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Epic

Beat hades in 23 minutes earlier, is that good?
how many clears you have?
Like 7, I averaged 30 minutes before that
if it’s improvement, then it’s good
Alright
Oh alright
Yeah my goal is to get under 15 at some point, not quite good enough yet though
If you took a screenshot of the victory screen, post it in #h1-victory-boasting as well.
Advice for new players: dusa is the main character you should talk to whenever you get the chance to

Shes hot
Basketball
Can sombody make a dating sim of hades
Can you not be horny?
Lmfao
Keep it clean, please
Ok so I'm in Elysium with the Ares keepsake and I have a choice between an pom upgrade and the ares boon. My question is... if I skip the Ares boon and go for the pom upgrade, will the next boon be the Ares or do I miss out on the benefit of the Ares keepsake by skipping the boon?
the next boon you find will be ares
assuming that you find another boon after you skip this one
Right, I'm early in Elysium so I think that's likely
yep, there's the risk that you never see another boon, but if you're early its likely that you will see the boon
Noice.... got the boon of chaos that gives +70% gold, plus I have the alt skill that grants a % of gold every floor. I'm rich!! LOL
@sweet root interesting the next option is between a health upgrade and a hermes boon... figured if any boon showed up it would be Ares... any thoughts?
hermes isn't in the same boon pool as the other gods, he's counted there differently
aw gotchu
yeah hermes counts separately
and only shows up twice per run max
same with hammers, you can only get two
||the styx shop is an exception to this rule, of course||
Gotcha, good to know!
Quick question, I’ve beaten 9 runs and I'm aware something happens on the 10th. Can I still play on this save file after I beat it for the 10th time? I still have a lot I want to do.
No spoilers please
you can keep playing
K thx
Does the game ever actually restrict you from continuing on the same save file? Even if you get the absolute true ending wherever it may be?
can i get some advice on what I should prioritize at the shopkeeper in the temple of styx? I have 1125 gold... personal best actually so even the diamond is up for grabs... thoughts?
you dont ever finish your save
So it's basically endless in that sense, then?
yea
I mean at a point you run out of new story I would persume
But otherwise you can keep going
That's nice
yeah you run out of significant story but can still play
Does the yarn of ariadne apply to boons purchased from the shopkeeper?
if you're confident you can win with your current build grab the diamond
Personally I like to take permanent progression items when I can because I know they can be used regardless of the outcome of the run, but it's up to you.
Get the diamond if you still need a diamond
also yes, yarn applies to any boon
sorry i just started playing recently... how many diamonds do I need?
Hey guys I need some help
I feel like I used one to free Orpheus
224 for absolutely everything
I upgraded my aspects for my gun and it only has one active like I have all 3 upgraded but I don’t have my extra ammo and I don’t have the reload damage buff does only one work at a time or should all 3 (on Xbox btw)
Well like, only if you wanna buy the music
1 at a time
yes, im counting music and decorations and such
You can only equip one aspect at a time
work orders only are 52 diamonds
Huh that's not a lot
Check the aspect you wanna use then hit whatever is the confirm button
There should be a fist icon on the one you have
wait, it is not 224. its more like 157. my math was somehow awful?
Yeah that did seem like quite a surprisingly high number, even counting rennovations
How did you manage a difference of 67
Thank you guys
Gameplay wise, diamonds are the least used premium currency, but never hurts to get more since they can be traded
okay its definitely 157 lol i mustve put the music stand amount in there twice when i was calculating the total
Is it just me, or is chill kind of useless?
I feel that way too
slowin down enemies is pretty good, especially if you have a slow weapon
and on a fast weapon you can arctic blast
Gotcha. I've been exclusively playing with shield until I beat the game for the first time....
Yeah chill stacks.
Was thinking about restarting but I'll keep going with it
What do you think is the best keepsake to start the run with?
I think that depends on your preference, I used Old Spiked Collar most of my time playing until recently when I got another I prefer.
if you want to get a build going, you can start with a keepsake of a god
I exclusively start the game with owl pendant for that sweet divine dash 
which aspect is best for the sword?
Nemesis I think is the best out of all of them
It performs decently even without maz blood
And it stacks real nice with Artemis for high numbers
Poseidon is good if ur going for a cast build
if you want to go for tankiness, hidden sword is good
Do you have ||Arthur|| yet?
I've been finding hidden sword to be really good personally, actually transformed the Sword from one of the worst weapons for me to one of my most liked.
nope
if its that good then ill invest the blood into unlocking it ig
5 titan blood to unlock the hidden aspect i think
i think is 3?
Quick question. What does the skull icon mean under the different icons for doors? Some have it and some dont
it means it will be a more difficult room with greater reward
Oh ok ,thanks
Usually rooms like that host some sort of 'bigger' armoured foe or some other more challenging thing.
Ah, ok good to know. Thought it maybe implied a boss
Oh wow that's a nice chart!
Does sparrow know we still use the chart
does a % increase to attack damage affect the bull rush shield ability
ye
I got all the weapons and mirror upgrades what else do i do with my chtonic keys?
just trade them?
there is some cosmetics late game but yeah pretty much
I like to think that nectar is made out of liquid keys
How to get true ending?
Do the not true ending first, and then just keep playing, it'll start eventually
Oh alright, just beat hades for the 10th time. Was wondering if there was something specific to do the true one
Thx
there is no "true ending" only an epilogue
||tl;dr talk with mom and hades until they give you a prophecy||
Alright, thx
how do i get more ||titan blood|| ?
beat da game
or buy it from the shop at the end of the game
or buy it from the friend in the lounge
This is great! You make it or is it from a site?
sparrow, one of our mods, made it
Very nice
Have a quick question if you don't mind. I'm in a room and instead of an exite there is a red circle that says return?
Never been this far in so dunno if that's normal
I dunno, there are poison rats lol
you get sent back to the start, and you get to do another tunnel
the start of the biome, i mean
Oh ok, interesting
It threw me off lol
Are thise Cure puddles for the poison I assume?
yep! poison can stack up pretty quick so you're gonna wanna get rid of it quick
although the best advice is to not get poisioned
👍
With the Elysium boss fight, should I focus on Asterius or Theseus first?
I always focus on Asterius first unless I’ve got ridiculous DPS
Theseus is a bit of a push around once he’s finished
The Coronacht build I'm using does have ridiculous dps.
Starting with asterius is much easier if you dont have a lot of experience
going for theseus first means you're fighting both of them at once since asterius will stay on you like glue pretty much
Aspect of Chiron, Aphro Attack, Dio Special, 52% crit chance on all attacks rn
Hangover deals 50 per tick
Ah okay. Thanks. I've equipped the Acorn keepsake to make it easier.
Hey all! I’ve started 2 days ago.. having lots of fun. Just got the the surface.. not killed hades just got to the bit where Cerberus is.
I’ve unlocked aspects now and have 6 Titan blood. I enjoy all weapons to be fair.. which is the most efficient place to put them to give myself a boost?
I'd suggest you to check some aspect tier list/guides on YT and decide for yourself what you enjoy the most and want to first level to the max
Some aspects have insane difference when they are not upgraded to when they are maxed out
oof, picked the 9 minute punishment and i have to do a 4 minute hades fight now, yikes
The time punishment is something I'd not recommend for new players
I’ve looked and most seem quite out of date. I like the look of the shield ones but supposedly chaos isn’t so good now? The other I like the look of is arthur
yeah, its just that i thought i could beat it with aegis
i use aspect of zagreus on aegis, its p good to consistently get to hades and/or beat him
welp, wish me luck
Later on though its one of the best punishments I'd say as long as you're sure your overall clearing speed is good
With Arthur is it true I need to put 5 points in spear and then 5 points in sword?
Goooood luck! You got this!
Honestly cannot remember how I unlocked arthur aspect but Im playing it all the time now and its really fun. Not top tier though
I'm pretty sure nothing changed related to how unlock things, most changes were more related to balance overall so if you will find solid source or two on that it should be true
Beat his a :D
1m44s for his ||second phase||
got enough 200 more health (421 max) and 2 more death defiance
so its just a dps test
Push the dps then yeah
Mission failed, u'll get him next time
also is trading ambrosia to titan blood worth it?
im not an expert but i trade almost all of my ambrosia to titan blood
idrk what its for so
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ambrosia will be used in later parts of the game is all I can say
But there will be ways for u to get more of it so I'd say it won't hurt at all to trade some for Titans blood
what mirror of night talents are worth switching for the other side?
There is a very good video on the topic on YT
Have you got a link?
||Ambrosia’s uses|| and ||hidden aspects|| are most likely spoilers in this channel
I escaped Elysium for the first time
Question about Theseus
He summons help from a god when in his second stage. What happens if you have a boon from every god?
Is there any way to know which path has a satyr sack
I've read somewhere that he'll default to summoning Artemis for some reason in that scenario
He's guaranteed to summon artimes if you have all of them
A Well of Charon can appear in a random room and offer a health regen item for you to buy, but otherwise I think you're limited to the fountain in the room with the Satyr sack
Can't be the 1st one
Final boss fight I think whooo
50/50 for the rest
It was my second room
Wait did I beat the game?
Is that it?
OH GOD
Yeah that's a hard fight
Any tips on how to beat the last boss?
Memorize his patterns basically and don't over commit
Why do those stupid skulls have such a large explosion radius
||His non swipe melee attack has little winding up so don't stay in his front for too long||
You can dash through the wave
As much as possible
Oh sorry!
so i have guan yu 5 blood invested in twin fists beat the final boss once and talked to the bull 1 time and he mentioned the 1st part of the prophecy but when i met him the 2nd time i didnt get the prophecy
am i missing something?
to get aspect of the fist
the name of the hidden aspects are spoilers
but if you have the requisites, you are at mercy of rng
so may take some runs for the bull to give you the phrase
How do I unlock the ability to reroll boons if I don’t like what I get?
that's green version of an mirror upgrade @arctic plinth
Its called Fated persuation, at the bottom of the mirror upgrades
Ok cool. Guess I’m gonna need a lot of keys for that
its pretty expensive so I wouldn't recommend it as starter
Yeah, I’ll just roll with what I get for now
it costs 1000 darkness for 1 token and then it gets even more expensive for next ones 😄
Oh, god
Yeah, I’ll just stick to normal progression. Beat the Elysium bosses for the first time today, so I’m pretty close to the end… I think
Yeah, I’m actually now feeling like I can beat the Bonedra pretty easily
last set of skills cost 30 keys iirc
Getting awfully confused here I've got Dusa max hearts, 5 star companion and I've had the permission to use companions versus Hades popup but I still can't use them in the fight? Is there something else I need to do?
Oh fellow dbd gamer here 😄
U can't use companions against Hades himself afaik
These are all spoilers here
Yeah ik you can't initially but I had the whole conversation with him about it yesterday after maxing out Dusa, checked online and I'm supposed to be able to use her now and he's still saying I can't summon help during the fight
.
I'm asking question's as I'm a new player how am I not supposed to ask without spoiling
||Companions|| and ||final boss|| are considered spoilers here
use spoiler mark (||at the start and end of what you want to mark, or highlight text on pc and click the eye icon)
ok guys nevermind thanks for the rulebook I'll just google it again ty
bruh this dude just spoiled ||companions|| for me.
guys is 25 darkness for 3 keys good?
Yes
realy?
you cant buy darkness aside from special offer
but you can freely buy keys with gemstones after getting all the 1st page work orders done
keys arent very useful in general after you unlock all tiers of the mirror and all weapons
i didnt unlocked
i need 2 more keys to buy new gun
i know
Yeah I'd recommend saving up keys whilst you still have use for them for progression
i spend it on third life
When you run out of use for them for progression they're much less important
that's not bad
you always want to get death defiance unlocks as soon as possible
you can get more keys from a run with more DDs
So when maxing out a bond with a character, do you get any benefits?
maxing a bond gives you a cool sticker when checking your keepsakes
||and max bond with gods is needed for the epilogue||
||Yeah I'm finding this to be the most time consuming part of completing the post-game. Any tips on this actually?||
How can you have a boon from all gods?
luck basically, get 3 gods before going a mid shop, next door should be a different god and with a random boon inside the shop you can get 5 gods already, then if your keepsake in tartarus is still not used thats potential 6, after that 2 keepsakes in asphodel and elysium for all gods
zeus, artemis, hermes favors are fairly easy (dialogue about zeus from other gods, dialogue about calisto (i think thats the name) and talk with hermes with maxed keepsake
||demeter|| doesnt need its favor, it counts when you reach the lock
Ahh, alright thanks.
Hi
hello
early game chonk
is the point
when you get enough hp you can just
take something else
Ah man I’m trying to get really hench
I have all my death defiance’s and 7854 obols should I choose patrocles or store
Could use some helpful tips here. Been playing the game the last several days. Have about 30 hours into it. I can only reliably get past the hydra and nothing else. I consider myself a pretty good gamer, but this one has stumped me. Can anyone throw some feedback my direction? I'd love to start getting some clears under my belt.
where are you dying - the next area itself or the boss
The next area.
I feel like I'm just not going aggressive enough.
As far as weapons go, I just pick whichever had the bonus on it at the time.
Trying to be well rounded with everything, but I generally feel like I get farther with the spear and do worse with the bow.
hmm I haven't thought much about generic mobs but here's stuff off the top of my head:
Spreaders (the floating things that shoot purple clumps that explode) - literally a pain. if you have deflect, you can deflect their clumps back to them. if not, kill them as they spawn (they have the smallest spawn circle). once the clumps explode, you can also pop them with regular attacks
Large chariots - maybe try to observe the pattern? they kinda charge a bit, then pause a bit. if you get behind them, they can't run you over
Flamewheel (small chariots) - any attack with a slight range can actually pop them without hurting you. like spear's regular attack or sword special. if not, lure them to explode on walls by dashing out of the way at the last moment. also works if you dash through a pillar
the humanoid enemies are also a matter of observing attack patterns, then attacking when you have an opening. the respawn is not tied to time - the lil spirits will float over to a weapon left by a previously-killed enemy, and respawn to that type.
more specifically, the archers will shoot the instant the crosshair on you disappears. their arrows have a maximum range, so if you can't get behind an obstacle in time, just dash far far away from them. if you stand real close to them before they put a crosshair on you, they won't attack. from my experience at least.
the shield folks will block front- facing attacks. so get them from behind, or with AoE attacks
copypasta of longspear advice: don't stand in front of them.
the Charon Well item that boosts armor damage can?? help?? probably??
butterfly balls - also a pain. like spreaders, figure out what attacks can clear the butterflies, and go from there.
that's all I have
I think you have a small window of invulnerability after a dash, so you don't need to double-dash as fast as you can
also, dashing over "holes/obstacles" seems to be more efficient, as it gives you more distance than a regular dash
dashing has invincibility frames but dash attacks do not
if you're trying to i-frame an enemy attack do not press your own attack button
unless you have divine dash
what's the Hades Monthly Challenge?
I appreciate the feedback.
check pins in #h1-builds-and-combat
thx
Whats the consensus of getting boons which add extra power to attacks and whatnof?
So for instance if you get a Zeus dash attack, should you essentially buff that up if you keep on getting those boons and do not want the attack/special for it?
with zeus generally you would want more zeus
because it becomes better and better
you need to pair up the core boons to get the duo boons of your choice
to make an appropriate build
the selections you make in the post-escape screen is just for screenshots, right? no real game effect?
ye
Is that the same with all boons? Seriously Zeus Dash ended up carrying me very well (as did Poseidon Special)
zeus is the most obvious case of escaling with more of his boons
others do but not to the zeus lvls
and does "Entry complete" mean that character does not eventually give you a companion? I'm trying to get the companions, but without spoilers/knowing them in advance (if that makes sense)
Entry complete just means that their codex entry is full
Is there a way to see what Daedalus hammer upgrades I have? I just bought the 1 for 2 trade and don’t quite know the names yet
don't the names pop up when you buy the 1-for-2 item?
They do, but I don’t know the names of them all for the rail
then you can check all your boons and upgrades with the Select button
I have the burst fire one. But the other I’m not sure what it was
I might just be dumb. In the middle of last fight so I’ll check once i can
yea, pressing Select doesn't pause T_T
Ahh nvm. I thought it would for sure change my boons. I had delta and the seeking buff. I’m just a dumb sorry
it only changes the upgrades, not the boons from Gods
and you can also check which hammer upgrades you've acquired at least once, in your room, on the table with all the Prophecies
No I understand that, I had to check the security log. It just didn’t change one of my daedelus ones
Also I know the game is a lot of RNG but is there any reason I’d have not seen an Artemis in 20 runs?
I do not lol. I’m trying to get the first row up to max before I work on god ones
What’s the pact of punishment I don’t have it on mine yet and I see on YouTube people say like 40 heat 30 heat what is the heat?
spoiler mark it but yeah that
||tl;dr increase the difficulty to get the boss drop again||
so it can become even harder ;p
it was for @worn thistle 
The low spoiler version of which characters give you ||companions||, is that eventually you will be able to give characters Ambrosia and the first time that you do that they will give you a ||companion|| if they have one to give you.
I see...
mirror skill, dark foresight (counterpart of olympian favor) increases your chances to see more boons, hearts, money, etc while decresing chances to see darkness and other materials for the house
Ahh got it thank you
and keep in mind that if you find 4 gods and none of them is artemis you cant find her in the run anymore
(hermes and chaos not included on those 4)
How will I be able to give characters ambrosia
keep giving nectar until you reach the lock (check the codex), keep talking with them until they ask for a favor, once you clear the lock goes away and you can gift ambrosia
God damn Zeus Attack and Artemis Special and Cast are good with the Fists!
For a certain phase of a boss can I deflect their lasers?
Nope
Ok thanks
What does sunken treasure do? It says gain a random assortment but it doesn't say from what.
From killing enemies or 1 time drop?
It just throws it at you as soon as you get the boon
Ahhh
With rare and up it also can drop things like nectar and diamonds iirc
This game is a struggle
but doesnt it feel so good when you realize you can consistently get past an enemy that you used to struggle so much with?
It's it's but iv been stuck on the darn duo boss for like a week
Have you tried taking the fight slow?
taking it really slow w a shield is what got me to best it my first time, after that u learn stuff. I had like a 58min clear for my first time all the way thru and as of today I've nearly halfed it at 32min run and am still improving. you can do it @glossy mica
Yo should o get explosive return pulverizing blow or charger shot
Don't forget God Mode always exists if you just wanna get past something.
Hi I started Hades a couple of minutes ago and realized that theres a thrust /dash Attack, but i also realized that when you do three slashes and a dash attack almost instantly after the 3rd slash that it looks like he's hitting twice at once is that intended? Didn't try it on enemies cuz I'm not used to fighting yet
For the sword, there's a three-hit combo that ends in a thrust; if you dash-attack directly afterwards, then it'd make sense that two thrusts would appear - one from your combo and one from your dash-attack
And it is presumably intended
return
Actually no, charged shot is better generally
What does the titan blood do?
Skelly dude said something ab infernal arms but idk what that is
you need to get all weapons first
Oh ok
infernal arms are your base weapons
The attacks are basically simultaneously that's why I asked lol I think it's good for optimizing dps but I don't have to worry about that at the moment do i
You don't yeah
You just have to get past Meg
I’m not sure when I learned how to but you gotta buy the rod
where?
To the right of hades when you die
It costs like 1 gem
But I’m guessing you don’t have a diamond
i did
Since you are so new. What I would do is play with a weapon like 20-25 runs until you beat the final boss
You already got it?
Get the “rod of fishing”
Randomly throughout each floor, you’ll see glowing fishing spots
It’s a reaction time minigame, that fakes you out a few times before you have to reel in
i cant find where to buy it 😭
Contractor
OH
Contractors so mean he aint offered me anything of the sort
do i have to do anything to unlock it
It’ll be there eventually
A word you will come to see often
Depends on playstyle
Personally, and rather ironically, I like the bow and fists
Despite them being polar opposites
You’ll find out eventually 🙂
Yeah that happens
i hope i get daedalus
last time i used spear massive spin carried the run
Fair
last time i got it in like the 2nd room
which allowed me to get far enough to learn how to beat the first boss
for the next time, which i did
i went from barely living on the miniboss to being able to clear them in a minute without losing health
jeez ive gotten better at this game
Which miniboss?
the one that throws bombs
They take you a minute?
You’ll get way better
how many power up poms are there
A few
The appeal of this genre of game is learning and improving
Hehe
what does the titans blood do? i got 2
You need to unlock all 6 weapons first
get all weapons, then do a run afterward
ohh
what im really scared for is the boss i actually need to fight
the asphodel one
whoo boy
that one left me on 2 hp
granted i had death defiled but i thought i didnt so
how do i get more darkness and gems?
The best way to get darkness is fighting bosses you've already beaten with the weapons that are all purple looking
The gems are room rewards
poseidon and chaos both have boons that boost darkness received
ohh
You can fight the first boss over and over for darkness pretty fast
i dont really use chaos
Like the portals ?
Most of the time you can get away with not using your special or cast
20-30 health and a few rooms with an extra challenge Arent too bad for the wonderful abilities Chaos can provide
Once you get a sense of which curses are ok and which curses aren't, you can get a lot of great boons
Yeah I avoided them for the first 10 escape attempts
its boss time oh lord
nope
i was fighting the asphodel one haha
i cleared meg in like 45s
rn my build is :
Please don’t say every boon you have
I totally wasnt going to do that
i was only gonna list the notable ones
curse of agony tidal dash and serrated point
theres a bunch more but those ate the only ones that really matter
i hate that every run i get the dionysus nectar thing i never get nectar
XD i always pick his other boons
Eventually you get a thing where every nectar you pick up gives you a random Pom level, which makes that boon way better
also should i ever take coin rooms?
Charon can have some great stuff, so yeah occasionally
Really depends, I sometimes save money for later since the shops will give better rewards later in your run but mostly will take the other reward
I tend to go after the money pretty often. Usually because I got a choice of money or something I actively don't want
I roll money and usually regret it when I get something worse
And that is why you use Fated Persuasion instead
also is there any perk to fighting minibosses cause i always avoid their rooms
XD why so I can roll commons into more commons
They have better stuff
Higher rarity boons, etc
Mini bosses are also more predictable there's less variety
my luck is fantastic so immediately after i left charons shop i got 3 coins rooms in a row
at least i found a fountain 😭
Nice
i found another shop thpugh so its all good
charon had free heals pomegranate and poseidon so its all good
this shop has no mini store thouh :(
OH MY GOSH wait this is the last room
Before the boss room Theres always a shop
ohh
oh god this fight is gonna be hard
Eh, Lernie’s not too bad
It was.
You died?
i was in elysium 😭
Oh, those two
HYPNOS IS SO RUDE??
Yeah they’re a roadblock for most
Yeah
is there prerequisites?
Nope, it’s just there eventually
ofc to rub salt in the wound megaera isnt here 😭
Nyx hasn’t been here for the last few times I’ve gone back even though I really need to talk to her
It happens
Especially with someone you meet later
i looked it up and it says i have to go to the ||temple of styx?????|| no idea where that is
i just wanna FISHH
Oh right
Yeah you might have to get past twink and twunk
should i upgrade my fountains or get money pots
Money pots
u right
i can get a contractors desk soon
NOOO THE GAME WANTS ME TO USE A BOW
(as in its a darkness item)
The fists’ll be right up your alley then
Bone hourglass?
i could use the much better old spiked collar, but a homie wouldnt like that
Charon doesn’t really care about much
Except money, I guess
this helps him
i spend more money on his stuff bc they last longer
ofc the run where i have my worst weapon is the one where i get instant hammer 😭
It's all about the egg
how does the bows dash attack work?
Faster draw speed, less damage
also how do i clear first boss with the bow bc im not used to fighting bosses with it
the first time i fouht her the bow held me back surprisingly
By getting gud
u right
this may be a good thing for me bc i need to get better at not spamming dash attack
i just found some dude ive never seen before
Elysium?
hes such a lad he gave me so much darkness
Yall, do i take a heart container or artemis
ooh that was the right choice
meg with bow time
i actually did
but i wasted death defied sooo
asphodel may be an issue
Try avoiding the lava
Weak
i almost died in the 2nd room
its not for me haha
ohh i just realized the point of this miniboss is that she freezes u while he stomps on u
most of the time i kill them both in 30s
i mean it worked cause i have 10hp and then immediately died in the next room but
i heard the bow has good aspects, is that true?
Very
yup i say every aspect is at least decent or amazing
even base bow is nice but boring ww
i hope i get them soon
i accidentally misclicked and gave away 5 for a nectar…. never again
Never say never
That is the only late-game use for keys
maybe again?
There we go
Yes you really should
Dionysus and Zeus specifically
You’ll get there. The base bow is tricky and is very hammer reliant, but it’s got two very fun aspects
And calls are great - Poseidon’s aid is one of my favs, especially if I also get rip current and can spam it
It’s a free extra source of damage
But don’t get discouraged - on average people get their first win around 30-40 attempts
me, over here with first escape on #12
Advice: Don't use posideons call on keyboard. It doesn't control very well for some reason
Better advice: don’t use kbm
bad advice
i play on switch, will take your word for it
but even then, still works as a panic button
For the Mirror Prophecy, I still have Stubborn Defiance and High Confidence left.
Any advice?
Advice for completing?
Get Athena
When you have a room with an athena reward, intentionally die
Just put those two as the only pact active and go with only that
You can get an extra defiance
Which pact?
Athena dash, Ares attack and you got a safe Merciful End run
IF your stubborn defiance charge for that room was used
@sudden steppe it’s the mirror
not the pact of punishment
My bad, it’s the mirror
And high confidence - just prioritize health early, you’ll be fine
Just run with your normal mirror setup, except change only those two
Don’t overthink it, just do what you’ve been doing
If you’ve won a few and have the mirror unlocked
^
you’ll be fine
Also for stubborn defiance if your health drops below 30 percent, once you clear the room kill yourself (lava, elysium eggs) and you’ll get some free health for the next room (it may not seem like a big deal, but if you get 10 extra health per room doing this, that’s like, 400 free healing)
Eggs?
Lmfao
Yeah, those egg bomb things that respawn
Ik what you mean I just think it’s funny
I have never referred to them, personally
So I fully maxed my relationships with Ares and Charon. What happens now?
the rest of em?
No I mean what happens when you max your relationship with someone. Is it different for each character?
yeah a few of them have a thingy they give you but most of them just give you a little chibi symbol next to their keepsake
how to fist kekw
its the only weapon i havent completed game with yet
mainly because i never use it
it just doesnt seem all that fun to ora something up close :/
it is difficult to be up close, gotta learn to dash well
if you dash without attacking, you can't be hit until your dash ends
yeah iframe shenanigans
but if you press attack as you're dashing, you can be hit
being careful about that has helped me a lot in fist runs
aight
Quick question, is there a “trick” to fishing? I keep getting it “to early.”
you gotta wait for a big splash and a flash of white
Guess I’m not waiting long enough. I hit the button when I feel the vibration. That’s wrong then?
You're reeling it in when the fish is nibbling wait for it to bite
Is it pretty noticeable when it happens then?
Yes it is
Smh, controllers and their fancy "vibrations".
I couldn’t imagine playing a game without vibration, would be so strange now lol
@boreal furnace @slow ferry appreciate it guys
What does vibration add? Like the first comment was a joke but actually what does it add?
Feedback
In games in general it adds quite a bit, depending on the genre
Every once in awhile I’ll play a game that doesn’t have the function and it feels so strange not having the feedback from shooting or from driving and accelerating
Ever since Star Fox 64 came bundled with a rumble pack, I couldn’t go back 😂
In Hades for instance..with everything going crazy on screen at points, it’s nice not to have to look at my guy to make sure nothing is hitting me. I’ll simply feel it and know to gtfo of dodge lol
And honestly, it just helps with the immersion factor
Thats just me tho
Yea me too no vibration feels weird as hell to me especially in shooting games
Got to third boss whilst playing with the fists for the first time
Zeus Attack and Call, Artemis Special and Cast, Ahprodite Dash
Then stacks and seemed to work extremely well 🙂
Funnily enough I ran into a different version of the Hydra which spammed the ground fire stuff 🤔🤔
yep, theres a bunch of types of hydras! You can tell them apart by the aesthetics on the head
Starting to get the hang of builds and stuff 🙂
how do u get duo boons or is it rng?
Once you get the pre-requisites, its similar to Level 2/3 boons
Also some of them can be complete duds haha
I came across a superb Reddit guide and discussion which goes through a lot of the mechanics of the game (rather than guides to builds) and they done 52 topics at the current count
Its an interesting way of doing it because with a rogue-like game with RNG elements, a flat guide isn’t the best
That's actually a really useful resource!
I was really surprised by the quality of it
Superbly created
Hades is really interesting because flat out guides may not be the best because of the RNG involved but a guide to the mechanics and what works well with what seems to be the best
I got to Father after 13 hours playtime. I got killed. He felt INVINCIBLE. Does it get better over time ? :D
The ||End Boss|| is spoilers in this channel, I believe
But yes, it does get better as you improve at the game and upgrade your mirror
And your weapons, of course
Yes I’ve gotten through like 25 times and almost never lose now
Yeah I can kill Asterius but second phase gets me with the Spears from underground every time 😭
the blood, diamonds and ambrosia are the new rewards
if you don't use more and more ||heat|| you will only get darkness from defeating them
||the pact|| is considered a spoiler in this channel
since you've unlocked it go to #h1-discussion
ok sorry
Hey, what is the best weapon to rock for beginners? I’m mainly talking about everything before whatever the 8 key weapon is
personally i started with the spear cause you have a bit of range and can poke well, and spamming dash strike is pretty effective once your timing is figured out
what calls are good?
i agree
spamming dash strike on the shield got me verry far
artemis and dionysus do the most damage, while zeus, ||demeter||, and ares are also good
now i finally have artemis’ artifact
so bow might be actually usefu next time i choose to use it
zeus call i think does more potential damage tbh
you need more zeus boons to be great
?
disregard, wrong discord. this is what i get for using two computers at once lol
uh

how do i get stubborn defiance?
check your mirror for an arrow icon to the left of each skill, this will let you access their counter part
stubborn is the counter of death defiance
you can reset your mirror for 1 key too, it refunds the darkness
after you reclaim their bounty with a weapon
so if you got the titan blood from meg with the bow (for example) she will drop darkness instead if you do it again
bounty?
also do i get hermes or dionysus (shop
this decision is actually very hard
where are you
the items that the bosses drops (titan blood, diamond, etc)
u can only get six diamonds?
prophecies, trader, and after you beat a run there is way to gain more
Can Chaos boons be upgraded in rarity by Eurydice's Ambrosia Delight?
yup
Oh really?
i mean they are boons, i dont see why not
but
Chaos boons can't increase in level tho
they become something permananent
wait
So I wasn't sure if they could increase in rarity
defeated the hydra with bow for 1st time
they arent like regular boons
how far ive come
rarity can be with nectar
i havent picked up the other 2 foods i forgot what they do
sorry 
One increases boon level randomly, the other increases the rarity of the next 3 boons you get
chaos boons cannot be heroic, so i assume they cannot be upgraded by ambrosia delight
yeah only nectar should affect future chaos boons
going into ||theseus|| fight with 324 health and death defiance
this might be the run
I DID IT
nice
27 healrh and death defiance used though
temple of styx can be annoying
have fun with the r a t s
i died like instantly
First you fight tweedledee and tweedledumb
Then you gotta fight Ratatouille
do i get a second death defiance or do i get sd
Ratbox time~~ 🎉
if you are dying to normal encounters a lot, sd
if your problem is the bosses go for the 2nd dd
why specifically?
also i normally die to bosses but in the 4rth level its almost always the enemies
well
ive only been once,
so
Seriously though, get a high-damage dash like Athena's or Poseidon's and the ratbox levels get much easier
sd regenerates the next room after being used, so it gives you another chance x room
dd is 1/2/3 x attempt but they regenerate half of your hp instead of the 30%
and can use all in the boss
also yeah, poseidon boons (more specific the ones that enchance wall slams) destroy styx
That way you can focus on whatever else you're building for the rest of the game, and spend the Temple zipping around smashing enemies
oooh
hmm
The enclosed space can be weaponized into a rat smashing machine with Zag as the primary moving part
Yo the first time I made it to the styx I also died instantly
i might get sd
for styx a decent keepsake if the normal encounters are the problem the keepsake broken spearpoint can be a good use
which does?
I would recommend maxing dd instead of getting sd
will give you a little bit of invencibilty after a hit
unfortunately, that run was not on my side for dashes
it was bow and i got artemis like every other room
so you can search the poison cure without having much damage from it
i just spammed special and it became a shotgun lol
you do?
Since you can refill dd from the shop
also sd has a little interaction with athena boons
also ||demeter|| is a spoiler here
how do i find her
||reach the final boss||
Or get a DD boost from Mr. Handsome Depression Nap
Ignore me completely I mean Athena boon has better dd upgrade
what i mean with this, if you lose your sd before picking up an athena boon and she offers 1 of the 2 dd refill, she will give you a dd then your sd will regenerate next room
also when using sd, patroclus and charon wells have items that boost how much hp it regenerates
That is also true, I'm just a fan of dd cause patty
I die alot to bosses
sd can be neat for that one ares boon too lol
but not worth playing at 30% hp
you can get BOTH
Strong drink is pretty clutch too sometimes
?
Is boon that increases health regen with certain parameters
athena specifically gives dd so yeah you can have both
but ofc those dd wont regenerate if you lost them
Just select the words and spoiler mark it
highlight the text on pc and click the eye icon
Otherwise its || and the same after
so for example
| message |
but 2 instead of 1
also why does zagreus ||loop back wround to the underworld|| like why is it the 4rth stage
|| the river styx is the edge of the underworld ||
|| you're technically in the living world the entire 4th world ||
||the dramatic big door opening symbolizes you leaving||
|| the river is essentially the marker of the beginning of the underworld you have to pass it on the way out ||
Spoiler if you haven't cleared styx
ohh
ok i wont press it then
It will all make sense soon
Epic level two heart break florist or heroic curse of pain
The fists
base fists?
Ya
movin to disc, more peeps there
Is there a max level for Olympian's Favor and God's Pride in the mirror?
Thank you
Why does God's pride hate everyone and everything
how do i farm keys
play the game
and like
go to the key doors
or get all the chaos boons
ez 30 keys
that prophecy
you can also trade gems for keys
What qualifies as a new player
If you haven’t completed a full run yet
Most, if not all, of the spoilers here are all after you first win
Like completed the main story or escaped a single time
Escaped a single time
Ok
i think you should audition to write the dialogue for hypnos if they release hades 2
yall im stuck
ok so i can get divine strike rare, athenas aid rare, or brilliant riposte rare
theyre all so good idk which to choosee
what weapon/aspect?
divine strike can be fun, constant reflect
If you have game pass it’s free
i have all weapons, how do i get aspects?
Do a run
Touch the weapon you have equipped
oh yeah
probably shoulda figured that out
tips for defeating styx? i wanna see the final boss
Git gud
Don’t get poisoned
can pause when poisoned to search without risk the cure
find fountain
hold fountain
broken spearpoint helps to mitigate the poison damage too
deflect boons are nice for throwing the poison darts back at the satyrs
Figure out the timing between when Satyrs growl to when they attack
pay attention for the sound cue when satyrs spit
don't stand in front of rats, they bite fast and hard. stay behind them or dash to the side if you're in front
the crystal snake guys hone in you very slowly so you can get to the side and stay behind them, just have to pay attention when they start firing the laser
how do i get that?
to patroclus (elysium ! room)
its really worth not using spiked collar?
collar is in a weird spot
||spearpoint is probably better but
assuming 3 full DD iirc collar out HPs smelly tooth|| so it’s not entirely worthless
I assume if you're still dying, it still has a purpose
Yeah, spiked collar isn't really worth it, especially after maxing out thick skin. I much prefer something like Myrmidon Bracer or broken spearpoint (and obviously lucky tooth)
i dont even have enough keys to get the 10 key mirror upgrade yet
Something I do a lot is have runs dedicated to farming a specific material, where I prioritize that one mat over absolutely anything
A few farming runs certainly can't hurt
Ofc you do have to get kinda lucky to find the material you're looking for, but still
yeah but its not like theres anything that boosts keys
i try to get keys when i can but often its not many a run
If you have spare gems, trade them for keys
i dont
i think i literally have two
i got the chaos gems boost so hopefully i get some more though
oh yeah if you're just farming you could try for poseidon's gem/darkness boosts also
he has one?
he has 2!
one of them will give you immediate rewards and one will make future rewards worth more
(just for that run ofc)
next time i see him ill make sure to give him nectar so i can see him more
what weapon did yall beat the game with
The rail*
the farthest ive gotten is with fists
my only problem with the gun is that it has low damage so everything takes a million years to kill
Put Zeus attack on it, and try to get Poseidon dash
Made it to the final boss today!!! And then immediately died. Oh well. There’s always next run
Do items stack? for example if i get double cyclops jerky
i just got the worst run ever 😭
the asphodel lava screwed me over, then witches circle happened and i didnt have divine dash
how is that fight even doable without deflect anyway
I think it might be a dps test to be honest
How many of them can you kill before they all shoot at once
Empty dashing also important
Some attacks can pop the bullets. Also shield blocking, and moving around to places where there are less bullets
Just try to blow one up as fast as possible for safe spot to empty dash then focus the middle one imo
i nearly got through the styx with a lifesteal sword but poison struck again
the cure was too far away
Just know you can out heal the poison next time
i know but its a little hard when its so fast
my next goal is 100% to get to the final boss. like not even necessarily beating him
or her
Why cant i gift patroclus?
is there a locked heart by any chance?
Yeah, in the codex, do the hearts have a lock?
How do I speak to Aries chaos etc to get their keep sakes?
WHen their boons show up, if you have nectar you should see an option to press a key and give them one
Ah okkk 👍
Thankyou so much
I haven’t unlocked any and realised that’s why I had gaps
For the first couple of times, you can't gift him one I believe
does the kiss of styx premium work if i have sd
Sd?
stubborn defiancd
i wont risk it
What's the difference between the two?
it regens every room
thats why im using it
for styx
