h1-for-new-players

[frank mountain]

oh ok

[valid shoal]

He is trying to help your escape and has a friendly competition

[frank mountain]

so i finally meet the last guy

[frank mountain]

oh hell yeah

[grave storm]

he does make the room spawn more enemies than usual so if you get a good lead and the enemies are dangerous you can run away and let him deal with them

in Elysium especially

[frank mountain]

should i kill bull or thesues first

i'm about to start the fight

AWW DAMN

i was soo close to killing the bull

so sad

[leaden whale]

@frank mountain what do you have as your weapons?

[frank mountain]

i've got them all lmao

[dusty vault]

late but bull first

[thin pier]

to unlock the epilogue, must you full heart with every god?

[frank mountain]

yeah i alr died

uhhhh how do i get enough diamonds for the contractor

he wants like 15

[leaden whale]

@frank mountain gems or diamonds?

[frank mountain]

it looks like a diamond

i'm assuming it's a diamond

[leaden whale]

Colored or white?

[dusty vault]

killing the hydra with each weapon for the first time gives a diamond, after that use prophecies/4th area shop

[leaden whale]

Like, does it have multiple colors or one color

[frank mountain]

4th area?

[dusty vault]

and after beating a run you unlock the main way to get more boss only resources

[dusty vault]

after elysium

[frank mountain]

ah

unfortunate that i died

[dusty vault]

truly unfortunate

[grave storm]

||Full heart with any 6, except Demeter who "counts" at the locked one||

[frank mountain]

what should i choose for shield

oh wait nevermind

the others are bad

[dusty vault]

spoiler mark btw

[grave storm]

Base shield doom attack

welp

[leaden whale]

I don't like doom LMAO, it's slow and it procs once

[dusty vault]

thats what merciful end is for

[leaden whale]

You have to hope that you get it LMAO

[frank mountain]

i feel like thanatos is not a good guy

i just entered sisyphus (?) room and he's like 'no you can't help him'

[leaden whale]

@frank mountain what weapon are you using now?

[frank mountain]

shield

definitely my best one

[leaden whale]

Same

Shield is my best weapon but not my favorite weapon LMAO

[frank mountain]

best = favorite for me

[leaden whale]

Favorite = fun to use LMAO

[grave storm]

It's slow which makes it good for the shield's relatively slow attack cycle

[frank mountain]

best = fun to use

[grave storm]

You're not getting more than 3 stacks anyway

[dusty vault]

iirc is cus he trapped Than? and cheated death and all of that

[leaden whale]

Yeah, depends on which doom feels good so it's true, I just like fast hitting weapons and boons that compliment that playstyle like Zeus and artemis

[frank mountain]

someone earier was like 'he's trying to help you escape'

[grave storm]

Trapped Than and scammed Persephone

[leaden whale]

I had a spear that hit for 1174 bc of crit and increased base damage of the spear

It was so broken

Base damage was 300+ ish

[frank mountain]

dang

[leaden whale]

Broken spear

[frank mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[leaden whale]

HAHAHAAH

[frank mountain]

what does duo mean

[dusty vault]

boons that appear when you have boons from 2 gods

[frank mountain]

are they good

like should i select it

[leaden whale]

@frank mountain depends

[frank mountain]

parting shot

[leaden whale]

What's the boon being offered?

[frank mountain]

i can do parting shot, athena's aid, or divine flourish

[leaden whale]

OH YEAH, APHRODITE AND ARTEMIS BOON LETS GO

Wait

[dusty vault]

parting shot isnt that good

good selling folder

[leaden whale]

Wrong boon LMAO

[frank mountain]

i should get it and sell it?

i can definitely do that

[leaden whale]

Parting shot for the money and prophecy

[dusty vault]

if you dont want the call/special

also yeah prophecies is neat

[frank mountain]

it's actually not a prophecy thing

[dusty vault]

have you gotten other duos?

[frank mountain]

i might not have that prophecy unlocked

no

ah there we go foretold

[dusty vault]

picking it should make it appear then probably

[frank mountain]

mhm

is artemis or a centaur heart better

can't afford both

i'm gonna go with artemis

oh hydra time

[leaden whale]

LESS GOOOOOO

[frank mountain]

hydra got annihilated

[leaden whale]

What's the boons you got so far?

[frank mountain]

one sec ma

map

divine strike and dash for abilities

ferocious guard

roiling strike

dying lament

blinding flash

greater haste

parting shot

caustic lunge

and a lucky tooth

and i just got swift strike

[leaden whale]

I don't memorize the names for most of it but I'll look through the wiki HAHAAH

[frank mountain]

oh my bad

[worn umbra]

hey guys

[frank mountain]

one sec

[worn umbra]

how do duo boons work

[leaden whale]

I only memorize the stats

[frank mountain]

i deal more damage

[worn umbra]

because i have both but they don't show as duo

[frank mountain]

deflect with attack and dash

[worn umbra]

it's weird af

[frank mountain]

do extra damage on deflect

attack and move faster

[leaden whale]

@worn umbra for duos, you need to get tier 1 boons and not tier 2

[worn umbra]

sorry what does that mean?

for example

now i have frost strike and flood shot

[leaden whale]

Tier ones affect your specials, attacks, dashes, casts and calls

Tier two are more supportive boons

[grave storm]

Some duos need tier 2

[leaden whale]

Oh right, Zeus and ares

[frank mountain]

zeus or aphrodite?

[worn umbra]

i checked the codex and it says that those 2 boons i have are duos

[frank mountain]

who should i choose

[worn umbra]

but when i picked the last boon which was supposed to duo it didn't say

idk if i'm making any sense lol

[frank mountain]

eh zeus sucks

WAIT WHAT ASTERIuS

UH

[dusty vault]

zeus is strong, maybe not so much on shield

[frank mountain]

ok i'm fighting asterius

alone

[dusty vault]

unless zeus call + smoldering air lol

[frank mountain]

why

uh

[dusty vault]

he is one of the midboss

[frank mountain]

is this the boss of elesium

oh ok

[dusty vault]

him or B.ball

[frank mountain]

LMAO I LITERALLY NO HIT HIM

AHAHAHAHA

[leaden whale]

Wait, you won or lost?

[frank mountain]

AIGHT I'M FEELING GOOD ABOUT THIS ATTEMPT

DIDN'T GET HIT oNCE

[leaden whale]

OH DAMN, HELL YEAH

[frank mountain]

HA

AIGHT SO THE FINAL BOSS

I"M PREPARED FOR THIS SHI

[tight zealot]

Have you beat the final boss yet?

[frank mountain]

NO

oh and by final i mean theseus

[viscid notch]

[frank mountain]

not the final final boss whoever that is

[viscid notch]

Progress is progress

So kick his ass

[frank mountain]

THATS THE PLAN WHOOO

AND I GOT A THIRD DEATH DEFIANCE FROM THE WEIRD GUY

AND I GOT A HAMMER UP NEXT

dude i'm so prepared

i'm gonna kick theseus' ass

50% more dash strike damage

BOSS TIME

GOTTEM

only died once POG

[leaden whale]

How many death defiances do you have left?

[frank mountain]

2

:DDDDDD

[leaden whale]

pretty proud of this one killed the final boss with barely getting hit 😄 i love the hera bow

[frank mountain]

the temple of styx

ooh

[tight zealot]

I love how when I started this current run im on I intended for it to be a farming run where I would get just get prophecies done and stuff like that but I end up getting the best kit i've ever had 😭

[frank mountain]

ohh so i have to go through the tunnes

is it just random which ones are good

[tight zealot]

Yes

You just gotta get lucky

[last silo]

So, ||I got the "knowing bond" from Athena|| and it doesn't really say anything about what it is, just that I got it. Does that do anything?

[grave storm]

there's no gameplay effect

you get a chibi on the keepsake

[last silo]

That's epic

[viscid notch]

Spoiler that

[frank mountain]

what

[last silo]

Do not speak his name here

[viscid notch]

gud

[frank mountain]

what

[viscid notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901889174884466698.gif?size=44

[bright sun]

good luck

[frank mountain]

OH

OK THEN

UH

ADVICE

[viscid notch]

Dont die

[frank mountain]

just spoiler tag everything

[last silo]

Be good at video games

[frank mountain]

bruh

[last silo]

Press more buttons

[frank mountain]

i've still got two defiances

[tight zealot]

Use this first battle to take it's attack sequences and patterns into mind

Analyze how the final boss attacks and when it does

Find pockets where you can deal damage to it

You probably won't beat it first try, I know I didn't

[viscid notch]

@frank mountain read this

[frank mountain]

OH I DID IT

PROBABLY

NEVERMIND

[last silo]

Gottem

[viscid notch]

Lmao

[tight zealot]

Lol

Baited

Happens to the best of us

[frank mountain]

I've still got both defiances left tho

NEVERMIND

NONE LEFT

NOOOOOOO

damn i died

[leaden whale]

@frank mountain who did you die to? Spoiler tag it

[frank mountain]

that is SO SAD

[frank mountain]

||hades||

||got him to half health second phase||

[leaden whale]

||Goddamn, yeah, it's a tough fight||

[frank mountain]

||i did the first phase without dying||

[last silo]

Surprising
I had a rougher time

[leaden whale]

||second is rougher tbf||

[tight zealot]

Yeah my first time I died ||before I got to second phase||

[frank mountain]

fair enough

||i got destroyed in second tho i got him to half health with two defiances xd||

also qq

what does ambrosia do

[bright sun]

Yeah me too

[bright sun]

Better nectar

For relationships

[frank mountain]

how do i use it

[bright sun]

Npcs will get to a point where they don't accept nectar anymore

Just progress trough the story and gift nectar to everyone

[frank mountain]

ah

[last silo]

Zag reminds me of papyrus giving Undyne bones every 5 seconds.

[frank mountain]

hA

[last silo]

and

[frank mountain]

damn 58 chambers

that was a great attempt

so sad i died

that took 30 minutes xd

[restive portal]

Good job on getting to final boss. Personally I find part 2 easier but head over to #h1-discussion to talk about that without spoilers.

[leaden whale]

Honestly I have only opened like a couple of spoilers accidentally and got to know what the final boss is, though tbh it does make sense if you think about it, so it's not a big deal

[viscid notch]

It might not be a big deal but it's the channel rules

[leaden whale]

Yeah

Still should be kept in spoilers

Should be glad it's not separated for even more channels because of spoilers lmao

Because I know a couple of game server which do that

And it's pretty inconvenient at times

Or confusing

[elder ice]

Any advice to dealing with the elite butterfly spawner and all the armoured warrior guys? I always get overwhelmed and lose a death defiance in that fight

[pseudo narwhal]

I would say to just focus the butterfly ball, bc if you spend your time killing the warriors they'll just respawn

they don't stop until you kill the butterfly ball

however, if you see a really easy to kill warrior about to spawn, might as well

[elder ice]

I try to do that then I'm left with a nigh impossible number of warriors for someone of my skill to beat

[pseudo narwhal]

that's fair, but if you focus on killing them one by one they'll just keep spawning until you cut off the source

try and oneshot the butterfly ball

[elder ice]

oneshot the ball??

How do I manage that haha

it has so much hp

[pseudo narwhal]

i don't have much experience with other weapons but i use a really powerful bow aspect so i just focus it all at the start lol

ok maybe not oneshot but try to kill the ball

then weave and dodge attacks using the terrain in the room

and take it slow once I kill the ball

u*

you don't have to rush and kill them and lose your hp just try to play safe

[icy bolt]

||You'll need a companion for that basically||

||I'd suggest gifting meg nectar until she lets you to give her an ambrosia. Just make sure to unlock important keepsakes of other gods. Then put all your ambrosia into the companion since it can get pretty expensive.||

[cloud jewel]

How does Megaera telegraph when she's going to do her various attacks, particularly the one where she whips everywhere around herself?

[icy bolt]

she sort of just, sits in one place with a big windup

i suggest doing a hit then back off

[elder ice]

are these actually spoilers or...

[icy bolt]

they are, because most players don't get to this phase of the game until later

[elder ice]

I will leave that tagged then

I've only been to the final boss once so far

or who I assume to be the final boss I suppose, it wouldn't surprise me if there's more

[icy bolt]

I mean

we can go to another channel

and tell you what I said there

you reached the last boss

so I can tell you

it can help you a lot in your runs

or you can just reveal the tag

[elder ice]

I... see

I think I'm a long way off doing that

only have half the keepsakes unlocked, if not less

So I will continue to have my ass handed to me in Elysium for now, as is protocol

[icy bolt]

if you have meg's, zeus, poseidon, ares, artemis, it's fine

but keep collecting the other keepsakes as well

[elder ice]

I think I only have artemis' out of them

[icy bolt]

then give nectar to everyone in order basically

just don't give more than one to god's you already gifted

that's only useful for the thing I put into the spoiler

[elder ice]

me, giving 3 to Sisyphus because he's cool

[leaden whale]

I'd give infinite to Aphrodite because generic simp smh

But also Chaos because Chaos is based

[elder ice]

Chaos gave me a -move speed curse and then promptly made me face the minotaur

and to be honest I just got outplayed, I can't even be mad

[rich osprey]

an inevitably

[elder ice]

something something slow and insidious

[leaden whale]

Chaos might not be a good idea before bosses you still find tough so yeah

[elder ice]

Ah ha! But consider.

Numbers go up.

Monke brain happy.

[restive portal]

I gave myself -60% dash and -60% speed with 2 nearly back to back chaos gates just now

No boss though

[heady skiff]

Zeus attack on fists feels so strong with their speed

[restive portal]

That's because it is

[heady skiff]

What would be something good for the special?

[gray haven]

Heartbreak Flourish.

Deadly Flourish.

[heady skiff]

So basically non-stacking debuffs or pure buffs

Ty

[restive portal]

Bit of both

[heady skiff]

You mean they are boons that increase special's damage by a lot? I see. Still it makes sense to also want a 1-stack debuffs like aphrodie, since ur not spamming specil

[rich osprey]

aphro has best damage increase ye and also weak is rad

[restive portal]

And Zeus is perfect for fast weapons as there's no cool down on attack.

[heady skiff]

Im playing with the aspect of demeter which I suppose requires another type of build, but its only level 1 so i dont think it matters

[restive portal]

??

[tight zealot]

Does the acorn charm apply to the final boss

[polar finch]

priv status is unnecessary and weak is good regardless

[polar finch]

yes. works in any main boss room

[restive portal]

It's additive

[polar finch]

its much stronger than bronze skin

[polar finch]

its not

[viscid notch]

Multiplicative

[polar finch]

thats dodge

[restive portal]

I thought you added multipliers and then multiply once at the end

[polar finch]

30% damage reduction is pretty large

not for dmg reduction

[restive portal]

An okay

[polar finch]

otherwise 100% dmg reduction would be very easy to get to

[restive portal]

True

But they could always cap it, like crit chance

Or am I thinking of dodge chance

[polar finch]

uh neither

[icy bolt]

Damage reduction becomes pointless at a certain phase into the game. Because you don't want to get hit

So you'd rather take other stuff

[viscid notch]

That's not correct

[polar finch]

weak is still very useful* late game

[icy bolt]

Between dmg reduction and not getting hit

I choose not getting hit

[polar finch]

being able to tank 4 hits instead of 3 hits is very useful

[viscid notch]

You choose that but you cant actively do that

[icy bolt]

Aphro boons are good for the dmg part of them

[restive portal]

Good luck with that as you up the heat

I think it's very strong for some aspects

Aphrodite on sword hidden aspect is stonks

[polar finch]

aphrodite is pretty strong on almost any aspect

[rich osprey]

if you get hit a bunch it's not gonna matter if you have weak applied or not but that doesn't mean it's useless

[restive portal]

You could even say ... It's godlike 😎

[icy bolt]

I want to give you the bear naked truth

I agree

I meant Aphrodite, because she's not wearing clot- nvm

Imagine Aphrodite, with drip

Full hypebeast

Nyx is probably my favourite female character in the game

Then it's Meg

Nyx is just... 😳

Dusa is the embodiment of social anxiety

It reminds me of myself a few years ago

And I don't like it

She is a sweetheart though

[leaden whale]

People who disabled numeric display in settings: I don't have such weaknesses

The true gigachads smh

[leaden whale]

I can't decide between or Aphrodite ngl

[knotty rune]

dusa is for holding gently like hamburger

[sharp wyvern]

how do i unlock the ||shield of beowulf ||i have put 5 blood into shield

[grave storm]

you need to spoiler the name here
talk to Chaos

[viscid notch]

Read pins in #h1-story-discussion also Spoiler the name

[ionic light]

Hey what does it mean "shot is easier to execute"?

[rich osprey]

it flashes for longer

[dusk wraith]

hello. is it normal to have slight delay on my dash while zag is attacking using the spear? it doesn't happen when i use the gun.

[leaden whale]

hmm guys

crystal beam + aspect of hera

i'm i onto something or it's garbage got the choice rn

[grave storm]

has a niche with cold embrace, but not much advantage over regular crystal beam builds

[leaden whale]

does ravenous will give 20% dmg buff if you load the crystals to your bow

or do you have to shoot them for it to give you

[grave storm]

if you load all of them you get the buff. I think.

[dusty vault]

If it says 0 on cadt amount buff applies

[shrewd current]

Get weapons unlocked or unlock mirror upgrades

i have 10 keys

[slow ferry]

mirror will make your runs stronger if you have the darkness

weapons will make your runs more varied

[shrewd current]

i have 750 in total.

[slow ferry]

depends on what you want, really

[shrewd current]

I save scummed to check what the keys unlocked

didn't seem that good of upgrades so looks like ill be getting the weapons

should unlock all weapons first i guess and see what the titan blood thing does

[leaden whale]

god I miss meg

[viscid notch]

The second option, also spoiler ||Heat|| in this channel

[pure pilot]

You only have access to the next ||heat ||level. If you have beaten up to ||heat ||2 for example, you will work on ||heat ||3 in the next run, until you have beaten it. For this you need to put at least 3. If you put more, it will still count as 3.

[quick pewter]

okok

[shrewd current]

got to elysium after 20 runs

unlocked all the weapons too.

although i only got the first upgrade for the mirror

5 key one.

what aspect should i get

i have 5 titan blood

i tried all the weapons with meg

although died with the Twin Fist cuz i was rushing and spamming hits

[broken kestrel]

zag bow is pretty good cause of crits

[restive portal]

Get minimum or +1 Chiron bow and use Dionysus on it for best effect.

[shrewd current]

to stack drunk state?

[restive portal]

Yup

It normally maxes out at 5 stacks

So Chiron with 4 or 5 special arrows is fine

[shrewd current]

will try that out i guess

[restive portal]

You get max hangover on stuff and this builds your call very fast

Then add Aphrodite attack and look for their duo

[shrewd current]

i will just save scum in the training area and try the attacks on skelly

for different aspects

[restive portal]

You can't get a feel for Dio that way

[shrewd current]

whos dio btw

[restive portal]

Dionysus

God of wine and grape

[shrewd current]

oh

[restive portal]

Did you know you can unlock an aspect, start a run immediately and then "give up" to go back to the courtyard without it unlocked

Just don't go into the house after unlocking the aspect as this will save

[shrewd current]

doesn't it save when you start a run

i know about save scumming.

[restive portal]

So you can test Dio by using his keepsake

Nope

[shrewd current]

don't have his keepsake

does anyone else work

[restive portal]

The hall between courtyard and house is the save trigger

On Chiron, Dio is best

[shrewd current]

I'll get his namesake first then i guess.

cya later off to a run to get it

[restive portal]

Aphrodite on special is good but I'd just use Zag bow for that until you can unlock more levels in Chiron

Good luck

[elder ice]

okay so I have a special for my gun that causes it to rapid fire 3 mortars instead of 1

does the hammer that makes it a rocket override this, or do they work together

[viscid notch]

They work together so you can fire 3 rockets

[elder ice]

that's what I wanted to hear

[viscid notch]

Better if you have Cluster Bomb instead

[elder ice]

I did find that earlier but I chose the triple shot

[shrewd current]

really like the good riddance song we encounter in the game

Had to download it and listen to it on repeat for a few days

[leaden whale]

check out other lyric songs by supergiant

esp from transistor

if you still haven't

[shrewd current]

I'll i guess.

[stone ether]

So on run 26 I made it to ||Hades|| depleted his health and made it 1/3 through ||phase two|| is that like on pace for where I should be

[broken kestrel]

you're doing better than I did

[stone ether]

also unrelated what is the furies battle theme titled

[pearl silo]

Just curious, was thinking of buying this game and was wondering what genre this actually falls in?

[broken kestrel]

roguelite

[stone ether]

Rougelike dungeon crawler

[broken kestrel]

https://youtu.be/vqKoFKVxTYM

[stone ether]

Painful way got it

[leaden whale]

buy it, no regrets

[turbid stag]

the boss fight theme starts like 2-3 min into the song just fyi

[vernal roost]

Do I need to have bought the Aspect of Guan Yu to be able to unlock other Hidden Aspects or just unlocking it is enough?

[cinder tartan]

no you dont need to buy it

[vernal roost]

Great! Ty

[vernal roost]

As soon as I bought my last Mirror upgrade (the one that cost 30 Chthonic Keys), they're kinda useless from now on no?

(Yes I bought all weapons)

[rich osprey]

other than persuasion rerolls and trading yeah basically

[vernal roost]

By persuasion rerolls you mean the upgrade to get a die from obtaining a key?

[drifting thicket]

i have a question about cast, i dont really know how to use it (but i know what it does, i just dont use it), and i know that there are boons to make them better and have gotten some of the gods' boons for that, and i want to know which boon for the cast is the easiest to use

[rich osprey]

phalanx shot (athena) is p good, good damage in a little aoe and provides a pocket of safety from projectiles and attacks for you to close in, esp good with close range weapons

zeus cast is good all around for a little crowd control and damage, esp with jolted from static discharge

i would get in the habit of using your cast often to lodge bloodstones in enemies for a damage bonus from boiling blood, a mirror upgrade

[drifting thicket]

thank you :D

[alpine ridge]

Artemis cast is probably the easiest to use because it homes into enemies

well, most of them home in a little, but artemis homes in really hard

[gray haven]

It's also single-target and relatively low damage, though.

It's easy to aim but not necessarily the easiest to make good use of.

[worthy root]

hi, anyone would recommend a guide or a youtube channel to learn more about the game?

[uneven sun]

what is the purpose of ambrosia?

[uneven sun]

I recommend Jawless paul

[viscid notch]

Improving relationship with NPCs and ||levelling companions||, although it takes a while to do both those things

[uneven sun]

I already reached the locked heart on certain character, when will I use ambrosia? i usually just use nectar

[viscid notch]

You have to do a quest for each of the NPCs to unlock their locked hearts

[uneven sun]

Ok thanks

[valid shoal]

Can I get a hint on where to start to learn to play the ||lyre|| please?

[viscid notch]

It's in Zag's room, you just have to press the thing

[valid shoal]

Oh so the quest is mostly buying the thing

[viscid notch]

Well it's mostly pressing the thing because you have to do it like 200 times

[valid shoal]

I will be here clicking for quite a while then

[viscid notch]

Yea it takes a while if you wanna do it in one go

I go to it by pressing it a few times between runs

[eternal spade]

hello people, how can i exchange mementos during a run?

[grave storm]

beat a boss and you can do it in the next room, provided you bought the regional keepsake collection

[eternal spade]

Thx. How can i buy this collection? so there is no other possibility? For example i start with one and next room another.

[restive portal]

Not possible

[viscid notch]

It's only between biomes

Not between rooms

The upgrade for that is from the contractor

[restive portal]

And with some keepsakes if you take them off you lose the benefit. E.g. losing the extra death defiance from Skelly or the damage bonus from Thanatos.

[eternal spade]

I am aware of that. Thanks for the quick responses! Sry about the stupid question...which contractor do Mike means?

[grave storm]

the skinny guy to the right of hades wearing a construction hat

[leaden whale]

So the best usage of it is trying to abuse the ones which give a one time effect like from Hypnos? I mean I already tried doing it but unsure of how useful it actually is
And ig skelly's bonuses if you do end up dying, although you could also just restore all of them if you end up meeting that npc in elysium

[eternal spade]

Ok have looked at him. I can only do renovation work at the moment. No regional keepsake collection.

[grave storm]

hm it should be really early?

https://youtu.be/IwjuGruSjGk

[eternal spade]

What do u mean. (Sry, my english is not the best 😅) have beat the second boss

[grave storm]

1.57 in the video is where it is

Like you should be able to buy it pretty early

obligatory "if you play in chinese, I can switch to that"

[eternal spade]

Ah ok. This i'll try. Thank u bro! Chinese wouldn't be helpful. I'm german. 😅

[grave storm]

yeah look under the leftmost tab, you should be buying those first anyway

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867888481324761108/929049680522919996/Screenshot_20220107-113106_YouTube.jpg

This one

[eternal spade]

Thx again!

[grave storm]

The most popular ones are the one time keepsakes yeah, specifically the ones that gods give you, since they let you control your build. Hypnos is pretty good if your build is done, and you don't need something defensive. Good passive keepsakes are Charon, Eurydice, Pat, Skelly, and Cerb for early on

[leaden whale]

nice I see

I thought eury wasn't that useful though?
it's for the boss rooms right

well i guess can't judge since haven't tried

[grave storm]

yeah it's good for bosses

[leaden whale]

🤨

[grave storm]

Esp ones that do a lot of dmg

[misty fractal]

It was only second time I had reaching him

[leaden whale]

I think this should go spoilered

[misty fractal]

oh 👀

sorry

[leaden whale]

or in #h1-discussion ig

[misty fractal]

I had a really good spear build

[spice tusk]

It's terrific. Every time I have it on I realize mid-fight I have yet to take a point of damage.

[misty fractal]

With Athena attack and the Flurry + Range Extend

[leaden whale]

lmao

I'll give it a shot then

[misty fractal]

Acorn?

👀

[spice tusk]

Yeah

Naturally it doesn't do anything if you're not having issues downing bosses, but it's deceivingly good IMO.

[misty fractal]

Interesting 👀

need to level it then

Elysium bosses are pretty hard

[leaden whale]

although I'm currently stuck on the 3rd boss(es) and it doesn't seem to be that useful for someone as inexperienced as me lmao

[misty fractal]

Yea I hate Theseus

always kills me

[leaden whale]

the problem is more of trying to deal damage rather than dodging

[misty fractal]

I try to focus down Asterius first just hiding behind the pillars

[leaden whale]

I remember the last time I was dashing for like 20 seconds or more staying on 4 hp after he called for help and I had no idea how I survived for that long lmao

[spice tusk]

the sacred art of panic dashing

[misty fractal]

Theseus spears do a big chunk of dmg

[leaden whale]

I already figured how theseus attacks but not how to approach him

[valid shoal]

When you see a target on zagreus put a pillar between you and thesues. Try to get to the other side of him, his shield is very pesky otherwise. Watch out if he gets to half health and asteroid is still alive, then you have a lot of stuff to dodge

[leaden whale]

lmao yeah

[misty fractal]

When he throws a spear he turns around

so you can hit him in the back

[gray haven]

Evergreen Acorn is the best tank keepsake for the third and fourth biomes. If you have difficulty beating those bosses, definitely take the Acorn.

[leaden whale]

getting some backstabs huh

[misty fractal]

but its pretty jard when Asterius is walloping you

so I try to kill him first

[spice tusk]

later on just ignore mechanics, round 'em up and full nuke

[misty fractal]

Athena Spear with flurry makes Theseus pretty easy 1v1 just stand in front of him.holding down attack since you auto deflect his spears 👀

Then when he walks away you poke him a lot in the back

You just attack so fast that theres a big deflect wall in front of you

[gray haven]

His spin attack isn't deflectable, though.

[misty fractal]

Oh true

gotta dash behind him for that one

it just feels so good deflecting the Archers and Shield guy's attacks. And the suicide chariot explosions

[gray haven]

Yeah, I used to run Divine Strike on the Twin Fists all the time in Early Access.

[leaden whale]

ok so kind of an expected question to ask, but what good stuff should I prefer when meeting eurydice?

[gray haven]

The most experienced players take Refreshing Nectar like probably 95+ % of the time nowadays.

Mainly for better rarity on Lord Hermes boons (which you're very likely to see very soon after Eurydice) and better duo/legendary chance.

[grave storm]

(that's the +rarity on next 3 boons btw)

[leaden whale]

but early on you could take something different?

[gray haven]

It was more of a "good players do this because we've noticed it's usually the best option" rather than "only do this if you're good" lol.

Strong builds also typically take one god keepsake into Tartarus and another god keepsake into Asphodel to get the crucial boons for the build from those two gods and then typically their Duo Boon or either of their legendaries... which means you'll still have the god keepsake in Asphodel when you take her Refreshing Nectar. So you get the better rarity and duo/legendary chance from the keepsake for that particular god and also from Refreshing Nectar.

Excellent odds for getting duo boons that way.

Odds for getting rare or higher from Lord Hermes for any of his boons is normally only 9% (6% that it's rare and 3% that it's epic). So if you can guarantee that his boons are at least rare, that's huge.

Especially because some of his boons are so much better at high rarity.

Like +2 dashes is so much better than +1 dash.

Ambrosia Delight (2 random boons are upgraded in rarity) Is great if you a low number of boons and at least one but ideally multiple have great rarity scaling and/or can only be upgraded through rarity (i.e., not with poms). So for example... if you have 3-4 boons and one of them is Greatest Reflex (i.e., more dashes), taking Ambrosia Delight for a chance to get even more dashes could be a great choice. Bit of a gamble, but if you have any other boons that at least scale well with rarity, it can be worth it.

Pom Porridge (4 random boons get +1 level) is great if you have at least 3-4 boons that all have excellent pom scaling.

The situations for Ambrosia Delight and Pom Porridge to really shine are quite rare compared to Refreshing Nectar just always having great value. So when in doubt, I'd suggest taking Refreshing Nectar.

[leaden whale]

god damnit I almost defeated theseus

that was tense

everything prior was like a stroll too lmao

[elder ice]

oh I have a question about this actually, does ambrosia delight have a cap to how high it upgrades? Correct me if I'm wrong but Epic isn't the highest tier of boon, I took the delight when I only had 2 boons and it remained Epic.

or am I missing something else, like needing to unlock legendary boons first

[viscid notch]

Heroic is the highest tier

Comes right after Epic

[elder ice]

Oh right

well either way, it stayed epic

[gray haven]

Also, Duo and Legendary boons can't be upgraded.

Ambrosia Delight can't affect Chaos boons, so maybe it was that?

[elder ice]

I'm 99% sure it was just a regular boon, but I didn't screenshot it so you might be right

[gray haven]

If it was something else, you most likely just misremembered. Like thought it was epic when it was actually rare before.

[viscid notch]

Or maybe you misclicked something other than Ambrosia

[elder ice]

It was probably just a chaos boon then, I'm certain I received it as an Epic

[leaden whale]

that spear upgrade which made it do triple dash-strikes was pretty damn good too ngl
I assume it's one of the priority upgrades?

[elder ice]

nah my other boon became rare

good to know chaos boons aren't affected then

[viscid notch]

It's an okay hammer, the -dash distance is the downside of it

[gray haven]

"Priority upgrades" refers to something specific in Hades, so be careful with that term.

Serrated Point is pretty great, though, on base spear. Flurry Jab is ideal. Exploding Launcher is also pretty good.

The others... also exist.

[leaden whale]

oh lol didn't know

I'll keep that in mind

[leaden whale]

also exist = trash not really worth?

[gray haven]

Pretty much, just something you cope with.

[grave storm]

is the bouncing special one any good

[gray haven]

Well, the spin hammers can be alright, but they prevent you from picking up Flurry Jab later, so it's typically a more effective strategy to avoid the spin hammers just to have a chance at that...

Priority upgrades or more commonly called priority boons are any boons that go into your Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash slot. If all four slots are still empty, a boon you pick up will always offer 3 of those 4 boons. If at least one of them is filled, there's a 10% chance you'll see an exchange for any of them. If you don't get an exchange, you'll 100% see one boon for one of the empty slots.

[leaden whale]

marvelous info

[gray haven]

PriorityUpgrades is the name in the game's scripts, and priority boons is the community name.

Core boons is the community name for those 4 boons + Call. Some players mean only the 4 priority boons when they say "core boons", but we've originally used "core boons" for all 5 slots long before we figured out how the priority works, so that just makes it kind of confusing tbh. But it is what it is.

[lapis parcel]

Hi, started playing couple days ago, any tips for theasus and the minotaur?

[gray haven]

Take the Evergreen Acorn into Elysium, that'll help a lot.

Keep working on your builds and upgrade your mirror, get better at the areas before the fight, so you can get into the fight with more HP and more DDs.

[lapis parcel]

Nice thank you! How do I get the acorn?

[gray haven]

Give Nectar to a certain lady in Asphodel.

Not going into weapon/aspect specifics... the easiest build I've found for new players is starting with the for Heartbreak Strike or Flourish to get Weak asap, then switch to the Owl Pendant in Asphodel to get Divine Dash. And just generally double down on damage reduction, more dashes (for i-frames), dodge chance, Centaur Hearts for HP... anything that'll help you survive.

[lapis parcel]

Ok thank you, ill look out for the lady in Asphodel and look for those keepsakes and items. Ty

[gray haven]

Only if you take the rail, you'd really want Lightning Strike or Drunken Strike start instead. But it works very well on all the other weapons.

[lapis parcel]

Kk

[gray haven]

If you happen to see Tidal Dash from Poseidon before you see Divine Dash, take that instead and then put pretty much all your poms into Tidal Dash. It's very powerful.

Except on Malphon... it'll keep knocking enemies out of your Attack range on that lol.

He also has some great tier 2 boons when you have Tidal Dash: Breaking Wave, Razor Shoals, Wave Pounding, and Typhoon's Fury. When in doubt, you can just pick whichever has the better rarity out of those four.

[grave storm]

If you get tidal dash you can also go into dash only builds

run enemies into walls for wall slam

[lapis parcel]

Kk thanks

[spice tusk]

Poseidon dash with rupture and Zeus attack with jolt is one of my favourite builds that's relatively easy to start setting up from the beginning

[leaden whale]

ok so I finally made it past theseus and ended up dying immediately to ||the second phase of|| the last boss
flurry jab is indeed very sweet, charge spin isn't that useful anyway

[gray haven]

Nice!

[leaden whale]

honestly expected 4th chamber to be something different but it's unique at least

interesting mechanics there

[gray haven]

I'd suggest taking the miniboss tunnels first there.

[leaden whale]

I took the apparently easier one first

[spice tusk]

I'm maybe 200-300 runs in and just now am I realizing the miniboss tunnels are the easy ones

[leaden whale]

then other basic ones and finally the one hardest

thicc rat

[gray haven]

The miniboss fights are more predictable, can be over a lot faster, and you'll get higher rarity boons or double rewards (i.e., double pom, +50 HP, etc.).

[leaden whale]

true

saved all the money for hermer boon in the shop and it ended up being meh lmao

[gray haven]

What did he offer?

[leaden whale]

probably didn't matter much but double pom seemed like the choice

[elder ice]

how many hammers can you find in a run?

[spice tusk]

I prioritize the poms at the end store

[leaden whale]

I don't really remember, but nothing too special I think

i think I picked the one with the 20% to... avoid an attack, I presume?

[gray haven]

You can pick up two hammers. You can see more if you skip hammers, but after you pick up the second, you won't see another. And there's a 50% to chance to see an Anvil in the final shop. The Anvil will remove one hammer upgrade randomly and give you two random hammer upgrades for it. So you can get three upgrades through the Anvil.

[elder ice]

that's what I thought, thank you

[gray haven]

20% Dodge Chance is pretty good.

[elder ice]

I've only ever seen 2 but I was just checking anyway

[gray haven]

The second hammer can't show up until Elysium, by the way.

[elder ice]

eh?

I got a second hammer in elysium

First one gave me triple mortar, second one in the first room of elysium gave me rockets

[leaden whale]

didn't seem to do anything significant in the last encounter although I could have missed it due to the focus on attacks and not received damage

[gray haven]

Yeah, you usually get the first hammer in Tartarus (unless you skip it) and then the second hammer in Elysium.

[leaden whale]

got overwhelmed quite a ton either way

[elder ice]

Ohhh sorry

I misread

thought you said 'can't show up in Elysium'

[leaden whale]

but think I figured most of the attacks ||on the first phase?||

would come in handy to know what to expect later I suppose

[gray haven]

Well, 20% dodge chance on its own is effectively +25% HP. So that's pretty good. If you already have dodge chance or damage reduction from elsewhere, it's even more than that.

[leaden whale]

true that

I got confused by the description too
at first

so never bothered picking the 10% one

[gray haven]

Also Dodge chance stacks additively, which is pretty great. You can actually reach 100% Dodge chance lol.

[leaden whale]

but guess it's just the good old dodge

[leaden whale]

lmao what

does that mean you're immortal then?

[gray haven]

Pretty much.

[leaden whale]

fair and balanced :troll:

[gray haven]

It will normally require at least either Ruthless Reflex or Second Wind, which are both temporary. But you can keep up Second Wind pretty much 100% of the time if you also get Smoldering Air.

Second Wind lasts for 6 seconds after you use your Call. Smoldering Air charges your lesser Call in 5 seconds lol.

[gray haven]

Well, it takes some luck to get all of what you need. Easier to do with the Zagreus Aspect of Malphon because that gives you +15% Dodge chance from the start.

But even "only" 80~90% Dodge chance is very powerful.

[leaden whale]

yeah it really is

the more the merrier, as per usual

[gray haven]

You'd also take the Lambent Plume for the full run. That means you can't take the or the Thunder Signet to help you get Smoldering Air... so it requires some good luck to get both gods in your pool while also getting those Lambent Plume procs, which requires some basic skill/experience at least to clear encounters fast enough.

But it's a lot of fun and always at least decent.

[leaden whale]

oh so even then this immortality isn't permanent? sounds fair

[gray haven]

It can be if you get Smoldering Air and Second Wind. Well, once you've activated your Call, which takes a bit to charge at the start of the fight, but after that, you'll have Second Wind up 100% of the time easily.

Technically, you can also get Proud Bearing to start with 25% god gauge and have a Call right away at the start of the fight.

But you can already see, a lot of pieces need to fall into place to get the perfect dodge build lol.

[leaden whale]

I'm frankly in love with how balanced Hades seems to be even though I haven't even beaten it and seen what other good stuff it has to offer, well it has to be good, right?

[spice tusk]

I think Hades dodges the thing I really hate with some roguelites like Slay the Spire, where the run can feel hopeless from the beginning.

[gray haven]

You can make up for any bad luck or bad decisions with action skill, yeah. In Slay the Spire, you can have a deck that works perfectly fine for every single battle, and then 40+ minutes into your run, you get a boss that hard-counters your deck.

But in Hades, you always know you could have made up for bad decisions by just playing better, pretty much.

[spice tusk]

With Slay the Spire, it feels like you have a few avenues to go down in the beginning and if you pick the wrong one you end up with a dysfunctional pile of garbage. It doesn't feel the same in Hades, you can be suboptimal yet still feel like it's doable.

[gray haven]

Yep!

[viscid notch]

[proud river]

hello there

[gray haven]

Well, I wouldn't say "dumb", but yeah lol.

[proud river]

should I go to #h1-builds-and-combat to discuss weapon aspects?

[gray haven]

Hi!

You can do that here just fine if you want to avoid spoilers.

[proud river]

||I've gotten to Persephone in terms of progression, will I be fine there?||

[gray haven]

Hmmm. There are still some potential spoilers. What did you want to ask about anyway?

[proud river]

how to get the ||aspect of Gilgamesh for the fists of malphon||

[gray haven]

Oh. Requirements for each of the hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion. This link will take you right to the pinned message: #h1-story-discussion message

[sick gorge]

Query: are there benefits to giving people nectar more than once?

And if so, who is beneficial to start giving more nectar to first?

[viscid notch]

It’s for story progression, there are a few that have a special item they can give you if you keep improving your relationship with them, those being: ||Thanatos Meg Skelly Dusa Achilles||

[sick gorge]

Thank you sir, I figured it was largely story progression. Appreciate it.

[waxen reef]

see those little arrows/pings on the boons and items. what does that mean

stubborn roots has the little arrow

[viscid notch]

Victory screens are a spoiler in this channel, the arrows next to boons indicate the ones shown in details at this victory screen, you can also click on them to toggle them off and show other boons instead

You could say it’s for highlighting boons that you wanna show, that’s basically it

[leaden whale]

Finally a better reason to simp for

Smh

I wish she appeared more often tbh

[bright sun]

what!

[cloud drum]

im more of a thanatos kinda guy myself

[cinder tartan]

same bro

[gray haven]

Keep it clean.

[cinder tartan]

sorry

[grave storm]

Found this out myself, no it's terrible

[calm creek]

just downloaded anything i should know before jumping in?

[waxen wadi]

Wow what happened here?

[viscid notch]

Jump in

[hushed sorrel]

Jump in mah dude

https://tenor.com/view/bird-jump-นกโดด-นก-โดด-gif-13943434

[spice tusk]

The game does a really good job at explaining itself, just enjoy the ride

Can't really do anything wrong there

[sand oak]

hades nutz

[peak yew]

imma make it to minotaur on this next run

[leaden whale]

Well Asher's voice over already got me so hearing it again was kinda 😳 indeed

[queen seal]

Guys hi I'm on the verge of mental breakdown

Escape attempt 50 still haven't escaped

[viscid notch]

Hi on the verge of mental breakdown

I'm mike

[queen seal]

I'm just so bad no amount of darkness can help if I can't dodge anything

I lost 2 death defiances against Alecto

Even Theseus and Asterius are easier for me

[viscid notch]

It's okay, 50 attempts isn't a lot, some people get their first win much later than that

[queen seal]

Wtf seriously

[viscid notch]

You will get it eventually

Yea

[queen seal]

Almost 40h in

I'm tired

[viscid notch]

People learn at their own pace so yea it's okay if it takes you a while, if you feel like you need a bit more help you can try Godmode, which is damage reduction that rises everytime you die, you can get comfortable with that then turn it off later if you want to

Alecto can be hard, she can overwhelm you with stuff, you just have to get used to her moves and learn the patterns and the timing on the dashes etc

[queen seal]

I already have that on... XD

[viscid notch]

Your dashes grant you iframes as long as you don't dash-strike so keep that in mind whenever you try to evade an attack

Dash-striking in the middle strips your iframes and you can get hit that way

[queen seal]

I didn't know that

[viscid notch]

Yea that can help a lot, also melee aspects can have a harder time with bosses in general

You can use keepsakes to help you target certain gods/boons, that can help your build get going so you can some good damage, Tartarus is sometimes a hard breakpoint to pass if you dont have a lot going for you

Furies are supposed to be hard, so it's okay to die to them, even experienced players die to them a lot if the Tartarus isnt that good overall

[queen seal]

I wonder is there a sandbox or something where I can try to learn each monsters moves or something

[valid shoal]

You can do that during attempts but my tip is to notice when they flash white, it’s right before they attack

[viscid notch]

You can do something similar to that through the use of mods but I wouldn't specifically recommend it, just playing through runs will get you there, as long as you're actively trying to dodge enemies

[queen seal]

Yeah but when there's so many monsters I can't understand anything I just dash strike randomly in the mass

[restive portal]

For easiest first win, try and get used to ranged weapons (e.g. Bow or Rail) and look for hammers that work well with then (e.g. twin shot or cluster bombs/rockets). Use keepsakes to get the boons you want in Tartarus and Asphodel and then switch to Tooth or Acorn in Elysium and Styx.

Or grab the shield and hunker down.

[queen seal]

I'm actually really really bad with ranged and shield

[restive portal]

Practice then

They really are safer if taking damage is your issue

[valid shoal]

If you hold the attack button on the shield you can block almost everything then release for a bull rush attack. Very strong and easy to use

[queen seal]

I never used it for blocking only the rush in

[restive portal]

Shield feels like cheating

It's a shame Skelly never attacks so you can't practice that.

Took me 60+ attempts to get to first win btw.

[queen seal]

This is all good info and all but I wouldn't feel like I really did it all I wanted was to finally win once with the sword

[valid shoal]

Just because you used a different strategy doesn’t mean you didnt earn the victory

But use the weapon yoy wnat the sword is probably my favorite

[viscid notch]

The sword is one of the hardest weapons to learn to play optimally so

[solar hemlock]

Hey guys between twin shot, triple and point black shot which is good for bow

[valid shoal]

I like twin

[solar hemlock]

I’ll go with it thanks

[viscid notch]

Triple and Twin are ideal first hammers for bow, Twin is very comfy, Triple can do more damage if you shotgun with it but it's difficult without reasonably good enemy and positioning knowledge

For your second hammer look for Perfect Shot, Point-Blank or Explosive then you're set

[quick drum]

explosive good?

[viscid notch]

I like it a lot

Probably favorite second hammer on Base bows

It's actually very good damage

[gray haven]

Sword is your main weapon? Which aspect do you like to use?

Also, can you share a screenshot of your mirror?

[restive portal]

For the default aspect sword my first escape was somewhere after attempt 200. Not because I couldn't have done it sooner, but because almost every other weapon felt better for me. Don't get hung up on one approach and play what works. I've probably not used default aspect sword more than 10 times ever.

My order of escapes was rail, fists, bow, spear, shield and sword (probably Poseidon aspect)

[misty fractal]

I like shield

[leaden whale]

this guy right here

I approve this message

[queen seal]

I've used the default one mostly

[queen seal]

Daaaamn 200

My main problem is dodging correctly while trying to kill them fast, so I don't lose hp and death defiances when I face Hades

Even if I got decent hp facing him I still can't kill him

His circle attack is so deadly

[restive portal]

Maybe add Poseidon cast since it's a good way to push things back and buy some space.

[queen seal]

I usually get the pushback on the special I don't like it on the cast

[restive portal]

Fair.

[bleak wave]

what do yall suggest for a sword build also aspect

[restive portal]

Which aspect?

Oh you want a suggestion for an aspect...

I really like hidden aspect with Aphrodite scaling on attack, but you may not have that.

If not, try Poseidon sword with Aphrodite cast perhaps. That can do a lot of damage quickly.

Dash up to almost anything, fire 3 strong casts into their face and hit them with the special to get the casts back (though they'll probably be dead anyway).

[gray haven]

If you're willing to try Nemesis or Poseidon Aspect, they're a whole lot stronger. The most effective way to play Zag Sword is also the most effective way to play Nemesis, except Nemesis does quite a bit more damage thanks to crits.

[queen seal]

I don't know what you're talking about, sword weapon aspects 1, 2, 3? xd

[grave storm]

Sword 2, if you use that lingo

[gray haven]

Yes. First aspect is Zagreus, second is Nemesis, and third is Poseidon.

[queen seal]

Ok thanks I will try

[gray haven]

Start with the and take her Attack or Special, whichever has higher rarity tbh. Then use Special > Dash-Strike x2 > repeat as your damage rotation.

When you get to Asphodel, swap to the Owl Pendant from Lady Athena to try to get Divine Dash from her.

[restive portal]

Poseidon has the benefit that even at its lowest level it gains most of its benefit from the special move it has.

[queen seal]

[gray haven]

For your mirror, swap to these: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867888481324761108/924371099767173120/unknown.png

Best hammer you can get is Double Edge, so take that when it's offered. Breaching Slash and Piercing Wave are also pretty good. Flurry Slash and Cursed Slash have a good chance of hurting you, so I'd recommend avoiding them.

Any hammers for your Special are also alright, but prioritize Double Edge, Breaching Slash, and Piercing Wave.

If you see Lord Zeus' in your run, definitely take his Call. Then if you started with Heartbreak Strike or Flourish from Lady Aphrodite, you'll be able to get their Duo Boon, Smoldering Air.

You can also take Gods' Legacy instead of Gods' Pride for that build if you prefer that. Either one works. But if you're not too familiar with Duo and Legendary requirements yet, Gods' Pride will generally do quite a bit more for you.

Shadow Slash doesn't affect Dash-Strikes at all, so there's no real reason to take that unfortunately.

Well, it's good on the 4th sword aspect at least. But pointless on the others.

[eternal heart]

Does Wave Pounding (knock away effects deal more dmg to bosses) work on mini bosses, too? Reading it I’m thinking just Asterius would qualify?

[polar finch]

counts for asterius and ||tiny vermin||

[eternal heart]

thank you!

sorry i should have censored mine too probably lol

I escaped for the second time last night. 🥳

[gray haven]

You can spoiler-tag it, but you don't have to.

[sour oxide]

[leaden whale]

yo i just got hades and i need some tips on random stuff can someone answer them for me 😄

[gray haven]

Ask away.

[leaden whale]

k well

what is the best god for the hades bow thing

like what gives the best upgrades

for the bow

[polar finch]

usually want high % damage on base bow so aphro/arty

[leaden whale]

k

[polar finch]

also want to dash strike with it

[leaden whale]

i like the idea of putting hangover on my special attack

for my bow

[viscid notch]

It's fine but you usually dont use that a whole lot

[polar finch]

hangover works but youll have to stick pretty close to stack it

[gray haven]

You can find my Newbie Build Guide in the pins here, that might help you get started with the different weapons.

[leaden whale]

also btw

when u buy a wepon with keys

is it one time use?

[polar finch]

no

[leaden whale]

pog

[polar finch]

permanent unlock

[leaden whale]

also i see this weird sheild and spear that i can buy with keys

which one should i get???

[gray haven]

Both.

[leaden whale]

and if this helps i like playing passively

[sour oxide]

you'll get them both eventually

[leaden whale]

thats why i chose the bow

[polar finch]

well shield you can block with

[sour oxide]

shield as you might guess is defensive yes

spear has a good ranged attack though if you like staying out of the action

[leaden whale]

i do

welp ima go play it now

and i might come back to this chat

[sour oxide]

yup thats the best advice sgshgshs

[leaden whale]

and ask a few more questions

[gray haven]

You'll have them all unlocked soon enough anyway, so just pick whichever one you feel like trying first.

[sour oxide]

'play some'

you'll get a feel for which styles you prefer over time

[gray haven]

I'd suggest not locking yourself into some playstyle, like "passive", especially since you don't really know what works well yet. So just experiment a lot. Like maybe you'll find a hyper-aggressive style actually works best for you in Hades.

[leaden whale]

Lmao I got the right Achilles dialogue on the first Interaction possible

Swag

YOOO

I BEAT THE FIRST FURY

: D

https://tenor.com/view/spamton-dancing-gif-23332491

yay

on my 3rd escape

: D

i just spammed my lvl 2 hangover bow special

after i learned that it works

*worked

better than my bow

and it also destroyed her annoying attacks

[restive portal]

It's a viable tactic at low level.

[leaden whale]

where she shoots the laser balls everywhere

[restive portal]

Ah, by victory you mean first boss, not last.

[leaden whale]

i said the first fury

i beat that person

[restive portal]

Good job

[leaden whale]

thanks

it is weird how only 49 percent of the ppl who bought the game escaped

cuz isnt escaping like the end of the game

[restive portal]

Yeah, scary stats. If this is on Xbox it might include game pass users?

[leaden whale]

maybe

[restive portal]

You escape more than once

[leaden whale]

i havent escaped at all

cuz i just started

[restive portal]

You will

[leaden whale]

i beat the first fury on my 3rd escapr

*escape

B)

and im proud of myself for doing it

[restive portal]

Better than me

[leaden whale]

why when did u beat the first fury?

[restive portal]

Probably run 6 or 7. It was a long time ago.

[leaden whale]

k

i kinda wanna to get the sheild

it looks cool

i only have the bow rn

and i find that it is rlly good for my passive play style

[restive portal]

If you play passive is a good choice

[leaden whale]

yes i do play passive

is bow good for a passive play style?

[restive portal]

If you haven't done so yet, j have a look at the mirror in your bedroom

I think it is.

[leaden whale]

i already did

i got a extra life

and the good news is that i havent spent it yet

cuz i didnt die fighting the first fury

[gray haven]

Spoilers.

[leaden whale]

Nah it's actually a very high stat, quite a lot of games have lower percentage for the achievement where you have to complete them

[leaden whale]

bruh

Well at least from what I remember

also i wish i didnt get enter the gundeon on my nintendo switch when i was younger

cuz now i cant play it on my pc and get mods for it

rip

The switch dilemma

yes

switch is terrible for rouge likes cuz

EVERYTHING

[restive portal]

The other thing to get from the mirror is the extra dash

[leaden whale]

not just joy con drift

[leaden whale]

ik i saw that

when i die im gonna get it

cuz i dash way too much

even when i dont need to

which usually makes me land on a trap

but i got a ablity that makes me take 75 less damage from traps : D

[restive portal]

That nice when you get into the next area.

[leaden whale]

u mean asphodel

[restive portal]

Yeah. Magma counts as a trap.

[leaden whale]

cool

well ima go through asphodel now

k bye

[restive portal]

GL

[leaden whale]

thanks

[leaden whale]

Wait what
Damn that's cool

DAMMIT

i died by the hydra

the annoying attack where it like multiples itself is annoying

[eternal heart]

does Hermes have a turtle in his bag? 😂

[restive portal]

But you got there on your 3rd escape attempt so that's great

[leaden whale]

thanks

i just got alot of atlantic upgrades

i mean

posideon

upgrades

i mean

no wot

there is too many sea gods

and i dont remeber whos whos and who goes where

[restive portal]

Poseidon is the sea god.

[leaden whale]

so it atlantis

*so is

and same with

[restive portal]

Good dash and cast

I mean in this game

[leaden whale]

i love the dash

the damage one

[peak yew]

There's a demi god named atalantis but I don't think he's in this game

[leaden whale]

zeus > thor

lol

ik one is from norse and one is from greek

but still

zeus better

[peak yew]

Also atalantis is more tied in with artemis

[leaden whale]

e

i think i like my bow more than the sheild

but the shield is pretty good

[leaden whale]

It's the only hard part of the boss
Could also have some trouble depending on the type of hydra (there are several, but afaik more appear only after you defeat the first one you confront), as during the times when it's lone it has periods during which it spams the ranged (or sometimes slamming) attack, but that's not too hard to avoid with the help of right dodges and the hiding pillars

[drifting cedar]

Say that to the women in ancient Greece

[fallow remnant]

Hello I am new and joined because I fell in love with this game and I am obsessed and after 2 weeks I could finally defeat Hades for the first time!!!!

[leaden whale]

ik it the only hard part but it is SO HARD

Yeah it does hit... Pretty hard

i k

i got to it on my 3 escape

lol

I forgot where I got myself tbh

i love rouge likes

a little too much

There ain't a whole lot of the good ones though

Tbh

i can name 3 of my favs

[strange shore]

Hey everyone new to Hades (its amazing), ||gotten to Hades himself a few times, does he have more than 2 Phases?||

[leaden whale]

3. hades lol
4. enter the gundeon
5. tboi

thats my 3 favs now

[leaden whale]

Uhh I believe the final boss name should be spoiled in here, but
To answer your question, no
||not yet, at least||

[gray haven]

Yes, spoiler-tag it like so: ||spoiler||.

[leaden whale]

when i got to REDACTED i was like ||"i know this guy has AT LEAST 2 phases and ill consider myself lucky if he only has 2" i was pleasantly surprised lol||

[gray haven]

lol

[leaden whale]

Ah yes

I mean

Hypnos himself calls the boss "Redacted"

And there are some funny quotes ngl

Idk why people hate on him

Fun guy tbh

[leaden whale]

hypnos calls him that cuz he doesnt know who the final boss is

hes like "it says here on the ledger you died to [REDACTED]? ive never seen that before"

me now have op stuff

i got charge for q attack on bow and i got a lvl 4 Poseidon special thing which gives the bow special ALOT of more damage