h1-for-new-players

[subtle granite]

about how she stands?

[tribal adder]

idk i just asked about how to tell which attack she was doing

[subtle granite]

ah yeah that was me

[tribal adder]

thanks

[subtle granite]

do you need a similar breakdown for ||lady tis||?

[tribal adder]

sure

[subtle granite]

okidokes: ||she always starts off standing still and trying to throw a stun attack, just dash by then; then she does the stun attack, dash, dash attack, whip and repeat. you will know she will do her projectile attack by her standing still for a longer while again. when you enter her third stage instead of throwing stuns she does the area attack, dodgeable via going into the path to the exit||

those are all the attacks as far as i remember

[native ember]

How do I unlock ||the fourth aspect|| on weapons

[leaden whale]

pins in #h1-story-discussion

[empty dust]

So i just beat meg; can I fast travel to asphedel or do I have to go back to tartarus and scale back up there again?

[native ember]

Does ||unlocking aspects|| count for the requirement?

[leaden whale]

you gotta go through tartarus every time

[empty dust]

Ok so it's a one run ordeal

[subtle granite]

it's a roguelike/lite, duh?

[empty dust]

I never played a rouge like

[subtle granite]

well thats their general premise - you start anew every time

[errant bramble]

You should be nicer and less condescending

[subtle granite]

hahah did you wait just for that?

[errant bramble]

Just right place right time it looks like

[subtle granite]

aww

[errant bramble]

❤️

[tribal adder]

thanks

[subtle granite]

hope it helps!

[safe locust]

How many attempts normally before you beat the final boss? I reached him once after 21 attempts 😥

[subtle granite]

it can take anywhere between 10 and 150 attempts

21 is really good already!

[safe locust]

Ohh I see. Final boss just blasted me the first time. Hopefully I can beat him in the next few days.

[subtle granite]

good luck and may the gods give you swift and safe runs :)

[native jay]

i defeated the final boss on my 37th attempt, you're doing great

[subtle granite]

cries in 80th and then 20th because i made so many mistakes

[tall sail]

On my 18th attempt I decided to look up some broken bow build online so I cheated

[plush isle]

What should I buy in ||the Styx shop before fighting the final boss?||

[subtle granite]

whatever you feel like you need

[tall sail]

Whatever you can afford because that is the last place you can spend money

[subtle granite]

but only what you really need (like if you dnt need new hammers dont go for amboss)

[tall sail]

Unless you have a Boon which scales off money which is somewhat niche

[subtle granite]

well if you get enough money you can also afford the additional bounty

oh yeah the sword hammer

[tall sail]

I'd go through the tunnels first until you find the sack then spend the money unless you're desperate

[subtle granite]

**Hoarding Slash ** Your Attack deals bonus damage equal to 5% of your current Obols.

a very weird hammer

[plush isle]

Question what am I doing wrong, I faced the final boss 3 times now, always die ||when he enters the second form||

[subtle granite]

what is your biggest issue: health/surviving; dodging attacks, his summons, doing damage?

[plush isle]

I'd say surviving and dodging.

[subtle granite]

then i'd recommend going for the acorn keepsake and dio for "strong drink" (but then dont go looking for more rewards in the other tunnels) or "positive outlook"

else athena and aphro also give very nice health/survival boosts

[plush isle]

Just for reference, I am running the Shield.

[lament quiver]

divine dash saves lives

I always feel like I get more invulnerability using divine dash

[subtle granite]

ahh then get used to pressing yourself up to the walls/stones in the middle when hitting bullrush

it can save you from all attacks

[plush isle]

What hammer upgrades should I be looking for?

[errant bramble]

Plain normal shield?

[plush isle]

Well I haven't unlocked ||Aspects|| yet.

Maybe that is the problem.

[subtle granite]

i would say Minotaur Rush, Charged Shot, Ferocious Guard

[errant bramble]

The one that grants you move speed and dmg after a block is good too.

Yeah charged shotnquite good

[subtle granite]

well the zag shield is very on par witht he other aspects so that isnt a problem

charged shot cheeses the whole endboss fight so good

[plush isle]

Soo if I understand you correctly, I should be utilizing the Bull Rush mechanic a lot?

[subtle granite]

yes

if dodging is your main issue, very big yes

[plush isle]

And for boons Athena, Dionysus?

[subtle granite]

the special of the shield does a bit too little damage to be mainly used for the bosses imo

athena is great for your dash and dio for his health/ survivability boons, i would still recommend aphro on attack to also get her health and survival boons and do massive damage

[solar panther]

Does bull rush block every attack of the final boss?

[plush isle]

So Athena dash, Dionysus health/survivability boons, Aphrodite for attack, health and survival boons.

[subtle granite]

yes

even the aura bursts from projectiles and the lazers

[solar panther]

So I could literally sit in a corner and block every single attack and occasionally run out and hit him

That’s broken

[subtle granite]

you can get unlucky with the beyblade hits if he hits you even a tiny bit from the side

thats not broken, it's a very slow way to win but it's safe

you trade time for safety when doing that

[solar panther]

Do u mean the giant spinny attack when u say beyblade?

[subtle granite]

yes

[solar panther]

I think I can balance being safe and going for damage

[subtle granite]

yep

the issue with relying on the bull rush is that zag firstly: cant bullrush for a long while after hitting special; and secondly: first hits and then after a longer time decides to block for the bullrush

but you can get stunned out of the bullrush block which makes it (although safe) not 100000% reliable

which is why it isnt broken, just a very safe method if you get good at it

[fluid wing]

hey!

any good builds in some place in this discord?

just learning!

[leaden whale]

check pins

[zealous bison]

hoooooooooly carp 🐟

the end of zone 3 is just

don't wanna spoil it for anyone here, but...
||i was one hit away from winning ||

[drowsy plover]

Oof 22 attempts and still doing terrible

[zealous bison]

pro tip:
invest in some posters

oh im sorry - wall-scrolls

[drowsy plover]

Seeing how I'm doing I'll probably clear it in 60

At best

[zealous bison]

"hey it's my bed chambers - i can have whatever wall-scrolls i want!"

but hey - you will get there eventually

[drowsy plover]

With God mode maybe lol

Any tips for Doomstones? I'm losing a lot of health to those

[zealous bison]

casts, or any long-range attacks
that seems to work for me so far

also - i can't wait to beat the whole thing just so i can watch some speedruns

i bet they're just nuts

[subtle granite]

they are

[zealous bison]

and on a complete sidenote
i'm so glad SGGs brought back some of my fave weapons from previous games

mortar from bastion? check - just get a boon for your cast that makes everyone drunk
machete? check - it's here, it just looks different
leaving a trail of damaging stuff after dodging like in transistor? yup - can do that too
and hey - even the "the enemy caught something you had earlier and now is debuffed" thing from pyre kinda-sorta made it here

oh and i gotta mention - WOW - turns out that darren, aside from being a great composer, is a great voice actor too

i'm talking about skelly, of course

[subtle granite]

why not zag

[zealous bison]

yeah zag is great too

[subtle granite]

darren voiced zag

tahts why i'm askin

[zealous bison]

i know
and he's just as good, if not better
i just find it amusing that this throaway punching bag has so much character

[leaden whale]

guys

what should i use the normal attack of the gauntlet for when i already have chill on my special

Idk, weak is pretty cool

weak?

im new

Aphrodite’s affect

ohhhh

It makes the enemies weaker and increases your base damage

for now ill just use my special since it one shots basically everything in tartarus

[errant bramble]

@zealous bison man I bought transistor the other day and that game is...I need a tutorial lol

[zealous bison]

well then @errant bramble - hop on over to #transistor and i'll walk you through it

be wary of spoilers though
and my awful puns

it's a punsistor channel

[leaden whale]

any tips for megaera with gauntlet (the thing u unlock with 8 keys)

[fathom crown]

Learn her patterns, know when to close and attack and when to dodge, don't stand there and trade damage, make use of the pillars and traps in the arena if you can.

[uneven ledge]

make sure to watch out for her whip since you're using a very close-range weapon and try taking out her minions

[subtle granite]

definitively get athena on your dash to throw her projectiles back for fantastic damage

also it's better to be sure and dash away than dash straight to her to damage her, you will stillget enough damage in without taking that much yourself

[leaden whale]

what do aspects do

[tall sail]

Good things

[leaden whale]

nvm thats a dumb question

what the heck is a blitz shield

It goes brr

[west patio]

Hammer upgrade for shield

[leaden whale]

for me its an aspect of zeus

[west patio]

Oh

[leaden whale]

Yes, it's an aspect

The game doesn't save until you leave skelly's room, so you can try it out and just quit if you don't like it

Not sure if the same goes for switch if ever Probably?

thanks for the tip

[lone nova]

Man, so I didnt realize that ||unique aspects meant names, not weapons|| so im on the blood farm, =/

[leaden whale]

im loving the blitz shield and magnetic cutter

does magnetic cutter work on bosses

[meager thistle]

what are some good synergies with the chaos shield?

[tall sail]

Boons? I copied a build online where I go for Zeus everything except for Demeter attack and some of the Demeter support boons as well

[leaden whale]

can anyone please quickly answer my question

[west patio]

Which one?

[leaden whale]

magnetic cutter

[west patio]

Probably yes but with a weaker effect

[wraith rock]

||Reached Hades 4x in a row with the bow and can not kill him....||

||I thought I got him and then the ho bar gets back to full😀||

[errant bramble]

@wraith rock the rules of this channel mean your entire message is a spoiler. Can you spoiler bar the whole thing by bracketing ||like this|| or just delete the whole thing

||

Those bars two on either side haha

And also good job, keep trying.

Try to make sure you dodge the skulls bc they make you take bonus damage

[leaden whale]

Destroy the skulls

[fathom crown]

@leaden whale if I recall, you can't move bosses around (see also: Poseidon boons) but magnetic cutter damage bonus will still apply

[drowsy plover]

26 attempts, cannot get past Hydra

I'm really bad

[fathom crown]

It takes time. You gotta fight a boss a lot to learn the moves, don't feel bad.

Also, consider whether you want to turn on God Mode.

[drowsy plover]

And getting used to weapons. I tend to use the one which currently uses darkness boost even though I'm most comfortable with shield

[fathom crown]

Indeed. Chasing Dark Thirst (or whatever it's called?) is a fine strategy

[errant bramble]

My first win was like run 50 something. You’re doing fine

[fathom crown]

Same.

[reef shoal]

I had to turn on God Mode for my first win 😦

[gilded edge]

Aight so

I wanted to ask does death burn you out?

oh I cant swear rip

[lone nova]

man, shield is my worst, im just not good lol

[gilded edge]

I can be pretty good sekiro changes a man

not in terms of skill

but perserverence rly

[lone nova]

like i got to final boss with sword/fists/bow

[light flame]

are you utilizing the block with shield?

[lone nova]

spear, i keep dying in elysium. railgun, haven't found a good build i like, but i dont really like it

obv not 🙂

I did better my last run with shield, but died to weird freak burst from hydra

i really dislike the magma level whatever it's called

[reef shoal]

Asphodel

[lone nova]

ah yah i knew that

[fathom crown]

Death is fine, honestly. I think it really helps that death is part of the story, and that you and other characters comment on it. There's ways to progress relationships and unlocks even in runs where you die, and that takes the sting out of dying.

Sometimes it's like, oh finally, back to the House, who can I talk to this time, maybe Achilles will be there to take this nectar off my hands finally

[drowsy plover]

Yea but what makes me sad is that I almost beat Theseus yesterday but now I'm stuck in Asphodel, if I can even get there and don't get beaten up by the furies

Every run seems worse

Sorry don't want to be pestering people, just feeling a bit stuck 😅

[vale frigate]

When I've felt stuck it's helped to focus on specific mirror upgrades or upgrading trinkets, that takes the sting off dying because you can see the progress you're making in getting stronger even if the same bosses keep killing you.

[drowsy plover]

Yea now I can rest and unlock another bit of backstory so it's not that bad.

[leaden whale]

How do I get past ||cerberus||

[woven eagle]

||do the tunnels on the left of the room until you find the sack||

[leaden whale]

Oh ok

Just like until I get lucky?

[errant bramble]

Do the boss tunnels first

Yes

[leaden whale]

Ok

[errant bramble]

You can clear then all if you want

If your build needs the stuff

[leaden whale]

I have the lifesteal sword rn and I’m feeling pretty good

[fathom crown]

What do you mean, boss tunnels first?

[leaden whale]

The ones with bosses

The boss symbol

[woven eagle]

There are tunnels with and without skulls in the icon, the ones with the skulls are boss tunnels

[fathom crown]

I have successfully avoided those so far, are they better? Why do them first?

[woven eagle]

They give better stuff

[fathom crown]

How much harder are they? I've lost several runs from the enemies in this area grinding me down, or leaving me with enough death defiance for final fight

[errant bramble]

For example the boss boon rooms (throughout the whole game) reward better Boons.

In Styx, you also get double gold or you get a 2 level Pom

[leaden whale]

What is the ||anvil lookin thing in the temple shop||

[woven eagle]

Some of the easier minibosses unless you get ||tiny vermin|| in my opinion

[woven eagle]

It removes a random hammer and gives two different ones

[leaden whale]

Ah

Hmmm

[zealous bison]

back from my most successful run yet ||got all the way up to - at least what i think is - the last boss||

and i gotta say

this game is making it REALLY hard for me to quit smoking

[leaden whale]

Who was it?

||hades?||

guys i get death defied in every chamber but i dont have stubborn defiance whats going on?

[fathom crown]

Did you defeat the dreaded || Cerberus||?

[zealous bison]

because so far every bossfight makes me hands shake like crazy

@fathom crown ||yes i did||
||not really||

[leaden whale]

me?

[fathom crown]

@leaden whale no, no idea about your question, unfortunately

[leaden whale]

okay

[fathom crown]

@zealous bison my favorite boss encounter, hands down

[zealous bison]

yeah

[woven eagle]

If you want the rewards from boss rooms in styx but avoid minibosses, you can do a normal room dor the first tunnel and do boss tunnels from there. If you get ||the sack|| you don't have to do the last room of a tunnel and avoid the miniboss

[zealous bison]

see - this is what i meant when i said that this game has a borderline comedic tone
it's so lighthearted

it's pretty wholesome

"No, Dad! I'm an adult and i'm gonna buy as many lewd posters as i want! With my own money!"

[fathom crown]

Also: ||furniture you will never, ever sit on||

[zealous bison]

also
can we talk about the shades?

they proved to be an... endless source of entertainment for me

that broker going all hurrrr
that chef with skills so mad they put gordon ramsay to shame

love them

[quiet shell]

Anyone here know a good build for ||gilgamesh||?

i'm having a hard time

with it

[woven eagle]

Tidal dash

[vale frigate]

Yes I also love the shades, how they talk in emojis. The other day I just watched hades giving his judgments to the shade petitioners for quite awhile. Denied! So strangely entertaining

[woven eagle]

Lol

If yoi get sea storm it's great

You can prohably scale better with zeus than with poseidon if you get sea storm, because you can't knock back bosses

[quiet shell]

Alright, thank you

i will try

[pine prawn]

I love the shades, especially the Fan shade in Elysium

Wish I could give that guy some nectar

[fathom crown]

Do y'all know about the ||red shade in Elysium boss arena||?

[pine prawn]

That's who I meant

That's my guy

[fathom crown]

Oh hi Amanda, didn't see your comment but I see we're on a wavelength

How cool would it be to give that shade a nectar? Things I didn't know I wanted until just now

[pine prawn]

They gave me emotional support, they deserve it

Also for the proof that there is someone out there producing Zagreus banners

[fathom crown]

I want that shade to give a foam finger keepsake, with no effect at all except to provoke snarky comments from Theseus

[pine prawn]

Except the comments are because Theseus is jealous

[fathom crown]

Yes please

[pine prawn]

Oh, do YOUR fans give you super cool keepsakes, king? Well, even if they did they wouldn't be as good as this one, since I have the BEST fan!

Shade:

[fathom crown]

He'd be so angry and flustered just to realize he doesn't have the support of 100% of the crowd

It'd get under his skin so bad

[pine prawn]

Exactly

I wish Zagreus' crowd would grow after beating Theseus enough times

My boy deserves it

[leaden whale]

I have two chamber ||re-roll||s available to me but I'm not getting a prompt to use them. What am I missing?

[vivid patio]

not all chambers can be affected

[leaden whale]

Oh okay, that would explain it

What can be ||re-rolled|| then?

[vivid patio]

anything that isn't ||npc rooms, charon's shop or boss rooms||

[leaden whale]

Weird because the ||god boon rooms aren't giving me a prompt either||

Scratch all that I'm a moron and they're the other ||re-roll||

[sly vigil]

That I may or may not have stolen from you and your realm. But it's honest work, OK?

[vivid patio]

i was just thinking to ask if you got them mixed lmao

problem solved :D

[leaden whale]

Apologies haha!

[reef shoal]

I have never gotten ||the sack|| on the first tunnel

[vivid patio]

thats because its set up to not be possible

[leaden whale]

https://gyazo.com/c355084c0226faa2e84cbf39ffc5d385

which one?

i dont have a build btw

[sly vigil]

which weapon?

[leaden whale]

shield

[sly vigil]

strong drink

[leaden whale]

yea thats what i got

ty for the help tho

[sly vigil]

yeah! gl on the run

[weak token]

Who's this meg replacement

What

[leaden whale]

How do I actually ||complete the main quest/story||? I've got ||9 clears now|| do I need to just keep plugging away?

[vivid patio]

when in doubt do more runs :)

[leaden whale]

Oh yeah the first boss ||can be Meg or somebody else|| once you reach a certain point

[leaden whale]

Cool! More than happy to do that, I can work on getting a clear with the spear - it's the only one I've not managed it with yet

[sly vigil]

Let's say you are close :D

[leaden whale]

Awesome - I'm fully invested in everything that's happening ||I can't wait to see if there is some kind of resolution. Against everything I actually really like Hades and feel for him a little bit||

[weak token]

Can you quit mid run

[leaden whale]

ye

not all the time tho

You can via give up in the pause menu. You won't keep anything you've earned though and it will reset you to your last save point before beginning the run (I think)

[vivid patio]

it warns you about this, yes

if you want to actually exit the game mid run, the game saves after every chamber, you should see the save icon in the upper right? corner. you should have a quit option when its safe to quit. if you want to give up the run but not lose the resources you gained, you need to die on the run, since the give up option will basically make it as if that run never happened

[lone nova]

Oh there is no pin for which deals to buy. Time to search

and this:
Always check the wretched broker and if the special deal is
1 titan blood => 200 gems
and
15 keys => 1 titan blood
ALWAYS take it. Cause you can do
1 titan blood》200gems》20keys》1 titan blood and 5 keys.
So also keep 1 titan blood and enough keys or enough gems at ready

[leaden whale]

That's actually a really handy tip for newer players who will want to unlock the mirror fully ASAP

[lone nova]

I screwed up my blood spending so I'm having to farm gems for blood

[leaden whale]

1 titan blood for 200 gems is a scam lol

1 titan blood is worth 1000 gems

[floral nacelle]

I also trade a lot of ambrosia for titan blood

[sly vigil]

The problem with this approach is that you need to actually get the trade, so sure, you can get some values this way, but how long do you need to do that for???

[floral nacelle]

I don’t think you need as much ambrosia to max out everything

[sly vigil]

In general, I say 1TB for 200 gems is indeed a scam.

Life is too short to reset for 3 specific brokers trade.

(To get an extra 5 keys)

[leaden whale]

What is ambrosia actually used for? I've not used a single one so far

[sly vigil]

it's upgraded nectar

you get your folks hooked on nectar and eventually they want something stronger

that's when you burst out the ambrosia.

[leaden whale]

Ohhh is it for ||when people have locked hearts in the codex?||

[floral nacelle]

Also to upgrade ||legendary keepsakes|| they give you

[sly vigil]

Some yes, some requires quests, some requires ||petting||. But in general, that's what Ambrosia is for yeah. And also what dysphere said.

[leaden whale]

Cool. Well it's probably good I have an ungodly amount of it saved up

[sly vigil]

That's good :D

[leaden whale]

does the weapon dummies tooth regenerate every area?

i have gotten onto the last area : D

the lucky tooth

It doesn't. It's a one and done though it can be restored

[arctic cargo]

Hello guys , im at a phase in game when I cant find Titans blood from the first boss , where to find titan's blood now in order to upgrade weapons at weapon aspects?

[left hazel]

This might not be too relevant, but is drunken dash any good? Similarly, can you actually get any decent damage done with any of the dash attack boons?

[left hazel]

I'm pretty sure that each time you beat the first boss with a different weapon, it'll give you one more titan's blood? I'm not 100% sure.

[arctic cargo]

I need to know for sure :/

[vivid patio]

you can only collect rewards once, you'll have to win a run in order to have rewards available again. the only other way you can get blood until then is through prophecies or the broker. or ||the shop in styx||

[left hazel]

I just looked it up! When you defeat the first boss with a different weapon, it'll give you some. Also, apparently, the same applies for the last boss.

[vivid patio]

it'll be more.. clear? i guess once you win a run and its easier to see how thats set up

it does feel a little confusing initially

[sly vigil]

Yeah, defeat the final boss to get access to a reliable way to get more Titan Blood. If you are having trouble clearing your first run, you can ask for some build advice here.

Edited because I'm a dummy.

[arctic cargo]

Thank you guys

The same thing is applied for the second boss reward ?

[floral nacelle]

Yep, for all boss rewards

[sly vigil]

yup. if you already killed it once with a weapon, the next time you will get darkness instead of diamond.

[arctic cargo]

Very true, im almost defeating the last boss. Pretty hard

[floral nacelle]

What are you struggling with?

I know for me, I didn’t catch on that you wanted boons with synergies, not just having a lot of boons

[leaden whale]

Hello, got three questions

||is there any ambrosia limit or can I spare everyone with it?||
||is there any difference when giving it to two different characters? (outside story and dialogues of course)||
||what is the use of having a lover in this game?||

I already wasted a lot of ambrosia on different characters

[sly vigil]

1. There is a limit with how many you get (technically unlimited, but just unreliable to get). But you will also get more Ambrosia than you will ever need, really.
2. Most characters will just give you stories and dialogues, except for 7 characters who will give you something in return. I can tell you who they are but I'd not spoil that if you don't want.
3. I suppose this is tied a bit to the second question, but there is no difference giving it to two different characters/romantic partners. Sometimes you get a cute reference about this but that's about it. You can also have multiple partners for no downside. Romantic partners are just for story and have no bearing on gameplay (again, except for some cute dialogues).

[sly vigil]

Don't worry, you will find more.

[lone nova]

I haaaaaaattteeee satyrs

[sly vigil]

Satyrs hate you

[leaden whale]

Yes @sly vigil , could you name those NPCs?

I think I've read about it, but I don't know who are they except one

[sly vigil]

||Thanatos, Megaera, Skelly, Sisyphus, Dusa, Achilles (and Patrolus)||

[leaden whale]

Thank you very much

[solar panther]

I’ve gotten slapped 5 runs in a row by final boss, at this point it feels like the rest of the game is easy and final boss is impossible

No matter what I do

And so I spend around an hour on reach run just to get to the same place as last time

It sucks

[sly vigil]

May I suggest save scumming?

[solar panther]

What’s that

Oh I see

[sly vigil]

Do you know what save scumming is in general?

[solar panther]

I didn’t before but I see what u mean

So quit once I get to final boss if I lose

And it saves

Like right before I lose

That’s it right?

[sly vigil]

Right direction but not quite.

[dusty hawk]

WAIT HOLD UP CAN I ROMANCE NYX LOL

[solar panther]

What

[sly vigil]

||NO LOL||

[dusty hawk]

I wish

[sly vigil]

#h1-high-heat-strategies message

You don't have to save scum if you don't want. But if you really want to practice the fight in isolation so you can do a full clear later.

[dusty hawk]

Isn’t she ||technically not married to hades when Persephone comes back?||

[sly vigil]

It's a good tool to use.

Don't abuse it.

[pine prawn]

Bruh she raised Zagreus that would be... odd

[sly vigil]

||She has never married Hades. They are business partners in some sense.||

[dusty hawk]

Yeah I know

I tried

I’m still gonna max out her relationship tho

[solar panther]

@sly vigil thanks I said it in wrong chat lol

[sly vigil]

Yeah np, i got it :D Hope it helps.

[keen oracle]

Everyone knows the best relationship though is ||best friends for all eternity with Dusa||

[arctic cargo]

They have to fix this for sure. Its like cheating

[sly vigil]

I don't think so.

[rich cave]

How would they go about fixing it even if they tried

[sly vigil]

It's a single player game. You do what you want.

Cheating code exists in most single player games, we have God Mode in game, even. What you do in a single player experience is your own.

If save scumming makes the game better for you, do it.

Not like SGG is forcing save scumming down everyone's throat. More options > fewer options.

[rich cave]

Honestly it’s not worth it because you have to wait for the game to reopen every single time

[sly vigil]

This is not to mention save scumming is legitimately used to practice high heat runs. Of course, on the flipside, it's a tool, and like most tools, you can abuse it. It's up to you and your personal preferences.

[pine prawn]

What about ||Cerberus, your best friend ever?||

[lyric tiger]

On the descend thing, how come when I watch other streamers they encounter others, but on mine I can only encounter Chaos?

[drowsy plover]

I turned on god mode around 30 tries because I felt stuck xD it's still hard man

Idk I only saw Chaos too

[floral nacelle]

You need to unlock ||erebus gates||, which you can only buy at the house contractor after clearing the game once

[lyric tiger]

Ohh

[floral nacelle]

That's the only other underground zone I can think of that they might have that you don't

[lyric tiger]

But can we still meet Chaos if that happens?

To befriend him

[floral nacelle]

No, these gates are different from chaos'

But you can still meet chaos separately in his own gates

[lyric tiger]

Oh btw is unlocking the Administrative Privilege on the Contractor important?

[floral nacelle]

It lets you see run statistics and advance story, so your choice

I think it's worth it for the run statistics alone

[lyric tiger]

I see, so i need to unlock it to advance the story

[floral nacelle]

You don't need it to advance the main story, just for the favors various characters ask you

[sly vigil]

It's required if you want a ||certain companion||

[lyric tiger]

Ahh i don't have that yet, I'll just choose the Deluxe Desk instead

[tight panther]

is it possible to have god mode on without it checked?

i dont see a need for it

and i definitely feel like im getting significantly stronger each time, so is it accidentally on or something?

the menu says it isnt

[pine prawn]

That's the phenomenon known as gittin gud

[ivory ocean]

if it says it isn't then it's probably not

yeah I'd imagine it's just getting better at the game, or maybe better boons too

[pine prawn]

But really, in this game you can slam yourself against the enemy 20 times, then realize you can get past them in a breeze

[arctic cargo]

What does it mean the skull sign on some gates ?

[floral nacelle]

Harder enemy

[tight panther]

thanks amanda and bappy new years

[floral nacelle]

Like armored enemies, minibosses, or the boss

[tight panther]

i really love this game so far

🙂

[pine prawn]

The boss will have two red marks under the skull

[arctic cargo]

Oh thanks mate

[pine prawn]

Miniboss will have one

[arctic cargo]

I did clear a gate with a skull on it without taking dmg but the steam achievement not unlocked

Maybe skull gate from infernal gate differs?

Yea maybe is a boss gate

[fathom crown]

Hey, an infernal gate is a different thing that you will not encounter until much later.

[tight panther]

ok i cant post a image in here so im gonna post it in #h1-tech-support , this means it is off right

[errant bramble]

Just keep playing

Do more runs

[tight panther]

any article on how hades generates levels?

im wondering because i see a lot of similar levels

im not sure what the differences are

[zealous bison]

spoiler alert @tight panther
||it doesn't||

all rooms are hand-crafted afaik
they just show up in a random order

[tight panther]

okie

[leaden whale]

yeah they aren't random

enemies, p sure they are

but rooms stay the same

[viral pendant]

||Four|| down, ||six|| to go

[quick hearth]

Wha do u guys think about trading Abrosia for Titan blood as new player?

Having problems beatings ||hades|| for more bloods and i think maybe Spear 4th Aspect can help?

[reef shoal]

@quick hearth spoilers please

[quick hearth]

Uh where

[reef shoal]

REDACTED is the final boss

...touche

[quick hearth]

but yeah

[reef shoal]

I feel dirty for using god mode 😦

[elfin ice]

God mode sounds like fun tbh

[quasi cairn]

idk but i think its a good trade imo

[drowsy plover]

I'm using God mode too but can't get past Theseus

[pine prawn]

Are you using the columns to shield yourself?

That's the best way to avoid his spear

And the bull's charge for that matter. Although for extra fun you can make him crash into Theseus lol

[opaque geyser]

Bull's charge is easier with the walls than columns, I find

[drowsy plover]

Yes I hide behind the colums and attack Asterius there. I don't attack him in plain sight

But by the time I defeat Asterius my health is too low to face Theseus

But I have 2 death defiance now, should help

[solar panther]

How many DDs do u normally have left once u get to that fight

[drowsy plover]

1 or less

[vivid patio]

god mode isnt mean to be seen as a negative thing, dont feel bad for utilizing it

[solar panther]

It could be that ur playing greedy and not dashing away enough, I had a friend who started playing today and couldn’t get passed Meg for his first 10 runs on easy mode cus he just wouldn’t run away

And yes god mode is an intended mechanism to help people who are struggling

[drowsy plover]

My weapon of choice is shield so I often block

[solar panther]

Do u struggle on Theseus’s second stage?

[drowsy plover]

The one when he faces you alone? Yes

[solar panther]

Like when he calls upon a god

[drowsy plover]

Oh I don't think I got that far

[solar panther]

For that part u should remember that dodge has invincibility frames, so if u wait half a second before u would normally dodge, You’ll take no damage

This works on any other attack as well

It would be as if u dodged through the attack

Also how do u get those roles, I’m curious

[sly vigil]

check #bot-commands and the pins there

[solar panther]

Oh ok

Thanks

Nice

Why isn’t my name colored

[drowsy plover]

It is now

[solar panther]

Is it?

Oh yay

[drowsy plover]

Yes it is green

[sly vigil]

Give it a moment

It's green now

[solar panther]

Noice

[drowsy plover]

Ah yea well I'll try more tomorrow

I really wanted to get my first clear done in 2-3 days but doesn't seem like it

[solar panther]

That would’ve been ideal for me too but I just don’t wanna spend that much time at once lol

I don’t think many ppl do it that fast

I may be wrong tho

[drowsy plover]

Yea it does take a lot of time. Even with god mode on. You need to die a lot for it to make a difference.

[timber nexus]

Are there any tricks to beating Theseus and the Minotaur? I'm not necessarily stuck, just that that's the next roadblock to my runs and I have been otherwise fine getting there

[alpine ridge]

Which one of them are you having the most trouble with?

Generally in the beginning, the usual advice is kill the Minotaur first, then Theseus

[timber nexus]

Uhh
The fact that there's two of them and Theseus is a rude sniper who keeps sniping me while I'm trying to get rid of Mino for being in my face and annoying

And Theseus' snipes hurt

[knotty totem]

Funny, I always go for Theseus first, it seems to work well for me

Also hello!

[timber nexus]

Hello!

[alpine ridge]

Hello as well

Ok so the strategy is to just hide behind the columns

Since the spear can’t go through them

[timber nexus]

Mmmk

[alpine ridge]

Then fight the Mino there since he’ll follow you around

[fathom crown]

So I don't like the sword but my goodness, it's got great hammer upgrades. Just did a run with Hoarding Strike (+5% of your gold becomes bonus damage on each attack), and reached over 1800 gold by the end of the run. It was ridiculous.

[alpine ridge]

If you have Athena’s Dash, you can deflect Theseus’ spear if you have the timing right

[timber nexus]

Also, did I do a good thing by picking the spear for my main go-to weapon? And gotcha

[alpine ridge]

Sure my dude whatever floats your boat

No bad weapons in this game

Just things that may or may not float your boat

[timber nexus]

Ye

I like everything but the rail tbf

That
That's frustrating

[alpine ridge]

Ah yeah, it’s pretty different to everything else

[timber nexus]

Mmm
It's a pretty technical weapon

And I'm not ready for techy

[alpine ridge]

Tip for the rail, rebind your keys so the reload and fire button makes sense

[timber nexus]

Yeaa

Reload was jank

Even on controller

Like
I don't even have my thumb on right toggle

Whaddya mean it's reload?

XD

[alpine ridge]

It’s really good to figure out how to make the Fire-Reload rhythm feel natural

Especially for the other aspects

[timber nexus]

Fair..

[cinder pulsar]

Though personally I've found that the only rail aspect that really requires it is Hestia

Mostly because you'll be reloading constantly

[fathom crown]

Here's some advice about Theseus: ||He has two main attacks, a circular slash he does if you're close, and a spear throw he does if you're farther away. You can control which one he does by the distance you stay away from him. The spear throw is easier to avoid, because you can dodge to the side, or hide behind a pillar.||

Here's a vulnerability of Theseus: ||Right after he throws and catches his spear, he turns his back to you and you can get a couple of hits in without his shield. Go slow, bait him into throwing the spear, avoid it, get a few hits in, wait. Don't get greedy and you'll be safe.||

Here's another vulnerability of Theseus: ||He's unprotected when he first calls on the gods for help, so if you're quick you can get a bunch of hits in even while you're running away from godwrath. This is a good time to use a Greater Call of your own.||

Most of all, you will be tempted to run around in a panic, but don't. Take your time and be deliberate, and you'll embarrass him again and again. 🙂

[timber nexus]

But the spear is old reliable right now so I'm sticking with that
And, thank you

Dully noted

[alpine ridge]

iridium has really great advice up there

[cinder pulsar]

Plus another bit of advice regarding him: ||Kill Asterius first before focusing on him||

[timber nexus]

Mmmk

[fathom crown]

Oh, also! This won't work on every run, but if you get the right boons, ||certain Artemis boons (the ones that create seeking arrows) bypass shields, including Theseus's shield.||

[winter spire]

||Asterius first ;0 I always kill Thesus first I just find it easier to dodge asterius than Thesus but I'm also newer xD||

[timber nexus]

I'll probably kill whoever I hate most first

[fathom crown]

Well, that's not even a contest

[timber nexus]

Lel

[winter spire]

That fight in general just takes forever tho for me

I also just play it probably way too safe

[fathom crown]

Yeah. That fight and the final boss fight, for me, are both endurance matches for sure

[timber nexus]

I take forever and a half killing certain armoured enemies
It's ok

[winter spire]

I'm good up until that fight and the final one tbh

[timber nexus]

Caution in roguelikes is good 😊

[winter spire]

I can get through Thesus and Aestris (I cant spell help xD) but The final one I just

This is my first rouge-like haha

I say I'm doing pretty decent

[timber nexus]

Second, here

[winter spire]

My first uh runthrough? Like the first time I got to the surface and killed the final boss I did in 17 hours in like 25 runs so I say thats pretty good for me xD

Especially for have never played anything like it before

[timber nexus]

Also
Just say Asterix lel
Think of Asterix and Obelisk

[fathom crown]

That's the magic of Hades, really: onboarding people into roguelikes who didn't think they'd like roguelikes or could be good at roguelikes

[timber nexus]

Very good magic

[winter spire]

I thought I wouldn't like Hades but you know here I am and Im addicted xD

[timber nexus]

I played Crypt of the Necrodancer before this
And uhh
Hades is VERY different

[winter spire]

Everyone I know was telling me to play it so I was like why not give it a try and now I've surpassed them haha

[fathom crown]

Oh yeah, Necrodancer is a totally different thing. Still great soundtrack, though, so it has that in common with Hades at least

[timber nexus]

Ye

Hades is harder in some aspects

I'd say

[winter spire]

I honestly think my first time killing final boss was like the most unconvential build ever but it somehow worked

[timber nexus]

But tbf... I am good enough at Necrodancer to speedrun it so it's not a fair comparison

At all

[fathom crown]

Storytime?

[winter spire]

Oh you wanna hear this haha

[leaden whale]

balls

[winter spire]

I had the boon for uh that everytime you hit something it gave you 2 health back (Its like my favorite one tbh) and I was like this isn't gonna work for the final boss cause I have 100 health and this dude will oneshot me. I has my 3 death defiences and my lucky tooth. I don't remember my other boons I could check but eh. Anyways I was doing fine and only died once. His second phase hit and I died 2 times in a row. Artemis's call saved me and I ended up living on 34 health I just it was super for it being my second time ever facing him I say that was pretty unconvential cause I only had little health xD

[fathom crown]

That's a good story. That sword modification is almost too good. I only got it once, early on, but it took me way farther than I had any right to go at the time.

[winter spire]

I figured out it really works for me

I tend in any game to just be a melee hitter

Its nice cause I can hit more without losing toooooo much health unless you aren't careful

I always use the sword tho, It's pretty hard for me to do any other weapon. I could probably do the fists but Im so accustomed to what I like for the sword now I almost feel it would be detrimental to change now

I might practice others after I finish the main story, but rn Im focused on just finishing the main story

[alpine ridge]

I actually would suggest trying all the aspects

You might be surprised by some of them

[winter spire]

I tried the bow and hated it so much I gave up lmao

[alpine ridge]

Hahhaa yeah that was me too

[winter spire]

But I do plan to try more, I guess I just dont wanna take the time to relearn a weapon xD

[alpine ridge]

Then i started using the Hera aspect and using Casts and i was like 😮

[winter spire]

I think I would like the gauntlets

Im a sucker for melee xD

[timber nexus]

I wonder
Is it a good idea to give like... a lot of nectar to Cerberus? I like the dog. He's a good boy. Hasn't gifted him like 3 nectars already.

[alpine ridge]

Give your nectar to whoever you want

[leaden whale]

I didn't lose any DDs against the final boss on my second attempt

He hit me like twice

[alpine ridge]

You get so much just playing

[leaden whale]

Yeah

[alpine ridge]

Niceeeeee

[timber nexus]

Kewl

Time to give nectar to Cerberus until he won't accept any more

[leaden whale]

I'm trying to unlock the aspect for the spear, but the base ones don't count

im upset

time to grind titan blood

[alpine ridge]

A few prophecies give a bunch all at once

[leaden whale]

yeah true

[alpine ridge]

If you wanna go for those

[leaden whale]

The ||Guan Yu|| aspect doesn't seem so bad

[alpine ridge]

It’s uh

[leaden whale]

plus the weapon is my favorite weapon of all time

like the guandao

[alpine ridge]

It’s pretty good yeah

[timber nexus]

I like the spear a lot too

[leaden whale]

I like Spear and Adamant Rail a lot.

[alpine ridge]

Warning for GY: ||the health reduction is brutal in the beginning||

[timber nexus]

There's something about pokey-poking things that is so satisfying

[winter spire]

Oh!!! I have a question but its kind of spoiler for past final boss so Imma spoiler it fyi ||What would you reccomend taking for the punishment scroll? I'm currently taking the coin one but idk what one is easiest since Im just trying to get through it rn||

[leaden whale]

yeah it sounds brutal

turn them all max go nuts @winter spire

💪

[winter spire]

I dont have that kind of confidence xD

[leaden whale]

it's not confidence its boldness

[alpine ridge]

Extreme Measures tbh

[leaden whale]

yeah i went extreme measures and more enemies and got up to ||Hydra||

[alpine ridge]

It’s so you learn the new bosses ASAP

[leaden whale]

the first boss is easy imo

||hydra|| takes it to another level

[winter spire]

They have even more forms than what they are rn?!

I mean tbh I should have expected this

[alpine ridge]

Yes that’s what Extreme Measures does

[winter spire]

well yes

[alpine ridge]

Oh and the timer is pretty easy

[leaden whale]

what's the timer

[winter spire]

The 9 minutes one?

[leaden whale]

never messed with it

[alpine ridge]

The last one on the list

Yeah 9 minutes is very very long haha

[timber nexus]

I like fighting Hydra
They're pretty fun of a boss

[leaden whale]

What happens if time runs out

[winter spire]

Getting out of the underworld in 9 minutes doesnt that mean the entire thing??

[alpine ridge]

Also if you have time left over from each area, it’ll add an additional 9 minutes to it

[leaden whale]

no not in the underworld

[alpine ridge]

Yes it’s 9 min per area

[leaden whale]

just one area

[winter spire]

OOOOOOOOOh

[leaden whale]

yeah

[winter spire]

I would not be able to do that

I cant do the Thesus fight and bull thing fight fast enough

[leaden whale]

it took me 28 minutes to beat everything in a run

[timber nexus]

I don't have that much fun with the Furies. At least those that aren't Meg.

[leaden whale]

that's like 9 minutes per area

[timber nexus]

Meg is fun

[leaden whale]

plus 1

Yeah the other furies can be annoying

[alpine ridge]

I always like Tisiphone

[winter spire]

That would be easy only if I didn't take ages on ONE boss fight haha

[alpine ridge]

Because it’s faster

[winter spire]

Tisiphone is the easiest

For m

[leaden whale]

Meg is easier

[timber nexus]

Meg is indeed easier
At least for me

[winter spire]

My list for easiest is Tisiphone, Meg, then the other one I cant spell either xD

[alpine ridge]

Alecto?

[winter spire]

Yeah

[timber nexus]

Me, it's
Meg, Tisiphone then Alecto
Alecto has killed me a lot recently

[winter spire]

I luckily don't really have problems with them anymore

[sharp locust]

My easiest is Alecto

Hardest is Tisiphone but only cause I play aggressively sometimes so she catches me off guard 🙄

[leaden whale]

I struggle against ||Theseus|| when he gets half hp

[winter spire]

I just dash in circles in that fight for ages

[timber nexus]

Also... Is it normal that the game gives you Meg for first boss for like... a good amount of runs or am I just lucky?

[winter spire]

I think the shortest I've done that fight is 10 minutes and the longest took me 30 minutes I just play it way too safe cause idk how to do it faster

Honestly i never get meg anymore after it switches it xD

[timber nexus]

Fair enough

[alpine ridge]

What helped for me was just making sure i had a good build by the time i get to elysium

[timber nexus]

I was just curious if it was luck

[winter spire]

Honestly I dont really.... know what is good build and what is not. I just take whatever sounds the strongest xD

[timber nexus]

Same, Tesseract

[alpine ridge]

Like good rule of thumb was if i took too long just killing normal mooks in elysium, it’s not good enough for thesus

Ohhhh

Do you guys look at the Codex at all?

[winter spire]

On occassion

[alpine ridge]

Specifically the Boon list for each olympian?

[winter spire]

I do do that yes

[timber nexus]

Very frequently
Not the boon list though

I like to read lore more than lists

[winter spire]

Lore is very good yes haha

[alpine ridge]

Yes Lore is very good haha

Especially the Fish lore

I am very invested in the Fish lore

[timber nexus]

I go "hm, Deflect sounds good. Yoink."
And "Ooo, crits surely goes brrr. Yoink." Or "Mmm, Doom sounds tasty. Yoink."

[winter spire]

I like to take my defelct on my dash because I NEVER stop dashing

[alpine ridge]

Athena dash is definitely brilliant

Try the Poseidon dash every once in a while, it’ll up your dash significantly

[winter spire]

OH yeah

I take that if I see it

I love defect on dash, Artemis call, and the one hammer thing for my health haha

I dont know the name of that one tho

[alpine ridge]

Cursed Strike or something like that i think?

Have you gotten any of the Duo Boons yet?

[timber nexus]

Duo Boons?

[winter spire]

OOOO

I got one ONE time

Never again

[timber nexus]

When a room makes you pick a boon out of two?

[winter spire]

Its a type of boon

xD

[timber nexus]

Oh

[winter spire]

I was confused when I say it for the first time too xD

[timber nexus]

I try and avoid those rooms anyway

They're scary

[rich cave]

A duo boon is one that has an effect from 2 gods combined

It’s rare

[alpine ridge]

It’s basically a boon that 2 gods give you

[winter spire]

THERE YOU GO

xD

[timber nexus]

Ah

[alpine ridge]

There are specific boons you have to take from both gods for it to be offered

But what’s nice is that every god has a duo boon with every other god

[timber nexus]

Huh

[alpine ridge]

Then there are the legendary boons for each god which have conditions as well

Those are the boons that’ll increase your power in runs significantly

Also Lore-wise from Duo boons: you get special dialogue where the gods talk to each other

And the shade thrown around

Oooooh

[winter spire]

I assume it is pretty entertaining

[alpine ridge]

It is

[rich cave]

I love Artemis’s with Zeus lol

[winter spire]

I've only gottena duo boon one time xD

[timber nexus]

The shade?~
I want to hear thaaat~

Sounds spicy

[alpine ridge]

Athena and Ares is “chef’s kiss”

You’ll see the requirements for the Duo boons in the boon lists for the gods

[winter spire]

I think my fav god is Artemis honestly

[rich cave]

My favorite are Artemis and Ares

[winter spire]

Ares is good too tbh

He just never shows up for me XD

[rich cave]

If you have his ||keepsake|| you can use it to ensure he’ll spawn

His doom effects are really good though

[winter spire]

Ooooh! I didn't know that

I also like..

What is it called...

Blood Frenzy?

[rich cave]

And if you level it up it gives up to 20% chance of the boon being rare

Not sure what you’re talking about

Do you mean blade rift?

That’s the thing that he turns your cast into

[winter spire]

Nooooo

Yeah its blood frezy

Blood Frenzy After using Death Defiance, deal more damage that encounter.

[rich cave]

Oh yeah that’s really good

I think the epic variation is like +30%

[winter spire]

I think my one setback rn that is holding me back is the Elysium boss fight

Just cause it takes me so long

I can do it

It just really slows me down

[rich cave]

If you don’t already, try going for Asturias first and saving your greater call for when Theseus does his call

[winter spire]

I'll try that

Might as well try something new

[dusty hawk]

Yeah I always go for asterius first

Thesis by himself would make him the easiest boss in the game

The only reason he’s a problem is cause he snipes you when you’re fighting asterius

[rich cave]

It makes it much harder when you have to fight Asturias during Theseus’s call

[dusty hawk]

Yeah

[rich cave]

So I don’t damage him at all if I can help it

[dusty hawk]

Same

[reef shoal]

Lost my first run in a while

got to arrogant with a zeus build

[rich cave]

I lost a 7 win streak today in asphodel

[dusty hawk]

The first run I lost in a while was me using guan yu spear

I died to hydra

[frank bridge]

Quick question, i get a ton of powers that can upgrade my Boon/Call but i have no idea how to get a Boon/Call. any help?

[rich cave]

I lost 2 death defiances in Tartarus and then got killed by ares in a 2 boon room

[dusty hawk]

Boon/Calls are two different things

[muted latch]

F

but why

[dusty hawk]

Calls are given from boons

[muted latch]

got a nasty Tisi combo?

[pastel cipher]

calls are boons, the call slot is infact one of the core boon slots

[dusty hawk]

Yeah

But boon is general

[pastel cipher]

it's just a mechanic that's not immediately introduced to the player

[reef shoal]

What else can you use darkness for besides mirror of night upgrades?

[dusty hawk]

Nothing

[rich cave]

I ran into an abnormal amount of shield enemies with the fists and choked the boss (||extreme measures with Alecto, lost half my health to her blade rifts||)

[dusty hawk]

I mean you can heal with it if you have to mirror of night upgrade

But that’s only in-run

[muted latch]

Tartarus dont have any shielded enemies

[pastel cipher]

there's cosmetic stuff that uses darkness

[muted latch]

and most elites in Tartarus are pretty weak

[dusty hawk]

They do

[muted latch]

unless you mean armored?

[rich cave]

That’s what I meant

[dusty hawk]

Yeah armored

[rich cave]

I just started a run and got Artemis in the first room and the next chamber reward is her again lol

[timber nexus]

Artemis loves ya

[muted latch]

good, attack + pressure points

get those big numbers

[rich cave]

Should I do rare pressure points or epic hunter dash

[frank bridge]

Found out a call is a boon thank you, but if i get a Call from someone and it says "Your Call makes you ........." Does it enable me to press "F" or do i need something to be able to use it beforehand?

[muted latch]

pressure points

save dash for athena or poseidon

[rich cave]

I use fists so dash attack is useful

Ok

[muted latch]

if you have a call boon, the call button will be useable

you dont need anything else

[frank bridge]

thank you so much @muted latch !

[muted latch]

you can tell by the new god gauge bar under your HP bar

[frank bridge]

One more question, how come ive still not met ||Demeter||, furthest ive been is the ||2nd phase of the Hades bossfight|||| (after he regens back to full hp) ||and still never seen anything about ||Demeter||

[pastel cipher]

@frank bridge ||demeter and the hades fight|| are both spoilers in this channel as an fyi

please use spoiler tags

[west patio]

Just did a no olympian run

[pastel cipher]

ty

[pastel cipher]

||Demeter should start appearing after you reach the surface for the first time|| so that leads me to believe it's RNG, if ||Demeter continues to allude you|| send in a bug report with F10 in game if on pc, send a message in #h1-tech-support if on switch

[frank bridge]

Thank you very much for the help, i appreciate it

[rich cave]

I just died to ||Charon||

My first time getting to fight them and I got absolutely destroyed

[pastel cipher]

yeah that fight can be brutal especially for a first time

[winter spire]

I've heard you could fight them

I also hear its really hard

[rich cave]

Especially with fists

I’ll have to give it another go with the shield

[knotty totem]

How frequently does ||the Charon fight opportunity|| show up and/or is there a way to force it to show up? ||I've only had the opportunity to do it twice I think, but I've done several runs in that time||

[leaden whale]

||it only shows up in middle-of-floor shops||

[rich cave]

||yeah only in middle of floor shops and I’ve heard it’s a 1/3 chance of spawning but I’m not 100% sure of that||

[leaden whale]

Do I need to unlock all the weapons ||to unlock sword aspects?||

[errant bramble]

Yeah you’re not going to see aspects before unlocking all the weapons.

[urban fox]

How do you know if you get this opportunity?

[leaden whale]

you'll know if it does, something hard to miss will appear

||(a floating obol sack)||

[urban fox]

One other thing is there a maximum amount if nectar you can give a god?

[leaden whale]

yeah

[knotty totem]

Ok great thanks!

[leaden whale]

like 6-7ish(?)

[knotty totem]

||Maybe I was just skipping all of the shops without realizing it haha||

[lone nova]

Jesus. I'm like 0/10. ||hades second form just doing me in || lol

Ahh 0/7, just got access || to that admin place||

[rustic pine]

hey all. got the game sunday, finished my first full run monday morning. only had two complete runs so far, having made it to the ||Hades|| fight 5 times total. decided to join the discord after seeing the icon on the main menu. been really enjoying the game
lmk if anything I say is unintentionally spoilery, but I should be good about it

[knotty totem]

to help you feel better about yourself, ||I think it took me like 20 something tries to get to hades||

[lone nova]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459702904400379904/793356709745786880/20201228_235549.jpg

Not down, it's fun.

Will get there eventually

[rustic pine]

I do not have access to that and didn't know you could, though I figured it was possible. only just found out what it was from ||one of the dream/memory sequences||

[lone nova]

There is ||an unlock for it from the contractor when you get further in ||

[rustic pine]

ah, kk

[errant bramble]

On the other side of the spectrum, I just managed to get hit zero times in final boss fight. First time for that lol

Acorn absorbed 5 hits tho for sure

[rustic pine]

grats

[lone nova]

Lol

[errant bramble]

And I dodged a few

[rustic pine]

acorn?

[errant bramble]

Secret acorn of amazingness

Have you not unlocked it by feeding the Oak tree in the main house

[rustic pine]

I have no idea what that means

[errant bramble]

Just find the oak tree

[lone nova]

I do decent in the beginning, but then fall apart. I think i need to switch to the death defiance. Stubborn is getting less and less useful, only dying to bosses, but who knows

[errant bramble]

||It’s trinket from Eurydice||

Kidding

Stubborn is used only for higher difficulty basically

[lone nova]

Can only afford 2 charges

[errant bramble]

You don’t want stubborn early

[lone nova]

I was told stubborn better for beginner due to dying in chambers

[rustic pine]

stubborn is the 30% one?

[lone nova]

Yea 30% every chamber

[errant bramble]

Are you ever dying in chambers?

[lone nova]

Sometimes, but not now. I kinda got the hang of it

[rustic pine]

I intentionally kill myself after clearing encounters to get myself up to 30% if I was lower

[errant bramble]

Most beginners are going to die to bosses far more often

I would expect

[lone nova]

I die in Styx though

:(

[rustic pine]

I don't think I've died there yet

[lone nova]

Satyrs just ruin me for some reason

And i can never cure

Lol

[rustic pine]

oh? I usually don't take damage from them, and I've only been poisoned once iirc

take damage from plenty of other things, tho

[lone nova]

Yah I'm bad at dodging in small area

[rustic pine]

I just dash around 24/7 and don't get poisoned there
Idk if there's much else to it, aside from avoiding poisony things

[errant bramble]

The sword trinket from ||Patroclus|| really helps against poison if that’s your issue.

[rustic pine]

btw: (spoilers for something unlocked once you complete or nearly complete a run) ||Demeter went from "there's another Olympian whose boons I have to keep track of?" to "I always want your cast boon and its associated upgrades"||

[lone nova]

I just unlocked the last mirror things. I don't understand what || gods fated authority|| does, and is there a point to picking ||gods pride over legacy||

[errant bramble]

||Fated Authority/Persuasion will change either rooms to something else (gems to gold, etc) or boons depending on which one you choose||

[floral nacelle]

Fated authority will only ever change rooms to the same type of room, blue laurel (permanent stuff) to blue laurel and gold laurel (in run stuff) to gold laurel

[rustic pine]

is there any reason you would want ||your room rewards randomized like that||? or am I misinterpreting what you said?

[lone nova]

Hmm ok interesting

Auhsol, it's so don't get x or y boons

Can kinda pinpoint a build better ish

[floral nacelle]

It’s good if you want to see a Daedalus hammer a bit earlier

Or if you really don’t want a specific god in your build

[lone nova]

Is daedlus blue laurel?

[floral nacelle]

Daedalus is gold, it doesn’t carry over between runs

[prisma hinge]

Ok jackitos for the second one ||I'd go for Pride over Legacy because Legendarys and Duos tend to be more niche than just getting an epic boon||

[lone nova]

Ahhh ok

[rustic pine]

Daedalus continues to be my favorite (for obvious reasons) and I want to shower them with nectar, but alas

[errant bramble]

Also gemstones and darkness less exciting once you don’t need them anymore

But as that person said, you use them to look for Gods

[prisma hinge]

I mean Darkness is nice if you have ||The 60% heal and the Max HP increase||

[uneven ledge]

finally got my second dd, time to get 20 keys

[leaden whale]

Hi its me again but im here for advice. i already passed mag like 15 times at this point but i just cant survive asphodel

[old escarp]

What's doing you in?

[leaden whale]

??

[prisma hinge]

where do you die

[old escarp]

You say you can't survive Asphodel, so what is causing you to die most of the time?

[uneven ledge]

like what room in particular or something

the witches can be really dangerous

[prisma hinge]

Barge of Death is also pretty dangerous

and then there's obviously Lernie

[uneven ledge]

barge of death isn't that hard

[normal arrow]

Barge of death isn't bad at all

Tbh

[uneven ledge]

just go for the crystals as soon as possible

[normal arrow]

The voidstones are difficult to deal with

yea

[prisma hinge]

I might also just be biased because of a run where I was on the barge with a Caustic curse

[uneven ledge]

they die pretty fast so it's not much of an issue

[leaden whale]

Oh i see there is no room in particular i just die there a lot

[normal arrow]

But they're only a real problem with middle management

With the elite voidstone

[uneven ledge]

learn the enemy patterns and try not to stand on the magma, it's really hot

[normal arrow]

Yep

[prisma hinge]

the bad kind of hot tho

[normal arrow]

Magma damage stacks

[prisma hinge]

not the Dionysus kind of hot

[leaden whale]

O that killed me at least 5 times

[uneven ledge]

dionysus 😳

[leaden whale]

He is tho

[normal arrow]

Aphrodite hot

Nah

[uneven ledge]

only time i died from magma is when i was just throwing the run because i had what i needed

[normal arrow]

I never throw runs

Unless I'm using guan yu

🤢

[prisma hinge]

I almost died to magma because I didn't realize I stood in it when checking boons

[uneven ledge]

how does that happen

[normal arrow]

You can take damage when choosing boons?

🤨

[uneven ledge]

the game doesn't pause

[leaden whale]

I didnt know that lava killed us so i just walked right into it and it took me 10 secs to realize that zag was dying lol

[uneven ledge]

so yes

[prisma hinge]

No I mean the boons I had

[leaden whale]

When you take chaos boons sometimes they do damage you

[prisma hinge]

Cause I was going over a build with a friend

[normal arrow]

Ohhhhh

[old escarp]

If it's just the biome in general that is giving you a hard time, take a run or two to slow down and learn enemy attack patterns and how to avoid them. Dash over magma rather than walk over it (which slows you down). Consider taking Athena when possible for Divine Dash and Sure Footing, and lastly don't be afraid to turn on God Mode if you're struggling

[normal arrow]

ik ik ik

[normal arrow]

Dashing is essential

Just in general

[uneven ledge]

athena's divine flourish with bow is really nice

[leaden whale]

Oh thnks a lot! I thought god mode was just harder lol

[normal arrow]

But especially asphodel because it's really loose

[uneven ledge]

god mode is literally the opposite of hard lmao

[leaden whale]

Yea i see now

[old escarp]

Nope! God Mode is the assistive mode that provides a gradually increasing base damage reduction. Hell Mode is the hard mode

God Mode can be toggled on and off in the settings at any time, so if down the road you decide you no longer need it, just disable it

Hell Mode, on the other hand, can only be turned on for a new save file and never turned off

[leaden whale]

Ohh i see thanks!

[leaden whale]

omg i beat Meg 😭

[lone nova]

Nice nice

[leaden whale]

with just 5 health left goddamn

[old escarp]

Congrats!

[normal arrow]

WOW clutch

GG

[prisma hinge]

Good luck for Asphodel

[lone nova]

Meg gets annoying with the spinny projectiles

[leaden whale]

oo

[lone nova]

Pew pew pew

[drowsy plover]

Meg is the easiest one, wait until you see her sisters

[normal arrow]

Tisiphone is the hardest at first.

At least for me she was

But she gradually got easier

Alecto is the most difficult though

[drifting island]

tis became the easiest for me

alecto is the hardest for me yeah

[normal arrow]

The only real difficulty with tis is the fact that chain attacks aren't effective

But that's it

Her attacks are weakest against Athena boons

[drowsy plover]

Yeah I had problems with Tisiphone at first but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Alecto is still rather difficult yes but at least I can beat her without activating my death defiance anymore lol

[leaden whale]

speaking of Athena, I've only ever got her gifts once

is there a reason for that or just bad luck?

[prisma hinge]

bad luck

[drowsy plover]

It's RNG. I rarely get Hermes

[waxen basin]

You only get 2 Hermes per run

And you always get 2

[drowsy plover]

Oh makes sense

[waxen basin]

Yeah just like the hammer

[uneven ledge]

tisiphone is one of those fights where it's like really crazy the first time but after that you just happen to no-hit it or something

alecto is actually the hardest one by far

[atomic drift]

Is there a way to hear Zagreus dialogues when accepting Boon all the time? my character wont say it anytmore. anyone?

[uneven ledge]

sometimes there's just no dialogue lol

better to skip straight to the boons anyways

[atomic drift]

yea i wanna hear them always but it wont say after sometime in the game

[uneven ledge]

well it's not an option, or a bug. did you think they'd really make the voice actors do more work than they already have?

[atomic drift]

no