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marsh vector
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Beat that Bones Hydra ๐Ÿ’ช

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Got it

viscid notch
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Nice, well done!

modern briar
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donโ€™t evade the swear filter tho

leaden whale
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aye aye captain

strange fjord
indigo zealot
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y u gotta post it to remind me of pain and suffering XD

leaden whale
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So, lately Iโ€™m doing more of a spear build. I put all my boons and upgrades on dash and special. I wish I have Zesus for the first Boon because that lightning is very good but also weak is good too

maiden ruin
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Zesus thanthink

leaden whale
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lm flamewheel ao

leaden whale
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Jesus lost brother, Zesusโ€ฆ

leaden whale
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Noob question, is there a way to do a run that you mainly farm darkness and keys or it doesnโ€™t work like that?

polar finch
leaden whale
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Bet.

tepid bane
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uhm is there any tips to unlock the hidden aspects faster ? pensive_cry

polar finch
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mep

gray haven
celest fox
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Darkness and keys is super early or super late. It ||changes up once you win for the first time.||

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Spoiling that because idk how suggestive it is

static oriole
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is it worth taking second wave over sweet nectar?

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does second wave make tidal dash more powerful?

polar finch
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mostly depends on if you need anything that wants a lot of poms

marsh vector
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Ok, the game is so much fun... Rly

But where can I see the items i can get from gods? Cant Find it in Codex, playing on switch.

And how to enable rerolls?

Aspects are unlocked when unlocking the rail gun? Thought fists are last :-)

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And gifting gods do i need in the run or can i Find all the gods in the lobby? For example Hades?

viscid notch
# marsh vector Ok, the game is so much fun... Rly But where can I see the items i can get from...

The Codex upgrade should show up at the house contractor eventually, if you open it on a god page there should be a button to see the boons from that god, aswell as their duo boons with other gods, it's B on KBM by default idk about controller.
Rerolls are unlocked through your mirror (Fated Authority/Persuasion), there is also a contractor upgrade that makes it so keys give you a reroll.

viscid notch
marsh vector
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Mhhh still Not on point which god god i should give my nectar

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๐Ÿ˜†

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And still so many input

leaden whale
marsh vector
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The more nectar they get, the better the boons... Ok

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But need more Artemis boons for bow

leaden whale
dusty vault
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You dont get better things from gifting more

marsh vector
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Ok how get Things better then? ๐Ÿคจ

viscid notch
marsh vector
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Omg so noobish ๐Ÿ˜†

leaden whale
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there are mirror perks that affect boon rarity down the line

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but gifting nectar doesn't affect this

dusty vault
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Their keepsakes too affect rarity

marsh vector
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Ok then more key farm

dusty vault
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And yarn of ariadne/refreshing nectar

marsh vector
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But got life keepsakes

azure mulch
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Dark mirror upgrades, respective keep sakes for olympians. And one of the chaos boons

leaden whale
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the first time, you get a keepsake, then everything after is just for improving your relationship with them

marsh vector
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What is my earn from good relationship

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?

dusty vault
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You get to know them :D

azure mulch
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More dialoge. A little crest in the keepsake closet if you're a completionist and care about that

leaden whale
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there is no in-game reward, just a little satisfaction

marsh vector
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Ah ok

leaden whale
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and i guess if you're going for achievements

marsh vector
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And where do i get the reroll "skill" for doors

dusty vault
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Last mirror skill

marsh vector
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Did not Find it yet

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Last... Omg need more keys ๐Ÿ˜†

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Ups... Im going to love this game, so grindy...

dusty vault
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Remember you can trade gems for keys in the lounge too

marsh vector
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Ok

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Gems for Start no that Important than keys i guess

strange fjord
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Got my 5th win shadesmile

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Can't wait to see the end of the story

modern briar
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I believe you need 10 for the end

marsh vector
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How long took one round to the end?

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2hours? 3

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?

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Or less/more

maiden ruin
leaden whale
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my first one took me 60 mins

marsh vector
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To finish one run

leaden whale
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but i was playing really patient

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now i average about 20-30

marsh vector
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Or other asked5, home many stages to go after the Bones Hydra :-)

leaden whale
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2

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elysium and the temple of styx

marsh vector
leaden whale
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people beat this game in less than 8 minutes

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it's crazy

marsh vector
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Lol Yeah i saw some Crazy YT stuff

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But luck is still a factor i think

leaden whale
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actually no

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the majority of those are seeded runs

maiden ruin
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it took me 23 min for my first clear

marsh vector
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And the items u need for a build

grave storm
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my first clear is 44th attempt, 30:31:62

leaden whale
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nice job bouldy

grave storm
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Drunken Strike sword dusa

leaden whale
grave storm
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I posted it eons ago lol

strange fjord
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Got my 6th win btw

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I was sure i was gonna lose because i didn't get some boons i wanted but hey

grave storm
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yup, your skill starts making up for less good boons

slow nacelle
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about to open the game for the first time

boreal zenith
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Five wins in a row now!

polar finch
polar finch
marsh vector
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I will See :-)

frosty girder
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How have I gotten clears on 6 ||heat|| with fists but not any other weapon

frail beacon
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You got good with that, but not with the other weapons.

strange fjord
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Do you guys use the cast very often?

viscid notch
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Yes

noble mist
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The cast is very good. With the mirror of night upgrade boiling blood it gives you an extra 50% damage against whoever its lodged in, which can really improve your DPS. Also, its pretty useful in Tartarus and some of Asphodel for taking out low health creatures easily.

strange fjord
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Yeah i'm using boiling blood, but i just use the cast against bosses >< should i get used to using it against all enemies too? Maybe i wouldn't die so often if i used it all the way up instead of bosses only

marsh vector
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Cast? Is b or throw?

viscid notch
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It can help on other enemies, especially armored ones

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You donโ€™t have to use it on literally everything but get used to implementing it into your action sequences for whatever weapon, using it on bosses is a good starting point

strange fjord
strange fjord
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I get a lot of Ares an Artemis's boons, and their legendary/combined boons buff the cast so that's why i was in doubt

viscid notch
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Yea itโ€™s a strong duo boon

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But if youโ€™re not focusing on the cast and just got this duo on the side it might underperform a little, also if the aspect doesnโ€™t favor cast builds

celest fox
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You can do most of your damage with cast

strange fjord
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I used to have 3 casts but when i realized i never used all three, i switched

celest fox
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Yeah you don't need 3 except for like relatively low effort or flurry shot dependant builds

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Low effort as in there is a way to get many casts with the 1 cast that regens

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It's just hard and unreliable

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Stygian soul is definitely more fun but 1 cast on a cast build is pain

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Even just 2 feels much better

leaden whale
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Can you equip multiple keepsakes or thatโ€™s late game thing?

strange fjord
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Only 1, but you can get an upgrade from house contractor that lets you change every area

leaden whale
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Oh ok, thx

strange fjord
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np

grizzled sky
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Wait how many normal aspects do you need to get to unlock the hidden aspects?

static oriole
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and best aspects are all cast weapons

grizzled sky
marsh vector
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Cast weapons mean what?

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Is there a good way to farm titan blood?

static oriole
marsh vector
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Yepp @static oriole

static oriole
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any aspect that relies on casts as primal source of damage is a cast aspect

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or can rely

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technically even Eris is a cast weapon

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there are only 2 aspects actually than can't do without cast boon

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hera and beowulf

viscid notch
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Every aspect in the game can do without a cast boon

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Beowulf can use the Special and Hera can play as a worse bow

static oriole
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yeah, but that's not how you optimally play

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and we're not talking no-boon run here

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actually i would like to do that someday

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and i can't think of a best weapon for it

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my personal favorite is beowulf, but can it be good without a cast? i don't think so

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unless you pick up a specific hammer

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charged flight, is it?

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base damage of your special is already high, so

marsh vector
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But most time i play with bow, there is no cast, right? ๐Ÿคจ

static oriole
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hera is a cast aspect of bow

marsh vector
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Or do i need to "skill" it per boon

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Aspect i went for was zag

static oriole
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try chiron, aspect that requires no skill at all

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you need to upgrade it though first

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could be a problem

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bows are generally not a good pick for a beginner

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try shields

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zag shield is good

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and it takes almost nothing to fully upgrade it

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with it you can farm titan blood and upgrade other no-skill weapons

marsh vector
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Shild better beginner? Bow was pretty fine. Got to last Boss on 3rd stage after 16 runs ๐Ÿ˜†

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But now i have no blood anymore ๐Ÿ˜†

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But i try shild in next run

static oriole
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shield has the highest survivability

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my first victory screen was with the shield too

marsh vector
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Ok shield should use which god/ keepsakes

static oriole
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with Zag shield you go for heart rend

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artemis on your attack, aphrodite on your dash (or special, but with dash you apply weak a lot quicker)

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and that's basically it

marsh vector
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Ok need more titan blood

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Nothing left ๐Ÿ˜†

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Spend 4 in zag bow

snow nest
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for beginners, as far as i know, varatha is probably the best weapon to begin with...

viscid notch
strange fjord
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Epic Boons are better than the Legendary/Duo ones?

viscid notch
modern briar
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Yep

strange fjord
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I use the Aspect of Nemesis, and about the boons, i usually get the ones that buff my dash, atk and special atk only, no cast. (and the gods i always pick/try to pick are Artemis, Ares, Athena and Hermes, in case you want to know)

modern briar
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Those builds donโ€™t need duos

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plus the gods you take donโ€™t have helpful duos aside from merciful end

modern briar
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Also for beginners shield is easily the best

static oriole
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i think so too

strange fjord
static oriole
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well i am a beginner too, so in personal experience shields are easier for me to play

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i almost never die with them

modern briar
viscid notch
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It's really up to preference

modern briar
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because olympian favor ainโ€™t that good compared to the opposite

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which I believe is dark foresight

static oriole
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like how you can't stun enemies with the rail

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if you can't dodge well and don't know attack patterns of enemies you get hit pretty often

snow nest
static oriole
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exploding launcher maybe

strange fjord
static oriole
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easy pierced butterfly achievement

marsh vector
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Ok i died with shild first time try ๐Ÿ˜†

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@static oriole how is ur play style with shield? Dash and hold Attack? :-)

polar finch
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you mostly want to dash strike and knock enemies against walls

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constantly bull rushing works but its really slow and doesnt really teach you anything

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use the bullrush/block when there's a lot of attacks coming at once though

polar finch
# static oriole with Zag shield you go for heart rend

also i wouldnt go for heartrend. if you want a duo focused build its much better to go for either merciful end (ares atk/athena special and dash) or smouldering air (aphro attack/zeus call) especially on a low lol zag shield. aphro and ares attack are also gunna be better on their own that artemis attack

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@marsh vector

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between dash strikes you can also follow up with a quick regular attack so its like dash strike > attack > dash strike > attack

quick drum
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for example when i play zeus shield i barely bullrush until the final boss (or in really hectic rooms)

polar finch
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if you get charged shot it will work for charged attack spamming tho

maiden ruin
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yeah

marsh vector
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What is Bull Rush? ๐Ÿคจ

strange fjord
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You dash forward dealing damage to foes

maiden ruin
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the buff it gives is not that good

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especially compared to the other aspects

marsh vector
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Ok

maiden ruin
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hestia

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hidden aspect of spear

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thats probably it

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maybe zeus shield

marsh vector
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What god should i Pick for shild then? Or what is good beginner stuff

maiden ruin
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depends on aspect

marsh vector
maiden ruin
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you can do merciful end

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ares attack, athena special, athena dash, merciful end (the duo boon for athena and ares)

marsh vector
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But to play a build i need Full Mirror to reroll....

marsh vector
polar finch
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keepsake usage/other rarity buffs like eurydice, chaos, and yarn help a lot for grabbing duos without much mirror investment

marsh vector
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Dont have that keepsakes yet ๐Ÿ˜†

polar finch
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you dont have ares and athena keepsakes?

marsh vector
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Ah ares i got

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Athena too

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Ofc

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Sry

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U called names from keepsakes Not from god ๐Ÿ˜‡๐Ÿ˜‡

buoyant ravine
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I havent paid attention but does any of the weapon effect like Rama counts towards PS ?

polar finch
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i wasnt talking about keepsakes on the second half

polar finch
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yarn is a well item btw

marsh vector
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Ok sry then i didnt understand right

buoyant ravine
marsh vector
polar finch
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eurydice and chaos give buffs

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chaos with boons

marsh vector
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Ah ok the boon and the boon buff now i See ๐Ÿ˜†

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And last, what is yarn

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I got german Client... Maybe i should switch ๐Ÿ˜†

polar finch
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from wells of charon

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the description tells you it increases boon rarity

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generally if a buff or something says it increases boon rarity itll increase duo chance

marsh vector
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Ok thx

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Still dont come behind the secret from getting builds ๐Ÿ˜†

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So how to Upgrade wells of Charon ๐Ÿ˜†

polar finch
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wells of charon dont get upgraded

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theyre the purple fountain like things you see in chambers you can buy things from

marsh vector
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Yes i know, but i never got there good items

polar finch
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yarn is one of the rarer ones

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its gunna be the least impactful between eurydice, chaos, or keepsakes for getting duos tbh

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tbh chaos is also pretty rng compared to keepsakes and eurydice too

marsh vector
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Ok

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Thx

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Now im in ๐Ÿ’ช

strange fjord
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Hope i can get the 10th win today squirtyay i'm really excited about the story

tame sand
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you can do it ;)

celest fox
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Yarn is rare but very useful. I suggest saving them kinda for Hermes or Duos

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Hermes boons have lower rarity

polar finch
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2

leaden whale
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well 3, but actually 2, becuase you get friendzoned ๐Ÿ’€

trail radish
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So how do I unlock the last heart on someone? I have all hearts except last one on charon, and I also have 3 ambrosia which is how i thought you do it but idk...

dusty vault
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each character has a favor you need to do before the last hearts @trail radish you can see them on the wiki but most of them can be done if you keep playing (at least one like charon)

trail radish
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are they all favors that one would figure out eventually just by playing? or are some tricky and possibly take days/weeks to discover?

dusty vault
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pretty much every is on theme with each of them

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so like charon = spent money

trail radish
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nice thank you @dusty vault ๐Ÿ™‚ โค๏ธ

leaden whale
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Now that I been using the spear more, the sword isnโ€™t good for me anymore

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But yea, the farthest I got is the boney snake(Iโ€™m not good at name, sorry)

strange fjord
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Just finished the game

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Loved it

polar finch
strange fjord
polar finch
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yep

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takes awhile to get to though

strange fjord
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It's okay, i'll complete some prophecies/get some trophies until i get it

grizzled sky
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Wait

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When you guys make builds

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And what not

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How do you make sure you get the right boon

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Or hammer

polar finch
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boons is keepsakes and fated persuasion. hammer is mostly rng

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but you get two hammers a run so youll usually get at least one good hammer

grave storm
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you can't guarantee the right boon, though you eventually get skills to up the odds

celest fox
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You can manipulate hammer rng

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But it requires resetting and stuff

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It kinda ruins the fun

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If no hammer is good go for the least bad

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Damage versus armor is always good even if its boring

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And avoid serrated point unless you are going for it

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Unless you are using dash strike a lot, it will just hurt

sick quiver
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How do I use items?

viscid notch
polar finch
leaden whale
jovial flare
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hello, does anybody know what the anvil does in charon's shop does?

viscid notch
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Randomly

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You dont choose

jovial flare
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oh i see

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i got vicious skewer from it

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what does +50% crit on recovery means

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๐Ÿ‘€

viscid notch
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So when you use your Special on the spear (except the 4th Spear), you basically throw it but it stays at that spot so you have to use your Special button again to call it back

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Calling it back is the Recovery part

jovial flare
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i see

quick drum
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wait can you get vicious recovery on achilles too?

viscid notch
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You can yes

marsh vector
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Omg 22 runs and still Not stage 4 - im so Bad ๐Ÿ˜†

quick drum
leaden whale
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Don't be discouraged, Elysium is tough when starting out, can't lie

restive rivet
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How do you fight against ||witches|| if you don't have a deflect?

maiden ruin
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empty dash through their projectiles

restive rivet
shut oak
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How many attempts does it usually take to beat Hades?

slow nacelle
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is there an NPC i should give the|| necter ||to or is it up to me? i have gotten it a few times but i never know who the best person to give it to is

gray haven
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Give it all to Lady Aphrodite. courte5AphroHeart courte5DusaBond

leaden whale
shut oak
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Along with skelly

leaden whale
leaden whale
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Insulting nya is a death sentence bouldy

slow nacelle
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i am not sure about what weapon has the best dps but i like the bow. is it bad?

viscid notch
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There are no bad weapons really

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They all work to a certain extent

leaden whale
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Zag sword properly has the best dps

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Of all the zags

slow nacelle
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i have heard that the sheild is the best but i dont like how low the dps is

maiden ruin
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zag sword does literally nothing to your dps

slow nacelle
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also i wen to chaos one time and is "upgrades" were really bad. was i just unlucky or should i just never go to chaos?

viscid notch
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It depends on your build heavily, saying that one aspect has best dps is very vague

maiden ruin
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probably unlucky

gray haven
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Imagine your third message in a community is insulting somebody for liking a character. courte5Wut

maiden ruin
slow nacelle
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i meant is as a joke. i have been on here for a little while without saying anything and i saw thatthere was a joke about simping over Aphrodite

leaden whale
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Idk seems pretty brazen to me

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No /j, no bouldy or even a laughing crying

frosty girder
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What do people classify as new

leaden whale
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Wydm?

frosty girder
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And how hard is it to get ||hidden aspects||

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As in how long XS an you ask questions in here

leaden whale
marsh vector
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Ok that makes me feel better but omg, i Just started 3 runs ago to switch the keepsakes after a Boss.... ๐Ÿ˜†

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Like 20 runs without switching it.... Lmao

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Think thats the way to get a build

gray haven
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The popular strat is two different god keepsakes in the first two biomes to force the two core gods for your build, then switch to survivability keepsakes for the last two biomes.

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Most builds are focused on two gods and typically their Duo Boon + some support boons from the other gods that don't hurt your chances to get the core boons that you want or just have very strong boons in one slot..

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Like, Divine Dash from Lady Athena is great in almost any build.

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While Lady Artemis's core boons are a bit more situational, so in some builds you might only want Pressure Points + Hunter's Mark from her.

marsh vector
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Ok and to get a dou boon i need 2 boons from different pair of gods that have a dou

leaden whale
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Yes

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It's in the name

celest fox
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Shields can be very fast dps. It just takes some dps increasing tricks

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Basic shield is definitely not going to be the highest though

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But its safe

marsh vector
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Im getting deeper and i like

austere prism
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Whatโ€™s a good bulid for cornath

left gale
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coronacht? i prefer aspect of charon since dio/aphro can do some crazy damage on special

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you can focus more on attack and special on the bow, since you donโ€™t have to be as heavily dependent on cast if you have a good special

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for the hammer +4 special arrows is quite good

polar finch
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concentrated volley is a lot better for the special

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both though is pretty big dps

static oriole
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yeah the biggest flaw of chiron i believe is that it's special is slow, locks you in one place

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and relentless makes it even slower

polar finch
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more like a tradeoff than a flaw

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pretty sure with relentless youre locked from dashing for the same amount of frames, at least according to nyaa

static oriole
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who is nyaa anyway?

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i mean, i know that he's one of the members of this channel, but who is he?

knotty rune
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just an active user

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that has a ton of hours in the game and has made some steam user guides

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tested out lots of stuff

static oriole
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funny i didn't find any useful guides on steam

polar finch
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she btw

knotty rune
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actually its just the 1 guide

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which lists some god recommendations for the 6 weapons

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but definitely pretty experienced with the game, knows stuff about how things are calculated on the back end

static oriole
static oriole
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i wouldn't guess

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ok i'm gonna look up this guide now

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yeah, well, i saw it

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it's VERY basic

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for people who haven't even invested more than 10 hours in the game

abstract burrow
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Hello, I don't understand certain things, for example those green numbers beside shown on perk or upgrade screen, don't know how I can explain without showing a picture which I can't upload here

polar finch
knotty rune
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the green number shows you how effective each boon is

knotty rune
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so if a boon says increases attack and theres a green 40%, it means youll deal 40% more attack damage if you select that boon

knotty rune
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wrong button

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you have to right click the image itself

knotty rune
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so the first one means that when your attacks inflict doom, itll do 50 points of damage

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doom is a status effect that deals damage after a few seconds

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the green is the amount

celest fox
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That's base damage. It can be increased

abstract burrow
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I understand now

celest fox
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So it isn't as low as it looks

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It also gets better with rarity

knotty rune
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that green number goes up when the boon is higher rarity (purple or blue) or when you use poms of power on it

celest fox
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Slicing shot for example hits pretty rapidly

knotty rune
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which are those red circle items

celest fox
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^

polar finch
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it does kinda tell you what it indicates thanthink

abstract burrow
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Okay thanks for explaining ๐Ÿ‘

knotty rune
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it might make more sense if the numbers were placed like that and the colons were more visible

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but then they wouldnt be lined up nice nice

marsh vector
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Wow finally beat stage 3... Im getting deeper and game is getting better and better... Now im in and Know how to build and watch up for dou, thx a lot for the hlp

untold harness
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Congrats! Hades is a really fun game and just beat hades recently as well

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Took me 19 hours to get my first clear but it was well worth it

runic halo
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what are the most fun aspects that I should put my titan blood into?

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I dont have any of the secret ones

polar finch
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well its kinda subjective

runic halo
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oh

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yeah are there any that everyone likes

polar finch
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maybe not?

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what type of weapon do you like?

runic halo
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I think the spear and bow are fun

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and the gun

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the gun is really fun

polar finch
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also how much titan blood do you have/how easily do you get it?

runic halo
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uhh I just beat my first run

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so I can get it easy

polar finch
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if you like the base rail then eris is great

runic halo
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is eris the one with the manual reload?

polar finch
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thats hestia

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eris increases your damage by standing in the special

runic halo
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ohh

polar finch
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it goes up to a 75% increase and this affects almost every form of damage

runic halo
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what boons would I be looking for

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what kind of boons

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I mean

polar finch
#

zeus attack and tidal dash is usually the go to build for eris

runic halo
#

what makes tidal dash so good?

polar finch
#

its the highest base damage dash

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and the dash damage is increased by eris buff too

runic halo
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Could I use athena dash

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I really like athena dash

polar finch
#

in addition to zeus attack you want static discharge and hopefully zeus' legendary boom and youll get a lot of damage

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athena dash is still a good beginner choice just for the safety

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or choice in general

runic halo
#

I meant just like

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It just feels really safe

turbid stag
runic halo
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and leaves more space for human error

polar finch
#

yeah its good if you need it

turbid stag
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Use what you want

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But Poseidon dash on Eris SLAPS

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like you may not miss Athena dash as much as u think

polar finch
#

zeus attack and static discharge is already enough damage

runic halo
#

what does poseidon zeus duo boon do

turbid stag
untold harness
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Poseidon and zeus duo boons are a great pair

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Imo

turbid stag
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tidal dash breaking wave jolted and attack on Eris good enough

polar finch
#

like it says, knockback effects make enemies get slapped by lighting

runic halo
#

if it comes up I'll probably take it

polar finch
#

another god thats great to get with eris is aphrodite

turbid stag
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You need a non dash Poseidon boon to get it just FYI

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And if you get dash then breaking wave

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thatโ€™s super based just so that lol

runic halo
#

I beat my first run with aphrodite chiron bow

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aphrodite and demeter

untold harness
#

Nice

polar finch
#

slap aphro on special and get a zeus/poseidon/aphro/athena call and you can get smouldering air which makes your call charge to a single gauge in 5 seconds

untold harness
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got my first run with the shield

runic halo
#

how many hours

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did it take

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for your first win

untold harness
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19 hours

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3 attempts of fighting hades

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and 19 attempts total

marsh vector
#

27 attemps, no win so gar @runic halo

But getting closer

celest fox
#

Nice

marsh vector
#

But the first 20 attemps i Just played. Did not watched Codex or know how to create dou boons ๐Ÿ˜‡

frosty girder
#

Duo boons are a bit obscure tbh

polar finch
#

not really

marsh vector
#

But now the mechanics in my mind and 2nd time in a row i came stage 4.

But last Boss in stage 3 always pretty Hard for me.

Beginning is good but then they catch me

frosty girder
#

Take out one then the other

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Donโ€™t soften them both up

polar finch
#

specifically take out asterius before getting theseus down to half hp

marsh vector
#

Ah ok good to know

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One question to bow... Is Holding Attack still Attack for boons?

polar finch
#

yes

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otherwise the bow would be useless?

marsh vector
#

I mean Power shot

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Sry

polar finch
#

yeah. thered be no point in doing it if it reduced your damage

keen briar
#

which weapon is best for magaera shield or spear?

polar finch
#

best to try them both out

keen briar
#

ok

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in magaera boss fight can i won if only concentrate on boss without small enemies?

polar finch
#

like ignoring the adds she spawns?

keen briar
#

yes

polar finch
#

well yeah of course you can. you dont need to kill them to kill her

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but theyre gunna get in the way if you dont kill them

keen briar
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ok thank u

marsh vector
#

Another question, how to get companions?

plain pivot
crude sun
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Raise your relationship with certain characters

leaden whale
crude sun
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And Sisyphus

marsh vector
#

Ok thx

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A lot of Work ๐Ÿ˜†

leaden whale
#

The grind is real

crude sun
#

Not all at once just focus on one of those and youโ€™ll get one

leaden whale
#

I recommend aiming for meg and than, though they take more hearts, but Sisyphus is a good first

distant notch
#

Question... The Deadalus boons are all random right? I don't need to have a prereq to get them? I'm still missing one for the bow and one for the rail and they just never seem to appear.

gray haven
#

Some upgrades can't appear on some aspects, and some are unique to hidden aspects.

distant notch
#

Ohhhhh... That would explain it then! I have been using the same aspect for those two weps

dusty vault
#

Also some hammer block others from apearing too

distant notch
#

ohhh I didn't think about that

restive rivet
#

damn, 38 runs and I still can't beat last boss ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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With what builds people usually beat him at least once?

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First stage is easy, but second stage is annihilating me

polar finch
#

well first runs are often scuffed af thanthink

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second phase mainly you should be either hiding behind pillars or hugging dad when he uses lasers

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and when he summons pots, go around breaking them to make a safe area or have dad break em himself

restive rivet
#

hmm, interesting, will try that. Ty

viscid notch
polar finch
#

merciful end stonks

strange fjord
tame sand
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for me too
there is a lot going on

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i typed a whole paragraph and got nerfed by the censor bot

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pain

viscid notch
#

Is that a flagellant

tame sand
#

it is!

distant notch
#

So this is super noobish but I just learned that you can mod Hades... I mean, I don't typically use mods or anything in any other game but the fact that so many mods exist is just interesting to me

strange fjord
#

I wonder if you can change the stygian sword to a lightsaber

slow ferry
#

Changing the weapons visually is one of the harder things to do. The modders don't have the 3d models so they'd have to paint over every single frame of animation

strange fjord
polar finch
#

something something the software and stuff used for animations in the game is super expensive from a modder's perspective

viscid notch
#

rip

near night
#

hi

strange fjord
#

hello

austere prism
#

Still havenโ€™t beaten the final boss

left gale
#

coronacht is the bow i believe

polar finch
#

they prolly dont have the titan blood for chiron

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@austere prism if you just have the base bow then you can just stick doom on attack and athena on special. the base dps isnt amazing without good hammers or titan blood investment so a doom build works pretty well, especially if you get merciful end and impending doom

austere prism
#

Weeeeel I kinda spent all my Titan blood on aspect of zag

polar finch
austere prism
#

Actually I have Chiron but itโ€™s lv1

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Zag bow is maxed out

polar finch
#

oh thats good

#

you can either stick aphrodite or artemis on the attack

austere prism
#

How is weak any good? Dosent it just lower damage

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Of enimies

viscid notch
#

Aphro has big % aswell

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And lowering enemy dmg means you're less likely to die

polar finch
#

if you have aphro attack then put artemis on either special or cast or do the same with artemis attack and put aphro on dash or special

indigo zealot
#

The thing about boons is that

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It also increases ur base damage

polar finch
#

aphro has the highest base atk% of all the gods and gives access to two really good duo boons

dusty vault
#

and solid boons in general

polar finch
#

weak is pretty huge for increasing survivability yeah

indigo zealot
#

Thereโ€™s also other that increase damage done to weak enemies

polar finch
#

with aphro attack you also want to get zeus on your call and if you get smouldering air youve pretty much won the run

#

also flurry shot plus double or triple shot is really good dps

indigo zealot
#

Btw

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Aphro legendary

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The 15% charm

#

Does it work well with fast weapon?

polar finch
#

well yeah youll charm enemies really easily

#

its kinda annoying against dad though

indigo zealot
#

Charm lock boss would be nice lol

polar finch
#

since after losing charm his next attack will have no wind up

#

and the duration is really short

indigo zealot
#

Well but u can tell his next attack

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So can have dash ready

polar finch
#

yeah ig

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though tbh fast weapons dont really like aphro attack to begin with

#

ig you could go aphro special chiron or flurry bow

indigo zealot
#

In pvp, stunlock tends to do well

polar finch
#

theyre ranged too which is safer

indigo zealot
#

So just wondering

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But I suppose the dmg might not be as ideal

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And might not do td3 well

distant notch
#

110 runs in and I finally tried Charon's aspect. lol It's definitely much better than the other aspects I've tried but Coronacht is still the worst weapon for me. >_>

dusty vault
#

why do all people confuse charon with chiron even im not safe from that

distant notch
#

Whoops, sorry misspelled!

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I even misspelled misspelled... lol

grizzled sky
#

Erm

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When you upgrade the aspect of demeter

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for the fists

#

why does it sometimes do 180 dmg

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And the others 270

#

it's at heroic rarity

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Lv

#

4

viscid notch
#

Do you have Shadow Presence

#

You might be backstabbing

leaden whale
#

I still canโ€™t get pass Hydra. Like, I do a lot of dmgs but Iโ€™m also talking a lot of dmgs and just die.

grave storm
#

it alternates between the ground pound and its unique attack, so stay away when necessary

#

the pillars can block projectiles

polar finch
#

well its pretty much just dont stand right under the hydra. the hydra wont repeat the same attack back to back so if it does a ground slam then that means you can go up close and attack

#

if it does a non ground slam attack that means you should be prepared for the ground slam, so approach the hydra and bait out the slam then dash away before committing the attack

grave storm
#

when the small heads come out, start from one side and work towards the other. But, if one side starts getting too crowded don't be afraid to move away

#

Divine Dash is your friend, esp with the purple one that send shockwaves fanning out

leaden whale
#

Yea, I finally got to the third part of the small heads and it became a bullet hell game. The second part was a lot but the third part was a bullet hell.

grave storm
#

small heads follow the same pattern too

marsh vector
#

Args.... Did not beat Hades with 3 lives...

#

Holy hell

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2nd try

leaden whale
#

I only have two lives and I use both of them on the second floor

midnight holly
#

did anyone feel like they were getting worse at the game in the beginning? i used to consistently make it past meg no problem, now i keep using up all my death defy before asphodel ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

marsh vector
#

Na getting better each run, i hope ๐Ÿ˜†

polar finch
#

overconfidence i suppose

leaden whale
#

Iโ€™m slowly getting better, at least I donโ€™t lose a live from Meg anymore

polar finch
#

should spoiler the final boss name

marsh vector
#

Keep on going

#

Sry ๐Ÿ˜†

polar finch
#

its mostly just having a good build and learning his attacks ||one thing to note is during his laser attack you can hug him really closely and not take danage from them though its risky compared to hiding behind the pillars||

marsh vector
#

But in games i dont mind cause watching vids and guides and usually i play a game Not cause Story ๐Ÿ˜‡

leaden whale
#

Oh, I didnโ€™t notice his was talking about the ||final boss, I thought he meant the game itself||

polar finch
#

||also uh getting his by his skull cast will give you a debuff doubling the damage you take||

#

maybe im the one spoilering residentzag

marsh vector
#

Ok i will try tomorrow ๐Ÿ’ช

leaden whale
#

I already know each boss because of watching gameplay and such

grizzled sky
leaden whale
#

Bro, I had a very good run but still Hydra kill me, twice. I hate Hydra so much rn

slim dome
#

Can I have multiple duo boons?

#

For example, can I have curse of nausea and down the road get merciful end?

waxen sapphire
#

yup!

slim dome
#

Awesome

faint umbra
#

some of them are incompatible with each other, like crystal clarity and cold embrace, but i dont think the two you mentioned are

celest fox
#

Yeah only related ones are incompatible except for two

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Hunting Blades and Freezing Vortex are incompatible. Cold Embrace and Crystal Clarity are incompatible. Curse of Drowning and Mirage Shot are incompatible. Ice Wine and Scintilating Feast are not incompatible.

#

So it only matters for casts too

#

Other duos are all compatible

#

I dont even think there is a hard cap on boons you can get

#

You can get dozens

grave storm
#

Ice wine and Scint Feast can be gotten together

polar finch
grave storm
#

I noticed but dk if OP meant it

polar finch
#

true thanthink

winged holly
#

Hey, what do i need to do the weapon upgrades with the blood?

#

I unlocked all the weapon and beat the game twice, I dont see the option

polar finch
winged holly
#

oh thats probably it then, thanks! Ill try doing a run

slim dome
#

Is ambrosia worth trading in for titanโ€™s blood while Iโ€™m still trying to upgrade my aspects?

#

Or should I save my ambrosia for other things first?

#

I havenโ€™t encountered needing to spend it yet

gray haven
#

It's fine to trade in Ambrosia for Titan Blood. Maybe keep a couple on hand, though.

#

Stronger weapon aspects will help you gain more resources, anyway.

slim dome
#

Thatโ€™s what I was thinking

#

Are the other uses of it important?

#

I havenโ€™t even come across any yet

#

Any in particular that I should prioritize?

polar finch
# slim dome Any in particular that I should prioritize?

you can give it to npc's for whom youve reached and unlocked their locked hearts which is after like 6 or so nectars. in particular meg, than, dusa, sisyphus, skelly, and achilles will give you a useful item after doing so

slim dome
#

Tysm. I had been gifting Cerberus and Nyx the most, but Iโ€™m still gifting nectars.
Iโ€™m missing some keepsakes. Are there NPCs that Iโ€™ve missed giving nectar to, or are those the rewards from gifting ambrosia?

#

I canโ€™t think of any NPCs I havenโ€™t given nectar to. Even Chaos, Charon, and Thanatos have gotten at least one

polar finch
#

theres like two keepsakes you need to further progress the story for to unlock

indigo zealot
#

understandable that u wanna gift Cerberus

#

but most npcs, the more nectars u gift them, the more dialogues they would unlock

#

and Cerberus... well i think u can imagine not much dialogues u would get from him... ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

alpine ridge
#

you can track your nectar/ambrosia progress from the hearts bar beside the character in the Codex

#

you basically have to fill all of them up

austere prism
#

Is flurry shot or perfect shot better for a fully upgraded aspect of zag?

viscid notch
austere prism
#

Like piercing I think

near night
#

hi

leaden whale
#

You show up, say hi, say you have a question then never ask

#

You've done that like 4 times

near night
#

sorry

#

so my quesition is

#

how i use the titanยดs blood?

leaden whale
#

After unlcoking every weapon, they can be used to unlock and upgrade your aspects

near night
#

nice

#

so which is the first weapon i should upgrade?

#

im between the spear, the shield or the gloves

static oriole
#

cause bow's basic attack is already piercing

leaden whale
#

Which ever one you like the most

static oriole
near night
static oriole
#

and you will have every weapon and aspect fully maxed out some day

near night
#

well guess i will do that

static oriole
#

use your own judgement

#

that is all you have to do

near night
#

thx

slender dawn
#

what is the best aspect for the spear? ( huge fan of the spear )

viscid notch
slender dawn
#

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok

#

any clues on how to unlock it? lol

#

I forgot F

dusty vault
#

get all weapons then check the spear after equiping it on the house

slender dawn
#

oh yeah it was the easy one

#

cool

#

ty

obtuse fox
slender dawn
#

well not a tryhard in the game lol

#

I more like to just spam my way in

#

lol

leaden whale
#

I FINALLY BEAT HYDRA AND STILL HAVE MY TWO LIVES!!!!

#

Now, Iโ€™m scared of the next boss because I forgot what it wasPepeHands

marsh vector
#

Keep on going @leaden whale you Rock!

#

And WOW, finally I DID IT! 3rd try and im Out! I bet last one...

My really first finish

leaden whale
#

I fought ||the bull|| for the first time and I survive with only 2 healths

polar finch
#

with asterius its mostly important to quickly get behind him when he attacks since hes locked in a direction after the wind up and if you dash to the side youll likely get hit by the waves he makes in his second phase

#

also dw elysium doesnt count as a spoiler

leaden whale
#

Oh ok

polar finch
#

also in his second since he can turn around and send the waves behind him you should use one dash to get behind and save the other to dodge those

leaden whale
#

While, Iโ€™m still in my run, can yโ€™all tell me the third boss and the tips to beat it?

leaden whale
#

But Iโ€™m doing so good rn, I donโ€™t want it to be ruined

polar finch
#

well it involves bull man

#

and some other loser

viscid notch
#

Well there is quite a bit to cover, it's basically the bull you just fought and another annoying guy

polar finch
#

just focus on asterius and not the other guy first

viscid notch
#

Yea, Theseus can throw spears at you and shield your attacks so you gotta be cautious

polar finch
#

only after killing asterius you want to start hitting the annoying one

leaden whale
#

Oh ok, so I have to survive the boss and the rest the the floors with very low healthKEKW

polar finch
#

elysium is usually a barrier for newer players btw so dw if youre having more difficulty with it than other regions

leaden whale
#

Tbh, the chambers isnโ€™t the problem and the bull wasnโ€™t really hard, it just I was having a hard time learning and fighting at the same time. But that boss will probably dmg me more than Hydra

#

So, I reach to the boss and I died to the boss. Rip to that run

marsh vector
#

Last Boss?

leaden whale
#

The Elysium boss

polar finch
#

||should talk about heat in #h1-discussion its a spoiler in this channel||

versed summit
#

Do people dash into the lava in the second area alot or is it just me

#

Maybe I suck

midnight holly
#

yeah i do, but i kind of suck too

#

i think as you get more familiar with the game and consistently make it to asphodel, the big thing to overcome is the twitchiness, always wanted to mash attack and dash

#

the runs i've been more patient and methodical, i survive way longer

polar finch
#

mash button but with purpose dusa

frosty girder
#

The best part is dashing into lava after an encounter ends with pierced butterfly keepsake

leaden whale
#

What should I trade with wretched broker what's the top priority for the beginners to get?

#

Iam new to the gane

#

Game*

frosty girder
#

Titan blood

#

But it isnโ€™t really worth the grind

#

And you have to get to Elysium

#

I think

full bone
#

Is there a point to giving hades nectar

leaden whale
full bone
#

Ye

#

Iโ€™m going for the platniumโ€ฆ for the epilogue is there any point

restive portal
#

If you're going for platinum you'll have enough nectar lying around eventually you might just as well do it. Nothing affects what you see in the epilogue though.

full bone
#

Yeah

#

Iโ€™m close to the plat

marsh vector
#

Mhhhh shield rly Not my weapon

restive portal
#

Took me ages to get used to shield too, especially if trying to go fast.

#

25% of players on PSN platinum Hades!!

#

Impressive retention.

marsh vector
#

Sprint+Attack , Attack, hold Attack?

distant notch
#

Nectar is easy enough to come by tbh. @full bone

austere prism
#

What builds are good for the sword

leaden whale
#

artemis attack and aphrodite special -> heart rend duo boon

#

artemis attack and athena special -> deadly reversal duo boon (you can also get athena dash)

#

pretty much anything works on the sword, though it is a little hammer dependant

#

if you get flurry slash, definitely something like zeus attack

winter briar
#

Played the lyre until i get atleast 3 dialogues for about 15 runs now. The music did get better though after the 6th run in those 15 runs it never changed. Am i supposed to do something to get me complete the prophecy?

strange fjord
#

keep playing until zagreus say "i can play"

dusty vault
#

you need to play it like 200 times

#

and some orpheus dialogue in beetween

winter briar
#

Well damn thats gonna take a lot of time

leaden whale
#

you can sit down for like 20 mins

#

put on a youtube video and mash the a button

#

that's what i did at least bouldy

quick drum
#

im not really a fan of these repeat clicking the same button with no change a large number of times things

#

except for petting cerberus because hes a good boy

strange fjord
#

You can play it like 10 times per run

#

It'll be less boring

near night
#

hello

strange fjord
#

hello

near night
#

how are u doing?_

strange fjord
#

good i think ^^

near night
#

nice

leaden whale
#

Here does anyone know any myths about Hades I have a school project on him

marsh vector
#

Na sry

#

Just play the game

#

2nd finish btw ๐Ÿ˜†

polar finch
#

this is gaem thanthink

grave storm
#

the one about Tantalus is underrated

#

well there are no myths about the game... Yet dusa

#

the absence of Hades (character) related stories in itself is funny because people really made a death manager god OC and went "oh no if we talk about him too much we'll manifest him irl"

strange fjord
brittle sonnet
#

Originally the three god-brothers were basically rolled up into one character. The mycanean Poseidon. The mycanean Poseidon was the earthquake god, king of the gods, and the God of the dead. Later on he was split into three different characters, those being Zeus, Hades and the modern Greek Poseidon

celest fox
#

It does change btw

#

The harp playing

#

Just keep trying

#

Isnt there like nothing about Zagreus too

restive portal
#

Zagreus does exist in some versions of the myth. To believe that the Olympian myths are a single coherent thing is a mistake, there are just more or less well known versions.

leaden whale
#

I know I should learn other weapons but I really like the spear tho

celest fox
#

That's fine. You probably dont even have the whole weapon unlocked yet

#

So you might find one that you like on another weapon

#

Spear for example can be really good with casts

lament current
#

so im a new player! and really I only joined as I have 1 question, how do I make the bow good? i have tried many runs with it and just I hate it! compared to the rest of the weapons (other then the gun which is second worst weapon) its the worst weapon in the game it feels like, shots are slow, you cant move while aiming (same reason I dont like the gun) doing a dash hit is almost impossible to hit.. whats to like about the bow?

maiden ruin
#

dash strike

celest fox
#

Practice and auto aim. Are you on keyboard+mouse?

#

Keep some distance too usually

grave storm
#

dash in circles around the enemies.

celest fox
#

Yeah

lament current
grave storm
#

if an enemy is getting close, just release and dash away

celest fox
#

Auto aim isnt on kbm I dont believe

lament current
maiden ruin
#

what

grave storm
#

go to the menu, there should be a check box that says aim assist

maiden ruin
#

no its not

#

dash strikes are faster

celest fox
#

Nah dash strike decreases your shot charge length

lament current
#

dash strike is almost impossible to hit with

grave storm
#

increases speed. decreases charge time.

celest fox
#

Yeah

maiden ruin
#

shots are slow

celest fox
#

Just practice

maiden ruin
#

use dash strikes

grave storm
#

dash - press attack - use cursor to aim at the enemies

grave storm
#

you can change attack direction mid-charge

lament current
# polar finch ?

how am I supposed to hit a target when im moving and dont know where im shooting from?

celest fox
#

Kbm does probably make it harder but you'll get used to it.

#

No you dash then charge then dash

maiden ruin
#

i dont have any trouble shooting enemies with dash strikes

grave storm
#

when you're charging the shot you're standing still, so use the mouse to aim

celest fox
#

You shoot off a power shot then dash with it

#

That's how you get them off quick

#

You can also get hammers that change it

polar finch
celest fox
#

Like flurry shot. Which stops powershots entirely but you rapidly shoot even while dashing

#

Though you dont like the gun either

gilded flume
# lament current so im a new player! and really I only joined as I have 1 question, how do I make...

I agree. It's lower DPS than the other weapons and the "extra range advantage" is almost useless when enemies can hit you from anywhere on screen or even off screen. And you can just stunlock them with the other close range weapons anyway. I kind of like using the aspect that lets you cast with your attack, but even then I still find it difficult. Having a dash boon really helps with this weapon when you need quick damage.

#

The rail is also tricky, but I like it better. The rail's special is really good, you should use it if you're not using it already.

grave storm
#

all the bow slander is making me take +50% dmg

polar finch
#

bow ofc aint good dps if you dont powershot or build it properly

grave storm
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now that I've tried kbm, it might be a kbm thing. I liked bow way before I knew what builds were

gilded flume
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I was using powershot.

celest fox
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What attack boon

grave storm
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keyboard and mouse

celest fox
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Attack boon really matters, especially for powershots

leaden whale
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how does anyone play this with a mouse though

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woah that riled up some people

celest fox
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For example you could do Artemis attack, twin shot, point blank shot

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polar finch
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baj plays with kbm residentzag

leaden whale
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i just suck at kbm games in general so ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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altough i think it's much easier with a controller

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but that's subjective nonetheless

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# polar finch wdym you dont know where youre shooting from

I don't know where my dash will end usually or where the enemy will be by the time my dash ends, usually I miss most of my shots as it is since they are moving while I aim or I need to suddenly dash away as someone gets to close before im ready to shoot my shot

celest fox
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Well that's something you just get used to

modern briar
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Just spend more time playing the game

polar finch
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tbh thats more of a personal issue than bow being bad

celest fox
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You will learn

modern briar
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these arenโ€™t like bow things youโ€™re just green

grave storm
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when you're charging the regular attack, you can use the mouse to aim, so it doesn't matter if the enemy moves

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modern briar
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I say as they are the only non green name currently in chat

leaden whale
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git gud dusa

lament current
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and I have no clue how im going to beat the third boss with it..

modern briar
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again, you just need to use it more

celest fox
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It does get something extra when you upgrade weapons

leaden whale
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i think the controller auto aim makes ranged weapons a lot easier

celest fox
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True

modern briar
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like you said you donโ€™t know where your dash ends up?

leaden whale
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becuase you don't need to look where you're clicking

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polar finch
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the bow isnt slow is the thing

modern briar
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hammers are not upgrades

polar finch
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and that extra thing is the range

grave storm
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No, permanent upgrades using titan blood

celest fox
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There are good hammers and there are good permanent upgrades

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Like twin shot. Very good.

lament current
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ah im out of titan blood and have no clue how to get more as ive gotten one with all my weapons

celest fox
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||Aspect of Rama|| very good

grave storm
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imo the best option is probably to just not use the bow, and use weapons you like more

celest fox
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Yeah

polar finch
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its only if you cant position yourself well when the charge time is an issue

celest fox
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Use it when you get bored

polar finch
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that sort of thing takes practice

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leaden whale
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no one saw that bouldy

polar finch
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well then you pretty much just need to learn to dash

modern briar
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imagine suggesting ||rama|| to someone who thinks base bow is slow

celest fox
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||Rama is a slow aspect but honestly it gets some of the fastest room clears.||

modern briar
polar finch
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explosive shot ||rama||

leaden whale
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triple explosive shot heart rend ||rama||

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no one saw that either

modern briar
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bruh

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# polar finch well then you pretty much just need to learn to dash

well.. uh the way I dash and fight is just non stop clicking the spacebar, I dont watch where im going to land (which leads me into lava more often then not on the second floor) but I can usually get away without taking any damage and killing everything before they can even attack once (unless they have armor)

modern briar
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bruh

polar finch
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yeah button mashing wont take you far

celest fox
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You need to improve your dash reflexes then

grave storm
leaden whale
celest fox
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You want to be dashing a lot

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But with purpose

modern briar
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whatโ€™s default bindings for keyboard, what does spacebar do?

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dash or smth

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cuz like

grave storm
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space = dash

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modern briar
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donโ€™t dash spam smh

celest fox
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Practice more

lament current
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and then usually die as im out of revives

modern briar
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because

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youโ€™re wasting your dashes

celest fox
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The final boss punishes early dashes

grave storm
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literally the second time I used bow I got past boss 3 for the first time and made it to boss 4. it's just whether the style clicks for you and it's ok if it doesn't

polar finch
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well then its probably clear you should be practicing

modern briar
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you dash early, || dad spins you, or his casts hit you, or lasers hit you||

polar finch
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play slower for a bit and actually focus specifically on your dash usage

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celest fox
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Yeah I immediately liked bow

modern briar
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if youโ€™re dashing into environmental hazards youโ€™re not playing right

indigo zealot
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if u wanna play an easier bow, i guess Chiron might worth a shot

modern briar
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like enough where itโ€™s constant

celest fox
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||proper dashing can literally stop laser damage entirely||

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leaden whale
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i think knowing your dash is the quintessential piece of hades

indigo zealot
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one atk to lock an enemy, and special will auto aim

leaden whale
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don't just go crazy

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timing is everything

modern briar
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basically you need to like, be aware of what youโ€™re doing

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and use dashes when needed

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your spacebar will thank you

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Oh yeah and pro tip

leaden whale
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or a button bouldy

modern briar
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I literally learned this a few weeks ago

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apparently dash strikes donโ€™t give you iframes

leaden whale
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ah was just about to mention that

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dont dash strike when trying to evade something

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you will still get hit

grave storm
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# modern briar basically you need to like, be aware of what youโ€™re doing

I am aware of it, and usually I can dodge all damage, its kinda rare for me to even take damage other then third floor as thats my newest one. usually all the damage I take are the shield guys there just annoying.. and bosses I take damage from bosses, then all my revives go to third and fourth boss where I die on fourth

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celest fox
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Pierce ignores shields btw

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So anything that says pierce and some stuff that doesnt

polar finch
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asterius and theseus are together boss 3

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celest fox
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Invalidates those guys

polar finch
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theres another region after elysium

grave storm
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until their shockwaves go through walls and hit you shadedisgruntled

celest fox
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Yeah. But its different

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You'll see

lament current
celest fox
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Yeah shield guys are like the highest damage enemy in Elysium too

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Feels like it at least

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Even when you have an easy counter they hit hard

lament current
celest fox
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Practice backstabbing in Tartarus

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That's good dash practice too

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Dont get hit and consistently land bonus backstab damage on enemies with backs

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What are the big orange guys called again? Do those

polar finch
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make sure to pay attention to how long it takes and what distance you need to be for enemies to start attacking you

celest fox
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Yeah. That's important for bow

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Knowing how much time you have to charge

polar finch
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one of the most important skills to learn is predicting enemies instead of having to react to them

lament current
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the main reason I like my strategy is I can stun lock large groups of enemies at once by dashing back and forth between them

celest fox
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Ideally you will dash to make enough distance that you get powershots

lament current
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and avoid basiaclly all damage as dash recharge is really short it feels like

celest fox
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Do they always need to be stun locked?

polar finch
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just know that relying on stunlocking wont improve your skills and wont work when against bosses or armored enemies

celest fox
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Ideally you just do enough damage to kill them asap

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Once their armor is off

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Practice backstabs in Asphodel, on bloodless

lament current
celest fox
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Those are a bit tougher but that's also a good example of controlled dashing

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Because they hit hard and heavy up front but leave their backs vulnerable for a fairly long time