#h1-for-new-players | Supergiant Games | Page 200

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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oh

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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then its abug, since ive done it a dozen times

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I quit after I bought anvil

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Run ended for me

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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yeah same

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interesting

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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But I'm playing on switch

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:09 PM

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im on pc

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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how did you close it?

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just clicked the big x or smth

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:10 PM

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sometimes the close button son windowed sometimes i clicked quit

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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clicked on quit midfight?

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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yea y

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:11 PM

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huh, i'll see that for myself

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it's always been unclickable for me until i enter a new room

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:12 PM

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thats post fight

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do u understand what mid is

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:12 PM

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yeah

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??

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you said you clicked on quit midfight

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i cant click on quit midfight

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like the option is greyed out until i actually finish and enter the next room

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:13 PM

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huh weird, then probably i just clicked the close button

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:16 PM

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HinaThink

sterile solar Nov 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Theres a way to recover the run when that happens in #h1-tech-fixes

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 7:17 PM

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sterile solar Theres a way to recover the run when that happens in <#675070621075374090>

i'll check it out, thanks! for the next time i do something stupid again lol

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 7:19 PM

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Damn that was my best round against Doomstone yet, barely took any damage. The spear weapon (i forgot the name of it) is super helpful for me

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YES I DID IT

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I BEAT THE FURY FOR THE FIRST TIME

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YAYAYA

dense laurel Nov 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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you beat the furry?

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 7:27 PM

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I forgot her name

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Ik it starts with M

floral nacelle Nov 28, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Megaera

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Yeah

stray jacinth Nov 28, 2020, 7:54 PM

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brave solstice I BEAT THE FURY FOR THE FIRST TIME

Ye the spear is so good, I also like the shield tho.

spice spear Nov 28, 2020, 8:33 PM

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bow is better

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well I mean

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all weapons are great

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even gun

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:34 PM

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Eris aspect is actually the best meta wise rn

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I can't seem to get a good build on the rail no matter the aspect

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it's the least fun weapon to use from my experience

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Playing in gamepad?

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:38 PM

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yeah

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Reload to L

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:39 PM

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@thorny bobcat meta build is pretty much based on zeus attack with (eris) rail

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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I just can't get reliable damage on it if that makes sense

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it feels like I'm tickling the enemies rather than hitting them

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Do you have reload on L?

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Eris: Lightning Strike, Support fire, zeus legendary, sea storm + tidal dash, aphro flourish, zeus aid and smoldering air, rocket bomb, cluster bomb, (maybe demeter duo if jolt)

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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which rail are you using? when I'm building it it feels like I'm melting the enemies

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Have fun winning

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I don't know what you mean by reload on L lol

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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and eris special is a good damage buff

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Hestia is awesome
Eris is prolly one of the few op things in hades

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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usually I either go Eris or hidden aspect

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Set your reload button to l instead of R3

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Well hidden aspect is p trash on switch

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:41 PM

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I'm on PC

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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is the aspect of ||Guan Yu|| any good

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Try the eris build I posted

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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gaunt kernel is the aspect of ||Guan Yu|| any good

Tag the name pls

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Secret aspects are spoiler

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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sorry

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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I'll try it next time I'm in the mood for rail lol

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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is it any good

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:42 PM

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It's good but the health penalty is a lot for some people

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You should definitely max it before playing it

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I'm not fond of the spear, but ||gy|| can be nice

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I suggest building on the special and only using the spin as a side tool

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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Every aspect is except zag

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Or rather don't use the spin lol

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:43 PM

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also any good builds that aren't spear? i have all the god keepsakes except hermes, zeus, and ||demeter||

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Any good builds that aren't spear? Huh?

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I need specifics m8

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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ive been using spear for far too long

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i just wanna run a build that isn't spear

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Give me an aspect I'll pop you a build

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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hot yoke Eris: Lightning Strike, Support fire, zeus legendary, sea storm + tidal dash, ap...

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uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:44 PM

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all weapons and aspects have their builds

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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hera bow?

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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cast build mainly

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Sure sec

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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and will i need zeus keepsake for it

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Hera Bow Zeus Dyonisus Duo, dio cast bouncing arrow, stygian (demeter)| aphro cast, athena duo|Poseidon cast, artemis duo|True shot, exit wounds, mirage shot, cast empowers(legendary, hermes{greater recall} chaos), (heart rend, zeus)

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| means different build

thorny bobcat Nov 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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you should be switching keepsakes around in between floors

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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i do so

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i just dont have zeus's

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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Also you could play athena cast aphro duo
On switch the hitbox if crush shot on hera is still hella bugged

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:46 PM

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im on pc

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thats the 4th time in 10 minutes ive opened blender when i didnt want to

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what do you suggest? i'm still relatively new

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i've reached ||hades|| a few times but never beaten him

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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What do you mean with what do I suggest
Regarding to what?

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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what build should i run

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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Practice and upgrading your mirror mostly
Maybe maxing eris since it's easiest to clear with

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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i mean what build should i run

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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not much to say besides keep playing and try stuff, if you want to ask for a specific build just ask here

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:48 PM

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message wouldnt send

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whats eris?

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Again there's no general build in hades
It always depends on the aspects

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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i meant out of the builds you suggested for the bow

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Rail aspect
The strongest aspect as of current knowledge

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:49 PM

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depends on your play style, I'd honestly go for whatever seems fun but eris rail is prolly the most reliably broken atm

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Oh ok
Dio prolly

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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dio/zeus?

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Or you do a merciful end run with fists

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That's p auto win

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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well, you said you don't have their keepsake, so either try another build you can force with keepsakes or hope to get lucky

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:50 PM

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any specific aspect

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also im tryna get zeus atm

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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you will get all keepsakes soon enough, dw

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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On fists the aspect doesn't matter for me
You basically run ares attack, athena special, merciful end duo, athena dash and impending doom

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:51 PM

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whats impending doom?

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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When you got the duo(for which you need attack and special) and athena dash then basically hold down attack and spanm dash

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It's a boon from ares that makes doom take longer to apply but deal more damage

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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basically, ares and athena duo boon makes your doom effects proc instantly instead of after a delay

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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ah

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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It makes triggering with me more consistent and is basically free damage since the extra appliance time doesn't matter with that

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:52 PM

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and since fists hit fast

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you're spamming strong doom dmg

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also doesn't have to be athena special, it can be athena dash

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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alright

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:53 PM

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No it has to be athena special

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Dash isn't a pre req

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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oh right

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:54 PM

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But you still want dash for the triggers
You should equip ares keepsake first, then athena if you haven't gotten her

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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yeah, so ares attack, athena special for requirement, athena dash for easier proc and a bunch of doom buffs

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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Boon priority is ares attack>athena special> athena dash> impending doom
The getting the duo is top priority obvs but that's why you're getting the first two boons

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 8:55 PM

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sweet i got ||demeter|| keepsake

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after this run imma try that

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i really like ares, doom is fun

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question

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if i give up and use a different keepsake will i get the same rarity boons from a different god

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 8:59 PM

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never checked that

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 8:59 PM

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The seed will stay the same
But that's not how rarity is affected

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:02 PM

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should i use talos or zag

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Zag or dem ig
For me
Doesn't really make a difference

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Secret fists also works well with that

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:04 PM

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collosus knuckle, explosive upper, rolling knuckle what should i take

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:04 PM

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What was rolling again

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:04 PM

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dash strike +60%, added to attack sqeuence

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exact wording

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:05 PM

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That's nice yeah

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Also breaching cross is insane

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Try to pick it up as your second hammer
It deletes armor

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:06 PM

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no doom for my first ares

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well theres curse of pain but thats not what i want

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:09 PM

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How far is your mirror?

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 9:09 PM

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if you only have zag and talos fists, use talos for the pull and additional damage

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:09 PM

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The last 4 upgrades on green really boost your run consistency by a lot

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:09 PM

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uncut parrot if you only have zag and talos fists, use talos for the pull and additional dama...

On ME that's nonsensical

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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im very close to the last mirror upgrade

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only 4 keys i think

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Using special gets you far less dps

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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away

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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I can recommend having the last 4 mirror options green

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Except privileged status if you're doing a hangover build f.e.

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 9:10 PM

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was thinking mostly of the pull tbh

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cause might as well

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

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Yeah but using that still interrupts your damage rotation

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Just spamming attack and dash gets you way more than interrupting it for special and dash every couple seconds for the buff

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 9:11 PM

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I'm not saying to use it mid-combo or something, just to use it to get the enmeies to you

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Or dash to the enemies which is way quicker

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Also passive dodge is always active

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I mean I can see talos being better then demeter for ME

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Definetly

uncut parrot Nov 28, 2020, 9:13 PM

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he was asking for between zag and talos, that's it

sterile solar Nov 28, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Bendo where is your pic from

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:16 PM

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uncut parrot he was asking for between zag and talos, that's it

Well then def zag

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:18 PM

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if i purge a boon can i get it again or no

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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You can get it again

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You should afaik

gaunt kernel Nov 28, 2020, 9:19 PM

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damn i shoulda purged

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i only have basic Doom

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only 50 damage ;-;

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*rare doom

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thanks muse

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Rarity isn't everything
The duo is the most important in this case

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Damn I got the Hydra to half health on my first try

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I think its just cause I arrived with low health and not to great of Boons

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 9:58 PM

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I have a little problem with ||poseidon|| sword. I build generally powerful on cast and special (like artemis cast) but I get fried past the 3rd boss (by the ||satyrs etc in Styx|| so I have almost no health left for last boss

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I feel like building on cast is fine when facing "normal" enemies but too slow in the area mentioned above

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Any ideas? Or better boon choices?

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 10:01 PM

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I can throw down a few builds
Are you taking exit wounds?

harsh leaf Nov 28, 2020, 10:13 PM

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You gotta take boons specifically to deal with large amounts of enemies, too. Splash Dash, any good % special boon, etc

lyric quiver Nov 28, 2020, 10:35 PM

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Do you get anything special for killing ||Charon||?

hearty ore Nov 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Yes

pulsar frigate Nov 28, 2020, 10:37 PM

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yes, you get ||the bag of money that you have to borrow, and a card that grants -20% on prices until you die that run||

thick prism Nov 28, 2020, 10:44 PM

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so thats how you get that achievement

sterile solar Nov 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Yes

sterile solar Nov 28, 2020, 10:47 PM

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lyric quiver Do you get anything special for killing ||Charon||?

No because you cant kill him

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bouldy

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Bruh they just stuck a new fury on me like that and said “screw you”

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I got past but damn

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:12 PM

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XD

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wait till you upgrade it for ||lernie||

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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yeah its +9/7/5 minutes every area

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:13 PM

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crazy

pastel cipher Nov 28, 2020, 11:20 PM

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||Heat and the pact|| are both considered spoilers in this channel, please use spoiler tags ^_^ @leaden whale @ebon thicket

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:20 PM

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OH IM SORRY!

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my bad ;;

pastel cipher Nov 28, 2020, 11:22 PM

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no worries, for future reference the channel is intended for new hades players, so they don't necessarily know what those things are ^_^

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:23 PM

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fair, maybe my mindset is once credits roll tutorial is over probably isnt best for discord rules XD

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Ill keep the questions to discussion then lol

leaden whale Nov 28, 2020, 11:23 PM

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ah my bad

pastel cipher Nov 28, 2020, 11:23 PM

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#h1-builds-and-combat and #h1-story-discussion both work well too :3

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:24 PM

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will do

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:24 PM

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ebon thicket fair, maybe my mindset is once credits roll tutorial is over probably isnt best ...

The credits roll after ||10 clears|| so that's p far into the game for most

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 11:24 PM

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I defeated the ||Bone Hydra|| shadesmile

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:25 PM

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No worries
That's not spoilers

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:25 PM

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XD fair

brave solstice Nov 28, 2020, 11:25 PM

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Oh alright

ebon thicket Nov 28, 2020, 11:25 PM

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and grats man

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good feels

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Sorry for late reply got busy

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But yes I take exit wounds if offered

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@hot yoke any suggestions are welcome yes

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@harsh leaf thank you for the tip on splash dash, should have thought of it sooner

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I can bump a few build ideas

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Poseidon Build: Athena or aphrodite cast, parting shot duo, exit wounds artemis|Parting shot (Aphro, athena), exit wounds, electric shot|Flood shot, exit wounds, sea storm

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 11:52 PM

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Electric shot? So zeus cast

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Yes

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I'd recommend that the least tho prolly

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Of the ideas suggested here

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Not overall

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 11:53 PM

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What's parting shot? Duo?

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Yes

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Makes casts backstab

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And do additional backstab damage

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Ok how's athenas cast good?

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Does it stick?

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Yup

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 11:54 PM

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Oh, I thought it shot like a ball for deflect

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I'll try that if offered

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Best of luck

modern pike Nov 28, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Danke and thank you for the advice

hot yoke Nov 28, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Kein Problem

void tendon Nov 29, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Ayyyy got my first clear in hades on 14th run

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:24 AM

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👌

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Now go do it again

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 12:35 AM

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That's p fast dawg

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 12:36 AM

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Yeah seriously, nice work!

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:38 AM

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void tendon Ayyyy got my first clear in hades on 14th run

Double as fast as me respec

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 12:38 AM

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14th run I wasn't consistently making it to Elysium 😆 . I still haven't gotten a clear but I now feel like I make it to Styx about half the time and my run count is somewhere in the 30s now

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(are area names spoilers? fixed just in case)

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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No they aren't

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Final boss name is tho

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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cool, makes sense

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:40 AM

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hot yoke Double as fast as me respec

You suck

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:41 AM

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You don't even olay TD1

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You suck more

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Olay

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Fiesta

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:42 AM

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mexican music

digital grove Nov 29, 2020, 12:44 AM

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(post-first clear spoilers) ||I just had my first TD1 win (10 heat) and I had over 17 minutes left on the timer||

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:44 AM

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Tag pls

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||heat|| is a spoiler in this channel

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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How about ||cold||

digital grove Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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is that better

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sorry about that

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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How about || bouldy ...||

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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👌 bouldy

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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No worries

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:45 AM

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digital grove is that better

Just tagging ||heat|| should be enough
Nothing against your more respectful option obvs

digital grove Nov 29, 2020, 12:46 AM

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hot yoke Just tagging ||heat|| should be enough Nothing against your more respectful opti...

Thank you for clarifying I erred on the side of caution bc I was unsure

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also I forgot I was in new players channel for a moment

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Lol we all make mistakes

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Except me ofc

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:46 AM

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Youre a mistake

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I thought you could handle me hating you better

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:47 AM

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I cant

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Too much

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Fair

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I make no mistakes
Cause I am a mistake

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 12:48 AM

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bouldy

void tendon Nov 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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@hot yoke thaaaanks. Now i just need to figure out a melee weapon to run

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:50 AM

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All with time
First clears the hardest :D

void tendon Nov 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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I have hardly any keepsakes. Maybe i should focus on just farming that first

digital grove Nov 29, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Yeah focus on getting those first

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those are important

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first nectar to a person gives a keepsake

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so just give everyone their first nectar first

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and maybe hold off on giving another nectar until you have most keepsakes

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the olympians and story room keepsakes for sure

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and ones in the house

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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^

digital grove Nov 29, 2020, 12:52 AM

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I use Olympian keepakes a lot to help my runs

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if I want a specific boon

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or just a specific god for a run

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(God pool mechanics spoilers) ||it's the only way to get more than 4 gods (besides Hermes) in a run too||

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using god keepsakes I mean

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the spoiler above is just mechanical regarding gods you see in runs

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:54 AM

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digital grove (God pool mechanics spoilers) ||it's the only way to get more than 4 gods (besid...

There's been new discoveries regarding that btw
Idk if I told you

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Also chaos doesn't count either

digital grove Nov 29, 2020, 12:55 AM

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You haven't

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can you DM me the new discoveries?

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I'm very interested

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and yeah chaos doesn't count either

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I didn't think about them bc the curse is temporary

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and chaos works way differently than other gods mechanically in my mind

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 12:56 AM

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@hot yoke I DID IT THANKS TO YOUR ADVICE

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 12:57 AM

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Awesome!!!

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Feels good squirtyay

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 12:58 AM

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oh can you dm me the new discovery as well

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or just... drop it and spoiler it here

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 1:00 AM

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||4 gods will appear naturally and you can force more via keepsake. But if you have more than 4 gods, one won't get kicked out. ||

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And before the assumption was that if you get ||more than for gods, one of the previous ones will randomly get kicked out||

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 1:20 AM

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ill kick you out

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Try

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 1:21 AM

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bouldy

foggy radish Nov 29, 2020, 2:17 AM

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yo an hour in and i finally took out the first boss

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epic

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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👌

foggy radish Nov 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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seriously tho, loving this game
will suffer through this again

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:18 AM

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Welcome to the underworld

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And thanks for dying!

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I just discovered the ||tiny vermin|| (spoilers: final area boss) and I'm in a mix of dying laughing and being a bit frustrated it just stripped both my death defies and killed this beautiful run

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:26 AM

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It is a mini boss for a reason

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Did you try not dying tho?

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 2:27 AM

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it's mini but sheesh is it rough 🤣

autumn depot Nov 29, 2020, 2:40 AM

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In ||styx|| I always go for the non-mini bosses first

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:40 AM

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Mini bosses tend to be easier than normal rooms

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In the long run

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At the beginning they might seem overwhelming

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 2:42 AM

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yeah with some experience, minibosses are more manageable and faster than normal tunnels

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with double awards, too

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I was only 200 max health so I went for the chamber with the centaur heart cause I felt like I needed the extra health, boss or no

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Always yes

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I'd done the minibosses before. I sure didn't expect that 🤣

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(I guess not enough to roll it but so it goes)

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:48 AM

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If you are confident you can clear the room, theres no reason not to do all of them

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I'm way far from confident I can clear the room though 🙂

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The ||satyr sack|| can be in any room including miniboss ones, right?

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Yes

autumn depot Nov 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Can it be in the first room?

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 2:49 AM

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No

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If its in a boss room, you just got yourself a double reward for free

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 2:55 AM

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acorn should be available for ||tiny vermin||

sterile solar Nov 29, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Lmao

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It specifically says the final boss im sure

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I take more damage on that fight than the final boss

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Just do this regarding that miniboss. Some weapon spoiler ||https://clips.twitch.tv/DirtyWanderingZucchiniTheRinger||

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:51 AM

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Got my first victory today

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I didn't realize what I was in for. And I love it

thick prism Nov 29, 2020, 3:52 AM

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🎊

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:53 AM

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🎉

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:55 AM

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Can I share my run here or should I put it in victory boasting?

thick prism Nov 29, 2020, 3:56 AM

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victory boasting would be preferable

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 3:57 AM

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Does Vanquisher's Keep replace darkness or add gems on top of darkness for killing bosses?

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:58 AM

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adds gems on top

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I have a very large amount of gems because of it lol

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 3:59 AM

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nice, thanks 🙂

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:59 AM

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np

empty heath Nov 29, 2020, 5:31 AM

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How do I get || a diamond? I've never encountered one||

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:33 AM

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it's a reward from ||the boss of the area after tartarus||

empty heath Nov 29, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Thanks!

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:41 AM

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any good OP builds for Malphon Fists?

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 5:43 AM

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take zeus attack, jolted boon, get the increased bounce in hopes you get the legendary

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:45 AM

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hah... everyone suggests that... is it really that good?

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also I need to map my dash button to something else just for the malphon xD

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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its probably the second best fist build but is the most consistent

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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whats the first best then? xD

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 5:46 AM

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merciful end

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you need ares attack, athena special and dash, and the duo boon

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:51 AM

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Zeus attack is crazy on fists and gun

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which duo boon? Ares and Athena?

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yeah

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I see... I think I have seen that with the Sword in the Fresh Save Speed Run

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its pretty OP

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also, is Boiling Blood better or Abyssal Blood? against Bosses?

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Small tip for the duo-boons, an upgrade you get from the contractor will allow you to see all the boons a god can give you, as well as the required combo(s) to make a certain duo boon

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 6:03 AM

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leaden whale Small tip for the duo-boons, an upgrade you get from the contractor will allow y...

I still need to unlock it i think

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 6:04 AM

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leaden whale I still need to unlock it i think

Yeah, first you need to upgrade the contractors desk basically and more stuff to unlock becomes available, one of those things is that upgrade

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Yeah... i think I'll go with the Zeus Lightning Fists... since its the most consistent and you dont need that many Boons to set it up

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This guy is crazy with the Zeus Fists lol xD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjejZgnOL0Q

YouTube

FrozenStar

Hades Ora Ora Build with Twins Fists of Malphon — Temple of Styx (N...

Aspect of Zagreus + Lightning Strike + Rolling Knuckle + Swift Strike

▶ Play video

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:04 AM

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1.0 came with some changes to Zag Fists. Attack speed no longer applies.

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The vid is a bit outdated.

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(For those who want to say "but attack speed was kind of a placebo," yeah it was. But the dude has Rolling Knuckle so the effect matters.)

pastel cipher Nov 29, 2020, 7:08 AM

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the attack speed bonus only applied to the first strike of the 5 hit combo, so it did matter for dash strike builds also

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Yeah that's why it put the parentheses sentence in anticipation for that. Rolling Knuckle also amplify this. But you know how people like to add the little technical details.

pastel cipher Nov 29, 2020, 7:10 AM

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mmhm, for sure, I kinda hoped there'd be something to replace the attack speed bonus

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but alas that's not the case bittieCry

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Like longer range? And add Long Knuckle on top?

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Just maybe squirtdevious

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 7:10 AM

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I guess it got buffed by us finding out that Dodge is additive.

pastel cipher Nov 29, 2020, 7:11 AM

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mmhm, that's true

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:11 AM

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I'm still so confused. I saw Haelian vid where he went 161% dodge if it was additive and still got tagged.

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Then there is bablo's (I think) vid where he wasn't

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Who to trust lol

pastel cipher Nov 29, 2020, 7:12 AM

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something might have changed between Haelian and bablo's video

pulsar frigate Nov 29, 2020, 7:12 AM

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were they both during the same patch?

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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No.

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Haelian's is a bit older

dense laurel Nov 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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conclusion: shrodiger's dodge

pulsar frigate Nov 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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sgg shadowbuffed dodge? thanthink

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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But did they really shadow change it from multiplicative/capped to additive?

pastel cipher Nov 29, 2020, 7:13 AM

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is it additive or inverse multiplicative, look at it and it changes squirtdevious

dense laurel Nov 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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aw man if only there is a stat page

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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It's no fair. They changed the outcome by playing the game.

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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There were certain attacks that were impossible to dodge until they fixed it.

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:14 AM

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Ok I guess this makes sense.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 7:22 AM

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I think the devs should have added Medusa as a Boss

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since she's the most well know and favorite of all

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:23 AM

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We already have Maid Dusa (who in my head canon is a descendant/clone of the OG Medusa).

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And you have the Mega ||Gorgon|| in the second biome as miniboss.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 7:25 AM

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yeah I know... but still it'd have been cooler if we had a secret ||boss fight with the OG Medusa like the Charon one we have||

daring delta Nov 29, 2020, 7:26 AM

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Don't know what the score is on Perseus in Hades, but he did cut off Medusas head

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Mythologically

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Maybe that's why Dusa doesn't have a body

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 7:31 AM

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yeah... but they could add a DLC boss fight where Chaos summons the OG Medusa

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 7:33 AM

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Yeah. A lot of people want a lot of things in the game. Apollo was a fan favorite and people have been asking where he is. Same with Hera.

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But SGG vision is different. And obviously you can't add everyone in Greek pantheon to the game.

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Best you can do is hope ig.

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The game is big enough that a DLC is possible. Though I wouldn't hold my breath.

pastel cipher Nov 29, 2020, 7:35 AM

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it's possible, however Supergiant wanted to tell a specific story and with how that story unfolds I don't know how they would add on a dlc from there

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anyways, this topic is best for either #h1-discussion or #h1-story-discussion

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 8:56 AM

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jesus, i need so many f those shadow orb

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why do u need so many

glossy marsh Nov 29, 2020, 9:24 AM

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I finally beat Meg!

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 9:24 AM

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grats

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 10:36 AM

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Beating Meg for the first time is always a good feeling

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I think shes ranked in the middle for the level of difficulty between Furies

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 10:37 AM

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god's pride or legacy ?

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 10:37 AM

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Wait there’s different versions? (Im super new to the game)

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 10:37 AM

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ya

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 10:38 AM

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Idk which one then

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But Alecto is the easiest of them for me

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 10:45 AM

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legacy opens up a lot of build, i recommend going for that

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Olympian favor or dark foresight ?

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 10:52 AM

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dark foresight once you have enough darkness

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 11:18 AM

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glossy marsh I finally beat Meg!

Good Luck with the 3rd Boss xD

warm whale Nov 29, 2020, 12:23 PM

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@leaden whale ||it's heavily implied Dusa is Medusa, and she's somewhat ashamed of her past life. After her death, her blood ran into the earth and created the gorgon heads that litter the underworld||

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 12:58 PM

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I see... I havent read the Codex yet... but its good to know that she exists... although, I'd like her to come back as a Boss in a DLC or something

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.

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Also, Boiling Blood vs Abyssal Blood, which is better? and does it work on Bosses as well?

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 12:59 PM

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boiling

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works on bosses

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they're not even comparable

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 1:00 PM

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I see... so Abyssal doesnt work on Bosses? or it just doesn't give you the same output as the other one?

open drum Nov 29, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Hello guys. Newbie here.
Just tried playing the cast bow with Aphro cast but the thing seems a little weird. sometimes the cast just go pass the enemy. is it a bug or something? or i just need to git gud

upbeat mason Nov 29, 2020, 1:02 PM

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leaden whale I see... so Abyssal doesnt work on Bosses? or it just doesn't give you the same ...

more damage = faster kill = less damage taken

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 1:02 PM

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I don't like Aphrodite Cast... its too close range

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 1:02 PM

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upbeat mason more damage = faster kill = less damage taken

True true

muted latch Nov 29, 2020, 1:40 PM

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trippy shot is by far the best cast for cast bow build

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I like poseidon cast for that as well

golden hare Nov 29, 2020, 2:14 PM

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what is the 3 covered items in the room with skelly?

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in the bottom left

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:15 PM

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that

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you gotta find out

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keep playing and youll get there soon

golden hare Nov 29, 2020, 2:15 PM

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is it unlockable just by going thro the story?

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wait nvm, im dumb

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ok ty

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 2:24 PM

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I''m having trouble with hades

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i have no problem killing the 1st 3 boss

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but hades is just very hard

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so many things to dodge

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and i just can't seem to do enough dmg

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:25 PM

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that

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 2:25 PM

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especially to those wave making tegg

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:25 PM

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you have to spoiler tag the name

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 2:26 PM

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i think its pretty obv that who is going to be at the end

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:26 PM

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brittle basalt and i just can't seem to do enough dmg

for this you need a more decent build, which you can learn easily throughout the game

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:26 PM

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brittle basalt i think its pretty obv that who is going to be at the end

but still, this channel is ruled as legit no spoilers

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 2:26 PM

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oh ok then

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:26 PM

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thanks

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and about the skulls

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if you can't dash through them

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make destroying them a top priority

brittle basalt Nov 29, 2020, 2:27 PM

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i mean dashing through those wave is no pronlem

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its when u have to dodge hades too

terse tree Nov 29, 2020, 2:28 PM

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the spin attacks are the main problems if you are having difficulties about dodging

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||hades|| lunges forward when he performs it, so dash the other way

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:29 PM

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what shoudl I get for my first aspect?

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I have 4 titan blood

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:31 PM

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so I defeated HADES with the Zagreus Shield and Ares Doom

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pretty OP

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Shield is probably the Best Weapon in the game right now lol xD

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:31 PM

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@buoyant quarry up to you since you will get better results if it's a weapon you like, but chaos shield and chiron bow are lackluster when you just unlock them without further investment

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although they can become really strong

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eris rail is probably the strongest known meta atm and can work even when just unlocked

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:32 PM

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so should I get aris?

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:33 PM

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yeah... I have seen Eris Rail lol xD

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:33 PM

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if you like the rail play style then why not

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that being said

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eris rail at lvl 1 is not that different from basic rail

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just a small damage boost

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:33 PM

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i got it to lvl 2

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:34 PM

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aight

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basically, try to get zeus attack on it

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and some lightning buffs

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:34 PM

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i got ares as my first

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:34 PM

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on top of that, pose/aphro special, pose/Athena dash and artemis seeking arrows are great too

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:36 PM

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actually i clicked give up

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and it reset where i didnt buy the aspect yet

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:36 PM

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as for hammer, cluster (the 5 special) is great, as well as rocket special and targeting system

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:36 PM

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i dont really want to use rail right now

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whats the easiest weapon?

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:37 PM

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no real easiest weapon, as it depends on your affinity with it

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like I suck at spear but some ppl like it a lot

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also it's more a matter of aspect than weapon

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since some aspects will go for a different style entirely (like a cast build)

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:38 PM

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so what would you recommend

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i like soemthing thats a little more brain dead lol for now

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i like to attack then dodge, attack dodge

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:39 PM

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well, eris rail was the closest I got to click to win but you odn't want to play that atm

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:39 PM

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The Twin Fists with Zeus Lightning and Aegis Shield with Ares Doom is pretty Brain Dead

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:39 PM

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shield can become kinda brain dead once you got it but it's block rather than dodge

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I too dont like the Rail Gun that much

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:40 PM

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what aspect for twin fist

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:40 PM

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any aspect will do

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I personally use Talos... the 2nd one

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:40 PM

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for fist you can also go for ares athena duo boon road, not the easiest to build but really storng

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:41 PM

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Zeus and Athena Dash is really easy and powerful on the Twin Fists

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:42 PM

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yeah, that's pretty much the same build as eris rail

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:42 PM

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kk so i should get fist with talos?

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:43 PM

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doesnt really matter tbh, with that build you will use all the fists the same way so basic fist would work too

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:44 PM

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Okay so what exactly do the skull symbols mean for the gates exactly?

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:44 PM

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true... Zagreus Fist has a chance for Dodge...which works really good

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:44 PM

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They seem to indicate harder fights and better rewards

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:44 PM

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that's pretty much it

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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But I'm not really able to tell beyond that

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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difficult fight

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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Ah gotcha then

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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can be a miniboss monster and there is a particular one in elysium

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:45 PM

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I thought there might be more info to discern

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Which one in Elysium?

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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buoyant quarry kk so i should get fist with talos?

in my opinion... if you want a play Brain Dead, then go for Shield and the Twin Fists... any Aspects will do... all of them work fine... the Boons are important

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 3:46 PM

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For that One miniboss?

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:47 PM

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@sullen lava spoiling jus in case || room 30 skulll fight is either miniboss soul catcher or solo asterius fight||

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:47 PM

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i got the shield with chaos aspect

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what bonns are good

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:47 PM

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for Shield... Ares is really Good with Athena Dash

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:47 PM

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which ares

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i just got ares

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 3:48 PM

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zeus on special is nice too, but def better when upgraded

buoyant quarry Nov 29, 2020, 3:48 PM

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special?

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for ares

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:48 PM

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buoyant quarry which ares

Ares Special... get that and spam Special Shield all day

upper raft Nov 29, 2020, 3:49 PM

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what does Alecto's rage meter do? It seems like it should trigger specific attacks but if it does, i can't figure out which

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 3:49 PM

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for Twin Fists, Zeus Lightning Attack is OP... On top of that any boons you find are a plus

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and Athena Dash is really good if you get it

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btw... which Aid/Call is really good against Bosses?

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Artemis?

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Aphro call is really good

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I also love Poseidon

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as a panic button

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Yeah... Aphrodite's Call turns enemies against each other for a while... its really good

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Poseidon and Ares has tracking problems

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Tracking problems?

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Oh, on controller?

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Aphrodite call at max is beeg damage

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Arty is a worse aphro call imo

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Although I love Artemis' Call, as it drains Half Health at full gauge against Theseus

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:08 PM

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leaden whale Oh, on controller?

yeah

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:09 PM

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leaden whale Arty is a worse aphro call imo

really? did they change that stuff in v1.0?

thick prism Nov 29, 2020, 4:09 PM

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im fond of dio and poseidon call myself

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:10 PM

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i'm not sure how it was before v1.0

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aphro has higher guaranteed damage

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it's got a charm

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But Artemis' is Unblockable and can Crit

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yeah, "can"

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it's got a 30% crit chance

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it's 10 arrows at max gauge so that's a 3% chance to get 3k damage or smth

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aphro is 2.5k guaranteed and can stun

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I see... may be I'll try to compare both of them in some future runs

lyric forge Nov 29, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I'm fairly certain that the odds of all 10 arrows from Arty critting simulatenously is much, much, much lower than 3%.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:29 PM

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maybe. if the crit chance really is 30% per arrow, then it should be 3% for all 10

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i just did the maths on vanilla call

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oh, my maths was wrong

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wait, i'm confused myself

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no, it's right

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just add them

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since they're mutually exclusive

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i'm just talking to myself

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it's just 0.3*10

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I thought it was 0.3^10

static anvil Nov 29, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Ew math

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I took stats sophomore year and I do not remember much

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i don't think so, it's just the sum

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i cant find any video rating the Calls/Aids

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i actually had to look up just now since i doubted myself lmao

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"If two events are mutually exclusive, then the probability of either occurring is the sum of the probabilities of each occurring."

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Wait

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its just a person's preference

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No

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the arrows aren't mutually exclusive

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you're right

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it's 1 am for me pls forgive

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so it would be .3^10 which is very small lool

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:36 PM

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0.3*10
You know that's 3, right?

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:36 PM

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It happens 100% of the time, three times, every time

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Seems OP

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:36 PM

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300% chance for all arrows to crit. I'll take that.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:37 PM

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please

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i'm legit reading probability for middle school right now

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:37 PM

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That seems like overkill, lol, just think about it logically and you'll be fine

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You want ten things to happen, each with a 30% chance of them happening, so it's a 30% chance to happen, then another and another, etc.

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So you just multiply 30% ten times, ez

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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0.3^10 is right, i'm an idiot

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really

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why am i in college

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Hey, I have a mathematics major and still make math mistakes.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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anw aphro call > arty, thanks for coming to my ted talk

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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You're not a calculator 😛

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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that's actually a really low chance

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:39 PM

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I am not a math major, and I never make math mistakes.

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Ever.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:40 PM

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odd flex

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Calculators make errors all the time. Mine refuses to divide by zero. squirtooh

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:40 PM

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it's a 1/169350 chance

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:40 PM

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You know, there is a difference between not making a mistake, and recognizing you made a mistake ;P

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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calc taught me that something divided by zero is ±infinity

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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No

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It's not.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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unless if it's 0

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then u gotta wriggle the equation

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well it isn't infinity but the limit of the equation as x approaches that number is infinity

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Yes, there you go.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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isn't that just for limits

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oh

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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Specificity is important.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:41 PM

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u sound like my calc teacher

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:42 PM

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I could be your calc teacher 😄

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Well, I'd have to brush up on my calc anyways, I'm pretty rusty >>

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:42 PM

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its 0.0000059049 chance to crit on Artemis' Aid

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Artemis' Aid can backstab, and the damage can be buffed with poms, Heart Rend, etc.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:43 PM

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how high can you get pressure points with poms realistically

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and its Unblockable by Shielded enemies like the 3rd Boss

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:43 PM

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He can't block Aphrodite's Aid, either.

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Kind of irrelevant on Theseus, anyway, because you'll want to backstab him with Artemis' Aid.

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Zeus and Artemis aid both feel the most satisfying to use.

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Zeus is probably my favorite if I can get a decent double strike boon, tho

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:45 PM

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He cant block Artemi's Aid even from the front

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Yes, but you'll want the backstab damage.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:45 PM

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with nemesis and 10% pressure points there's a 2.8% chance of all 10 critting

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:45 PM

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With Aphrodite's Aid in that fight, you're better off just making those two kill each other. More damage that way.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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civic needle Zeus is probably my favorite if I can get a decent double strike boon, tho

You have to be close to the enemy/boss to get some damage out of Zeus' call... so it cant get you out of a sticky situation imo

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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It can. Activating any call gives you i-frames.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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gray haven With Aphrodite's Aid in that fight, you're better off just making those two kill...

Thats true tho

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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I'm usually playing with melee weapons, though, so I tend to be pretty close to and stay pretty close to whatever I'm fighting.

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Nemesis only gives crit chance to Attack.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:47 PM

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so Artemis' and Aphrodite's Aid is up there for debate 😛

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oh I had no clue

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Even if Aphrodite's aid were the best aid mathematically by a mile, I'd still never use it.

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It never feels as fun as Artemis or Zeus

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Poseidon is my favorite aid for the fun factor

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:48 PM

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I'd only take Artemis' Aid for Heart Rend builds or if it's like the last boon or something. But it's really good for those.

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:48 PM

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"Cowabunga it is" -Poseidon's Aid

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:48 PM

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civic needle It never feels as fun as Artemis or Zeus

what do you mean fun... please explain 🤔

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wheeeeeeee

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:49 PM

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It's a very subjective thing, but the best way I can describe it is that Aphrodite's aid feels weak, and looks visually unimpressive compared to firing off Artemis' Arrows, or calling down Zeus' Lightning

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It would be totally different if, say, rather than shooting a seeking heart, Aphrodite's aid blasted whatever was in front of you with a kamehameha-beam-attack type thing, because it would look like it hurt as much as it actually hurts

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:50 PM

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gray haven It can. Activating any call gives you i-frames.

I did not know this. Is it just a tiny window?

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 4:51 PM

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It's pretty lenient. Probably a bit longer than an empty dash? Somewhere around that, anyway.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:53 PM

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civic needle It would be totally different if, say, rather than shooting a seeking heart, Aph...

yeah I get what you are saying

daring delta Nov 29, 2020, 4:54 PM

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civic needle It would be totally different if, say, rather than shooting a seeking heart, Aph...

Sometimes love can hurt the most

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I would rather have my heart broken than get shot by an arrow or struck by lightning tbh 😄

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 4:59 PM

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btw... how do you give Hades the 2nd Nectar? I have beaten the game today

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but I am not able to give him the 2nd Nectar yet

daring delta Nov 29, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Keep beating the game

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:00 PM

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what!!!

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Keep beating the game

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 5:01 PM

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^

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clearing a run =/= beating the game

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Well yes, but also no.

daring delta Nov 29, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Are you just going to not see ||your mother|| again?

lyric quiver Nov 29, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Is it just me or hades looks very silly when standing up?

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he looks like this

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https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/attractive-young-caucasian-woman-blond-curly-hair-casual-white-t-shirt-standing-straight-looking-directly-camera-178552120.jpg

static anvil Nov 29, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Hue hue I laughed when I saw him too failbag

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His back is all hunched bouldy

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He needs to take posture lessons from Zag

limpid urchin Nov 29, 2020, 5:04 PM

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In the name of Hades! Olympus! I accept this message!
_sorry but the voice acting it's so cool I really like this quote _

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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bout to buy this game guys

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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reminds me of the "everyone is so mean 2 me" meme

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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first time lol

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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Get in there and have some fun yo

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:12 PM

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did yall get it on steam?

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Yes.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:13 PM

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ye

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:13 PM

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nice alright

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any tips?

fair cove Nov 29, 2020, 5:13 PM

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I got mine on the Switch cause it was on sale xd

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Try everything. Don't forget to use all your abilities.

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:13 PM

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its on sale atm for 19.99

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Learn enemy attack patterns and get out of the way of them to become better at the game. That's about it lol

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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yall play with controller?

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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MnK

late flower Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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no

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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really?

late flower Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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keyboard and mouse is really the way to go

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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KBM as well

late flower Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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we love to see it

civic needle Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Yeah, controller is fine, MnK is fine too, it's just personal preference.

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:14 PM

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i've heard it's easier aim-wise but i haven't tried controller myself

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KBM, i mean

late flower Nov 29, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I think its easier for quick attacks as well, for this game i mean

gray haven Nov 29, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Most of the top Hades players play on pad. But there are some who use KBM.

ember citrus Nov 29, 2020, 5:24 PM

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I have seen people use Controller and Mouse

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:38 PM

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what yall play in directX?

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default

ember citrus Nov 29, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Yup

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:39 PM

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wish me luck lol

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Have fun!

dry hatch Nov 29, 2020, 5:40 PM

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yall aint playing on hell mode are you lol

static anvil Nov 29, 2020, 5:42 PM

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Some people do

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Most I think play on normal

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 5:44 PM

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played on normal but after taking a look, the hell mode downside doesn't seem like it would matter much as you'd want to avoid getting hit that hard anyway

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and if the ||heat|| it gives counts for the prizes, it might actually make some challenges late-game easier

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 5:45 PM

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double bar

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i saw someone on here who regretted playing on hell mode since it had a ||mandatory pact condition|| they didn't want

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 5:46 PM

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woops, I'm tired it seems

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hard to say when everything moves fast, but it feels like the temporary i-frames you get after taking a big hit in normal mode is something I never end up having, because I die from multiple hits rather than a big one

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in that case, that hell mode 'downside' would actually end up being beneficial when doing ||skelly's prizes since it's free heat||

wooden trench Nov 29, 2020, 6:03 PM

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Do I get more diamonds then one for ||deafeating second boss with each weapon||? Because then I had to choose two or three of those upgrades, because I cant afford all; and I'm afraid of picking the wrong ones and ruining the save state

worthy osprey Nov 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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which of the options are smart to pick for Eurydice

ember citrus Nov 29, 2020, 6:06 PM

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@wooden trench yess you do

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@worthy osprey i prefer first option

wooden trench Nov 29, 2020, 6:07 PM

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ah, okay. so no chance to "skill wrong" in this game

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 6:08 PM

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you will eventually unlock trade for diamonds with the broker, and a post-clear mechanic will allow you to farm more

wooden trench Nov 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ah, I already got that options for 10 nectar

worthy osprey Nov 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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ember citrus <@376037488265003022> i prefer first option

thank you
this was the first time i met her will she appear in every run from now of?

ember citrus Nov 29, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Not every run i think

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For me it is around 1 /2 to 2 out of 3

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 6:10 PM

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@wooden trench keep in mind that it means that gems, keys and nectar can all be eventually turned into diamonds

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for eurydice option, it depends on your current build

wooden trench Nov 29, 2020, 6:11 PM

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that you for that advice. For now I'm stuck at the 3rd boss

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 6:11 PM

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if you have very few boons, they are core and/or feeling lucky, pick the first

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if you have a bunch of boons you might want to pick the second. Buff is weaker but more rng friendly

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if you are still looking for your core boons, might want the pick the third

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Ugh getting so close but ||Hades' second phase|| wipes the floor with me

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 6:21 PM

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wooden trench Do I get more diamonds then one for ||deafeating second boss with each weapon||?...

It takes a while to get more than the first six, though, but there's several ways, including some rewards from the fated list. The early upgrades are a little annoying as a lot of them just unlock more things to spend diamonds on 😆

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Do you know how to avoid the ||lasers||?

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Personally I'd save at least one for a thing you can't buy until you reach the end boss (spoilers for that thing: ||there's a fishing rod that costs a diamond and using it gets you extra gems, nectar, and a ton more when you trade fish to the head chef. plus it's fun||)

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 6:23 PM

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sly vigil Do you know how to avoid the ||lasers||?

For those I just circle strafed away from them and that seemed alright but I kept running into the ||urns|| trying to avoid other things. If you mean the ||multicolored ones that come out in a wide circular pattern|| than no, I have no clue

uncut parrot Nov 29, 2020, 6:24 PM

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||you dodge the big lasers by hiding behind the rock pillars, as for the shock waves, you either dash through it or destroy the skull before it triggers||

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||or go far enough to be out of reach||

ember citrus Nov 29, 2020, 6:24 PM

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You can hug him to avoid the laser

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 6:24 PM

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Spoiler for certain mechanics of final boss: ||For the 3 beam lasers, you can continuously dash behind and strafe the lasers. The turn rate is quite low so you can get in some free hits. As for the omni directional lasers, you can dash on top of Hades. There is a safe spot there. Then you can attack him for the duration. Of course you can also hide behind rocks like normal.||

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 6:25 PM

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oh cool, thanks!

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||and yeah, for the shock waves I was mostly relying on destroying the skulls, which served me well enough in the first phase||

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@hot yoke hello and sorry for pinging you, but any suggestions for the chaos shield?

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 6:29 PM

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no worries got discord on my phone lol

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I beat it once again using your suggestions for the rail so I am kinda really grateful!

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 6:30 PM

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Chaos: Ares Attack/Demeter Attack, Zeus Special,Jolted, ideally Splitting Bolt, ideally Divine Dash or something to enable Privilege Status if you don't have Jolted

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fire|Dionysus Flourish, Bad influence, Aphrodite and ares duo, Privileged Status, maybe zeus aid and smoldering air

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Ok will try something along those lines!

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Do you mean Demeter Special for Artic Blast stacking?

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Thank you again

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 6:33 PM

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Hmm ig Dem Attack works for Cold Fusion purposes.

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 6:33 PM

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thtas the idea

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just for ez ps

sly vigil Nov 29, 2020, 6:33 PM

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and Priv Staus yeah

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@hot yoke YEEESSS AGAIN Your builds are just awesome mah dood!

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 7:31 PM

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Lol thanks
I'm not the inventor of this one though xD

void tendon Nov 29, 2020, 7:32 PM

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Which melee weapon build has the fastest clear time?

kindred mason Nov 29, 2020, 7:33 PM

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idk actually. i mostly use fists cause they have high attack speed

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Also depends on category

kindred mason Nov 29, 2020, 7:34 PM

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true

zenith phoenix Nov 29, 2020, 7:34 PM

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the real question is fists or sword for lambent plume

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more dodge or more SCHMOVIN

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Zag fists

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Cause passive dodge chance

void tendon Nov 29, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Disregard

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 7:36 PM

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Tag pls

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Secret aspects name is spoiler

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Depends more on your own skill with the weapon and the apsect than the weapon

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@hot yoke ok, so chiron bow or hera bow? And suggestions? You only need to do one

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 7:39 PM

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I'll just dm you my entire build sheet lol

modern pike Nov 29, 2020, 7:39 PM

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Wish I could send you flowers or something as thanks for bothering you all the time haha 🌹🌻💮🌼🏵️🌸

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Ooh I would love that!

void tendon Nov 29, 2020, 7:43 PM

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@hot yoke oh i didnt know that was a secret aspect, my bad

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 7:44 PM

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No worries m8

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|| on both sides

novel zinc Nov 29, 2020, 9:41 PM

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hot yoke I'll just dm you my entire build sheet lol

could you send me this as well?

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Oh my god I used the heart seeking bow for the first time. I thought I wouldnt like it, but I actually love it. I got through Meg the best with this

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I actually like the bow now

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 9:53 PM

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that's how most people feel with the bow haha

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start off thinking you'll hate it but you end up loving it

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 9:53 PM

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Bows usually arent within my style for most games

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(Except for BOTW)

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But here I like it

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 9:54 PM

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it can feel pretty good once you get the hang of it

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Chiron and Hera aspect are spicy too

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f Rama tho

harsh leaf Nov 29, 2020, 9:56 PM

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brave solstice But here I like it

Remember to always dash-attack and you're golden!

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Yeah I do that a lot

harsh leaf Nov 29, 2020, 10:11 PM

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shadesmile

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Oh my god who is this honky man ive just met

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thanthink Thanatos hours 😳

leaden whale Nov 29, 2020, 10:33 PM

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Thanatos simp hours

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24/7

lyric quiver Nov 29, 2020, 10:59 PM

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That's my husband zagluv

brave solstice Nov 29, 2020, 11:12 PM

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Our husband residentzag

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Communism shipping

sullen lava Nov 29, 2020, 11:21 PM

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I ship Than and Zag so hard

fathom mulch Nov 29, 2020, 11:42 PM

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Thanks so much for the tips earlier today! I finally did it! 😄

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First run of many I hope 🙂

thorny bobcat Nov 29, 2020, 11:45 PM

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congrats!

hot yoke Nov 29, 2020, 11:45 PM

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The first is the hardest :D

dry hatch Nov 30, 2020, 12:01 AM

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What weapon y’all recommend upgrading first

hot yoke Nov 30, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Eris aspect

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For rail

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:02 AM

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whatever you like, but I think I upgraded the basic zag aspects first and chiron bow

dry hatch Nov 30, 2020, 12:02 AM

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What is the eris aspect

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:03 AM

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railgun aspect

hot yoke Nov 30, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Eris will give you the most bang for your buck powers level wise
Otherwise I can agree with @floral nacelle on the whatever you like part

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:03 AM

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after you stand in special, you do more damage

hot yoke Nov 30, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Global damage
One if the few global damage bonuses in the game

dry hatch Nov 30, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Ahh aspect of eris

hot yoke Nov 30, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Also the zag bow aspect only costs 5 blood to upgrade and gives you a nice benefit if you like bow

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Also a lot of people find chiron easy to play with
But that wants to be maxed
Similar to eris

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:24 AM

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question: I’m trying to do the fated list and get stuff I haven’t got, is it better to get a heroic or a duo?

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which is more rare in a sense I guess, so I pick it lol

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:26 AM

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heroic just a replacement (or upgrade from eurydice), duo are god pairings

fathom mulch Nov 30, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Post-first-win question: ||If I do a run with a heat bounty on, and I haven't yet gotten the no-heat reward for that weapon on a boss, do I get two of whatever at once, or just the one?||

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:27 AM

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depends on the duo, but I generally favor duos

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:27 AM

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ohhh okay I see

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:27 AM

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and you get just the one bounty

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:27 AM

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I’ll just do the duo

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thanks!

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:28 AM

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some duos really aren't that great, others make or break certain builds

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:28 AM

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I’m mainly doing runs rn not to fight but to get quests done haha

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:28 AM

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and others that are generally good for later on, like exclusive access, which give you an increased power level

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:28 AM

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get as much darkness/gems rn

sour wedge Nov 30, 2020, 12:29 AM

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darkness huh

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:29 AM

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yeee

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but mainly keys so I can unlock more talents

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so I need more gems... LOL

sour wedge Nov 30, 2020, 12:30 AM

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ohh

severe steeple Nov 30, 2020, 12:30 AM

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mhm

sour wedge Nov 30, 2020, 12:33 AM

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how much darkness tho

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all i can get?

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:34 AM

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unlimited

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but wiki says 35,365 darkness to max out mirror

trim thicket Nov 30, 2020, 12:36 AM

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also late game theres || an aesthetic purchase from contractor for 25k darkness || if ure into completing/having everything

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:36 AM

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there's a plot thing later too in which you need a lot of darkness too

sour wedge Nov 30, 2020, 12:40 AM

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damn

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so I need 35k just to max out mirror

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I only have like 1k lol

trim thicket Nov 30, 2020, 12:41 AM

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yeah dw about it darkness farming gets easier once uve beat the game the first time

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but also as a tip maybe find out || which "side" of the mirror || u like most and focus on upgrading that first

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:42 AM

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also you can respec your mirror too, which I thought made the mirror prophecy cheaper to do

sour wedge Nov 30, 2020, 12:43 AM

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but it doesn´t?

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 12:43 AM

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Bokuto's spoilers will explain

harsh leaf Nov 30, 2020, 12:48 AM

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sour wedge so I need 35k just to max out mirror

20k is just the very last perk, 10k each side

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And as Beamer said, you dont really need to max both sides of every perk out

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 1:11 AM

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everytime i make it to ||Pat's|| chambers i feel the need to linger, and its not just for the music. ||man's|| just so [clenches fist] L O N E L Y

lyric quiver Nov 30, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Am i just using Aphrodite's cast wrong or is it really bad? ron

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 1:12 AM

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her attack and call are better

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imo amongst the better choices for a cast would be athena and artemis

fathom mulch Nov 30, 2020, 1:35 AM

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fathom mulch Post-first-win question: ||If I do a run with a heat bounty on, and I haven't ye...

To answer my own question (now that I've tested it): ||you get the reward for the heat level bounty, but not the 0-heat win||

lyric quiver Nov 30, 2020, 1:41 AM

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modest steeple her attack and call are better

I thought so. It's weird that it's really short range but deals small damage. I thought Aphrodite boons always give big damage.

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I got her legendary boon for the first time though and I love it. It's really funny that it also affevts bosses

harsh leaf Nov 30, 2020, 1:53 AM

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lyric quiver I got her legendary boon for the first time though and I love it. It's really fu...

Her call also affects bosses, no reason why the legendary wouldnt work

lyric quiver Nov 30, 2020, 1:57 AM

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harsh leaf Her call also affects bosses, no reason why the legendary wouldnt work

I didn't notice that. I think I've only used her call twice. I just thought the 15% chance was really high and they would balance it with the status not affecting bosses. It's really funny with the chiron bow. ron

short wing Nov 30, 2020, 2:08 AM

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Hi quick question i thought that they added a multibuy button for the material exchange

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did they ever add it or am I misremembering

harsh leaf Nov 30, 2020, 2:21 AM

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That feature hasnt existed in all the time I've been playing, but I only started with 1.0

fresh gate Nov 30, 2020, 2:22 AM

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I wish it were a thing

velvet monolith Nov 30, 2020, 2:31 AM

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modest steeple everytime i make it to ||Pat's|| chambers i feel the need to linger, and its not...

I feel that the music and secenery is so melacholy which is impressive given that Elysium all kinda looks the same. they did great with setting the mood ~~and making us cry~~

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 3:34 AM

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YES. you've described it so well. everywhere else is about as blissful as it gets, but the moment you enter his chamber you feel the weight of his longing and regret, and not just that there's history too in the way they designed his chamber and i just-

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:34 AM

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i hate the bosses there at elysium

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my new roadblock smh

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 3:35 AM

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i know the feeling failbag
but keep at it. you can do it! a tip: take out ||Asterius|| first.

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:36 AM

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yeh my second time i did it

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but my hp got low and that other useless idiot ended me

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 3:37 AM

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ouch. yeah he def is the more annoying one

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:37 AM

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i don't mind dying to the bull guy but dying to theseus sucks

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 3:38 AM

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mood

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:38 AM

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mood xD

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2 more places after elysium right?

upbeat mason Nov 30, 2020, 3:38 AM

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||1||

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:39 AM

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im okay with spoilers

modest steeple Nov 30, 2020, 3:39 AM

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||hmmm... more like one more and then final boss||

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:39 AM

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zaglol

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oh okeh that made it less frustrating

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 3:39 AM

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how familiar are you with the underworld in greek mythology?

heady comet Nov 30, 2020, 3:39 AM

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||and then a region where you're gonna die in, for the first few times||

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:40 AM

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eeh

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 3:40 AM

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I don't think it's a spoiler to say that cerberus guards the entrance/exit, but thankfully you don't have to fight him

upbeat mason Nov 30, 2020, 3:40 AM

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||the banana peels are too strong||

exotic tulip Nov 30, 2020, 3:44 AM

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makes sense

obtuse pasture Nov 30, 2020, 4:56 AM

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just jump into this, ¿everytime i died had to run all over again? or is there a kind of a "check point" somewhere?

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 4:56 AM

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that's the nature of a roguelite

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you have to start over every time

obtuse pasture Nov 30, 2020, 4:57 AM

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ok, and can i save in the middle of a run? and restart over tomorrow?

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 4:57 AM

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but this game actually has some meta progression that persists between runs, the work orders at the contractor and the mirror

obtuse pasture Nov 30, 2020, 4:57 AM

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i see

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 4:58 AM

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you can quit out and resume from the same room

obtuse pasture Nov 30, 2020, 4:58 AM

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oh

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didnt knew that

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thanks

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 4:58 AM

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you can't quit out at certain rooms, like the shop right before a boss

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maybe only if you've already bought something at the shop?

obtuse pasture Nov 30, 2020, 4:59 AM

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ill try it out

pulsar frigate Nov 30, 2020, 5:00 AM

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the game will let you leave every time the autosave symbol appears in the top right, but will force you to Give Up the first time you’ve taken damage in a room or after you picked up an item with a choice (boon, pom, etc)

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and then it’ll reset when you autosave again, of course

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interesting thing to note too, the game autosaves after you pick up a choice item in a regular chamber, but doesn’t after you buy such an item in charon’s shop

fathom mulch Nov 30, 2020, 5:48 AM

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floral nacelle I don't think it's a spoiler to say that cerberus guards the entrance/exit, but ...

That definitely feels like a spoiler!

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The ||fight fake out|| is a really great moment to discover unspoiled

wanton gulch Nov 30, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Hello guys new player here, question so I was running earlier and didn't notice that there is a chaos room available and Chaos communicate to me saying "I summon you" something like that but I already click to go next room, after few runs I encounter chaos but Chaos did not give kr say anything like that again. Did I miss something or is it just random Chaos phrase thing?

sly vigil Nov 30, 2020, 6:16 AM

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It's a random phrase.

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You didn't miss anything. Don't worry.

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:30 AM

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technically he did summon you

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:32 AM

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"CERBERUS IMPRESSED"

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i laughed

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ive made it to surface about 5 or 6 times and every time i watch to see the cerberus message

pastel cipher Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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@floral nacelle that's definitely a spoiler, especially for newer players so please use spoiler tags ^_^ ||the cerberus non fight thing||

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:33 AM

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i need some tips for defeating the heroes because every time i get to the end of elysium i get wrecked

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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stoic dagger ive made it to surface about 5 or 6 times and every time i watch to see the cerb...

last one i see is "cerberus slaughtered (you did this)"

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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ive seen that one too!

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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focus asterius over theseus, and just get a habit of know what the animation wind-ups are

sleek spire Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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pastel cipher <@301948683929518080> that's definitely a spoiler, especially for newer players ...

agreed

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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when theseus does his first call is when he's most availble to take hits

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:34 AM

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spear is more annoying than the running guy with axe

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:35 AM

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spear is very annoying

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i can stop the axe charge consistently but i keep stopping it and putting myself in a position where im vulnerable to the spear throw

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and of course its always ready

sleek spire Nov 30, 2020, 6:36 AM

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stoic dagger spear is very annoying

after a while you get used to its color change

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 6:36 AM

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And of course you need to hide behind a pillar but it can be hard to time it

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:36 AM

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have i noticed correctly that it has a maximum range

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or am i seeing things wrong

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i jsut kill theseus first since its easier for my case

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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yeah... theseus' spear is the most annoying... it does a TON of damage, even when resisted

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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theseus is kind of annoying to kill though because of his shield

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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dense laurel i jsut kill theseus first since its easier for my case

imma try this today

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i do see the cycle where he throws the spear, calls it back, then walks to the edge and hes vulnerable while walking

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:38 AM

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then again, i even use my bow like melee so

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:38 AM

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but its hard to capitalize on that when im also having to kite the bull

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doesnt matter because my last run was a W because i ended up using a grand total of 6 death defies

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shoutout to chaos

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:39 AM

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6?!!😱

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:39 AM

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lmao yeah

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had no right losing the first one, died to the fury

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:39 AM

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thats bad

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Fury is easy

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:39 AM

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had bad boons

sleek spire Nov 30, 2020, 6:39 AM

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stoic dagger but its hard to capitalize on that when im also having to kite the bull

you shouldn't be thinking about both of them at the same time

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:40 AM

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my run was held together by dreams, elmers stick glue, and luck

sleek spire Nov 30, 2020, 6:40 AM

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just try to kill asterius while trying to avoid spear throws

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:40 AM

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I run Stubborn Defiance, so technically its just 1 Death Defiance for me every fight lol xD

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:40 AM

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got the dio/poseidon duo boon on the way out of tartarus ||all of your boons are epic or above||

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so i had good numbers even if i had no synergies

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:41 AM

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make it 2/3 with athena boon and chaos legend

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:41 AM

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i got the chaos legend

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in elysium

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that was a pog moment

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lost two defies in elysium

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refilled one in styx and used 3 on hades

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literally too angry to die

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:43 AM

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I sometimes find Theseus harder than Hades, to be honest!

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:43 AM

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i feel like there's way more visual clutter on the theseus battle than the hades battle

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:43 AM

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||nuking theseus|| is my favorite part of all my runs lol

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:43 AM

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its harder to understand whats happening

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:43 AM

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true true

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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like i got no idea what his deal is half the time

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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leaden whale ||nuking theseus|| is my favorite part of all my runs lol

how do you do that lol xD

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with something you unlock later

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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laaaaame

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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leaden whale with something you unlock later

the ||Companions||?

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Hades: Come for the roguelike, stay for aphrodite sprite

lyric quiver Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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I always lure asterius behind the pillars. That way theseus won't be able to hit me with his spear.

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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yea

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:44 AM

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leaden whale yea

which one you using?

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||than's||

sleek spire Nov 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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artemis' call is also a great way to nuke theseus

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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yeah my problem is i make him run into the pillar and then i end up right next to theseus

lyric quiver Nov 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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Athena dash will help a lot when deflectingasterius attacks

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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sleek spire artemis' call is also a great way to nuke theseus

yeah!... I use that instead of Aphrodite

dense laurel Nov 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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i nuke theseus with the greatest insult: bouldy

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:45 AM

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i think my underlying issue is that i cant keep track of theseus

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its easy to see asterius because the lad is huge

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but theseus can get hidden behind lightning bolts and axe swings

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:46 AM

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I usually rely on sound cues

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and the crosshair

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:46 AM

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and then theseus thanks the crowd for subbing to his onlyfans

floral nacelle Nov 30, 2020, 6:46 AM

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Plus he blocks all the time

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:47 AM

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the 3rd Boss Fight background also has a lot of Graphic Noise... so its even harder to keep track of whats going on

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:47 AM

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yeah i play with music on

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and i sometimes play in a voice call

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and im hearing impaired

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audio cues arent a solution

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:48 AM

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are SGG gonna port the game to PS and XBox yet?

lyric quiver Nov 30, 2020, 6:48 AM

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Yeah, i think i tried to nuke asterius really fast instead on my first clear there. A point blank special for bow rips a lot of health.

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:48 AM

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im so happy this game has amazing subtitles

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the captioning is great

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love it

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:50 AM

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lyric quiver Yeah, i think i tried to nuke asterius really fast instead on my first clear the...

Thats risky... but you can use the Chiron Bow for even more damage

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:50 AM

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does twin shot bow reduce your range

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that is a thing right

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:50 AM

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not noticeably from my experience

stoic dagger Nov 30, 2020, 6:50 AM

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it was very noticeable when i took it 😦

leaden whale Nov 30, 2020, 6:51 AM

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it reduces it to 2/3

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but u get double damage

slender kraken Nov 30, 2020, 6:51 AM

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twin shot reduces range by halfish