h1-for-new-players

[old escarp]

Dionysus has one that will give you an nectar

yes

[long moss]

I got the saytr's one
got 50 health from it so far, cuz immediately after his boon I got a nectar room

[buoyant thunder]

I'm not sure I understand what we're talking about here

[empty depot]

look at tatz on the moderators role

[long moss]

who specifically

[buoyant thunder]

You pinecone

It sounds like you're talking about Premium Vintage

[old escarp]

Dionysus isn't a satyr, he's an Olympian if I'm understanding what Pinecone was trying to say

[long moss]

lol

@old escarp the game is wrong

he is a satyr

a satyr god

[sleek axle]

🤨

[buoyant thunder]

He can probably transform into a satyr

[old escarp]

I know satyrs were said to be the companions of Dionysus but this is the first time I've heard someone claim that he was one as well

[sleek axle]

I know satyrs worshipped dio

[old escarp]

Anyway, mythology be like that and for the purposes of Supergiant's interpretation and telling, Dionysus is just another god

[buoyant thunder]

He's also a lot hotter in the game than he is in the stories :p

[long moss]

he isn't hot
but also I'm a lesbian so

[sleek axle]

He is objectively hot

[long moss]

eh

I like to pretend I can't see that

[old escarp]

Everyone has a different perspective on what is attractive to them, nothing wrong with that. Also nothing wrong with acknowledging someone as conventionally attractive without feeling anything towards them

[empty depot]

ı mean ı go when ı see dusa (joke)

[long moss]

dusa needs more body

[old escarp]

Dusa doesn't need a body, she's already ahead of the game

[sly vigil]

[long moss]

mfg

wait "hold lmb to defend"
can you block?

[old escarp]

With the shield, yes

[long moss]

oh wow

I didn't realise that

[uneven ledge]

how come nobody realizes this

[long moss]

cuz it's a weapon
even though it's a shield
and cuz this game isn't the type to let you avoid attacks without dodging

so if you hold lmb then you don't take damage from the direction you're facing, no matter what?

[old escarp]

Yes

You can be knocked back by some things though

[long moss]

what if you're in range of an explosive, but the center of the blast is in the direction you're blocking
do you block the explosive?

[old escarp]

Yup

[uneven ledge]

certain things can ignore your shield though

[long moss]

what attacks can damage you through your shield?

[gaunt quarry]

quick question: a daedalus boon for the twin fists says my dash strike is added to my attack sequence, does that mean its also affected by anything that effects the damage of my attack?

[muted latch]

dash strike always gets benefit from anything that buffs your attack

[gaunt quarry]

oh

[muted latch]

because it is still "attack"

[gaunt quarry]

makes sense

[muted latch]

but not vice versa

things that specifically says they buff Dash Strike does not buff normal attacks

[long moss]

" @uneven ledge

[uneven ledge]

stuff like meg's circle things

basically aoe with the weird exception of explosions

[long moss]

aoe that doesn't have a designated center

that seems intuitive to me

[muted latch]

or that originates from "not the front"

[long moss]

wdym

[muted latch]

the circles technically come from beneath you

so the shield cant block it

[long moss]

oh do they always backstab damage you?

[old escarp]

Zag doesn't take backstab damage*

[muted latch]

unless you use a certain keepsake

also beneath you is also not "behind you"

[long moss]

oh I read behind

[uneven ledge]

also, never take the myrmidon bracer if you're using shield

[long moss]

why?

[leaden whale]

bc u can block from the front anyways

[long moss]

oh

but
sometimes you aren't blocking

I get what you mean though

[fresh current]

@ this actually. Can someone piece together for me exactly what that hammer does? I’ve never been able to completely understand its intent either

It seems somewhat vaguely worded, unlike many of the descriptors in this game

[long moss]

also
the myrmidon bracer makes me think so much of percy jackson
cuz percy in that book series at some point has his body enchanted or smtn so that he can't die unless he is hurt in a certain spot on his body, and if he is hurt on that spot it kills him

[old escarp]

All dash strikes get a buff, and you get an additional attack at the end of your attack sequence that is the "dash strike" but without the dash. Effectively fills in the gap between start and end of normal fist attack sequence

[fresh current]

Ok, can you just hold the A button and go brrrrr endlessly at that point if you’re inclined?

[old escarp]

Essentially

[fresh current]

Thats nice

I dig that for my old man hands

I can just hold the button down and dash

[old escarp]

Rolling Knuckle is a good hammer, imo

[fresh current]

Without needing to worry about timing

[left crown]

https://prnt.sc/x6uk8p

out of these 3 which one is better?

[abstract steeple]

that depends on what your loadout is

[fresh current]

Is rolling knuckle the consecutive attack?

Or the sturdy?

[old escarp]

Yes

[abstract steeple]

What weapon are you using? what boons do you have?

[left crown]

shield

[abstract steeple]

but which shield? the base one?

[left crown]

divine strike

yes the base one

[old escarp]

I'd take Dashing Wallop solely because it's one for the prophecy (it's also a pretty good all around choice)

[fresh current]

Oh, how does that work precisely? Does the stack get reset at the end of each combo? How specific do they mean “consecutively”?

Yeah dashing wallop is always an EZ shield choice

Shield has an already massive dash attack hitbox

[analog radish]

hello

[fresh current]

Dashing wallop makes it cumulonimbus sized

[abstract steeple]

pulverizing blow wont help your attack as much as having a different attack boon, so I'd probably go dashing wallop

[fresh current]

Very useful if you have an athena reflector attack

[old escarp]

Ah, no, I meant it was the one that adds the dash strike. The consecutive hit hammer is a different one

[fresh current]

Ohhhhh

Yeah now that I understand that fully it sounds very nice

[abstract steeple]

Or if you're playing patient, you can go Ferocious guard

but you're fated to get the first and I prioritize that.

[fresh current]

Wait real quick @left crown

[analog radish]

I have no idea whats going on but ok

[fresh current]

What are we working with here for attack boon

That matters in this choice

[abstract steeple]

Divine Strike

[left crown]

?

[fresh current]

Oh, athena?

dashing wallop all day boo

[left crown]

oh ok

[fresh current]

Congratulations on your blimp-sized reflector

[left crown]

i chose it

[analog radish]

wutwut

chose the one for prophesy

[uneven ledge]

imagine if divine strike also worked while holding block with the shield

you can just cheese everything

[analog radish]

yes

i tryed that and got disapointed

[fresh current]

Honestly the interaction between it and shield having such a gargantuan dash attack is broken enough for me

[abstract steeple]

Divine Strike on ||Aspect of Lucifer|| is weird. Is it weird on all Adamant Rails?

[left crown]

https://prnt.sc/x6uwp1

here? whats my best choice

[fresh current]

Yeah divine strike kinda isn’t the play for rail

[old escarp]

That is how the shield behaved when the game first released in early access in December 2018, it was quickly nerfed to not reflect while blocking (to be clear, it did this without athena)

[analog radish]

the necter one

[fresh current]

Trippy shot

Or nectar

[abstract steeple]

yo @left crown you gotta figure out which ones work best for you in the build you're doing

[analog radish]

no you can use stones to do extradamage

[uneven ledge]

nectar if you're running low on health (and nectar)

[left crown]

ive been playing for like 9 hours and still cant figure out xD

[fresh current]

Trippy shot is S-tier cast @analog radish 😘

[abstract steeple]

I almost always take Premium Vintage unless I'm going for a specific boon or build because I love me some nectar

[uneven ledge]

trippy shot is generally a better choice imo

[fresh current]

Worth giving up the damage

[analog radish]

dud i know

but its not like hes going with a cast build

[fresh current]

That’s a general answer too

[analog radish]

also

[fresh current]

Trippy shot is just Best Cast

[analog radish]

with normal cast

you can do extra damage

[uneven ledge]

trippy shot is still really good on a non-cast build

[left crown]

Guys, im confused af

https://prnt.sc/x6v09k

[analog radish]

when stone stuck in them

[left crown]

i have all these but i dont know what they do

[uneven ledge]

you can pop it to stun a bunch of enemies at once

[left crown]

the gem, the blood

[fresh current]

Yeah

[uneven ledge]

they're meta currencies, you can use them for stuff at the house

[abstract steeple]

@left crown you're not going to know what they all do yet. Progress further and you'll find out.

[fresh current]

Hang on to them shaggy

[left crown]

ohhhhh

[fresh current]

They will become important as things unfold

[left crown]

ohhh ok

[analog radish]

you han train for 1 ambrosia if oyu want

[uneven ledge]

most of them aren't exactly useful straight away

[left crown]

thank you guys

[analog radish]

because why not

[old escarp]

Let's not start debating other people's builds for them in #h1-for-new-players please.

Also to that effect, please don't post screenshots of every choice you have to make asking for input, a text message will suffice

[fresh current]

I do think that’s a legitimately useful thing to call out and make known

[long moss]

would artemis or daedelus be better for getting meta currencies?

[left crown]

Guys is it just me? or the bow is IMPOSSIBLE to control with a controller?

[fresh current]

Trippy shot is generally worth acquiring when possible, above and beyond the extra damage that base cast offers

[analog radish]

wut

[abstract steeple]

wym?

[long moss]

or neither at all?

[analog radish]

depends i guess

[long moss]

I mean like keys and darkness and crap

[fresh current]

@left crown bow sucks when it’s new

[abstract steeple]

there's some auto aim going on that makes certain shots harder. It's even worse with another weapon type later, but for the most part I usually hit what I want to.

[long moss]

do either ever give meta currencies?

[old escarp]

Hammers only ever modify your weapon, has nothing to do with meta currency. Artemis won't do anything either

[analog radish]

doesn't matter

[fresh current]

Dont worry, it’s arguably the most broken weapon late game

But it takes a lot of upgrading

[analog radish]

what ever is better for your run take that

[long moss]

ok

[fresh current]

Not the best weapon #1

[abstract steeple]

@long moss you can see all of the boons per god in your codex in game. Daedalus afaik does not give currencies.

I think Dionysus and Poseidon are the ones that affect stuff like that.

[old escarp]

And Chaos, but yeah

[analog radish]

what if you could talk to daedalus in like a dlc or someting

[uneven ledge]

daedalus hammers have nothing to do with currencies

[left crown]

which shield is better? the 1st one of the 2nd one?

[uneven ledge]

except maybe for hoarding slash but it sure doesn't affect META currencies

[abstract steeple]

@left crown #h1-builds-and-combat

[long moss]

I don't see any of that stuff in the codex

[fresh current]

No, this is still quite appropriate for this channel

[uneven ledge]

chaos is generally best when maxed out, if you haven't upgraded it then it's just kinda underwhelming

[old escarp]

You have to purchase an item from the contractor before you can view boons in your codex

[fresh current]

@left crown I cannot recommend dropping your first 5 upgrade blood into Zag shield enough

[left crown]

how do i upgrade a weapon

[fresh current]

You will need Titan Blood

Acquired by defeating bosses

And by saving up loooots of money for the last shop in Styx

[left crown]

and where do i go to upgrade my weapon?

[fresh current]

Same room as skelly, when it comes available

[uneven ledge]

you use titan blood for that, and it's highly recommended that you either just save it for now or be absolutely sure about what you wanna upgrade

[fresh current]

Which should generally be sometime after you’ve beaten the game for the first time

^^^^^^ this

[analog radish]

i wasted all by titan blood

[uneven ledge]

early on titan blood is in limited supply but there'll be many chances to collect titan blood later

[fresh current]

Some weapons are amazing with only 1 blood, some weapons take 15 blood to be great but then they are B O N K E R S

[analog radish]

when i first unlpcked aspects

[left crown]

https://prnt.sc/x6vie9

is this room important?

[analog radish]

yes

[old escarp]

You can upgrade weapons starting the run after you unlock all of the 6 base weapons, which doesn't matter for whether you've cleared a run or not

[fresh current]

Hang on

That room is difficult

[analog radish]

do it

[uneven ledge]

you get two boons but those rooms are a bit challenging

[fresh current]

But has 2 rewards

[analog radish]

u get 2 booons

[fresh current]

But do this one

It has the easiest god there is

[analog radish]

yes no hard

[fresh current]

Onboard

[analog radish]

chose dio

[fresh current]

When you go into the room

Take dio boon

Yes

[analog radish]

and fight athena

[fresh current]

Take dio

[uneven ledge]

definitely choose dionysus and not athena

[fresh current]

Piss off athena

[analog radish]

athena cant hurt u

[uneven ledge]

don't tell him what happens

[old escarp]

There's certainly something to be said for letting players discover things on their own. If you don't know what something is, try it out and see! The game will become clear in due time if you follow this approach, and the worst thing that will ever happen is you lose a run and learn something

[fresh current]

And thank you for the correction @old escarp. I forget how some things are unlocked that early on in the game

@left crown The best piece of advice I can give you on progression for this entire game: Every Answer Is Keep Playing

[alpine ridge]

Yepppppp

Everything will be revealed with enough runs

[fresh current]

If you have a question, if something doesn’t seem to be happening, if you dont know what something is for

All answers, every single one I promise you, boil back to “keep playing” in this game

Every Answer Is Keep Playing. EAIKP.

[analog radish]

potato

[long moss]

OMFG
I HAVE TO CHOOSE KEY VS DARKNESS VS CHAOS

[analog radish]

bruh

[fresh current]

Whooaaaa

[analog radish]

they are all crap

[fresh current]

Easy girl

[alpine ridge]

Chaos always

[long moss]

can chaos ever give meta currencies?

[fresh current]

No

Buuuuuut

But

but

[analog radish]

chaos is good for ur runs

[alpine ridge]

it can make you have more of them

[analog radish]

if you need darknes/keys chose that

[fresh current]

Chaos can massively increase your rate of currency gain

[uneven ledge]

chaos can give you a boon that increases the amount of gold and darkness you gain though

[long moss]

IDC about the run

[fresh current]

Through the rest of the run

With some of her perks

[analog radish]

ah yes

investment

[uneven ledge]

"her"? smh

[alpine ridge]

by meta currencies, do you mean Titan's Blood etc?

[analog radish]

yes

[sleek axle]

Chaos is they/them

[alpine ridge]

or Darkness and keys and such?

[analog radish]

yes

[fresh current]

not quite titans blood for chaos, but darkness and keys for sure

[old escarp]

Meta currency is anything you can spend outside of a run

[fresh current]

^^^

[analog radish]

i also was confused about what a meta curence was

[fresh current]

the dividing line is the question: Do I keep this when I die?

[alpine ridge]

So Chaos would be able to give you more Darkness and Gems for sure

[long moss]

well
I do have 9 keys already
and I have only unlocked one stage of the mirror
so
one more key is prob the best bet

[fresh current]

yeah honestly

Take the immediate gain

[alpine ridge]

ah yeah, unlocking the mirror is top priority tbh

[fresh current]

Bird in the hand worth 2 in the bush etc

[analog radish]

guys

[alpine ridge]

Yessss?

[analog radish]

1-((1-0.22)^3)

yes

[polar smelt]

[analog radish]

this was someitng form yesterdays discusion

[fresh current]

I would prioritize keys ->darkness for now pinecone

[long moss]

also
on chaos
say I wanted dark instead,
chaos only has a chance of increasing those drops
while darkness is well, darkness
so I would want to pick darkness anyways, unless I have all the darkness I need, then I would pick chaos for gems, right?

[fresh current]

Until further notice basically

[analog radish]

there are some boons that make you get more darknes/gems

[long moss]

IK

[fresh current]

Honestly I wouldn’t worry about chaos too much for farming right this second

[long moss]

but it isn't guaranteed @analog radish

[fresh current]

To be perfectly honest with you, you’re still not out of first gear yet

[analog radish]

bruh

[old escarp]

I would say that if your runs are lasting several biomes, Chaos is worth more than a single Darkness/Gem/Key room

[analog radish]

just chose the darkthirst wepon then

[old escarp]

If you're still dying in Tartarus often, then Chaos will be less beneficial

[fresh current]

I would be taking more immediate rewards until you’re lasting through at least the end of asphodel consistently

^^^^^^

Also if you’ve beaten the furies once then if you beat them again with the same weapon you get quite a fat knot of darkness

[analog radish]

lmao

[fresh current]

Same goes for every boss

[analog radish]

to grind darknes

just kill the same boss over and over

[fresh current]

Very effective way of darkness grinding

[analog radish]

yes i agree

also use the weppong with darkthirst

[long moss]

cuz they only drop titan's blood the first time with each weapon?

[fresh current]

Yup. Use it for the +20% darkness, and use it because the diversity will make you a better player by default

Honestly for now I’m going to answer that with a yes

The answer is more complex

But it doesn’t change until you’ve cleared the game

Per-weapon of course

and not only titans blood

Other rewards

[sly vigil]

Dark Thirst is a buff to Dark Regeneration

[fresh current]

But rewards that aren’t darkness

Rewards vary by boss, all rewards are always the same as you progress. Blood, diamond, ambrosia, blood

Always the same 4, always in that order

If you make it to Styx, too, there will always be an option to buy either a diamond or a blood, for 1000 or 1200 gold respectively

But again, that’s down the road. Right now we need to get you to meet Lernie! And pat his head 😇

[polar smelt]

you're describing far beyond their current spot sword, prob best let them t- nvm

[sleek axle]

You gotta spoiler ||styx||

[abstract steeple]

Yeah idk what question you were answering but "use the dark thirst weapon combined with dark regen when it's available" would have probably sufficed

[old escarp]

Styx isn't a spoiler per channel guidelines

[long moss]

wait what happens if you pick a fated choice?

[old escarp]

But there's still no reason to discuss it with someone who isn't there yet

[long moss]

what happens if you don't?

[abstract steeple]

They're like achievement lists.

You get rewards for doing it. No penalty.

[old escarp]

Fated Choice is just an indicator telling you that you need it for a prophecy. It will remain until you pick that option

[abstract steeple]

If you check the desk in your room, the fated list of minor prophecies, it'll tell you what to do

And working on them can be a nice side-project as you try and get further in your runs

[long moss]

oh so there isn't a downside to refusing because the prophecy is that you will eventually pick it

[abstract steeple]

Yup!

I would recommend trying everything out unless it's absolutely terrible for your build, though.

[uneven ledge]

the prophecies range from very minor and you'll probably get them eventually

[abstract steeple]

Give new things a try.

[old escarp]

Completing prophecies are a great way to earn meta currency early on

[uneven ledge]

to stuff that you basically have to go out of your way to do but are very rewarding

[long moss]

dude
shield is OP AF for the survive challenges

just run into a corner and block lol

[uneven ledge]

shield is very cheesy

[abstract steeple]

A lot of the weapons completely change the way you play.

They all have their uses.

[uneven ledge]

especially if you have charge shot

[abstract steeple]

There are some boon and weapon combos that are even more powerful. I had a fun one today that let me electrify everyone

[gloomy glen]

How can i farm titan blood to upgrade my weapons

Im not sure which one i like yet so im hesitant to upgrade them. I like the spear i think but thw upgrades are for the special which seems bad

[old escarp]

If you've done the first boss on all weapons, you're best option unfortunately is you have to start clearing runs

[gloomy glen]

Oof i havent been able to best the 3rd boss yet

Stupid bull guy :/

[old escarp]

As for which to invest in, go with whichever you are most comfortable with

[gloomy glen]

I was doing a good run with the adamant rail but then it felt so weak past hydta fight

[uneven ledge]

to be honest that's basically zeus build in rail

[gloomy glen]

Shield feels so good for most normal enemies but i died to hydra with it

[long moss]

the special for the spear is great

[uneven ledge]

feels insane at the start but super underwhelming when you get past asphodel, even if you get really lucky with zeus appearing every 2 chambers

[gloomy glen]

Idk the spear special felt so useless like the shield one

[long moss]

I like the shield throw

[gloomy glen]

It does like so little damage

[long moss]

the point is the range

not the damage

[waxen basin]

Aye someone gets it. Spear special nice

[old escarp]

Shield throw is nice for applying effects

[gloomy glen]

Is there some use to spear special im missing

[waxen basin]

2 hits

[long moss]

it doesn't matter how little damage it deals if you are less likely to take damage using it

[gloomy glen]

Ye but i used the 3hit dash attack from hammer upgrade so idk the special seemed not good

[long moss]

spear special gets a backstab each time if you double cast it every time

[gloomy glen]

Hmm

[old escarp]

Assuming you've invested in Shadow Presence, that is

[gloomy glen]

I think i have

[long moss]

backstab gets insane damage if you have the right upgrades

[gloomy glen]

I havent used any alternate skills in the mirror

The basic ones seems good to me atm

[waxen basin]

Or even go for rocket spear, it's stronger but unfortuately no 2nd hit

[long moss]

but the 2nd hit is so good thoooo

[old escarp]

Spear special likes big damage buffs, try it with Aphrodite or Artemis

[gloomy glen]

I dont know all the boons yet so i dont always know which door to take when i havr a choice between gods

[old escarp]

Fair enough, you'll get there in time

[waxen basin]

And then you'll learn to love 2nd hit

All hail second hit

[gloomy glen]

So attack buffs effect attack and dash strike but not special correct?

[waxen basin]

Yes

[old escarp]

Correct

[gloomy glen]

Who gives deflect

[uneven ledge]

i saw someone do this crazy rocket spear build where he just spams special with swift flourish

i could try that, seems like a nice change of pace from hidden spear special spam

[long moss]

is it important I pet cerberus every death?

[gaunt quarry]

i've figured out that the tell for the spin attacks on some bosses is the outline of a circle that forms around them before they do that

but how do i know what direction they're going to move in before doing the attack?

[old escarp]

Athena

[old escarp]

I don't know, are you a criminal?

[gaunt quarry]

not knowing that has made dodging theseus and ||hades'|| spin attacks super random

[waxen basin]

Yes

[gloomy glen]

I always pet doggo

[long moss]

@old escarp 0.o wut

[old escarp]

People who don't pet are criminals, is why I ask

[long moss]

lol ok

but there isn't any benefit?

[gloomy glen]

So are we expecting to get extra levels and weapons in future btw?

[sinful inlet]

Ive found a favourite weapon

[waxen basin]

You get an achievement on steam

[long moss]

is there atleast a benefit to how much he likes you if you pet him? or is it entirely worthless outside of making 1s and 0s "happy"?

[old escarp]

There is but I don't want to say too much

[gloomy glen]

I mean u make doggo happy

Thats a good enough benefit

[long moss]

he's a piece of code

he isn't a dog
he is a set of 1s and 0s

[gloomy glen]

Thats wut they want u to think

[long moss]

[waxen basin]

I can't remember what you mean by this lol

[long moss]

@old escarp so there is an actual benefit though?
thanks for not spoiling
but I want to know for sure if there is something, even if I don't wanna know what it is

[gloomy glen]

At the very least extra dialogue

And in this game thats a big plus

[old escarp]

I'll put it in spoilers for those who don't want to know. It's not like, major or anything but ||petting him a certain number of times is required to max out his affinity||

[waxen basin]

Oh duh

[long moss]

yeah duh

[sleek pond]

Technically there is no game/numbers benefit if that's what you're asking. It's just for completion or story reasons @long moss

[silk swift]

I have to say this Pinecone person has some atrocious takes

[long moss]

wdym

[silk swift]

I mean what I said, I find some of your opinions on things frankly unnerving

[gaunt quarry]

could someone answer this question

[long moss]

specifically the achknowledgement that this is a videogame and thus made of code, or something else?

[alpine ridge]

not being able to bond with a dog regardless of it's seeming nonexistence is a strange opinion

why is it strange? who knows

[silk swift]

I don't want to get metaphysical on you in new player chat

But the whole thing about Zagreus being a mysoginist was awful

[old escarp]

Generally in the direction they're facing from my own observations

[alpine ridge]

Yep

[silk swift]

Towards Zag usually

[gaunt quarry]

oh they face in the direction before they dash? ok

[alpine ridge]

Yep yep

[long moss]

I can bond with the dog
I just want to know if it has any ingame purpose

and it doesn't

[gaunt quarry]

also speaking of that, the spin attack of the final boss is really hard to dodge

[silk swift]

But it does though

[long moss]

outside of the hearts and friendship, no

[gaunt quarry]

like even if i see the tell it seems like i'm too early and i get clipped by it when i dash away

[silk swift]

Maxing affinity is a gameplay mechanic

You should try dashing without inputting attack commands

[alpine ridge]

yeah redacted's spin is deceptively huge

[silk swift]

Dash attacks take away your invulnerability frames

[gaunt quarry]

oh ok

yeah i do be mashing

i'll try not to do that next time

[long moss]

calling them redacted instead of saying ||it in spoilers, lol did you expect me to say their name? IDK who it is||

[silk swift]

Double dash when you see the tell will usually dodge

[long moss]

is funny to me

[gaunt quarry]

ok

[silk swift]

The game refers to the final boss as REDACTED

[long moss]

wait really?

[old escarp]

Yes

[alpine ridge]

also general policy on the channel is to say redacted as well

spoilers or redacted iirc?

[old escarp]

Also as the final boss, even if it seems obvious, spoilering or referring to the boss as redacted is the protocol in #h1-for-new-players and #h1-discussion

[long moss]

is there any way to learn who the boss actually is?
or are they just redacted?

lol

[alpine ridge]

oooooooh

[silk swift]

Sure, reach the final boss and you'll see.

[alpine ridge]

get to them basically

[long moss]

ok

imagine if the boss fight was just against a giant black square or smtn

[alpine ridge]

||it's more like a green circle but yeah||

[silk swift]

I can neither confirm nor deny these rumors 😅

[muted latch]

you (Zag) are literally the only one that knows who the final boss is until much, much later into the story

[long moss]

wait what are the chances of poseidon and chaos having meta currencies?

athena is the easy god for angering with dual boons right?

@silk swift

@alpine ridge

[alpine ridge]

Yep

No direct damage to you just makes the enemies invulnerable for a short period of time

[long moss]

and wait
how do you know what the furies predict you will choose?

outside of the menus where you are actively choosing

[silk swift]

Do you mean the Fates?

[long moss]

yeah

I meant fates

lol

[silk swift]

Athena is simpler than most for duo rooms, dio is pretty easy, ares isn't difficult, Poseidon is deceptively easy but can catch you.

There is a book in your room which you need to buy from the contractor early on, the Prophecies all show up there eventually

I'm not sure what you mean by meta currencies.

[muted latch]

I assume it's the meta currency boosting boons from chaos and poseidon

RNG unfortunately, use fated persuasion if you have it

[long moss]

meta currencies are darkness and keys and crap

[silk swift]

Oh, okay

I'm not sure what the odds of thoee boons are, Poseidon has 1 that increases how much you get and 1 that just gives you stuff.

Chaos has 1 I think that increases gems and darkness and 1 for gold, IIRC. Don't often take those so not sure

[long moss]

"slamming foes into barriers"
does this include the walls of the chamber, or only like breakable pillars, or what?

[sleek axle]

Anything that you can slam foes into counts

Any solid surface

[muted latch]

walls, pillars, all count

[long moss]

is typhoon's fury or breaking wave better?

@sleek axle

[sleek axle]

uh

typhoon's fury imo

[alpine ridge]

I dunno if there's like a consensus but i like the one that makes an explosion more

[long moss]

how much damage is the base damage for slamming into a wall?
does fury increase just the damage for hitting the wall, or also the attack that caused them to hit the wall?

[alpine ridge]

fury just affects the damage when hitting the wall, and I dunno what the base damage is tbh

[sleek axle]

yeah

[alpine ridge]

it's not high iirc

[long moss]

is it more or less than 43 dmg?

if it is more then it is subjective which is better, cuz one is aoe one is a single attack
if it is less, the aoe is better either way cuz 350% of 43 is 150.5

and the aoe attack does 150

[alpine ridge]

it's way lower than 43

like less than 20 i think

[muted latch]

actually it's not a set number

it's calculated based on distance and speed

[alpine ridge]

but like range doesn't reach 43 by itself i don't think

[long moss]

what if you keep throwing them into a wall over and over cuz you're adjacent to it?

[muted latch]

and I'm pretty sure elysium and styx rooms have higher wall slam damage modifier

fury + breaking wave deals a ton of damage basically

capable of two shotting the rats if you get the distance right

[opaque aurora]

I don’t know how to start the ||quest for Achilles to get his companion||

😦

I’ve already given him the max amount of ||nectar that I can||

Same deal with meg

[sleek axle]

||you done that with patty yet?||

[opaque aurora]

Not sure what u mean. I am still pretty new to this game and just trying to figure stuff out

[sleek axle]

you need to unlock his companion first lol

[opaque aurora]

That’s what I’m trying to do tho. I have his keepsake

[sleek axle]

oh wait

im dumb

the thing you gotta do is later on in the game

so i wouldnt really stress it yet

[opaque aurora]

Oh ok

Well I mean how much later? Cause I’m at about ||heat 8||

[sleek axle]

you beat ||hades||already?

[opaque aurora]

Yeah about 7 times

[sleek axle]

well have you given nectar to ||patroclus?||

the npc in elysium

[opaque aurora]

No it hasn’t ever given me the option

So I guess that’s my next step lol

[sleek axle]

well you have to do that

[opaque aurora]

Thanks

[sleek axle]

yup

np

[faint umbra]

if it hasnt given you the option, try opening the codex at his page if you havent yet

[opaque aurora]

Ohh I haven’t done that. I don’t really look at the codex all that often lol

Thanks

[humble ore]

I’ve ||given the max amount of nectar to Thanatos and got the locked heart, how do I get his quest?||

[sly shuttle]

You need to ||beat/tie him in the "Death Approaches" encounter (when he shows up in a room and kills enemies for you)||. Then ||talk to him||.

[humble ore]

Ah ok. Is it like a random event where it pops up because ||I’ve gotten him again after I got the lock and beaten him but he just left||

[sly shuttle]

Yeah ||he leaves, but if I remember correctly the hearts unlock after you talk to him in the house of Hades afterwards.||

[humble ore]

Ok nice

[formal totem]

||how to get flame wheel's release? never encountered it||

[sly shuttle]

||It's random, and only appears in Elysium wells, so it's very much possible you're just a bit unlucky. I'm 100 hours in and only saw it a few times.||

[formal totem]

||i see. 60 hours, never seen it adn it's the last one for the achievement||

[sly shuttle]

||Pretty rare yeah. Just for completeness, the well in the passage room between Asphodel and Elysium doesn't/can't have that item, only wells that actually spawn in Elysium.||

[long moss]

is there a way to know how many DD's you've used?

[analog radish]

hello hello

[tribal adder]

https://imgur.com/a/5Gq5ZYM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

YEAH BABY

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR

[novel shore]

[analog radish]

[wooden trench]

What is the difference between normal mode and hell mode?

[wooden trench]

Congrats

[tribal adder]

these mandrakes are cool

these rats on the other hand

[cyan vault]

Definitely a good feeling. I don’t want to jinx it, but until very recently that has been a wall in my progression.

Personally, I hate the snakes the most.

[tribal adder]

the laser ones?

[tranquil escarp]

I don't like the creatures that shoot poison needles at you the most.

[tribal adder]

almost killed me honestly

oh so thats what that one does

[blazing trout]

Make sure to talk to your good shade

[tribal adder]

im in the funny fight for the first time i will die

[cyan vault]

The satyrs are a handful for sure.

[tribal adder]

welp that didnt take long

https://imgur.com/a/zTlb51q

oh my god i can go fishing now

[tranquil escarp]

Try try again. 😅

Fishing is fun. :3

[tribal adder]

now clearly i should give this ambrosia to skelly

[cyan vault]

I kinda hate fishing. Stupid fated list.

[ocean cosmos]

the fishies are cute

[wooden trench]

I like fishing

free rewards

[tranquil escarp]

I've been able to catch up to three fish per run.

[novel shore]

best poseidon boon is the fishing one

[wooden trench]

I never got that one again

I only got it the first time where it's like

100% chance to get it

but I died

[tranquil escarp]

I think Poseidon's Call boon is actually pretty great.

[wooden trench]

miserably

[tranquil escarp]

I have seen the fishing boon maybe once after the scripted occurance.

[novel shore]

same

and I sold it to get the Thanks, But No Thanks achievement

[wooden trench]

I regret selling it

it would've been great

getting that in tartarus

👌

the amount of rewards you could get seems juicy

[novel shore]

im not that great at the fishing game yet so

[ocean cosmos]

Pro tip: if you get 3 fake bobs, the 4th one will always be a hit

[fresh current]

So who wants me to explain how fishing works

[uneven ledge]

.

[fresh current]

Yeah it’s that ^^^

To simplify that text

[sleek axle]

If it bobs 3 times its guaranteed on the fourth

All you need to know

[fresh current]

Think of fishing as a mini game analogous to a light switch flipping up and down

[sleek axle]

Oh my god you are not helping anyone

[uneven ledge]

it's hard to explain

[fresh current]

In this game, the light switch starts neutral and flips down 4 times, and up 3

[wooden trench]

Just use audio cues

the real bob sounds different than the fake ones

[tribal adder]

honestly poseidon is my favourite god in this game

really like the knockback

rupture

bonus damage to bosses

[fresh current]

Ok @sleek axle I’m just going to take a second to address this. I don't know what your problem is with me, but you need to back the hell up. If you don't like my explanations or way of describing things you are welcome to come up with your own novel descriptions of things and help people in your own way. In the mean time, find a way to take the venom out of your voice when you address me while I'm trying to help others. ✌🏻

Now then, fishing.

[tribal adder]

damn living up to your name

[sleek axle]

Buddy the way you are 'helping' people is by using convoluted ass metaphors and analogies that no one gets

[fresh current]

Fishing is a mini game with 4 OFF positions and 3 ON positions

[uneven ledge]

i'm just gonna check back on this later

[sleek axle]

Use simple, concise phrases that people can get immediately

[fresh current]

Every ON is a chance to catch a fish

[sleek axle]

Saves everyone time and energy

[fresh current]

And every OFF is a false Bob, and the game proceeds.

[sleek axle]

My problem isn't with you it's the way you give advice

[fresh current]

The game starts with the first ON position (chance to catch a fish) and proceeds from there

From here on out its Russian roulette with a light switch

On, off, on, off

[errant bramble]

Please stop

[fresh current]

Now, timing is a piece of this

If you get a Bob, and you don't get a catch very shortly thereafter, you will get another false Bob always

If a catch is going to happen, it will happen very quickly after the Bob

I’m just going to draw this out. It’s much easier to explain in a picture.

[errant bramble]

The block feature is underrated btw Artemis

[lunar orchid]

my method for fishing is just watching for the vertical flash????

[sleek axle]

Yeah that's what most people do

Though a little trick is if there's 3 fake bobs the 4th one is guaranteed

[leaden whale]

let’s move on now

[stray terrace]

anyways, theseus sucks

[leaden whale]

nooooo

[sleek axle]

Theseus is just insecure

[stray terrace]

theseus really needs to treat asterius better

smh

[sleek axle]

Fr free my man asterius

He deserves better

[stray terrace]

theseus basically relies upon asterius to do anything

without his god call or his buddy hes a dancing pickle with feet and a shield

[gaunt quarry]

what does forging a bond ACTUALLY do

[empty depot]

what is even forging a bond

[raw coral]

If you wanna be spoiled and find out, ask in #h1-story-discussion

Otherwise you could look it up

[empty depot]

ok ı will go

[raw coral]

It's not really a new player thing

[long moss]

is there a way to find out how many DD's you have left this run?

[raw coral]

Yes, it's a set of icons showing above your health

They look like Zag heads if there are any

if you used them up, they look like empty circles

[north quail]

yeah i noticed that some time ago, i also noticed that the most frequent catches are 2nd and 4th

i hate this discord feature that pings a member when you redact the message

[long moss]

I BEAT MEG FOR THE SECOND TIME!

[blazing trout]

Ah I remember when I couldn’t beat Meg

[wooden trench]

Congrats

[blazing trout]

It took me forever to beat her at first lol

Nice job tho

[long moss]

titan's blood has such a gross animation

[wooden trench]

It didn't take me very long but

I tried running on a fresh file today

and I can't replicate what I did

I got used too much to having 2 dashes

and I get rekt

[long moss]

ykw I think I sorta want to stream rn

[analog radish]

potato

[muted latch]

yeah I tried fresh file once

died in Elysium

[novel shore]

fresh files seem hella tough, especially since you cant heal at first

[drifting island]

fresh file is hard as heck yeah

[wooden trench]

My thing with fresh file is

1 dash

I'm not used to it

I'll be practicing to run it tho, seems like a good achievement

and a good flex

[leaden whale]

1 dash, no hammers or hermes

its rough

[uneven ledge]

oh and also no ||demeter|| lol

[long moss]

3rd time beating meg! I am starting to consistently get it with spear!

what are secret stashes? is it a spoiler?

[sleek pond]

Are you talking about Treasure Troves or fountain rooms? That's not a spoiler.

[analog radish]

its not "end boss onward"

[sleek pond]

I had to google it. The "secret stashes" at the bottom of the keepsake menu are spoilers. I'm just going to say you won't be getting those for a while and leave it there.

[long moss]

the thing you have with keepsakes

or ok you just said

[sleek pond]

Yup yup, you're good

[analog radish]

ahha

[long moss]

how many chambers in asphodel?

[sleek pond]

14

[analog radish]

i think

10

someitng like that

[long moss]

are you confident joker?

[analog radish]

isn't it 12-10-14?

[stray terrace]

around the same as tartarus

[sleek pond]

Yes No.

[long moss]

tartarus is 15

[analog radish]

10chambers

i googled

[stray terrace]

10 really doesnt seem like a lot

[analog radish]

Asphodel is the second biome Zagreus encounters during his escape attempts, and is always 10 chambers long; beginning at Room 16 with an overlook of the region and ending at the 25th Chamber in the Stairway Chamber.

its on wiki

also asphodel always feels shorter to me

[sleek pond]

Whoop I mismathed

[analog radish]

thats why

[drowsy plover]

Yep, 10 chambers

[analog radish]

mathn't

[long moss]

do I anger artemis or dionysis?

[analog radish]

erm

[sleek pond]

Artemis is easier to deal with imo

[analog radish]

doesn't mater

i feel both equaly hard

idk

[long moss]

one is easier than the other isn't it?

[sleek pond]

I could tell you what they do if you like

[long moss]

please do

[analog radish]

dio

has dlower projectile things

but they stay on the ground

[long moss]

do you mean flower?

[sleek pond]

Artemis makes things invulnerable, dio makes little spots on the ground that cause damage and stutter you

[analog radish]

dud

ur thinking of athena

[sleek pond]

Yup

[analog radish]

artemis is dunter

[long moss]

artemis

not athena

[analog radish]

she shot u

[sleek pond]

Why do I always mix those up

[long moss]

they're nothing alike

[analog radish]

they basicaly do the same thing

[sleek pond]

Yeah Artemis makes circles that chase you

[analog radish]

dio and arti

but like

[sleek pond]

Dio makes static spots

[long moss]

athena big brains
artemis is big archer

[analog radish]

artemis is faster and more "spots"

dio makes things that stay on the ground

[sleek pond]

They're about the same then. Dio is slightly easier but you have to watch where you step. With Artemis you have to run and dodge more.

[long moss]

I'll choose the one that will give me the most benefit first
my goal for dio is meta currencies
so I'll go artemis first

[sleek pond]

I would personally anger all of them just to see what they do so later you can make the decision based on who you feel is easiest to dodge

[boreal cave]

aphro always gets me for some reason

[sleek pond]

Yeah, her and Posiden for me

[long moss]

well
I died first
should have chosen dio

[sleek pond]

Gotta keep on dashing

[zenith kiln]

um what is the trick to fishing? i am either late or early.

[stray terrace]

a white flash indicates a bite, not just a bob

you have to be really fast to catch a fish

press the same button you pressed to cast to reel it in when the cue appears

[sleek pond]

I look right above the bobber and only press catch when I see the tall streak of light. I don't even look directly at the bobber.

[zenith kiln]

thought it was a bob

there’s a light? need to be watching next time

[sleek pond]

Yes it's subtle but it's there.

[zenith kiln]

gotcha thx

[abstract steeple]

I'll keep an eye out for that. I don't get the rare fish very often.

[analog radish]

lmao its salty dud

[sleek pond]

If you get it within 0.36 seconds you have a good chance for legendary fish. You just have to be fast.

I think the wiki said it was bugged at 50% for the faster catch time

[sly vigil]

Yup

[abstract steeple]

I just got to Meg and only have one boon ._.

how unlucky

[blazing trout]

I got to Meg with 0 boons once

And still won

Cause shield op

[livid ledge]

0 boons?

is that possible haha

[sleek pond]

Yes, you just have to be careful about the rooms you enter and sell boons off in wells

[analog radish]

yes

[long moss]

tfw you're 1 gold away from affording a kiss of styx

[analog radish]

there is special dialogue

[sly vigil]

Diogoge

[analog radish]

if you get to final boss with no boons

[analog radish]

dont bully my spelling

[sly vigil]

It's verygoodyesyes

[analog radish]

[livid ledge]

oh interesting, i guess that's a hard fight, unless Aspects get really OP at high levels

[sly vigil]

Yeah lol

[analog radish]

most aspects are good

[sly vigil]

And Shackle

[analog radish]

not op but very good

solid

[sly vigil]

+100% damage is basically Epic Heartbreak

[analog radish]

do chaos boons count

if u get a +60% attack from chaos

do you still get bonus from shackle?

[sly vigil]

Think so

[analog radish]

[leaden whale]

shackles doesn't work if you have a boon that fill one of your 5 main slots (doesn't work from that slot), but works if you have Chaos/Ares boons that boost attack/spe....

[abstract steeple]

I just learned recently that any attack, special, or cast boon will negate the entire thing

Which is a let down. I assumed it would benefit those things unless a boon did.

[errant bramble]

That’s not correct

And it’s actually super easy to test

[analog radish]

its if you dont have a boon on it, it does extra damage

[errant bramble]

Attack, get a boon, attack again

[analog radish]

waitwait

you need to construct a hypothesis first

very funny i know

[errant bramble]

I never went to bricklaying school

How I build one

[abstract steeple]

I wouldn't say it's "super easy" to test. You have to do it mid-run.

[leaden whale]

you can test that with your first boon, usually, that's not mid run

[analog radish]

[errant bramble]

Not much that’s easier to test in this game

As they said, you need 1 boon which happens as soon as the run starts and then you get a monster

You don’t even need to leave the first chamber

But sure

So difficult

[abstract steeple]

I didn't say it was difficult lol

I just said it's not "super easy"

Not compared to being in the test room and being able to do it there

[errant bramble]

The “test room” in this game is pretty useless

[abstract steeple]

After this run I'll give it a shot

I disagree. I love beating up on skelly.

I also love the little tooltips in the corner for when you first use a weapon

Though I wish it explained a bit more, like when weapons heal you

[leaden whale]

i just did the test, and i can confirm it's wrong: pick my first boon on attack, boost from shackles on attack disappeared but special and cast damage remained the same.

[abstract steeple]

Nice! I must have read wrong, then. So much misinformation about this game. I wish the wiki were a bit more helpful.

yoooo, I never noticed the light before! that's a good tip!

[long moss]

I am about to fight meg
and I am VERY confident I am gonna win for the fourth time

first I have a zoom meeting rn tho

[abstract steeple]

gl!

[long moss]

thx

[reef shoal]

Divine Dash or Tidal Dash?

[analog radish]

divine if your getting hit with alot of projectiles tidal for damage

[shy pine]

tidal is good for knockback too

and for stacking a billion other poseidon boons

[reef shoal]

Yeah I usually run Tidal nowadays but I ran Divine when I was new to the game.

[shy pine]

me too! and then i learned to just dash EVERYWHERE

[reef shoal]

My ideal set up is Artemis/Aphrodite attack/special, ||Demeter||, Dionysus, or Ares cast, Poseidon Dash, Dionysus Call.

[abstract steeple]

My friend likes Tidal Dash and then running into everyone. I prefer Thunder Dash, myself.

[reef shoal]

unless it's shield or rail which uses Zeus and Artemis/Ares

[livid ledge]

yeah sometimes you don't want knockback

[shy pine]

i’ve had a lot of success (and fun) stacking doom w rail

[abstract steeple]

rail is good for stackign

[coarse jay]

I've seen you can look up boons in a similar way like codex entries, how/when do i unlock this feature or how do i open it?

[long moss]

GODS the gorgon + falling rock miniboss can be EXTREMELY deadly if you don't know what you're doing

I lost 2 DD's before I stopped getting destroyed by them,

[dusk elk]

dash through the circle wave without dash striking

oh wait do you mean the easy version

[long moss]

no I am on hell mode

[dusk elk]

so you’re have MM on?

[long moss]

MM?

[dusk elk]

middle management

it’s not automatically enabled on hell mode but you can turn it on

[long moss]

I have minimum hell mode ||heat||

I face the hydra now for the first time
wish me luck

[tranquil bronze]

Hi I want to ask how I can get the true ending from hades ^^?

[long moss]

ask in #h1-story-discussion

that is def a spoiler'd answer

[tranquil bronze]

OK sorry^^

[long moss]

THE LAST WEAPON IS A GUN???

[errant bramble]

More like a combination grenade launcher and magnetic rail gun!

Not “just a gun”

[opaque aurora]

It’s pretty good

Especially if you get the hammer modification to your special

The missile

[sly vigil]

Didn't you know about the infamous auto machine gun equipped with a grenade launcher in ancient Greek mythology?
Smh some people.

[sleek axle]

Yeah lol

||Hestia|| was packin heat ngl

[long moss]

||the reveal button showed up with the weapons||

[weary vector]

Now you get the really good stuff

[long moss]

how do I decide which weapon to enhance?

[sleek axle]

Depends on which weapon you like more I guess

[blazing trout]

Play with the aspects and enhance the ones you like and do good with

[alpine ridge]

I’d argue unlocking aspects is better than upgrading early on just so you can experience all of them

Then decide what you like

[polar smelt]

nah, I think you go all in on an aspect you think you'll enjoy and if you don't you can just "give up" during the run and get your blood refunded

that's what I did a lot of the times

[long moss]

wait does blood refund every time you die?
I haven't beat a run yet lol

[polar smelt]

I know pine likes to do faer research so probably will youtube

[alpine ridge]

No it doesnt, only when you “Give Up” which resets to the last save

[long moss]

I am very grateful for you using my prefered pronouns

[polar smelt]

nah but if you commit blood and then go into a run, you can hit "give up" and it'll take you back to your courtyard before you put the blood in

(as long as you don't go back into your bedroom which triggers a save)

[long moss]

if you end up saving the specing of the blood, is there any way to reset?

[polar smelt]

negative

[alpine ridge]

Nope

[long moss]

damn

[polar smelt]

it's not the end of the world though, your first few runs will be the toughest, then things will start clicking into place and you'll have more blood than you know what to do with it

source: I have 35 blood

[long moss]

how do I unlock aspects?

[polar smelt]

there's certain dialogue from achilles & skelly after you unlock all weapons

[alpine ridge]

For the 2nd and 3rd, just Blood

Then the hidden ones are dialogue based

[polar smelt]

^

[alpine ridge]

Oh you also need to have unlocked all weapons first if you haven’t done that yet

[long moss]

well yeah the aspects didn't exist until I unlocked the gun

so
I so far have liked spear the most
but now I have the gun
so I have to try it now ;-;

[polar smelt]

rail people either love or hate, no inbetween

start zeus' keepsake and take attack boon

[long moss]

I am not gonna do that
I am gonna use the DD keepsake

[polar smelt]

fair, you'll learn to go without that keepsake in tartarus in time

[long moss]

I got tempest flourish epic as my first boon
this is gonna be fun

KEK AND MY SECOND IS A POM
THIS IS GONNA BE FUN

Über grenade launcher

dude
I think I am gonna take like 0 damage with this wep
how could someone hate this thing?

I DEF prefer this to spear

[polar smelt]

people find the reload pattern weird

[sleek axle]

And the base damage isn't very high

Most people start struggling with it in elysium and styx

[silk swift]

If you have tempest flourish you really really want lightning attack

You want it anyway but it's particularly insane with it

[sleek pond]

^

[long moss]

I JUST BEAT MEG WITHOUT USING A SINGLE DD

GUNS ARE AWESOME

[old escarp]

Congrats

[leaden whale]

I got to Styx and a giant rat killed me. Oof

[waxen crown]

h8 the rats

[floral nacelle]

The poison is so annoying

and has killed me many times

[leaden whale]

yes

[polar smelt]

styx enemies are spooky

I always feel awful when I DD to poison

[leaden whale]

Its the furthest I got. So im fairly proud of myself.

[dim dew]

i've gotten all the way to the final battle

and then i got killed rip

[leaden whale]

So close yet so far

[dim dew]

at this point i usually die at either the elysium boss battle or in styx

[waxen crown]

i once used all 3 in the temple

[dim dew]

been getting better at elysium though

[polar smelt]

that is good progress

[leaden whale]

It took me like 3 attempts to beat Thesus and Minotaur

[polar smelt]

only 3? actually jealous

[dim dew]

i got all the way to them the first time i made it to elysium

died, but still

took me 2 or 3 tries to finally get them i think

[polar smelt]

Elysium kicked my ass more than the final boss

[leaden whale]

Damn

[devout quartz]

elysium is a true test

[dim dew]

tbh elysium i think is my favorite area to fight in

[leaden whale]

It really is tho

So pretty too

[dim dew]

tartarus is kinda boring atp, asphodel is horrible

[devout quartz]

back in beta also was the real gate for the time limit heat

[dim dew]

real talk though, meeting ||patroclus|| can be the difference between life and death

[leaden whale]

And thats usually by luck.

[dim dew]

whenever i get to one of the unique chambers i always feel so relieved

[leaden whale]

Same

I love vibing with Eurydice

[waxen crown]

Same

[dim dew]

eurydice's song is just

yes

[leaden whale]

yes

[dim dew]

patroclus too, like he's just vibing

[waxen crown]

and sysiphus is just kinda there too

[dim dew]

sisyphus is just there but he's alright

[weary vector]

I imagine that Sisyphus is truly happy

[leaden whale]

But patrolclus just says "Take your stuff and leave"

[dim dew]

im just waiting to get the patroclus/achilles favor

[waxen crown]

||bouldy is best||

[leaden whale]

same

[dim dew]

||because i want them to be together already||

||now kiss||

[leaden whale]

Same for Eurydice and Orpheus

[polar smelt]

just a btw most of this would be considered spoilers in this channel

[waxen crown]

oh no sry

[leaden whale]

O-o. Oops

[dim dew]

oh

#h1-story-discussion then ig?

[polar smelt]

[leaden whale]

Ye

[waxen crown]

yeah ig

[polar smelt]

anything that's primarily only accessible after some clears needs to be ||spoilered||

(or only accessible)

[long moss]

I JUST BEAT HYDRA FOR THE FIRST TIME
GUNS ARE AWESOME

[leaden whale]

Good job! :)

[blazing trout]

Nice (:

[dim dew]

good job

:)

[polar smelt]

👏

[waxen crown]

guns are always the answer

[sleek axle]

Hell yeah brother KKona

[long moss]

elysium why does that sound familiar

[polar smelt]

because it's been mentioned over 1000 times in this channel?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/740189405838573638/801236679444660284/unknown.png

[weary vector]

@mich...

[long moss]

that's not why

I know it from greek mythology

but idr what it is

[sleek axle]

That's where all the heroes and great people go

[dim dew]

it's like underworld heaven

it's where the people who lived epic lives go

[long moss]

oh I def know it then

[polar smelt]

?

[weary vector]

I'm not going to be the 1,018th @

That's a lame number for arbitrary reasons I've decided on

[fluid yoke]

elysium

[long moss]

lol

[opaque aurora]

How long after max nectar does it take for || Meg to show up in zag’s room?||

Do I have to keep beating the ||fury each run?||

[dim dew]

i think so