h1-for-new-players

[hazy gyro]

yea sorry lmao

[misty ridge]

anyways, just do favors

if you want to know specifically what the favors are they're on the wiki

[hazy gyro]

will do

thanks : )

[mighty pelican]

any tips for beating the Minotaur?

[slow ferry]

Most of the advice is gonna boil down to "learn the attacks"

[misty ridge]

learn to time dashes

[shadow tulip]

||how do i avoid the boiling blood from dad?||

[misty ridge]

dodge?

[shadow tulip]

So its not triggered by anything?

[slow ferry]

||he shoots skulls from his spear||

[misty ridge]

you get hit by the bloodstones

[shadow tulip]

Oh i see

What does the vases thing do?

[misty ridge]

trap

holds you in place & hurts

[shadow tulip]

But doesnt affect the boss if i destroy it?

[misty ridge]

no

boss will often destroy them too

[shadow tulip]

Ah i see

I just hide behind the pillar thing when it shows

[misty ridge]

destroying will give more room for fight

[shadow tulip]

||i think i already gave everyone i know a nectar, are there hidden ones that i can give to get keepsakes?||

[misty ridge]

unlockables

you'll get them eventually

if you haven't already

[maiden ruin]

If you give 5 nectar to sisyphus then you will unlock the ability to give bouldy nectar, he doesn't give you a keepsake but he gives you a boon

[shadow tulip]

Oh i didnt know this, thanks!

[plain talon]

Bouldy's boons aren't usually that good though, are they?

[misty ridge]

excuse you

+9% obols is wonderful!

[maiden ruin]

If you have a bouldy boon then it is impossible to lose

[slow ferry]

I wouldn't have won without that +2% damage resistance

[misty ridge]

not to mention the ambiguous bonus

[odd shoal]

The 1% tho

Really clutch

Ambiguity bonus is broken though

Needs a nerf tbh

[misty ridge]

it's too good for this game

it's too good for any game

[leaden whale]

Hello what is the best twin fist aspect ?

[plain talon]

Aspect of Zagreus, I think. If you have the Lampent Plume (Hermes keepsake), and you're fast enough at clearing out Tartarus rooms, you can usually get around 30% or so dodge chance, add on a Hermes boon that increases that further it'll be anywhere from 40-55% I think, depending on boon rarity.

[maiden ruin]

the best aspect for damage is aspect of dem

[chilly briar]

FINALLY

LESGOOO

[maiden ruin]

epic

[placid ridge]

who is this dem

i am a new player i wouldnt know

[chilly briar]

spoiler

||its another godess you get after reaching hades once||

[placid ridge]

what is a godess

[chilly briar]

._.

olympian

the boon people

[placid ridge]

i know what an olympian is!

[burnt cedar]

yeah

Eurydice can do that in asphodel

[placid ridge]

pom levels have a logarithmic effect or whatever its called

[maiden ruin]

the boon gets stronger

[placid ridge]

rarities are exponential i think

[burnt cedar]

yea

[placid ridge]

rarity beeg pom smol

[maiden ruin]

this explains it

#h1-builds-and-combat message

[mild kelp]

The increase from poms diminishes over time. Level 1 to level 2 is a much bigger boost than, say, level 5 to level 6. So, say a boon increases damage by 10% when you upgrade to level 2. When you upgrade to level 3, it might only be an additional 8% increase. Level 4 might only be an additional 7% increase. On the other hand, rarity increases significantly more each time.

Tl;dr pom past a certain point isn't worth it, but rarity always is.

Forgive me for the completely made up numbers. I have 3 brain cells and none of them know math

[burnt cedar]

except on casts because casts scale to like level 10

[burnt cedar]

why was there a video about c in the chat

[maiden ruin]

[maiden ruin]

you get 20% damage reduction

[misty ridge]

gives you 20% dmg reduction

[maiden ruin]

+2% every death

caps at 80%

[misty ridge]

^

[maiden ruin]

im too fast

[misty ridge]

I was writing it, but my steam is opening

so I kept getting kicked out of the text area thingy

[maiden ruin]

nah its ok

nobody has beaten me in a typing race

[misty ridge]

suuuuure

[maiden ruin]

yeah

[misty ridge]

well, the enemies stay the same so really it just makes you more durable

it's a toggle so you can turn it off whenever

[leaden whale]

Hi, do you know what is the best way to beat the meg? I have been playing for two days and I can't beat it, each time she have half hp and suddenly I get hit the whole health bar and die

[maiden ruin]

you should learn her attack patterns and practice dodging with your dash

[ivory ocean]

don't worry about killing the enemies around the room imo, just avoid them

[leaden whale]

Okey... thanks but i dieing in 10 secs its no time to teach dashing as well

[ivory ocean]

also bow can be good for meg in the beginning bc you can hit her while avoiding her attacks

[leaden whale]

I trying to teach dashes in normal rooms but i doing it well only on meg i cant do anything

[maiden ruin]

when she is invulnerable you can kill the enemies

[leaden whale]

yes but i kill 2 enemies and shes comeback

[leaden whale]

hmm okey i will try it

[ivory ocean]

when she shoots her pink bullet things, get a far away as you can. they're slower and spread farther apart

[leaden whale]

i always tried with shield or sword but maybe bow will be better?

i go to test it

[ivory ocean]

bow is how i beat meg the first time anyway

[leaden whale]

ye i doing it with dash shield its so eazy with it

but with bow it can be harder

[ivory ocean]

that's true

[leaden whale]

do u have any protips to play with bow?

im sucks in ranged heroes in everygame ...

[maiden ruin]

you should use dash strikes

so dash and then attack

[leaden whale]

hmm okey

[maiden ruin]

dash strikes charge faster than normal attacks

but they deal less damage

[ivory ocean]

for me now is throw as many attacks or as possible and then dash as much as possible when enemies get close

[leaden whale]

i do this combo in rooms is it good?
attack-dash-q-attack-dash-q-dash-attack

[maiden ruin]

the special is not that good

[leaden whale]

ye ik...

it dont do dmg

imo best Q got sword but its aoe

then on bow i could just spam attack and dash ye?

[maiden ruin]

ye

[leaden whale]

oke i try it now

[maiden ruin]

alright

good luck

[leaden whale]

WOW I GOT ITEM TO 400% dmg to far heroes

ON BOW

its too op

[ivory ocean]

oh nice

[leaden whale]

ye this bow is op i didnt know about it xD

i dont even lose any heart

But i cant speedruning

so its balanced

[leaden whale]

GUYZ I DID IT

I UNLOCKED ITEM WCHICH GIVE ME NO CLD ON AUTO

AND I KILLED HER

OMG

i love ur protips guyz

[maiden ruin]

nice

[leaden whale]

Yesss

:D

i cant did it before with 300hp

now i do it with 50hp and bow XD

its kinda funny

[ivory ocean]

congrats!

[leaden whale]

now i did it with shield tooo :DDDDD

[maiden ruin]

nice

[leaden whale]

yes

but next floor is just not to do

this fire is disgusting

[misty ridge]

just don't step in it

[leaden whale]

ye but its hard if u play shield

[misty ridge]

no it's not

you can throw it like a pinball

[leaden whale]

ye i need teach how to dont step in it

i often using this dash from shield so its hard on start but if i teach it rest will be easy

[errant bramble]

Basic Bow special can be pretty useful if you put ares/Zeus on it. Even Poseidon+rupture does good work

For the most part it’s not great

[shadow tulip]

What's the best aid in your opinion?

[misty ridge]

aphro

artemis

athena

poseidon

zeus & dio & ||dem|| & ||dad||?

ares is ok, but I'd rather have his cast or dash

unless I get his rift bonus boons & legendary - then I love his call

[shadow tulip]

||dad??||

[misty ridge]

||future stuff||

I'll take any call really

it's nice to have that extra bit of dmg or defense or combo

[shadow tulip]

poseidon's aid is like you bash yourself to the enemy right

[safe niche]

yes

[misty ridge]

very nice if you aim it right

and good for short bursts

[leaden whale]

I always getting no cld on auto attack but no special and poison or smtg other to do more dmg per auto

And athene buff on dash

This way im win with hydra and now climbing on 3rd floor

[mellow plover]

WASD moment

😔

[misty ridge]

what?

[misty ridge]

[shadow tulip]

Hmm?

What does it do again

[misty ridge]

big arrow w crit chance

eris

[misty ridge]

best dmg dealer, fast & commonly used by speedrunners

[maiden ruin]

hestia is a little harder to use

[misty ridge]

idk, I haven't yet

[maiden ruin]

and its not great at a low level

[burnt cedar]

eris

[maiden ruin]

for eris the damage buff is global

so all damage coming from zag is buffed

including lightning, hangover, doom, calls

[burnt cedar]

except companions I think

[maiden ruin]

yeah

[misty ridge]

that dmg doesn't come from zag anyways

[burnt cedar]

fair

[maiden ruin]

thats a spoiler

||you can add heat to your runs, it just makes your run harder||

||also, you have to use it to get more bounties||

[radiant arch]

Also ||by doing it harder you can win the Boss loots again||

[pulsar sigil]

Am i 🥔 Just lost with equivelent of 1375 health

[misty ridge]

well, high hp doesn't = winning

[pulsar sigil]

ya but having more than 1 helps

[odd shoal]

No, I am 🥔

[radiant arch]

So uh, is it normal that every time i get nectar my Standard attack blessing goes up a level?

[maiden ruin]

yeah

thats a work order

you must have bought it without realizing

[radiant arch]

Ooh, i never knew i bought it lol

Yeah makes sense. Thanks!

[maiden ruin]

np

[odd shoal]

theres one for all blue laurels

[errant bramble]

It’s random, not always attack, but yes

[maiden ruin]

a random boon is upgraded when you pick up nectar

[burnt dirge]

YES i made it back to ||styx||! Finally

[maiden ruin]

nice

[odd shoal]

nice

[burnt dirge]

nice

any tips before i go on?

[maiden ruin]

play safe, look for cures when you are poisoned, look out for the rats that spawn because they damage you when they come out of the ground, when you find the sack dont go into extra tunnels

[odd shoal]

keep in mind where curing pools are

[burnt dirge]

ok thank you

[burnt cedar]

the curing pools look like weird medusa things

youll know them when you see them

[burnt dirge]

should i go into a boss fight?

[maiden ruin]

yeah

they give better rewards

[burnt cedar]

yes, the minibosses are easier than the end of normal rooms

also better rewards

[odd shoal]

yeah

[burnt dirge]

that was quick

oh wait that wasn't the boss

[maiden ruin]

bruh

[burnt cedar]

bruh

[odd shoal]

bruh

[burnt dirge]

ok now im at the boss

[misty ridge]

[odd shoal]

gl

[burnt cedar]

gl

[burnt dirge]

i died

not without taking 2/3 of his helth tho

[misty ridge]

[burnt dirge]

thank you for the tips

i was using the shield this time

[obtuse wraith]

Don't know where to ask this but why i have hammer in first chamber for like 6 runs straight?

[misty ridge]

rng

that's why

[obtuse wraith]

oh thought might be a bug bcs whenever i pick ||rama|| i always get hammer 1st

[misty ridge]

spoiler

that name is forbidden

[obtuse wraith]

oh sorry

[misty ridge]

check pins if you don't know how to spoiler tag

and then please spoiler tag it

ty

it should be just rng

I've had zeus 4 times in a row on my baby file

and I had hammer 4-5 times in a row on my main file some time ago

[obtuse wraith]

ok but that should modified by keepsakes while it seems mine doesnt work

[misty ridge]

no

[slow ferry]

Keepsakes dont modify chance of hammer in first room

[misty ridge]

god keepsake just ensures the first god you encounter is that one

[obtuse wraith]

thank you

[misty ridge]

unless you have a chance of hermes

hermes can go first

[obtuse wraith]

oh wow that explains a lot

thanks

[misty ridge]

it has a counter? charge?

so it's fine if you get 2 options & you choose another god too - you're still guaranteed an appearance from your keepsake god unless it's near the end of the biome (since you might run out of rooms before boss)

[obtuse wraith]

makes sense

[mellow plover]

keyboard

[narrow rapids]

h

hades nuts gottem

[glass harbor]

Ok??

[radiant arch]

ok so i tried like

to use the summon against ||Hades||

but it didnt come out, why

[maiden ruin]

hide the name of the final boss

it didnt work because you need permission to use it

megs' companion doesnt work because she works for him

[radiant arch]

O h

So i can't use it against him, can i against Theseus?

[maiden ruin]

yeah

you can use it against everybody but final boss

[burnt cedar]

||skelly and sisyphus' companions can be used against hades tho bc they dont work for him||

[maiden ruin]

until you get permission

[maiden ruin]

^^^

[radiant arch]

oh

i got meg first due to me trying to get her

at least i won the run ig

[burnt dirge]

im back at ||hades|| wish me luck

[maiden ruin]

good luck

[burnt dirge]

thank you

[burnt cedar]

gl

[burnt dirge]

i died

[odd shoal]

Rip

[maiden ruin]

f

[burnt dirge]

i finished his ||first phase|| tho

[maiden ruin]

nice

wait, you should hide ||first phase||

[burnt dirge]

ok i did that

[mighty pelican]

any tips for beating theseus and the minotaur? I can beat the minotaur, then Theseus kills me.

[maiden ruin]

kill the bull first, learn attack patterns, use the pillars to avoid taking damage, make sure bull is dead before you get theseus to his second phase, when you see a pink crossair on you that means that theseus is gonna throw his spear at you, after he throws his spear he will turn around which means you can attack him, when he is in his second phase you should spend more time dodging the things he summons

[mighty pelican]

ok thanks

[plain talon]

Hate Theseus enough that you can't possibly lose to him out of spite

Worked for me eventually

[odd shoal]

Thats the strat

[radiant arch]

it says no spoilers end boss onward

Theseus comes before

[maiden ruin]

Yeah

The heroes are not spoilers

[slender minnow]

theres also an audio cue when theseus starts aiming the spear at you, that probably saved me more times than the visual cue

[radiant arch]

First time beating Theseus with the bow AND without losing Mortal Defies

[misty ridge]

DD?

cuz SD could also fit that mortal defies description
but since it's multiple, DD seems more likely

[radiant arch]

oh- so thats how its said

i mean, the revives to make it easy, i dont use the other side of the mirror

[misty ridge]

there's some good things on the other side too

[radiant arch]

yeah that's what i've heard but i have none of them leveled up

im finishing some other achievements then ill start leveling up the other side

[modern verge]

Same

[misty ridge]

[radiant arch]

And now i beated up ||Hades|| with the Bow, lets GOOOOOO

[misty ridge]

[radiant arch]

2 weapons left

[frozen mist]

[radiant arch]

Damn almost made it with the Rail

I almost did it but then i got hit and died

[verbal ivy]

poseidon's call is great

maybe the best one, who knows?

[compact tiger]

in absolute disbelief currently

[misty ridge]

depends on who you ask really

[slow ferry]

i always miss with poseidon call... it's too fiddly!

[frozen mist]

invincibility calls are noice

[slim hamlet]

My favorite calls are dio / ||dem||

[radiant arch]

Artemis and Aphrodite are good too

[slim hamlet]

I just abuse the hell out of privileged status

So having a status effect call is nice

[compact tiger]

Privileged Status is honestly so darn good

[slim hamlet]

it’s nutty with fists imo

Most of my closest runs have been status focused fists runs

If only I could get that extra dash boon from hermes I wouldn’t get taxed by the big speeeen attack so much

[radiant arch]

Finished the game with the spear. Man this thing is strong i even made a New record

[pale hollow]

skelly is gone for some reason, i didn't know he took breaks

[misty ridge]

play max zag fist + max plume + ruthless - you'll have so much dodge you won't need more then 1 dash

[misty ridge]

change weapons

[pale hollow]

oh that worked

[slim hamlet]

oh hey ry

[pale hollow]

Allie 👋

[slim hamlet]

I was gonna do something like this

I’ve never used plume though

It is difficult to keep up or is it not that bad

[pale hollow]

I was playing fairly normally and got 16 "quick" clears

[misty ridge]

it's easy

[slim hamlet]

Ight

[misty ridge]

you'll have a uhm.. timer-countdown-thingy right under the keepsake letting you know how much time you get to kill everything

[slim hamlet]

Also what do you mean by ruthless?

[misty ridge]

you likely won't get every room, but that's ok

[slim hamlet]

is that a boon?

[misty ridge]

ruthless reflex - green side mirror

dash just before getting hit & get dodge chance or smth - can't fully remember the description

you only get 1 dash since it's that or greater

when you play with max zag fist & plume you want all the dodge chances

[pale hollow]

yeah 50% more dodge and damage for 2 seconds

[misty ridge]

ty

you'll get so many near-miss & dodged it's hilarious

[slim hamlet]

Ah I see

I’ll def run that

[pale hollow]

seems good, but man im a sucker for my extra dodge

[compact tiger]

It's a very entertaining and broken run in my opinion.

[misty ridge]

I only get hit maybe 50% of the time I'm in range of heroes atk

and that's if I'm in range

it's very easy to just dodge via dashing too, not via dodge mechanic

I often get to styx/end boss with all dd

last time I didn't even lose a dd

[pale hollow]

poseidon and infernal soul is the best way to do a cast build I'm assuming

[misty ridge]

and that was on baby file that doesn't even have full mirror unlocked

[misty ridge]

well.. stygian can be good too, but you need a lot of extra stones & quick uhm.. reload? regrow? regain? time

[pale hollow]

The Hermes one?

[misty ridge]

mhm

you'll want to have many stones to spam & then stygian can be fun to just endlessly get them in

[pale hollow]

Yeah, stygians good but I assume aspect of poseidon is way more spammable

[misty ridge]

but I guess infernal is more common

either way you'll want exit wounds

[pale hollow]

yeah

Does exit wounds get buffed by that ||Demeter|| boon which boosts damage when out of casts

[slim hamlet]

exit wounds sounds nutty with aspect of poseidon

[pale hollow]

It was

that's what got me my first win

[slim hamlet]

who has that boon

[pale hollow]

Artemis

[slim hamlet]

ofc

lmao

[minor dragon]

Im 99% sure its artimis

[radiant arch]

So, i need 1 ambrosia ||for each Olympian god to get the epilogue? i already got all the hearts except the ones that were locked at the end so i was thinking about it||

[misty ridge]

not all

you need ||6||

[radiant arch]

OH

LETS GO i got enough

thank you pretty much

[misty ridge]

there's dialogue you'll get

||an invite, and 6 gods has to get that invite||

[stable saffron]

Isn't it ||every god for the invite, Bond or no Bond?||

[misty ridge]

but you need 6

to be at ||certain hearts||

[stable saffron]

you need to ||deliver all 9 invite pieces,|| is what I meant

[misty ridge]

||I got everyone without knowing there was a requirement||

I just had ||that much of a bond with them already||

[stable saffron]

But ||Demeter's Favor|| is actually locked behind ||the epilogue|| right? So you can't have had all of them

[misty ridge]

ah, but ||she's the one you don't need to do the favor for for it to count ||

I had ||dem at max hearts before favor & that was enough for her||

[compact tiger]

||Demeter||, Posieden(sp) and Aphrodite I believe are done after the ||party|| or at least are for me

[misty ridge]

spoiler

first name is a spoiler

[misty ridge]

2nd is a prophecy, 3rd just needs you to have bonds w 2/3 love interests

if I remember right

[stable saffron]

A lot of people forget that ||The Goddess of Seasons|| only shows up after you see the surface huh?

[misty ridge]

mhmm

it's weird too, cuz technically ||you can mention her, but only as an aspect||

context is key

[pale hollow]

how good is the aspect of ||guan yu||, the downsides are huge without leveling it up

[misty ridge]

the answer will change depending on how ||high heat|| the people you ask have done

for me it's not that good, but for some others in here it's great & the only ||spear aspect|| they'll use almost

and for most new players it's not fun, especially since it almost needs ||high lvl|| to be worth it

and that's ||a lot of blood||

[pale hollow]

i'll give it a go and see how it feels, then grind some more blood if i like it but die too much

[misty ridge]

sounds like a plan

[stable saffron]

General consensus about ||Guan Yu|| is that ||Serpent Slash|| is kind of clunky to use properly

That's what the ||Spin Attack|| is called right?

[pale hollow]

yeah

[half lantern]

Just wondering what the correct way of unlocking the 4th aspects of weapons. On my first file it just happened with Achilles, but I've searched it up and I've seen so many different ways and don't know which one is the correct method.

[pulsar frigate]

check the pins in #h1-story-discussion

[half lantern]

Ok cool thanks.

[mossy ermine]

when im looking for a duo boon and I meet both requirements can I go to any of the 2 gods or is it specific to 1 god

[stable saffron]

both can offer it

[pale hollow]

Why is the ||Charon|| boss fight so damn hard, are we really not meant to borrow money that much

Like damn he hits harder than ||Hades||

[fallow hedge]

Well i think its cause it doesnt want you to take money

Just let the rich get richer

[pale hollow]

I just wanted a bit of gold

[fallow hedge]

It gets easier the more and more you die to him

His attacks are slow but they hit really hard

[odd shoal]

Only fight him on Elisium

Easiest then

[fallow hedge]

No

They are cool whatever u pick

But they do try to kill you in that room

Nah u cant give nectar or get a duo boons in a god trial

[regal shore]

This game is fun

Thanks devs

I would tag you but i don’t want to be annoying lol

[chilly briar]

faxx

[regal shore]

I really like the atmosphere, the art style is so dope. The gameplay cycle is really engaging too, I normally fall off rougelikes because I lose attention in the early cycles but it’s all fun here

[chilly briar]

true

music tho

😩

[regal shore]

Yeahhh I don’t notice music very often in games

But here? Hell ya mayne

[radiant arch]

Agree. I bought it like. 4 days ago and I already have 50 hrs

[slim hamlet]

Im not one for rock music but this game has a banger soundtrack

[misty stirrup]

Hi guys i would like to know the best legendary weapons i should absolutely unlock first

[misty ridge]

zag fist

[misty stirrup]

Sorry i mean the legendary aspects

[maiden ruin]

spoiler

||you have to get guan yu to get the other hidden aspects||

[misty ridge]

hide the name

and all aspects can be legendary..
just that some are hidden

[misty stirrup]

Sorry

[misty ridge]

if you don't know how to spoiler tag, check pins

[misty stirrup]

Ok ty

Btw what of the hidden ones i should unlock?

[misty ridge]

read the tagged msg above

[maiden ruin]

you have to unlock ||guan yu|| first

[misty ridge]

then it's up to you - they all have pros & cons

[misty stirrup]

I already did

[misty ridge]

you can find all unlock conditions in the pins in #h1-story-discussion

individually spoiler tagged

[maiden ruin]

then its up to you

[misty stirrup]

I unlocked the shield and the bow

I mean what to buy

[maiden ruin]

hidden rail is good

[misty ridge]

so is hidden sword

[misty stirrup]

Ok thanks

[radiant arch]

So, what would be a good build to use with Eris Rail? Im in pain and its the last weapon i need to beat the game with

[maiden ruin]

zeus attack, artemis special, poseidon dash, cluster rockets

[misty ridge]

Eris fun

[radiant arch]

Ill try that

Cluster rockers is the dedalus that turns Special into rockets. Right?

[maiden ruin]

its made of two separate hammers

cluster bomb

and rocket bomb

it makes you shoot out five rockets

[radiant arch]

OH

I see

Thanks!

[maiden ruin]

np

[mighty pelican]

i have 28 escape attempts and i just beat Theseus. Is that good?

[maiden ruin]

ye its good

everybody plays at a different speed

[mighty pelican]

ok thanks

[pale hollow]

Is it just me or does rail genuinely suck against Theseus

[maiden ruin]

it doesnt suck against theseus

its really good

[pale hollow]

then just me

[maiden ruin]

ye

rail is the hardest weapon to play imo

[pale hollow]

I had to bait his spear then shoot because it was impossible to hurt him otherwise

[wary wing]

the basic attacks are harder too land while the special always hits

[radiant arch]

I despise the Rail

[pale hollow]

I had the 3 specials in a row and none of them would hit

[radiant arch]

With no good Hammer boons in it its just like bruhhhh

[slow ferry]

aoe attacks hit shield enemies pretty consistently

[pale hollow]

and I couldn't even curve the attack around with the seeking upgrade

[radiant arch]

You need to put the center of them behind the Shield iirc

[slow ferry]

it's based off of whether the enemy shield is facing towards or away from the center of the explosion yeah

[pale hollow]

I'll keep that in mind for next time I guess

[slow ferry]

rail is a hard weapon to use but i feel like the easiest way to use it is to invest into the special

[pale hollow]

My best rail was a heavily Zeus stacked ricochet upgrade one

but I lost the run to Theseus, since I just can't use rail against him

[radiant arch]

My Best Rail was Cluster Rockets with ||Demeter boon||, but even then I lost all my DD at Theseus then died at ||Hades||

[misty ridge]

dash + special

[odd shoal]

I used to really like the rail but know its my seccond fav

[radiant arch]

Got the rocket

Now I need the x5 and im done with the build

[slow ferry]

rocket is strong without x5, to be honest

[radiant arch]

Yeah

But its strong with x5 too ngl

[maiden ruin]

ye

[radiant arch]

OH YEAH Boi

Theseus done

[maiden ruin]

nice

[radiant arch]

Pain time

||Hades||, Two death defies and a Rail

What could go wrong

Man that was close.

[ivory ocean]

congrats!

[maiden ruin]

nice

[compact tiger]

First clear?

Oh! Nice man!

[misty ridge]

[radiant arch]

Are you going for the ||epilogue||?

Yeah that. Good luck then

Im here Day 3 working on it and im just ||2/6||

Actually, ||8||

[regal oak]

Whats the best boon with relative boost to offence and defence?

[misty ridge]

you speak a language I don't understand

[maiden ruin]

for offense it depends on the weapon you are using

idk about defense

i guess divine dash

[regal oak]

The Bow

From which God

[plain talon]

Athena on special

[maiden ruin]

artemis or aphrodite

[regal oak]

I'm listening

[maiden ruin]

for weapons with a high base damage you want boons that have a % damage increase

and artemis and aphro are the best for that

[plain talon]

Athena has the best defensive boons, and they tend to reflect attacks

[maiden ruin]

nah dont do that

[plain talon]

Divine Dash (Athena dash) is super good because of it

[misty ridge]

that's a waste of the special

[plain talon]

Since you dash so much

I consider it good to help with overwhelming projectiles, like the witch rooms

[regal oak]

Ok. Seeing lots of good advice, I'm taking notes, going for another run in a minute

[misty ridge]

I punch my way through witch rooms

[maiden ruin]

just use the dash for that

[plain talon]

As you get better the Athena special for bow won't be as useful

[regal oak]

Thanks for the tips ❤️

[maiden ruin]

np

[regal oak]

Ok

[plain talon]

That works until there are so many projectiles you just end up dashing into some

[misty ridge]

Iframes

it's a thing

[plain talon]

You speak as though I've never experienced this myself

[misty ridge]

I don't know how they work, but they do

[plain talon]

Which I have

[misty ridge]

but just punch your way through them!

[plain talon]

I won't claim to know more than you, but I will claim to have some experience

Also they're usually only dangerous when it's just them and they have armor, in which cause punching through them with the bow is unlikely to happen

Unless you have extra damage to armor

[misty ridge]

no I use fists, when I say punch I mean punch

with bow idk.. spam special

[plain talon]

Well that ain't what they were asking about

[misty ridge]

dash around & spam special

yes, but I was replying to you

not them

and I also said

that I as in myself punch my way through witch rooms

[slim hamlet]

Just beat the final boss!
Aspect of Chiron for the win

[wanton crest]

Congrats!!

[ivory ocean]

congrats!

[maiden ruin]

Nice

[frozen mist]

pog

[odd shoal]

nice

[amber laurel]

heyo! so quick question regarding buffs in general. I've been looking at stuff like the backstab and cast bonuses, along with any weapon specific buff i might find (like my new recent favorite, aspect of achilles spear), and i've noticed the buffs with this particular aspect don't stack with each other. So my question is, is there any buff in this game that stacks at all? Or are all of them based off of base damage alone?

[odd shoal]

Diferent buffs stack with each other

I believe

[amber laurel]

wdym different buffs?

[odd shoal]

Like shackle and Cyclops jerky

two diferent things

buff the same thign

[amber laurel]

you mean like, backstab, cast and raging rush from achilles spear are different buffs?

[odd shoal]

yes

[amber laurel]

they do not

so backstab and cast are 50% each, right?

and at lv3, achilles spear is 75%

if they stacked, it would multiply, correct?

but they don't multiply, they actually just add to each other

meaning instead of having an almost 4x damage boost from all the buffs, i have 2.75x

[odd shoal]

idk if they mult or add

[amber laurel]

they add

that was what i meant, wether they multiplied or added

my bad

[night root]

Hey, does anyone know anything about Thanatos’s spawning? I used to see him all the time but now I never do. Is there anything specific you have to do to get him to show up to help you out or does he just show up whenever he feels like it?

Sorry if you already talked about this at some point

[chilly briar]

rng

[halcyon lynx]

Hey, how do you get more Titan blood?

I spent all of the initial six I got on upgrading the sword. (Whoops)

[pale hollow]

you can get more after beating the game once, or by grinding and trading for it

[night root]

I kinda figured but the confirmation is nice. Funnily enough he showed up two seconds later so maybe the key is to talk about him lmao. Thank you

[halcyon lynx]

You can trade for it with the merchant in the lounge?

[pale hollow]

yeah, I think it's an ambrosia for it

[errant bramble]

The price varies

Oh yea ambrosia is always there

[halcyon lynx]

I saw Charon offer it in the final stage too.

[errant bramble]

Sometimes you can get it for 15 keys etc

[pulsar frigate]

most offensive numbers in the game are additive

can't think of many off the top of my head that aren't

[errant bramble]

The most offensive number in the game is 12.

[halcyon lynx]

Lol, I just stack hangover and buff it a bunch on my main attack.

[slow ferry]

that works well for fast attacking weapons

but if you have a weapon that hits hard, you would rather use a boon that increases the damage of your attacks

[hexed lance]

Les go

Did my first clear

And on the next time, I almost got my second clear. But ||Hades|| killed me before I could get my last hit in.

[fallow hedge]

U ever tried not getting hit?

[odd shoal]

Thats some good wisdom

[radiant arch]

shouldn't you spoiler tag that name?

[hexed lance]

Sry

[radiant arch]

dw its fine

im p sure i made the same mistake the first time lol

[wispy scarab]

HELLOOOOOOOOO MY NEW FRIENDS

i am amy! i just got the game and have fallen deeply in love with everything

and have come to realize ||Dusa|| must be protected at all costs that is all thank you good day and no i will not be taking questions

[radiant arch]

Agree'd

[slim hamlet]

[wispy scarab]

[fallow hedge]

[tawny nacelle]

[wispy scarab]

dusa protection squad

[compact tiger]

[tawny nacelle]

amen

[wispy scarab]

how does God Mode work, really?

[tawny nacelle]

it gives you damage reduction

it starts at 20%, then every time you die, it adds 2%, capping at 80%

[odd shoal]

[wispy scarab]

oh dope

[wispy scarab]

are the gods you get at the start of a run randoml?

[grave storm]

mostly yeah

[wispy scarab]

oo

[compact tiger]

Unless you're using a ||Keepsake|| to alter the appearance of what God you see, It is random for the most part. Some story related Gods will appear at times depending on conversations or actions performed prior to that run starting.

[wispy scarab]

oh neat

[verbal ivy]

why is ||keepsake|| censored

[misty ridge]

sometimes additional spoiler tags are used depending on who you chat with

that's how we also end up w spoiler tags in the regular hades discussion sometimes

[wispy scarab]

meg strats with bow?

[slow ferry]

bow is the weapon where you stand still, so it's harder at first but you'll learn a gamesense for when to stand still and when not to stand still

for meg: don't stand still when she's in her lunge pose facing you, don't stand still when you're next to her, and don't stand still when she's doing either of her ranged attacks

when you can't stand still you can wildly fire your special for chip damage

play deliberately

[open hedge]

hi, I'm looking for the achievements of Hades on the Epic Games Store, can you help me ?

[sand kiln]

for when you have to pick between one god are you locked out of the other one forever?

[misty ridge]

Not forever, but potentially during that run

You can have 4 gods in your god pool normally - not counting Hermes & ||chaos||
After that you have to summon with keepsakes

This resets each run

[sand kiln]

ah ok

[spiral helm]

ive just bought the game and am downloading it

any tips

[royal halo]

Get used to dying cause you will die a lot

[spiral helm]

o h

how many endings are there

i wanna try to complete it

[royal halo]

There is just one ending

[spiral helm]

i thought they added a true ending

[royal halo]

Oh I didn't know

[spiral helm]

apparently u beat hades 9 times to get it

[royal halo]

Oh okay

Also to escape the house of Hades go to the training room and go to the right

[spiral helm]

ok

[hazy gyro]

I think it was a "normal" ending and then an epilogue, which is also known as the true ending

[pale hollow]

how many aspects are there for each weapon, want to know if its worth upgrading my Zagreus sword again for ||Skelly's quest(?)||

[spiral helm]

o o h

[pale hollow]

not aspects, levels for the aspects

[hazy gyro]

I think 5 per aspect? I can't confirm though, this is just from the top of my head

Maybe see if it says on the Hades wiki

[pale hollow]

where do you reckon it'll be, cos i don't remember seeing anything on the individual weapons pages

[hazy gyro]

Five levels indeed

I just googled it lol

https://www.rpgsite.net/feature/10254-hades-infernal-arms-weapon-aspects-guide-every-weapon-aspect-and-upgrade-unlock

[pale hollow]

alright thanks, guess i'll save my titan blood for now

[spiral helm]

p sure from what ive heard im gonna die a lot

so uh

if u just wish me everlasting luck

thank you

[mighty pelican]

what boons should I get with the twin fists

[slow ferry]

Classically, Zeus atk

[maiden ruin]

ares attack, athena special, athena dash, merciful end

[mighty pelican]

i have the choice between posiden and artimis, who should I go for?

[maiden ruin]

what is your build like rn

[mighty pelican]

i just started the run, I have no boons on me

[maiden ruin]

aspect?

[mighty pelican]

no aspects on the fists

[maiden ruin]

oh

what hammer do you have

[mighty pelican]

Daedalus Hammer

[maiden ruin]

what hammer upgrade

[mighty pelican]

the one that makes me sturdy when I use my attack and special

[maiden ruin]

oh

take artemis and get her special

[mighty pelican]

ok thanks

[chilly briar]

ares dash kinda bussin with fists

just stun lock

[maiden ruin]

ares dash?

[chilly briar]

yes

the rift dash

[maiden ruin]

bruh

[chilly briar]

if u dash enough while attacking constantly u can stun lock enemies

even the hydra

[maiden ruin]

?

[chilly briar]

have u not tried this

[maiden ruin]

you cant stun lock bosses

[chilly briar]

the small ones

i meant

[maiden ruin]

bruh

[chilly briar]

its fun

[maiden ruin]

sure

it works

[mighty pelican]

@maiden ruin the only boons athena has are attack, call and resist damage from traps

[maiden ruin]

ok

uh

take call

[mighty pelican]

ok thanks

[chilly briar]

pp man is the official advisor here

[vivid patio]

for future reference we do have a pin for unlocking aspects in #h1-story-discussion 0: its the third one down

[hazy gyro]

Oh nice, thanks for mentioning!

[wispy scarab]

if you’re in a run, can i like, pause, save, exit, and come back to where i was?

[maiden ruin]

You can do that if you don't take damage in that room

[wispy scarab]

oh cool

[hazy gyro]

i dont often use ||hades' keepsake|| but its quite entertaining ||using his greater call against himself lol||

[pale hollow]

why does Athena's Last Stand boon say it replenishes 1 use of stubborn defiance as well as making it better

[misty ridge]

cuz it'll replenish the sd, but then turn it into a dd when you exit the room & get your sd back

if you've used an sd ofc

if you haven't then don't take it

[pale hollow]

so i get a death defiance if i use my SD before taking the boon?

[maiden ruin]

Yes

[misty ridge]

yup

[pale hollow]

guess i'm gonna start triggering it before taking athena boons if im close enough 30% then

because that sounds pretty nice

[pale hollow]

Any tips for one of the last boss' attacks? ||I fairly regularly have the skulls explode and shoot their wave while Hades is doing the laser attack, are there any tips for avoiding that or at least minimising the damage, instead of just standing there and taking it?||

[misty ridge]

||you can break the skulls before they explode into a wave and if you take aphrodite call then the charm will cancel out the lasers then you have hiding behind the pillars (from the lasers) while keeping an eye out for the waves so you can dodge those I guess ||

[pale hollow]

Oh, I figured aphros call didn't work on bosses for some reason

[misty ridge]

if they can't be turned on an enemy they get stunned

you can use it on theseus/asterius & have them attack each other for like a second

[slow ferry]

||the skull waves can be dodged depending on their angle from the pillar||

Bosses have reduced charm time but it does work

[misty ridge]

aphro legendary works the same way since it's the charm that does it

you're just guaranteed it with the call

[pale hollow]

||I struggle to dodge them from behind the pillar without getting hit by the laser, might be cos I use WASD||

[slow ferry]

||I use keyboard too... sometimes it's just a perfect storm, but sometimes you can use the room behind the pillar to dodge it||

||also the lasers earlier in the fight are a lot more lenient than the lasers in the final phase||

[pale hollow]

||Alright, I'll keep that in mind, cos I've been standing there and just taking the blast usually||

thanks for the help

[slow ferry]

:)

[errant bramble]

You can also just iframe dash thru the skull wave

[misty ridge]

ye, that's the dodge I was thinking of earlier

[pale hollow]

i know that, but that's sort of hard to do when ||I can't move away from behind the pillar||

at least for me anyway

[errant bramble]

There’s enough room to move around behind the pillar a bit

[pale hollow]

WASD makes it a bit tough I find

[errant bramble]

That sounds like a made up excuse? Lots and lots of people use a keyboard

Myself as well

[pale hollow]

I said I find, it's me being bad for like 90% me and 10% keyboard

[errant bramble]

Hah

[pale hollow]

or less

[misty ridge]

not everyone can dash as easily

[maiden ruin]

Yeah

It takes a lot of practice to dodge things

[pale hollow]

||the hard part for me is when Hades isnt directly opposite one of the directions I can dash, since I don't use dash at cursor||

[errant bramble]

I mean you can distill almost every answer in this discord down to “practice more” just bc it requires practice doesn’t mean it’s not a relevant answer

[errant bramble]

You can also ||stand literally on top of Dad and not get hit by laser and keep whacking him. But I mean right on top of him||

[pale hollow]

👀

[maiden ruin]

Yeah

[pale hollow]

I've seen that done, is it literally that easy?

[maiden ruin]

Kinda

[errant bramble]

It’s pretty easy but maybe take some practice? 🤣🤣

[pale hollow]

I mean I'll try it, that sounds super good

[slow ferry]

I don't think it'll help you dodge waves though

[errant bramble]

True

[pale hollow]

it'll mean I can do something while I get hit by them at least

[misty ridge]

just don't use anything with knockback

[fallow hedge]

Yeah just hug him

He needs love

[mighty pelican]

i need help on the enimies in Temple Of Styx, I use all my 3 death defiances on Theseus and then I just die to poisoning.

[slow ferry]

Do you know how to use the wells to cure poison

Also, if you're losing all your defiances to theseus, then what you really need help with is theseus

[misty ridge]

^

[slow ferry]

Advice for theseus is to learn the spear throwing cues and how to dodge them, and after you defeat the bull you should slow way way down because theseus's attacks are relatively slow

Once there is no longer a bull hunting you down, there is no pressure

[radiant arch]

Also yeah, focus on the Bull first

[pale hollow]

I've heard you can view the entire House of Hades at once somehow, how do I do that?

[misty ridge]

bats

[pale hollow]

Bats?

[maiden ruin]

Buy it from the house contractor

[pale hollow]

oh

[maiden ruin]

Lounge section

Costs like 4 diamonds?

[pale hollow]

Yeah, I see it

Bat Cage all seeing, 3 diamonds

[misty ridge]

mhm

meg will like it

do it when she's in the lounge

[pale hollow]

guess I've got to beat up Lernie a few more times

What gods should I be aiming for with the swords hidden aspect

[maiden ruin]

Get aphro attack or artemis attack

For artemis you should get aphro dash for heartrend

[slow ferry]

hidden sword is a heavy weapon, so you want gods that increase damage %

[misty ridge]

it's a fun one

[pale hollow]

So avoid Zeus, Ares and Dio, that sort of stuff?

[misty ridge]

easy to win

[pale hollow]

Yeah I'm enjoying the weight of it so far

[maiden ruin]

You can grab zeus and dios calls

[pale hollow]

So if I want their calls, take em, otherwise avoid?

[maiden ruin]

Ye

But if you do get one of their calls you can get billowing from zeus

And if you get zeus call you can get double strike or high voltage and hope for his legendary boon

And with aphro attack you can get smoldering air

[pale hollow]

I got his dash this run cos he was my first room, so I'll try to do that

Athena on attack good I assume?

[safe niche]

maybe not

[maiden ruin]

Ye it's good

[safe niche]

huh

[maiden ruin]

Not as good as the others

[pale hollow]

well I've got an epic one here, so I'll take it

[slow ferry]

it's % damage so it'll do

[errant bramble]

Yeah Athena is pretty high % dmg and the deflect is nice on Arthur

[spiral helm]

which path leads to what?

[compact tiger]

Path?

[spiral helm]

i just died once and just got done with the louts and also took the special zues thing

zeus*

[compact tiger]

OH! Was that your first death?

[spiral helm]

yes

i chose divine strike

and then i chose the first one for zeus

got so into it i forgot the name

[compact tiger]

Oh okay. Divine strike is Athena's attack, and then a Zeus boon?

[spiral helm]

yes

the first one

where my special causes lightning bolt to do 30 damage so nearby opponents

[compact tiger]

Alright and your question was, "which path leads to what?" Are you asking what the symbols above the doors represent?

[spiral helm]

are those what they are called

[compact tiger]

Yes, that would be Zeus' special

[spiral helm]

theres two orbs

idk what to call them

[compact tiger]

Are you referring to the sphere above the doors that lead to the next chamber?

[spiral helm]

they are not rly above

as in right in the middle

sorry if i sound a bit dumb

also in the mirror i took the one which replenishes health when u finish a room

[compact tiger]

You don't sound dumb at all, you have questions and I'm hoping to help. Those are a series of symbols to represent the boon or item you'll receive upon clearing the chamber the symbol is over.

[compact tiger]

That is a good one, but if you're just starting out you might want to choose the one that increases your maximum health pool.

[spiral helm]

so let me check

a trident which is poseidon

and something else which i cant quite tell

oh its pomegranate

nvm

[compact tiger]

That would be a "Pom of Power" A pomegranate of the underworld that increases the level and thus the effectiveness of certain boons.

[spiral helm]

ohhh

i picked the poseidon one

since i like water

and i ended up dying straight after

i like the little dialogue when he enters home

[compact tiger]

Poseidon is a good one to go for. Most of his boons have the effect of pushing enemies away from you.

[spiral helm]

ah thatll help

[compact tiger]

And Dying is pinnacle to game play. Accept the death.

[spiral helm]

hades is that you

anyways time to go kill orange things

[compact tiger]

You got this!

[spiral helm]

i got to uphgrade using the hammer

idk what to do

do i go for flurry slash or cursed slash

my current health is 50

so i suppose its useful for now

[compact tiger]

Cursed slash will lower your max HP

Flurry is good as it increases attack speed

What is the other option? or was anyway

[slow ferry]

Lowering your max hp is brutal when you're very new to the game

[compact tiger]

Indeed.

[spiral helm]

i took flurry slash

im at the well of charon and am leaning towards tinge of erebus

as i will be able to get more health when i finish a room

[compact tiger]

How much coin do you have currently?

And how much HP

[spiral helm]

140 coins

total 75 hp

im on 66

63*

[compact tiger]

I would save all of that. You typically want to maintain around 150 coin for a boon in the shop.

[spiral helm]

alright! thanks

YO WHAT THE DUCK

[compact tiger]

What happened?

[spiral helm]

dionysus

i love dionysus

which one do i pick

[slow ferry]

Dionysus boons are all pretty good

You really can't go wrong this early in the game

[spiral helm]

ah#

thanks

[slow ferry]

The thing to learn right now is how zag attacks and how enemies attack

[spiral helm]

what do i use my chthonic keys on

nvm got it

[slow ferry]

Either weapons or mirror

[compact tiger]

Honestly Kerm, at the stage you're at in the game the whole thing is learning and experimentation. You really can't go wrong with unlocking one or the other. Choose boons you feel will help your playstyle.

[slim hamlet]

Dionysus’s call is soooo good
def my favorite

[pale hollow]

mines probably arty's call, those damage numbers are hot

[compact tiger]

BIG 'OL KISSIE

[slim hamlet]

I don’t think I’ve ever used arty’s call

[compact tiger]

Don't let mewmew know that

[pale hollow]

You should, it can take off half of dads health if you get crits

[slim hamlet]

😳

damn

[compact tiger]

BIG 'OL DAMAGE

[slim hamlet]

Do god keepsakes guarantee boons multiple times? Like if I keep it between biomes will it guarantee another boon from them

[safe niche]

no

only once

[slim hamlet]

oof

[compact tiger]

That one I'm unsure of. I thought that once you have a God's boon you're going to encounter them again later in the run.

[safe niche]

u might encounter them again but its not guaranteed

[slim hamlet]

keeping it wouldn’t be a terrible idea though because of the rarity bonus

[safe niche]

if theres a specific build youre going for it would be better to switch keepsakes

to get duo boons and stuff

[normal viper]

@slim hamlet there is a system of a god pool in this game. The way it works is, the game will keep showing you random gods until you have boons from 4 different gods (hermes and chaos dont count, olympians only).

Once you do have 4 gods in your pool, you will only see a boon from those 4, whereas before you could see a boon from any of the 8 olympian gods in the game.

Also note btw, that if you have a keepsake that forced a different 5th god, you will see that god next and they will be added to your pool, giving you a 5 god pool instead of 4

[compact tiger]

Good to know, thanks Paper

[gray haven]

Don't let me know what?

[spiral helm]

i just got the first four weapons

i say first four since im assuming there is more

considering the empty spots

[slow ferry]

if you have all weapons available unlocked, then a new one will pop up after you do a run

it'll be locked, of course

[compact tiger]

Nothing actually. I'm now realizing I misread Arty as Aphro

[gray haven]

Blasphemy. Don't make such a mistake again.

[slim hamlet]

any methods for farming nectar other than just getting lucky

[safe niche]

not that i know of

[slow ferry]

at some point you run out of need for keys

so you can turn all your keys into nectar

[spiral helm]

hi im pretty sure im about to do the first boss

im at 43/133 health have drunken strike, revenge damage from aphrodite, and twin fists

i feel like im not gonna win this one

any tips

[pale hollow]

stick to her back

[spiral helm]

thanks

lmao

[pale hollow]

And when she jumps get back

[spiral helm]

ok

im already dead

got her to around half tho coz of drunken strike

which are the best keepsakes? i got the cerberus collar which got me to meg

[leaden whale]

gods, tooth, acorn, purse

[mild kelp]

Honestly if you're still in the struggling to get through Meg, probably the tooth (skelly)

but I guess that also kinda depends on how leveled cerberus is and how much health you start with at the mirror

[plucky juniper]

Do ||Blood Frenzy|| effect stack if you ||use death defiance multiple times in the same room||?

Description: ||After using Death Defiance, deal more damage that encounter. ||

[spiral helm]

update: im in asphodel

ok im at the boat with a diamond

havent seen that before

what is it

im at 15 health so i need to be prepare

[safe niche]

thats the boss

good luck

[spiral helm]

fffffff

thanks

[normal viper]

no

[spiral helm]

what do i do with the blood i got from meg

wait i have to go thru tartarus again?7

[safe niche]

yes

[mild kelp]

You have to go through every single level and every single boss each time. It gets easier though, don't worry

[mild kelp]

You can use it to upgrade your weapons after you unlock all of them

[spiral helm]

i didnt even die this time with meg

so i feel a bit better

[misty ridge]

Welcome to the world of roguelites

[maiden ruin]

No

[wispy scarab]

just beat meg!

[ivory ocean]

congrats!

[fallow hedge]

Lets go!!

[wispy scarab]

doesn’t it feel weird to enter a new room after being stuck for so long lol

[safe niche]

it feels good :)

[amber laurel]

So, should i focus my titan's blood all in one aspect? Or is it alright if i go out and experiment with various ones?

[radiant arch]

You'll eventually max them all out so, i May say go for Whatever you want the most

[errant bramble]

Most aspects function at 1 blood, but some really need to be maxed for full effect (Chiron for example gets WAY better with more arrows)

[stable saffron]

The tier list of Level 1 aspects is very different from Level 5

Just look at at Chaos or Dem, going from a 100% increase to a 500%

Makes some weapons feel a lot weaker than others at first

[amber laurel]

Damn