So survive
#h1-for-new-players
fresh current
worldly vigil
okay any tips other than distance?
rich cave
Dash a lot
worldly vigil
that tends to help
fresh current
Big purple blobs will be summoned from the perimeter
rich cave
Dash through them
worldly vigil
okay cool
fresh current
Dash through them
Let me be specific for him, dash into them
Never away
That is the roguelike law of the jungle
Dash into and behind danger
Never run away unless it's the right move
Like final boss attack
rich cave
You have to time it well though because those projectiles are thicc
rich cave
Like final boss attack
Spoiler that please
fresh current
Sorry
worldly vigil
ayyy I did it
worldly vigil
only one
rich cave
Nice
worldly vigil
but flame wheel just cost second lol
fresh current
Outstanding move
worldly vigil
it was v close to the second ig
fresh current
If you lose 3 and win that fight its still worth
You can always buy DDs back
The gold and % is huge
worldly vigil
yeah I can see that now
fresh current
Play on your back foot now until you get stable again, but you just did great things for your run
worldly vigil
bruh I hate it when I get the wrong duo
was about to be so excited and then I get calculated risk
and now I get splitting headache from artemis
ig not bad, but I don't have artemis on anything other than cast lol
dull marten
steam’s lunar new year sale is next month wahoooo
time to buy hades so i am not at the mercy of a shared steam library LOL
sly vigil
Nah just wait
Buy Hades $5 off.
Then use the $5 to buy the Bastion Transistor bundle if you didn't have that
#value
severe gazelle
Like final boss attack
wait whatt
you have to explain this to me right now
what do you mean i need to dash threw his attacks
worldly vigil
If you dash through something you don't take damage if you do it at the right time
even without a boon
dull marten
Then use the $5 to buy the Bastion Transistor bundle if you didn't have that
lolol
five bucks is still five bucks i suppose
dull marten
yeah i’m planning to buy it during lunar new year sale
even if it is only five dollars off
also would anyone happen to know if my save file will transfer since i’m playing from a shared library
worldly vigil
I believe it will
dull marten
nice
worldly vigil
I could be wrong tho
sly vigil
It definitely will
If anything Hades is DRM free completely
Not saying anything but you don't even have to buy it to make your own copy
But you won't have it on Steam obviously
worldly vigil
I was going to recomend that but wasn't sure if it was allowed here lol
sly vigil
Just leave it at that
dull marten
lol for sure
i am amazed that there’s so much of the game i haven’t seen yet
i was looking through the wiki last night and the stuff you can do with high heat runs is crazy
dull marten
i’m not sure if i can talk abt it here since it’s new players LOL but look up || pact of punishment || if you’re curious
worldly vigil
ah for some reason I thought it said health instead of ||heat||
dull marten
oh haha
severe gazelle
wait does supergiant have more games that are as cool as hades?
dull marten
i’ve heard very good things about bastion and transistor
severe gazelle
i will check them on youtube
severe gazelle
transistor look so much like hades
fresh current
But it invented SGG for chrissake
severe gazelle
maybe iwill enjoy it
fresh current
Transistor i couldn't get into
Combat is much much slower and the story is much more abstract
Cool kids love Pyre though
severe gazelle
hmm let me see
fresh current
Come on and SLAM and welcome to the DYSTOPIC FANTASY LAND OF SACRED RITES AND HEART RENDING CHARACTER MOMENTS
sly vigil
wait does supergiant have more games that are as cool as hades?
All of their previous game contributed to Hades
severe gazelle
ye this is my type or games i like it
fresh current
It's a great fantasy story
stray terrace
pyre for switch when
fresh current
pyre for switch when
I hold out hope
silk swift
Narrator in Hades plz
fresh current
I have never ever ever talked more vile trash to a computer than when I played pyre
Like, roasting the other team
Not a lot of games being that out in me, it was really fun
fresh current
Narrator in Hades plz
"Now this is the story of a kid who's on his way out. They say it can't be done, but he knows he'll die trying if he has to"
He walks out the door, into the belly of tartarus itself. Going up
He finds a shield, old thing. Gives it a couple swings to test its heft
"This'll do"
Oof i need it now
Narrator DLC
hollow ledge
What happens when you fight ||Charon ||?
analog radish
but then i realised this isn't general chat
analog radish
What happens when you fight ||Charon ||?
u will get a ||discount||
i think its 30%
hollow ledge
How hard is it?
analog radish
well
||he hits like a truck||
||expect to lose some of your dds||
||hes projectiles are rather slow||
||but hes sweep attack has big range and speed||
hollow ledge
I died
analog radish
welp
fresh current
so
that fight
as you have learned, is not for the faint of heart
however, i will tell you
if you lose all of your death defiances, but still win that fight, its still a victory
because the discount persists for the rest of the run
fresh current
which effectively makes the prize alone worth an extra 60 gold
analog radish
also
fresh current
you can buy back death defiances
its risky but anything up to death is worth it for that fight
as long as you can walk out of there
opaque aurora
Wait, when do you fight ||charon||
Is it after you beat the final boss at least once?
fresh current
nah infinity one isnt the way to go
until you're way, way into the postgame
more is better, trust
prisma hinge
Wait, when do you fight ||charon||
||I believe it's after you beat Hades once. When you enter his mid area shop, you will see a bag of gold that you will need to take to initiate the battle||
opaque aurora
Ah ok thanks
fresh current
play what you like but when the difficulty starts ratcheting up on you you're going to want those 3 back
then it gets really, really impossible you go back to having one again
severe gazelle
can you get multiple Duos?
fresh current
but you're a different player at that point
yup
you can get anything under the sun if RNGesus permits it
opaque aurora
Would y’all suggest that once you ||beat hades and escape|| use the darkness from the ||prophesy|| to get the third dd?
opaque aurora
Ok thx
fresh current
getting that done lets you take skelly tooth off basically
opaque aurora
Cause I have 2 and I almost beat him
fresh current
and make your runs more powerful
though if if you feel comfy running two DDs for the first part of the game you really only want the extra security of tooth for styx and beyond
so you can take it late
and use the early parts of the game for other keepsakes to get buff
morning announcement to new players channel: Your entire mirror should pretty much be purple, save for the green money perk for farming. some later mirror perks can be green on preference, but keep your mirror purple starting out and you cant go wrong
opaque aurora
Well I actually had both dd for the fight with ||hades|| and then he ||respawned stronger and more powerful and crushed me lol||
fresh current
welcome to the game 😘
the second part of that fight is actually a little easier once youre used to it imo
he doesnt have any damage interrupts
stray terrace
invest into your dds asap yeah
opaque aurora
Lol thanks
fresh current
if anyone here wants to go see it check the boasting channel, i just put it there
sly vigil
No
worldly vigil
totally empty
opaque aurora
cinder cliff
||so i maxed hearts with meg and nothing happened since 5 runs||
||while dusa already gave me her pet||
am i supposed to do smth
fresh current
||meg will give you a pet before long don't worry 
||
cinder cliff
fresh current
oh it'll be worth the wait
weary vector
Is this the best place for asking for final boss advice? || Hades... if this is really a spoiler for a game called Hades || is a bit tough for me so far. Best attempt of my 3(?) was with the shield where I got to phase 2 and was annihilated
weary vector
I did notice that there was always a bit of a wind up for some things
Like foot steps in the snow or a little flash before a spin
cinder cliff
yes, most importantly his big spin
there's a white outline
i recommend getting hermes boons
like more dashes or movement speed after dash
so you can just get away from him
or you can just tank that with shield with the bull rush
stray terrace
||you can block all of his attacks (except for the pots) if that helps||
||maybe the pots too||
weary vector
Do you think it's worth using the Hermes keepsake then? It feels like I always get normal rarity boons for him
Dunno if that's deliberate or not
stray terrace
hermes keepsake is different from all the other god keepsakes
it has a different effect from summoning a god
coral kernel
i'm not sure i understand the difference between "Seeking Fire" and "Ricochet Fire"
coral kernel
Ricochet Fire: Your Attack bounces to 1 additional foe
Seeking Fire: Your Attack seeks the nearest foe and deals +10% damage
I'm using an adamant rail with the zeus lighting bounce boon fyi
stray terrace
sounds like ricochet fire allows your shot to hit another foe as if you had fired on them as well
coral kernel
I imagine Seeking Fire will allow my attacks to bounce to multiple targets vs just the +1 of Ricochet Fire
OH wait
no you're right
i misread Seeking Fire
stray terrace
seems like seeking fire doesnt have any sort of bounce effect
coral kernel
I keept thinking it was along the lines of "you shoot another bullet that seeks the nearest foe"
coral kernel
it's just the same bullet -_- haha i was staring at this for 10 minutes
i guess so
so the +1 bounce is probably better in this case
my 3rd option is explosive fire, would this synergize with the rail gun + zeus?
stray terrace
what exactly is explosive fire again?
coral kernel
"your attack deals damage in an area and briefly slows foes"
stray terrace
i think either of the first two would be good with zeus on attack
coral kernel
i imagine that could be more powerful but i don't know if it will impact my attack speed
okay, i think i'll give seeking fire a shot then, curious to see how the homing shots work with the rail gun
Thanks for your help!
stray terrace
eh
tranquil escarp
I think I'm going to try a run with Aspect of Achilles for the spear.
I think doom could work well. Crit is always nice. Any other thoughts for boons that would work well?
weary vector
I think I've figured this out by now but do you only get a set of potential gods and thus boons per run? And what happens if you switch to a god's keepsake at level checkpoints
tranquil escarp
It does seem that the game's RNG tries to favor specific gods so you can build up their abilities.
sly vigil
Almost all the times, you have a pool of 4 gods naturally
tranquil escarp
You can switch god keepsakes in between boss fights and the boons still work.
sly vigil
If you force a new god, one of the old 4 will be forced out and will not appear again.
weary vector
What I mean is can you add say Artemis to the pool if she wasn't one of your OG gods
By equipping her keepsake
sly vigil
yup
tranquil escarp
You're replacing someone else with Artemis, it sounds like. Not adding her.
weary vector
Aw right didn't read your reply before I wrote that
fresh current
@tranquil escarp Aphro is always good for achilles
sly vigil
Recently I learnt that there are exceptions to the 4 pool max but it's rare so for all intents and purposes, just think of it as 4.
fresh current
teleport behind em and unload 3 rounds of nothin personell kid
tranquil escarp
@fresh current lol that sounds like a fun combo.
weary vector
Doesn't really matter since Duo boons are rare enough they don't seem like something to bank on getting but are they based on who you have in your pool as well?
tranquil escarp
I'm not used to using the special too often for the spear so I'll see how well I do.
fresh current
you just need the right mirror stuff
special is a must for achilles
special is what achilles is built around
tranquil escarp
Oh definitely.
fresh current
or rather, the boon it enables
tranquil escarp
That's... what the Achilles aspect is all about.
fresh current
buff*
tranquil escarp
Hahahaha
fresh current
when i say "bank" i mean "give yourself damn good fighting odds"
weary vector
you just need the right mirror stuff
Is that the +boon rarity% mirror buff?
fresh current
of acquiring at least one duo that you're looking for
that and Fated Authority/Persuasion
mostly persuasion for duo hunting
mostly persuasion in general
though i am one of the few FA stans aroudn here for some things
the one that says +10% for legendaries and duos
tranquil escarp
Detmer + Artemis duo is so nice when you have the beam firing crystal from Demeter.
fresh current
i promise, it does not feel like 10%
tranquil escarp
sniper crystals
fresh current
I've had gods be practically persistent about trying to give me duo boons before
tranquil escarp
i promise, it does **not** feel like 10%
In a good way?
fresh current
no dionysis i do not want your artemis duo please show me bad influence kthx
dusk elk
weary vector
I take it's worth reading the Duo descriptions in the journal if I were to try rigging for them then
fresh current
yes
tranquil escarp
Yup!
fresh current
take close notes of what boons you need to acquire to construct the run as you need
and chase after that
for instance, ares is a great duo to hunt for with dionysis
fresh current
because Ares' revenge boon can enable the ares/dio duo without taking up a primary slot
tranquil escarp
Hmm let me see what the ares/ dio duo is.
fresh current
things like that are important to know. keep tabs on what boons you have and what that can enable for you. consult your codex early and often
dio ticks faster
weary vector
I think for the next few runs I'm going to focus on making an actual build since I can somewhat consistently get to Styx, since so far I've been going for 'fated choice' ones to get the prophecy goodies (to mixed results)
fresh current
great for dio based builds
and that little caveat allows you to put something else in a primary slot
tranquil escarp
OOoh neat
fresh current
which gives you 3 curses to work with now
details like that are why studying at least the duo portion of the codex closely is important during your run
weary vector
I didn't like Dionysus' boons at first but I've decided the DOT for some of the later bosses is nice
fresh current
yeah Dionysus is deceiving
dont let the little #s fool you, Dio is a greeeat all-round god
just make sure you only ever have one source of drunk damage when playing dio
for reasons
dont mix your wines
weary vector
|| Theseus || isn't actually that hard once you beat his buddy but he's annoyingly tanky
So getting some DOT for him is cool
fresh current
if you have drunk attack dont get drunk dash etc
dont cross the streams
but yes he is excellent
you can make whole builds around drunk damage all day long
fresh current
get some Aphro + dio together and reaaally get the party krunk
weary vector
Tempted to try that on my next run. Assuming I don't beat || Hades || this time 
All about confidence
fresh current
good luck!
weary vector
I'll wait till tomorrow but I feel like I'm on the right track
fresh current
just make sure to obey that rule with dio. even if it means you have to take what feels like a trash boon rather than fill up a primary slot
1 source of drunk damage, 1 only
If you're still trying you're going the right way!
weary vector
I really appreciate how the House characters are written to make you feel closer and closer to your goal every time, nice wee boost for the player
Thanks Achilles 
I took the basic Zagreus Aspect sword, any tips for optimising that?
fresh current
Uhmmmmm
For zag sword you have faster attack
So zeus gets better for that
Also Dio and demeter
I don't run zag sword much so someone can chime in
But nothing wrong with it
Cursed slash is also buffed by zag sword so that gets better
But I'm a cursed slash simp so I take it no matter what
For zag sword I would make sure to try and find some Hermes maybe
Lean into that attack speed boost
weary vector
Righto
I think the sword, shield and gloves of running urgently are my favourites so I want to try and beat the game with them first if possible
fresh current
Man, you have good taste
I like you
So, what's done is done but spend your very next blood on the zag shield
You'll love it
Zag shield is #1 noob weapon in the game
weary vector
There have been times where I've asked if the shield is actually fair
I was in Styx and was getting laser'd by 5 different crystal enemies and took no damage because of a dinky shield
fresh current
Yeah zag shield is nutty and they only improve from there
weary vector
I quite like all of the weapons to be fair. Except maybe the rail
Dunno how I feel about the rail
fresh current
Put zeus on the rail and go dakka dakka dakka
flint pulsar
Rail takes getting used too
weary vector
That's what I thought
Like it didn't seem bad but there was some... frustrating... situations with it
tranquil escarp
I purchased a key from Charon thinking it would give me a reroll. It did not.
fresh current
Nope sadly
tranquil escarp
I've been deceived! hahahaha
fresh current
But any items like keys darkness gems etc from Charon shops are always very good value early game
If you can afford
tranquil escarp
I only went shopping because I didn't want to fight for Aphrodite.
fresh current
With the purple 20% boost spending 25 gold on some darkness nets you 5x darkness rooms worth of product
Great deal
weary vector
I've been deceived! hahahaha
Didn't realise Odysseus was in this game
tranquil escarp
He sure is!
quartz beacon
Hi new to discord, pretty new to game. I want to unlock Arthur sword and have heard differing things. Do I need to have 5 blood invested in any sword aspect including zag aspect, or not including zag? I already have hidden spear and shield.
I am not interested in the nemesis or Poseidon aspects at this time and don’t want t waste blood on them if I don’t have to
leaden whale
i think it can be invested in Zagreus aspect, for the hidden sword.
leaden whale
Are you sure about that ? i think it was true only for the hidden spear, and other could be unlocked with Zag aspect.
leaden whale
yes, but that wasn't the question
woven stump
Heyy should I get that mirror buff that gives health per chamber or health per purple gem?
woven stump
Yeah
flint pulsar
Or you're struggling to survive
Since beaten bosses give you darkness
If you're moving up and going into higher rooms
woven stump
Thx
floral nacelle
I prefer hp per room personally because it'll heal you in the last biome
woven stump
I noticed some runs darkness is pretty thin, but plus three health per chamber is pretty nil
floral nacelle
but a bonus of using darkness to heal is that you can use some infernal troves to heal
not just using the troves that say they give health but also the ones that give darkness
woven stump
From where I am that's a little risky. Sometimes the trove challenges take too long or cause damage
quartz beacon
So yeah this is the same confusion I have had with the sword
woven stump
So I wouldn't assume a darkness trove would let net me health most of the time
quartz beacon
I think I can just put in 2 more tb just to be sure. I unlocked each non hidden aspect already
Just haven’t invested in the ones I don’t like
fresh current
one way or another the health per chamber perk works out to about 200-210 healed
for a 100% styx run
280 with aphro's +heal boon
FWIW
floral nacelle
I think aphro just gives you max health, it's ||demeter|| who gives you more potent heals
Spoilered because you only meet her after reaching the final boss once
polar smelt
I originally did cthonic vitality but I prefer darkness regen
hearty tulip
polar smelt
or you can highlight the text and hit the eye icon
surreal fog
Hey bit new to hades but loving my time with it so far, I'm on my 15th attempt just trying to get by ||cerbeus|| which makes me think I'm near the end
But the thing is checking my codex I still have one of the olympians as undiscovered, id have figured I must have discovered them all by now..
Is there one that is discovered later or am I just being an idiot and passing up a certain symbol
polar smelt
without spoiling, you'll uncover that person just a little beyond your current spot 🙂
surreal fog
Tidy cheers :)
potent bloom
Hi hades is single player?
polar smelt
yes
potent bloom
Ok thanks
abstract steeple
My bf got farther than I did much quicker xD
burnt shoal
Hey bit new to hades but loving my time with it so far, I'm on my 15th attempt j...
How tf did you get to cerberus on your 15th attempt
abstract steeple
But he's skipping some of the dialogue and it's driving me crazy
burnt shoal
It took me like 30 to get to styx
abstract steeple
He hits more of the environment twinkles than he talks to characters
burnt shoal
I was hooked on this game on like the second attempt
polar smelt
It took me like 30 to get to styx
Everyone goes at their own pace, been people who didn't get their first clear till 70s, others who cleared in 10-15
no shame in that, single player game
just have fun, learn from each run
and keep improving
burnt shoal
I got my first clear around 36
polar smelt
abstract steeple
Is there one that is discovered later or am I just being an idiot and passing up...
I'm pretty sure you find ||the last olympian just after completing your first run|| which is ||just after cerberus and the final boss||
burnt shoal
Yeah
polar smelt
I'm pretty sure you find ||the last olympian just after completing your first ru...
not 100% accurate, you ||don't need to defeat hades, only reach||
but I left that part out to avoid spoiling it 
burnt shoal
Reaching the final boss will give you a lot of things
abstract steeple
Thanks for correcting me, I couldn't recall
burnt shoal
Like access to a lot of things
surreal fog
but I left that part out to avoid spoiling it <a:akek:540083607235198998>
Won't be revealing that box then lmao ty
abstract steeple
Keep in mind not every run is equal. I prioritize my fate list when running so I have suboptimal boons sometimes.
burnt shoal
Although I don't really like the last olympian boons
polar smelt
Won't be revealing that box then lmao ty
yup, until you get your first clear I'd avoid all spoiler boxes like the plague
abstract steeple
omg I do
humble ore
Yeah I’m not a fan of the last ones boons
burnt shoal
@surreal fog what weapon do you use?
abstract steeple
I got my first clear with ||Crystal Beam||
polar smelt
||demeter|| has really good cast synergy
burnt shoal
Bcs eris + zeus is overpowered
polar smelt
eris rail do be pretty bonkers
burnt shoal
I am really starting to like nemesis sword
abstract steeple
||Crystal Beam|| and ||Crystal Clarity||, to be more specific
humble ore
I got my first with the ME combo with divine dash on fists
burnt shoal
I just got the hammer where every time you attack you regain 2 health
abstract steeple
omg I want that
abstract steeple
o
polar smelt
I got my first with the ME combo with divine dash on fists
none of this would be a spoiler
cursed slash is a meme,
I don't believe it works with dash-strikes, which is what sword users should be doing
signal pine
cursed slash is a meme,
I don't *believe* it works with dash-strikes, which is ...
this is true
which is unfortunate
fresh current
I love cursed slash and I will die on that hill
I have a thing for anything that actively let's you regen health in roguelikes
No matter how bad
polar smelt
okay I want you to run hidden sword with cursed slash and win 
errant bramble
Yeah cursed slash is bad. People think it’s good /shrug
burnt shoal
Does anybody know how to set the in game timer?
Cursed slash is decent
I regret taking it but its not bad
worldly vigil
If you mean turn it on its in settings
polar smelt
i didn't know that tbh, I always judged my runs based off ||tight deadline||
burnt shoal
Same
Also in a previous run I literally lightning rodded ||Hades||
I didn't know it worked so well
worldly vigil
for clean kill (crit effects do more damage) does it mean attack with crit boon does more damage or a critical strike does more damage?
polar smelt
the crit strike itself
surreal fog
With keepsake mechanics, if I were to use a keepsake for the first part of my run that say increased my damage % after every chamber, and then switch to a keepstake that boosted death defiance near the end
Would I keep that damage % after the switch?
Atm the first nectar I gave was ||to skelly|| and I've never changed keepstakes since
polar smelt
No, once you remove the keepsake the bonuses are gone as well
polar smelt
what people generally do is start with keepsakes to benefit their build (gods) in tartarus and asphodel
then swap to defensive ones in elysium/styx
owl pendant if people want divine dash/acorn/tooth
fresh current
Yeah skelly tooth in particular is important for new players
polar smelt
tbh once I got acorn I used that
fresh current
It's a real good bandaid for that 3rd DD
polar smelt
I prefer blocking 5 bits of damage over 77hp
considering final boss' swing deals 30?
worldly vigil
how is concatenated volley allowed with chiron bow
fresh current
fair, skelly is the more generalist pick for me
worldly vigil
seems too broken lol
polar smelt
how is concatenated volley allowed with chiron bow
it's pretty nutty
fresh current
Where you still may be struggling with styx
polar smelt
how is concatenated volley allowed with chiron bow
just wait till you see relentless volley
fresh current
Also covering up that hole for a 3rd DD is important to me until you can afford it properly
@worldly vigil wait till you see both
worldly vigil
I've gotten relentless once as well
I only have one hammer this run... really hoping to see the other lol
I wish I could use dice on hammers
polar smelt
if you find hammer on tartarus you'll also find it on elysium
fresh current
Also, general advice, if you’re ever at a hammer and struggling to make a choice, if you can take armor shredding you almost always should
If none of them feel particularly right for your build and you have the option to just take the armor damage you should do so, rather than try to shoehorn in some other hammer that won't work for you
errant bramble
Someone told me Concentrated Volley is more dps than relentless unless you have like Dio special for example
But I have no justification for that besides what I was told hah
polar smelt
I have zero frame of reference other than more arrows = more damage
worldly vigil
any tips on fighting bull? His second phase really messes with me in Elysium boss fight
polar smelt
You can dash through most of his damage
As with most things in this game, dash through not away/side
errant bramble
Kill bull first, kill man after.
worldly vigil
yeah ofc, but I take so much dmg during bull fight
errant bramble
Theseus does 2 things. He either spin2win if you stand near him which is annoying. Or he throws spear. Dodge the spear, double dash at his back, stab him, run away, repeat
Yeah as other person said, dash through bull instead of sideways helps a lot.
fresh current
Tips for fighting bull
Pretend you are fighting an actual bull
As in you need to learn to be a matador
Because he will put your **** in the ground
Take the mini boss fight with him every time
When he charges, learn to Ole him
I’m not joking
Hang out by one of the circle pillars and ole ole ole
Until he crashes into it
When he is bull rushing you
Otherwise remember his attack pattern is powerful and ranged
But limited and telegraphed
It’s only ever either 3 swings and a leap or multiple leaps
All of which are telegraphed
Learn to be dodging at the last possible second
If it helps, train yourself to let off the left stick and hold still as a statue until you absolutely need to dash, say, when he’s coming in for a slam
Respect Asterius
I play smash and asterius is a lot like my main, ganondorf
Tremendous damage, tremendous range
But very telegraphed moves
The secret is to sneak in between those points and exercise patience when its not a good time to attack
Because He Will Kill You
fresh current
Detailed technical explanation in simplistic terms is in my blood, part of a past life of mine
Happy to help
errant bramble
Also, when he swings twice and leaps. The leap location is like...Locked in basically. So if you time it right he’ll leap to where you were like 20 seconds ago
rigid turret
Guys I have a question why do I keep getting darkness instead of the boss items when I beat a boss? I’ve ran by the hydra about 10 times without getting any crystals
fresh current
You need to add more post game difficulty
polar smelt
You get the unique reward once until you ^^^
rigid turret
What do you mean?
worldly vigil
if you haven't gotten your first clear worry about that first
fresh current
Rewards are paid out by each successive level
rigid turret
I haven’t cleared the game yet
rigid turret
Okay thanks
fresh current
Git gud son
polar smelt
Getting darkness is actually nice if you have dark regeneration on
Nice little hp top up
fresh current
Yeah not a bad play
Good for farming runs, nice steady health juice
Though I never take the room reward health off cause I'm a basic ****
fresh current
But there comes a point where as long as you're getting some kind of health back it doesn't really matter
Is shadow presence backstab
worldly vigil
yeah
polar smelt
50% backstab damage vs 75% first hit damage
fresh current
That is one of those ones that I would never consider and I think they really didn't have any good ideas to impliment an alternative for the green one
Like it feels just straight worse
But I could see how it would be useful to someone of your persuasion
75% is a good amount for chonky weapons
But I do find backstab more consistent
floral nacelle
I think even if I’m not trying that hard for backstabs, I get more backstabs naturally
fresh current
Yeah
floral nacelle
Especially since you have to in elysium
fresh current
Even by accident
I hope they retouch some of the green perks sometime
They seem like such edge cases for high, high difficulty
Maybe I'm missing something though, always possible
I think I’m gonna start a fresh file and go through things again and record some of my thoughts
It really surprises me there’s not a little mini nublet bible already written somewhere
errant bramble
I think the bonus dmg on undamaged enemies is maybe a speed run thing? Dunno
errant bramble
Fair lol
fresh current
Like fiery presence is the perfect green perk for me in this game
Really useful for a very limited, narrow set of circumstances that only can combine lategame
And pretty cheeks outside of that
Bottom 3 dont count obv
And the money green perk is interchangeable
But the rest
Dont take this as an @ at you either Michael
A lot of the green perks in this game genuinely confuse me, especially with how useful their purple counterparts are
polar smelt
aight i'm gonna take that as a personal attack then
fresh current
It’s like SSG kinda ran out of ideas somewhere along the line, blessed be their names
But idk I’m not a game developer
vivid patio
each one has their uses 🤨
though a lot are admittedly very situational
but i kinda think that was the point
tranquil escarp
Got my seventh final boss fight victory into the books. :) I might be able to get the 10th tonight.
polar smelt
earnest lotus
is there any way to take back titan blood i spent on an upgrade? i blew it all on the bow not knowing what i was doing
tranquil escarp
It's too late if you leave the weapons room and saved the game.
earnest lotus
dang
polar smelt
you'll get plenty in time 👍
sly vigil
Yo are sol
tranquil escarp
Titan's Blood gets easier to come by as you progress through the game.
earnest lotus
coolio
tranquil escarp
I usually come back with at least 3 each run.
earnest lotus
i just spent some ambrosia on some titan blood, was that a good trade?
tranquil escarp
I do that too.
1:1 exchange.
I'm not too worried with the character relationships right now. I have more fun unlocking the weapon abilities. :)
polar smelt
I got waifu maxed and that's all that matters
fresh current
Yes actually
Based on my results
As long as you hunt down that fated list
Feel free to spend a little extra ambrosia if it buys you that last crucial blood
Don't feel bad about it
You run out of things to do with ambrosia long before blood
I would go so far as to say you can trade at around a 1:3 or 4 ratio
So for every 3 or 4 ambrosia don't feel bad putting one into blood as a rule of thumb
And that's being conservative I think
Actually I want to have a civil debate and talk about this
So I understand more
I'll go to build channel
abstract steeple
i just spent some ambrosia on some titan blood, was that a good trade?
I do the same thing. I'll spend resources I won't need for a while on stuff I use right away. call me impatient lol
muted latch
if you get all available ambrosia from runs, after maxing out everything that needs it you will have a dozen left over
I'd say about 1/4?
fresh current
I didn't count, and like I said I killed the fated list like a terminator so I had lots to play with, but i had a lot of extra ambrosia to blow on 100%ing weapons after I had smooched everyone I needed to
muted latch
yeah you actually dont need that much if you just are going for side story completion and not full bonds
full bond with everyone + max ||companion|| I think is in the 100s ballpark? didnt bother to check for everyone
full ambrosia from runs + a couple quite easily obtained fates easily nets you 150+
fresh current
I was that nerd that did all the full bonds and everything 🙈
Game spits ambrosia at you, jus sayin
elfin horizon
i traded in all my ambrosia for titan blood for so long bcuz i thought it was useless on its own lol
needless to say, don't do that
is a bad idea
sleek axle
lol
fresh current
Lol yeah don't
fluid yoke
yeah
you'll run out of really important uses for ambrosia eventually but until then keep hold of the vast majority of it
fresh current
Correct. Only spend a little on blood as you go along. One in three Max
worldly vigil
Does anyone know how much Sisyphus's ||contract|| costs
old escarp
Does anyone know how much Sisyphus's ||contract|| costs
Should be 4
worldly vigil
okay ty
keen oracle
Every interaction between zagreus and asterius just makes me wish I could give nectar to asterius
worldly vigil
I feel so bad for him
fresh current
No no it’s cool you don’t have to
Theseus and asterius are a weird kind of bonded couple
Theseus is a tool but there’s something asterius sees in him
Asterius is cool with it
fresh current
@worldly vigil buff Sisyphus as quick as you can
flint pulsar
he's really nice to you
flint pulsar
yea
fresh current
Even when he knows he is flawed
worldly vigil
<@313394788583997440> buff Sisyphus as quick as you can
I have him pumped full of nectar
fresh current
And even helps repair their relationship
flint pulsar
he literally sticks by the guy that's annoying as hell and killed him
fresh current
Good
flint pulsar
ah/
worldly vigil
yeah but how does one come to get it lol
fresh current
It is such an A+ all rounder button
EAIKP
Wish I had a better answer for you. But that is the answer. That is all answers.
Every answer is keep playing
flint pulsar
I was his ||companion|| so bad
you need to ||talk to nyx after you've unlocked the admin room and have nyx at 5 hearts, along with like than and meg and a few other people and then nyx will give u accsess to free sisyphus, along with orpheus||
sorry for really spoilery
message
along with slow response time
fresh current
There we go, thank you
flint pulsar
yup
I don't remember which ones you need to raise in particular
but ik for a fact u gotta get nyx 5 hearts
probably like ||meg and than lots of hearts||
worldly vigil
ah okay I don't have any in than
from what I have seen, there is no exact consensus lol
I have looked at a bunch of different sources
fresh current
I know my answers are all confuciany, but what I mean when I say EAIKP is if you encounter a cap somewhere, keep putting your resources somewhere else and keep investing in your story. Sooner or later, if you keep yourself on the loop the game will show you what you’re looking for
fresh current
On a separate subject, I know I do a lot of talking up of zag shield In this channel, and I wanted to take a run to put my money where my mouth is
I dont want to risk spoilers, so I put a screen of the build in victory boasting and ill put the link in here
This is what I mean when I say Zag shield is a great beginner weapon, powerful and flexible
Look at that build, that’s actually a pretty cobbled together build. It has a few basic elements, applied in the right places and it gets a lot done
worldly vigil
okay but like chaos shield with doom..
flint pulsar
but like literally bascially any build in this game
fresh current
Athena attack, athena is tied for the second highest damage % attack buff in the game, and her reflect capability is arguably the best defensive pick in this game
north quail
7 clears streak
11 clears in total
old escarp
Congrats veyzz
toxic hamlet
well
flint pulsar
I suggest zeus attack
and aphro special
triple bomb is always good
along with cluster and rocket
delta chamber is slept on
toxic hamlet
guess i can't ask how to make whats his name who is with asterius go down easy while also insulting him
flint pulsar
and with zag aspect spread fire is pretty good
lmao
we've all been there
so when thesus get's down to half health he starts calling for the gods
and at that point he is completely weak (after invincibility sheild)
for a short period of time
that's where you can burst him down with usually a greater call
north quail
i just hate the reloading + small dps
flint pulsar
it's not small ;p
north quail
but thanks for advice
flint pulsar
yea
but definitely try out zeus attacj
it'll make a huge impact on dps
it literally 2.5x your dps
if you get epic zues attack at level 0
north quail
i was using aspect of eris
it was recommended by a lot of people
dusk dove
ive already beat the main story, ive also attempted a few runs after that, || but i havent got the resource director in hades chambers yet. || what are the prerequisites to unlock this
old escarp
ive already beat the main story, ive also attempted a few runs after that, || bu...
||You should be eligible for it, just keep talking to Hades after each run||
dusk dove
||You should be eligible for it, just keep talking to Hades after each run||
thank you, || i did hear that it was locked behind some dialogue but i wasnt sure how accurate it was, must be true haha ||
polar smelt
when in doubt, if there's an exclamation mark, talk
toxic hamlet
that's where you can burst him down with usually a greater call
thanks for the tip!
flint pulsar
anytime!
also there's a crosshair
for when he throws his spear
on you
that's pink
and get's darker when it's close to firing
and another thing is if you're within melee range he will spin attack, so use that info
abstract steeple
are there best mirror of night skills?
Because I'd really like to not spend any more keys on refreshing it lol
flint pulsar
eh
depends
also ur gonna get a lot of keys/gemstones
in the future
so after getting all the weapons
spend all the keys you want
abstract steeple
I don't have enough gemstones 😦
I want more
I wanna buy some of the cosmetics but the other stuff is so expensive
flint pulsar
but for newer players I suggest cthonic in general, dark regeneration if you're taking a lot of damages after bossfights (after beating them cause they give darkness), greater reflexes, death defiance, shadow presences, thick skin, deep pockets, stygian soul, privileged status is actually so op and amazing, boiling blood, dark foresight, gods pride/gods legacy is preference, and usually fated persuasiion
for begginers
of course later onto the game when you unlock ||heat mechanic|| you may want to change a few things
or if you just get good
I hope this helps ya
abstract steeple
I'm already on god mode and still failing xD
flint pulsar
naw don't worry about it!
enjoy they game how you want
it's amazing
the plot and charecters and interactions
just mwah
top tier game enjoyable no matter how you play it
well then, as skelly would say; "goodluck boyo"
abstract steeple
The art and the writing are definitely amazing
And I love how each of the mechanics gently nudge you to get better at the game, or to use more variety in your runs
dapper trail
Meg got me....She was at 25 percent..her circle attacks are ridiculous
polar smelt
you'll learn in time how to recognize when those attacks are coming
and respond appropriately
good job for reaching meg though 
muted latch
the circle attack has a quite long delay before damaging you so just dodge out of the way
if you are having trouble staying alive there, prioritize taking out the adds she summon
craggy sundial
Meg got me....She was at 25 percent..her circle attacks are ridiculous
just dash 😎
north quail
i was at styx
spoiler?
uneven ledge
anything that you can unlock upon getting to the final boss is also a spoiler
it's just everything after the final boss it's not so bad
plus there's the other channels
north quail
somebody tells me to spoil stuff like keepsakes, styx or some aspects
so i'm always confused
on what to spoil
uneven ledge
hidden aspects and anything unlock when you get to and past the final boss are spoilers
north quail
talking about hidden aspects
||unlocked 3 today: spear, fists and blade||
sleek axle
It's a secret kiwi
craggy sundial
okay
dapper trail
just dash 😎
Thank you Mr Helpful :|
north quail
sadly lost my 7 clears strike
craggy sundial
Thank you Mr Helpful :|
what?
its literally what ur supposed to do during her circle attacks
sleek axle
He thanked you for your advice
craggy sundial
just dash
sleek axle
Ain't much to it
dapper trail
Ik
uneven ledge
i mean you can literally just dash to avoid damage since it has i-frames
craggy sundial
yes
sleek axle
I mean 'just dash' isn't too helpful and def comes off as sarcastic my guy
north quail
you either dash or kill her before she can do some serious damage
you have a fountain after so it's not too bad
dapper trail
The problem is u cannot beat anything, while you are fighting a witch who is annoying you, the circles just come and u have to run
The whole time you are running and cannot hit her
north quail
The problem is u cannot beat anything, while you are fighting a witch who is ann...
don't fight the witch then, use your cast on it
dapper trail
don't fight the witch then, use your cast on it
I can try that I gues
muted latch
even with a melee weapon, you have a range option in cast
north quail
I can try that I gues
what weapon do you play?
muted latch
also all the melee weapons in the game have a longer range than you think
also dash strike
all dash strike on the melee weapons significantly increases their range
uneven ledge
even if you're not using a build that relies on cast at all you might as well use it for boiling blood
north quail
if it's a melee weapon you can use athena's boons
just ignore all the enemies but the boss itself, they will die from deflection
uneven ledge
prioritize greater reflex and then dd
north quail
can't help if it's a range weapon
i suck at rail and i'm not as good at bow as i'm not the other weapons
muted latch
greater reflex - 2nd DD - after unlocking all weapons stock keys to unlock additional mirror talents asap
craggy sundial
Good
severe gazelle
looool
i just unlocked all weapons and everything in the mirror
and complete a quest to get 30 bonus keys
now what i do with 30 keys
severe gazelle
los tat the final boss AGAIN
I WAS SO CLOSE
I HAD GOOD BOONS
wow quests and keys give so much titan blood
i just got 4
3 from zeus mission and 1 for 15 keys
severe gazelle
timer display don't make me lose if i don't reach in time right?
severe gazelle
no its called timer displayer
muted latch
that's just a timer
nothing else
it simply displays how long you have been on this run
valid mauve
Any suggestions on how to get more nectar? Trying to get my relationships with the olympic deities up but I'm running low on nectar
valid mauve
Sounds like a plan. I'll see what I can scrounge up
muted latch
you should be swimming in extra keys once you get all weapons and all mirror talents so feel free to trade them away
valid mauve
In full honesty, I may no longer be considered a new player after having already crossed the credits...
But yes, I've some keys to spare
muted latch
||credits is actually only about half or a bit over half of the game anyway||
severe gazelle
FIRST RUN COMPLETED
north quail
gg!
severe gazelle
:D
i beat him after reaching his 6 times
i was about ot beat him at the first time
butttt i died at litterly the last hit
cinder cliff
when does charon's ||sack|| appear
unreal eagle
@cinder cliff once you reach the final boss
You don't need to defeat it
Just need to reach it
unreal eagle
Oh specific timing?
cinder cliff
yes
muted latch
||only appears in mid biome shops and it's 1/3 chance||
muted latch
two shops spawn every area, one halfway through and one guaranteed before the boss room, the later will never spawn the purse
cinder cliff
why i can't give megaera ||ambrosia|| 
weary vector
Made it to the final boss with the shield, two death defies and 215 hp
Please be the one
weary vector
HECK
Nearly had him but messed up by putting my shield up in the wrong direction
Got annihilated by the || lava laser thing ||
uneven ledge
when in doubt, hug your ||dad||
fresh current
yaaaay good job @severe gazelle
yes aphro OP
love conquers all
and yes her call specifically is great for bosses
does mondo damage whether you find it at common or epic
yes @weary vector
||dad|| love during ||laser phase|| is very important. really get in there. heal up those tattered family bonds.
he'll be so appreciative of your kind gesture you wont even take any damage
weary vector
Interesting
Hoping I can make it past || Theseus || here with 3 death defies but we shall see
uneven ledge
Interesting
seriously when he's doing his ||360 lasers you can stand riiight there next to him and just wail on him without taking damage, although it's very dangerous and risky||
surreal fog
Yooo so just at my second attempt at ||hades|| wipe the health bar, with 7 health left am absolutely celebrating then my guy drops dead
uneven ledge
aha...
surreal fog
||Someone tell me there is a second phase and there was just something I didn't see?||
uneven ledge
go on
surreal fog
And i didnt just lose my first win
uneven ledge
anything related to the final boss besides "final boss" is a spoiler
surreal fog
||A rephrase because I don't want to be spoilt, after dropping his health, was there more to do but because I was so low health I didn't get to see||
Yes or no is fine I don't want an in depth
uneven ledge
||yeah there's a second phase lmao||
surreal fog
Ah cheers Ffs lmao
weary vector
The surprise || second phase of Hades seems to mess everyone about the first time ||
I'm taking a break but I'm really feeling this attempt
gentle anvil
hello everyone, i just got hades a few days ago and i'm LOVING it
i just beat the final boss at the 13 hours mark and it was great
14 escape attempts in total
fresh current
Great job! That’s a pretty hot first clear 👍🏻
gentle anvil
thank you :D
im going to try on my next run to use the bow which i never used before
fresh current
What weapons are you favoring?
gentle anvil
gun and shield
gentle anvil
i got the aspect of chiron for it so maybe it's gonna be better hopefully
fresh current
So is fun
Gun*
So chiron
On one hand
It's broken when upgraded
On the other hand
It's booty before that
As fun as chiron is I would tell you to put your first blood investment elsewhere
Cause chiron costs 15 to get fully online
And some of the zag aspects can be had for much cheaper than that
And I feel they're a much better value investment with your first blood
Gun zag is great
Shield zag is the top tier noob cannon
Both cost only 5 blood to Max
Fwiw
gentle anvil
i got the eris aspect for the gun and the hestia aspect, i prefer the eris aspect
fresh current
You will love chiron but it will take a while before its really where its meant to be
Eris is great
Zag is basically eris lite
main egret
i got the aspect of chiron for it so maybe it's gonna be better hopefully
get hera with artemis cast and artemis attack, best weapon ever
fresh current
Instead of applying a large buff to a smaller ammo pool, you get an unbuffed much larger pool
I'd say it equates to about 80-90% damage output
gentle anvil
oh wow i have enough darkness to max everything out on the mirror
well, everything that i have anyways
fresh current
Yeah unlock more lol
gentle anvil
i need 3 more keys for the next set of upgrades
fresh current
Prioritize keys early on
Get them weapons unlocked and that mirror open
Then switch to darkness and fill that mirror up
gentle anvil
im not sure if this is spoilers for this channel, but i unlocked the ||pact of punishment||?
everything seems scary here so i'll just go with ||tight deadline||
unreal eagle
Go || extreme measures||
fresh current
||tight deadline|| is a great starter. I'll be blunt with you, if you got your first clear inside of 15 attempts you might be able to go straight to 2 stacks. The timer sounds scary but you should be able to achieve that goal by a good margin if you're playing at aaaany kind of decent pace
unreal eagle
Aye
unreal eagle
And ||forced overtime||
fresh current
2 stacks at least are honestly the training weights you should get on immediately for that
It sounds daunting but the sooner you get used to fighting the tougher bosses the better you get as a player
unreal eagle
Aye
fresh current
The third stack is optional lol
Third stack is a real difficulty spike, out of line with the other two
The first two should take you far until its time to start really cranking up
unreal eagle
Yeah