h1-for-new-players

[cyan thistle]

Hermes is pretty good imo

Also Skelly and Cerberus are both good

[long quiver]

hmm, what do they give?

[cinder pulsar]

Skelly gives a keepsake that gives you a free Death Defiance when equipped, Cerberus gives you one that flat raises your max health

[long quiver]

ooh sounds helpful, thx ill go for those then

[floral nacelle]

Yeah, collar is a solid choice

[snow quarry]

Ooh had no idea you could gift to cerberus

I currently have dusa's because because i like getting healed

[prime fox]

||thanatos|| always leaves before I get the chance to talk to him. Any way to avoid this?

[opaque kraken]

@prime fox he sticks around every now and then, but he'll show up in the house on occaision

[prime fox]

oh thanks

[opaque kraken]

||his keepsake is the best imo||

[snow quarry]

I got my first heroic boone

It was poseidon's cast

[opaque kraken]

Heroics are a sidegrade kinda, depends on whose boon it is

[stoic spear]

why isnt nyx asking me about the ||aspect|| i did everything

[cinder pulsar]

I think you need to exhaust all of her other conversation options before it shows up

[stoic spear]

oh

[buoyant thunder]

Well, you've activated the trigger for the conversation to reveal itself. But it is only a chance that it will happen

[knotty grail]

Is there any use for the ||Harp|| in your room?

[silk swift]

Yes

There is a quest related to it

[knotty grail]

Also, if I'm already asking. Couple of extra questions 🙂

1. How Rarity improve boon? POM seems to be adding potency. Higher rarity of the exact base effect but with higher base potency (so, if rare would add 15 damage at Level 1, Epic would add 20 damage at level 2)?
2. Seems to be there's some diminishing effect on POM upgrades. I can see it goes up to 6. I assume at some point it's not worth the point? Level 3? 4?
3. Sometimes there's boon that give % of Crit for example. I sit possible to know what's my Crit chance? or what the base damage so I can tell if flat damage is better then % damage?

[knotty grail]

Ha. Thanks. I have couple of NPCs at Max Necter. But I didn't actually unlocked any quests yet for some reason (on my 12th successful run).

[silk swift]

Rarity improves base value and scaling

The specific numbers are in the wiki

Poms are definitely not linear

I'm not sure about crit math, I think it's additive

[pastel cipher]

rarity doesn't improve scaling

crit damage is also multiplicative

[fallen canyon]

@pastel cipher crit is multiplicative?

[pastel cipher]

yep

[knotty grail]

Scaling = Pom scaling?

[silk swift]

How does it not improve scaling?

[fallen canyon]

thats interesting

[pastel cipher]

all increasing rarity does is increase the base damage/the primary thing scaled of a boon

it does nothing to how boons scale with levels

[fallen canyon]

so like if i have 5% crit and get another 5% its now a 25% crit?

[pastel cipher]

no, crit chances are additive

the damage is multiplicative

[fallen canyon]

ah oki

[silk swift]

So you're saying a 50 damage base common boon might get 10 per level and a 100 damage heroic will still only get 10?

[pastel cipher]

not exactly, how much boons improve per level diminishes the more the level the same boon

[silk swift]

I know that

I'm asking if boons always get the same increase per level from a pom regardless their rarity

I know it'll go like 10/8/5 etc

But is it same number for a common, epic etc

Or will the Epic go 14/12/10

[gray haven]

The base value is always Lv.1 common. Rarity bonus and pom bonus are additive.

So yes, it's the same number.

[remote glen]

Hey guys, so I did my first heat2 run till Tartarus, got the furies (and blood) then got rekt by Charon. Back to the house, bought a limited sale Blood and none of them appear in my inventory. Next run took the spear for my first and the 2 bloods from the spear run appear normally

Will the 2 bloods from the previous run appear ? Like if I unlock more stuff?

[upbeat mason]

i don't quite get it but each weapons has their own bounty

[ancient junco]

and each amount of heat too

[upbeat mason]

and you need to clear the game at your current heat level to unlock the next bounty

(tracked separately for each weapons)

[remote glen]

Yeah but since it's my first heat run, i get blood from Heat 2 run right?

(its shown in the reward icon)

i dont get why this wouldnt show in my inventory?

do I need to clear the game with each weapon before getting blood from heat run?

[fallen canyon]

no

[magic urchin]

should i use dash at cursor or not?

[thorny bobcat]

you should use a controller

[magic urchin]

but i use only keyboard and mouse

[fallen canyon]

no

[magic urchin]

for m&k what should i use?

[fallen canyon]

use space dash

[full depot]

I dont like dash to cursor

[magic urchin]

ok

[full depot]

it lets you dash and attack different places if you have it off

which is godly

[vestal reef]

I honestly don't get why people keep recommending controller. I might just be used to it or dumb but MK is much quicker and accurate for me than a controller

[thin sleet]

feel free to swap cast and special buttons around depending on your needs

[vestal reef]

Is the main thing the WASD movement being less accurate?

[full depot]

i saw the game said controller is recommended but honestly after playing for a while i love mk

[thorny bobcat]

I was joking, you just gotta use whatever you feel more comfortable with

for me this type of game feels awkward to play with kbm so I prefer a controller

[full depot]

Sure

It's all person preference in the end

[lavish skiff]

my goal is to beat hydra

[fringe raven]

I played for two days and got kicked in the butt by big underworld dad just now ;-; but this game is awesome i love it with all my heart

I still dont get some of the rules and the boons and i used to think i wont like this game bc it makes you start over every time you die, but after i tried for the first time i was addicted and now i cant stop send help-

[magic urchin]

i cant beat minitaur and thesius or smt !

[fathom crown]

Is it spoilers in this channel to talk about the ||Temple of Styx|| zone? I have questions

[ancient junco]

yes

maybe in sotry and spoilers but idk

[fathom crown]

Good to know, thanks

[long crest]

so im using hazard bomb

with hestia

is that a bad idea?

[opaque geyser]

Why would it be?

[analog sparrow]

how do you guys play with melee weapons?

I still don't have any clear with fist and sword

while my bow/shield/rail are above 10

[honest sundial]

I am really interested in this game, but would like to play it on my preferred platform which is PSN. Anyone know if there are any plans to release it there?

Also, I have played Rogue-Likes before and tend to be fairly unsuccessful at them (to say the least sigh). How skill dependent is this game? Considering the focus on the story based on some reviews I read, I would hope to be able to make it to the end, but that could depend on my gameplay success, which is again, suspect. ;_;

[vestal reef]

You're probably not gonna get to the credits without somewhat getting skilled at the game, but there is a easy mode if you really just want to experience the story. Buy it on steam, plug that badboy PS controller in your computer, play for a bit. Don't like it and have under 2 hours of playtime? You can easily refund it.

@honest sundial

[honest sundial]

I do have a PC, but again, my preferred platform is PSN.

Also, if I can't beat the game on normal, then I will just have to by Sisyphus and keep pushing that boulder uphill. I don't want to play it on baby mode if I can avoid it.

[full depot]

sword with the second aspect is stupid good @analog sparrow

[vestal reef]

Will Hades ever come to other platforms?
We launched v1.0 of Hades only on Nintendo Switch, Steam, and the Epic Games Store. We'll be considering opportunities to bring the game to additional platforms down the line. Thank you for your interest.

[analog sparrow]

I always die to the laser

[full depot]

oh just hide behind the pillars

[analog sparrow]

it's so hard to dodge with melee weapons

[full depot]

you have to be patient with melee weapons

look for openings before you strike

[vestal reef]

You talking about ||Hades lasers?||

[full depot]

prolly should spoiler that?

[honest sundial]

@vestal reef That is disappointing.

[vestal reef]

@honest sundial What makes you prefering to have it on your PSN?

[honest sundial]

I find the achievement system on PSN far more appealing. Playing on PS4 is plug and play, and as a lifelong console gamer, consoles will always remain my preference.

[vestal reef]

I can understand that. Well, either you wait for a PS port. Or try it on Steam, because like I said, Steam are very easy when it comes to refunding.

[honest sundial]

That is true, though I have never made use of the refund feature.

[midnight grail]

i can attest to the fact that steam refunds are extremely straightforward

[full depot]

How does the game decide what perks are shown on victory scene

[midnight grail]

aslong as requirements are met the money is back in your wallet with relative ease

[vestal reef]

I've actually had a game with 4 hours playtime and still get it refunded @midnight grail

[full depot]

I want to display specific perks is there some way I can do that?

[leaden whale]

myth you can change it yourself

[midnight grail]

yea theres exceptions depending on your refund reason iirc

[leaden whale]

there's like a marker

[full depot]

Oh how

[vestal reef]

I suppose they make execptions at time, got to be lucky your refund guy is in a good mood

[leaden whale]

click on the perks that are being shown

[full depot]

Okay I'll try it next clear, thanks

[leaden whale]

to remove them

[midnight grail]

Gonna start my first run in the next couple of days after my uni term is done, anything i want to know beforehand? Specific weapons that are useful i could try to get early on for example? So far the twin fists are really enticing me since i love punching hard

[vestal reef]

You unlock weapons in order, and fairly early

[full depot]

Twin fists are really fun, all weapons are pretty good though I guess shield might be best

[leaden whale]

be wise with spending titan blood

[midnight grail]

ah i was not aware. that makes it a little better then since i know ill get it at some point

[leaden whale]

also stuff each character with nectar at least once

[subtle granite]

except dad, he is mean about it

[analog sparrow]

@midnight grail shield of chaos is easy mode. I use that to streak from 1 to 20 heats quickly. You can use the materials to upgrade other weapons.

[subtle granite]

shield (of any aspect) is nice and safe

[midnight grail]

yea i was spectating my friends playthrough with the shield and it seems like the safest bet

[honest sundial]

That might be the case, but I would not be refunded the sales tax if I went that route.

[vestal reef]

@honest sundial Doesn't seem like you have any more options here mate.

[midnight grail]

regarding the weapon unlocks, im looking at the rail and it seems to put out a huge chunk of damage. is it a good choice for when its unlocked or do i need to get the aspects first to make it viable?

[vestal reef]

Imo, they're all viable, it all depends on your boons and what build you got.

Try all of them multiple times if you wish to see which ones fits you the most.

[full depot]

i finished with rail first time

with the standard unupgraded rail

was funny cause i had it marked as the worst weapon and was only playing it for the darkness boost

[vestal reef]

Rail seems to be a major hit or miss.

[full depot]

oh yea i think i agree, when you get the explosive ammo hammer it just shoots to a whole new level

[fathom crown]

How good is the second bow aspect, really?

[subtle granite]

chiron is great maxed, a straight up downgrade on lvl 1

[full depot]

What are good boons for the special on chiron

[subtle granite]

dio, demeter

if you plan on the ares stack boon, ares would be ok too

[opaque geyser]

Rail is good in so many ways, just need to build it correctly. E.g., don't use Deadly strike unless you're using Hestia.

[subtle granite]

and if you get cllusterbomb on eris you can just immediately dance on ||father dearest's|| grave

[opaque geyser]

Most people tend to go Deadly or Drunken Flourish, with Heart Rend or the Dio+Aphro duo respectively

[subtle granite]

that reminds me, artemis would also be nice on chiron's special

[full depot]

is dio worth it, like he doesnt add a lot of damage does he

i tried artemis

[subtle granite]

he does more damage than you think

[full depot]

it was underwhelming

but also my chiron isnt fully upgraded

so maybe that is why

[subtle granite]

dio common alone does 50 damage per second

it just seems like not alot cause you usually get the enemies dowe fast enough

[opaque geyser]

Don't use unupgraged Chiron

[subtle granite]

but with bow (the slowest weapon on the game, see any speedrunning logs from before eris)

[full depot]

the problem i had with artemis is i cant get a status effect and have to rely on some third attack to activate priv status

[opaque geyser]

At 1 blood, it's pretty bad

[subtle granite]

^

[opaque geyser]

Then... don't use Priv Status?

[subtle granite]

well if you have aphro on attack, artemis on special and get their duo it can be insane

[full depot]

can i get the duo with artemis dash?

[subtle granite]

priv status is already better with just one status than family favorite with max gods

so getting aphro and artemis with marked is nice

[full depot]

im not sure how to make use of marked with priv, like it hits a secondary target right so it becomes very hard to manipulate on bosses

[subtle granite]

aphro attack - artemis special, their duo, artemis marked
MELT

well with ||father dearest|| his projectiles count

and you will get this build mostly late game so it only really counts with heroes and him

[full depot]

what dash would you recommend

[subtle granite]

but else thats just a build where artemis really decimate

athena since bow recommends dashattacks so you still have dash-safety

else artemis cause dashattack

[vestal reef]

||so what does boiling blood really do? I'm guessing it make you take increased damage?|| Final boss spoiler

[full depot]

yes thats what it does

you have an ability called boiling blood on your mirror

[subtle granite]

Boiling blood: Each rank gives you +10% Attack & Special damage to foes with Cast Ammo in them.
so if you get your casts into the boss you do more damage

[full depot]

that attack he does is basically him doing a cast same as you do

[subtle granite]

^

omg they are even called the same thing

i am stupid

[full depot]

yep

[opaque geyser]

I really prefer family favorite, it's more consistent and immediate, better for rooms

[full depot]

it took me a while to realize too

[subtle granite]

i never cared about the mirror upgrade names lmao

[full depot]

I love priv status

can get it online right from first boss easily

[subtle granite]

if you dont have specific builds in mind, go for it

[full depot]

its especially awesome cause aphrodite is so awesome

[subtle granite]

but once you get on higher heat you will get to building specific boon combos and just getting two status affects alone is already better than max family favorite

[opaque geyser]

and then once you get to higher heat, you can't count on getting that many boons that you want anymore

[subtle granite]

thats why you force em

[opaque geyser]

Approval Process, Routine Inspection, Underworld Customs

[subtle granite]

always force in tartarus and asphodel, then if you feel unsafe with heroes acorn, then if unsafe with endboss acorn again

[full depot]

I mean you have keepsakes to force boons pretty easily

[subtle granite]

^

[opaque geyser]

At higher heats you eventually lose boon choices, rerolls, and have to purge

[subtle granite]

routine inspection only gives you less chance for epic/rare/leg/duo boons, it doesnt really destroy your chance of status curse boons

[full depot]

my default setup is usually aphrodite floor 1, athena floor 2 and whatever im missing floor 3

[subtle granite]

purge isnt even that bad since you can almost always purge hermes

[full depot]

how does hermes work btw if i purge him is he added back into the pool?

[subtle granite]

and in tartarus just save money for the shop, beg for a bad boon, done

[full depot]

so if i get a bad hermes roll is purging better?

[subtle granite]

you can get max 2 hermes

[full depot]

yea was asking in relation to that

[subtle granite]

so he is always in the pool

if you have less than 2 boons of him (like if you purged) you can get a chance to see him again

[full depot]

oh nice i havent used purging a lot

[subtle granite]

thats what i personally witnessed but idk how consistent it is

i purge hermes a lot if i need coin

his boons are nice but i dont feel like i need them

[full depot]

I mean the extra dashes is a game winner most of the time for me

[subtle granite]

ok extra dashes (if not common) is sexy

[vestal reef]

Quick Recovery aswell

[full depot]

is the attack speed or special speed worth it on any weapon?

[subtle granite]

quick recovery is only good if you feel like you take a lot of damage

[floral nacelle]

I don't like quick recovery as much, you shouldn't be taking damage

that's why I prefer hyper sprint

[subtle granite]

it is only really noticeable on 4th sword but not really

[full depot]

i havent used quick recovery a lot, i usually end up dashing before the attack so if i get hit i dont have a dash to recovery anyway

[subtle granite]

flurry cast is a great purge boon

[full depot]

oh btw is dark foresight better or olympian favor?

[subtle granite]

dark foresight

but olympian favor is great if you dont go for gods pride

[full depot]

was gonna ask is pride better or legacy

[leaden whale]

depends on what your build needs

[subtle granite]

depends on your build

[leaden whale]

if it can do well without a duo you want pride

if it's something like ME you want legacy

[subtle granite]

thighs, our lord and savior 😻

[full depot]

what's ME?

[leaden whale]

merciful end

it's an athena/ares duo

i can't even save myself

[subtle granite]

:c

[full depot]

oh is there any weapon in particular i should try to get ME on?

[leaden whale]

merciful end builds are not good without, well, merciful end

yes

zeus shield and uh

i forgot

fists

those two are the ones that are good with ME builds me thinks

but it's a little annoying to get for me so i almost never build it

[full depot]

what about fated authority vs persuasion

[leaden whale]

persuasion so you can reroll boons

[subtle granite]

but you make the chat brighter and filled with laughter and revelry ;-;

[full depot]

does persuasion reroll the same rarity

[subtle granite]

what do you mean by that?

[full depot]

so if i reroll epic boon do i get another epic boon?

[subtle granite]

like if you get athena dash common if it will only be common in rerolls?

you get 3 choices whenever you reroll

the boons and their rarities change in the rerolls

[full depot]

is the rarity of the choices different from the original offer is what i mean

like say i got offered two rares and one epic

then if i reroll will i get 2 rares and 1 epic

[subtle granite]

i honestly dont know without olympians favor and gods pride :c

with them i always had at least one rare and one epic

[old escarp]

Rarity is not guaranteed to stay the same when rerolling

[full depot]

oh cool

ive been using authority cause its cheaper to upgrade and really enjoy getting rid of obol rooms

[subtle granite]

the rolling dice has the reroll wisdom 🙏

you dont like obol rooms??

[full depot]

other gold laurels just seem better in almost all cases?

[subtle granite]

well late run not really, early run maybe

[full depot]

is it because of the cost increase?

[subtle granite]

except you do tend to get poms which can be problematic in early run...

that too yeah

personally i love to stack stack stack obols so going to middle markets actually gets me something

[full depot]

i mean wouldnt the cost increase technically make obol rooms less valuable since the 100 gold's value just dropped down and anything else you roll on there will have a higher gold value than it

[fluid stirrup]

Getting a boon from tart mid shop is something you usually want

[subtle granite]

well once you get two hammers you cant get any more, poms are pretty meh imo, i'd rather get more boons and you will get safely one boon in every mid market

tart shop boons are usually really desired yeha

the more boons in the beginning the easier is asphodel lol

[full depot]

hmm i havent had to struggle for gold really

the only thing i had problem affording is the stuff in final floor

but i guess thats because low heat

[subtle granite]

i usually plan my run to get as much in styx market as possible

but thats just me

since you can get an additional dia or anything like that there and if you're missing duos they're there too

[full depot]

does styx market have a higher chance of giving duos or legendaries?

[subtle granite]

technically yes since all other boons will be gone till there

realitywise theres no statistics for it

[full depot]

also another question i had was can i not change the song orpheus' song or have i just not unlocked the option yet?

[fluid stirrup]

All my Hermes legendaries I've gotten there lol

Don't lnow if increases chance tho but seems like it

[subtle granite]

hermes legendaries require at least one boon so yeah getting the additional ones there does mean there is a probability for a leg instead of none

[odd talon]

plyaed for 3 hours havent beaten the first boss yet

but love the game

[cunning sleet]

i have a problem with de game

someone help me?

[subtle granite]

for the duos i explain it to myself that in styx market you will safely have the requirements for the duo and the main boons will be taken and an exchange in the shops is pretty rare

[subtle granite]

is it a game or tech question?

[odd talon]

how do i beat meg

[cunning sleet]

tech question

[subtle granite]

learn her patterns and dash correctly

[odd talon]

yeah but like an easier answer

[subtle granite]

then #h1-tech-support will help you

easier answer?

get gud?

[vestal reef]

what is an easier answer lol

[old escarp]

There's no trick to it, really. If you want the safest option, try using the shield because you can block attacks

[vestal reef]

But yes, study her, sooner or later you can predict her.

[subtle granite]

shield and furies isnt that nice tho because of their summoning attacks

[odd talon]

an easier answer is an answer that lets me get good at the game without getting good at the game

[leaden whale]

god mode

[subtle granite]

^

[odd talon]

^^

[subtle granite]

god mode and lots and lots of dying

[vestal reef]

Easy mode

[subtle granite]

her pattern is pretty easy to understand after like 5 collides with her

gl with her sisters

[odd talon]

so if I couldnt beat her alone

[vestal reef]

oh dont worry, they wont gang up on you 3v1.

yet.

[buoyant thunder]

So what might you consider a good build for Aspect of Hestia? I'm not too sure how to capitalize off it's ability

[harsh leaf]

Treat it like a ranged 4th Sword. Big chonky crits

[verbal cosmos]

How long does it take to beat hades. Like how many escapes usually?

[old escarp]

That's very subjective, so there's not really an easy answer to that

Also depends on what you consider "beating" the game

[harsh leaf]

People take between 15 to 50 runs to get their first clear

[buoyant thunder]

I've seen an average of about 20 to 23 runs for the first victory

[verbal cosmos]

Like killing the final boss the first time

Oh ok thanks

[buoyant thunder]

But like 4th queen said, it may certainly take more

[sage thicket]

I got like my fist at 30 and second at 35

[vestal reef]

17 here, so around 20 is definatly average

[subtle granite]

80 here because i'm old

[glad vortex]

still at like 30, only got to temple once

sadge

[leaden whale]

you'll get there!

may your runs be blessed

[glad vortex]

Minotaur is a nightmare with anything other than bow or shield

[vestal reef]

Here, with melee. When he does his first two swings, back away at a safe distance, dash towards him when he does his leap afterwards, then quickly return to him and bash away at his old hairy back.

[subtle granite]

dash dash dash

you can dash through him while he tries to decimate you in front of him then you can just hit his backsite with no repercussions

really nice with achilles spear ;)

random uwu disappeared

[leaden whale]

owo what's this?

[subtle granite]

a conversation about asterius being easy to dodge ;w;

[glad vortex]

Still surprised the modding community isn't working on a full dating sim

[leaden whale]

||owo what's this is a meme||

yes i would like to date dio

my cousin

(?)

[subtle granite]

||i know||

[vestal reef]

Hades is a dating sim with roguelike elemts, wdym

[leaden whale]

||i see||

||spoiler tag||

[subtle granite]

well it has potential for more dating ;))))

[subtle granite]

||spoiler gag||

[glad vortex]

No threesome with Nyx and Meg, no cuckolding orpheus

Yet

[subtle granite]

idk why but dating mother nyx seems wrong

even with the intense incest on olympus

we only talk pg

[leaden whale]

bro what do you have against orphy

mans sad enough

[glad vortex]

Thanatos is your stepbro

[leaden whale]

[subtle granite]

yeah i kinda never thought of him as brother cause i came into the game knowing of ||hades and persephone|| being exclusive

[pulsar frigate]

hey

reminder that this is still a PG server

[glad vortex]

Alright XD

[subtle granite]

ahhh

[leaden whale]

[subtle granite]

pg and greek mythology is hard to ballance

strugglin on the inside and outside

[pulsar frigate]

i'm just gonna point y'all at rule 2 and go, but please keep this in mind that Hades specifically avoids talking about such icky subjects from real greek mythology, and sgg went to great lengths to cut out most of it

and it simply would be appreciated to keep most of that kind of discussion to a minimum

[dense laurel]

besides, this is new players channel

[brittle lagoon]

how do you use titan blood?

[buoyant thunder]

When you go to the aspects selection for a weapon, you can use titan's blood to upgrade an aspect

[brittle lagoon]

but i cant interact with it

[buoyant thunder]

You can also sell titan's blood for ambrosia at the broker

What do you mean?
It is possible you haven't gotten far enough in the story yet

[brittle lagoon]

do i need to beat the father first

?

[buoyant thunder]

And to answer your next question, you don't have to play for too terribly long.

No, not at all

[brittle lagoon]

then I'm not sure how come I didn't unlock it by now

[buoyant thunder]

I imagine a run or two will do the trick. Tbh, I really do not remember

[old escarp]

Do you have all the weapons unlocked?

[brittle lagoon]

nope, is that it?

[old escarp]

Yes, you need them all unlocked first

[brittle lagoon]

thanks!

[buoyant thunder]

Ohhh, I did not know that. Thanks Wightfyre for clearing that up: for the both of us 😁

[visual python]

I’ve done 21 runs

Cleared 4 times

Am I going too fast

[vestal reef]

nope, the game is pretty good at making sure no one misses any content or story

[harsh leaf]

nah

[visual python]

Okay good. I was kinda worried

My fourth run was my first clear so I didn’t wanna make it so I was missing content

I had an amazing build for that run however, had the sword with the heal upon hits hammer, but then also I had the Athena call and the one bar call boon but it recharges super quick. And it was amazing

[ancient junco]

Yeah I was worried I was going too fast at some point too

Don't worry though

[visual python]

Oh sorry

The boxing gloves, are they really bad or is it just me?

[ancient junco]

At first glance many weapons will seem bad but you'll find out at some point that every weapon has potential

[visual python]

Also I have a load of ambrosia

But no one to use it on

How do I use it?

[ancient junco]

You'll need it in the future keep it

[visual python]

Okay. I have like 11?

I think

[ancient junco]

Keep stacking them and it's gonna make your life easier

[visual python]

Is that a lot?

Okay I will do

[full depot]

i turned all my ambrosia into titan blood, bad idea?

[ancient junco]

Well kinda

[visual python]

Sword is my fave weapon. I love it a lot

[full depot]

rip

[visual python]

I’ve been tryna wife Meg

That’s not working no matter how much nectar I give her

[ancient junco]

Oh believe me you are gonna switch so many fave weapons

[visual python]

I like the sword, the spear, and the bow

Hate the rail gun, the boxing gloves and the shield is meh

[full depot]

i like gloves gun and shield LUL

[visual python]

Lmfaoo exact opposites

[ancient junco]

Most likely your opinions will keep changing again and again

You'll understand

[visual python]

Shield is too campy/defensive. Gloves are too close but no real damage negation, and gun my god the reload makes me wanna top myself

[dusk elk]

4th bow is my favorite to use even though I’m better with achilles or any fists

[ancient junco]

And better keep your ambrosia guys when it's time to exchange you'll do

[full depot]

yea but aphrodite and ares best forever

[visual python]

Naa naa, I love Demeter the most

[dusk elk]

The recent change to achilles made it so much more usable imo

[visual python]

That chill effect

So good

[dusk elk]

Free dash that’s extra long

[visual python]

Obsessed with it

[ancient junco]

Shhh they don't know yet

[visual python]

Have I met Achilles change?

[dusk elk]

if you press special twice it activates instantly

[ancient junco]

Stop you are spoiling them

[visual python]

Idk what that is

Achilles is never in the house

[brittle lagoon]

i unlocked all weapons but i still cant put titan blood

[ancient junco]

Nah not spoiler but it's gonna be more fun finding out on your own

[brittle lagoon]

how do i start using titan blood?

[visual python]

I think you gotta get to hades with the weapon

That’s how it happens for me

At least

[ancient junco]

I don't rly know when I learned I how to use blood I could already

Took me a while to realise

[brittle lagoon]

i did

[visual python]

You have to have beaten hades though?

[brittle lagoon]

i almost beat him last time

[visual python]

That’s how mine did it

Man that’s so good you’ll get him next time for sure

[ancient junco]

Maybe you have to beat him

[visual python]

The way my heart is racing in hades fights

Lmao

I hate them stupid skulls so bad

Oh sorry

Profanity

[ancient junco]

Lol

[visual python]

I forget discord is used by younger kids sometimes and I’ve got younger siblings so I’m trying to watch myself when I type here.

[ancient junco]

Nah I'm chill all the way I've played so many harder games that hades (is hard but) can't make me nervous

[visual python]

Ahahah I’ve just wrapped up bloodborne and am playing demon souls now

I’ve played harder

[ancient junco]

You just said stupid chill

[visual python]

😂

Lmao

[ancient junco]

Oh

[visual python]

Yeah it’s deffos not the hardest game, but boss fights always get the blood pumping

[ancient junco]

But they are good bosses

[visual python]

Oh for sure

Fave is deffos the fury

In case of spoilers

[ancient junco]

So you've unlocked punishments right?

[visual python]

???

Like the heat challenge thing?

Yeah

[ancient junco]

Yes

Try the boss one

[visual python]

I’ve cleared 4 times so far

With 1 regular, 3 with one heat which was the extra enemies one

[ancient junco]

Yeah but finding out the boss upgrades is interesting even if it makes them kinda harder

[visual python]

I’ll do that one then

[ancient junco]

Especially the furies you'll find something interesting

[visual python]

Oh okay

That sounds really cool

[dire spindle]

Update I have unlock all the weapons

I been using the sword most of the time with the god of war boons

[verbal cosmos]

Is the gun good? Or how cuz idk how to use them

Bow*

[dire spindle]

The gun is ok

If you like fast shooting and bomb attack

[leaden whale]

all weapons r cool

[deft wren]

all weapons are cool. Except the ||gun|| on console.

[leaden whale]

wym u got aimbot

[deft wren]

On the main shots, but the special is pretty annoying to use, and it’s pretty much required on ||Lucifer|| aspect.

[dire spindle]

For me i been using the keyboard and Mouse control

[mellow mica]

[dire spindle]

The control feel good

Besides there a keyboard settings

And Mouse support

Besides I mostly play games on my pc nowadays

[harsh leaf]

Gun feels great on controller mang

[midnight grail]

Am about an hour and 10 in, have just gotten the spear and ho-ly do i love it even more than the shield. the stagger is unbelievable. any gods i should look out for when using it that would greatly benefit me?

[harsh leaf]

Spear is versatile, you can make anything work

||Unfortunately it kinda sucks at everything equally||

[midnight grail]

shame. Ill keep going as much as i can with it. so far it seems to fit me quite well

[ancient junco]

Yeah that's true spear can be weird

Every weapon has potential it's just better to keep playing with what you have fun with rather than what is op

[midnight grail]

i know i wont get them right now, but what about the ||aspects for the spear?|| which ones are useful?

i wanna have my sight set early on just so i start thinking about how im going to build each weapon

[harsh leaf]

They're all better than base spear

Achilles is the "consensus best", but they're all okay

Even the 4th spear

If you're this new, however, dont even worry about that

Just keep playing the game

[subtle granite]

achilles spear is amazing, 4th spear is a hard personal hit or miss and hades is good by itself but takes some getting along with

[midnight grail]

oh no yea im aware, its just i always think of my endgame builds early on. im a warframe and destiny player lol i start building immediately when i can

[analog sparrow]

I usually play special spear with Artermis for sick crit dmg. I just use the base spear.

[ancient junco]

In depends on what you like if you are an aggressive type but you still want to play spear achilles is a good choice

[harsh leaf]

You dont have to make choices this early, or at all in this game

Dont worry

[ancient junco]

While on ||guan yu|| you need to balance defence and offense to succeed

[midnight grail]

got it. time to stabbo enemies to death

[analog sparrow]

I think the problem with spear is that it relies on good hammer upgrade too much

[midnight grail]

when the ||achilles aspect|| says return after doing raging rush, is that the dash+attack move? final question before i go back to stabbing

[subtle granite]

i have put a few tips on what the spear strong points are in i think #h1-discussion if you really look for some help/advice but else just have fun with it

[midnight grail]

@subtle granite ill definitely check them out when i can.

[subtle granite]

achilles damage boost is after hitting special twice

[ancient junco]

Just experiment with the weapons and you'll find your charm

[midnight grail]

ooooh, special twice to retrieve the weapon gives the boost? @subtle granite

[subtle granite]

twice to jump to where you threw the weapon

[midnight grail]

if thats correct that sounds really good actually

[subtle granite]

it's like a dash just with you jumping to there

try it on skelly - it really is interesting hah

[midnight grail]

so instead of it coming back you go to the actual spear and get the boost?

[subtle granite]

yes

[midnight grail]

holy

thats gonna be one of the first things i try to get later lmao

[subtle granite]

it's very good for camping enemies spawn points

[midnight grail]

my idea is if i can get anti armor on my special as a boon then i can just prime enemies with that then

and use the regular to stagger

[ancient junco]

You can bring it back to if you press attack again

[midnight grail]

in my head that sounds like it could work rn and with that aspect lol

[subtle granite]

since you can "teleport" yourself with the special to there quickly, hold down attack for the spin and as the enemies spawn in you do up to 250 damage with no attack boon

[midnight grail]

oh no yea i did that with skelly

[midnight grail]

does the charge start while you are jumping to it?

or as soon as you land

[subtle granite]

never looked at when it started, i think after you land

[midnight grail]

because i know it prevents movement when you begin charging it

ah okay

[subtle granite]

well you do damage if you jump through enemies that way so i'd assume when oyu land first

else you would lose a potential hit

[midnight grail]

makes sense yea

Ty for the info! ill read up on your mini guide soon, time to stab my way to ||hades|| lol

[subtle granite]

hehe have fun and may the gods grant you a nice run!

[ancient junco]

Be careful to not make them upset!!!

[midnight grail]

welp. just beat the first boss.

seems like stabbing is the way lol

[subtle granite]

poke your way to victory

[glad vortex]

Zeus shield + athena is nuts lol

what even is a projectile

[vapid marten]

I am still kinda stuck with Meg. although I am not the best player and it took me too much hours not to constantly die

[dense laurel]

if u get too stuck, u can try godmode

[vapid marten]

hmmm, I will try that. thanks

[midnight grail]

ah i keep forgetting theres a filter

i just killed ||hydra|| first attempt and im shaking that was sick

[old escarp]

Congrats, Alex!

[vapid marten]

yay!!

[glad vortex]

Wait for her to dash, then counter. Don't stick too close to her. When she does the splash thing, dash away. Her little green projectiles can be stopped by most attacks (including all basic left mouse attacks)

[vapid marten]

OHHHH, that was extremely helpful!!! thank you so much!!! @glad vortex

[visual python]

@vapid marten if you find athena get her dash deflect

does mega damage

[vapid marten]

noted!! thank you @visual python

[quiet flower]

Hi

Is athena broken

If yes i think i caught onto it

[glad vortex]

Athena dash simply too good compared to the others

[old escarp]

Broken as in...? OP?

[brave solstice]

It depends

[quiet flower]

Yes

[subtle granite]

depends on the build/||heat||

[quiet flower]

I used it and it carried me through first boss woman

[old escarp]

I wouldn't say broken, but she offers very good survivability

[quiet flower]

And those weird bomb throwing things

[glad vortex]

It combos well with basically everything

[dense laurel]

it help u survive, but doesnt rly synergize with everything

theres better boon if u want to make certain builds

[fallen canyon]

athena dash is pretty nice

but pos dash is also amazing

[subtle granite]

the other dashes are weird

especially getting used to aphro/dio after poseidon

[glad vortex]

1st run after win, demeter seems a little weak

[cyan thistle]

chill on attack feels not bad imo

i’m not a big fan of her call tho

[subtle granite]

||demeter|| cast is a free hydra win

[leaden whale]

I like chill attack a lot on spear

[glad vortex]

Hydra feels like second easiest boas behind meg

[dense laurel]

u get better results with zeus calls

[subtle granite]

for those who suffer with hydra tho it really is a free win

[dense laurel]

some ppl cant even play EM2 hdra tho, so its not that easy

[glad vortex]

Angry crackhead sister hella hard though

[dense laurel]

its kinda easy tho

[subtle granite]

i personally find hydra easy but if find coming close to it hard, ||demeter|| cast really is just free win

[dense laurel]

dem cast is just b a d

[subtle granite]

nah

[leaden whale]

nop

[subtle granite]

personal matter

[leaden whale]

meme beam

[subtle granite]

^ that too

[dense laurel]

thats like saying eris isnt better than most wep coz its personal matter

[subtle granite]

there really isnt any boon that is b a d other than dio dash maybe

[subtle granite]

uhm, exactly?

[hybrid lagoon]

how does one unlock the 2 empty weapon slots

[subtle granite]

some people really hate rail

[dense laurel]

kek watever floats ur boat i guess

[subtle granite]

thats the norm

ok?

[dense laurel]

or in this game context, floats ur barge of death

[harsh leaf]

Meme Beam is fine. It deals a ton of damage. It's one of the worst casts if you want to do a cast focused build, but you can use it just fine

I'd put rifts under it

[subtle granite]

for rifts you'd really want hunting blades

for em to be at their best

[dense laurel]

i mean i guess rifts is kinda better if u using hidden shield, for massive aoe

[harsh leaf]

I tried to run a blade rift build, and even with everything still couldnt get Hunting Blades. It didnt end well

[subtle granite]

oof

[harsh leaf]

Meme beam you can still KINDA make work with just Glacial Glare and Arctic Blast

[midnight grail]

whos the god that drops the spear boon that hits x3 on dash attack? i love to match that with dash boons and i forgot who dropped it since it happened once a couple of runs ago

or did i just get lucky with that?

[dense laurel]

sounds like hammers

all wep based changes comes from hammers

[midnight grail]

oh it might've been, cant recall

damn

[harsh leaf]

It is indeed a hammer

[midnight grail]

:c rip

[harsh leaf]

You're all but guaranteed two hammers during runs

[subtle granite]

serrated point, hammer upgrade

[glad vortex]

All weapons unlock with keys. Just keep unlocking weapons, the two show up after you unlock their predecessor.

[brittle zenith]

What is FO1

[old escarp]

Forced Overtime level 1

[brittle zenith]

Thank you

[buoyant thunder]

How strong would people say the jolted effect is? It's hard for me to tell (even with cold fusion).

[harsh leaf]

It's okay

[old escarp]

Cold Fusion certainly improves it greatly, especially against bosses

[harsh leaf]

Yeah, it's a huge upgrade

[old escarp]

Jolted by itself is fine, it's more just a nice addition than something I would seek out, personally

[brittle zenith]

I’ve found that athenas boon is insanely useful, I normally go for it as my first boon, either dashes or basic attacks for deflection, but I don’t know if they’re are better boons as the game progresses

[buoyant thunder]

Divine Dash is a really strong dash.

[brittle zenith]

It’s just more utility that I like to have, and if enemies have projectiles it’s even more damage

[glad vortex]

I struggle without either it or shield

[leaden whale]

i had to force myself to stop relying on divine dash lol

adds some spice

[fallen canyon]

i love arty so much

her greater call is always so amazing

[subtle granite]

divine dash is always a good go to but later on it will become less useful on the attack for some weapons, athena is still a very strong god to get boons from

[fallen canyon]

i love shredding half the last bosses healthbar

[subtle granite]

same

[fallen canyon]

in one key press

[subtle granite]

ayeeee an artemis simp now

beautiful

[buoyant thunder]

The aphrodite+athena duo is amazing with aphrodite's cast!

[brittle zenith]

Artemis is normally my second goddess that I go for boons on, but I start with Athena to completely sweep the fury

[subtle granite]

artemis+athena duo with athena on attack is insane aswell

honestly artemis duos > aphro duos

[buoyant thunder]

Wait... am I thinking of the wrong duo?

[fallen canyon]

exclusive access is best duo

[buoyant thunder]

I'm thinking of the duo that gives cast "backstab" abilities

[subtle granite]

aphro artemis duo does it so crits do more damage on weak aflicted

[buoyant thunder]

Oh, I got ya

[fallen canyon]

arty ares cast is op

same with arty crystal

[buoyant thunder]

Lightning rod is also pretty disgusting

[subtle granite]

but also unnervingly insistent

[buoyant thunder]

What do you mean

[brittle zenith]

I go varatha, so getting the sweep attack cool down on a daedulus, getting attack deflection from Athena, damage on dash strikes on Athena, more dashes from Hermès, critical in varathas special from artemis(again) and Poseidon’s call, has been my dream build

[subtle granite]

if you get artemis and zeus but want to go for a different duo from either of them you most oftenly have to reroll lightning rod at least once

so if you're duo boon hunting and really dont want lightning rod, you're screwed

[brittle zenith]

Zeus has always felt a little weaker, the jolted effect just feels like it isn’t that significant

[fallen canyon]

lightning rod has never seemed good to me

[buoyant thunder]

It did work when I fought Hades

[harsh leaf]

Lightning Rod deals a crapton of damage

[subtle granite]

lightning rod is good for some free damage but you really dont want-want it

[harsh leaf]

You can essentially go afk

[brittle zenith]

Again though, I guess if you struggle with single targets jolted might be better

[fallen canyon]

i like to play pretty cast heavy typically

[buoyant thunder]

I went for a Yoyo build on Talos and I tried to get sea storm. Unfortunately, it wasn't meant to be. So Lightning rod did all the work, and boy did it!

[fallen canyon]

so i guess i just never have the cast crystals out

[brittle zenith]

I already said I use varatha, so crowds aren’t that big a deal, but if you’re using the rail for example then jolted is I’m sure more significant

[fallen canyon]

i use whatever dark thirst compels me to use

[glad vortex]

I hate that I can only send the fancy fish to the chef instead of a fish tank

[full depot]

What weapon pairs best with poseidon

Same question for Zeus too

[harsh leaf]

Poseidon's best boons dont care about your weapon

[full depot]

Which ones do you mean

The treasure stuff?

[harsh leaf]

Dash

Pos attack and special arent great, since knocking enemies back means you have to chase them to keep doing damage, which means you're doing less damage over time

I've heard it's okay to yoyo goons with Talos

[full depot]

What about Zeus

[old escarp]

Rail or Fists, generally

[full depot]

Alright i haven't been able to finish with fists yet, maybe Zeus will help

[midnight grail]

am currently on my 4th (i think) attempt of ||theseus and the minotaur||. i can always kill the ||minotaur|| but end up dying of low hp to ||theseus||, any tips?

[buoyant thunder]

What are some tips on Aspect of Nemesis? I feel like I am struggling with it

[buoyant thunder]

Kill the minotaur first. After that... practice

[stray fiber]

Have you gotten any ||Cthonic companions yet? Also do you run either death defiance or stubborn defiance, if so do you die in the encounter? when do you die?||

[midnight grail]

||i have a death defiance currently, im about 47 hp and i killed the minotaur. i just dont know if i should do spear special and draw it out or bum rush him and hope to damage him a lot while using my defiance in the meantime||

currently paused so i have time to think n read what i can do

[stray fiber]

||1. I feel like death defiance life + 47 hp should be reasonable enough to kill Theseus. Have to tried to see why you die btw? Is it because you get hit by the god's effects that he summons?
2. I feel like 47 might be too low, do try and dodge Theseus spears while you fight Asterius, could you maybe try to focus on that?||

Ok ok so you are paused then the second thing is out of question. What about #1 how have you died in the past?

[midnight grail]

||i do get hit by the spears but its mostly the fact that my deflects dont seem to trigger when fighting the minotaur, they only do if i start attacking him and phase behind him before he begins attacking. if not then i will get damaged by the spins||

thats the strat ive found has worked to register them

[stray fiber]

The deflects are divine dash?

[midnight grail]

yea

the one that deflects the hits

not the dash*

cause theres one for dash deflection and one for deflection from the spear itself when attacking

i have the second one

[stray fiber]

||If that is the case you should have enough, but yea going back to the current state, all you need to is to survive 47HP + death defiance refill and kill him right, have you not been able to do this in the past? All you need to do is try and dodge the olympic gods effects and keep hitting him.||

[midnight grail]

||should i just do a tap and go then? dodge the aoe strikes, do a couple of light attacks and back off and repeat?||

[stray fiber]

Sry if that was not very helpful, idk how else to say it. Generally if you focus on why you are losing to a specific boss you should be able to rectify it.

[stray fiber]

Yea that is what I do, and I have somewhat poor mechanics, it still works for me. ||Now that I have Battie, I just do a Battie on him to finish quickly and move on||

[midnight grail]

ight ill give it a shot, very helpful dont knock urself down lol

tysm

hopefully this is the run

I DID IT

[stray fiber]

||Gl and yea just go hit him when you can and mostly try to dodge, that's really what ahs been working for me before I started using the companion||

[midnight grail]

HELL YEA

[stray fiber]

lol what did you say

congrats!

[midnight grail]

f word lol

i keep forgetting

HOLY dude artemis call saved me so hard

[midnight grail]

||to upgrade the spear, do i have to do the eternal spear from the fated list? if so, how? is it just get all the hammer upgrades for it or is there some other requirement im missing? i just fought the boss and died miserably so i wanna bulk up before rerunning him properly||

[buoyant thunder]

You need all the weapons first. Also, nothing of this convo is worthy of a spoiler tag.

[midnight grail]

ah sorry, wasnt aware, ty

[buoyant thunder]

The final boss and anything that leads from that is considered a spoiler

[leaden whale]

for nemesis, what I do is dash attack dash attack special repeat

u want heart rend

[zealous lichen]

Hi guys, I’ve spent titan blood (10+ at least) across multiple weapons but archilles won’t tell me about aspect of guan yu, what do I do?

[stoic spear]

i think there is more on the #h1-story-discussion pin

||Aspect of Guan Yu. Acquire the Fated List, unlock at least 5 other aspects, and fight Hades at least once (outcome is irrelevant). Achilles should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.||

[magic urchin]

Florida squirrel is always active on this server😉

[buoyant thunder]

So... I'm absolute trash with sword (in general). If anyone is willing, I can certainly use some tips

[leaden whale]

dash attack

[stoic spear]

i hope to be

[magic urchin]

What are the boons which is useful with shield?

[torn plaza]

which aspect are you using @magic urchin?

[magic urchin]

The first one ig

Dont know the names very well

[torn plaza]

the first aspects of all the weapons are just called the Zagrius aspects 🙂

unless you mean the first one that you use titan blood to unlock?

[magic urchin]

Yes the one i unlocked first with titan blood

[torn plaza]

oh gotcha

i dont use that one so im not sure

what is it's special aspect

[magic urchin]

Im not familiar

Then what will boons is good with normal shield without any aspects

[torn plaza]

i like Aphrodite special to inflict weak

zeus attack

posideon dash

or athena dash

but im not sure if that is top tier or not

personally, the shield aspect that I prefer is the Zeus aspect

with Zeus special

literally thats all you need to become OP is the zeus special on the Zeus aspect lol

[leaden whale]

yep

[torn plaza]

its also a playstyle id recommend to beginners bc it really allows you to focus on (dodging which is the most important aspect of the game to learn) without sacrificing that much to your DPS, since your special is your main source of damage with this build.

[jade narwhal]

As a beginner, should i spread my titan bloods on a different weapon or focus on just one or two?

[muted latch]

focus on whatever you feel like

dont need to spread

[torn plaza]

id try to unlock them all before upgrading

like unlock all the aspects

[muted latch]

it's not necessary to unlock all aspects

[torn plaza]

but from there upgrade what you like

its not necessary at all

[muted latch]

hidden aspects have no requirement on that

[torn plaza]

but generally each aspect will have a build that is fun to try

[magic urchin]

Thanks m8

[muted latch]

it's wasteful to spread early blood investments because they are much better off being invested into aspects that can get you consistent clears

[torn plaza]

ehh

[muted latch]

certain aspects are not that good at lv 1 or 2

[torn plaza]

very few are like that

[muted latch]

most notably Chiron and Chaos

[gray haven]

You'll get more Titan Blood faster if you max the aspect you enjoy the most or are best with first and use that aspect to get clears fast.

[torn plaza]

most are absolutely fine at the base level without putting any extra into it

that is true

but it can also get old just spamming the same aspect each run

like in my opinion this isnt a game that you want to farm the currencies on lol

i pretty much always take whatever weapon is chosen to give me +20% darkness and treasure

and run with that

keeps the game fresh that way

[gray haven]

And you'll have success faster if you focus on learning the ins and outs of one aspect.

[torn plaza]

depends on what you define success by

[gray haven]

Success as in clears.

[torn plaza]

if youre trying to speed run or beat it on really high difficulties it is important to learn an aspect very well

but to get clears you really just need to learn when to dodge

[gray haven]

||Heat|| is a spoiler here.

[torn plaza]

which isnt weapon dependent

let alone aspect dependent

edited

[gray haven]

Nah, you'll always get your early clears faster by making things easier to learn. Learning one aspect + fundamentals is easier than learning multiple aspects + fundamentals.

[torn plaza]

i mean it really just depends on what you want out of the game

if you want to enjoy it id recommend not spaming one way to play

[muted latch]

and imo using one playstyle to get used to all the patterns and enemy spawns is better than having to juggle between several different playstyles

[torn plaza]

bc then you might have trouble playing another way

the thing about rogue-lites is that the playstyle is always the same lol

its dodge first, damage when you are safe to do so

some weapons you want to be far away

some close up

but it really will always boil down to dodge till enemies are not in a position to hit you, then hit the enemies

the only weapon that has a playstlye that is significantly different from the others is really the shield in my opinion

[gray haven]

I can use one aspect over and over and enjoy the game. No one has to do that if they enjoy other approaches more, but if getting early clears is the goal, that's the most efficient method.

[torn plaza]

im not saying its impossible

im just saying playing with only one aspect is the fastest way to burn out in a game like this lol

[gray haven]

I dunno. I played only Malphon, once they added it, for like 150 runs, got a WR, then started looking at other weapons and only played aspects at max level.

[torn plaza]

WR?

[gray haven]

I enjoy optimization.

World Record.

[torn plaza]

lol

thats sick

for speed?

[gray haven]

Nope. ||41 Heat||, was WR at the time for Malphon.

[torn plaza]

oh nic e

thats cool

yeah i mean if youre grinding for something like a WR then thats differnt lol

the way I've always approached rogue-lites is to vary my builds as much as possible each run so that they dont get stale

its like playing Risk of Rain 2 with the command mod on

gets boring after like 2 runs lol

[gray haven]

I have a fighting game player mentality, so it's very natural to main a particular aspect or weapon and just learn all the builds and playstyle nuances and everything.

[torn plaza]

but its all personal prefernce at the end of the day

yee

[gray haven]

I legit just did Divine Strike on Zag Aspect of Malphon for like all of those runs and optimized builds and playstyle lol.

They called it "Mewmew Special" at the time.

[torn plaza]

lol

divine strike?

is that athena's boon?

[gray haven]

Divine Strike + Hunter Dash was the core of the build.

Yes.

[torn plaza]

interesting

i hate malphion generally so ill have to give that a try

i was trying to do an ares + athena build today

but i didnt get the ares

still dont have his keepsake lmao

[gray haven]

Hunter Dash worked as a requirement for Deadly Reversal back then. It doesn't work anymore, though, so you'd need Deadly Flourish or True Shot instead to unlock Deadly Reversal.

[cursive storm]

hello, Is charons gold is hard to find ?

[torn plaza]

nah

youll get a lot of it each run

but be sure to spend it

[cursive storm]

what

[torn plaza]

bc you lose it when you die

[cursive storm]

i mean the discount

the bag

charons gold bag

[torn plaza]

idk how to do spoilers lol

like how to tag it

hahahaha

or if that is a spoiler

[cursive storm]

ok other question

why titan blood is so rare

[gray haven]

Owl Pendant is the most reliable start for Malphon because you can get either Divine Strike or Divine Dash—both of which are really strong.

[cursive storm]

i always get darkness

[glad vortex]

It's a lot less rare after you beat the game once

[torn plaza]

makes sense

i feel like the dash would be super important with the fists

[gray haven]

It makes things a whole lot easier.

[cursive storm]

i lose to the last boss twice

still not beat the game

[torn plaza]

oh yeah dont worry about the bag then

[glad vortex]

shield is good into him

[torn plaza]

just focus on beating the final boss then worry about Charon 🙂

[cursive storm]

Btw the life steal hammer boon is powerful

i regret it when i purchase the anvil

[glad vortex]

Nearly every one of the last bosses attacks is blockable with shield.

[gray haven]

Just gonna need a bit more practice (or some good luck), and you'll beat the final boss. Keep at it!

[glad vortex]

Including arenawide attacks and laser

excluding the pots

[cursive storm]

ok last question how to get companions?

[ancient junco]

you are worrying too early about them it's about realtionship with characters

[torn plaza]

certian people who you can give nectar to will eventually give you a companion

but it will take you quite a while to get there

[cursive storm]

ok thanks

[torn plaza]

no prob 🙂 thats why we're in this thread!

you how do i spoiler tag something

[gray haven]

Most things are answered by just keep playing and progressing naturally.

||spoiler||

[torn plaza]

|| what is an erebus gate ||

[ancient junco]

a trial from hades accesable only by certain amounts of ||heat|| in each region

[torn plaza]

gotcha

[gray haven]

||Heat|| is spoilers.

[ancient junco]

i dont think so but ok

[torn plaza]

yeah i agree with that one lol

[gray haven]

It is. Not my rules lol.

[torn plaza]

hahaha i get that it is

but i think its kinda silly

[gray haven]

m just letting you know.

[ancient junco]

yeah I know don't worry i appreciate it

Ive seen a lot of people say it's not that's why because someone that dosent know what heat is cant understand

[torn plaza]

true

its not like a story spoiler also lol

[muted latch]

a lot of players asking in this channel dont even have a single clear so that would be something they havent seen

game is only two months old at this moment too

(that's just since 1.0 release I know)

[lean comet]

It’s super fun

[torn plaza]

true but you'd just be like oh i dont know what that is lol

[lean comet]

I haven’t beaten the first boss yet :(

[torn plaza]

its not a harmful spoiler like knowing who kills Dumbledore

[lean comet]

Up until the game awards I’ve never even heard of Hades

[ancient junco]

yeah that's the point just play the game and you'll find out about things

[fervent socket]

wait what/

isn't this game like 3 years old?

[muted latch]

(since 1.0 release)

early access release was exactly two years

[fervent socket]

I only learned about the game this year

and got it on switch

[muted latch]

never too late

[cursive storm]

i did it

i beat the boss

thanks guys

[torn plaza]

congrats man!

[cursive storm]

i beat the boss with trash build

display impeding doom

[torn plaza]

niiiice

[stray fiber]

impeding doom sounds bad compared to impending doom, maybe it impedes whoever it's applied to

jk I realize it was a typo, sry.

[torn plaza]

lol

[cursive storm]

im missing an N

i c

34 attempt

[torn plaza]

not too shabby 😉

[magic urchin]

Impending doom also refers to Moon lord in terraria right?

[subtle steeple]

Good morning, if the game is completed... is it "done" ? So all you will see in variation?

As I am considering to just do a fun godmode run to complete it (as new player) but I dont wanna have the entire game experience lost by doing so.

[muted latch]

the game is considered done

they currently dont have plans to add new content

[stray fiber]

Is ||pact of punishment, heat|| possible in god mode?

[pastel cipher]

yes

[muted latch]

god mode prevents nothing

and nothing works differently in god mode

outside of that one single hardest mode in the entire game

[stray fiber]

oh nice, good to know.

[muted latch]

and you get a god mode sticker on your run record if you enabled it any time during the run

other than that, nothing

[quiet flower]

Do you need luck to get good builds

[harsh leaf]

Not really

[sly vigil]

depends on which point you are in the game.

[harsh leaf]

This game has an incredible amount of player agency for a roguelite

[sly vigil]

super early on, yeah, you need some luck.
say 10 - 15 runs in, not really.

[quiet flower]

Like my 6th run in

And how does it eliminate luck??

I can consistantly get past ||tartarus||

[toxic swift]

You can force a build by rerolling boons later on

or rooms

[sly vigil]

Via the mirror and keepsake.

[quiet flower]

Ahhh

[sly vigil]

The last couple of Mirror talents involve RNG manipulations. But mostly you can force builds via keepsakes, specifically the God ones (Eternal Rose, Adamant Arrows, Thunder Signet, etc.)

[quiet flower]

K

[harsh leaf]

Bearing in mind that it is entirely possible to beat the game on the first run from a fresh file, the number one factor is player skill. Luck certainly helps, but the more you get good, the better results you'll start to see. Dont be discouraged at 6 runs, most people start winning after run 20, and some after run 50 even.

[quiet flower]

Im not discourage

I love this game so far

[sly vigil]

yeah, a good build also means game knowledge to know which is good which is not

so just keep playing. likely you will chance into one.

before you can force around it.

[floral nacelle]

It’s possible but very difficult to beat it on the first run on a fresh file

Since people generally need at least the DD mirror perk before winning

[harsh leaf]

I didnt say it's possible to beat a fresh file on your first try, just that it's possible to beat it at all, with no mirror, no keepsake, no nothing

[amber laurel]

So, I got into 4th region

And I'm having trouble with poison

Both runs that got me up there were using cursed slash on nemesis sword

[harsh leaf]

Yup

The best defense against poison is to kill everything quickly. Poison heals when you finish a room!

[sly vigil]

Did you know how to cure the poison by going to the pool?

[amber laurel]

Should I ditch it and try to survive the lower levels without it?

[amber laurel]

No?

Wdym?

[harsh leaf]

Oof

[toxic swift]

lmao

[sly vigil]

Also if you really have that much problem with poison, consider equipping Spearpoint (keepsake from Patroclus).

[harsh leaf]

Did you see the green pools of stuff that you can interact with?

[toxic swift]

no wonder you're having so much trouble

[harsh leaf]

You can click on those when poisoned to heal

[sly vigil]

So in every room, there will be a pool in the corner with glowy yellow substance

[daring delta]

There's a yellow pool with a Mandrake root just chilling

[sly vigil]

Interact to drink it and be cured.

[daring delta]

Drinking the bathwater cures poisob

[amber laurel]

I have never seen that lol

[daring delta]

Every room,att least one

[sly vigil]

well clear a room, then stay a bit to look around

they are there

[harsh leaf]

Maybe slow down a bit

Remember to breathe

[daring delta]

1. Where's the root?
2. Where are the grates that spew poison gunk?

[amber laurel]

Yea I get in a rush cuz poison basically tells me "finish this quick or you're dead"

[harsh leaf]

Again, posion is automatically cured when you finish a room. Take a second or two after that happens to LOOK at the room layout

You'll familiarize yourself with how things work this way