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Nice, well done!
donโt evade the swear filter tho
aye aye captain
Nice!!! 
y u gotta post it to remind me of pain and suffering XD
So, lately Iโm doing more of a spear build. I put all my boons and upgrades on dash and special. I wish I have Zesus for the first Boon because that lightning is very good but also weak is good too
Zesus 
lm flamewheel ao
Jesus lost brother, Zesusโฆ
Noob question, is there a way to do a run that you mainly farm darkness and keys or it doesnโt work like that?
generally you take poseidon and ocean's bounty from him then hit up chaos a lot for their* darkness increase boons and do treasure troves
Bet.
uhm is there any tips to unlock the hidden aspects faster ? 
#h1-story-discussion in the pins
or like the wiki
win more runs
their* 
mep

Darkness and keys is super early or super late. It ||changes up once you win for the first time.||
Spoiling that because idk how suggestive it is
is it worth taking second wave over sweet nectar?
does second wave make tidal dash more powerful?
mostly depends on if you need anything that wants a lot of poms
Ok, the game is so much fun... Rly
But where can I see the items i can get from gods? Cant Find it in Codex, playing on switch.
And how to enable rerolls?
Aspects are unlocked when unlocking the rail gun? Thought fists are last :-)
And gifting gods do i need in the run or can i Find all the gods in the lobby? For example Hades?
The Codex upgrade should show up at the house contractor eventually, if you open it on a god page there should be a button to see the boons from that god, aswell as their duo boons with other gods, it's B on KBM by default idk about controller.
Rerolls are unlocked through your mirror (Fated Authority/Persuasion), there is also a contractor upgrade that makes it so keys give you a reroll.
You can find some Chtonic Gods and other NPCs in the lobby, but Olympian gods and Charon/Patroculus can only be gifted in the run
Mhhh still Not on point which god god i should give my nectar
๐
And still so many input
give them to all at least once
The more nectar they get, the better the boons... Ok
But need more Artemis boons for bow
no actually
You dont get better things from gifting more
Ok how get Things better then? ๐คจ

Omg so noobish ๐
there are mirror perks that affect boon rarity down the line
but gifting nectar doesn't affect this
Their keepsakes too affect rarity
Ok then more key farm
And yarn of ariadne/refreshing nectar
But got life keepsakes
Dark mirror upgrades, respective keep sakes for olympians. And one of the chaos boons
the first time, you get a keepsake, then everything after is just for improving your relationship with them
You get to know them :D
More dialoge. A little crest in the keepsake closet if you're a completionist and care about that
there is no in-game reward, just a little satisfaction
Ah ok
and i guess if you're going for achievements
And where do i get the reroll "skill" for doors
Last mirror skill
Did not Find it yet
Last... Omg need more keys ๐
Ups... Im going to love this game, so grindy...
Remember you can trade gems for keys in the lounge too
I believe you need 10 for the end
what
my first one took me 60 mins
To finish one run
Or other asked5, home many stages to go after the Bones Hydra :-)
Ok u are Veteran :-)
hardly actually
people beat this game in less than 8 minutes
it's crazy
it took me 23 min for my first clear
And the items u need for a build
my first clear is 44th attempt, 30:31:62
nice job 
Drunken Strike sword 
if you took a ss, post it in #h1-victory-boasting
I posted it eons ago lol
I usually take around 30m now, but my first ones used to take 1 hour+
Got my 6th win btw
I was sure i was gonna lose because i didn't get some boons i wanted but hey
yup, your skill starts making up for less good boons
about to open the game for the first time
Five wins in a row now!
eh. there are a lot of sub 8 unseeded runs
first clears are usually like 30-50 minutes in game time
I will See :-)
How have I gotten clears on 6 ||heat|| with fists but not any other weapon
You got good with that, but not with the other weapons.
Do you guys use the cast very often?
Yes
The cast is very good. With the mirror of night upgrade boiling blood it gives you an extra 50% damage against whoever its lodged in, which can really improve your DPS. Also, its pretty useful in Tartarus and some of Asphodel for taking out low health creatures easily.
Yeah i'm using boiling blood, but i just use the cast against bosses >< should i get used to using it against all enemies too? Maybe i wouldn't die so often if i used it all the way up instead of bosses only
Cast? Is b or throw?
It can help on other enemies, especially armored ones
You donโt have to use it on literally everything but get used to implementing it into your action sequences for whatever weapon, using it on bosses is a good starting point
I believe that the "b" you say is on an xbox controller, so yes it's b
Hmm okay :) i'll do it then
thanks!
I get a lot of Ares an Artemis's boons, and their legendary/combined boons buff the cast so that's why i was in doubt
Yea itโs a strong duo boon
But if youโre not focusing on the cast and just got this duo on the side it might underperform a little, also if the aspect doesnโt favor cast builds
You can do most of your damage with cast
You got me there, since i only use 1 cast ๐คก
I mainly focus on atk/special atk
I used to have 3 casts but when i realized i never used all three, i switched
Yeah you don't need 3 except for like relatively low effort or flurry shot dependant builds
Low effort as in there is a way to get many casts with the 1 cast that regens
It's just hard and unreliable
Stygian soul is definitely more fun but 1 cast on a cast build is pain
Even just 2 feels much better
Can you equip multiple keepsakes or thatโs late game thing?
Only 1, but you can get an upgrade from house contractor that lets you change every area
Oh ok, thx
np
Wait how many normal aspects do you need to get to unlock the hidden aspects?
You can check the pins in #h1-story-discussion
well yeah, one of the most powerful things in the game
and best aspects are all cast weapons
Thannnk youuuu
have you unlocked aspects yet?
Yepp @static oriole
any aspect that relies on casts as primal source of damage is a cast aspect
or can rely
technically even Eris is a cast weapon
there are only 2 aspects actually than can't do without cast boon
hera and beowulf
Every aspect in the game can do without a cast boon
Beowulf can use the Special and Hera can play as a worse bow
yeah, but that's not how you optimally play
and we're not talking no-boon run here
actually i would like to do that someday
and i can't think of a best weapon for it
my personal favorite is beowulf, but can it be good without a cast? i don't think so
unless you pick up a specific hammer
charged flight, is it?
base damage of your special is already high, so
But most time i play with bow, there is no cast, right? ๐คจ
hera is a cast aspect of bow
try chiron, aspect that requires no skill at all
you need to upgrade it though first
could be a problem
bows are generally not a good pick for a beginner
try shields
zag shield is good
and it takes almost nothing to fully upgrade it
with it you can farm titan blood and upgrade other no-skill weapons
Shild better beginner? Bow was pretty fine. Got to last Boss on 3rd stage after 16 runs ๐
But now i have no blood anymore ๐
But i try shild in next run
with shield you'd probably beat final boss by now at least once
shield has the highest survivability
my first victory screen was with the shield too
Ok shield should use which god/ keepsakes
with Zag shield you go for heart rend
artemis on your attack, aphrodite on your dash (or special, but with dash you apply weak a lot quicker)
and that's basically it
for beginners, as far as i know, varatha is probably the best weapon to begin with...
Well it might be, if you just want a clear then maybe its easier for you if you play Special ||Beowulf|| instead of casting lol
Epic Boons are better than the Legendary/Duo ones?
That's hard to answer without any context on the build and boons in question
Yep
I use the Aspect of Nemesis, and about the boons, i usually get the ones that buff my dash, atk and special atk only, no cast. (and the gods i always pick/try to pick are Artemis, Ares, Athena and Hermes, in case you want to know)
Those builds donโt need duos
plus the gods you take donโt have helpful duos aside from merciful end
why?
Also for beginners shield is easily the best
i think so too
Noice! I'll get the increased chance for Rare ones then ^^ thanks!
well i am a beginner too, so in personal experience shields are easier for me to play
i almost never die with them
You mean for epic right
It's really up to preference
because olympian favor ainโt that good compared to the opposite
which I believe is dark foresight
well there is some technical criteria too
like how you can't stun enemies with the rail
if you can't dodge well and don't know attack patterns of enemies you get hit pretty often
long range and pretty good upgrades from daedalus
exploding launcher maybe
Oh yes yes my bad
easy pierced butterfly achievement
Ok i died with shild first time try ๐
@static oriole how is ur play style with shield? Dash and hold Attack? :-)
you mostly want to dash strike and knock enemies against walls
constantly bull rushing works but its really slow and doesnt really teach you anything
use the bullrush/block when there's a lot of attacks coming at once though
also i wouldnt go for heartrend. if you want a duo focused build its much better to go for either merciful end (ares atk/athena special and dash) or smouldering air (aphro attack/zeus call) especially on a low lol zag shield. aphro and ares attack are also gunna be better on their own that artemis attack
@marsh vector
between dash strikes you can also follow up with a quick regular attack so its like dash strike > attack > dash strike > attack
yup, like it works but its slow
for example when i play zeus shield i barely bullrush until the final boss (or in really hectic rooms)
if you get charged shot it will work for charged attack spamming tho
yeah
What is Bull Rush? ๐คจ
When you hold the attack button then release it
You dash forward dealing damage to foes
Ok
What god should i Pick for shild then? Or what is good beginner stuff
No one yet on shild ๐ช
you can do merciful end
ares attack, athena special, athena dash, merciful end (the duo boon for athena and ares)
But to play a build i need Full Mirror to reroll....
Then ares as god ๐๐
doom attack or special with athena dash is fine on its own
keepsake usage/other rarity buffs like eurydice, chaos, and yarn help a lot for grabbing duos without much mirror investment
Dont have that keepsakes yet ๐
you dont have ares and athena keepsakes?
Ah ares i got
Athena too
Ofc
Sry
U called names from keepsakes Not from god ๐๐
I havent paid attention but does any of the weapon effect like Rama counts towards PS ?
i wasnt talking about keepsakes on the second half
eurydice and chaos buffs and yarn have nothing to do with keepsakes
yarn is a well item btw
nope
Ok sry then i didnt understand right
thx, just got Rama and it's busted lol
What Else is it, sry
wdym
eurydice and chaos give buffs
chaos with boons
Ah ok the boon and the boon buff now i See ๐
And last, what is yarn
I got german Client... Maybe i should switch ๐
from wells of charon
the description tells you it increases boon rarity
generally if a buff or something says it increases boon rarity itll increase duo chance
Ok thx
Still dont come behind the secret from getting builds ๐
So how to Upgrade wells of Charon ๐
wells of charon dont get upgraded
theyre the purple fountain like things you see in chambers you can buy things from
Yes i know, but i never got there good items
yarn is one of the rarer ones
its gunna be the least impactful between eurydice, chaos, or keepsakes for getting duos tbh
tbh chaos is also pretty rng compared to keepsakes and eurydice too
Hope i can get the 10th win today
i'm really excited about the story
you can do it ;)
Yarn is rare but very useful. I suggest saving them kinda for Hermes or Duos
Hermes boons have lower rarity
2
well 3, but actually 2, becuase you get friendzoned ๐
So how do I unlock the last heart on someone? I have all hearts except last one on charon, and I also have 3 ambrosia which is how i thought you do it but idk...
each character has a favor you need to do before the last hearts @trail radish you can see them on the wiki but most of them can be done if you keep playing (at least one like charon)
are they all favors that one would figure out eventually just by playing? or are some tricky and possibly take days/weeks to discover?
nice thank you @dusty vault ๐ โค๏ธ
Now that I been using the spear more, the sword isnโt good for me anymore
But yea, the farthest I got is the boney snake(Iโm not good at name, sorry)
||there's an epilogue after the credits btw though tbh a bit disappointing in coolness compared to credits. mostly just tying up the story||
||Yeah i imagined that, when they talked about the olympians, i believe it'll be a reunion, maybe||
It's okay, i'll complete some prophecies/get some trophies until i get it
Wait
When you guys make builds
And what not
How do you make sure you get the right boon
Or hammer
boons is keepsakes and fated persuasion. hammer is mostly rng
but you get two hammers a run so youll usually get at least one good hammer
you can't guarantee the right boon, though you eventually get skills to up the odds
You can manipulate hammer rng
But it requires resetting and stuff
It kinda ruins the fun
If no hammer is good go for the least bad
Damage versus armor is always good even if its boring
And avoid serrated point unless you are going for it
Unless you are using dash strike a lot, it will just hurt
How do I use items?
What items specifically
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/904961854357524510/904961876251791380/IMG_2982.png @sick quiver btw you can post images in this channel and others by first uploading it somewhere else like a private server and copying the link then pasting it
How do I play the game
hello, does anybody know what the anvil does in charon's shop does?
It takes one of your hammer upgrades and give you two others
Randomly
You dont choose
oh i see
i got vicious skewer from it
what does +50% crit on recovery means
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So when you use your Special on the spear (except the 4th Spear), you basically throw it but it stays at that spot so you have to use your Special button again to call it back
Calling it back is the Recovery part
i see
wait can you get vicious recovery on achilles too?
You can yes
Omg 22 runs and still Not stage 4 - im so Bad ๐
nah dont worry, everyone learns at their own pace and 22 runs without a win isnt bad by a longshot
Don't be discouraged, Elysium is tough when starting out, can't lie
How do you fight against ||witches|| if you don't have a deflect?
empty dash through their projectiles
if it will make you feel better, it took me more too ๐
How many attempts does it usually take to beat Hades?
is there an NPC i should give the|| necter ||to or is it up to me? i have gotten it a few times but i never know who the best person to give it to is
Give it all to Lady Aphrodite.

Achilles is a pretty good choice
My first took 18
Along with skelly
Choose who you like. Youll eventually have to gift everyone multiple times.
simp
Insulting nya is a death sentence 
i am not sure about what weapon has the best dps but i like the bow. is it bad?
i have heard that the sheild is the best but i dont like how low the dps is
no its probably zag bow
zag sword does literally nothing to your dps
also i wen to chaos one time and is "upgrades" were really bad. was i just unlucky or should i just never go to chaos?
It depends on your build heavily, saying that one aspect has best dps is very vague
probably unlucky
Imagine your third message in a community is insulting somebody for liking a character. 

i meant is as a joke. i have been on here for a little while without saying anything and i saw thatthere was a joke about simping over Aphrodite
What do people classify as new
Wydm?
And how hard is it to get ||hidden aspects||
As in how long XS an you ask questions in here
Not too hard. Just put at least 5 blood into each weapon and reach ||hades|| once (doesn't matter if you win). First one is to get always will be ||Guan yu|| from achilles.
There's a pin in #h1-story-discussion for who to talk to for hiddin aspects I think
Ok that makes me feel better but omg, i Just started 3 runs ago to switch the keepsakes after a Boss.... ๐
Like 20 runs without switching it.... Lmao
Think thats the way to get a build
The popular strat is two different god keepsakes in the first two biomes to force the two core gods for your build, then switch to survivability keepsakes for the last two biomes.
Most builds are focused on two gods and typically their Duo Boon + some support boons from the other gods that don't hurt your chances to get the core boons that you want or just have very strong boons in one slot..
Like, Divine Dash from Lady Athena is great in almost any build.
While Lady Artemis's core boons are a bit more situational, so in some builds you might only want Pressure Points + Hunter's Mark from her.
Ok and to get a dou boon i need 2 boons from different pair of gods that have a dou
Shields can be very fast dps. It just takes some dps increasing tricks
Basic shield is definitely not going to be the highest though
But its safe
Im getting deeper and i like
Whatโs a good bulid for cornath
coronacht? i prefer aspect of charon since dio/aphro can do some crazy damage on special
you can focus more on attack and special on the bow, since you donโt have to be as heavily dependent on cast if you have a good special
for the hammer +4 special arrows is quite good
yeah the biggest flaw of chiron i believe is that it's special is slow, locks you in one place
and relentless makes it even slower
more like a tradeoff than a flaw
pretty sure with relentless youre locked from dashing for the same amount of frames, at least according to nyaa
who is nyaa anyway?
i mean, i know that he's one of the members of this channel, but who is he?
just an active user
that has a ton of hours in the game and has made some steam user guides
tested out lots of stuff
funny i didn't find any useful guides on steam
she btw
actually its just the 1 guide
which lists some god recommendations for the 6 weapons
but definitely pretty experienced with the game, knows stuff about how things are calculated on the back end
so the same boons for both attack and special
really?
i wouldn't guess
ok i'm gonna look up this guide now
yeah, well, i saw it
it's VERY basic
for people who haven't even invested more than 10 hours in the game
Hello, I don't understand certain things, for example those green numbers beside shown on perk or upgrade screen, don't know how I can explain without showing a picture which I can't upload here
you can upload the image to like a private discord server and link it here
the green number shows you how effective each boon is
so if a boon says increases attack and theres a green 40%, it means youll deal 40% more attack damage if you select that boon
copy link, not copy message link
wrong button
you have to right click the image itself
so the first one means that when your attacks inflict doom, itll do 50 points of damage
doom is a status effect that deals damage after a few seconds
the green is the amount
That's base damage. It can be increased
I understand now
that green number goes up when the boon is higher rarity (purple or blue) or when you use poms of power on it
Slicing shot for example hits pretty rapidly
which are those red circle items
^
it does kinda tell you what it indicates 
Okay thanks for explaining ๐
it might make more sense if the numbers were placed like that and the colons were more visible
but then they wouldnt be lined up nice nice
Wow finally beat stage 3... Im getting deeper and game is getting better and better... Now im in and Know how to build and watch up for dou, thx a lot for the hlp
Congrats! Hades is a really fun game and just beat hades recently as well
Took me 19 hours to get my first clear but it was well worth it
what are the most fun aspects that I should put my titan blood into?
I dont have any of the secret ones
well its kinda subjective
also how much titan blood do you have/how easily do you get it?
if you like the base rail then eris is great
is eris the one with the manual reload?
ohh
it goes up to a 75% increase and this affects almost every form of damage
zeus attack and tidal dash is usually the go to build for eris
what makes tidal dash so good?
in addition to zeus attack you want static discharge and hopefully zeus' legendary boom and youll get a lot of damage
athena dash is still a good beginner choice just for the safety
or choice in general
Sure. Poseidon dash is way more offensive. Athena is a security blanket
and leaves more space for human error
yeah its good if you need it
Use what you want
But Poseidon dash on Eris SLAPS
like you may not miss Athena dash as much as u think
zeus attack and static discharge is already enough damage
what does poseidon zeus duo boon do
Lightning bolt tacked on to knock back effects but you donโt need it
tidal dash breaking wave jolted and attack on Eris good enough
like it says, knockback effects make enemies get slapped by lighting
if it comes up I'll probably take it
another god thats great to get with eris is aphrodite
You need a non dash Poseidon boon to get it just FYI
And if you get dash then breaking wave
thatโs super based just so that lol
Nice
slap aphro on special and get a zeus/poseidon/aphro/athena call and you can get smouldering air which makes your call charge to a single gauge in 5 seconds
got my first run with the shield
27 attemps, no win so gar @runic halo
But getting closer
Nice
But the first 20 attemps i Just played. Did not watched Codex or know how to create dou boons ๐
Duo boons are a bit obscure tbh
not really
Agree.. Im Not a big Reader in games, i Just play and most skip ๐
So i didnt take that deep Look in the Codex
But now the mechanics in my mind and 2nd time in a row i came stage 4.
But last Boss in stage 3 always pretty Hard for me.
Beginning is good but then they catch me
specifically take out asterius before getting theseus down to half hp
Ah ok good to know
One question to bow... Is Holding Attack still Attack for boons?
yeah. thered be no point in doing it if it reduced your damage
which weapon is best for magaera shield or spear?
best to try them both out
ok
in magaera boss fight can i won if only concentrate on boss without small enemies?
like ignoring the adds she spawns?
yes
well yeah of course you can. you dont need to kill them to kill her
but theyre gunna get in the way if you dont kill them
ok thank u
Another question, how to get companions?
Same question
Raise your relationship with certain characters
Max out/reach a certain relationship level with Meg, Than, Dusa, Skelly, and Achilles
And Sisyphus
The grind is real
Not all at once just focus on one of those and youโll get one
I recommend aiming for meg and than, though they take more hearts, but Sisyphus is a good first
Question... The Deadalus boons are all random right? I don't need to have a prereq to get them? I'm still missing one for the bow and one for the rail and they just never seem to appear.
Some upgrades can't appear on some aspects, and some are unique to hidden aspects.
Ohhhhh... That would explain it then! I have been using the same aspect for those two weps
Also some hammer block others from apearing too
ohhh I didn't think about that
damn, 38 runs and I still can't beat last boss ๐ฆ
With what builds people usually beat him at least once?
First stage is easy, but second stage is annihilating me
well first runs are often scuffed af 
second phase mainly you should be either hiding behind pillars or hugging dad when he uses lasers
and when he summons pots, go around breaking them to make a safe area or have dad break em himself
hmm, interesting, will try that. Ty
First time I beat him was with Flurry Jab Spear, but as UnAnanas said early runs have mediocre builds at best most of the time, I got a lot of my early wins with Chiron and Heartrend tho, like up to 20-30 wins, it's somewhat safe at that level and does good dmg
merciful end stonks
lol the first stage is worst for me
for me too
there is a lot going on
i typed a whole paragraph and got nerfed by the censor bot
pain
it is!
So this is super noobish but I just learned that you can mod Hades... I mean, I don't typically use mods or anything in any other game but the fact that so many mods exist is just interesting to me
I wonder if you can change the stygian sword to a lightsaber
Changing the weapons visually is one of the harder things to do. The modders don't have the 3d models so they'd have to paint over every single frame of animation

something something the software and stuff used for animations in the game is super expensive from a modder's perspective
rip
hi
hello
Donโt have that I think
Still havenโt beaten the final boss
coronacht is the bow i believe
they prolly dont have the titan blood for chiron
@austere prism if you just have the base bow then you can just stick doom on attack and athena on special. the base dps isnt amazing without good hammers or titan blood investment so a doom build works pretty well, especially if you get merciful end and impending doom
Weeeeel I kinda spent all my Titan blood on aspect of zag
how much? zag bow is great
if you have aphro attack then put artemis on either special or cast or do the same with artemis attack and put aphro on dash or special
aphro has the highest base atk% of all the gods and gives access to two really good duo boons
and solid boons in general
weak is pretty huge for increasing survivability yeah
Thereโs also other that increase damage done to weak enemies
with aphro attack you also want to get zeus on your call and if you get smouldering air youve pretty much won the run
also flurry shot plus double or triple shot is really good dps
Charm lock boss would be nice lol
since after losing charm his next attack will have no wind up
and the duration is really short
yeah ig
though tbh fast weapons dont really like aphro attack to begin with
ig you could go aphro special chiron or flurry bow
In pvp, stunlock tends to do well
theyre ranged too which is safer
So just wondering
But I suppose the dmg might not be as ideal
And might not do td3 well
110 runs in and I finally tried Charon's aspect. lol It's definitely much better than the other aspects I've tried but Coronacht is still the worst weapon for me. >_>
why do all people confuse charon with chiron even im not safe from that
Erm
When you upgrade the aspect of demeter
for the fists
why does it sometimes do 180 dmg
And the others 270
it's at heroic rarity
Lv
4
I still canโt get pass Hydra. Like, I do a lot of dmgs but Iโm also talking a lot of dmgs and just die.
it alternates between the ground pound and its unique attack, so stay away when necessary
the pillars can block projectiles
well its pretty much just dont stand right under the hydra. the hydra wont repeat the same attack back to back so if it does a ground slam then that means you can go up close and attack
if it does a non ground slam attack that means you should be prepared for the ground slam, so approach the hydra and bait out the slam then dash away before committing the attack
when the small heads come out, start from one side and work towards the other. But, if one side starts getting too crowded don't be afraid to move away
Divine Dash is your friend, esp with the purple one that send shockwaves fanning out
Yea, I finally got to the third part of the small heads and it became a bullet hell game. The second part was a lot but the third part was a bullet hell.
small heads follow the same pattern too
I only have two lives and I use both of them on the second floor
did anyone feel like they were getting worse at the game in the beginning? i used to consistently make it past meg no problem, now i keep using up all my death defy before asphodel ๐ฆ
Na getting better each run, i hope ๐
overconfidence i suppose
Iโm slowly getting better, at least I donโt lose a live from Meg anymore
should spoiler the final boss name
its mostly just having a good build and learning his attacks ||one thing to note is during his laser attack you can hug him really closely and not take danage from them though its risky compared to hiding behind the pillars||
But in games i dont mind cause watching vids and guides and usually i play a game Not cause Story ๐
Oh, I didnโt notice his was talking about the ||final boss, I thought he meant the game itself||
||also uh getting his by his skull cast will give you a debuff doubling the damage you take||
maybe im the one spoilering 
Ok i will try tomorrow ๐ช
I already know each boss because of watching gameplay and such
Oh yeah probably
Bro, I had a very good run but still Hydra kill me, twice. I hate Hydra so much rn
Can I have multiple duo boons?
For example, can I have curse of nausea and down the road get merciful end?
yup!
Awesome
some of them are incompatible with each other, like crystal clarity and cold embrace, but i dont think the two you mentioned are
Yeah only related ones are incompatible except for two
Hunting Blades and Freezing Vortex are incompatible. Cold Embrace and Crystal Clarity are incompatible. Curse of Drowning and Mirage Shot are incompatible. Ice Wine and Scintilating Feast are not incompatible.
So it only matters for casts too
Other duos are all compatible
I dont even think there is a hard cap on boons you can get
You can get dozens
Ice wine and Scint Feast can be gotten together
not incompatible
I noticed but dk if OP meant it
true 
Hey, what do i need to do the weapon upgrades with the blood?
I unlocked all the weapon and beat the game twice, I dont see the option
did you just unlock all the weapons? after a run after doing that skelly should have a dialogue bit then if you go to a weapon and equip it you can interact with its empty slot area
oh thats probably it then, thanks! Ill try doing a run
Is ambrosia worth trading in for titanโs blood while Iโm still trying to upgrade my aspects?
Or should I save my ambrosia for other things first?
I havenโt encountered needing to spend it yet
It's fine to trade in Ambrosia for Titan Blood. Maybe keep a couple on hand, though.
Stronger weapon aspects will help you gain more resources, anyway.
Thatโs what I was thinking
Are the other uses of it important?
I havenโt even come across any yet
Any in particular that I should prioritize?
you can give it to npc's for whom youve reached and unlocked their locked hearts which is after like 6 or so nectars. in particular meg, than, dusa, sisyphus, skelly, and achilles will give you a useful item after doing so
Tysm. I had been gifting Cerberus and Nyx the most, but Iโm still gifting nectars.
Iโm missing some keepsakes. Are there NPCs that Iโve missed giving nectar to, or are those the rewards from gifting ambrosia?
I canโt think of any NPCs I havenโt given nectar to. Even Chaos, Charon, and Thanatos have gotten at least one
theres like two keepsakes you need to further progress the story for to unlock
understandable that u wanna gift Cerberus
but most npcs, the more nectars u gift them, the more dialogues they would unlock
and Cerberus... well i think u can imagine not much dialogues u would get from him... ๐ฆ
you can track your nectar/ambrosia progress from the hearts bar beside the character in the Codex
you basically have to fill all of them up
Is flurry shot or perfect shot better for a fully upgraded aspect of zag?
They are both viable picks, in terms of dps I think flurry does a bit more, but it also removes the whole powershot mechanic so it takes some getting used to, what is the third option that you got offered?
Like piercing I think
hi
You
You show up, say hi, say you have a question then never ask
You've done that like 4 times
After unlcoking every weapon, they can be used to unlock and upgrade your aspects
nice
so which is the first weapon i should upgrade?
im between the spear, the shield or the gloves
piercing volley?
cause bow's basic attack is already piercing
Which ever one you like the most
yeah, no one can actually tell you what to upgrade

and you will have every weapon and aspect fully maxed out some day
well guess i will do that
thx
what is the best aspect for the spear? ( huge fan of the spear )
Achilles is considered really good overall, it doesn't make the others bad, Achilles just has a lot going for it, atleast if you're not pushing it to the extremes
get all weapons then check the spear after equiping it on the house
Personally I love hidden aspect Itโs just a bit harder to use imo
I FINALLY BEAT HYDRA AND STILL HAVE MY TWO LIVES!!!!
Now, Iโm scared of the next boss because I forgot what it was
Keep on going @leaden whale you Rock!
And WOW, finally I DID IT! 3rd try and im Out! I bet last one...
My really first finish
I fought ||the bull|| for the first time and I survive with only 2 healths
with asterius its mostly important to quickly get behind him when he attacks since hes locked in a direction after the wind up and if you dash to the side youll likely get hit by the waves he makes in his second phase
also dw elysium doesnt count as a spoiler
Oh ok
also in his second since he can turn around and send the waves behind him you should use one dash to get behind and save the other to dodge those
While, Iโm still in my run, can yโall tell me the third boss and the tips to beat it?
It's better if you get surprised 
But Iโm doing so good rn, I donโt want it to be ruined
Well there is quite a bit to cover, it's basically the bull you just fought and another annoying guy
just focus on asterius and not the other guy first
Yea, Theseus can throw spears at you and shield your attacks so you gotta be cautious
only after killing asterius you want to start hitting the annoying one
Oh ok, so I have to survive the boss and the rest the the floors with very low health
elysium is usually a barrier for newer players btw so dw if youre having more difficulty with it than other regions
Tbh, the chambers isnโt the problem and the bull wasnโt really hard, it just I was having a hard time learning and fighting at the same time. But that boss will probably dmg me more than Hydra
So, I reach to the boss and I died to the boss. Rip to that run
Last Boss?
The Elysium boss
||should talk about heat in #h1-discussion its a spoiler in this channel||
Do people dash into the lava in the second area alot or is it just me
Maybe I suck
yeah i do, but i kind of suck too
i think as you get more familiar with the game and consistently make it to asphodel, the big thing to overcome is the twitchiness, always wanted to mash attack and dash
the runs i've been more patient and methodical, i survive way longer
mash button but with purpose 
The best part is dashing into lava after an encounter ends with pierced butterfly keepsake
What should I trade with wretched broker what's the top priority for the beginners to get?
Iam new to the gane
Game*
Titan blood
But it isnโt really worth the grind
And you have to get to Elysium
I think
Is there a point to giving hades nectar
Yep, post-epilogue
If you're going for platinum you'll have enough nectar lying around eventually you might just as well do it. Nothing affects what you see in the epilogue though.
Mhhhh shield rly Not my weapon
Took me ages to get used to shield too, especially if trying to go fast.
25% of players on PSN platinum Hades!!
Impressive retention.
Sprint+Attack , Attack, hold Attack?
ME..... I am so bad at this and I have the pact punishment for lava and trap damage on. EM2 with that on is just death for me.
Nectar is easy enough to come by tbh. @full bone
What builds are good for the sword
artemis attack and aphrodite special -> heart rend duo boon
artemis attack and athena special -> deadly reversal duo boon (you can also get athena dash)
pretty much anything works on the sword, though it is a little hammer dependant
if you get flurry slash, definitely something like zeus attack
Played the lyre until i get atleast 3 dialogues for about 15 runs now. The music did get better though after the 6th run in those 15 runs it never changed. Am i supposed to do something to get me complete the prophecy?
keep playing until zagreus say "i can play"
Well damn thats gonna take a lot of time
you can sit down for like 20 mins
put on a youtube video and mash the a button
that's what i did at least 
im not really a fan of these repeat clicking the same button with no change a large number of times things
except for petting cerberus because hes a good boy
hello
hello
how are u doing?_
good i think ^^
nice
Here does anyone know any myths about Hades I have a school project on him
wikipedia is your friend
this is gaem 
the one about Tantalus is underrated
well there are no myths about the game... Yet 
the absence of Hades (character) related stories in itself is funny because people really made a death manager god OC and went "oh no if we talk about him too much we'll manifest him irl"
Nice!!
There is one (1) myth ABOUT Hades. He was a fairly new creation of the Greeks so it makes sense
Originally the three god-brothers were basically rolled up into one character. The mycanean Poseidon. The mycanean Poseidon was the earthquake god, king of the gods, and the God of the dead. Later on he was split into three different characters, those being Zeus, Hades and the modern Greek Poseidon
It does change btw
The harp playing
Just keep trying
Isnt there like nothing about Zagreus too
Zagreus does exist in some versions of the myth. To believe that the Olympian myths are a single coherent thing is a mistake, there are just more or less well known versions.
I know I should learn other weapons but I really like the spear tho
That's fine. You probably dont even have the whole weapon unlocked yet
So you might find one that you like on another weapon
Spear for example can be really good with casts
so im a new player! and really I only joined as I have 1 question, how do I make the bow good? i have tried many runs with it and just I hate it! compared to the rest of the weapons (other then the gun which is second worst weapon) its the worst weapon in the game it feels like, shots are slow, you cant move while aiming (same reason I dont like the gun) doing a dash hit is almost impossible to hit.. whats to like about the bow?
dash strike
dash in circles around the enemies.
Yeah
I am but what auto aim???
if an enemy is getting close, just release and dash away
Auto aim isnt on kbm I dont believe
dash strike is almost as useless as it's q
what
go to the menu, there should be a check box that says aim assist
Nah dash strike decreases your shot charge length
dash strike is almost impossible to hit with
increases speed. decreases charge time.
Yeah
shots are slow
Just practice
use dash strikes
dash - press attack - use cursor to aim at the enemies
?
you can change attack direction mid-charge
how am I supposed to hit a target when im moving and dont know where im shooting from?
Kbm does probably make it harder but you'll get used to it.
No you dash then charge then dash
i dont have any trouble shooting enemies with dash strikes
when you're charging the shot you're standing still, so use the mouse to aim
You shoot off a power shot then dash with it
That's how you get them off quick
You can also get hammers that change it
wdym you dont know where youre shooting from
Like flurry shot. Which stops powershots entirely but you rapidly shoot even while dashing
Though you dont like the gun either
I agree. It's lower DPS than the other weapons and the "extra range advantage" is almost useless when enemies can hit you from anywhere on screen or even off screen. And you can just stunlock them with the other close range weapons anyway. I kind of like using the aspect that lets you cast with your attack, but even then I still find it difficult. Having a dash boon really helps with this weapon when you need quick damage.
The rail is also tricky, but I like it better. The rail's special is really good, you should use it if you're not using it already.
all the bow slander is making me take +50% dmg
bow ofc aint good dps if you dont powershot or build it properly
now that I've tried kbm, it might be a kbm thing. I liked bow way before I knew what builds were
I was using powershot.
What attack boon
kbm?
keyboard and mouse
Attack boon really matters, especially for powershots
For example you could do Artemis attack, twin shot, point blank shot
bruh its not that hard
baj plays with kbm 
i just suck at kbm games in general so ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
altough i think it's much easier with a controller
but that's subjective nonetheless
I don't know where my dash will end usually or where the enemy will be by the time my dash ends, usually I miss most of my shots as it is since they are moving while I aim or I need to suddenly dash away as someone gets to close before im ready to shoot my shot
Well that's something you just get used to
Just spend more time playing the game
tbh thats more of a personal issue than bow being bad
You will learn
these arenโt like bow things youโre just green
when you're charging the regular attack, you can use the mouse to aim, so it doesn't matter if the enemy moves
as hard as it is to say...
it feels like the bow just needs something extra, the game is too fast paced for a weapon as slow as it is
git gud 
and I have no clue how im going to beat the third boss with it..
again, you just need to use it more
It does get something extra when you upgrade weapons
i think the controller auto aim makes ranged weapons a lot easier
True
like you said you donโt know where your dash ends up?
becuase you don't need to look where you're clicking
tbh I have been upgrading it, the upgrades don't seem all that good or I just haven't foind the good ones.. unless you dont mean the temp hammer upgrades
the bow isnt slow is the thing
hammers are not upgrades
and that extra thing is the range
No, permanent upgrades using titan blood
There are good hammers and there are good permanent upgrades
Like twin shot. Very good.
ah im out of titan blood and have no clue how to get more as ive gotten one with all my weapons
||Aspect of Rama|| very good
imo the best option is probably to just not use the bow, and use weapons you like more
Yeah
its only if you cant position yourself well when the charge time is an issue
Use it when you get bored
that sort of thing takes practice
I do but I want to be able to you know use all the weapons
well then you pretty much just need to learn to dash
imagine suggesting ||rama|| to someone who thinks base bow is slow
||Rama is a slow aspect but honestly it gets some of the fastest room clears.||

bruh
well.. uh the way I dash and fight is just non stop clicking the spacebar, I dont watch where im going to land (which leads me into lava more often then not on the second floor) but I can usually get away without taking any damage and killing everything before they can even attack once (unless they have armor)
bruh
yeah button mashing wont take you far
You need to improve your dash reflexes then
yeah but at the start of the game you're learning everything at once, like what the enemies are, how casting/boons/bosses feel. So if you use a weapon you play better with, you can focus on learning those things first. Then you can think about other weapons
then, watch where you're going...?
whatโs default bindings for keyboard, what does spacebar do?
dash or smth
cuz like
space = dash
ive gotten to the final boss and gotten him down to like 2 or 3 shots multiple times doing this, tbh idk any other way to play the game
donโt dash spam smh
Practice more
and then usually die as im out of revives
The final boss punishes early dashes
literally the second time I used bow I got past boss 3 for the first time and made it to boss 4. it's just whether the style clicks for you and it's ok if it doesn't
well then its probably clear you should be practicing
you dash early, || dad spins you, or his casts hit you, or lasers hit you||
play slower for a bit and actually focus specifically on your dash usage
...... wait boss 4? i.. oh no
Yeah I immediately liked bow
if youโre dashing into environmental hazards youโre not playing right
if u wanna play an easier bow, i guess Chiron might worth a shot
like enough where itโs constant
||proper dashing can literally stop laser damage entirely||
other then lava I dont dash into any other hazards
i think knowing your dash is the quintessential piece of hades
one atk to lock an enemy, and special will auto aim
basically you need to like, be aware of what youโre doing
and use dashes when needed
your spacebar will thank you
Oh yeah and pro tip
or a button 
I literally learned this a few weeks ago
apparently dash strikes donโt give you iframes
ah was just about to mention that
dont dash strike when trying to evade something
you will still get hit
like final boss. you mentioned reaching that point
I am aware of it, and usually I can dodge all damage, its kinda rare for me to even take damage other then third floor as thats my newest one. usually all the damage I take are the shield guys there just annoying.. and bosses I take damage from bosses, then all my revives go to third and fourth boss where I die on fourth
oh I thought you were saying there was a fifth by saying fourth
asterius and theseus are together boss 3
thats good to know
Invalidates those guys
theres another region after elysium
until their shockwaves go through walls and hit you 
yeah I know, I really don't like them ugh
Yeah shield guys are like the highest damage enemy in Elysium too
Feels like it at least
Even when you have an easy counter they hit hard
yeah and there the only ones that really hurt me, unless I accidentally run into a butterfly
Practice backstabbing in Tartarus
That's good dash practice too
Dont get hit and consistently land bonus backstab damage on enemies with backs
What are the big orange guys called again? Do those
make sure to pay attention to how long it takes and what distance you need to be for enemies to start attacking you
one of the most important skills to learn is predicting enemies instead of having to react to them
the main reason I like my strategy is I can stun lock large groups of enemies at once by dashing back and forth between them
Ideally you will dash to make enough distance that you get powershots
and avoid basiaclly all damage as dash recharge is really short it feels like
Do they always need to be stun locked?
just know that relying on stunlocking wont improve your skills and wont work when against bosses or armored enemies
Ideally you just do enough damage to kill them asap
Once their armor is off
Practice backstabs in Asphodel, on bloodless
bosses just became learn and dodge, armored enemies are just knock them around until that armor breaks tbh