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If you are using achilles you want flurry jab hammer then artemis/zeus attack
Usually with hammers I go for the one that replaces the spin attack with the flurry of strikes
Thats flurry jab
Perfect
Should I try giving Zeus a nectar? I'm not sure what he'll give me but if it's like what ares and Poseidon gave then it might be worthwhile
All olympians except hermes have the same effect yeah
Oh ok
Having their keepsakes is great for builds
As it lets you start with the god you want
Usually I start with Poseidon or chaos keepsake and after killing a fury I swap to lucky tooth
Poseidon is a good start on spear, the dash is what you’re looking for, Chaos’ keepsake is very situational, should never start with that as it’s rarely ever worth it
If you’re confident in Asphodel you can take another Olympian god’s keepsake there, as opposed to a defensive one, but the Tooth is fine
I'm not quite confident in asphodel yet, the bone snakes that pop out of the ground mess me up
You’ll get there with practice, remember that dashes give iframes until you dash strike, then all your iframes are gone and you become vulnerable
It’s a very good thing to be aware of when you’re trying to dodge stuff, especially bosses
Also I seem to have found most of the Olympians but I'm missing ||Demeter|| and Hephaestus, without spoilers do those become available later or do they just not give boons
Oh ok cool
Good to know
You should spoiler ||Demeter|| in this channel
||She has boons, you encounter her later, after you progress a little bit more||
Hepha doesnt appear
Yea he’s not in the game
Oh ok
Also yeah spoiler mark about ||Dem||
Really? I just figured it out because I know some Greek mythology and I noticed she was missing
Check channel description for why is that way
Oh ok
Also is it just me or do Dionysus and Aphrodite suck
They feel super underwhelming
Depends on the weapon
They can always give you something decent
Like Dionysus can give you his Call which is amazing
Idk if it's just how I play but by comparison all the other Gods feel way better
I don't think I've ever actually gotten Dionysus' call
I like both gods casts on achilles
Wont choose over phalanx/slicing depending on the attack tho
It’ll take time to see the good things that every god can offer to your build
Also do the renovations to the house of hades do much
So far they seem like a bit of a waste outside of that one prophecy
Some of them are purely cosmetics
Some others progress storylines and some offer subtle upgrades that will add up eventually, they can help a lot
Ok thanks
Last thing, is there any other way early on to get titan blood?
Other than killing a fury with a new weapon?
Beating Furies + Final boss with different weapons, Prophecies, trading resources at the Broker
Spoiler, main source of Titan Blood: ||Bounties are gonna be a big portion of your Titan Blood income but you only unlock them after you beat the game once||
Like how much left do you have?
Hi
No I mean is it a huge deal to click that tag
Oh it’s not really no
It’s not a lot of info
Ok thanks
Indeed
Oh okay so I'm good then
Depends on your goals with the game etc but yea it takes a lot of time and practice to master weapons/speedrun etc
But it’s easy to get into, and you’ll probably keep seeing progress to a certain extent so that’s a good thing
👀
Thank you, I appreciate the honest advice. I love the plot of the game and the graphics on it, so I want to keep trying to get good
Hi
Hiiii
Same 🤣
Nice
Tough now i have frame drop
And steam cloud is bug cuz i have datta cloud that been sitting here for year
And now i cant use steam cloud on hade .-.
Buttttt outside then that ye game good
For the frame drop i assume its just my amd app that cause sum trouble
You can always ask and watch experienced players (maybe later because now it could have lots of spoilers) but you’ll get there
Also im kinda bad too i cant complet the game whitout the god mode
You could check #h1-tech-fixes I think there are some things to improve performance, you can also ask for further help in #h1-tech-support
Wait there are different modes?
In the option
Like this mode say its good if you want focus on story
But if you want a real game make a new one whitout this mode
That’s fine, it was made to give you an easier time, eventually you can turn it off if you feel confident enough
Oooh mhmm I love story but I also love action
Well on the file even if it turn off its say that i have it on
Meh i just make a new one anyway
All i do is take the sword and spam click
And dash like super sonic
Sword is a rough starter weapon
But a lot of people come across the Cursed Slash hammer and end up winning anyway
Sword is fun to play
I remember a combo where i was having like 3atk speed whit shock weave and atk return stuff
Was so funny xd
Basically return all the atk litterrally whit insane atk speed
And shock weave
Or like the time when i have a build
I have like 10hp hit myself todo more dmg
But heal x amout i deal
So basically cant die
I kinda forgot
The early game is kinda scripted until x% of the game
So for a good player it nit that good cuz he get punish for being too good
not really
sword is actually a very good noob-friendly weapon imo, i got my first wins with it without ever bothering with internet or builds in general. and im very bad in action/controller games. that should speak for itself. in comparison to that, i had a much harder time adjusting to all the other weapon gameplay styles. and some of them still seem off. sword is by far the easiest for new players, as it feels fine from the get-a-go. you know what you are doing. it never felt random or anything. it was the right decision to have it as a starter weapon.
you forgot ||apollo 😔 ||
||he doesn't appear ingame but he's a pretty cool olympian||
did not mean to ping sorry about that
This game dont really have build
Between rng and all the stuff i think it unlikely you get what you want
There is a lot of builds tho 
Unless you want spend 4min killing 1 ennemy
||heat|| is spoiler in this channel
pat pat
yes it does. once you get all the god keepsakes and ||rerolls|| you can pretty easily get the exact boons you want every run
yeah with keepsakes and rerolls it isnt very hard getting 2 specific core boons, 1 or 2 t2s and a duo
What weapon has very mobile aspects
all shields, achilles spear
Achiles spear is probably the most zoom
also rated most likely you give you tendonitis 
Hm okay
Is spear good
I don’t use it often
at least for me, I don't really like spear. But Achilles spear is pretty good once you get the hang of using it
With the spear, hammer upgrades are a Godsend imo. Also focusing heavy on boons that do additional damage helped a lot, so a lot of Artemis, Ares and Demeter did it for me without having to rely on my death defiance
What I'm having trouble with is the bow. I'm a DPS player in everything, so the bow play style is killing me
easiest bow is chiron
just put dio on special, preferably aphro on attack
privileged status can help make up for the relatively low DPS
the other bows are stronger and faster but you get the idea
Yeah that's what I was reading online, a lot of people saying Chiron was the better aspect. I don't have a lot of blood vials, but I'll start put what I do have into it
So update: Got to Hades with Chiron with a good amount of luck. Went through all three layers with little issue, so the Dio/Aphro combo definitely worked. Just had bad luck with Hades himself. He spawned those crystal enemies that created shields on everything, and he immediately stuck me twice with his special which basically auto-killed me in a 30 second period lol
i am just snowballing hera bow runs one after the other. its way too easy you just always get the cast from either aphrodite or dionysus and pom it to the death. dps is killer. even with a low ranked bow. whoever thinks that only chiron is busted is mistaken...
||i am currently shaking from hades himself. how many times does he rise again after being almost defeated and does anyone have any tips for him?||
he has two phases
Spoiler ||hades|| please 
Once if you dont use ||EM4||. ||Just memorize his attack patterns, he is the easiest to predict and very slow ||
||what's EM4?||
||A pact of punishment modifier||
Achilles is better in most contexts
Thanks
Hades spear is nice tho, just a bit tougher to play and the builds arent as versatile
Also I've bought both stubborn defiance or whatever it's called and death defiance (1 use so far), is it worthwhile to buy more uses of death defiance?
It seems like death defiance is for more confident players
It's the opposite actually
Stubborn Defiance is for more confident players
You should only be using Death Defiances for now
You can reset your mirror to buy more since you dont need SD now
Really? I would've thought that death defiance not replenishing would mean you have to be sure you aren't gonna die in a random chamber and can save the uses for bosses
Yup
That's an easier thing to do than have a very small hp against bosses
With enough practice and experience you shouldnt die to either of them but early on most people tend to lose multiple Death Defiances to bosses
So SD wouldnt help with that
And enemies in normal encounters aren't that difficult and you see them a lot more often than bosses at this point so you get more practice against them, if you die a lot in normal rooms then you should be more aware of your movement and try to focus more on enemy patterns
Also having a good build with nice damage helps, shredding through rooms is very achievable, however shredding through bosses is not, for newer players
Is there any advantage to giving nectar after the first time?
Progressing the Story
When a Double Boon event occurs always spurn Aphrodite or Ares when given the opportunity.
Why you may ask?
Because it’s funny
Also I’m not overly fond of their boons as a whole
And I personally dislike them both
Never turn Dionysus down tho
all gods have their uses. thats what i love in the game, there is basically no useless god.
True
is it ok that i just spend all my gemstones on cthonic keys
i installed the fountains alr
every resource is infinite and farmable
everything else seems cosmetic or not worth
but keys arent too useful after early game
||he'll show up around the house sometimes, you can give it to him then||
didnt give me the option to
only let me talk
maybe i didnt stand in the right place
You can gift him before talking to him
yeah maybe i didnt stand in the right place
I think hades spear is among the worst aspects in the game
Really? Why?
it's incompatible with flurry jab which is the strongest spear attack hammer you can pick up
also it's a damage debuff that only applies to enemies but rather than a damage buff that applies to you
so achilles outclasses it
and the debuff doesn't even apply to spin attack for some bizarre reason
So upgrade Achilles instead of unlocking hades then
yeah I think so
I'm not the biggest fan of achilles but it's undeniably among the better aspects
plus it's really strong even at lvl1
I don't really know how to spend my titan blood all I know is that spear is my favorite weapon so I want to upgrade it as much as I can
well in my opinion there are two good spears, achilles and hidden aspect
zag spear is legitimately awful imo
Guys what should i do with ambrosia
Who i should give it to?
so don't bother
That's fair, but I think I'll leave that to after I escape once since apparently after that I get access to more blood
oh yeah nvm then
I thought zag spear wasn't that bad
if u didnt escape once, dont focus on stuff like this
Achilles is better
if you haven't escaped the best weapon is the shield
just focus on getting that first clear
cheeses victories
That's not really true
Really? I kind of hated using the shield
I prefer using the spear's long range to fight from a distance
you can just eat almost every attack in final boss without dodging
Hades spear can use exploding launcher which makes the special actuqlly good 
All of the spears are atleast solid but they are hammer reliant
spoiler free version is that final boss has attacks that you have to deal with if you aren't hit by them
but shield has a way of deleting them right away
When characters get to their locked heart you can do their favor to unlock it and gift them Ambrosia to fill the heart, might take a bit to get there
"spoilers from end boss and onwards"
Thats still spoilers 

i mean
You should also delete/spoiler the couple of messages above that
k
I don't mind knowing that, I just don't want to know who the final boss is, though I have my suspicions
just play what u like for ur first clear
dw too much about whats good or not
just have a good build for that weapon u like
it's actually a random roman god
Ok, so what build would you recommend for Achilles spear? I know the spear wants the flurry hammer
Other than that I think it was like Zeus and Artemis?
uh i suck at the game + dont know any builds thats not hidden shield zeus shield hera bow or hestia rail so 
ig i know some sword but uh
i dont mess with spear
a basic achilles build would be something like artemis attack
and athena dash of course
aiming for flurry jab above everything else
What does Artemis attack do again? Has a chance to crit?
smth
artemis is good on achilles because achilles provides a massive attack damage boost
and artemis has most of her dps increase in crit chance which has multiplicative synergy with other damage buffs
wait
._>
there was some spoilers in that website
@waxen niche
forgot about that mb ._.
just screenshot the achilles section lol
bro the one section where it mentions final boss-
Lol
I haven't read it
@calm imp could I get that site again please? I think I'll check it out and risk potential boss spoilers
I can screenshot the achilles portion
Oh that would be great, thank you
do u want the whole site? or just that portion
oh yeah nvm randy u got htis
also
||Demeter|| is a spoiler 
wait nvm thats
speedrunning
bro nah its impossible to give guides without spoilers just do ur first run lmao
smh isn't non speedrunning just speedrunning except divine over tidal dash
I think I'll just go with Zeus or Artemis attack
artemis will be safer pick but zeus works too
I don't have the Artemis charm yet so I have to get that one
artemis is a little less reliant on flurry jab
Once I get it I could swap to that
yep you'll learn that keepsakes are op
there's a reason fated persuasion >> authority
I don't know what either of those are 😅
Last mirror skill
Ohh
uh idk if spoiler lol
they're basically the two mirror aspects that help you manipulate rng
Persuasion rerolls boon choices/poms/etc authority re rolls doors rewards
wish authority was buffed
It has its niche uses
true but you feel so helpless at chaos
And it can get some good results in the right hands and if rng cooperates a bit
Eh
It's not that likely to get trolled by a chaos
Just take the curse that doesnt hurt you
Oh right that was another thing I wanted to ask, how good are chaos boons?
Dont bother with the buff
Chaos is nice, usually worth taking, especially if you can scale through 2 or more of their buffs
You get used to the curses
They're not that bad
but don't take if health loss is gonna kill you
imo if things are going bad they're not gonna save you, if things are going well they help you snowball
Usually I'll take it early on in Tartarus where I'm more comfortable
In Asphodel and Elysium I ignore it
Maybe, as of right now I need to learn how to not get destroyed by the minotaur
Damn really?
if you press attack and hold in his direction you're basically invincible
hence why I think shield is by far the best beginner weapon
You're pretty safe but nowhere near invincible
put doom or something on attack and just bull rush after they attack
Also real quick does gun suck? Because it kind of seemed like gun was pretty bad
it has the highest skill floor imo
and the two non hidden aspects are the real meat of gun
I mean all of the weapons have high skill floors
Eris is very easy to play
Hestia is a bit harder but it's still quite easy compared to some other options
If you want a hard weapon play Sword
That one is actually tough
Gun is awesome though
If you get a good special boost from chaos and/or the right hammer rolls you can delete everyone
Plus stacking lightning on the +ammo aspect is funni
for gun turn off aim at cursor and focus on the special
for bow only use dash strikes, don't bother with the special or anything else
The gun takes a bit of getting used to, but using that was probably the most fun I've had so far in the game tbh
If you get any of the hammers for the gun’s specials it’s pretty easy. Things get trickier if you have to rely on the primary attack
Really? When I used bow I found myself relying on special a lot in close quarters
For Base Bow and Hera the Special is pretty much only used as a tool to break projectile or as a placeholder to open up Duo boons
In terms of damage however it's trash, you shouldnt need it
It just locks you in place
It’s just really weak. Dash strike does up to 40 base damage and it pierces so it can be applied to multiple targets.
Spread shot does only 10 base damage per arrow
And it doesn’t pierce.
Without a hammer anyway
i accidently posted in the wrong channel by mistake sorry
although from what I understand charged volley is really strong
never used it before so idk
yeah charged volley is pretty good
but it's still worse than twin/triple/pointblank/perfect
hestia 
Is there any way to guarantee or at least increase odds for a boon of Artemis to spawn?
I need to give her nectar for her trinket
well if you find an artemis boon more will show up in the run
Is there another Olympian who boosts odds for Artemis
once you get boons from 4 different gods only those will spawn (not counting hermes-chaos and some exceptions allowing you to have more gods)
so if you already encountered 4 you cant find artemis in that run
If you avoid other gods as much as possible you'll maintain a 1/8 chance of seeing the one you want, I think
shop
Does swift strike affect the bows charge time?
pretty sure it wont
One more question with smouldering air can i still generate my god gauge by attacking and getting hit?
yep
Niice
distributed blood in all weapons so i can get all the hidden aspects faster. feels bad though as this means i have no good aspect maxed out this way. will take time 🙈 at least i got the gilgamesh pretty fast this way. fists are pretty difficult in this game, i only liked demeter aspect so far.
Hoe am I supposed to use the weapons
Cause I see people saying the fists are strong
But I literally can't even beat the first boss unless I use the blade
bosses are a matter of learning the timing to dash through all of their attacks. thats the priority. how much damage you do/how fast the boss goes down is kinda secondary, as the dodge mechanic is your best friend in this game. once you can dodge enough, you can kill them with any weapon, but i admit that the fists are not the easiest thing for 3rd/4th boss. i like going for a dodge build with them (plume) but im sure there are many other viable strategies too. some weapons are more build dependent than others as well.
Also just play style differences
You are probably more comfortable with how sword plays
So I finally beat the third boss last night but then immediately got annihilated by rats, how do people deal with the whole poison effect?
Like is there a skill that can help with that
Or is the solution just don't get hit
You can see the satys prepare for the dart throw or i think they have a sound cue too
If poisoned you either kill everything quick or go to the curing pools
a trinket exists that helps a little, some people use it, i haven't tried it yet, but basically the solution is either to not get hit at all, aka dodge-dash or kill them faster. you can cure in each room but you need to be fast.
If you cant see the pool, pause the game to check it in calm then can go asap to it
hopefully you are not buffing the fist attack with percentage based boon but with a dot or lightning.
Might have been idk
one of the most important things in the game is to realize early that slow weapons/attacks need percentage based boons, while fast weapons need to rely on flat damage like zeus or a dot from Ares or Dionysus. fists will not work well with percentage based attack unless you somehow increase their base damage by a hell lot (i hardly remember what hammers exist for that). But you get the drift.
There is heavy knuckle that changes the combo to a slow 3 hit with 45 base dmg
But unless you get it early not worth building with it in mind
Zeus attack then pick up static discharge is fairly common
If then you get call and aphro Core boon (Special-dash-cast) you can get smoldering air duo boon
I also assume its based on what strategy u go with
So how r u supposed to play with the fists
Like what's the plan
Damn I Wass gonna kick them
There is hammer for that
Bruhh
I normally just do the combo and dash strike after it finishes
That way you can keep stun locking enemies without armor
Is there a guide somewhere on how to use the mirror for beginners? Like what to invest in, which skills to equip, etc
Investing my darkness properly is one of the things I've been struggling with recently
By Mike, mirror guide
Thank you!
Oh hold on I just had an idea, does the triple spear thing (where your attack turns into 3 attacks) stack with the flurry hammer
just read it that guide is solid. 😮 very nice . the only part i would expand a little upon, is that once your trove upgrades are maxed, you can get a solid big amount of healing with the dark regeneration skill or if you manage to get a run with a bonus of % dark energy from either poseidon or chaos boons. can make some runs amazing for farming huge amounts. Also the fact that wells, sisiphus, shops and few other sources can also grant dark energy, makes it a little more debatable then at first look. so I'm still not bought on that one although indeed cthonic vitality is more consistent. (although still a very low source of healing to make big difference)
Dark regeneration is also useless in the 4th biome so i never liked it
And once you pick DF you see way less darkness
troves drop 150 when it happens though. this is almost a full healing in most cases. can help tough runs or bad early starts. depends.
Just buy food or check charon wells, also if you are that low health to need a big heal you can probably lost a dd in the trove itself
Yeah but by the 4th biome you should have all the boons you need, any extras being gravy. I recently switched to dark foresight and it makes the game so much easier. Before that I was on the 3rd biome before completing my build (attack spec dash etc)
we were talking about dark regeneration though, not dark foresight. dark foresight is indeed easily the best but its a different mirror upgrade.
Dark Regeneration is very underwhelming
how do i reveal the aspect of zues?
Unlock all weapons then do another run to reveal aspects
ik, but how do i unlock aspect of zues?
Use titan blood
oh i thought that padlock meant you cant upgrade it
Need to click the lock btw, trying to select the shield itself wont do anything
alr
they're the worst overall weapon
yeah
the blade is a close second imo
How is the shield meant to be used?
I think that's the only weapon I haven't beaten a fury with yet, but it's also the weapon that I've been doing the worst with
block, bull rush, and then smack them in the face a bit i think
||i don't find a lot of success using shield unless i'm using the beowulf aspect, but not everyone has reached that far in the game||
but i do know that blocking with the shield is very important and something some people overlook when playing shield
How do you block?
hold attack
Isn't that charging bull rush
well it also blocks
Ohh
yeah, you can block pretty much anything with it
granted you can't block immediately since you have to attack first, but it's still a very good thing to use
Spoiler mark plz
also, not entirely sure about this, but i think when you bull rush, you're also somewhat invincible? or at least a lot less susceptible to damage anyways
dash strike while holding attack to block and charge is usually better then just attacking and then rushing
ah oops
its stressful to play
#h1-story-discussion pins
yes, while bull rushing you can't take damage
dont have to reach credits. only reach last boss
Oh oops
you need to have spent 5 points (titan bloods) in each weapon class to be eligible for the hidden aspects, but the points need to be distributed in non-zagreus aspects. then you can find the unlocks via dialogues in the game.
3rd or 4th day playing and I've gotten to ||Hades, but only the first seconds of the second phase.|| It's mostly because I waste my revives on Theseus and Asterius as they really just kill my whole run. Any advice on how to beat them with using 1 or less revives? ||Tips for Hades would also be greatly appreciated
|| (I mainly use the Eternal Spear)
for theseus and asterius what helped me the most is keeping in mind two things
theseus’s ranged attack is annoying af, so use the columns to avoid them as much as possible
and for asterius, space him out, keep ur range
focus asterius first, but dont get impatient
even after u get asterius down take ur time, theseus’s shield is annoying and can get u killed if u try to rush him down
ty!! will keep that in mind
🙏 gl mate
being between a pillar will also help for asterius when he starts charging to you
if you have any call you can use its iframes to dodge it too
or just learn to bait him to a wall/pillar/other guy
i do use the pillar, it's just like, I think he hit the pillar but then he continues to charge at me
happens if you dash too early mostly
it's a real pain to time it then 💀
like i said having any call can save you there too
Are all the calls good?
most r
some
idk too well
zeus posi athena r good
im forgetting one here
wait is any of the gods i said spoilers
i dont thinj so
nah
most of them yeah
how does the god gauge work?
is it just waiting or do you have to kill a certain amount of enemies
I think it increases if you deal damage but don't quote me on that
"I think it increases if you deal damage but don't quote me on that" - My guy, 2022
Hitting enemies/getting hit increase call
Wouldnt call it broken but is fairly strong for dps
(There is also quick favor [hermes] and smoldering air [zeus-aphro duo boon] that charge automatically)
Is there a call tier list somewhere? I usually just take whatever but it would be nice to know what's better
What do i do with titan blood
Unlock all weapons, then do another run
That unlocks aspexts which you can use titam blood
artemis call is pretty bad
weakest one in my opinion
usually zeus/poseidon r my go to's
the rest of the calls i usually dont bother unless its better then the 2 other options
or unless ur build is complete and ur just getting extras, which r what calls usually r
dio call is also excellent
it can be worth taking any call just to fill slot though, slightly improves pool for everything else
unless call opens up a lot of boons you don't want like ares and his blade rifts
well yeah, but thats usually only when the other 2 choices r cheeks
ares doesnt have a call 
also theres a bug where my character is forced into walking in one direction, and i have to dc in order to stop the bug, which kills my run
is any1 familiar with this ._.
||i lost a good 32 heat sword like 10 mins ago bc of this||
checked #h1-tech-support ?
legit had broken boons
lol yeah it's awful
also spoiler mark ||heat||
I used to take it to fill the slot but realized it's even worse than the other junk he offers
you're right, I prefer arty over ares call
id prefer anything over ares call
arty call at least nice for iframes
bc it opens way too much boons
ares also but it takes away your weapon 
I guess it gives you more than average iframes since it's 5 charge
imagine losing your attacks in exchange for like 1k damage
lol
#h1-discussion ._.
cant call it really bad, had some final boss kills with it where it dealed 40-50% of total boss life damage, even on the 2nd phase.
that's the main problem with it
it's only good at full charge and completely worthless otherwise
which gives it negative synergy with billowing strength and second wind
Wait what's so bad about blade rifts?
I used them as my dash before and they didn't seem that awful
I think it's not so much that they're terrible on their own as it is the other dashes are all much better
Blade dash is fine
Call is bad dmg, needs to be on the enemy/leaves you vulnerable to an enemy when it ends
what’s the “extreme measures condition”?
makes bosses different/harder. pact of punishment.
||em1 isnt too hard to get used to, em2 might take a couple or so runs, em3 is nasty but needed for higher heat runs, and em4 oh nah dont touch that||
yep I was referring to ares call
why haven't I seen ares yet in 21 runs
Rng gotta rng
quick question, is there any way to undo upgrading your weapons with titan blood, just asking before i do it
If you are still on the courtyard/mid run but havent died you can press give up
That will reset your save file before you upgraded it
just dont upgrade the bad ones, lol
Which are the best hammers to rail
What aspect of the Rail? Or just base rail?
You should spoiler ||Lucifer|| in this channel
Sorry
i have huge difficulty accepting the rail as a weapon for this game setting. just meh. i refuse to accept its existence. it breaks the immersion for me. i just ignore it.
tis just a game

Zues isn't a frisky harassing bastard in this game like in the myths
Definitely doesn't break anyone's immersion
hestia objectively subjectively best aspect 
100% trust me no biased here
the lore for it which allows it to fit is that humans modeled all of their weapons off of the infernal arms, but hadnt gotten a hold of the rail so hadnt yet designed guns
it still works
||Hey how many titan bloods can i get in total by using different weapons, before beating hades for the first time?||
6 titan blood before final boss
Ah ok thanks
you accept throwing a shield like a boomerang and your spear standing still in midair but not something that we know scientifically how it works?
i'm pretty sure they had a pretty good reasoning for why the rail is in the game too
looking at the wiki, the reasoning is in the codex entry
although if you dont use rail a lot you'd have to play some runs with rail before you can get the full entry i believe
hestia made a gun, decided it was too op and sent it to hell i think
well, you could trade all of your diamonds and ambrosia for titan blood if you really wanted to
Lol if you wanna get technical there’s other ways to get an infinite supply without beating the final boss but it’s unrealistic.
I feel like there’s a dev response specifically to why they included the rail gun into the game but I’m having a hard time finding it
^
wait that was a long ass time ago 💀
Is there a way to restart a room?
I fpegot to pause and took abounch of damage on lost 3 death defiances in tarterus
I'd just give it the good ol' college try ||and hope you come across the dude that refills your death defiance later on||
i have 33 escape tries and i always die on the ||second phase|| of the final boss can i get some advice or some builds that are begginer friendly or smth?
first of all, spoiler ||second phase||
when he does the laser beams, either hide behind a pillar or get up right next to him where there's a slight blind spot and whale away
any shield, put like ares on attack or whatever
when he's attacking you hold down to block, when he stops attacking release and bull rush through him
i dont think the laser is the problem
i jsut get hit once a while
and i end up dying
are you taking hits while boiling?
boiling?
sometimes
one of the main priorities is not taking damage during this time
run and hide behind the pillars if you must
I assume you're also taking damage when the ||skull casts explode||
yeah
so one huge advantage of the shield is that if you're blocking, ||skull casts|| are completely absorbed by the shield
so they don't fall on the ground and ||explode||
oh thats cool ill try out the shield
shoould i go for melee attacks or the special attack?
I believe melee is best, ares is the safest option because he lets you attack infrequently
so you can just hold down the block and strike whenever it's completely safe
also i have problems choosing the right items i never know which one si the best
what shoould i go for
items as in boons?
I see
I would recommend starting with the god you want
if you wanna try the ares hit and run build you'd start with the bloodfilled vial
anytime, best of luck
am i the only one whos just chaotic and lets rng tip the scales without bothering with olympian keepsakes
okay just tried doing this build, but i still died i struggled with the green vases and i didnt really do any dmg to him with the ares attack
if you have a dash that does damage, you can dash (maybe double dash? don't remember) through the pots to activate them but not get hit by it
spend a bit of time knocking them down before getting back into the fight, obviously avoid getting hit in the process
probably lol, each weapon has a set of boons that are good with one another, and various duo boons as well that would help a lot
using keepsakes can help get duo boons and just get the boon you want
Do God trinkets only affect your Tartarus boons
Or will they change the next boon in every biome
they're only active once and while equipped
while active they guarantee for that specific biome that any choice of chambers with a non hermes boon will have that god
aka if you have a god keepsake and you skip them they'll show up again if a god room is still available
yes, the first time you switch to them they'll take effect
so you can force a god all four floors if you want
Got it, thanks
however they must be different gods, if you keep a keepsake equipped it won't force the god again
nope, after unequipping a keepsake it's locked out for that run
Gotcha
is lucky tooth a good keepsake it pretty much gives me an extra life
early on it's good, it quickly gets replaced by better keepsakes
aka god, stronger defensive, and op utility keepsakes
it regains some strength at high heat vs ||EM4|| I believe
what are your favorite keepsakes
right now I use god keepsakes, broken spearpoint, coin purse, evergreen acorn, ||sigil of the dead||, ||pom blossom||, and bone hourglass most of the time
ok thank you
what weapons should i use
whatever you want
ok i'm good with the spear and sword and horrible with bow
then use those two
all the weapons work fine if youre used to them and different players just have different preferences anyways
just try them all out
okie dokie
Is there a way to ensure what god buff will appear at the start of every run?
Also I was watching a vid and I saw ||2 extra weapons. Felt like a spoil. Also saw sm1 using the bow and firing multiple shots in a straight line. Is that a buff||?
The keepsake of each olympian guarantees the first boon you see is from that god/about the bow thats probably one of the aspects which you need to unlock all weapons first
someone correct me if im wrong because i dont want to ruin the player experience, but i dont think those are really spoils
||answer to that last question is a hammer upgrade tho||
no, i dont believe they are
cool that's what i thought
Hammer upgrade?
i dont exactly know how to explain this but it changes the weapon itself for the run, usually makes you play the weapon a little bit differently to utilize the buff
kind of like a buff
it'll make sense once you get your first one
i think he means daedalus hammer
yea i had to search how to spell it
Ye the thought just came to my mind and I rushed to the channel
Btw any1 know to answer the god boons quetsion?
wdym
^
@smoky mauve
the stuff before the / explains it
not sure what you're trying to say, but it's probably no
i think
at the start of every run/biome, you can equip a keepsake, which you get by giving various gods/characters nectar
it guarantees the next boon you collect to be from that god if it's a god keepsake
give nectar to the olympian once, equip the keepsakes by them, and then thatll be the boon
if you give nectar to a god in the middle of a run, you just advance your relationship with them. if it's your first time seeing them, you get their keepsake, but every nectar after that just increases your relationship level with them
So the 1st time I give nectar to a god I get their keepsake that lets me get their boon at the start of every run and after that I'll only be advancing my relationship with them?
yes
for example, if i give athena a nectar, she'll give me her keepsake which i can use on later runs at the start to guarantee seeing athena at the very start
That's the only thing that their keepsakes do right? It only guarantees that u will get their boons once at the start and nothing else. Correct?
well, they level up the more you use them, so eventually it'll have a chance for you to see higher rarity boons from that god, but no one really keeps that in mind after the first room
but yeah, it's very helpful at the start of each run to guarantee seeing a god
I started playing today so I only hav Cerberus's collar rn. Didn't even know it was a keepsake until I watched a vid.
Got it
So if I upgrade it it'll be easier to get their call?
every weapon has a certain few gods that are preferable to see in the run
well no, when you upgrade your keepsake i believe it just increases rarity chances
so you have like a 10% higher chance of getting a rare boon instead of a common boon or something
Is it random whether I'll get the call option as a choice from a boon or not then?
it's fairly random i think
might have a higher chance of seeing it because it's one of the core boons but i'm not entirely sure on that
core boons meaning attack, special, cast, dash, and (maybe) call
So u r not completely sur if getting a call as an option is random or not and also If there's a way to gurantee if u will get a call as an option?
yeah i'm not entirely sure if it's random or not, but i'm fairly certain it is
i do know that you can't get the call in the very first room tho so there's that
I did get it in the first room tho once.
but there is no way to guarantee getting a call, it just sort of appears
oh well then nvm lol i thought someone here said that you can't get it in the very first room
It might hav been bc of tutorial reasons or smth. Or they were just wrong and u can indeed get a call in the 1st room
could be tutorial reasons
Yep bc it was Poseidon who gave mey 1st call and I think he mentioned smth Abt the call like "I'll help u kill ur enemies" or smth not sur tho
U can have only one keepsake equipped right?
yes, you can only use one at a time
Is the Cerberus collar any good?
situational i think, but generally not
yeah the extra hp is nice, but there are other keepsakes that'll give you more overall hp indirectly
call is not a core boon
you can only get a call on the first boon by rerolling, the reason you got one to start is it's a one time scripted event
wait its not 
nope
i thought the core boons were the ones on the side bar
if you fill all left slots but call you don't have 90% chance of seeing the call
it'll show up at the same rate as any other eligible standard boon
Rerolling?
via the final green mirror perk, fated persuasion
send through link, either through discord or imgur
easier option imo is discord, just make a private server, send it, right click, and hit copy link
then paste it in here
Uh can I dm it to u rq?
i mean you can just send it in here using the methods i described
Purple is a different god
thing on the left means its a miniboss, and the boon you get from there has upgraded rarity
Any chance it'll be a call? Or is it completely random it will be a call or not?
i mean its just random yeah lol
Is there smth like a double dash in the game or smth?
Yeah there are ways to get multiple dashes.
And how do u get a double dash?
Mirror updates and Hermes
I can hav a double dash active while I also have the dash deflection buff right?
Yes
Uh is there a way to choose which weapon will be holding the buff that gives u more of mirror of night currency(forgot what it's called)?
It's random
Just unlucky
Some hammers are incompatible with it
So if you're not seeing on your second hammer it might be that
Also It's incompatible with the 4th aspect of the Rail
Rocket /Cluster /Triple all remove Hazard from the second hammer pool
like other upgrades that i took before hand?
ah
thanks alot

Is it a bad idea to spend my keys on weapons? Should I focus on talents?
nah it's good to spend on weapons, weapons take a lot less to unlock and once you have all of them you can unlock their aspects, focus on the mirror afterwards, some of the later portions are a lot of keys (20+)
eventually you will have more keys than you need, so its not a bad idea to spend them on anything
True
What r weapon aspects? Do I need to use the weapons to unlock them?
You need to unlock all base weapons using keys to unlock them
They are variations of the weapons
That you can upgrade
call is a core boon, but it's not a priority boon
core means you can only get one (the ones on the sidebar) priority means the game really wants to give you it
How many times do i give a character nectar to get their keepsake
1
Like the one with the yellow lock at the bottom
You need to get to their Locked hear and gift them 1 Ambrosia afterwards
You unlock the locked heart by completing their favor
How do i do the favor
purple is a boon from dionysus, the god of wine, and the trident is shining because it's a harder level, but you'll get an overall better boon from it if you beat it
guys i need help i just found out about codex and i cant find achilles in the palace
what do i do
Just do a run
It's rng
When you come back to the house he could be there next time
okay thanks
No it's random. He'll come back eventually
ok thanks
To upgrade a weapon’s Aspects, you must first equip that weapon in the room occupied by Skelly the training dummy. Grab the desired weapon from its pedestal, and then inspect the pedestal to make your enhancement
**and then inspect the pedestal **
how do i inspect this
||I finally made it to the final boss and just wanted to know if he had multiple health bars or just the one||
multiple
thats so hard
Have you unlocked all base weapons using keys
yep
Have you done a run afterwards to refresh the house seed
nope
Do that then
on my way
Then you should be able to interact with them
do i press a key?
The same key you use to interact with boons, there should be Titan Blood around the weapon holsters and Skelly should mention it
It shouldn't be
You just gotta have the Rail and you do a run afterwards to refresh the seed, the run should end with Zag dying, the Give up option does not count
ohhhhhh okay i gave up
Giving up keeps the same seed, as if the run never happened
thank you so much
Am I supposed to use every keepsake I get to level them up? Tbh the Cerberus collar is pretty comfortable giving u extra health
Well there’s an achievement for it, but it’s up to you, some keepsakes are pretty bad overall and don’t get much usage, I got back and levelled mine up after like 90-100 attempts I think
one thing you can do to level them up decently is to do your standard three keepsake start
then in styx take the keepsake you wanna level up and go through all styx chambers
that's how I got all the dumpster keepsakes like distant memory maxed out without throwing runs
Is distant memory all that bad? It seems like it could maybe have a use on bow or gun builds no?
Nope
You’ll barely proc it at all with the way the game is meant to be played
well it's probably better than like feather duster
but still bottom of the barrel imo
Even the gun and bow they still play quite close to the enemies
And you also have no clue whether it’s working because no indication
It’s just not worth the effort
mike what's your vote for worst keepsake?
Maybe feather duster
all the god keepsakes, leveling them up won't really change much of anything, but the keepsakes you get from other characters like cerberus or skelly, you should level those up if you want to use them
I didn't understand the method
you can change your keepsake before each biome
before you enter styx, pick up a keepsake that you want to level up and go through every styx chamber
there's 5 pathways and each pathway has like 3 or 4 rooms or so
What's a Styx chamber?
have you reached styx before?
Not sur. Is it after hydra?
no
You still got a bit to get there
Then ig I hav? Haven't killed hydra. Hav reached to her once
It goes Tartarus Asphodel Elysium Styx
it's tartarus (fury sisters), asphodel (hydra), elysium (bull and theseus), then styx
I don't mean for this to sound mean, but you should probably actually play the game and discover some of your questions for yourself. We're basically doing it for you at this point. The majority of questions get answered by just playing the game.
honestly, don't worry too much about leveling up keepsakes. if you see one that has a mechanic you want to use, just pick it up and use it
Sm1 mentioned a method of leveling up keepsakes that I didn't understand so I asked. I think that even if I play I wouldn't understand the method fully by myself
I can only use titan blood on weapon aspects right?
Ye
you can trade it for stuff in the shop but not recommended to do that
Yea since you’re gonna need a lot of it
What r the ways of obtaining it? The only one ik of is meg
its grindable later on in the game
So I'll just figure it out by myself basically?
its obvious how u do it, its just i dont want to spoil
Oh kk ty
Is ||Hera|| in the game?
not as a character, but she is mentioned
I saw a youtuber use some character art works from this game to explain Greek myth and the one he used for Hera and Apollo had art style looked similar to the game's
well that a bummer
fan art?
yeah
the only apollo thing is this icon which was found in the files so he probably was planned to be in the game then removed
Plot twist it was for a boon of Helios
im glad hes not in the game because that would be the third yellow one we have 
more god equals more fun if you ask me
Helios would be so cool
He could give us boons that inflict something like blinding light or a burn
I mean... there is this purple god that inflicts kinda a burn
more like a poison
Dionysus lame
Sorry I dont play on english idk the Gods on english
I mean yeah but after all its the same... Damage over time
what do i use my first nectar thing on
actually what does it even do
you can give it to various characters and gods
just walk up to them and you'll see directions to give them nectar
to give it to gods, you just walk up to their symbol in the middle of a run, everyone else you'll have to give in the lounge
does it matter who i give it too
not really, the first time you give nectar to someone, they'll give you something called a keepsake which is helpful
just give it to everyone that's available lol
no
eventually
well for casual playing the strength is about the same
All weapons are not created equally, but also it depends on your playstyle and just play what you enjoy
Does increasing support do anything outside of trinkets?
I feel like it does but I also don't want to waste resources if it doesn't
like giving nectar to people?
Ye
it progresses plot
I call them supports because fire emblem brain lol
eventually it will, but gameplay wise, doesn't change too much
important for story tho
Good to know
Also does ||persephone|| have a trinket?
Also is spoiler tagging enough or should I move this to another channel
first of all, ||eventually you can||
secondly, i think spoiler is fine but im still relatively new here
Oh sick, on my first time getting to them I couldn't give them nectar so I was unsure
just keep playing, and doing whatever and you'll see lol
Aight
a good chunk of this game is just f around and find out
||heat|| is a spoiler in this channel 
Oh sorry
to spend titan blood do i have to unlock all the weapons or just the first 4
all
hello
i just try to play without hellmode i was wondering why is no pact of punishment?
Beat the game once
your first run was with hell mode..?
ah so i need to beat the game once before i get the pact of punishment
yup
why
i want hard hahaha! and then its take me 84 run before i defeat hades
madlad
and then i defeated hades 3times
What happens if I purge a epic boon? Does it delete it outright or put it into rare?
Delete
You can get it offered again tho
As long as it’s not Hermes
Since you can only see him twice
So if you purge it twice it’s most likely gone
There is a 50% chance to see him in Styx for a third time
But that’s it
Other gods have no limits
Hey guys! Does stacking of bloodstones in one enemy gives you +150% (+50% per stone) damage? Thanks!
Nope
Just 50%
For the first one
Then lodging more casts doesn't give you more bonus
Got it, thanks!
What can you use keys for after you have unlocked all weapons and mirror perks?
Trading at the broker pretty much
Thanks, I don't think I have unlocked the Brooker yet, but then I will still go for them :)
Huh, in the restaurant, or the guy I buy upgrades with gems?
Restaurant
Oh, then I have not unlocked him yet. ||I have only beaten the game 4 times, how many times do I need to do it to unlock him?||
He's not there?
I might need to double check, but unless I have worse perception than I thought he has not arrived yet
I have been in that room multiple times at least recently and not noticed any change
Same 
I will check next time I play. I might just be blind
Is the resource used to re-roll like gold in that it can not be kept between runs?
Resources that you get from Gold Laurels are for the run only
Resources that you get from Blue Laurels are Permanent (meta) rewards
So Darkness Gemstones Nectar Keys are permanent
I might misunderstand the name of the resource, but that is the one I get the same time I get keys?
wdym
The stone thing I can use to re-roll boons or rooms
These are not permanent
They reset every run to 4 or 10 or whatever your mirror says
Every 4 or 10 room or run?
They reset every run, the amount you start with is based on how upgraded your mirror is
Ohh now I understand. Is that the upgrade which is at the bottom?
Nice, now that I know what upgrading it does, saving up to 2k seems worth it 🙂
It's a very good upgrade
Helps you get certain builds a lot more consistently
If you don't have Dark Foresight maxed out I would suggest finishing that one first tho
Because I think it's cheaper but it's arguably the strongest upgrade in the mirror
Huh, I should perhaps re-spec then? Since I have maxed out Olympian Favor



