiet acorn
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they have 0 cooldown they pop as soon as theyappear

wispy blade
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use ur dash iframes

quiet acorn
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i have like 12 clips

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from the past hour

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ill get like 8 more and compile them

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idk why im suddenly having a problem with this i used to be able to near consistently clear even with ri2

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i think i should switch back to abysal

quiet acorn
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man

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im going to catch surface fish get the badge thing and be done with. this game

quiet acorn
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blabla i am in denial and will not agre with anythign

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👍

sinful zodiac
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how to quit hades

rugged hinge
hazy pecan
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why is this in high heat strategies?

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the meg stuff i mean

wispy blade
forest token
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because the context was 50 heat or something iirc

wispy blade
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unless you mean to tell me you think 50 heat is low heat

nocturne stag
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64 heat is the only high heat. 63 is for babies

hazy pecan
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i though that was like normal meg

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i got confused

quiet acorn
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i think i can do fists 50 heat soon

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
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you're doing gilga 48?

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based and gilga-pilled

quiet acorn
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i mean i tried 1 attempt

sinful zodiac
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you can use td2 to take the fight slower, you seem to struggle with tis circle waves

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iframe or go the opposite direction is easier but you can't really do it if you are panic

quiet acorn
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1 min is more than enough

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chaos dem luci arthur achilles on my todo list

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luci should be free il ldo that now

quiet acorn
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all attempts are dying to random asphodel chambers for some reason

sinful zodiac
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did you get the cringe drakon?

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I hate those

quiet acorn
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either that

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or speeder bomber guys

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spend their time in the air and occasionally visit the ground

sinful zodiac
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understandable

quiet acorn
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i think ill try drunk with ap2 ri0

sinful zodiac
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hell yeah, more HP, early hammer

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pom can be a pain tho

quiet acorn
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dont get any other boons

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nah

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til there are different types of bombers

sinful zodiac
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there are 3 of them iirc

quiet acorn
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i used to think there is 1

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and they have 2 attacks

sinful zodiac
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purple explode in place only

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green throw homing bomb

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and the normal one have 2 attacks yeah

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actually I don't remember much about the green one, but I hate them the most

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yeah the green one can throw a fast bomb or homing bomb

quiet acorn
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i am clearly mid dash

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and it does not deflect head slam

sinful zodiac
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yeah I'm not an expert on lernie but did you press anything mid dash?

quiet acorn
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yea

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i get ddash so im allowed to do that

sinful zodiac
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might have more luck asking other because I don't really understand deflect that well

edgy ermine
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Deflect doesn’t work against aoe, or I just have horrible timing

quiet acorn
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that makes sense

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but im sure its worked before

ashen garnet
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fwiw, I remember that ddash deflect lasts for longer than ddash iframes

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Animation kinda misleading

quiet acorn
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Ah

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Delta chamber has spoilt me

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Beyond fixing

cosmic olive
edgy ermine
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Deflect also doesn’t work on hades’ swing, iframes are better, just need to be careful to not press something

quiet acorn
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any situation where ud take midshop over eurydice?

edgy ermine
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Low life no dd

quiet acorn
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man lucifer sucks so bad it takes forever to kill literally anything

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have to use the entire clip to take the armour off an armoured enemy

somber kraken
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special and shoot it for big dmg

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triple bomb really helps it

quiet acorn
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for that i have to get a hammer

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and then manage to get a boon for it

gaunt fiber
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Can play it like bad Eris

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And indeed triple bomb helps

quiet acorn
#

u should try

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do allspects 40

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true

jaunty falcon
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Lazy

quiet acorn
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well whats the point of anything

jaunty falcon
#

You dont need to do that for 40

quiet acorn
#

yeah you still run ri0 ap0

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im more sucker i just spend too much time

quiet acorn
#

c14 do be the white palace

shy plinth
#

Looks more like the path of pain

sinful zodiac
#

Don’t really know how people do path of pain in hk, i’m so bad at that game so i end up back here lmao

quiet acorn
#

pretty much like every game once its muscle memory it gets much easier

rugged hinge
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not quite as much muscle memory as others, since cycles and hold to jump are very big factors

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its moreso pure skill and knowledge of how to do stuff

sinful zodiac
#

great shield slam zagcry

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both epic flourish and jolted

quiet acorn
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it just shows the biome you died in anyway

quiet acorn
#

for eris as 2nd god would u force athena or aphro

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extra dds sound awesome but weak/smair possibility sounds great too

quiet acorn
#

pov there are 3-4 saw blades somewhere

forest token
#

Tis moment

forest token
#

true

quiet acorn
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i did 😎

forest token
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what about after that

quiet acorn
forest token
#

fair enough

thick sentinel
#

lernie moment

sinful zodiac
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god damn anthony

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painge

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don't think I can make it

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epic jolted and dio call

wispy blade
#

it's 60 heat dawg

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well they've been trying 60

sinful zodiac
#

pot moment

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and so many sneak

quiet acorn
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ngl shield looks comfy

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compared to gun atleast

forest token
#

shield is always comfy

sinful zodiac
#

yeah, really comfy, just have to get to dad fast enough

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I took earing all the way to styx btw

quiet acorn
#

based

forest token
#

damn gamer

sinful zodiac
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it was the only way, aspho 8;30 exit

forest token
#

tbf that's not terrible i dont think

#

sounds like an ely moment

sinful zodiac
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14:03 ely exit i think

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anthony happened

quiet acorn
#

i was trying zagrail 52 recently i had a 9:57 aspho exit

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it does piss damage

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no

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zeus

forest token
#

spread fire kinda dangerous at 52 tbf

quiet acorn
#

ooohh

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i had 50 seconds to beat heroes i actually almost managed it

sinful zodiac
#

another 3:xx dad entrance

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patty and common flourish+jolted edition

quiet acorn
#

what do you take at first hermes

jaunty falcon
#

Hyper sprint

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I’m sure that was very useful 6 hrs after you asked shadesmile

quiet acorn
#

😃

forest token
#

Considering it's only ap1 you still have a decent chance at Rd lmao

quiet acorn
#

no comment

quiet acorn
#

if u have 3 stone and no chaos do u take common shot or grasp?

somber kraken
#

I'd take grasp

jaunty falcon
#

Grasp

somber kraken
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common shot sucks

#

not even a braid amount of boost

quiet acorn
#

can you get blizzard shot?

forest token
#

On beo?

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No

quiet acorn
#

thats nice

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em4 sucks

#

how much would i need to instaphase

forest token
#

I mean probably standard juiced speed build lmao

#

Rd and ichors would make it a lot easier

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Mirage, rare+ Rd, and like 3 ichors probably lmao

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Braids and stones and whatnot

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Chaos buffs

quiet acorn
#

i got stubborn roots and tried to turtle to regen

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but he go through sheifl

forest token
#

Lmao classic

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45 heat beo?

quiet acorn
#

yea

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i just wanted to try big juice em4

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will probably try 40 with js0 cf0

forest token
#

If you get mirage and Rd then it shouldn't be that bad tbh

#

Thatd work

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Mirage and Rd would make like a sub1 normal dad fight

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For em4 it'd probably be like 1:30 idk

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Assuming like no other additives

quiet acorn
#

yea but heat so you have to be safe too

forest token
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It's beo tho lmao

#

You can get away with some sloppiness

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As long as you have big chunks it should be fine

#

Still have to play clean but I wouldn't like stress about it that much

quiet acorn
forest token
#

Well don't do that lmao

quiet acorn
#

wait not it

forest token
#

Also why don't you dash strike your cshots

quiet acorn
#

stubborn root momen

forest token
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Classic

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That's why we don't turtle

quiet acorn
#

i had half given up because all i had was +1 stone

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and nothing else

forest token
#

No mirage?

quiet acorn
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i mean mirage is a given

forest token
#

Tbf that's not bad

quiet acorn
#

yea but im only doing this for instaphase numbers

forest token
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Then why are you doing high heat lmao

quiet acorn
#

well

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idk any lower feels too

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idk

forest token
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Lmfao

#

"damn too easy"

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I mean at that point you just need better rng if you're gonna do that

quiet acorn
#

ri0 ap0 still so its basically anyheat

forest token
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If you're going for a standard speedrunning build at that high heat then just get the boons idk man

#

True

quiet acorn
#

ill try with clockets at 50 heat

forest token
#

Em4?

quiet acorn
#

yea

forest token
#

Yeah just get the 2 hammers

#

Eris still needs Rd and ichors for that damage iirc

#

Or like really good chaos

#

Beo is probably easier tbh

#

You benefit from wells more

quiet acorn
#

actually ill beat my 40 pb

#

should i take dc2 or ap1?

forest token
#

40 heat speed gaming?

quiet acorn
#

yea my pb is just below 10

forest token
#

Ap1 because fiery rocket kinda good

wispy blade
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dont play 40 heat

#

speed

forest token
#

Dc2 still slows you down

forest token
quiet acorn
wispy blade
#

well yea

forest token
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It's only pain if you really grind it past like sub7 or sub8

wispy blade
#

40 pact is just set

#

hl5 lc4 cf1 em3 bp2 mm uc fo2 hs ap1 td3

quiet acorn
#

ok 32

#

at this point wrong channel

wispy blade
#

hl5 lc4 em3 bp1 uc fo2 hs td3

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or em2 bp2

forest token
#

There's no pact variation for 40 heat speed lmao

wispy blade
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or something

forest token
#

32 heat has more leniency

wispy blade
#

or mm instead of uc

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32 has like

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options that exist

quiet acorn
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do u still take hc at 32 or is that too 😬

wispy blade
#

you can do partial lc pacts

forest token
#

It's pointless

wispy blade
#

i think they're viable

forest token
#

Or that

wispy blade
#

but my sub6 was lc4

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so

forest token
#

Lc4 kinda shafts hc

wispy blade
#

the issue isn't dying

#

the issue is chaos

#

with 50 hp you are not guaranteed to be able to enter chaos

forest token
#

Youd actually need centaur hearts lmao

wispy blade
#

yeah you need 1 or 2

forest token
#

Ngl I've always underrated hc until like last night

#

I had 1 stone damage at lernie then I lost hc

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Then it wasn't 1 stone

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I was sad

wispy blade
#

hc is important

#

everything in heatspeed in tart sucks ass because no hc

forest token
#

For tart ik it's important but I've kinda underrated it past tart

wispy blade
#

doing trig to kill a witch'

#

it's still kinda important past tart

forest token
#

Yeah I know now lmao

wispy blade
#

thats why you'll sometimes see people on beo take hydralite at patty

honest kernel
#

gamers what is the best way to beat 32 heat?

wispy blade
#

check pins

forest token
#

There's a guide pinned

wispy blade
#

i wonder who wrote it

quiet acorn
#

apple or something

honest kernel
#

thanks gamers

#

ya'll chill af

wispy blade
#

but yeah basically

#

heatspeed is like anyheat except worse in every way

#

for 32 and 40

quiet acorn
#

plume for aspho if u have everything right

quiet acorn
wispy blade
#

there are more things

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hourglass purse

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egg even

#

another god

quiet acorn
#

earring

wispy blade
#

at heatspeed maybe

forest token
#

New meta

wispy blade
#

if only the one good 40 heat aspect always wants to do something into aspho

quiet acorn
#

what is the difference other than mm no survival and uc

wispy blade
#

bp

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em3

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cf

#

no hc

#

you can get, in c2, a 3waver of individual thugger armored thugs

quiet acorn
#

ah yea

quiet acorn
#

i have beter things to do

quiet acorn
#

give me a random heat thing to do

wispy blade
#

random ehat

quiet acorn
#

not pact

#

i mean weapon and build

wispy blade
#

nem ME

quiet acorn
#

no sword

wispy blade
#

zagspear exploding launcher

quiet acorn
#

and no guan yu or zeus shielf

#

ok

quiet acorn
#

epic swwift fourish goes hard

#

no charged skewer goes soft

#

time out 🗿

#

no damage with charged skewer

quiet acorn
#

nice randomizer

#

very random

sinful zodiac
#

heatspeed 50 doesn't care about hc because of ri2 :croven:

sinful zodiac
#

how good is piercing fire, I rewatched haelian 58 hestia it's seem really good and doesn't get bricked as bad against shield and savior

quiet acorn
#

its nice 2nd hamer but i wouldnt set as first

forest token
#

ricochet is kinda better for consistency

#

piercing shields and getting line ups are def nice tho

wispy blade
#

if ur playing modded just do hazard

#

turns out highest base damage in the game good

forest token
#

true lmao

#

if you're doing unmodded tho it's kinda hard to brick on hestia hammers i think

#

it's just like spread fire and delta chamber that suck

#

yeah some are a lot worse than others but they still benefit you in some way i think

wispy blade
#

well

forest token
#

oh flurry fire too

wispy blade
#

you can't actually brick

#

you can just get a nothing hammer

forest token
#

well that's kinda what i mean

wispy blade
#

i usually took brick to mean like

#

hazard on eris

forest token
#

yeah that's fair tbh

wispy blade
#

or cursed slash

forest token
#

yeah wrong term but you get the idea lmao

#

most of the time you'll get something that benefits you

#

ap2 is free (it is probably not)

wispy blade
#

yeah there’s usually something decent

#

hazard ricochet piercing targeting triple cluster rocket

forest token
#

whenever i finish my 50 no resets beo i'm probably gonna try to get a 50 heat unmodded on hestia

sinful zodiac
#

Or you can try the gamer pact ri0 ap0 dc2 em4

#

Guarantee a build

forest token
#

dc2 hestia dusa

quiet acorn
sinful zodiac
#

TIL you can fill the skelly dd spot

rapid hawk
#

didn't keep the slot though

#

so not sure why even buy the dd

sinful zodiac
#

watch the dad fight, he revived

#

and the guy've just became the second person to clear 64 unseeded unmodded

rapid hawk
#

wtf

#

that definitely seems unintended and a bug

sinful zodiac
#

same thing with athena dd fill sd slot

rapid hawk
#

I don't think it is

#

cause he visibly lost the slot

#

once he switched off

sinful zodiac
#

i mean in a sense, why remove it when it's still healthy for the game

rapid hawk
#

I mean no one is going to fix anything at this point

#

but the athena thing gives you extra slot, so that at least looks like it's supposed to work that way

#

this one visually removes it but still works which feels weird

sinful zodiac
#

no, only chaos give you extra slot, athena only fill it

rapid hawk
#

athena fill it but then you get SD in addition

sinful zodiac
#

and you still lose that slot it after you die with sd

#

I tried

rapid hawk
#

but you have two slots when it's active

#

is my point

#

you actually have that slot

#

here it goes away

sinful zodiac
#

yeah, i can see your point since athena dd is visible, this is just weird

#

probably relate to ri4 hiding all dd but not actually delete it i guess

rapid hawk
#

like I'm not saying it shouldn't count or anything, there's plenty of bugs in this game that get used all the time, and I don't really care about it one way or another, but the fact that he refills the DD, gets the refill and then loses the slot itself when switching skelly off implies that the game is removing the DD, so I would say the intention was to remove the DD

#

although I could of course be wrong

quiet acorn
#

what bug

rapid hawk
#

in the video above, he uses skelly DD, buys a DD refill off a well, then switches skelly to acorn

#

but in hades fight he dies and it triggers the DD

#

you can see it when he leaves aspho

#

and the DD slot went away when he switched to acorn

quiet acorn
#

thats a sick bug

sinful zodiac
#

you can probably ignore it if you don't ever intend to touch ri4

quiet acorn
#

at what point is it a bug though

rapid hawk
#

imo the fact that visually it removed the slot

#

when switching keepsake

sinful zodiac
#

I think athena thing is probably a bug but the dev just keep it

quiet acorn
#

on sd?

rapid hawk
#

13:08 and 29:50

#

in the video

#

are the relevant times

quiet acorn
#

is it not faster to reset in c2

quiet acorn
#

i dont understand how room difficulty works

#

sometimes i get a 4 skullomat 1 waver in c12 with js3

#

sometimes i get a 3 waver in c6 with third wave having 4 skullomats + witches

sinful zodiac
quiet acorn
#

chance at epic fourish from hermes

sinful zodiac
#

as long as the sum of enemies difficulty add up to chamber difficulty

quiet acorn
#

or

#

heroic pos special

#

max meme

sinful zodiac
#

what is your build??

quiet acorn
#

kinda cursed

#

lol

sinful zodiac
#

explo launcher zag spear?

quiet acorn
#

yea

#

timed out at dad on my first time so i thought ill try again

sinful zodiac
#

I would take nectar tbh, it's ap1

quiet acorn
#

2nd attempt

#

i get epic rd and hypersprint

#

and reset in lava

#

but i dont have sd

sinful zodiac
quiet acorn
#

3rd attempt

#

i start aphro and now have heroic poseidon special

sinful zodiac
#

The meme carry on

quiet acorn
#

the meme die

#

ok so

#

imagine

#

same situation but aphro

#

yea resetting for 2nd hamemr is cringe

sinful zodiac
#

That’s why people play guan yu

#

Or cast build achilles for 45

quiet acorn
#

ok that was the last attempt i never try again

#

maybe zagrail em4 shenanigans

sinful zodiac
#

why would you want to do that

#

the wr is em3

quiet acorn
#

I meant like

#

40 heat

sinful zodiac
#

reset fr

#

I would rather take maimed or flayed

quiet acorn
#

zagrail probably most unsatisfying weapon in the game

#

its like eris but completely dry

quiet acorn
#

lol

#

moment

#

greatshield fear rekindled

sinful zodiac
#

piercing fire would be great with those guys

#

Piercing Wave arthur anglethanthink

quiet acorn
#

unavoidable attacks

#

if u try to dash out u just get hit

sinful zodiac
#

zeus shield is the way

quiet acorn
#

zeus shield will be my last 50 heat

#

chaos shield before cshot tho

sinful zodiac
#

wait what, literally the best heat climber aspect thanthink

quiet acorn
#

my live reaction

sinful zodiac
#

I think I can do unmodded consistenly with it now

#

at 50

quiet acorn
#

nice

#

but why

#

its just modded but more attempts

sinful zodiac
#

just need to get better without explosive return

#

I want to try if i can do it with 3 or 4 sack

#

my first unmodded 50 was 3 sack

#

but that run was blessed

quiet acorn
#

i was going to try eris unmodded today

#

then i realized that means no mods

#

so i didnt

sinful zodiac
#

understandable

quiet acorn
#

td0 strats

#

nvm it only works if you can be 100% certain you can block everything in the game

sinful zodiac
#

as long as you don't stand too close too him

#

only spear throw and skull throwing go through shield at point blank

#

as far as i know

quiet acorn
#

i mean

#

everything

#

not hades

#

from tartarus

sinful zodiac
#

people had done it

#

but do you really want to sit over 1h rta for a clear

#

it's a based pact, not a fun pact

#

I would rather get gud with em4

quiet acorn
#

what was the bug with dio beo again

jaunty falcon
#

Poms increase by twice as much as the description says

#

So instead of common being 100 -> 160 its 100 -> 220

quiet acorn
#

ok and i think someone said something about mirage shot unbugging on it?

jaunty falcon
#

Untrue

quiet acorn
#

dam

jaunty falcon
#

Although i think ice wine makes mirage shot unbugged

#

Saw it on Reddit recently

quiet acorn
#

oh thats probably it

#

lol 1k dmg per stone by mid aspho feels illegal even for beo

wispy blade
#

its not unheard of

#

thats basically a little over 1stone damage

quiet acorn
#

how much hp to phase em3 bul

wispy blade
#

instaphase?

#

phase 1 em3 theseus has more hp than bull

#

something like 10k

quiet acorn
#

oh right

#

ned some wells

wispy blade
#

basically

#

if a good anyheat heros is 4s

#

a good em3 heroes is like 10

quiet acorn
#

4s Starege

wispy blade
#

wat

forest token
#

good anyheat ranges from like 4-8 lmao

#

like it's fine

#

my standards are much lower lmfao

quiet acorn
#

ive been sleepiing on bio

quiet acorn
#

overrated

wispy blade
quiet acorn
#

bad game

bleak grotto
quiet acorn
#

im sure zeus is the worst shield

forest token
#

True

wispy blade
forest token
#

Zeus is so bad it can't do 65 heat

quiet acorn
#

i try to use the special and die

#

zeus shield is like chaos shield except its slower and theres only 1 special instead of 5

forest token
#

Aspect of cshot

quiet acorn
#

watch

#

just free lightning rod in lategame

quiet acorn
#

dumb game

forest token
#

Ri moment

quiet acorn
#

i think any future. fun runs i do will be at 40 heat not too easy but not require more than like 2-3 attempts to get the boons

quiet acorn
forest token
#

lmfao

#

it really did not

#

mysterra did like 70 heat or something

#

tbf no ri, ap, and cf1 or something

#

but still like mad impressive

quiet acorn
#

Yea

nocturne stag
#

Where are y'all obtaining 70 heat?

forest token
#

99 heat mod

nocturne stag
#

Why stop at 99?

forest token
#

it just lets you add higher amounts to the current pact

#

idk lmao

#

maybe that's how high the heat counter was programmed to be

#

and they dont want to mess with that but everything else was fine

nocturne stag
#

IG eventually most of the pacts stop doing anything if you add more

forest token
quiet acorn
#

Unreal

forest token
#

ap3 and td4 exist, ri can't get higher than ri4

quiet acorn
#

With the worst shield aspect as well

forest token
#

idk how much ap3 is but probably like 4 heat idk

#

true

#

zeus shield sucks

quiet acorn
#

Can't even do 71 heat

nocturne stag
#

There's only so many total benefits to be added to each enemy, eventually you get enough hard labor that you die if you're hit, and you can't really heal less than 100% less healing

forest token
#

yeah lmao

#

uc and mm can't be upgraded at all either

quiet acorn
#

Td-1 u get healed for going overtime

forest token
#

hl10 means that a dad swing is basically a pot lmao

#

and pots do 300 now!

quiet acorn
#

Pots scale with hl?

forest token
#

hs2

nocturne stag
#

I mean you could make new mini boss buffs for mm but that'd be weird

quiet acorn
#

Ohk

forest token
#

we were just discussing this in speedcord high heat how doable beo would be

#

and it's like

#

not bad as long as you get c1 or non-cringe room c2 cshot

#

and the typical anyheat build

#

with mirage before lernie

sinful zodiac
#

the unmodded classic