h1-for-new-players

[gray haven]

Lady Athena would be better pick here.

[buoyant jay]

Hmm

To add another god to the pool?

[gray haven]

She's already in the pool.

[buoyant jay]

Oh

[gray haven]

Phalanx Shot is the build.

[buoyant jay]

I didn’t know he already got an Athena boon

[gray haven]

That means that you want Lightning Phalanx.

And poms on Cast.

[buoyant jay]

That makes sense

I didn’t know he had a cast yet

[lilac flicker]

infernal soul or stygian

what do i need to renovate for

dusa

[buoyant jay]

Lounge stuff

[lilac flicker]

all of them?

[buoyant jay]

Service, Deep Cleaning - to clean up the fur Cerberus left behind.
Service, Detailing - to repair the huge gouges Cerberus clawed in the walls and floor of the lounge.
Decorating - buy one rug and any ten additional lounge renovations.

In lounge section

Then you give dusa one ambrosia

[lilac flicker]

thanks

[gray haven]

All the Ambrosia.

[buoyant jay]

We’re talking about dusa, not meg

[lilac flicker]

specifically lounge stuff?

[gray haven]

Yes.

[buoyant jay]

https://tenor.com/view/megaera-hades-game-meg-hades-fury-gif-19153429

[lilac flicker]

OH

[buoyant jay]

Yes

In the lounge section

Other decorations don’t count

[gray haven]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-game-hades-dusa-cute-adorable-gif-19139329

[misty fractal]

Priest and Priestesses of any deity are just simps if you think about it

[lilac flicker]

where do you get these

[buoyant jay]

Discord gifs

Just type dusa and it’ll show up

[lilac flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/thanzag-thanatos-zagreus-hades-game-hades-gif-23878045

so funny

any help for zag fists?

[misty fractal]

Than is great 👀

[lilac flicker]

i almost won TT

[misty fractal]

Oof

[lilac flicker]

i never see him anymore

[misty fractal]

i can never offer him.anything anymore

for some reason

[buoyant jay]

Meg is the only one I maxed out

[misty fractal]

He always just leaves

[misty fractal]

Hmmmm for fists I like Merciless End

But I flip tjings around with Athena on Attack

and Ares on special

[buoyant jay]

Sometimes he does that without letting you give him nectar. It’s pretty lame

[lilac flicker]

merciful?

[misty fractal]

Cos fist deflect is pretty good cos its constant

Merciful End yea

[lilac flicker]

thanks how abt cast

and dash

[misty fractal]

uhhj I just never use cast

[lilac flicker]

what keepsakes do i bring

[misty fractal]

But Athena Dash

[lilac flicker]

cast is so good what

i never use special

[misty fractal]

I bring Athena + Ares for Asphodel and Tartarus

[lilac flicker]

how abt elysium

everyone says they bring acorn

[misty fractal]

Then Pom for Elysium

[lilac flicker]

pom?

[misty fractal]

But Acorns pretty nice too

[buoyant jay]

Um spoiler alert

[misty fractal]

uhhh maybe not Pom

uhhh take Acorn

Acorn is good

[lilac flicker]

for the ||hades||

[misty fractal]

Yes Pom for Elysium/final

[buoyant jay]

I don’t think he has it yet

[misty fractal]

Oh yea

Coin Bag is pretty nice

can always use more money

[buoyant jay]

That’s useful

I never used charons keepsake before that affects the well options

[misty fractal]

yea Charons seems good in Elysium

since you get a lotta value out of the rooms

But rooms in Styx are too short

[buoyant jay]

I might try it out

[leaden whale]

yea and then you can buy items before styx and switch to a different keepsake and keep the duration

[misty fractal]

👀

[buoyant jay]

Sounds like a good idea

[misty fractal]

smart

[buoyant jay]

I usually do better at thesus/Asterius these days so I probably can just put the acorn on in Styx and Charon in elysium

[misty fractal]

Idk i don really find time to stop attacking/special to use casts

and casts kind of need Pom investment

So I only really use it for the stuck damage boosts

[leaden whale]

yea acorn is good in styx as long as ads dont hit you too much

[misty fractal]

Styx poison is pretty annoying

[leaden whale]

boss man hits hard and can crit

[misty fractal]

some of those end rooms are

[buoyant jay]

I hear broken spear point is good for Styx poison but then I wouldn’t be able to bring the acorn soooo

[misty fractal]

ooh thats a good idea too

Styx I just hope to find the sack on 2nd room 😎

[buoyant jay]

I’ve thankfully not gotten 4 room or last room styx

But I’m sure it’ll happen eventually

[misty fractal]

The miniboss rat takes forever

[buoyant jay]

I avoided the mini boss rooms but apparently it’s more likely that you’ll get a sack if you go in those rooms?

Someone told me anyway

[misty fractal]

I havent heard of it but they prob know more than me

[buoyant jay]

Yeah they probably do

[polar finch]

it aint

miniboss rooms are just easier and faster if you know what youre doing

[lilac flicker]

yeah actually

[gray haven]

I suspect "faster" was just misunderstood.

[lilac flicker]

hm?

i hate the rat tho

[opaque spruce]

Which one yhe tiny vermin boss or rats in general

[lilac flicker]

there was this darker big rat

that i hate sm

[opaque spruce]

Ohhh

That boss

||I would go for it still since there's a quest that gives like 10 or 15 ambrosia for defeating every dire boss||

[lilac flicker]

is winnning by god mode

genuine?

or noo

[leaden whale]

wins are tracked seperatly between that and gm but yea its legit

[faint umbra]

Of course it is

[leaden whale]

godmode in this game is well done, it gives leniency to those who need it but doesnt trivialize the game

[faint umbra]

It gives you some damage reduction, but you still play the game

[fair warren]

Got aphro's call to like level 30 once but it's hard to call it a WR or anything

[gray haven]

Well, that sounds like something I have to beat.

[misty fractal]

legit imo

[grave storm]

the devs put it there so it's legit

[misty fractal]

I headcanon it as Zagreus trying his best 👀

[grave storm]

the name of the boon basically tells you it's plot armor lol

[vestal wind]

doesnt skelly mention god mode?

[misty fractal]

whats the buff name?

[vestal wind]

how do I get it

[misty fractal]

get what?

[leaden whale]

||Deus Ex Machina||

[vestal wind]

god mode

[leaden whale]

its in the menu

[uneven sun]

does hell mode only available at the fresh save file?

[vestal wind]

Really?

[leaden whale]

yes to both of u

[uneven sun]

ok

[edgy storm]

I beat the game, what should I do now??

[gray haven]

||Do it again||.

[edgy storm]

but thats just boring

its just the same thing right?

[gray haven]

Not quite.

[edgy storm]

oh

k

wait

||to give her the nectar||

[leaden whale]

when her boon shows up you can give it

you should spoiler ||Demeter|| bcz u have to reach final boss to unlock her

[gray haven]

Nicely done.

[leaden whale]

lol

[limber palm]

Hades also has a huge postgame

[edgy storm]

oh wow

[leaden whale]

you dont have to keep deleting your messages, just edit them and put "||spoiler||" around the parts that need it

[edgy storm]

k

[leaden whale]

that parts not a spoiler i just reply to that bcz it was close to the msg u deleted lol

nectar is fine

[edgy storm]

k

how do u get megs call?

[leaden whale]

max her friendship

[edgy storm]

how

oh with nectar

how many times can u use her call?

oh nvm

[leaden whale]

5 nectar talk to her a lot and you will see to give her ambrosia and to uograde the timrs you can call her yiu need ambroasia

[leaden whale]

hey guys how do i give hades my nectar?
i gave him one before || i completed the game, now it seems like im having a tough time trying to give him one, its for my last keepsake ||

[knotty rune]

its pretty much like everything else in the game

you have to finish more runs

if you ever dont know how to progress something, giving nectar and doing more runs almost always works out

[leaden whale]

i see gotcha

i prob need to see house of hades more im guessing

[lilac flicker]

does the 2 service upgrades from the lounge count for the 10 upgrades i have to buy?

[restive portal]

I don't think so. I think it's 10 more purchases once the lounge is cleaned.

[uneven sun]

I already have sisyphus's prophecy, what should I do to complete it? Talk to Nyx to make the contractor give me the thing for 4 diamonds or something?

[full valley]

hi guys! i wanted to know if their was a point to give more than 1 nectar to someone. I gave a second nectar to a god (dont remember which one) but nothing happend. Was it a mistake? I heard their was things you can unluck after giving X nectars to someone

[viscid notch]

No it was not a mistake, you need to gift multiple nectars to everyone to progress the story, you get their keepsake when you give them their first nectar, after that you dont get anything anymore
There are some NPCs that give you ||companions however, and you need a certain amount of Nectar + 1 Ambrosia to get that, Companions are useful and you want them eventually||

[crude palm]

Oh i thought somd people gave more keepsakes

[full valley]

ok thanks 🙂

[crude palm]

Well ||companions are good too||

[viscid notch]

Nope every NPC only has 1 keepsake

[crude palm]

I see

Also awhile ago i said i couldn't use the bow at all and someone recommended me to just dash and PowerShot

Its working

Very well

[viscid notch]

Yup it's the optimal playstyle

[leaden whale]

does charon has a companion?

[viscid notch]

No

[leaden whale]

Charon is just based

Maxed him out first, totally worth it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933022000258109492/933724046342909982/unknown.png i looked up a build and for that guy went extremlu good and for me literally no damage (aspect of chiron)

[viscid notch]

I would suggest you reset your mirror

[leaden whale]

why?

is it bad?

i just know i can upgrade things on it=)

and everything i got nearly max

[viscid notch]

Olympian Favor is not worth it

Best swapping to Dark Foresight instead

[crude palm]

?

Aspect

?

[leaden whale]

chiron

[crude palm]

K

[leaden whale]

so?

imma fight ||hades|| with this build but no chance took a while to beat some vermins ;-;

[viscid notch]

Just try your best to get used to the patterns

[viscid notch]

Also spoiler the name of the boss

[leaden whale]

i dunno how to make it better
my biggest problem is the damage
even tho i have a good build
damage still poorlyhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933726366740926486/933726428153925713/unknown.png

[grave storm]

Swap Priv Stat to Family Fave, Olympian Favor to Dark Foresight, and Fated Authority to Persuasion

[kind remnant]

I agree with this assessment

[kind remnant]

Privileged status is only good if you know you'll be putting two debuffs on everyone

[misty fractal]

Is Deep Pockets better than the other one? 👀

[grave storm]

Yes

Unless you're doing meme runs like hoarding slash

[misty fractal]

hoarding slash?

[viscid notch]

Sword hammer that gives you a small damage increase based on how much gold you're carrying

The meme is to not spend your gold the whole run

Spoiler: it's not gud

[rugged thunder]

hey what should I do after my first victory

[viscid notch]

your second victory?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901889174884466698.gif?size=44

[rugged thunder]

lol

I didn't know if there were any big things that it unlocked to do or not

[viscid notch]

Well it unlocks ||Heat|| but whether you want to mess with that is up to you

[rugged thunder]

ah ok

[alpine ridge]

the general advice is to start doing ||heat|| runs so you can start upgrading your weapons

[viscid notch]

Yea since without them you wont get any more bounties

[full valley]

Omg i never went farther than a few rooms next to 2nd boss and this last run i went to ||Hades !!||. ||Sadly i lost at his second phase but that was awesome||. I managed to make a crazy build with movement speed and the more speed you have the more dmg you make. First time i saw some 2k+ dmgs xD. I had the spear. Love this game 😄 (i started it yesterday and im already addict :p)

im now upgrading my mirror but i need 20keys to unluck the next things ^^. Lets go farm i suppose :p

[viscid notch]

Nice

[full valley]

Yeah, more upgrades and maybe some luck and im sure i will be able to do it ^^. Cause yeah, RNG can have a big impact on your run in fact ^^

i unlocked ||the shield||, pretty fun to play too

i tried bow but its rly not for me i think, im so bad with it ^^

damn im always afraid to spoil things

[full valley]

can someone just explain me how some "souvenirs" (don't know the english word sry ^^') work. Im talking about the God souvenirs that says the next boon you will get will be from X god. Does this mean the first boon you have at the start will be from that god? I hope you"ll understand me, my english isnt perfect

[drifting cedar]

Keepsake(s)

And yes it works like that

[full valley]

ah thanks ^^ ok :). So you take them when you want to make like a build based on a certain god? is it rly worth it?

[rich osprey]

yeah, any amount of control you can have over your build is very nice

[dry mantle]

athena's dash ftw lol

when i first started playing and wasnt using a ranged weapon, id always start a run with athena's keepsake equipped lol gimme the dash

[full valley]

hehe ok thanks for infos guys

[restive portal]

The keepsakes don't guarantee that the chosen gods boon is in the first room, but it will be the first god boon you come across (you might get a hammer, a heart or a Hermes boon first).

[full valley]

ahh ok i see 🙂 ty

[viscid notch]

You wont get a Hermes boon

Unless it's the scripted event

[fresh current]

^^^

[rich osprey]

starter can be what?
keepsake boon, scripted boon, hammer, anything else?

im forgetting something

[fresh current]

God keepsakes forcing that god’s boons to appear has a big asterisk next to it and his name is Hermes

But Hermes keepsake buffs luck with his boons when he does turn up naturally, just like every other gods keepsake after their one charge is spent

[viscid notch]

Nope

It's Hammer or boon once all scripted stuff is out of the way

[fresh current]

Yeah boon or hammer for starters always

[gray haven]

Very sure Lord Hermes is never the first boon in a run in any event.

[viscid notch]

I dont remember seeing one in the recent file I created

[gray haven]

Yeah, it's always hammer or a god that's not Lord Hermes.

[leaden whale]

why would someone even start with him is there any build he is required

[kind remnant]

I've never seen Hermes 1st

I like Hermes

No drama

Keeps to himself

Just doing his job

[leaden whale]

i like him too but like who would start with him

its not essencial for any build

[kind remnant]

Doesn't matter cause you can't

[leaden whale]

as i know

[leaden whale]

=)))

[buoyant jay]

Isn’t he scripted when he first appears

[kind remnant]

I cannot confirm nor deny this

[leaden whale]

btw will there ever be new updates? or this is the final version

[polar finch]

#hades-patch-notes

[leaden whale]

maybe hes scripted to be the first god you see in aspho but not start of a run

[leaden whale]

not really first

if no keepsake

i said first in aspho

[lilac flicker]

should i upg my lvl2 aphro atk
lvl1 ||demeter|| special
lvl1 ares cast

[buoyant jay]

Cast

[lilac flicker]

should i get demeter aid or the chill cast after i cast

[leaden whale]

Ye not even in aspho it always first

[buoyant jay]

Demeter aid

[edgy storm]

Is hera bow good?

[grave storm]

Yes

[edgy storm]

How much to max it?

Tits blood how much

[grave storm]

idk at least 10

[edgy storm]

Damn

[grave storm]

Don't put blood in it unless you have spare

[buoyant jay]

You don’t need to max it out for it to be good

[edgy storm]

What should i invest blood in then?

Yea

[grave storm]

Any other bow

I say zag bow bc I'm biased against chiron

[edgy storm]

But maxing it out gives higher dpa

Dps

U can shoot more early

[grave storm]

The dps improvement per blood is worst in hera

Than any other bow

[edgy storm]

Hmm ok

[buoyant jay]

I don’t like playing chiron either

[grave storm]

don't need to wait for enemies to drop stones if you just kill them

[edgy storm]

Bosses💀

[grave storm]

chiron is bow for people who can't play bow

just use your regular attack for bosses

[edgy storm]

Yea

[buoyant jay]

Maxing out zag bow only costs 5 blood and is easy if you get heart rend on it

[edgy storm]

But having maxes hera is good for boss dps

[grave storm]

Or get the Hermes boon That buffs drop speed

[edgy storm]

Zag bow is not good tho

[gray haven]

Try to focus on just one aspect. High level aspects are gonna be a lot stronger than a lot of low level aspects.

Zag Bow is great.

[edgy storm]

Its the default bow

Bruh

[gray haven]

It's strong.

[edgy storm]

Hmm ok

[grave storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/921430260703174707/921430895532077056/Tumblr_l_73774971345709.gif

[edgy storm]

💀

[polar finch]

zag bow is great

[buoyant jay]

Zag bow is lit

[edgy storm]

Bruh Hades has the best weapon balancing ever in a game i swear

Nothing is op or trash

[polar finch]

ehhh

[edgy storm]

Or……

[gray haven]

Dunno about balance, but they're all viable and unique enough, so it's fun to just play all of them.

[polar finch]

bows are pretty balanced among each other

some aspects like zag sword do practically nothing

[gray haven]

But you can still do fun meme runs with it with Flurry Cursed Slash.

Or no-dash.

[edgy storm]

Sus

[buoyant jay]

No dash? Bruh

[polar finch]

15% movement speed pretty stonks for no dash

but you could also use a shield

[gray haven]

Not if you're doing last year's September Challenge.

[leaden whale]

i upgraded my heart seeking bow for the special to have 4 shots instead of 9. I want to revert it back to 9 shots though and idk if that possible. Is there a way to do this?

[viscid notch]

How did you do that to begin with

[polar finch]

go to the aspect menu and select aspect of zagreus

[leaden whale]

L1 chiron

is bad

[viscid notch]

Oh right

[leaden whale]

it was with the upgrades with the skelton guy before the run

im like in the middle of a run rn so i forget what the screen was called lol

dont use aspect of chiron till its lvl 3+

is that the name of the 4 shot special

its the name of the bow type where ur special hones in to enemies marked by ur attack

yea thats it

u can upgrade it to get more than 4 on special

does it get better then

cause i really liked having 9 shots

[opaque spruce]

well if you look at it a lot of the hidden aspects which are hardest to unlock are not the best

[leaden whale]

at max you get 8 homing shots which is good

but u cant max it for a while so get aspect which are good without much spending

[full valley]

Is it normal i still didnt unlock the codex? Im not that far in the game but im just wondering if i didnt miss something

[polar finch]

regular bow specual is pretty useless anyways

codex should be from talking to achilles

[full valley]

well i already met him im almost sure

he's guy with the name "???????" the first time u see him?

[polar finch]

have you been talking to him often tho?

[restive portal]

Yeah, normal bow special is the least interesting special I think

[full valley]

hm 2 times i think

[restive portal]

No, that's someone else. Achilles is in the house.

[polar finch]

elysium guy is patty

[full valley]

in the house? damn i never saw him or what xD

[opaque spruce]

achilles is on the left side of the houe

house

[full valley]

oh

[restive portal]

Do you have the codex but just don't know how to open it perhaps?

[full valley]

maybe i didnt see him lol

nope i dont have it ^^

one sec im going on the game

[restive portal]

You should probably look around the house more

[full valley]

omg yeah i think i now where he is. Ive only been once to that left side ^^'

thanks guys. hades said he wasnt there, will make a run or two and he should be here i suppose

[leaden whale]

yea after every run just go around the house talking to everyone, good way to progress the story

[full valley]

yeah thats what i did with every character, just totaly forgot Achilles ahah

thanks guys :p

[analog locust]

switched from ps4 to ps5, starting over from scratch.

[gray haven]

Y'all can set your roles in #bot-commands by the way.

[opaque spruce]

i wished they did what they did for the switch where there was cross save but sadly there were issues

[full valley]

its fine i got the codex now. after all that time ahah

question, as i just heard you can mod hades, do you think its a good idea to mod it as a beginner or should i wait ?

[leaden whale]

get the codex upgrade that lets you see boons is very handy

[full valley]

oh ok how do i get it? continue speaking to achilles?

[grave storm]

yeah

It should pop up in the work orders

[full valley]

ah yeah i saw it

perfect

[grave storm]

Modding is usually to make endgame content less RNG reliant

[full valley]

ok i see

[grave storm]

if you're starting out it's better to play the game as is

then you'll actually be able to understand what the mods do, if and when you get into them

Unless you like modding in general

[viscid notch]

Yea I would stick to the vanilla game

[grave storm]

or need certain accessibility mods

[gray haven]

Vanilla is best anyway.

[grave storm]

cookies and cream society

[full valley]

well yeah i like moding the games i play, only after i learned the vanilla game so yeah for the moment i'll stay with no mod and see later 😉

[grave storm]

well the modding server is pinned in self promo if you plan to go there eventually

[full valley]

ok thanks 🙂

[leaden whale]

a mod that guarantees epic as first boon would be nice because if its not, and im doing high ||heat|| i just scrap the run

[gray haven]

Spoilers.

[full valley]

gonna try the fists for my next run, and if it goes well i should get the last keys i need to unlock ||the pistol|| ^^. And so after i unlocked all weapons ||i will be able to upgrade permanently the weapons right? with the blood of titans||

[viscid notch]

An Epic starting boon isn’t always necessary even if it’s ||high heat||

[leaden whale]

its convenient

[leaden whale]

do 1 run with all weapons unlocked and then u can ||spend blood|| yea

[dense estuary]

You also have to get to the last boss, not beat them but get there

[polar finch]

MEless common doom

well ngl i couldve won

[viscid notch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839564138640048228/933047887867314196/taprepyh.gif

You’ll get it soon but this time with ME and epic doom

[polar finch]

why are fists better than zag sword tho

[full valley]

its ok i did that 🙂 should be good then thanks

[full valley]

okay 😉 ty

[leaden whale]

did ya win or just get there

[full valley]

i lost 2nd phase of the boss :p

but thats just a matter of time mwahaha 😄

now i unlocked one more death, should be easier. And when i'll have 3, np i think

i never tried the "god mod". I want at least my first legit win before trying it 😄

[leaden whale]

its 20% resistance upon activation and increases by 2% per death

[restive portal]

After your first "legit win" I'd wager you won't need it.

[full valley]

yeah i think u're right ^^

Ok so i just unlocked weapon upgrades, but i dont want to waste my titan blood. Any advices? I like the shield and the spear, are they good late game? What are the best upgrades for those weapons?

[leaden whale]

for sheild get aspect of zues, its blood efficent bcz its still good at Lvl 1

[full valley]

i have 5/6 blood atm so i can afford a few upgrades if neccessary, i would prefer put them into one weapon but for that i have to make my choice if i focus the spear or the shield ^^

[leaden whale]

on spear do you prefer spin attack or specials

[full valley]

i prefer the spin but the fact that you dont move while charging can be an issue sometimes 😒

[leaden whale]

||aspect of hades|| is pretty good at low level too

[full valley]

i saw the one that give you bonus dmg after throwing your spear

[leaden whale]

it makes ur spin big

achillies is great but it needs a few levels to be good

[full valley]

ok 🙂

if i buy one upgrade and try it on skelly, if i leave the game i'll get back my blood right?

as long as i dont leave room

[leaden whale]

yea as long as you dont go to ur room

[full valley]

ok ^^

wanted to be sure thanks

[leaden whale]

you can try it in a run and give up too

[full valley]

ill have the blood back if i start a run and give up?

[leaden whale]

yea it goes back to the moment you enter the weapon room

[full valley]

ohhh ok good to know

[gray haven]

Even just Lv.1 Achilles is better than the other spears. At Lv.1, you get as much bonus Cast damage as Poseidon Aspect gets at Lv.5.

I'd genuinely put Lv.1 Achilles above Lv.5 Hades spear.

[gray haven]

You don't need to worry about late game tbh. You're far from reaching that, and when you do, you'll have plenty of Titan Blood to max out whatever aspect you favor.

That said, Zeus and the hidden shield are two of the very best weapon aspects for endgame stuff.

Spear struggles in endgame, but Achilles does the best out of the spears.

Bow and Rail are very strong.

[full valley]

ok thanks for all the infos ! 🙂

[lilac flicker]

best ||companion|| to get?

[polar finch]

megs

[gray haven]

is the answer, naturally.

[opaque spruce]

Megs and syphiuses imo but most occasions meg I find it so much better than the rest

[lilac flicker]

im actually aiming for that but

maybe ill go for meg's first?

i dont even have her keepsake yet

[opaque spruce]

Meg is so good it does good damage and activates fast

[lilac flicker]

how do ||companions||work?

[opaque spruce]

On certain people after rthe locked heartbu gift them and they will give u something u can upgrade each time u upgrade it's one more use a run up to 5 and u can only call once perchamber some of them have restrictions such as u can't use it against certain people or ubhave to progress into the story to go against certain bosses

[lilac flicker]

oh

[opaque spruce]

||btw to max a companion it's 10 ambrosia and u have to go into their story so I'd say go for it after beatong the game||

[lilac flicker]

thanks

[opaque spruce]

Wait have u beat the game yet?

Just wondering

[lilac flicker]

yeah only 2 times

[gray haven]

I wouldn't focus too much on trying to unlock them. You'll get there when you get there.

[lilac flicker]

oh

[opaque spruce]

Tbh just talk to people and gift them when you can eventually it will just happen

[lilac flicker]

what should i for then?

[lilac flicker]

thanks

[gray haven]

More clears, prophecies, things like that.

[lilac flicker]

thankw=s sm

[gray haven]

Things that you have more active control over.

[lilac flicker]

like the mirror/

?

[gray haven]

Well, the mirror you don't really have active control over. You can't just will more Darkness into existence.

But you can actively go for certain prophecies that give you resources.

[opaque spruce]

Unlocking the full mirror if u haven't is a good idea

But darkness u just kinda get it as u play

[lilac flicker]

thanks

[gray haven]

I'll say that I focused on Darkness over the other blue laurel rewards in my Hell mode save around the point you're at now. It's just good longterm because you'll eventually run out of use for everything else before you run out of use for Darkness.

And you'll be forced into the other blue laurel rewards often enough anyway.

[opaque spruce]

If u do wanna focus on darkness there's a mirror of the night where u can get 60 percent healing if the darkness u collect

[gray haven]

I'd still take Chthonic Vitality over that, personally, but it's not a bad idea.

[opaque spruce]

I find that it restores more health in the first half of a run then I stop taking darkness routes after asphodel

[gray haven]

Well, there are no Darkness chambers past Elysium.

[leaden whale]

the first boss is chamber 14 which means up to 39 healing from CV, for DR to top that you'll need to get 61 darkness before furies which is pretty doable but its gonna be useless late game

only worth it if your early in the savefile and cant reach elysium

[opaque spruce]

Trye

True

[gray haven]

Darkness troves and Darkness in Wells and shops will have healing. That's quite nice.

[leaden whale]

true, its decent when focusing on meta progress

[gray haven]

Buying out all the Darkness you find is a good idea anyway.

It's cheap and doesn't affect your run much. Might as well get some healing out of it.

Also adds more value to any Darkness bonus you find.

Dark Regeneration used to be meta outside of speedruns when it was still 80%.

[opaque spruce]

At the contractor u can also pick up the plus 5 HP for every darkness u get so that helps too

[gray haven]

Yeah, you wanna unlock those early.

[lilac flicker]

blue laurel?

ik what a laurel is but idt ive seen a blue laurel

oh

]nvm

nvm

should i make a new save?

lmao

[leaden whale]

gold laurels give run stuff like boons and hammers and blue laurels give meta stuff like darkness and gems

[lilac flicker]

yeah

[leaden whale]

why would you? thats something you do when ur end game

[opaque spruce]

I think making a new save is only good when u have finished the story finished the last couple prophecys and unlocked a lot of the stuf

[vivid patio]

should we pin the room reward guide here

[dapper bone]

hiii

does cursed slash work with dash strike?

[odd shoal]

probably with a disclaimer that you need a house contractor to get the +5 health from darkness, +1 level from nectar, etc.

[odd shoal]

it does not

[gray haven]

Sounds like a good idea! It comes up a lot more often here than in #h1-builds-and-combat.

[vivid patio]

i can ask sparrow if they mind updating it

[gray haven]

It's up-to-date, no? ||Only Lady Demeter is missing, but she's a spoiler here anyway, so it checks out||.

[vivid patio]

might be worth pointing out some of those things are contractor bonuses to avoid confusion, perhaps

unless you think it's fine, i dont lurk in here as often as i should

[gray haven]

It's implied, but could be clearer. Wouldn't hurt clearing that up in the guide if they're up for it.

[vivid patio]

[feral valve]

What is the best weapon?

[grave storm]

Your favorite one

[feral valve]

I like the shield

[grave storm]

unless it's chaos shield

[feral valve]

Aegis

[modern crest]

on the codesx screen Hades has an empty heart with a bow in it. do i just keep giving him nectar to fill it up?

[grave storm]

yeah
Give everyone else at least one first

[modern crest]

ahh k kthx

[feral valve]

Is aegis that shield? Because Aegis is my favorite

[faint umbra]

heart with a bow means you’ll get a gift in return for the nectar/ambrosia

If it’s empty, you only get dialogue

and friendship :]

[grave storm]

Yes

[feral valve]

Oh so I shouldn’t use it?

[grave storm]

no you should

[feral valve]

Oh ok

[polar finch]

just use whatever works for you

[grave storm]

the point is there's not really a "best" weapon, just use whatever you like

[feral valve]

👍

[leaden whale]

they meant aspect of chaos kinda bad

[feral valve]

I haven’t unlocked that one yet

[leaden whale]

the rest of the sheild aspects are good tho

[leaden whale]

keep it that way

[feral valve]

Ok

Is it a Daedalus upgrade

[polar finch]

well tbh its newb friendly at the very least

[grave storm]

It's the second shield aspect from the top

I don't think it's newb friendly? The special takes forever to come back so you can't block in the meantime

[polar finch]

well new players like it

[leaden whale]

Zag shield special is depressing ngl

[full valley]

Question about ||fishing spots, do you often have some, guys? They are "rare" no? I know now how to spot them (with the little sound at the end of the room or with the light in the "water") ||

[humble herald]

I'm not sure what you mean by ||"guys" there, and what you're asking about rarity.||

[full valley]

||lol "guys" is just a way to talk, its not part of the question xD.||

||but nvm i found the % of chance of having a fishing spot depending on the biome on the wiki so its fine ;)||

[humble herald]

||the new comma helps my comprehension ||

[full valley]

^^'

[full valley]

is it normal that you need a certain amount of nectar to be able to gift it? Example i had 3 nectars and couldnt give one to someone in the house (dont remember the name), but when i had 4 i was able

[viscid notch]

Are you trying to gift them multiple times

In one go

[full valley]

nope, it was the first time i was gifting to that person

[viscid notch]

Were they talking to someone

[full valley]

hmm maybe, not sure about that but its possible

[viscid notch]

If they are talking to someone you cant gift them iirc, and you cant give them more than 1 nectar in one go, besides that there isn’t anything I think

[full valley]

okay thanks 😉

was probably talking to someone thats probably the reason

[leaden whale]

Yeah it's a bit annoying

But can't interrupt

Even in instances where they separate

[opaque spruce]

So of they have a locked heart and you have to unlock that heart and after ungidt them ambrosia but no they might be been just talking to someone else in that case since I can only gift one necter at a time but u can gift multiple ambrosia

[analog locust]

I had to restart from scratch and am curious if there is a suggested item priority for early runs (ie ,nectar > keys > gems > etc.) to more quickly get you into the mid/late game?

[fresh current]

Late to the party but zag shield is my #1 new player weapon in the game

Understand that the special is mostly a “utility” button to tag multiple enemies with curse boons from afar

And that most of your time should be spent mashing your face furiously on the a button and unga-bungaing across the room until everything is dead

Forget the shield charge even exists, use your toss as a situational utility button, and for the rest just turn off every brain cell you have until the room is red mist. That’s zag shield, very easy to pick up in that regard. Good damage, forgiving of imprecise newbie movement, versatile with its ranged attack and very, very low skill floor to be effective with

Also an excellent raw damage buff to the attack you should be using 95% of the time for minimal investment of 5 blood. 10/10 bang for buck aspect.

Should’ve been the default weapon imo.

[grave storm]

Nectar all the gods once for build control, Cerb, Skelly and Eurydice for survival, then focus on keys and darkness, and enough gems to buy work orders

[tawny birch]

VOUCH

[white wave]

does he ever come alone in an Elite fight like Arterius does?

[tawny birch]

i dont believe so no

[viscid notch]

Nope

[tawny birch]

from what i know, the best thing to do is try to defeat asterius in an elite fight ahead of time (he'll have less health in the boss fight) and during the boss fight, try to kill asterius before theseus hits his second phase at half health

tbh i havent been able to defeat them yet but ive gotten very close. quite frustrating

[white wave]

oh i can beat them now

and that is the strat i follow as well

though the health reduction from art's elite fight barely helps

[tawny birch]

true

[white wave]

doom and hangover are helpful on theseus

[tawny birch]

i love to just blade dash all over him while im taking care of the bull but yeah

[white wave]

weak is the most useless curse imo, idek what it does

[tawny birch]

right?

i was talking with one of my other friends yesterday she's a god at hades and she said pretty much every ares boon is useless

[viscid notch]

Weak is very strong

[tawny birch]

[white wave]

weak is aphrodite

[viscid notch]

Active damage reduction and massive multipliers

[white wave]

ares' doom is nice

[viscid notch]

What better could you ask for

[tawny birch]

oh right i was thinking doom my b

[viscid notch]

I don't think you can compare curses that way

There is a lot more to it

Saying Doom is the worst curse is pretty much saying you don't know how to use it effectively

Because all the curses have their usage and are very viable and good in their own way

Whether on different weapons/aspects/||heat|| etc

[white wave]

what's there to use it 'effectively'
all the curses you're just supposed to put on the enemies then beat 'em

[viscid notch]

Yea but putting a Doom curse on the Bow's attack for example is worthless for example, of course it would feel very underwhelming that way

[grave storm]

mind not talking so passive aggressively in the newbie channel?

[white wave]

would it? i find doom to go well with pretty much every weapon except aegis
cuz i cant use aegis lmao

maybe not with the spear, cuz it's spammy so i dont really need the delayed damage if ive already killed the enemy

plus you can get the boon which delays the hit further for more damage

[viscid notch]

Well it's not supposed to come out as passive aggressive, but I do think it's best to learn how to use each God's effect properly before casting an opinion on it which might mislead other players who could also have limited knowledge

[viscid notch]

Doom and Flat damage in general is best used on rapid hitting attacks, such as the Fists attack, slower and chunkier attacks with good base damage usually want a % increase rather than flat damage, your bow attack has good base damage and scales very strongly with hammers, so putting flat damage on it breaks the point and will probably lead to your base attack damage to strongly outdamage your flat damage still

Which is why you instead go for something like Artemis (crit rate is good) or Aphrodite (weak = survivability and also she has big % boosts and good scaling with rarity and poms)

[white wave]

I dont understand one thing about Artemis' boons

one of her boons increases your attack dmg and also critical chance by 15% i think at Common

normal attack that is

and another Boon only raises the crit chance by like 5% for all attacks even on Epic

:|

https://prnt.sc/26h17k5

[viscid notch]

Yes, her boons have a small % increase (compared to other gods) due to the crit rate that you get (15% is reasonably gud it's not low on most things), and crit rate is triple damage so having a big % boost and the crit rate would be too overpowered

[white wave]

https://prnt.sc/26h17qe

[viscid notch]

yup

[white wave]

no i understand why the % inc is low, that's a thing in most games for crit dmg
what i dont understand is why does Deadly strike give you +15% crit chance on Common whereas Pressure Points gives you just +5% even on Heroic

[viscid notch]

Because it's Global crit chance so it applies to everything almost

[white wave]

ik Press Points is raising the crit chance for all the attacks, i.e. normal, heavy and cast but even then.. seems weird

[viscid notch]

Yea it's a small boost, usually not worth pomming either

[white wave]

mhm

[viscid notch]

It's a good side pick if Artemis isnt any of your main damage because it opens up Hunter's Mark, which is a big crit chance increase if you can keep bouncing it across enemies, and pressure points is also a prereq for Artemis' Legendary

[white wave]

i havent gotten any legendaries yet

on my 22nd run

tbh im too dumb to make actual builds lol, i just take whatever seems to be good at the moment

[tawny birch]

yeah same

my play style is just zoom in hit hard and then run away before taking damage

im a big fan of the dash damage boons

blade rift and tidal wave my beloved

drunken dash is okay but not my fave

[white wave]

"kill them before they kill you"
the only motto one should have for roguelites

[tawny birch]

fr

[white wave]

and "dont get hit"

i love drunken dash, it's great against the hydra

blade rift idk how to use

[tawny birch]

i try not to get hit but then i catch a face full of orbs in the witches circle pop a death defiance and lose all hope

[tawny birch]

honestly kinda the same as drunken, at least as far as i can remember

it does more damage i think? especially if you pom it

any of the damage dashes seem good for the hydra fight

[white wave]

yeah it is the same, stays static where you dashed from, but most of the enemies move away quickly so i can barely do anything with it

whereas drunken dash quickly stacks up hangover so i think it's more useful

but maybe im just not looking carefully and it's the other way around lol

[tawny birch]

theres another ares boon you can get after you get blade dash that expands the hit radius, on my most recent run i had blade dash plus the expansion and pommed tf out of both and omg it was fantastic

[white wave]

yeah the boon upgrades for ares are great

[leaden whale]

i had this dash only run where i got 6 dashes and pommed poseidons dash and did so much damage lol

[full valley]

question about casts. With mirror it says you do more dmg when an ennemi has been hit by the cast, but do they stack? i mean, is their a point to put 3 casts on someone or one is enough? hope i'm understandable xd

i tried on skelly and it seems that you do same dmg with 1 or 3 casts on the ennemi but i want to be sure im not missing something

[leaden whale]

they dont stack if u see 1 blood stone stuck in them they get the effect

[full valley]

ok thanks :). And are the boons that change your casts interesting? cause i saw when using some of them the ennemy dont have anymore the little blood stone so im loosing damage if i use that kind of boon?

i remember having a boon that change your cast into like a "laser ray" that was following the target

when using that kind of thing you lose the bonus damage then?

i personaly use casts only to get the bonus dmgs so i dont rly understand what are the points of boons that modify your casts. Their is probably something im missing

[leaden whale]

casts from some gods dont stick but i wouldnt say it looses damage except maybe on bosses becuase most enemies die to fast for the sticking to matter

[full valley]

oh ok i see 🙂

and then should i use my casts to make damages or just to get the bonus dmgs ? cause i was wondering what is the best in the mirror, to get +2 more casts or the other

im watching a run right now on YT and the guy makes lot of dmgs with the casts 😮 i never realized they could do so much dmgs

but i suppose its build dependent, on some builds they will make dmgs, with others they wont. Yeah the run im watching the guy is focusing on cast dmgs

[leaden whale]

yea ||demeters|| cast is real bad if its not the focus of your build

[full valley]

yeah that was total useless in the build i had XD

[leaden whale]

i use casts a aoe dmg or to use in between other things

like dionysus casts is really good as AoE dmg then stun

[full valley]

yeah thats what im doing too most of times

damn so much combinaison/type of builds you can do in this game 😄 love it

every run will be different to the last

i discovered the ||duo boons too (by pure luck, didnt know what i was doing ahah), damn some are rly good.||

[leaden whale]

i dont like casts that stick cuz they usually only hit one person

[full valley]

yeah but you make lot of dmgs on them

on bosses its interesting

[leaden whale]

yea i felt that way as a new player, but now i love cast damage

[leaden whale]

most builds dont care what cast you have

[full valley]

so for builds that are non cast focused, i can change the mirror and remove the +2 casts ? or it doesnt matter

[leaden whale]

i use infernal soul in non casts build so i can just toss em and forget about it for a while but i see why people would like stygian soul for support casts because you get 1 once in a while when you need it

which is nice for applying debuffs/stuck

[full valley]

omg i just fight ||Charon for first time and he destroyed me ! Probably hardest fight than Hades lol. No way to dodge his billions of balls (even tho i had Athena Dash i dont think it was reflecting them o)||

[gray haven]

Yeah, you can't deflect them. You need to empty-dash to get through them.

You're invincible during empty dash, but you lose that if you attack or anything during the dash.

You're also invincible for a short time when you activate any Call.

So if you find yourself with your dashes on cooldown, you can use Call to evade an attack.

[polar finch]

also helpful for not being damaged by asterius charges

[gray haven]

@viscid notch did you get banned for that?

[viscid notch]

not yet

[gray haven]

Sometimes I do Dash > Dash > Call just to get more leniency pretty much when in a bad spot.

[full valley]

ok well i will wait to get the perfect build before trying him again ^^

when you say empty dash you mean the classic dash?

[viscid notch]

Empty dashing is pretty much just dashing

And that grants you iframes

If you dash then press attack it becomes a dash strike and you don’t have iframes during those

So it makes your vulnerable

[full valley]

oh ok i see

i will need training for that fight i think :p

[viscid notch]

Doesn’t mean you shouldnt dash strike but if you are trying to dodge an attack it’s best to empty dash through it unless you’re very experienced at what you’re doing

[full valley]

3 lifes, trying to make as much dmg as i can get and he was still 40% left something like that :S

ok

[gray haven]

"Empty dash" as in just Dash without any attack. It's from fighting games were "empty jump" means doing a jump without an attack.

Since Dash-Strikes are also dashes, it's good to use "empty dash" to clarify that it's a dash without any attack or anything.

[full valley]

ah yeah right i see the reference to fighting games :p

thanks for all the infos, this discord is very helpfull 🙂

[dapper bone]

Do you still have those empty dash iframes if you have a dash boon?

[odd shoal]

Yes

[viscid notch]

Yup

[edgy storm]

is zues attack best for spear?

[gray haven]

Lighting Strike into Static Discharge is certainly a good idea with the spear.

Tidal Dash is gonna be more important, though. That's what you'd want to start with on spear.

[lilac flicker]

||
||

?

[edgy storm]

yes

thx

[steep musk]

what would you say the easiest heat conditions are (please dont use the abbreviations lol)

[leaden whale]

i think the time duration ||heat condition is a very easy heat condition ||

along with ||extreme measure at least the first 2 are super free ||

[steep musk]

oh? is it?

idk im not the fastest at clearing rooms so ive been wary

[leaden whale]

the 9 minute one you are good as long as your in game clear time is <28m

[steep musk]

***extreme measures it is then ***

[leaden whale]

wait sorry

i gave u wrong information i think 9 minute with 4 floor is <36m

the 7 minute time duration one is 7 minutes with 4 <28m

[ivory ocean]

@leaden whale @pliant tinsel please remember to spoiler tag ||heat|| in this channel thank you :)

[leaden whale]

[edgy storm]

How do you get fully loaded, the thing that give you +2 casts

[leaden whale]

2 of the following
-support fire
-exit wounds
-pressure points

Dont you have a codex

[edgy storm]

oh

thx

also

is mort better than battie?

mort has more damage

[maiden ruin]

battie is faster

[leaden whale]

||mort|| misses more often

[maiden ruin]

and hitting minibosses with it is easier

[kind remnant]

Missing feels bad

[edgy storm]

okie

thx

[cerulean kayak]

Im a bad player and climbing around 5 heat now... I feel like I end up winning all runs even though Im always getting hit by many things I shouldnt. Should I start again on hell mode or just keep climbing?

[leaden whale]

||heat|| is spoiler here but imo just keep playing and start a new save after maxing all the aspects you like

[polar finch]

hell mode isnt really gunna make you any better you already have the ||pact||

[leaden whale]

well it would reset their mirror

if u want more of a challenge go for the ||skelly trophies||

[gray haven]

You can just try out Hell mode and see how you like it.

[edgy storm]

any good sword builds?

[feral valve]

I’m having trouble killing Megaera’s sisters consistently

[leaden whale]

Merciful End, Doom attack, Deflect special and dash

[gray haven]

What aspect?

[edgy storm]

zagh

zag

[gray haven]

Merciful End is good. Heartbreak Strike > Zeus' Aid > Smoldering Air is a little easier to get.

[edgy storm]

k thx

[gray haven]

Heartbreak Strike + Tidal Dash isn't too bad either. You'd want lots of poms on Tidal Dash and some t2 boons for it.

[edgy storm]

k

[kind remnant]

Smair with Poseidon, then just skip sword

[edgy storm]

yall really need to stop using

[polar finch]

no

[gray haven]

We need to use more.

[maiden ruin]

[gray haven]

[nova isle]

asjkd hqwh i finally finished a run

[gray haven]

Congratulations!

Time for #h1-victory-boasting.

[maiden ruin]

congradulashions

[edgy storm]

what is good hammer for zag sword?

[leaden whale]

double edge

[edgy storm]

thx

also stop with the 😡

[leaden whale]

look what youve done, now we cant stop using it

[pseudo narwhal]

can we get a dusa sticker

[maiden ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864281763526344705/875516432060907620/unknown.png

wall of dusa

[pseudo narwhal]

thank u

saving this

[nova isle]

how do you unlock the last aspect of a weapon?

[edgy storm]

what is good fists build?

@nova isleu need to unlock all the ones before

[nova isle]

like just for 1 level?

[proud river]

does that include the spear?

[edgy storm]

you need the spear to fist be unlocked

then u can get the rest of them

[nova isle]

i dont follow

[edgy storm]

actually

im completly wrong

you need to do a bunch of steps

[proud river]

IK, I mean do I need to unlock all the other aspects of the spear before I can start dialoge?

[edgy storm]

you need to spend atlease 5 titan blood on that wepon

then you can start the dialoge

also you need to reach the final boss, no need to kill it

[nova isle]

ok I got it now

[edgy storm]

what is the best hammer upgrade for fists?

zag aspect

[kind remnant]

[kind remnant]

😂 😂 😂

[opaque spruce]

First u need to get hidden aspect of the spear to do this I need to at least reach hades then you invest 5 titan blood in non Zag weapons then you talk to someone I forgot who then u get the hidden aspect u don't need to own it to get other weapons all the other weapons work similarly invest 5 titan blood into the aspects of the weapon u want to unlock then talk to someone get a certain dialogue then next time u equip that weapon it will show

[gray haven]

Breaching Cross.

[edgy storm]

k

[nova isle]

oh i think you have to talk to achillies

but thanks i got it now

[opaque spruce]

Btw I would recommend unlocking they hidden aspect of the shield first as it is really powerful and lots of people like it

[nova isle]

oh noted for sure

thanks

[edgy storm]

||I just fought chairon||wtf

[steep musk]

ohh yeah

[kind remnant]

Why'd you steal

[steep musk]

whats dusas favor again?

[grave storm]

Lounge makeover

[steep musk]

ah

10 renovations + rug right

[feral valve]

Why are Tisiphone and Alecto so much harder than the bone hydra

[polar finch]

they run at your face ig

[alpine ridge]

the furies are more bullet-hell-y than the hydra

and attack faster as well

Hydra hits harder and has copies of itself but doesn't attack as quickly and the attacks are more telegraphed as well

[polar finch]

tis is really telegraphed tbh

[alpine ridge]

and tis is the easiest Fury fight for that reason haha

ALthough i still think tis is harder than Hydra

just because of the arena change

[polar finch]

tbh i find tis easier to not get hit by ||with em2 fo2||

[leaden whale]

y is it that between 02:50 and 03:40 today everyone was reacting with

[gray haven]

An evil force said to stop using .

Needless to say, prevailed.

[robust lark]

Question: what happens if I have a duo boon that alters a cast- and then I grab a replacement cast from an entirely different god?

The duo boon will disappear or something?

Curse of Drowning in my particular case

[viscid notch]

The Duo boon stays but doesn't do anything anymore basically

Cast Duo boons are usually specific to one cast

If you get rid of that cast they dont work anymore

Like Hunting Blades Cold Embrace etc

[robust lark]

Right, loud and clear. Thank you

[viscid notch]

Mirage Shot works with all Casts incase that's confusing

Even the boonless cast

[full valley]

Without boons, when you start a run, you have 0% critical ?

[viscid notch]

Some aspects have natrual crit chance right off the bat, those being Nemesis and Zag bow, other than that yea it's 0%

[full valley]

yeah thats what i was thinking, if i take a boon that has effect when i do critical it will do nothing unless i have another boon that give me crit right?

[viscid notch]

Yes, if you take Clean Kill for example and you cant crit to begin with then it has no effect

However, those boons wont show up unless you have a source of crit chance

[full valley]

oh ok! thats good to know

thanks 🙂

[viscid notch]

Np, a lot of boons have prerequisites even if they're not Duos nor Legendaries, you can check them in your Codex

[restive portal]

On Arthur I often take Artemis special for an AoE which gets the crit train rolling and aim for a good Hunter's Mark. Then you get some really meaty crits going.

[kind remnant]

Love meaty crits

[viscid field]

are duo boons rare?

[polar finch]

if you know what your doing they arent hard to get

[viscid field]

you can cause them to happen mroe often?

[buoyant jay]

Yes

[viscid field]

Whats a main way?

[buoyant jay]

There’s a mirror perk I forget the name of

[restive portal]

And chaos boons

And items from the well of Charon

[buoyant jay]

Gods legacy

Gods legacy is the mirror perk name

[viscid field]

got it thank youu!

[restive portal]

And choosing rooms correctly

[viscid field]

are they all the same chance or is 1 duo rarer and better than the others

[polar finch]

keepsakes

base chance is 12% per slot

[viscid field]

because i got poseidon and artemis or aphrodite I forgot

[polar finch]

10% for miniboss rooms

[viscid field]

got it thank you

[buoyant jay]

Some duo boons are better than others but they should all have the same chance

I think

[polar finch]

same chance as legendaries

[viscid field]

what's the best duo boon?

[buoyant jay]

Depends on your build

[viscid field]

bow build?

[polar finch]

probably merciful end or smouldering air overall. mostly build dependent

that isnt a build

[viscid field]

Oh

Like as in the heat-seeking bow or whatever its called

[buoyant jay]

Build is your boon combination

[restive portal]

Heart

[viscid field]

oh well i mostly pick up artemis and aphrodite and poseidon's sprint is that a build?

[polar finch]

the only useful duo out of that combo is heartrend

[buoyant jay]

Heart rend is good with artemis and Aphrodite

[polar finch]

but you want to have zag bow upgraded for that

[viscid field]

Got it thank you very much everyone

you can upgrade the heart seeking bow?

[polar finch]

after you unlock the last weapon you can

and then doing a run

[viscid field]

i unlocked the gun thing even tho it sucks

[polar finch]

it doesnt suck

[buoyant jay]

Rail is lit

[viscid field]

idk i guess I just don't like the playstyle

[buoyant jay]

What really sucks is the sword

[polar finch]

rail shouldnt be built with a % dmg boon on the attack

[viscid field]

the greatsword we start with?

[buoyant jay]

Yes

[polar finch]

all weapons are pretty viable

[buoyant jay]

It’s up to personal preference

[polar finch]

melee can be harder to play tho

[viscid field]

tbh its ok i just prefer the bow, fists and MAYBE the shield

also one last question

the 2nd sister of meg, i think her name was sylephene or something

[polar finch]

Tisiphone

[viscid field]

is she meant to be difficult and harder than the others?

cause I have never been able to beat her but beat her sisters so easily

[viscid notch]

She is usually a bit tougher

And she also has more hp

[polar finch]

Tisiphone becomes easier than the other two when you learn her patterns imo

[viscid field]

oh tbh i think the 2nd is easier

i forgot her name ofc cause i suck with names

[buoyant jay]

To be fair so does tisiphone

[polar finch]

if youve done all the requirements you should be able to open the aspect menu by selecting a weapon then interacting again with its empty podium

[polar finch]

could say purple, red, green ig

[viscid field]

Yeah true actually

What's the name of the girl in the lava part of the underworld that sings and gives you really good food that buffs ur boons

[buoyant jay]

Eurydice

[viscid field]

I wanna search up a video of her singing for hours cause she's amazing

thank you

Is Orpheus related to lore? I always feel bad for him/her and i hope i'll see more of them later

[leaden whale]

Orpheus has a story line yea

[viscid field]

thank god

[leaden whale]

which one? theres like 15 in hades

[lapis parcel]

||Hi, I’m really confused with the pact of punishment. I don’t really understand it. Once you’ve escaped with another weapon does filling up the heat bar earn more bounties? I rlly nead titan blood and diamonds.||

[leaden whale]

the ||pact and heat|| are spoilers here

[leaden whale]

basically u just fill up the bar and it lets u earn the boss kill rewards again

[lapis parcel]

Ah ty. Sry abt the spoilers

[opaque spruce]

||let's say I have one heartbu beat hades then u can get regards for 2 heat but let's say u don't beat one heat hades u don't get rewards for doing 2 heat||

[lapis parcel]

Ty!

[polar finch]

||well doing 2 heat still gives you rewards just the ones you couldve gotten by just doing 1 heat to be more exact||

[opaque spruce]

That's what I was trying to say I just couldn't figure out the words to explain it

[lapis parcel]

👍

[uneven sun]

||Can I still get skelly's prize if my gauge is 6 but I fill it to 8 ?||

[gray haven]

Yes. All of that is spoilers in this channel btw.

[uneven sun]

Oh I forgot sorry

[dapper bone]

when you are bonded with someone and their keepsake has their little logo on it, does it effect the keepsake in any way other than more details about it?

[grave storm]

No

[dapper bone]

ty

[opaque spruce]

But it's cute

[silver tiger]

||What happens if we achieve a higher heat level directly for example 10, does the game directly provide us with all the resources of the lower heats?||

[quick drum]

i really wish they didnt do that tbh

always makes me sad when i have good pace and then waste an extra 4 seconds because tis

[modern crest]

||I got the rail’s hidden aspect without spending 5 titan blood into any of its variants. Is that the case for all hidden aspects?||

[leaden whale]

||heat is a spoiler, but no you dont get everything below its just the same as if you did the heat ur at. So its like if ur heat gauge is at 5, and you do 10 youll get the rewards for heat 5, you heat 10 again and youll get rewards for 6 and so on.||

@silver tiger

[modern crest]

Does Abyssal blood work on bosses

[gray haven]

Yes.

[edgy storm]

to give megera more nectar do you have to keep killing her and her sisters?

[grave storm]

ye

[alpine ridge]

not really, you only give meg nectar at the house and you technically don't need to kill her to see her there

[robust lark]

Does buying Hermes in a shop count towards the max 2 hermes?

[odd shoal]

yes

[leaden whale]

yes unless styx

[robust lark]

Thank you 🙂

[restive portal]

Yes that's entirely possible and fine. You only need to unlock ||hidden aspects|| at all to start getting them. Which weapons ||have Titan blood|| doesn't matter.

[leaden whale]

what ||hidden aspect|| you recomend?

my fav weapon is the bow btw

[restive portal]

They are all interesting. I really like the Sword.

[trail widget]

I actually beat the third boss, wooo

[leaden whale]

how do i get ||achilles companion?||i have a keyhole already

[viscid field]

||I have a question, I beat the minotaur and now it says i need to get smthing for cerbrus to pass through. What does he neeed?||

[viscid notch]

You have to bribe him

So go through the tunnels

[viscid field]

is it random?

1/5 chance?

[viscid notch]

It cannot be in the very first tunnel you take, besides that it's random yea

Getting it in second tunnel is 54% chance iirc

[toxic panther]

Guess who just tried to charm ||bull dude|| sad

so do I charm him during a different phase? I tried while he was spinning and he just shrugged it off and went back to stomping me

[viscid notch]

Charm duration is 1/3 on bosses

So you're mostly looking to get out of trouble using it unless it's a greater call

[viscid field]

||So um I just beat hades for the first time but im so confused, am i not done with the game yet?||

[dusty vault]

Now do it again

[viscid field]

😃 i'm waiting for the jk

[kind remnant]

You've only just begun

That was the prologue

[dusty vault]

||the credits require 10 wins||

[viscid notch]

You're done with the tutorial now

[kind remnant]

[viscid field]

||Is beating hades first try an accomplishment atleast||

😭

[restive portal]

There is no escape.

You can get rewards from your desk in your room if you have spoken to Achilles and got the list of prophecies.

And there's this new thing you can do on future runs to make them so much easier...

[kind remnant]

Yes, most don't do that

[leaden whale]

||beat him 8 more times i think and you will have done the prologue||

||8 or 9 times||

[opaque spruce]

||I'm guessing u want to give her ambrosia to get her companion, after u get the locked heart just keep playing the game and beating the furies talkkl to her at every opportunity and she will come to ur room and u can gift her ambrosia for her companion||

[opaque spruce]

||my favourite aspect for each weapon is Arthur, Achilles, beowolf, Hera, Demeter, and eris So I would say for hidden aspects unlock shield and sword first but if u like the bow rama could be fun but I still prefer hera||

[leaden whale]

||ye i upgraded hera instead of buying rama its easy to clear with it||

[kind remnant]

My hidden aspect rankings from personal preference is

Bow
Shield
Sword
Spear
Gun
Fists

Bow hidden is my fav aspect by miles

[jovial notch]

||based and redpilled: nemesis for good, Arthur for shenanigans, Achilles, beo (Zeus for high heat), hera for fun/Rama for high heat, demeter, and Eris for speedrunning/hestia for one genre of fun and Lucifer for another||

[jovial notch]

||beo is my favorite aspect lmfao ||

[kind remnant]

It's a close second for me

[leaden whale]

“bow hidden is my fav aspect by miles”
“its a close second for me”

u sus

[kind remnant]

10 times outta 10 I'll say bow is the best

But mechanically shield is just as good arguably

Is what I mean, i guess

[trail widget]

||finally reached Hades but died||

||how do I fish?||

[opaque spruce]

Buy it it's one diamond at the contractor

[lethal osprey]

I'll add here, that you must defeat Theseus + Astereus and make your way to Styx fountain chamber once to have the Fishing Rod added to the Contractor.

[leaden whale]

anyway can give me a good rama build?

[kind remnant]

Zeus on special + jolted
Aphro on attack

[leaden whale]

lol i have that rn without reading this i just fought it would work with spamming special