h1-for-new-players

[swift pasture]

Yes

[viscid notch]

doesnt it remove quick reload aswell

[gray haven]

And your Cast won't be a priority anyway. Stygian Soul is convenient for applying Boiling Blood to bosses without having to go out of your way to pick up your ammo.

[swift pasture]

^

[sudden brook]

here goes

[swift pasture]

I got my first clear with Chiron, so you're in good hands with it

[viscid notch]

goodluck

[sudden brook]

so after I get heartbreak and flourish

what do I go for'

[swift pasture]

Flourish as in Dio special?

[gray haven]

Yes.

[sudden brook]

diyonysus room :D

3rd room

lets see

[swift pasture]

His duo with Aphrodite if possible, otherwise just stuff that improves weak/hangover

Plus pressure points from Artemis for crits if she shows

[gray haven]

Divine Dash, Tidal Dash, Zeus' Aid for maybe unlocking Smoldering Air. But you're best off just taking the Evergreen Acorn keepsake in Elysium and for the rest of the run.

Will help a lot in those boss fights.

[sudden brook]

nope

no drunken flourish

drunken dash though?

[viscid notch]

rip

[gray haven]

What are the offers?

No, not Drunken Dash.

[arctic geode]

im finding it really hard to progress without specific powers its actually insane

[sudden brook]

dash, vintage, afterparty

[viscid notch]

premium vintage? Strong drink?

[gray haven]

Definitely not that, you want to keep your Dash slot open for better options.

[arctic geode]

i ended up fishing for the right weapon upgrades and i fi dont i just kill myself

[gray haven]

Premium Vintage is good.

[sudden brook]

alright, onwards

[gray haven]

Their Duo Boon Low Tolerance doesn't really matter if his Chiron is Lv.2. He only has 5 arrows in the Volley anyway.

[swift pasture]

True

The Ares duo would be better

Since you can get it with his revenge boon

[gray haven]

Duo Boons aren't really a priority.

[glass jetty]

Depends on build though

[gray haven]

Especially without Dark Foresight and Fated Persuasion, no point in trying too hard.

Yes, m talking about this particular run.

[sudden brook]

daedalus hammer

triple shot, twin shot or perfect shot

all attack buffs

[gray haven]

Twin Shot.

[swift pasture]

True, just some of the useful boons that I can think of

Twin or triple

[sudden brook]

demeter

dash, nourished soul or ravenous will

[gray haven]

Nourished Soul will help a lot since you're new.

I'd take Ravenous Will, personally, but you probably wouldn't get the most out of it anyway. Nourished Soul is nice.

[sudden brook]

im really not getting what I need from this lol

[gray haven]

It's alright. Twin Shot with Heartbreak Strike can do a lot of work on its own.

[swift pasture]

Hey, I've had some of my best builds from just letting rng go wild

[gray haven]

Nourished Soul is very nice and an early Premium Vintage is also very nice.

[swift pasture]

^

Strong drink too

[gray haven]

You'll get Drunken Flourish in Asphodel.

[sudden brook]

some good chaos boons

[gray haven]

What are the options? You can upload screenshots to imgur by the way and link them here.

[swift pasture]

Anything for damage, plus making coins worth more is useful for shops

[sudden brook]

inferno bomb for attack up
damage taken for 15% chance for rare boons
trap damage for HP up

[swift pasture]

More health is also nice

Oh, dang, all nice picks

[sudden brook]

I mean the hp one up is epic

[gray haven]

Take #3, that's the easiest to deal with.

[swift pasture]

Are they all 3 encounters long?

[sudden brook]

its worth 76 hp

yes

or no

[gray haven]

Yeah, definitely get the +76 HP.

[sudden brook]

just the hp one

[swift pasture]

Yeah, that's probably the best bet

[sudden brook]

a zeus boon

interesting

[arctic geode]

what keepsakes should a new player use

[gray haven]

Skip that if you can.

[arctic geode]

im just using the gold and extra life

[gray haven]

Oh wait, you already have Lord Dionysus in your pool. Yeah, it's fine. You can take grab that.

See if he offers Zeus' Aid.

[swift pasture]

Have you given everyone you can nectar?

[sudden brook]

cast, dash or lightning reflexes

[gray haven]

Cast.

[swift pasture]

Cast or dash

[gray haven]

No, not Dash.

Cast.

[swift pasture]

On a bow? You're not getting up close to things

[arctic geode]

everyone i met kinda

[sudden brook]

another demeter

[misty ridge]

good ones for new players are Cerberus, Skelly & Eurydice

[gray haven]

Yes, on a bow.

[sudden brook]

cast, ravenous will or rare crop

[misty ridge]

also, rusty

[swift pasture]

Rare crop

[sudden brook]

mhm?

[gray haven]

Take Ravenous Will for sure here.

[misty ridge]

did you not pay attention earlier when I said ||that name is a spoiler in this channel||

[sudden brook]

oh yeah sorry

[misty ridge]

please use the tags

[swift pasture]

Alright, since you know more then I do, what makes it a good choice?

oh

wrong reply

oops

I meant to reply to Nya

[arctic geode]

does poseidon have some hidden strength im not seeing

[misty ridge]

he's good at clearing rooms

[arctic geode]

do knockbacks do something? besides the obvious

[misty ridge]

not so much at finishing bosses

[gray haven]

You can clear the game with his Dash alone.

[swift pasture]

^^^^

[sudden brook]

alecto again

fml

[swift pasture]

Plus knocking things into walls does extra damage

[misty ridge]

there's some t2 boons that makes his knockback epic

[misty ridge]

only with the t2 boon tho

[gray haven]

Zeus' Aid if he has Heartbreak Strike unlocks Smoldering Air, which is one of the very best boons in the game, and Zeus' Aid has very high DPS on its own already.

[sudden brook]

nevermind heartbreak strike is wrecking her

[swift pasture]

Nah, wall slams in general do damage

[misty ridge]

hmm, guess they never get to that point for me then

I mostly use poseidon for rupture or sea storm

or both

[sudden brook]

i wonder

since I have zeus dash

[gray haven]

The vast majority of speedruns have Tidal Dash + some tier 2 boons from him.

[sudden brook]

should I maybe go for zeus in asphodel

[swift pasture]

So you want it on a bow to act as a shield if something gets close?

[sudden brook]

or still go for drunk flourish

[gray haven]

Take the Overflowing Cup and get Drunken Flourish.

Yes.

[sudden brook]

should I purge the zeus dash?

to make sure I dont get his duo boon

[misty ridge]

you can have multiple duos

[gray haven]

No, keep it.

[swift pasture]

Keep it, it's better to have a decent dash then nothing

[sudden brook]

300 health after tartarus

alright, dio boon

lets see

[gray haven]

When you have Drunken Flourish, the goal is to basically just Dash-Strike > Special any enemy and then do the same to the next enemy while your Hangover does its thing.

So you're just spreading Hangover.

Of course, you can kill off enemies with your Attack, too, if you have the opportunity.

[sudden brook]

nope

[gray haven]

What are the options?

[sudden brook]

cast, positive outlook or afterparty

[gray haven]

Cast.

[swift pasture]

I'd go after party

[gray haven]

No.

Cast will give you a 90% chance to see Drunken Flourish on your next Lord Dionysus boon.

[arctic geode]

OMFG

[swift pasture]

Wait, really?

[gray haven]

10% to get an exchange instead.

[arctic geode]

MAX VINTAGE INCREASES MAX HP

i thought it just healed

omfg

[sudden brook]

another zeus boon

lets see

[gray haven]

Get Zeus' Aid or Static Discharge if possible.

[gray haven]

Attack, Special, Cast, and Dash are priority boons. You'll always be offered at least one of them. There's a 10% chance that offer is an exchange.

So if you have 3/4 of them filled, there's a 90% you're offered the last remaining priority boon.

[sudden brook]

special, static discharge or double strike

[swift pasture]

ahhh, so removing one of them from the pool opens up another slot

[gray haven]

Static Discharge.

[swift pasture]

^^^^^^

[sudden brook]

ayy a dio boon

this is it

i can feel it

[gray haven]

Well.

Now you're just asking for it to be an exchange instead lol.

[sudden brook]

finally

and its even heroic

[swift pasture]

Nice

[sudden brook]

should I pour my poms into that or heartbreak?

[gray haven]

Heroic? Wait. Did you take another Special before that?

[sudden brook]

im just kidding it was epic

[gray haven]

Ah.

[sudden brook]

would have been cool though lol

[gray haven]

Heroic can only be offered as an exchange lol.

[sudden brook]

so whats the strat from here?

[gray haven]

Poms should go into Drunken Flourish and Static Discharge.

[swift pasture]

And if those aren't options, pomming your attack isn't bad

[gray haven]

Indeed.

Strategy is taking the Evergreen Acorn for Elysium until the end and hopefully get good boons from Lord Hermes and a good hammer.

Maybe a good Call.

[sudden brook]

hydra time

[gray haven]

Just take your time and play it safe.

[sudden brook]

I have more than 350 health - ill be good

[swift pasture]

You've got Aphrodite and ||Demeter|| in the pool, so both of their calls are nice picks

[gray haven]

Zeus' Aid, Aphrodite's Aid, and ||Demeter's|| Aid are all fine.

Dionysus' Aid has anti-synergy with your Drunken Flourish because your Hangover from your Special can override your Call.

[swift pasture]

Might want to spoiler one of those, Nya, this is the new players' channel.

And yes, everything she said

[sudden brook]

hydra down

[swift pasture]

That was pretty fast, good job

[sudden brook]

acorn now right?

[grave mist]

Aphrodite's aid and ||Demeter's Aid|| are easier to land on the final boss without taking damage

[swift pasture]

Yeah

[sudden brook]

lmfao

with all my health boons

[gray haven]

Yes, Evergreen Acorn now.

[sudden brook]

the fountain took me from 145 to 330

[gray haven]

Any Call gives i-frames on activation.

Zeus' Aid does a whole lot more damage over a run than Demeter's Aid or Aphrodite's Aid.

Aphrodite's Aid has nice burst damage at max.

[sudden brook]

what hammers am I looking for

[gray haven]

Demeter's Aid is just nice for the Chill, the damage isn't worth mentioning.

Errr...

Piercing Volley, Perfect Shot.

[sudden brook]

point blank shot, chain shot or concentrated volley

[swift pasture]

CV

[gray haven]

Hmmm.

[sudden brook]

weakness spread or single target

hmm

[gray haven]

Chain Shot will actually do something.

[swift pasture]

Chain shot isn't bad but not amazing, point blank forces you to stay up close, but concentrated buffs your special

[gray haven]

Concentrated is very poor with Lv.2 Chiron and Drunken Flourish.

[sudden brook]

so chain shot?

[swift pasture]

True, but it's still something

Point blank is probably the only one you don't want, since it's risky

[gray haven]

I'd take Point-Blank Shot, but Chain Shot, yeah.

[swift pasture]

Yeah, chain shot

Will spread weak around

[gray haven]

I was thinking more for the damage, but that's a nice side effect, yeah.

[sudden brook]

hermes boon

hyper sprint, auto reload or greater evasion

[gray haven]

Hyper Sprint.

[swift pasture]

^

Probably one of his best boons

[sudden brook]

chaos boon

[arctic geode]

lol

i just kipped hyper sprint

are u srs

[sudden brook]

top two are damage on attack and special

so big no no

[swift pasture]

Which leaves?

[arctic geode]

i took quick recovery

[sudden brook]

bottom is hidden previews for dash strike

[gray haven]

Take #3.

[swift pasture]

That could be risky, hm

Yeah, just be careful and know you might run into a miniboss without warning

[sudden brook]

the top two give cast damage and more rescources

so nah

#3

[gray haven]

Miniboss would be good.

[sudden brook]

aaand its a miniboss

[gray haven]

More predictable than normal encounters.

[swift pasture]

I mean, true, but it could catch them off guard at first

[gray haven]

You'll be fine.

[swift pasture]

Is it Asterius?

[sudden brook]

its a dio boon

[gray haven]

Greatest Reflex is probably the best boon in the game, and Hyper Sprint is right below that.

[sudden brook]

numbing sensation, high tolerance, positive outlook

[grave mist]

The damage reduction and health recovery are basically equivalent, but the damage reduction is easy to use and protects from many hits while health recovery is trickier to use and only works on one hit.

[gray haven]

Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery is probably the best boon combo in the game.

[swift pasture]

Eh, pressure points is also high up

[gray haven]

Umm.

Not even close.

[sudden brook]

so uh

which boon

[gray haven]

It's not even in the conversation.

[swift pasture]

PO

[arctic geode]

is athenas call good

xd

[gray haven]

Numbing Sensation will help you the most.

[swift pasture]

And seriously? It's universal crits

[arctic geode]

i wanna sell it

[gray haven]

Yes.

[swift pasture]

Athena's call is very good

[grave mist]

Yes, just be aware that unlike other calls you have to make the damage happen

[arctic geode]

yeah i noticed

[gray haven]

It's a 2% crit chance, your DPS will barely go up at all.

[grave mist]

It's not uncommon to be able to out damage a greater call with that invulnerability.

[swift pasture]

Fair, but it's still nice to have

[sudden brook]

greatest reflex :D

or rush delivery

[gray haven]

Rush Delivery.

[sudden brook]

which one

boss time

or almost

[gray haven]

Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery will give you global damage bonus as soon as you dash and for as long as Hyper Sprint gives you bonus movement speed, which ends up being practically all the time.

[sudden brook]

demeter call

yay

[gray haven]

Sounds good. Don't wait for Greater Call, just drop it as soon as you can to apply Chill.

I hope the radio silence is a good sign.

[arctic geode]

how does fated persuasion work

do i get 1 reroll every time

or 1 per run

seems quite expensive

[misty ridge]

you get 1 dice pr run

[arctic geode]

jesus

[misty ridge]

until you get higher lvl persuasion

and you can get an upgrade in the uhm.. the contractor

that makes it so every key room reward gives an extra dice

it is worth it

[dense berry]

it's the best out of those contracts

[misty ridge]

it could be twice as expensive & I'd still consider it worth it

[dense berry]

||i always pick keys over any other meta reward room because Fated Dice are just great||

[misty ridge]

the dice can save your run if you need 1 specific boon

or if you have to purge & need better option

[dense berry]

FP is kinda a lot better than FA

at least imo

[gray haven]

It is.

[misty ridge]

agreed

I've only used FA once

and that 1 time too many

[dense berry]

i used it once for prophecy ye

[viscid notch]

FA for boonless runs

[arctic geode]

i got my first

broken build

all i ahve to do is spam special

[misty ridge]

Fun

[grave mist]

Is it rail?

[arctic geode]

some dumb crit build i made by accident

how do i unlock the last aspect

i feel like i should have unlocked it by now

[balmy stump]

For which weapon

[arctic geode]

the first weapon

[balmy stump]

Sword??

||nyx||

[arctic geode]

yeah

[balmy stump]

Also all hidden aspects are in #h1-story-discussion pins if you scroll down a bit

But yea it comes from ||nyx||

[neat light]

how many bosses are there in total

i got to the third one but cant get past

[misty ridge]

Uhm

Well

Depends

[dusk cove]

||4 main bosses||

[misty ridge]

There’s ||3|| + ||1/7?|| + 2 + ||1||

Then there’s the mini bosses

And the Styx mini bosses

And if you just count each area as 1 boss then there’s ||4||

[dusk cove]

3 + 1/7? + 2 + 1

[misty ridge]

Oi

[dusk cove]

this high iq equation though

like

[misty ridge]

I hid that for a reason

[dusk cove]

made me lol

[misty ridge]

Why did you not use the spoiler tags

Why

[dusk cove]

come on nobody will understand that

[misty ridge]

I didn’t want to spoil it

[dusk cove]

even I didn't understand what you actually meant there

so

[misty ridge]

...

[dusk cove]

[misty ridge]

||3 sisters + 1/7 hydra heads + 2 heroes + 1 end boss|| -_-

[dusk cove]

||can't believe you counted each head as a seperate boss||

[misty ridge]

||They have different abilities!!||

[dusk cove]

hahahah

damn you kinda made my night that's good

[misty ridge]

That’s why the boss question isn’t always straight forward

It depends on how you look at it

[dusk cove]

yes well you are right

but it was still funny tho

[misty ridge]

[gray haven]

What about ||the different combination of Furies||?

[misty ridge]

Well, ||technically that still falls under the 3, cuz it’s still just 1 main sister with the other 2 assisting, but I guess it could be 3(+/- 9)||

[dusk cove]

[misty ridge]

Meaning the final would be ||3(+/-9) + 1/7? + 2 + 1||

[gray haven]

I see.

Thank you. Very enlightening. 💕

[misty ridge]

That is ofc so long as you don’t go into ||em4 & start counting mini bosses as 0.5, in which case I’m at a loss as I’ve yet to do em4||

[dusk cove]

I want an equation with all the mini bosses included

[misty ridge]

Guh

Ask one of the ones that’s done that then

[gray haven]

Be the equation you want to see in the world.

[misty ridge]

[dusk cove]

[balmy stump]

hehe 1/7 heads

lernie only has like 4-5 alts i think

spitter, slammer, spawner, fire boy, and wave boy

[balmy stump]

well theres 2 minibosses per area not including styx which has 5 i believe

and if they are being counted as 0.5

12 minibosses since 3 in tart, 2 in asphodel and elysium, and 5 in styx

3 furies, 5 hydra alts, champions, and final

around 16 ig

[misty ridge]

There’s a reason I added a ?

I’m used to a 7 headed hydra

From stories

[balmy stump]

if you wanna count ||em4|| tho that makes an extra 4 bosses not including fury combos since that too much

so like 20

[misty ridge]

And it’s a bit too late to remember how many Lernean has in here

[balmy stump]

20 bosses

[balmy stump]

4 phase and a 7 phase

so like :/

he has 7 heads

[misty ridge]

The minis only count if it’s in ||em4||

[misty ridge]

So I was right! Yay

Not for powers, but how many you face at the same time

[balmy stump]

thats...

not really 7 bosses

just 1 boss with minions

[misty ridge]

No, but it’s the same boss

So 1/7

[balmy stump]

:/

idk where youre getting these from

[misty ridge]

The heads all belong to the same body

[balmy stump]

so 1 boss

same body = 1 entity

[misty ridge]

Yes, but 7 heads

[balmy stump]

so 1 boss

but still 1 boss

[gray haven]

Shadow is right.

🔫

[balmy stump]

._.

im trying to keep fractions out of this for a reason since it doesnt make much sense imo ;w;

[misty ridge]

If you look at my frankenequation you’ll see the ||furies|| get weird too

||3(+/-9)||

[balmy stump]

each fury has 4 versions if em4

[misty ridge]

And like I said idk ||em4||

[balmy stump]

if including em4 that is

[misty ridge]

It’s just a fun thing

[gray haven]

Well, you clearly just don't understand higher mathematics, then. Shadow's math is perfectly correct.

[balmy stump]

since 1 extra, the other extra, both, and non em

[balmy stump]

:/

[misty ridge]

And we don’t mention ||em4|| outside spoiler tags >.>

Not in here

[gray haven]

You just did.

[balmy stump]

so like 12 furry things + 10 hydra things with alts and em + 2 champion versions + 2 final versions + minibosses

[misty ridge]

Yes, sorry
Hidden now

I should go sleep

[balmy stump]

which tart has 3, asphodel 2, elysium 2, and styx 5

[misty ridge]

It’s nearly 2 am

[balmy stump]

:o youre going to bed early??

[misty ridge]

Ye, I was up until 8:30

[gray haven]

It's indeed nearly 2 a.m.

[misty ridge]

Couldn’t sleep last night

[balmy stump]

ahh

might pull an all nighter since i dont have to be up for school until 9 so :3

[misty ridge]

Well, have fun trying to make sense of frankenequations

[balmy stump]

i-

i just made sense of it

12 furies, 10 hydras, 2 champions, 2 finals, 12 minibosses

[misty ridge]

Neat

[balmy stump]

just add that :/

[misty ridge]

Ooh

38

[balmy stump]

:3

[misty ridge]

Now we know the answer if someone asks again

[balmy stump]

still confused where you got the 1/7 from ;w;

since its 1 boss

[misty ridge]

I’ll explain in dm

[balmy stump]

ok

[sudden brook]

I finished theseus and the minotaur, but then I had to go

Ill finish the run later

I didnt lose at least

[gray haven]

Nice!

[leaden whale]

The owner of a game store i go to

Has one single copy of hades left in the back and im getting it😄

[misty ridge]

neat

I got my physical copy in the mail yesterday

[leaden whale]

Ive been going their since i was 5

[misty ridge]

cool

[leaden whale]

Where did u get urs

[misty ridge]

online retailer

[leaden whale]

Looks hard to find on amazon

[misty ridge]

didn't use amazon

[leaden whale]

What do u use

[misty ridge]

used local online retailer

[leaden whale]

Oh

Local retailers are fun

I got mario kart double dash for 20 once. Amazing

[misty ridge]

local as in around these countries

[leaden whale]

I was talking in my city

[misty ridge]

yes, I wasn't
EU

[leaden whale]

Netherlands?

[misty ridge]

no

the retailer is from Denmark, but I'm in Norway

[leaden whale]

I always guess netherlands when someone says they are from eu haha

Im from canada

[misty ridge]

cool

anyways, I be leaving chat again

bbai~ 
hope you enjoy the game when you get it

[strange frost]

DAMN. I lost to Theseus and the Bull of Minos. I want a rematch 😠

[leaden whale]

i usually get the bull first since its easier for me

[leaden whale]

Hello, I made a total of 10 runs through the Underworld and noticed that boses started changing their behaviour, they have become harder, like in Tartarus I`m met by Megs sister, Hydra in Asfodel now fights differently. Why does it happen? I just got used to them D:

[dense laurel]

They have randomized bosses

[leaden whale]

😟

So it`s not connected to amount of runs? Pure random?

[strange frost]

Hades is not an easy game haha

[leaden whale]

Ye I see xd

[strange frost]

I think it becomes randomized after a certain number of runs?

[leaden whale]

maybe

And actually I have one more question, how do I use ancient blood?

I mean I`ve unlocked all the weapons and what am I supposed to do now?

[weak lotus]

just wait

it should pop up when you next return to the house

and dont worry the bosses dont have that much difference tbh

[leaden whale]

Ye, but killerss torturer got my ass whooped

[weak lotus]

?

sorry idk what youre talking about

[leaden whale]

I was once met by this megs sister

[weak lotus]

ah wait

tisiphone?

[leaden whale]

I was told then she is responsible for torturing killers

idk I didnt see her name

[weak lotus]

i mean for her

[leaden whale]

ye, it`s she, I just googled

[weak lotus]

its kinda difficult at first

[leaden whale]

yea xd

[weak lotus]

but her patterns are similar to meg

so shouldnt be too much of a problem

[leaden whale]

Hope so, thanks!

[weak lotus]

if you need any advice just ask here

[thorn marsh]

murrr

one of the most hilarious last words

[sudden brook]

@gray haven my game crashed while my pc was in sleep mode

I lost the progress

a shame, I probably wont find someone that's willing to go that in depth again

so uh

can anyone recommend a good spear build?

[maiden ruin]

achilles, zeus, and rapid jab

somebody also said that artemis is good too

[sudden brook]

so I take zeus from tartatus?

[maiden ruin]

if you like zeus more than artemis then yes

[sudden brook]

so I keep his keepsake with me until asphodel Im guessing

[maiden ruin]

no

thats not how it works

[sudden brook]

so basically I start with zeus

[maiden ruin]

yes

then take off his keepsake

[sudden brook]

attack, dash or cast

this is an attack build right?

[maiden ruin]

attack

yes

[sudden brook]

what are the core boons I'm looking for, and which keepsakes do I use for the next levels

[maiden ruin]

attack, jolted, storm lightning, and legendary

[sudden brook]

secondary god/boons from other gods I should get?

[maiden ruin]

have you escaped yet?

[sudden brook]

nope

[maiden ruin]

then no

[sudden brook]

I have ||demeter|| unlocked though

if thats why you were asking

[maiden ruin]

oh yes

grab her

||i thought you had to escape to get demeter||

[weak lotus]

nah

[maiden ruin]

hm

[weak lotus]

reached the surface only

[maiden ruin]

ok

[sudden brook]

just reach the surface

yes

[weak lotus]

not beat ||dad||

[maiden ruin]

cool

grab cold fusion

[sudden brook]

so duo boon?

[maiden ruin]

yep

[weak lotus]

if you get flurry jab you wont need it tbh

[maiden ruin]

jolted and dem special

it is still good to have

just in case you dont get it

[weak lotus]

yea guess so

[sudden brook]

so I take ||demeter|| keepsake for asphodel?

[maiden ruin]

yes

[sudden brook]

ayyy flurry jab

[maiden ruin]

and get privileged status

the mirror upgrade

[sudden brook]

I did

[maiden ruin]

good

thats pretty much it

make sure that enemies always have both curses on them

jolted and cold

[sudden brook]

afterparty, strong drink or trippy shot

[maiden ruin]

strong drink

[weak lotus]

strong drink

[sudden brook]

sorry by the way

[weak lotus]

afterparty is only good on like epic or smth

[sudden brook]

I probably shouldn't be asking this much

[maiden ruin]

nah its cool

thats what this channel is for

[sudden brook]

hmm

dio, charon or chaos

[weak lotus]

dont feel bad for asking lmao

[sudden brook]

tough

[maiden ruin]

chaos

oh wait

charon

[weak lotus]

i found out about some of my fave things to use from here

[weak lotus]

how many obol do you have

[sudden brook]

250

[maiden ruin]

yeah

[sudden brook]

there was a random boon

[weak lotus]

yea go charon

[sudden brook]

got aphrodite

im going life affrim

[maiden ruin]

yeah

[weak lotus]

yea thats a good one

[sudden brook]

instead of cast or special

[maiden ruin]

yeah

[weak lotus]

aphro cast is so bad lmalo

[maiden ruin]

nah

[weak lotus]

unless you go talos or smth

[maiden ruin]

it is great

[sudden brook]

bruh I'm one obol short of buying an HP upgrade

got one in the next room though lmao

[weak lotus]

the range is so bad i just dont bother with it tbh

[sudden brook]

and its a fountain room - so I get bonus dps from strong drink

[weak lotus]

nice

[sudden brook]

so now I have a choice

HP or poseidon

pos + zeus have a nice duo boon

but ||demeter||

so idk

[weak lotus]

i dont think you should be going sea storm rn

since you are using zeus attack already

pos zeus is really good for pos build but not the other way around imo

[gray haven]

Next time something like this happens, there are steps to retrieve your temp save in #h1-tech-fixes.

[sudden brook]

ah

but its alright

thanks for the help yesterday anyway

[gray haven]

Sure thing.

[sudden brook]

I was worried about this build's single target dps

but it seems to be doing the trick

tisiphone is melting decently fast

[gray haven]

What aspect are you using now?

[sudden brook]

achilles

zeus flurry strike

[gray haven]

Oh nice.

[sudden brook]

got some nice boons on floor one

and didnt lose too much hp on tisiphone

[gray haven]

What boons do you have?

[sudden brook]

zeus attack, strong drink, bronze skin

and flurry jab hammer

oh, and life affirmation

[gray haven]

Hmm. Take the Owl Pendant to hopefully get Divine Dash.

For Asphodel.

[sudden brook]

alright

was gonna go demeter for the duo boon but eh

[gray haven]

It's not that strong, and you already have 4 gods, that will clutter your pool.

Best Duo Boon you can get right now is Smoldering Air.

[sudden brook]

smoldering air?

[gray haven]

Lady Aphrodite and Lord Zeus.

[sudden brook]

also I forgot I already swapped my keepsake to demeter

sorry

cant change it twice

[gray haven]

Ah lol it can't be helped then, let's make the best of it.

[sudden brook]

I got a dem boon

cast, dash or another cast?

im guessing dash since this is a phys build

[gray haven]

Phys?

[sudden brook]

physical

[gray haven]

Hmmm. I guess you can try Mistral Dash, might as well go all in since you're already committed to her.

[sudden brook]

then I guess I'm looking for jolted and the duo boon

to proc the two curse damage multiplier

ah, an athena demeter duo room

may get divine dash after all

[gray haven]

Unlikely since you already have a dash.

[sudden brook]

yep, the options are call, cast or revenge damage

[gray haven]

Cold Fusion won't really matter since you attack so fast anyway. If you get Static Discharge, you'll be constantly reapplying Jolted anyway.

Take the Call.

[sudden brook]

should not have gone athena

demeter battle is tough

[gray haven]

You'll need any Call, any core boon from Lord Zeus (which you already have with Lightning Strike), and any core boon from Lady Aphrodite for Smoldering Air. That's what we're looking for now.

Stay away from the large circles, and just play it safe. No need to rush.

[sudden brook]

but anyway, I got cast, snow burst and frozen touch

demeter

frozen touch

since I wont be casting

[gray haven]

Sure.

[sudden brook]

ayy an aphrodite boon

[gray haven]

Get Heartbreak Flourish or Crush Shot, either one.

[sudden brook]

got crush shot

so now hope and pray for the duo boon?

[gray haven]

Hmm yeah #1 priority now are Static Discharge for the DPS and Smoldering Air.

Cold Fusion is unnecessary but obviously we'll take it, too, if we see it, but Static Discharge is just really really good on its own.

[sudden brook]

static discharge from charon's shop

lesgo

also unrelated question but why do you use punctuation?

thats pretty rare on discord

[gray haven]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal viper]

nya in this chat, i must be dreaming

[sudden brook]

this build shreds hydra

[gray haven]

Flurry Jab tends to do that.

[sudden brook]

so do I take aphrodite's keepsake for elysium

[gray haven]

How confident are you in the Theseus & Asterius fight without a DD?

[sudden brook]

not at all lol

[gray haven]

Er, without losing a DD* lol.

[sudden brook]

that too

[gray haven]

How did you do the other day vs them with Acorn?

[weak lotus]

how much dd do you have rn

[misty ridge]

Another reminder that ||Demeter|| is a spoiler in this channel, so please hide the name

[sudden brook]

I only lost one, compared to 2-3 of them usually

[sudden brook]

3

[gray haven]

Take Acorn then.

We're still hoping for Smoldering Air, but banking on a Duo Boon without Fated Persuasion is gambling. Acorn just works, and you have good DPS. No need to take risks.

You should put pretty much all your poms into Static Discharge now, by the way.

[gray haven]

Hey, I've written more messages in this channel than you have.

[sudden brook]

stubborn roots

[gray haven]

What are the other offers?

[sudden brook]

or nourished soul

or frost flourish

I mean, I'm thinking stubborn just for the sake of the prophecy

[gray haven]

Frost Flourish is nice. Better odds for getting Duo Boons because you'll have your priority slots filled.

Oooh.

Yeah, for the prophecy then, let's take it.

[sudden brook]

ono

asterius miniboss

[gray haven]

You'll do fine.

If he charges at you, stay close to the walls and just dash away at the last moment. He'll crash into the wall.

[sudden brook]

Ik his patterns pretty well

theseus is the main problem in the duo fighgt

[gray haven]

More reliable than trying to dash through a pillar.

[normal viper]

i mean, ive only been here for like a quarter of the time you have

[gray haven]

Although that can work.

You've written a whole 6,307 messages in the server, though, compared to my only 47,501.

[weak lotus]

"only"

[normal viper]

one of the main reasons im not as active here, is because this server contains mostly americans

so its dead during the time im awake

[sudden brook]

at the boss fight, one DD stack down and no aphrodite boon

this may be it

[gray haven]

You'll do okay.

Remember to empty-dash if Theseus does the spin.

Dash-Strikes don't have i-frames.

[weak lotus]

dont panic too much

for the first phase just target asterius and pay attention to the target mark

you should be fine if you do that

[sudden brook]

got asterius down

didnt lose a DD stack

at half hp

theseus is a pain

with his shield

[gray haven]

Tbh I'd just focus down Theseus first and take down Asterius along with him because he stays close anyway. They can't win the DPS race anyway if you have good DPS.

Just keep dashing behind him whenever he turns around and stick close to him. All you'll really have to worry about when you're close is the spin, and it's very telegraphed.

If he's throwing the spear, just get behind a pillar and wait.

[sudden brook]

well uh

I got out with one dd stack

which means I only lost one

[gray haven]

That's alright. Keep Acorn on.

After he phases, just attack him immediately until he's dead since he won't have his shield up during the initial call.

Check the Well of Charon.

[sudden brook]

I can buy kiss of styx

if I give up some non-core boons

[gray haven]

What can you purge?

[sudden brook]

or nvm I'd have to give up my call, dash and life affrim

[gray haven]

You'd need to purge all three?

[sudden brook]

yep

[gray haven]

Yeah nevermind then.

1 DD is good enough, you do have Acorn.

[sudden brook]

no aphrodite boon, in the shop or in the rooms

[gray haven]

What are the tunnels?

And which ones are minibosses?

[sudden brook]

dio(mb), HP up(mb), demeter, hermes and pom

[gray haven]

Let's get the Centaur Heart first.

That's +50 HP.

And minibosses are both faster and generally easier than normal chambers in Styx.

Might be scary at first, but you get used to the minibosses very quickly, and then it's just a very predictable fight.

[sudden brook]

I got cold fusion

(started demeter before you said)

[gray haven]

Ah lol.

That's nice, though.

Centaur Heart then.

[sudden brook]

yes, and then?

[gray haven]

If you don't have the sack after that, go for Lord Hermes to hopefully get something good. But when you have the sack, just go shopping and then straight to the final boss.

[sudden brook]

well there goes my last dd stack

an enemy was bodyblocking the cure fountain

ima just dodge around and wait for that one duo boon to regen my hp

[gray haven]

You still have a good shot, no worries.

[sudden brook]

im in a place where the snek crystal cant reach me

I'll wait for max

just to be on the safe side :)

[gray haven]

Stubborn Roots coming in clutch, the Fates were onto something, after all.

[sudden brook]

lord hermes

greater haste, greatest reflex or second wind

[gray haven]

Greatest Reflex.

Perfect. That should make things a whole lot easier.

[sudden brook]

still no sack though

its miniboss dio or a pom

[gray haven]

What's in the shop?

[sudden brook]

athena boon, centaur heart, titan blood, daedalus anvil and two 2-level poms

[weak lotus]

might want athena for extra DD

[sudden brook]

found the sack

and I have 345 gold to spend

[gray haven]

Can't.

[sudden brook]

if I do another room, I can get a pom and athena

[gray haven]

Athena's Aid doesn't unlock Last Stand or Deathless Stand.

[weak lotus]

ah

thats a shame

[gray haven]

Don't take another tunnel.

[weak lotus]

yea dont risk it

[gray haven]

Just buy the Centaur Heart.

And I guess Lady Athena's boon.

[sudden brook]

I got athena and aphrodite's duo boon

3 duos in one run

[gray haven]

That works.

[sudden brook]

alright

||hades|| time

[gray haven]

Spoiler-tag time.

[sudden brook]

still full

and I still have an acorn charge

||first phase 50%hp||

[gray haven]

Sounds good.

Remember during the 360 beams, you can stand right on top of the boss without taking any damage.

Go get 'em!

If you panic at all, press pause and collect yourself.

And just think about your next move.

[sudden brook]

||second phase time||

deep breaths

[misty ridge]

that's a spoiler too

[sudden brook]

still at decent hp from stubborn roots

[weak lotus]

lmao

since you have roots just take ur time

dont panic and start attacking recklessly

[sudden brook]

stubborn roots will passively regen me during the lasers

which is great

[weak lotus]

yea it really helps

[sudden brook]

ok

||second phase 75%||

im at 200 hp

going well

[weak lotus]

youre close

[sudden brook]

starting to get shaky though

[weak lotus]

just go on a steady pace

[sudden brook]

gonna go grab some water

[weak lotus]

yea calm down

its ur first run so dont worry about time and stuff

[gray haven]

@sudden brook and spoiler-tag ||the second phase||.

[dense berry]

both times you mentioned it

[misty ridge]

mhmm

[sudden brook]

50%

havent taken another hit since 75

[grave mist]

Aww yeah @sudden brook back in the fray!

[dense berry]

maybe spoiler tag this too, juust in case

[sudden brook]

25%!!!

[dense berry]

!!

[sudden brook]

10%

[gray haven]

!!!!11!!11!!1!!!leleventyone!11!!!!

[dense berry]

1%!!!!!1!111!1!%%!1!1!

[sudden brook]

:)

||dad has fallen||

[dense berry]

yey

[gray haven]

Congratulations!

[brisk kelp]

dub

[weak lotus]

congrats!

[misty ridge]

[sudden brook]

this music

its amazing

||greece theme||

[grave mist]

Did you get a screenshot for #h1-victory-boasting ?

[weak lotus]

yea i played it on loop for a while lmao

[sudden brook]

I forgot

[dense berry]

noo

it' sokay

good job!!

[sudden brook]

there's about an elepant's worth of adrenaline pumping through me rn

lol

[weak lotus]

you can always look at it in administrative chamber

[sudden brook]

and this relaxing music is draining it back out

I forgot how satisfying beating a game could be

[dense berry]

can you even unlock admin chamber already?

i had it after quite a few clears

[weak lotus]

i unlocked before clearing

[grave mist]

Yeah, you get it after the dream sequence on like run 25 or something

[dense berry]

huh okay

[sudden brook]

I did

||also this ending man||

[dense berry]

i never saw this one before

[gray haven]

[dense berry]

i love it

[gray haven]

Well, that is certainly a spoiler in this channel.

[dense berry]

is that spoilers nyaanyaa i mean you can easily see it if you just click on someone's proflie i guess

[sudden brook]

wait what

||the styx took me||

[weak lotus]

the hades discord statuses deals with spoilers nicely imo

[gray haven]

It's after the end boss, so yes.

[sudden brook]

||I'm nack||

[dense berry]

yeah that's why i sent it still raccoon

[weak lotus]

haha yea rusty

[dense berry]

||hi nack, you're not finished with the game :>||

[weak lotus]

||the grind is never over||

now you can move to #h1-discussion

congrats

[dense berry]

i mean you can stay here still if you wanna avoid some spoilers

just make sure to send spoiler tags

[weak lotus]

i guess so

[gray haven]

There can still be spoilers in the other channels, yeah.

With that done, time for me to get my last sub 10 with Zag Sword.

[weak lotus]

if you need a guide on what to do now there is a pinned guide on #h1-story-discussion

[misty ridge]

there's tons of casual story spoilers in the main discussion channel

[dense berry]

yeah

[gray haven]

^

[dense berry]

like ||first and second epilogue||

[weak lotus]

ok yea

wait ||theres a second one?||

[misty ridge]

||there's only 1|| >.>

it's the ||ending|| and then ||the epi||

[sudden brook]

:D

[misty ridge]

not ||2 epis||

[sudden brook]

sub 10?

sub 10 minutes???

[dense berry]

what's the difference though shadoww

[gray haven]

Yes.

[weak lotus]

high heat players built different man

[misty ridge]

||end credits||

[gray haven]

I've got all aspects down to sub 10 except Zag Sword. Been saving his signature weapon for last.

[sudden brook]

I finished the game in 40 minutes

[misty ridge]

||the epilogue comes after the end credits||

[sudden brook]

how do you finish that in 4x less time

[gray haven]

All with Eternal Rose start, I must emphasize.

[misty ridge]

you get used to the game

[gray haven]

Practice, practice, practice.

[weak lotus]

my first run also was 40 minutes

[grave mist]

Now that the end won't be spoiled you can check out some speedrun videos

[misty ridge]

my first run was 29 min?

[weak lotus]

its normal

[sudden brook]

ayyy, I unlocked the last bit of the mirror

[weak lotus]

i think

well its your first run

you get better

[grave mist]

There are amazing players at this game

[weak lotus]

^^

[sudden brook]

what's the best mirror loadout for general use?

[weak lotus]

watching speedrun vids helped me get better tbh

[sudden brook]

since I have all the nodes now

[weak lotus]

honestly rusty

[sudden brook]

and lots of darkness to spend :D

[weak lotus]

just go with what you think is best

you can refund darkness using a key

so if you dont want smth thats always an option

[sudden brook]

alright

[misty ridge]

just remember... keep using spoiler tags
in here

[gray haven]

My first clear was 42:36.83.

[misty ridge]

I didn't get over 40 until after I unlocked some aspects & started to actually pay attention to my boons & stuff

[gray haven]

https://imgur.com/a/Zp9Oyzm

[misty ridge]

since I'd stop & just look at the effects

[sudden brook]

thanks

thank you all for helping me :D

[misty ridge]

your mirror is so red!

[gray haven]

lol I'd use High Confidence and God's Legacy most of the time.

And Shadow or Fiery depends on aspect and build.

[misty ridge]

PS for me, along w golden touch & dark regen

and legacy ofc

and stygian

[gray haven]

Stygian/Infernal also depends on aspect.

[misty ridge]

I forget to swap cuz I got too used to stygian

[gray haven]

Family Favorite is meta for speedruns except for a very small number of builds, but even then, it's not very clear if Privileged Status results in better DPS at all.

Same for ||high heat||.

[grave mist]

Everyone who's been following the chronicle of @sudden brook there is a huge plot twist in #h1-victory-boasting

[sudden brook]

I was

using

[snow yacht]

i have question so i started a run and then i got posiden but he only gave m e his aid boon

[sudden brook]

hell mode

[weak lotus]

lmao

[misty ridge]

[sudden brook]

well tbh it was intentional

I like a challenge

and I definitely got one

[misty ridge]

he only gave or only offered?

[sudden brook]

kekw

[misty ridge]

cuz you can only choose 1 boon

[snow yacht]

no only one offered

[misty ridge]

and you're not running ||heat||?

[gray haven]

@sudden brook time to go again.

[snow yacht]

nope

[sudden brook]

Yep

[snow yacht]

7th run i think

[weak lotus]

huh what

[gray haven]

Are you talking about Huge Catch?

[sudden brook]

With even more ||heat||

[misty ridge]

you didn't get 3 boons offered?

[gray haven]

That's a scripted event.

[snow yacht]

nope just his aid

[misty ridge]

that's not aid though

[weak lotus]

try screenshoting

[dense berry]

I think aid is w rioted too, is it not

[misty ridge]

huge catch isn't aid

[dense berry]

Autocorrect being bad

Isn't aid also scripted to teach you how to use rhem?

[misty ridge]

must've been so long ago I can't remember then

[dense berry]

I remember poseidon was my first aid

Though I only have a feint memory of it being scripted

[misty ridge]

I can't remember my first aid at all

[dense berry]

I am not sure

Maybe it,'s only scripted if you never got an aid after x runs

[weak lotus]

i dont think there was a scripted aid

at least i dont remember there being one

[normal viper]

aid is scripted

[arctic geode]

im funneling all my gifts into dusa

best bae

i still have no idea why some keepsakes seem 10x more useful than others

unless i get to have more of them during a run

[maiden ruin]

yes

there is a work order that allows you to change keepsakes during the run

[arctic geode]

i have that and i malready doing it

[maiden ruin]

good

[arctic geode]

i use coinpurse first then charon

[maiden ruin]

you should use a god keepsake

start to make builds

[arctic geode]

find it really hard to go for specifics