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right next to the aspect of chaos you will see a little box with 1 titan blood on it
np
is there any way i can farm more blood?
once you escape for the first time you will get more blood
also once you defeat third boss you can trade the thing you got from third boss for more blood
and trading items will slowly get you titan blood
i coun't kill the third boss, i kill one of them then the lance one killed me
but once you kill them you can trade the thing you got from them for titan blood
where do i get new weapons? i unlockeed all of them but i want new ones
after your next run you will unlock weapon aspects if you unlocked all 6 weapons
There’s only 6 weapons, but they all have aspects
hello
hi!
||Ok... So I'm a tad confused about how the Pact of Punishment works||
||I mean, what do I get for making things harder?||
that mechanic is only after you beat the end boss, so you should use || spoilers || to talk about it here
after you beat a boss with a weapon, you can't get more boss rewards from that boss with that weapon
||the heat system allows you to get more boss rewards per boss per weapon, but every time you get a reward, the minimum heat required to get that reward increases by 1||
What does upping a boons rarity do?
it boosts the power of the boon
Like how is it different from upping the level?
Ok
@sweet maple rarity and pom bonuses are just additive. Poms give diminishing returns, and some boons can't be leveled with poms. The first pom can often be as good as or even better than an increase in rarity, but the second pom is almost always worse.
For example, not one of Lord Hermes's boons can be pommed. The only way to make them stronger is by increasing their rarity.
on that note, is there a good general rule for what to receive from eurydice?
for me it depends on how my run is going
if I got a bunch of basic boons for whatever reason I'd rather try to up the boon rarity of the ones I have
if I'm actually having boons where I'll prefer lvls I'll go with that one
but in general I tend to like future boon rarity to be better 
Not really. I can tell you I take Refreshing Nectar most of the time, but my builds will likely be a lot more optimized towards DPS than yours at that point and towards getting what I want from that point forward, so Refreshing Nectar helps me capitalize on that. But I also take the other options depending on the situation.
when do i get to use ambrosia? when i beat the final boss?
when you unlock a characters heart
whats that
if you give a character enough nectar you wont be a able to give them any more nectar, then you need to do something to unlock a heart that is stopping you from giving them any more nectar, once you unlock that heart instead of nectar you will give them ambrosia
i see
Is increasing rarity better than increasing levels though? Like with Eurydice if I spelled that right
Depends on the boon and the current level.
depends on what level the boon is
generally speaking you can upgrade the level pretty easy, there's no other way to increase rarity as far as I know
eurydice has something that increases boon rarity and also ||demeter||
yeah right I forgot about that, but still its way easier to level up compared to increasing rarity
Sooo, im currently at the final heart with aphrodite, what do i need to do to unlock it?
you need to max your relationship with, meg and than, meg and dusa, or than and dusa.
i think
wait
apparently you need to max your relationship with all 3 of them
Well, time to grind some nectar i guess, thanks :D
np
I wonder what's good build for Aspect of Zagreus?
where can I see the ammount of times I've died? it says how many runs, but death's, is that in the office? please ping me if you know
take runs, subtract clears - congrats you now know deaths
i'm sorry. idk, it might show somewhere else, but I'm too tired to remember properly, so that's a diy method >.<
oh, and ||I also misread your statement
indeed it might just show in the admin chamber||
sorry again - I'll go sleep 
Okay I guess I can upgrade ||my weapons now. I have 3 bloods. I was thinking of using them on the spear but I don't know. Using consumables is always so tricky.||
the 5 basic slots. Is there a list of what each of those are ? tia
for the boons? I think it's regular attack, special, dash, cast, call
thanks a ton
I got this game for my birthday a week ago and it is such a fun game.
The developers really knocked it out of the park.
Sword
so did i
you have to buy a ||scrying bowl|| from the house contractor
any tips on how to confidently beat the final boss? i can consistantly reach it and get to the final phase, it's just really difficult to sustain my health even with ||stubborn defiance||
what aspect do you use?
i beat the ||hydra|| the first time i got to him!....couldent beat ||asterion and theseus|| tho
Quick Question regarding the Daedalus Hammer abilities...Do they stack?
Yes you can have multiple
stubborn defiance is for when you have more trouble with regular rooms than bosses. DD is usually better for where you're at
When you can regularly make it the final boss you'll want to be using DD instead of Stubborn Defiance. Hone those dodge skills to avoid early losses of DD. I myself struggle to not lose one or even two to Theseus and Asterius.
thank you so much illl try that out
i run fists with the magnetic aspect
ooh thats a fun aspect
also fists are a difficult weapon to get your first clear with imo because of the low range
if youre comfortable with them, ranged weapons like the bow and rail are easier
some people also find it easier to clear with shield
i hvae gotten super far with the spear
nice
just unlocked the gun, im gonna do a run with it
@finite kite take the zeus keepsake if you have it
chain lightning is so good with gun
dont have it, zues is a jerk so he hasnt gotten his ambrosia yet
that stuff isnt ambrosia?
ok
also That Was Very Much Not Meg
i dont like thaaaat
you get ambrosia from the third boss
rng
crap
good rng
ok, why are boons shinyer when im picking doors sometimes, rarity?
oh
i dont really know what you mean by "shinyer"
theres 3 more
ughhh
Well, you have more practice against Meg than the others.
Alecto's attacks are all essentially weaker versions of Meg's, just that she also has her bladerifts.
ok, also, is there a wa to gaurentee hermes boons
his keepsake is the speedrun feather
ok!
wait his boon isnt guaranteed in tart but its pretty common
i take it its impossible to fully level all your weapons?
you can trade for more
and once you beat the game you will get more blood
you have to beat third boss for the trade to show up
rn i have 60 blood
c o s m i c e g g
Is it true that Dusa gives you back all the Ambrosia you give her?
Shoot. I don’t know if I clicked through that choice. I take it the choice shows up when she’s Max hearts?
Nice! Pretty sure that hasn’t happened yet. What do you get out of Max ambrosia with the love interests?
bonds, you unlock aphros heart, and you get to have a fun time
oh and companions
Like Mort?
yeah
How do I unlock the final stage for Exagryph?
pinned messages in #h1-story-discussion
Hi, I've started a few days ago, what can I do with Titan Blood?
they become useful once you unlock all weapons
Ah, better get enough keys first, then
ok, if i have multiple casts stuck in a dude, does my damadge bonus sta k or is it just a matter of any number giving 20%
What's the sixth infernal arm?
gun
Weird, I've just spent the keys but the weapon doesn't show up in the codex
You equip it?
It's equipped
complete a run with it
die
Oh that's definitely going to happen lolol
is there supposed to be anything in the vase room?
vase room?
Is there any particular weapon I should spend my Titan Blood on, first?
Spend it on a weapon you like, that’s all
your favorite weapon
but spending blood on spear is required for something later in the game
Something spoileriffic?
no I think it's the Blade
yeah
it's Stygius you're talking about, right?
hidden aspects
oh, right
Well, both of them got something to unlock later
spend it on what you like
quick question: do specific boons show up again if you dont pick them the first time?
They are not guaranteed to show up again but most of the time they will show up
neat ty
levelling up boons is basically increasing their magnitude right ? so for damaging boons, levelling up means the damage dealt increases and that's what lvl up means in that case, eh ?
or does lvl up mean something else ?
Leveling up boons is improving their effectiveness or general strength.
okay good. so then what does their rarity i.e rare, epic, legendary, etc. mean ? can a single boon be rare and epic ? or are those just classes of boons
Rarity means the boon is just all around better. It will be better when you first get It and will receive larger bonuses from level ups.
A single boon can only have one rarity
And legendarys are special boons that have a unique effect that can not be obtained through lower rarity boons
Common, rare, and epic are all three variants of rarity, each better then the last
yea but Ambrosia Delight upgrades the rarity of your boons. that wouldn't be possible if a certain boon could only exist at a given rarity
The boon is upgraded from the previous rarity, it isn’t considered to be 2 rarities at once.
There is means to increase the rarity of boons if that’s what you’re asking
I wanted to know what's the difference between levelling up a boon and upgrading its rarity
levelling up seems pretty simple. lvl up basically increases whatever the boon offers
although I still have a feeling that upgrading the rarity is more worthy
not that there's often a choice between the 2
Yes, generally upgrading rarity is very valuable, though there is few chances to do so.
No problem!
is there a list of what bosses ive killed with what?
Yeah
First you have to go to sleep for the second time
Then get fired from your job
And then idk how but there will be a work order to unlock the admin chamber
Sorry idk how to unlock it
It's been a while
Well, kinda different with chaos boons since they can have multiple rarities, but the curse might be different 
Right but generally speaking
Ye
Chaos boons are special
Tripped me up first time I noticed I had 2 chaos boons w the same name tho
||with demeter a boon can have all the rarities||
By the time you go for multiple chaos boons I figure you know how rarity works
Also true
That’s what I was alluding to with upgrading rarities. I was trying to answer without spoils however
@subtle widget @gray ore rarity bonuses and pom bonuses are just additive. For example, the first pom on Heartbreak Strike is always +20% regardless of rarity.
Oh thanks for clarifying.
Sure thing.
Poms have diminishing returns, and some boons can't be upgraded with poms, so that's where the value in upgrading rarity lies.
First pom is usually somewhat comparable to a rarity upgrade in power, but it depends on the boon.
Sometimes the first pom is more powerful, other times a rarity upgrade is more powerful.
hi
hi
what is this hades monthly challange thing
every month there is a challenge
you basically have to escape with some rules for your build
Any tips for getting past the end boss ive been getting up there every time now but i cant get past the second phase
there are only two phases right
Yes
||When you get to the final phase you should play extra careful, whenever you see hades begin an attack dash away, in the first phase you can deal with the laser attack normally, dash behind him as he shoots lasers, but in the second phase you should hide behind the two rocks on the left and right side, when he spawns pots you should use a cast or a dash to destroy them, make sure you have something like athena's dash and make sure you don't dash attack, or you can use a call like poseidon or athena's call||
you can attack him while he shoots lasers?
Yeah
when i did phase 2 for the first (and only) time it felt like they tracked me with no need for lead
if i dont want to lose hp is it better to just stand behind the pillers for both phases
Yes
||for stage 1 of phase 2 it's safe to attack him since the lasers only shoot in front of him||
Yeah but it's slow
If you don't dash attack
i see
Np
That's currently my biggest mistake is I constantly spam dash attacks as opposed to dash then attack
I have finally vanquished Redacted for the first time!! 🎉
I screamed.
Legit have no clue how to defeat thesius and the minotaur though ive been baiting them around the pillars so that im not targetted but theres literally only so much kiting i can do while attacking lmao.. any help other than hiding behind pillars?
scary bull
dash when bull go bouncy mode
in the beginning i focused on only the Minotaur first! then went for thesius!
also try to learn asterius's moves to avoid his attacks. like when he jumps and strikes three times so that way you don't get caught getting damage too close to him. oh another thing in the beginning for me (bc they were literally the bane of my existence) was when he starts to charge, dash through a pillar so he runs into it and stops 🙂 hope that helps ❤️
helpful thing about theseus is that you can do a lot of damage to him while he summons the gods since he doesn't block
What's the best easy to get diamonds?
I have one at the moment but it's either Orpheus' stand or a fishing rod.
Any other ways to get diamonds?
Slay big snake skeleton with every weapon...
There's also a bunch of fated prophecies that give diamonds
And you'll be able to get more diamonds once you beat the final boss
can help. every time I close the app, my game is not saved and it reset from the start. what should I do?
Have you asked about this in the tech support channel?
yea no reply
haha it was blocked by windows security. unfortunately cant retrieve my game yesterday 😦
well that sucks. I unfortunately don't know enough to help
There's a guide to retrieve corrupted saves in #h1-tech-fixes
No worries
the files were lost not corrupted. anyway I will reset from scratch
im trying to ||get the keepsake of achillis|| but i cant gift him any more necter
??any idea why?
||sry his companion only not keepsake||
Got to get some dialogue first
Spoiler: ||Achilles' companion requires the relationship progressions of 2 persons including Achilles||
||Achilles wants to be reunited with patroclus which is the guy you can encounter in Elyssium, to manage that I think you just need to give patroclus and achilles enough nectar and talk with them until at some point a special dialogue triggers and achilles will want to go find him, you need the help of nyx to be able to change achilles contract at the house contractor for the price of 5 diamonds, after that you can give achilles ambrosia and get his companion||
how very detailed
||I'm guessing finding Patroclus is a matter of finding the ! door on Elysium if the RNG gods let me, right?||
yep
ye
||any e a s y companions to get??||
uhm..
||they all need you to get past locked hearts..||
Actually ||Achilles's is the hardest companion to get because it requires 2 people, all the other ones only require to improve your relation with one single person||
I found skelly's to be the easiest
||3 people||
||you have to be at certain hearts w nyx too||
||According to Reddit posts, befire getting Antos you may be supposed to have already done Sisyphus or Orpheus quest or both which means you've alrealdy interacted a lot with Sisyphus, Orpheus and Nyx||
not everyone does things in the same order, so when explaining you have to take it like it's their first one
this is the new player channel
eventually things get figured out
Yeah, just saying that it's no surprise if this case is unlocked very lately
I just reached ||the locked heart with Thanatos|| will the game explain me what to do next or is there something I should be doing on my own?
it will not explain
Ooop 😅 so what should I do to progress?
want an explanation?
Yeah. Or a hint
||Beating Thanatos after giving him 6 Nectar will randomly prompt a discussion between the two.. Once Zagreus proves his strength to Thanatos, Thanatos can be given Ambrosia the next time he is encountered in the House of Hades.||
cut out some stuff in the middle - like what ||the discussion|| is about
Ahhhh thanks!
Thanks!
Also that shield is a pain in my ass 😅
I cleared with all the weapons now except that one. I think I am at 8-9 clears now
I’m just weird
Yeah hahaha but it just seems to deal very little damage 😅
get doom on it or so
it can bounce around inflicting doom
boom lots of dmg on multiple enemies
it's very nice in general for adding status effects
try doom
Yeah thanks for the tip!
even basic special doom is like 60 dmg or smth
nice
ya, but is there any easy ones??
like, u need multiple stuff for achillis
easier stuff like collecting some thing or smt lol
||Than?|| I guess..
Or ||Meg..|| - but you need a lot of rng for that one
||skelly|| too I suppose
||for skelly just level up the aspect of zagreus on the sword completly and then slay skelly with it, obv you'd have to max'd out skellys nectar counter before and it requires a bunch of titan blood but at least you'd have a companion||
||his companion is trash imo||
||the easiest one is probably meg, you just have to kill her over and over again, until she shows up in your room twice, then you will unlock her heart||
||unlock her heart sound so oddly romantic 😆||
||it can get romantic with meg...||
👀
Damn.
Oh
Question about that actually
||there’s three you can romance with right? Do you have to choose or can you do more than one? Or do you lose that status with one once you move forward with another?||
||yeah theres three, and you can choose all of them||
||well you can only choose 2, the third one friendzones you||
I heard about that 😅
Nice! ||i’m a useless bi disaster and I cannot chose for the life of me||
||if you time it correctly you can choose both of them at the same time||
😳 what? NICE
its really hard tho
just to note ||Dusa doesn't friendzone you, ace and aro platonic relationships are just as valid as every other relationship||
I just hadn’t look at it that way (but I am not that far yet) I live for LGBTQIA rep 💖
same, Hades does LGBTQIA+ rep incredibly well and it's implemented incredibly naturally too 
I love my ||platonic soul mate|| 
they be living their best lives being ||best friends for all eternity|| 
indeed :3
Is there any guidance on the relationship side of things anywhere please?
Just nectar, favor to unlock heart, then ambro
bonds or relationships with ||than, meg, and dusa?||
YES

yeah this is pretty much it
If there’s an arrow you know you’ve found the right character
Relationships with || dusa, Meg and Than || but thanks to everyone!
May I ask so how does God Mode effect gameplay ?
Does I just get instant damage reduction or I have to stack it up
you gain 20% damage reduction and every death you gain 2% damage reduction
So wait is it possible for like 100% damage reduction or does it stop at a certain percentage ?
it stops at 80%
it just takes practice
It just overwhelming
Weapons with a range options to attack with works great on him
Spear special, shield special
Shield is a pretty great weapon overall ngl
Tbh I dislike using the shield
But I like being captain america so I will practice some more with it
do cursed slash(restore 2hp per attack) and piercing wave(attack fires a projectile that deals 30 damage) synergise?
damn
yeah i was thinking of that
unfortunately its not an option
got double edge though
i have concluded that cursed slash really isn't that good lol
cursed slash is good
the bad part is that it doesnt work with dash attack
so with flurry slash its really good
you basically cant die
true
what
Oh nvm i read the rest of the convo
Yeah cursed slash is bad without flurry
Or hermes attack speed
what does flurry slash do
it just means your combo becomes a two hit combo that can be repeated if you hold down attack
yeah
i see
is the only thing you can do with ambrosia, trading it with the wretched broker?
because ive collected a few bottles now but never had any use for them
||it's late game nectar||
gotta unlock hearts for it to be useful
you can use it to ||advance relationships and upgrade Summons later||
🦴 + 🐍
im really enjoying the bow so far
every time i use melee weapons i just get hit by a lot of stuff
man theseus is ANNOYING. i have no idea how to do damage to him
you have to constantly anticipate where he's moving
and go behind him to hit him
After throwing spear he ALWAYS turns around, exposing his back
yeah thats what i figured out
probably a bit too late, as im on 14 HP and he still has more than half health
i assume he gets new cool moves once he hits 50%
He gets... 1 cool new move
pretty much yeah
for the sake of my sanity because i have hated the dungeons in elysium and dont want to have to do them again, what is it?
never mind i found out
He picks a god that you don't have yet and that god attacks you
yep
it was zues
i was cheesing it pretty well and then that lightning storm forced me to move around
and he got me when i couldnt get behind something
hate || demeter call ||
really?
I kinda like it
||great for open spaces, covers a lot of ground, doubly so for the Greater||
I hate it the few times I came across it in trials, and when theseus uses it
Couldn't agree more
yeah dude Theseus using it is pretty poopy
the problem with theseus using it is that if you try and dodge into the center then he just gets a free hit on you, and since the circles are so wide it is tricky to dodge out
wait, the center of demeter call doesn't do damage?
well like the center of the circles
cause they go in rings
so theres a small spot in the middle where none of them hit
but it leaves you wide open to theseus' main attacks
I mean the actual demeter call, the expanding frost circle that deals DoT
not the series of rings in a pattern
no no that all does damage
but if you have the Shield, being open to attacks is a non-issue
that's true
okay but like
what should i focus on
should i farm resources?
i got all the weapons already
Focus on having fun
fax
you'll get more resources if you get further per run anyway
What's your longterm goal? Just beating the game?
Can somebody explain me how to unlock my first aspect? I have the list, unlocked every weapon, and reached the final boss (I think this is final boss, 4 one)
When you equip a weapon, just press that button again to open the aspect list. You need Titan Blood to unlock aspects in that menu.
is there a way for you to know how many Titans Bloods you have put into a weapon?
1st aspects: 1/1/1/1/1 = 5
2nd aspects: 1/2/3/4/5 = 15
3rd aspects: 2/2/3/4/5 = 16
4th aspects: 3/3/3/3/3 = 15
cause im trying to unlock this aspect ||Beowulf||
Ah. This post in #h1-story-discussion has all the info you need for hidden aspects: #h1-story-discussion message
It's also pinned there should you need to find it again.
ik u have to talk to ||Chaos|| after u put some titans blood into the ||Shield|| and ive done that but and i have the ||Aspect Of Guan Yu|| unlocked as well
It’s still rng
but its just not triggering the conversation
There’s no avoiding rng in here
so its just a random conversation then
Yeah
Most things are
i actually got the right one too trigger a few minutes ago
beating the game with all weapons and maybe just 100% - ing it
then just have fun - you'll need it
mainly now too my goal is to get mpre titan blood
does the game provide enough to unlock everything
yes
is Call even that useful? i never use it and the few time's ive attempted to nothing really happens
calls are awesome
but they tend to be best when you save up in boss battles
like aphro call can be real useful in final boss fight
and arties can decimate boss hp at max gauge
calls are extremely useful
oh
you just gotta figure out whats good to use when & which ones really ought to only be used at max gauge
plus some are prerequisites for duos
is there like a menu to see what boons i currently have active
oh
at the contractor
rn i only have the one that lets me see a list of the ones that the gods offer
that's the one
if you use it mid run
and you look at the duos & such
they'll make the ones you have be green
so you can see which prerequisite boons you already got & which ones you'll need
same w legendary - it'll show the prerequisites & if you have them they'll be green instead of white
are you on keyboard and mouse?
yes
press b to see all the boons you have
ah, thank you
how do duos work?
You need the prerequisite boons from two of the gods who offer duo boons. Once you do, one or both will offer the duo boon which has an effect that combines the two god's abilities.
that’s neat
It is indeed. Some are rather powerful for certain builds.
what should i do with ambrosia
Use it to fill unlocked hearts or trade them for blood
should i jsut get blood
If you want to
is there really enough resources to go around to get everything in the game 100%?
looking forward to it
im looking forward to when i hit a point where i cant win a run because the ||heat is too high and i have to farm gems and keys on lower heats just to save up enough for a titans blood||
||heat is a spoiler||
oh sorry my bad
almost beat final boss on first try 😭
you’ll get’m next time
hades actually encourages me to take breaks because every time i spend like 30 minutes on a run and die i dont have the willpower to do it over again for a while
Is it worth doing chaos gates?
yeah
usually the boons are worth the health loss or downside for the next few encounters
There are great boons in there. I like the dash strike bonus
I'm on run 40~ and just beat Tartarus without dying with the spear for the first time. It's the baby steps 😂
What's better aspect for shield?
try out zeus, you can attack while your special is out
the other shield aspects are also really good but zeus is the best at level 1 i think
Do Zeus or Chaos aspects make sense if using Fam Fav instead of Priv Stat?
i do have a question about something i'm just curious more than anything else ||by increasing ur relationships with the gods and getting their hearts to max level does that increase the chances of getting a Legendary Boon from them?? or is it just RNG||
it's just RNG
for hades should i trade my ambrosia for titan blood. all my people only have 1 or sometimes 2 red hearts so i don't need ambrosia at the moment
you'll probably want to keep some ambrosia around
ok ill just save it for now
is there any point to doing that cure thing in the final area before the end boss? i dont really understand what it does
cure removes the poison effects that some enemies in the temple of styx give you
it is pretty annoying yeah
also, is it guaranteed to get the satyr food thing on the second time?
No
because thats always when i find it
oh wow
its been like 4 runs and its always second try
It felt like that when I first tried but
sometimes it takes all 5 paths
Yeah
jesus
it really is the worst feeling
I never get it on 5 when I want it on 5 
you can also use it during the encounter when ur posioned so u can stop taking damage from it which is nice
pog!! congrats
It can't appear in the first tunnel you take. Second tunnel has about a 54% chance to have the sack.
skill issue
||arthur|| is a spoiler
Oh my sweet lord ||Hades let me go out without a fight now? 👀|| good timing, didn’t think I was gonna beat him with the shield anyway 😅
Epic
@random jasper had the same thing happen at that point for me as well. Except inverse
I was like, man I'm geared up. Can't wait to insta-clap his cheeks instantly.
Ope. That sucks 😅
Tbh am glad it happened with the shield. It just doesn’t work for me... and this way I got the rewards anyway 😂
How do you get past him without having to fight??
||on your tenth clear he will let you go||
Ah ok, is that every time after or just on that one?
Just that one
I think I heard somewhere that ||the absolute story ending is after clear 20?||
||the main story ends at 10 clears but there is an epilogue that takes way more than 20 clears||
im gonna get carpal tunnel
Argh I'm sorry
Kbm or controller? Maybe a different posture would help
maybe its just my playstyle but disc blitz has got to be one of the worst boons in the game
the zeus shield?
some would call it the best
you can block while your special is out
hm, yeah ig im used to using it for a lot of quick damage across multiple enemies
there's no "worst aspect"
every aspect can be very powerful is you build and use it correctly
the only exception being zagius
Stygius aspect of Zag?
From what I experienced, Disc Blitz is good simply because it applies special effects on it for each hit, so, applicable status curses stacks up fast on that one
it's great with support fire 
Yeah, that one too
yeah zeus attack+supporting fire+splitting is craaazy
what is there for aspect of zeus shield?
also if someone could tell me what the best aspect is for the bow and spear that would be appreciated because i like those weapons (also where to get more then the intial 6 titan bloods)
so i think this has been said before but the ||aspects|| are mostly just preference
many people tend to like ||aspect of chiron|| on bow
and for spear many people use ||achilles||
ill reply to this in the hades discussion channel to avoid spoilers for other people
achilles spear is probably the best aspect for spear, chiron is pretty easy to use but hera is also really good
currently i have chaos shield zeus shield 1 point in zag spear (i wasnt bright then) and hades spear
hey i like zag spear ):
zag spear isnt good
))):
'Tis true. It's not very good.
But what do you expect for only 5 Titan Blood to max it. 
It can be fun, though. Just the DPS is poor without Flurry Jab.
i suppose thats fair, i almost always take flurry jab with it
i dont like spear
It's my only weapon with 0 clears
I could get a clear with it but I don't play with it since I hate it
Problem with that is that you only have two shots at Flurry Jab, pretty much.
Since you only get two hammers.
i wish u could use fated persuasion on daedalus
if i dont get flurry jab i usually just go for a crit based special build
Special builds are very safe but have very very low DPS.
ill go for the daedalus that gives crit chance on the return of special and take aphrodite special or artemis special and just onjoy big numbers
yeah
it isnt super viable for fast runs but its kinda therapeutic
i never use a special build except with ||achilles||
bruh what
I play Hades last 19 hours and its finish. I like it!
nice
Thanks mate
how do you clear a run with twin fists; i find it difficult
What do you find difficult about it
short range
Theres a hammer upgrade called long knuckle that gives more range and damage that can help a bit
hm, ok
You can also use aspect of talos if you want although most people would recomend demeter
If your having trouble liek with enemies flying into the lava in asphodel or somethign
bad
you could use a really op build called merciful end, you just need ares attack, athena special and athena dash, merciful end makes attacks with a deflect boon on it immediately sets off doom, so you need to dash strike to set off the doom, the attack applies doom and the dash sets off the doom, for hammers you could get long knuckle, breaching jab (i think thats what its called), and rolling knuckle, for hermes you should try to get more dashes.
oh yeah
||Gilg's|| a spoiler I think
hm, ill try a run
well like... hidden fists isnt good, but it's fine. you can definitely win with it.
try a run after you censor ||Gilgamesh||
oh
I can complete without using pacts to get true ending right? Or do I need to do pacts for true ending?
Ah I see a lot more to go thank you
ilove children
I don't particularly love them but they arnt bad
i like running zeus attack and supporting fire on fists
what is the easiest way to get a run clear
ping me in this chat if you answer so i can check
uhh, how much mirror do you have unlocked
and weapons i guess
i havent gotten the 30 keys yet but have most stuff in it (full +50 health and 2 death defiance along with damage on casts along then more)
the last tier has some really powerful effects (that cost a good amt of darkness)
i like the bow (no aspect yet) shield (zeus) and spear (hades)
not a fan of the others
ill get on that then
you get the upgrade that ||increases duo and legendary chances|| and then you ||pick one of the really good duos that everyone talks about and do everything in your power to get it|| and then you win relatively easily
the spoilered parts aren't post-endboss spoilers but like... they're things people might want to discover on their own
and I'm not sure this is a very fun way to play
the fun answer is "keep playing as long as you're having fun, and if you're not having fun then take a break, it's ok, zag isn't real and he can wait"
||heat's|| a spoiler
oh
I would recommend using the shield for that, and then abusing block. The Shield is a very begginner friendly weapon in my opinion and relatively quite easy to win because the block provides a very safe way to play (because you can just hold a button and then almost every threat is nullified)
As long as you have a little bit of patience, you should be fine
I basically just need to learn patience now
i abuse tf out of block on that weapon but i get risky and need to get better at playing more passive
Speak of the devil lmfaoo
Yeah, I understand xD
But being careful and focusing on avoid being hit is, in general, the fastest way to learn the game imo
The Shield just gives you a much easier time with that
Yeah. I use the bow basically as a challenge atm
Thanks! I will probs come back tmrw hopefully having beaten the third boss at that point!
Gone into that fight twice now and lost both times
which one's that? the bull of minos right
bull and his friend
it switches up for me
sometimes i face bull of minos first and then both of them with minos at 80% hp, sometimes i just only face both of them at 100%
Bull is one of the two minibosses of the biome that's why ^_^
two minibosses? did i miss something?
i doubt you mean that room with like the ultra butterfly ball and the like blue enemies that spawn in over time as the floating balls
some rooms have a little skull with a red pip next to it underneath the reward symbol
that means you're entering into a miniboss room
which will give you better boons than otherwise
the really big butterfly ball is another miniboss yeah
oh yeah those
Dire Soul Catcher is the name of that one.
||any way to find titan blood other than from charons shop and the first boss||??
yes
well, that literally didnt help me in any way(joke)
but it's spoiler
can tell if you still want to know
well, non spoiler version is the infernal broker in the lounge
spoiler would be ||final boss drops it|| & ||after you beat final boss you get something which will let you get the boss drops again & again for a while||
you also get it with every weapon if there's some you haven't tried yet
or, gotten that far with yet
methinks no weapon remain
ye, but still worth mentioning
well, both spoilers are what im triyng to get over
||i need the new aspect to defeat the final boss||
then, how do i get infrenal broker to join the lounge
uhm.. the extra ultra spoiler version is ||you have a chance at fishing it up after you defeat final boss if there's a fishing spot there||
fix the lounge?
hehe, very funny
ya
not a joke tho
what to do to get him there
you do need ||the fishing rod ofc||
yea,unlike my gaming skills
oh
hmm, I'll have to look it up I guess? he just appears in the right corner afaik
k
sorry 
i already hav that guy
but i already got one from him
now i need more ||ambrosia||
mhmm, then you'll have to either check daily for the limited deal or try & get more of the usual stuff he wants for it
good luck!
oooh!
last thing!
Prophecies =w=
they can give blood too
limited deal i guess
oh!! forgot bout em!! thnx
yea lemme go do some prophs
Looks like all weapons have a special aspect at the bottom, how do I get to unlock those?
theres a post in hades discussion about this i believe
It’s in #h1-story-discussion
ah right
In the pins
you need to get the spear first, which is obtained by a story moment with achillies. After that, you need to put 5 blood into the weapon you want, and talk to an npc, it is different for each one and ill leave you to find them yourself.
Yeah, I checked the pinned message a while ago, that's the gist of it
||And then 5 Blood on the other weapons to unlock their aspects after that one is unlocked||
That info is spoilers in this channel. 
nice
Damn i got to ||hades and beat the first phase but could not do much on 20 health with no death defiance left lol||
yeah, thats how i was my first run that i got to that
same i was like
yay i finally beat him ||oh theres a second phase||
"WOW you got killed by redacted?? i dont even know what a redacted is! must be pretty tough!"
You should probably hide ||second phase||
isnt that essential info for new players
Idk
I just want the new players to be really happy when ||they beat the first phase and then realize that there is a second||
terrible
Any info about that fight is spoilers in this channel.
goddamn the ||eurydice|| chamber goes hard
the music?
yeah
you can stay forever
is it?
images & such tend to be in this chat
i forget if i got it before/after final boss
also sorry about the mods thing, didnt check the rules thoroughly enough ig
sometimes accidentally
no, it's just to not confuse others - there's a modding server pinned in.. #self-promotion ?
ah
how do i see what and where all my boons are? what button do i press for pc?
B
For the Switch version it's -, right?
yep
I tend to mistake that with L
It's share for the ps5 controller
(I just knew this last week usually I just clicked v or b on my keyboard)
Subtle flex /s
Welcome to the club 
we are opening up a gaming lounge in Torontt, prob gonna have Hades as one of our games to play
everybody in this server is addicted
anyone here from toronto let me know if you would like an invite to our grand opening soon
glad im not the only one
I'm working on befriending all the characters, some more then others, but once I get to the locked hart I can't give them any nectar or ambrosia, do I just keep playing until something unlocks or something?
They require a favor or extra dialogue
Hmmm okay
Dont worry all will come naturally as long you play
Good plan :D
i just finished my 10th clear and holy crap thats fun
Congrats! I just did that last weekend! It's totally amazing!
oodfjask ikr
I am so late to this party, but I am absolutely loving Hades!
No one is ever late to the party Java 
should I take chaos portals on the first floor or are they just bad?( I think theyre called that but if they arent then the portals where you lose hp when you jump into them)
O ye me too Java got the game less then a week ago
chaos is pretty nice and getting 21 health back isnt too bad usually
almost always take a chaos boon you think you can survive
if you're coming up on a boss you've never beaten before, maybe avoid it, but otherwise
What is the upgrade where you get less health but your attacks heal? I got it at the start of the run and now I'm farther than I've ever been, beat the asphodel boss first time
Cursed Slash.
@oak gyro cursed slash
||aspect of guan yu on the spear also heals||
yeah my first and only clear was with cursed slash too its so good
i have heard its better with flurry jab too
isnt cursed slash a sword hammer though? and flurry is for spear?
flurry jab goes on sword
||the spear healing is an aspect you unlock after a bunch of conditions||
||unlock 5 other aspects, fight hades once, some other wacky stuff then there's a chance achilles will tell you more about getting the aspect||
oh
i dont know ive never gotten it
||spear only heals on the spin attack tho its not like cursed slash where every attack heals||
might wanna spoiler that but yeah
Ah that's what it was called
I died to theseus
smug pos
flurry jab is a spear hammer, flurry slash is the sword hammer
spear hammers end in jab
sword hammers end in slash
but not all of them
That's discrimination. Spears can slash, too. 
oh no
hi ive been playing for about a month and a half, but i dont understand how to ||fish.||
*i still dont
Fishing is hard for me too. I’m usually too early or too late 😅
The lure has to jump high with a white effect
The lil jumps are not the right time to fish
you keep an eye & an ear out for the fishing spot
then you clear the room if there's enemies & walk over to the spot & interact
you listen for the audio cue & watch for the flash - sometimes it's better not to look right at the fishing spot itself
you then reel in by interacting again
the rarity is determined by speed
you can have up to 3? fake bobs, and then the 4th will be a real one, but the real one can occur at any time
I think that's all the info I can remember >.>
I hope some of that information helps 
I didnt know that :ooo
Resources for the house. Darkness, gemstones, keys, and nectar
Ah, ok.
wait you can fish?
Well you gotta buy a rod first
lol imagine if high could just use your hands
Zag HAS a spear
he also has a gun
what boons should I aim for if I'm using the shield?
How do we unlock the fishing rod, though?
It’ll happen
You can eventually buy it from the contractor - I don’t remember the prerequisites 
It just happened for me
Also this might be very noob question but why tf can't I see the gauntlets
How many weapons have you unlocked?
the shield spear and bow
I haven't got past elysium either if that has anything to do with it
Once you unlock 4 weapons you'll see the 5th one
https://imgur.com/Cy0KHBg I don't see it tho 
you have to do a run with all of the weapons at least once
that's how they get registered
do a run, and it should show up once you return ^_^
don't have to do a run with all the weapons @misty ridge

You get the fishing rod from contract man for a diamond
i just got ||my first companion, can you use it only once every run or once every room? lol||
Once every room, but you can upgrade it with ambrosia and buy more uses from a well
ah nice
You have to have additional uses to use it in multiple rooms.
well you cant do it more than once every room
It can be done once per room so long as you have a use of it and only once per run unless you upgrade it to allow additional uses or purchase an item from charon's shop to add another usage.
good game
i agree
it gets way easier as you go on, keep fighting
that's true
but I honeslty still have no clue what to do with those diamonds and titan blood
have you already upgraded everything?
Keep them for now if you haven't upgraded everything.
Alright
Omg what a run. Bow with the hidden aspect, no spectacular boons. Used up 7 death defiances along the way (thank you sweet friend in Elysium and Athena). ||satyr sack|| in the djdhsksjs last tunnel 😨 go to [redacted] with full health (about 275) but with no death defiance left. Made it with over 100 health left 😅 I have no idea how I made it but I did 😄
Good job!!
This was my first clear after the credits. Ngl was dissapointed to not go there after clearing
how long does it take to get the spear infernal arms
like i think im doing the story between achilles and his lover rn and idk how long its gonna take to cycle to him mentioning the spearn
The conversations you have with people are almost totally random
Have you fulfilled the requirements for the conversation you're going for?
yes
Well... good luck i guess
any strats for defeating ||theseus|| and the ||minotaur||?
@burnt dirge ||focus the minotaur first because theseus is wimpy in his first phase||
||whenever theseus throws a spear at you and retrieves it he walks away from you which gives you the opportunity to land shots on his back||
i mean, i burned through all of my death defiances trying to fight them. ty btw
||during theseus' initial second stage where he summons the gods he doesnt raise his shield or anything he just stands there, if you have good damage output you can land a solid set of hits||
||finally aoe damage such as the rail's special or festive fog (dionysus' cast) works well when theseus is facing you||
aoe?
like when you throw it and it has an area it does damage in
ohk ty
ultimately just take your time because other than when ||asterius charges at you|| you dictate the pace of combat
depending on your build
Hi idk if anyone could help me with my game Hades, my saves doesn't work and i don't know what to do 😅
elaborate
Have you read the information in #h1-tech-fixes
I will my bad I didnt see the chanel
Sorry!
Just beat the stupid hydra from the trailer first try, should i try inferno mode?
Hell mode requires a new save
See how you deal with the third boss first
Third boss is the first real wall for a lot of people
He destroyed me
Im sure i'll be able to tell when i see it
