h1-for-new-players

[gusty atlas]

who said that

[sterile solar]

@sterile solar || I've signed no pact. ||
Thats what you think

[gusty atlas]

of course it is, that's why I said it.

[sterile solar]

I have around 50 spare blood i wish I could trade

[gusty atlas]

considering how little luck I've had with ||0 heat||, I haven't bothered much with || the pact|| yet

[harsh leaf]

What's your god mode % at liminal

[potent anvil]

what are the blessings rank?

i mean if blue one is better than purple one

[candid nimbus]

rarity?

[potent anvil]

yeah

[harsh leaf]

Common
Rare
Epic
Heroic

[sterile solar]

Legendary and duo are their own tier

[harsh leaf]

Legendary and Duo boons are special, they are rarest and require several conditions

[potent anvil]

thanks 😛

[harsh leaf]

Heroic boons can only be obtained if a god offers to trade one of your current boons

Or with ||a special boon from demeter||

[gusty atlas]

oh, I did'nt know that

[patent cedar]

Heroic you basically have to actively upgrade the rarity somehow

[sterile solar]

Or eurydice

[harsh leaf]

Or by randomly lucking into an upgrade with Euridyce

[patent cedar]

Invlolving trading a boon for another god's boon and stuff

[harsh leaf]

But most commonly by boon trade

However, consider that a single Pom level will usually be the same as taking a boon from Common to Rare

Poms are quite valuable, especially early game!

[sterile solar]

Yeh lvl 1-3 are quite good

[harsh leaf]

Though a couple of boons actually benefit evenly from Pom levels and have no diminishing returns, but dont worry about that

[cosmic willow]

is ||beowulf shield's minotaur rush|| bugged? it's supposed to deal 500% normally it's 100 dmg,. but it's only doing 350 dmg

[harsh leaf]

Is that damage with or without casts?

[cosmic willow]

isn't it the same?

[harsh leaf]

No, the hammer only affects attack damage

[cosmic willow]

yeah, but i'm not counting cast dmg i guess, i think i just see it's 350

[harsh leaf]

Then it might be a bug, or it might have changed in some patch and they forgot to update the tooltip

[cosmic willow]

also side note, does hermes special speed affect the shield's travel speed or is it just like how often i can throw it?

[dense laurel]

i think the animation of throwing

[cosmic willow]

debating if i should take that or dodge 🤔

[sterile solar]

Can never go wrong with dodge

[candid nimbus]

Oh I thought it did speed up the shield

[sterile solar]

Especially if the dodge is epic

[cosmic willow]

it's epic dodge and epic special speed

i feel like since the shield throw is slow then this might be a big dps boost

[sterile solar]

Is up to you

[shut flame]

i cannot for the life of me ||beat hades.|| can someone give me some tips?

[nova helm]

What parts in particular are you struggling with?

[shut flame]

ive only managed to ||bring him down to zero health once and he regains all his strength... idk i just cant figure it out||

||should i be destroying those little fire balls as soon as they come up?||

[sterile solar]

If youre struggling to dodge them

Yes

[shut flame]

i see they dont do anything other than sit there and deal dmg if you run into them?

[candid nimbus]

If you're able yeah, sometimes I just have to keep an eye out or fight away from them

there's a timer

don't think they do contact damage once on the ground

[sterile solar]

Theres a wave

Only the edge of the wave hurts

So you can dash thru it

[shut flame]

ooh got it. i thought they waves were coming from ||hades||

[sterile solar]

No, they come from the skull

[nova helm]

||The skulls have a timer and then they send out a shockwave, so if you're having issues dodging that shockwave, just take them out quick. Hades does send out a shockwave of his own once you get him to zero health for the first time though.||

[sterile solar]

Yeah when he revive he also sends one wave

But thats the only time

[shut flame]

||how many times do you have to bring him to zero health?||

[sterile solar]

Just 2

||for now||

[nova helm]

... The paaaain. xD

[earnest vault]

small question about ||the fated list|| - if a ||boon|| has ||a list icon|| what does it mean?

[dense laurel]

he literallys uses a death defiance

[candid nimbus]

A list icon means you need to grab it for a ||prophecy||

[harsh leaf]

he literallys uses a death defiance
@dense laurel I really think it would have been better if "Death Defied!" popped up over him

[sterile solar]

They both have a lot of similar abilities

[leaden whale]

why this boss ||hades|| is lagging ? ||during phase 2, he's sliding around the map, it looks like a multiplayer game 🤔 ||

[gusty atlas]

oh gosh, it's doubley confusing

[gusty atlas]

I think this was an awful idea 😦

[harsh leaf]

What now

[gusty atlas]

bought what I thought was an xbox controller, under the question of would the responsiveness/button layout issue help some ofd the issues I've been having. Buuut....looks like a) it's a clone, b) since it's a clone, may be more of a headache to get working with my sytem, and c) I'm a 130 runs deep, idk if re-learning buttons is a good idea or not
@gusty atlas

apparently the buttons are both labeled differentcly and mapped differently

so every button is differentt

my brain is melting

[candid nimbus]

Oh God

[gusty atlas]

so teh a button is the south button, on the switch controller that was the b button, which was cancel in menu and cast in the game

in this controller, that's dash and accept

[harsh leaf]

Yeah but the "south" button still does the same things as on the switch

[gusty atlas]

nope

it does neither of the same things

[harsh leaf]

Oh you mean accept and cancel

[gusty atlas]

nope

[candid nimbus]

Got a lot of rebind work ahead of you it seems

[gusty atlas]

not just accept and cancel, but attack and special are swaped, and cast and dash are swapped

[harsh leaf]

I am unfamiliar with keybinds on switch

[gusty atlas]

I was never playing on switch

[harsh leaf]

But if that's the issue you can just.... change the bindings in the menu

[gusty atlas]

I was plugging a usb switch pro controller into my computer

[harsh leaf]

Maybe that's why you had issues all this time? Wonky key binds?

[gusty atlas]

that was the question i was trying, but also all my muscle memory is shot now

lol

but I doubt it, because the attack and dash were still next to each other

they were just the north/east button instead of the south/west buttons

[harsh leaf]

Well, dash special should be easier at least

[gusty atlas]

no, because it's north/south cross instead ofd east/west cross

it's never easy

lol

[harsh leaf]

Yeah, I find that easier

[gusty atlas]

also, it seems useless?

no idea why dash-special is useful

[candid nimbus]

for malphon

[harsh leaf]

Dash special? It's useful for a couple things, mainly fists

But also one shield hammer

[gusty atlas]

it's only valid on fists, but don't know what it's actually useful for

[harsh leaf]

(which isnt good)

[gusty atlas]

is it?

I never saw that hammer I guess

[harsh leaf]

liminal, dash attacks are usually faster than regular attacks. Ergo, fists dash special is faster than just special.

Dash special is also quite good when using Chiron, for what it's worth

[gusty atlas]

...

I see

[harsh leaf]

Though it isn't, like, an actual change

It's just useful to dash away and hit special

[gusty atlas]

chiron is in my bottom 2 aspects

I cannot get it to function

down there with eris rail

[harsh leaf]

Chiron is probably the best bow, but it really needs the TB investment

[gusty atlas]

I said my bottom aspects

=I know these are both meta

[candid nimbus]

Lol I never use chiron or eris

[gusty atlas]

But I cannot get them to function

[harsh leaf]

Well, they both require a lot of TB to really "function"

Though Eris rail is better than Zag aspect even at level 1

[candid nimbus]

They both have their builds and use though, so figuring them out may prove useful

[formal rover]

down there with eris rail
oh boy

[harsh leaf]

Not sure how it's harder than Zag Rail to "make function" though

[candid nimbus]

but completely respectable to never use them I suppose

[gusty atlas]

Easy. Eris rail kills me faster than zag rail because the auto-aim pulls my special into a enemy or trap and then I die trying to get "hit" by it to activate the buff

[formal rover]

eris might be the best aspect in the game, in so far as that’s measurable

perfectly fair if it’s not your playstyle ofc

[gusty atlas]

My claim was that I cannot get it to function

I owned it's a me problem

[candid nimbus]

Ah controller, not sure how people do it

[sterile solar]

turn off auto aim, i hate it

[gusty atlas]

then I couldn't hit anything

[sterile solar]

oh controller nvm

[gusty atlas]

I cannot kbm

[formal rover]

ah, controller

[gusty atlas]

game will not function

[sterile solar]

understandable

[formal rover]

idk loads of people seem to do great with rail on controller

and i cannot for the life of me figure out how

[harsh leaf]

Rail on controller is just fine, provided you rebind the reload

[sterile solar]

i cannot figure out how people play with controller period

lmfao

[formal rover]

this is why i stick to KBM lol

[sterile solar]

i know is preference

[formal rover]

same honestly

like, i’ve tried

[sterile solar]

same

[formal rover]

and i can’t do it

[sterile solar]

same

[harsh leaf]

I prefer action games on controller

Thought it might get wonky with the ranged weapons but it's actually great!

[sterile solar]

the only game ive played with controller and it still kills my hands is rocket league

[dense laurel]

its just a whole lot easier using rails with a special build

[harsh leaf]

With controller I can use my dominant hand for all the attacks and left hand only controls the stick, which is what I prefer. Thankfully, Hades doesnt require more than two button presses at a time

[formal rover]

i can understand that preference; i rebound special/summon/reload to mouse buttons for a similar result

that KBM special default is... an interesting choice imo lol

[sterile solar]

havent changed a single key

[harsh leaf]

that KBM special default is... an interesting choice imo lol
@formal rover wait, what is it?

[candid nimbus]

Q

[sterile solar]

yeah q

[harsh leaf]

So you cant special while moving left? LOL

[formal rover]

they had control and shift open, and they put special in a place where it interferes with your movement

[sterile solar]

I do lol

with my middle finger

dont know how

[formal rover]

you hit Q with you middle finger while moving?

[sterile solar]

yeah

to the left

[harsh leaf]

You got some freaky fingers my man

[formal rover]

that’s kinda impressive and/or awkward

[sterile solar]

specifically when moving left

wow

ima back off from this channel for a bit

[candid nimbus]

I mean it's possible... I think I did that back before I swapped

[sterile solar]

thats how i do with ||gilgamesh|| lol

[formal rover]

sorry, not tryna be a jerk

i just can’t use Q personally

[sterile solar]

its all good

is all about preference

theres no best layout

[formal rover]

yeah

[gusty atlas]

anyway, what I was actually saying is that game only tells you that dash-special exists w/ fists, so I was actually 100% convinced that dash-special didn't actually function w/ other weapons.

[sterile solar]

kalista from league taught me how to press a and q at the same time

[gusty atlas]

so I guess I finally learned something after 130 runs

[sterile solar]

since i use the attack button with her

it doesnt

is just q

with the fist

however you can dash and special with other weapons

but thats not actually an extra mechanic

just a tip

[gusty atlas]

you just said it was faster

which means it's a separate something

[sterile solar]

uh?

what was faster

[candid nimbus]

[gusty atlas]

sorry

not you, 4th queen said it

that dash-special was a faster special w/ chiron

I lost the thread

yall are really good at confusing me

just sayin

😄

[sterile solar]

i believe it just cancels the animation

[harsh leaf]

I was talking specifically about the fists back there

[sterile solar]

making it faster

[harsh leaf]

My bad

[gusty atlas]

telling me things are impossible

Dash special is also quite good when using Chiron, for what it's worth
@harsh leaf

[sterile solar]

the only weapon with dash special as a mechanic is malphon

[harsh leaf]

Read the next line I said

[gusty atlas]

chiron is bow, no?

[harsh leaf]

yes

[gusty atlas]

then?-

what am I missing?

[sterile solar]

Though it isn't, like, an actual change
It's just useful to dash away and hit special

[harsh leaf]

Then I said that dashing away while using special is good

[sterile solar]

thats what he said

[harsh leaf]

Not that it's faster

[gusty atlas]

headdesk

I give up

[sterile solar]

it just lets you get away from danger while still using special

[gusty atlas]

nothing is gonna save this game

[sterile solar]

the game doesnt need saving?

[gusty atlas]

I'm never gonna understand it

[sterile solar]

oh

what exactly dont you understand

[gusty atlas]

whatever the heck yall are saying

[sterile solar]

well there are several conversations going on

[gusty atlas]

I don't understand bow

[harsh leaf]

That's okay! Try using another weapon then....?

[sterile solar]

what about bow dont you understand

[gusty atlas]

apparently everything

[sterile solar]

when you select the weapon, on the top left, it tells you all the mechanics

[gusty atlas]

because ya'll keep confusing me trying to talk about it

[harsh leaf]

I asked earlier, but how much % is your god mode at?

[candid nimbus]

Well, lets fix this then, how does the bow work in your head?

[gusty atlas]

62 now

it fails

that's how it works

[candid nimbus]

What's your understanding of it

playstyle wise

[gusty atlas]

you try and shoot, everything gangs up no you and you die

[sterile solar]

you need to keep moving

dash strike

[gusty atlas]

dash strike doesn't ducking do anything

[harsh leaf]

he apparently cannot dash-attack

[sterile solar]

it does lol

[gusty atlas]

not with the bow

[sterile solar]

yes it does

it makes it charge faster

[gusty atlas]

not fast enough to not die

[candid nimbus]

Isn't dash attack for bow, slightly charging and then dashing? I actually don't know how it works tbh

[sterile solar]

then dont charge until youre out of danger

[harsh leaf]

You DO know that you dont need to actually charge it all the way, right?

[gusty atlas]

when the heck are you out ofd danger

[sterile solar]

Isn't dash attack for bow, slightly charging and then dashing? I actually don't know how it works tbh
no, is dashing and then charging

[gusty atlas]

You DO know that you dont need to actually charge it all the way, right?
@harsh leaf doesn't matter

[candid nimbus]

What, wow I've been doing it wrong the entire time lol

[sterile solar]

lmfao

[potent merlin]

Bow dash attack isn’t a charge

[gusty atlas]

it doesn't charge

[sterile solar]

shadow, it just seems like the bow isnt your weapon

[harsh leaf]

What, wow I've been doing it wrong the entire time lol
@candid nimbus I'm amazed you still use the bow at all lulz

[gusty atlas]

you have to time the flash right

[formal rover]

try using chiron; the bow aspect for people who can’t use bows (like me!)

[gusty atlas]

if you want the power

chiron is teh freaking worst

because you get no coverage

if you ever land an attack

[sterile solar]

distance is your coverage

[harsh leaf]

You shouldnt be using attack all that much with chiron anyways man

[sterile solar]

thats why is a ranged weapon

[gusty atlas]

distance dosen't work

[sterile solar]

how

[harsh leaf]

If you dont have TB into Chiron, just use Zag aspect

[dense laurel]

fitting with this channel name

[fiery peak]

Whats going onin here lol

[sterile solar]

how does distance not work

[tired grotto]

Has anyone else had a hard time getting the upgrade that gives you the list of boons to show up at the contractor

[candid nimbus]

Could try pos special, go cast build. Also @tired grotto have you unlocked other things?

I think I got codex upgrade after buying a few items from contractor, but hmmm

[gusty atlas]

@sterile solar nowehre to go?

[sterile solar]

how?

dude you have the whole room

[formal rover]

i don’t think the codex has anything to do with the contractor

[candid nimbus]

The boon upgrade does

[sterile solar]

the boon list in the codex you need to buy it yes

[unreal sphinx]

The best I can recommend is watching some streamers or youtubers play it. You'll get a better understanding of how the bow works.

[formal rover]

oh nvm lol

[tired grotto]

I've bought all the vase money/fountain/trove upgrades and a few cosmetics

[gusty atlas]

I've been watching Kam

[unreal sphinx]

It's hard to give advice without watching what you're doing.

[gusty atlas]

I cannot get it to work

[tired grotto]

And access to the admin hall

[candid nimbus]

Oh interesting... hmmm I wonder if there's more pre-reqs

[sterile solar]

then is simply not your weapon man

[candid nimbus]

I have heard some individuals do have harder time

[sterile solar]

try another weapon

[gusty atlas]

Been trying them all

[sterile solar]

none of them work?

[candid nimbus]

@tired grotto have you gotten to final boss? Only other thing I can think of

[gusty atlas]

got some wins. have 2 left. bow and fist.

[sterile solar]

isnt mandatory to get them

[gusty atlas]

probably hit a cieling

[harsh leaf]

You don't ACTUALLY need to beat the game with all weapons you know

[tired grotto]

Yeah I beat him once so far

[gusty atlas]

for ||prophecy||

[sterile solar]

thats not mandatory

[gusty atlas]

need blood

[candid nimbus]

Odd, how many runs since then flying?

[sterile solar]

keep beating it with the other weapons

[gusty atlas]

not doing great at that either

heh

[tired grotto]

Like 10+

[formal rover]

if you’re finding bows unfun, i’d suggest playing with some other weapons for a while

[harsh leaf]

If you cant beat the game, what you need is to get better at that, not TB

[tired grotto]

My first winning run was with bow

[sterile solar]

what is tb

[formal rover]

you’ll build up your fundamentals, and if you come back to bows later they’ll be easier

[candid nimbus]

Ah yeah I wonder if you're bugged, on my new save i got it on like run <10

[harsh leaf]

Getting frustrated with the bow is just counterproductive

[sterile solar]

queen what is tb

[harsh leaf]

Titan's Blood

[sterile solar]

oh

yeah titan blood isnt the essence of winning

[fiery peak]

Is it tho?

[candid nimbus]

Lemme check if my statement is true actually...

[sterile solar]

no

i edited it mb

[fiery peak]

haha

[tired grotto]

I guess it's not essential but it's just annoying not to have it

[sterile solar]

thats just the game

is clearly not impossible to not get

[gusty atlas]

very hard to get when you're not winning

[harsh leaf]

I got used to the game on base difficulty even after winning the game, and got some TB from styx when I was good enough before finally ||turning up the heat||

[sterile solar]

i have a spare 50 blood i dont need, wish i could give you yall

i used it get it all the time from styx

[candid nimbus]

Yeah that's weird flying, I have the codex upgrade in my contractor, only run 13 new save

[harsh leaf]

TB is not required to win the game, liminal. I'd say Mirror perks are more critical to success than TB

[sterile solar]

^

[tired grotto]

If u can get the right boons you can pretty much win without using your weapon at all

[fiery peak]

truuuue

[sterile solar]

sounds to me like your problem is the gameplay, not a really a weapon level issue

[fiery peak]

i kinda wanna do a run without attacking

[gusty atlas]

@harsh leaf I've maxed everything but High Confidnce, Fated Authority and Fated Persuasion

[candid nimbus]

The non-attack build is revenge only duo XD

[sterile solar]

dont use high confidence

[gusty atlas]

I',m not

that's why it's not maxed

[fiery peak]

I just wanna buff my dash and play a sonic soundtrack for 30 minutes

[tired grotto]

Ooh I wanna try high confidence +cursed slash

[sterile solar]

is definitely not the game, cause isnt a common issue, just keep trying, try to enjoy the game, dont get frustrated, if its not working, switch to another game for a bit

[candid nimbus]

Give it a few more runs @tired grotto , otherwise I think you may be bugged or there's some pre-req I'm missing?

[sterile solar]

take a break

[harsh leaf]

My recommendation is force Athena with keepsake, take her dash and call, and then try some cast build with Stygian Soul

[sterile solar]

send some pics of your builds

[fiery peak]

Athena dash gave me my first win ❤️

[sterile solar]

#h1-victory-boasting message

heres my first!

[harsh leaf]

I just came off a Stygian Soul crystal beam meme-ish run, but was surprised it took down EM4 almost by itself. Turns out having five crystals down at a time is a lot of damage

[sterile solar]

shadow, what keepsakes are you using

[fiery peak]

omg theres a dusa react

[gusty atlas]

depends on the run

[sterile solar]

which are your go to usually

i cant believe i was using fiery presence lmao

[gusty atlas]

been working on focusing on gods for first 3 and then swapping to acorn or tooth for ||styx|| if I survive that long

[sterile solar]

are you getting some good synergies?

[unreal sphinx]

I kind of like fiery presence to be honest. It's pretty good with some builds. Definitely falls of late game though.

[gusty atlas]

trying to? open question

[sterile solar]

well getting a good build is key to winning

[harsh leaf]

God keepsakes are best when you know exactly what you want

[unreal sphinx]

Shadow, where are you struggling the most? There's some biome specific advice as well.

[gusty atlas]

everywhere

[harsh leaf]

If you're just looking for stuff to beat the game once, you're better off with something like Cerberus' keepsake

[candid nimbus]

From the last video you sent, I figured you were doing fine until boss 3 and onward

[gusty atlas]

nope

that is not true

[harsh leaf]

(except for athena for her dash and call, as I said. always take her dash and call)

[sterile solar]

athena is a solid choice if youre dying a lot, same for aphro

lots of defenses

and they both have high dmg scaling

[candid nimbus]

For bow, maybe 4th aspect is more to your liking, I won with it thinking it was a rail

[gusty atlas]

If the run is going well, then yeah I can get through the first two bosses ok. Bow struggles w/ furies a lot.

I have only 1 fourth aspcet unlocked

have not spent any blood in bow to unlock 4th aspect

[sterile solar]

if youre struggling with the furies in general, you just need to practice some more

[harsh leaf]

Or, ya know, stop using bow

[sterile solar]

whats the point on getting blood to level up a weapon you dont even enjoy using

[candid nimbus]

try grinding out blood with your better weapons, the current bow playstyles might just not click

[gusty atlas]

I'm 90% sure I've got all the blood I'm going to w/o an actual skill up

surprised I have the blood I have

[candid nimbus]

Once you beat redacted once, you can do it again with the same weapon though

[gusty atlas]

I need to figure something new out

I am not actually getting better

[candid nimbus]

I think you've just hit a wall with the bow?

[gusty atlas]

I think I've hit a wall w/ the game

the bow is one path to more blood.

[sterile solar]

it might be it yes

[candid nimbus]

but you've cleared the game with other weapons though, can still work on those

[gusty atlas]

most obvious one

[unreal sphinx]

For bow with Tartarus, I recommend using the special to deal with projectiles. With melee enemies you can just run away and slowly whittle them down. The fast skulls have super low hp so a single shot is enough to kill them. If there's a lot then the special will stun them in a large range. The furies are mostly a case of practice so you know how to dodge the attacks, no silver bullet there.

For Asphodel, just focus on being out of the magma and dodging attacks. Remember that speed isn't necessary. The gorgon heads are probably one of the worst enemies so try to take them out fast. You have a lot of range so Hydra usually won't be a problem if you have a decent run vs the heads.

For Elysium your worst enemy is going to be the sword dudes since they have an annoying leap. The spearman's attack is faster then yours so just focus on getting enough distance to not get hit. The bowmen outrange you but are otherwise alright. Besides that you have the enemies who shoot exploding balls which can be broken by your projectiles. Flame wheels are annoying but are basically just the skulls from Tartarus, a good bow shot will kill them and the special will briefly stun them to buy you time to get away.

Styx is basically just don't get poisoned, and kill the laser shooting snakeheads.

[dense laurel]

^this whole post is very objective

[candid nimbus]

Although grinding the other weapons will be slower, I think there's a prophecy that you're tunnel visioning on?, it's progress

[harsh leaf]

Liminal has mentioned previously to be unable to dash attack or kite enemies at all

[gusty atlas]

poke: || Have to either make progress on the prophecy or make progress on heat to get more blood. I'm trying both, depending on where the thirst shows up||

[sterile solar]

yeah if you say distance isnt working as a safe spot, idk what to say

[dense laurel]

i mean u can use ur amrosia for blood since u get more anyways

[gusty atlas]

|| I'm talking about bow here because I'm less certain how to grind it out ||

uhh only if you're winning?

[harsh leaf]

poke: || Have to either make progress on the prophecy or make progress on heat to get more blood. I'm trying both, depending on where the thirst shows up||
@gusty atlas The way to make progress isnt immediately turning up the heat, it's getting good enough to do so. Do more runs with other weapons at zero heat

[sterile solar]

sadly, it sounds like the solution here

is getting better

you have the tools

just have to make it work

[gusty atlas]

I really think I don't

[sterile solar]

you have god mode at 60%

thats a lot helping you

[fiery peak]

@gusty atlas The way to make progress isnt immediately turning up the heat, it's getting good enough to do so. Do more runs with other weapons at zero heat
@harsh leaf

I did that to farm gems

I think its the only reason I got any better tbh

[candid nimbus]

I think you have what it takes, as I said I was impressed with you getting to boss 3 with like 150 hp. You just need to really hammer in the skills and knowledge for your better weapons before moving on

[harsh leaf]

Funnily enough, I did it to farm TB from the styx shop @fiery peak

[fiery peak]

I still dont have enough of that xD

[sterile solar]

300IQ

[gusty atlas]

I've never made it that far w/ enough gold. THe times I'e had enough gold, I died to bull.

[sterile solar]

thats how i have everything maxed and 50 spare blood

thanks to styx

[fiery peak]

Probably going for my last achievement tn, then putting it down for a bit to get back to work xD

[harsh leaf]

Well, I did it cause I was getting good enough to not need the gold in the first place

Which didnt happen the very next run after getting my first clear with a weapon!

[sterile solar]

styx gave me all the blood i needed

[gusty atlas]

at this point, the only way i've gotten more blood was turning gems into blood

[harsh leaf]

Another reason to do more runs at zero heat!

[fiery peak]

At that point do you need any more?

[sterile solar]

and dont forget the main reason, having fun, no point in playing high heat if youre not enjoying it

[fiery peak]

^ I NEED THE ACHIEVEMENT T_T

[sterile solar]

im playing in 24 heat now cause i think thats fun enough

[gusty atlas]

ah yes. THe vwery high number of 1.

[unreal sphinx]

Honestly, I'm of the camp that says just play some other weapon or game for fun. Come back a little later and that usually helps a bit. Megatilt is a real thing that happens to the best of us.

[sterile solar]

^^^

thats what ikeep saying

youre gonna get burnt out

[unreal sphinx]

Definitely had times throughout the beta where I just gave up on hades for weeks at a time.

[sterile solar]

take a break

switch weapons

even switch games

shadow, last resort for maxing out stuff

download a save file

[atomic pond]

Is it better to get Curse of Nausea or Low Tolerance for a Dio hangover build?
specifically for a chaos shield special attack build

[sterile solar]

both work just fine, but id say low tolerance for more stacks

[pulsar frigate]

i think low tolerance wins out in dps, using simple maffs

[formal rover]

low tolerance would be more poison damage, but i’d personally go for curse of nausea

[pulsar frigate]

ideally you get both

[sterile solar]

^^

thats a lot of dmg

[formal rover]

curse of agony is a pretty solid bet on chaos already, so that’s good synergy

[atomic pond]

i tried to go for both but was only able to get low tolerance

its hard rng

[formal rover]

but yeah if you can grab aphro cast/call as well, why not i guess

it happens

at least you got one

[sterile solar]

is the run over?

[formal rover]

wait the call wouldn’t work, they need to be weakened

[sterile solar]

you can still aim for the other

[atomic pond]

yeah the run was over
I got low tolerance ||at cerberus||

[formal rover]

you get the clear?

[sterile solar]

if you won it worked

[atomic pond]

I lost 😦 the dmg was ||too slow on 10 heat||
I think the Zeus/Poseidon shield is wayy better cause clears with that felt really easy

[sterile solar]

F

[pulsar frigate]

base: 6 (example base poison damage) x 2 (procs twice per second) x 4 (seconds) x 5 (stacks) = 240

low tolerance: 6 x 2 x 4 x 8 = 384

curse of nausea: 6 x 11 (procs eleven times over four seconds) x 5 = 330

both: 6 x 11 x 8 = 528

[atomic pond]

idk why but i ran 3 shield chaos runs with no start pick on boons
All 3 i got super good RNG and got Sea Storm, Second Wave, AND Splitting Bolt and it was super easy clears lol

[formal rover]

huh i’d have thought curse of nausea would be further behind

haha nice

[limber palm]

I cleared Hades for the first time

[formal rover]

nice!

[atomic pond]

congrats!

[limber palm]

I think it's been around 50 tries

[hard lichen]

not sure which ||aspect|| i should go for the exagryph, i tried out both and wasn't sure which i liked more

[pulsar frigate]

eris is currently dominating the speedrunning charts

hestia is also amazing, but needs investment of blood to get there

[hard lichen]

hrmmmm okay

i have 4 titan bloods right now think ill go with hestia for now actually

[tacit zodiac]

How do i use ||blood|| i have ||5||

[frosty basin]

unlock all weapons first iirc, not sure if you need to reach final boss first

[candid nimbus]

Yeah put keys down on all the weapons then do a run

to reset the house

[frosty basin]

Can Fated Persuasion give me legendaries/duos when I satisfy the requirement and reroll

[candid nimbus]

Yes

[frosty basin]

ok thanks

uh Bouldy gave me an Ambiguity Bonus what is that even

[candid nimbus]

bad rng, doesn't do anything

his belief is ambiguous

[sterile solar]

it means youre not worthy of bouldy's divine powers

[elder dragon]

man... playing on chiron bow then play other weapons feels like easy more to hard mode

someone please recommend me on another op aspect/weapon

[iron iris]

@elder dragon Eris rail (+Zeus attack)

Also hello

[sly vigil]

Hera Bow + Trippy Shot + Ice Wine

[proper orchid]

gonna try that next run

[frosty basin]

I've grown to like ||Rama|| a lot more than both ||Chiron and Hera||

Esp. running Aphro spec + Artemis attack and if you get Heart Rend, even better

(no such luck my last run)

[gusty sandal]

hey all! Ive done maybe 12 runs, and i got to theseus and died horribly. any recommendations on builds to help? Im up to the fists in weapons

ps i love using shield

[frosty basin]

hard to say since there's quite a lot of viable combos and with skill you can just beat the game without zero/poor synergy builds (because of bad luck etc)

how far are you down the mirror?

[gusty sandal]

ive been focusing on weapons, so i only bought the first upgrade so far

[proper orchid]

i had to use god mode to eventually get past theseus because im a scrub

[frosty basin]

you should get keys to unlock I think the 3rd category which gives Privileged Status, it's a massive damage boost if you can build around it

[gusty sandal]

oooh

[frosty basin]

How about your keepsakes

up to 40% when at least 2 debuff statuses are applied so yeah, pretty big

[gusty sandal]

charon, meg, cerberus, and achilles. all the first one (if you get multiple)

[frosty basin]

get god keepsakes

[gusty sandal]

i have the nector for it lol

[frosty basin]

gift them nectar so you can use their keepsakes to control which god's boons you want

[gusty sandal]

oooh

which god do you recommend?

[frosty basin]

Just gift nectar to all of them

[gusty sandal]

i kinda like Athena cus of her deflect

alright

[tacit zodiac]

||is blood limited? Like once i kill all the bosses with all weapons can i get any more?||

[frosty basin]

yes but actually no

once you beat the game once (i.e. killing the final boss) there will be.. options to get more blood, diamonds, ambrosia, the like

[tacit zodiac]

||ah ok. so spending all my blood on the shield probably wasnt that smart then||

[frosty basin]

I mean ||Chaos|| shield is really good, default isn't half bad either

I'm still trying to figure out how ||Zeus|| shield works but I need more blood for that

[tacit zodiac]

||yeah i agree, i just wish i was a bit more careful lol||

||wait there are different types? i upgraded i and it because zeus, i didnt know there was a choice?||

[frosty basin]

It's just their names

[trail oar]

Is the only way to progress In the story Is by just beating the game?

[frosty basin]

The main story pretty much I think, though the side stories probably aren't limited to winning

[tacit zodiac]

||wait i have beaten the first boss with every weapon. Is there any way to earn more blood without beating the game?||

[frosty basin]

You can visit the broker to trade for blood but it's still very expensive.. I think it's ambrosia for blood and you would really want to hold onto that ambrosia

I saw a 15 keys for a blood once as a special offer

[tacit zodiac]

ah ok

[slow agate]

Always keep 15 keys on hand. Or 150 gems, or some combination of the two in case the 15 keys for blood deal appears

[warm whale]

@tacit zodiac there is also the fated prophecy list. Some of the rewards are a big pile of blood

[tacit zodiac]

yeah i just got that, i got 10 keys from one

[wet schooner]

I accidentally entered the house after spending TB, is there a way to redo saves?

I tried give up but goddamn all 10 TB already saved

[gray haven]

The last fix in #h1-tech-fixes tells you how to find your saves. If you need help with that, you're best off asking in #h1-tech-support.

[tacit zodiac]

hmm. I got 1 ||ambrosia||. What can i use it for other than ||trading for blood||

[sterile solar]

are you new to the game?

or are you fairly advanced into the story already?

[tacit zodiac]

i just died to ||hades|| for the first time

@sterile solar

[somber tree]

I traded mine for more ||blood||. i dont think you have a use for ||ambrosia|| just yet

[wet schooner]

The last fix in #h1-tech-fixes tells you how to find your saves. If you need help with that, you're best off asking in #h1-tech-support.
@gray haven playing switch version 🤭

[gray haven]

Doubt there's anything you can do then, but ask in #h1-tech-support.

[gentle needle]

what should i be upgrading in mirror? im need to max deep pockets, priviledged status and olympian favor atm. atm i like running chaos shield with doom, and hera bow with dio cast mostly but depends. which of the 3 should i max first and should i use a key to reset the mirror?

after i get my chaos shield fully upgraded i might go for guan yu spear, zag fists or poseidon sword

[gray haven]

I'd go for Deep Pockets first out of those three.

[gentle needle]

i mean also should i get the altered version. the green version or stick to the og

[regal wagon]

stick to normal deep pockets for now

....i just realized this was more than an hour ago

[karmic slate]

Jesus, this is so broken.

[short lagoon]

@tacit zodiac You will need ambrosia more, the further you get into the game. Once you've beaten the game once, it will become a lot easier to get more blood.

[slender osprey]

oops, ive been turning ambrosia into blood

to upgrade my weapons

[sour river]

How should i even use the bow correctly? It's the hardest weapon to use for me, and i can't get past Tartarus with it

Mostly because of the powershot mechanic that i can time but the fact that you have to stay still for it just kills the weapon for me

[gray haven]

If you do a Dash-Strike, it charges a lot faster.

[quaint nebula]

dash strike all the time

I find I lose with the bow when I pick sniper shot and forget to move 🙂

[sour river]

I might just do a special build instead since it's way easier to use at least

I'm litearlly using it just for the remaining Titan Blood

[frosty basin]

@slender osprey

I actually usually don't dash-strike and am still fine

[slender osprey]

Hax

[frosty basin]

then again the highest ||heat|| I got with it is 3, 4 something

[slender osprey]

isnt ambrosia only to give to heart level 7 dudes

[frosty basin]

it's for upgrading ||companions||

[sour river]

Got the Blood

Now for the Chaos Shield

[frosty basin]

I'd say that's your biggest ambrosia sink, moreso than gifting them to people

and well ||romancing certain characters, if possible|| takes increasing amounts of ambrosia

there's also a theme for 15 ambrosia

[slender osprey]

companions?

[frosty basin]

you see the big locked slots beneath your keepsakes?

[slender osprey]

next to the door?

[frosty basin]

oh I mean your keepsake menu, not the cabinet

[slender osprey]

ohhhh

yeah i dont have any

[frosty basin]

[slender osprey]

do i have to beat ||hades|| to unlock it?

[frosty basin]

no

keep gifting people nectar

until you reach the locked heart

[slender osprey]

and then i give ambrosia?

[frosty basin]

ye

You can check the codex to see if they'll gift you anything in return after unlocking the last few hearts

[slender osprey]

Ive just been giving them to aphrodite, for i am a simp

[frosty basin]

anyway

[nova helm]

and well ||romancing certain characters, if possible|| takes increasing amounts of ambrosia
@frosty basin ||Only Dusa's amount increases. Than and Meg are more reasonable about it~||

[frosty basin]

really? I never knew

[slender osprey]

I wanna unlock companions now

[frosty basin]

I'm deliberately avoiding them since it feels weird to me

[nova helm]

I love them. ||Seeing Achilles and Patroclus fight together again, dropping boulders on people, summoning my partners against each other (and my dad), letting Skelly dance, and Dusa being adorable.||

[frosty basin]

Oh I mean ||romancing|| Than and Meg

[formal rover]

you can opt out of that if you want

[frosty basin]

one day

[sour river]

||From what i heard, you can romance all 3 without drawbacks||

[shut flame]

is there a way to know which boons youve used before from a god while on a run?

[formal rover]

if you’ve unlocked the fated list, a scroll symbol will appear next to any you haven’t taken yet

other than that, i don’t believe so

[sour river]

Should appear in the Codex after doing a House Contractor upgrade

[nova helm]

Oh I mean ||romancing|| Than and Meg
@frosty basin I really liked the way those paths were written. It's rare that a game gives me ||romantic stories I actually enjoy. But Supergiant gave me several - and not just ones in which the protagonist is directly involved. At least, not as one of the love interests. Zag's always involved one way or another. Practically a couples counsellor at this point|| xD

[formal rover]

oh really it’s in the codex as well? shows how much attention i’ve been paying lol

[pliant furnace]

is there a point to breaking vases and stuff?

[regal wagon]

if you have the contractor upgrade thing, some vases may have some money in them

a certain keepsake also allows you to sometimes find small heals in some vases

[harsh leaf]

is there a point to breaking vases and stuff?
@pliant furnace Only the shiny ones with gold in them, or if you're using Dusa's keepsake

[pliant furnace]

thank you. when do I get to start picking doors?

very new player here 😛

oh i see

[harsh leaf]

If you're THAT new, I recommend just playing the game for a few hours before trying to get answers here 😄

[sour kite]

The early discovery for this game is amazing

would highly recommend only asking for stuff if you're stumped or just looking to branch out from your comfort zone

Like in my case I tried to make every run an exclusive access run until I branched out :P

[wide harbor]

is it generally worth taking one of the god boons and guiding your builds early on?

i've got all the boons unlocked

[rustic crag]

if you have a build set in mind ,yea

[harsh leaf]

You mean... keepsakes? Cause yeah, taking god boons is generally a good thing 😛

[wide harbor]

sorry, yes. keepsakes. 🙂

[main surge]

https://prnt.sc/v6kg0v

hey guys what does non-zagreu mean?

[leaden whale]

It means not the default one

[main surge]

@leaden whale ty

[leaden whale]

Like ||nemesis, poseidon, chaos, eris, chiron||

Those are non-zagreus

[main surge]

thanks 🙂

[leaden whale]

no problem, good luck out there

[shut flame]

if i up ||the pact of punishment for a weapon i havent beaten any of the bosses with any heat on will get more rewards or do i have to incrementally beat and add?||

[leaden whale]

You will get the same amount
||Picking higher than your current heat level will still do the lowest heat level's bounties. Then it'll level up to next heat level. So let's say, if you do 10 runs at heat 10 it'll just like incrementally beating and adding||

[frosty basin]

What counts as 'two successive battles' with hidden boss for the prophecy?

I won twice against them but they were in separate runs and didn't count so I guess that wasn't it

Or I only need to speak to Hermes next we meet to finish it?

[leaden whale]

Not in the same run, two succesive runs no empty runs inbetween

[frosty basin]

Oh

oh

But then there's rng involved with getting to them too right

Is it even guaranteed at all to be able to fight hidden boss

[leaden whale]

No guarantees

Omg the health regen duo boon is amazing for the final boss

[frosty basin]

I see, thanks

This will take a lot longer than I thought then

[leaden whale]

Well good luck. At first I thought 2 wins in a row with breaks were fine. But nah

[candid nimbus]

What, you can have breaks inbetween, just can't lose

[leaden whale]

I've been effin lied to then

[candid nimbus]

Hmmm, unless my game is bugged? It seems far too punishing to not have breaks

Might need to win 3 times though

[broken dust]

how would i fill up the god bar?

[frosty basin]

Did you have to talk to Hermes to confirm the prophecy

Because I haven't

[candid nimbus]

God bar fills up by dealing or taking damage

unless otherwise specified by boons

[broken dust]

i've been doing that

but to no avail

[candid nimbus]

You need a Call

[broken dust]

i got poseidans call

[leaden whale]

You can use a single bar too

[broken dust]

at the start

yea but i've gotten nothing

when hitting and taking dmg

only used the bar once

at the start to test it

[candid nimbus]

It's fairly slow, longer fights it'll show

[broken dust]

i've been in 8 dungeons

lol

[frosty basin]

Certain boons fill up the gauge much quicker

[candid nimbus]

It resets every chamber also

[frosty basin]

Ah, it resets per chamber

[broken dust]

oh it resets?

[candid nimbus]

Yeah

[broken dust]

back to 0

[frosty basin]

If you don't use it in a fight then it's gone when you finish it

[broken dust]

ah ok gotcha

use while i can

[candid nimbus]

Now there are some items and boons that will have you start with a certain amount

[frosty basin]

Unless you have some boons like Athena's Proud Bearing iirc

[broken dust]

do you keep the calls?

god bar?

[frosty basin]

Starts you off with like 20% or so

[broken dust]

after dying?

[frosty basin]

If you have Defiance yes

If you actually die die then obviously no

[broken dust]

understood

thanks

[broken dust]

heya

so when i access left menu bar

to see my items

i toggle something about them

not sure what it is

something appears the top left of it

[leaden whale]

It locks their description card, for better reading

[broken dust]

gotcha

[leaden whale]

And reading multiple at once

[grand vale]

Hi I've beaten the game multiple times but I still don't have the codex have I done something wrong?

[broken dust]

that is not new players lol

[supple linden]

if you mean you don't have the codex at all, then you haven't been talking to people around the house

[grand vale]

I have been talking to people in the house

[supple linden]

the codex is a very very early conversation with achilles

[harsh leaf]

Do you have to buy the codex from the contractor? I forget

I know you need to buy the codex boon upgrade, but dont recall the actual codex

[leaden whale]

that one's on Achilles fella

[sterile solar]

Yeah the codex itself achilles gives it to you

[sage stump]

This is a bit of a noob question so figured I'd ask it here

If you go through a region into the next without changing your keepsake, is it considered as refreshed? As if you'd just chosen it

It's how I have always assumed it worked but never actually checked...

[candid nimbus]

I know the God ones don't once used

As the counter stays 0

[tacit zodiac]

how do you unlock ||hidden aspects||

[candid nimbus]

Check #h1-story-discussion pin

[shut flame]

dumb question but how do you block with the shield?

[sterile solar]

You hold attack button

[dreamy locust]

guys what does forging a bond with a god do?

my game just said I have a bond with athena now

[somber tree]

It gives a ||cute sticker on the keepsake||

[candid nimbus]

||Chibi|| on keepsake locker, but some bonds have more to them

[dreamy locust]

is that all?

[candid nimbus]

There can be prophecies too

[dreamy locust]

so there is not really a in game benefit?

other than prophecies?

[somber tree]

yeah its for the completionism people

[compact warren]

is for cute

you should do it

gives u the cute

[candid nimbus]

I think bonds have some relevance in the story also

[somber tree]

I got Charon's 1st on mine and he looks adorable

[dreamy locust]

what do you do with the little ||chibi|| thing?

[candid nimbus]

That's the sticker

[somber tree]

absolutely nothing, it just looks cute and adds extra text to the keepsake

[candid nimbus]

sorry if I was unclear

but highly recommend to build bonds

[wide harbor]

which of the 2/3 diamond work orders should I go for first? i feel like nectar, vintage or chtonic keys, fated are pretty nice.

[somber tree]

do you have the mirror talent to ||reroll||, choose keys. if not choose the vintage nectar

[wide harbor]

wait should I be rerolling my mirror? I have it fully keyed and most of the purple side maxxed out

[somber tree]

What I mean theres a talent called ||fated persuasion/fated authority|| its the last mirror talent.

[wide harbor]

oh yes. I have that.

[somber tree]

That's what the chtonic keys, fated are for. Would you rather have more rerolls or a miniPom in picking up nectar?

[wide harbor]

fair, definitely the former

[harsh leaf]

The boon rerolls are better than room rerolls, btw, so maybe switch those out

[wide harbor]

ah good to know! ok

can those rerolls potentially give the same boon at a different rarity?

[candid nimbus]

Yeah

I wouldn't totally rely on it for that, but it can definitely happen

[supple linden]

here is how reroll works

they tap into your mind and make the boon you didn't want an upgraded rarity. and then give you two other boons you didnt want

[wide harbor]

hahaha

that seems to be right so far.

[candid nimbus]

That's only if they're being nice

[supple linden]

joking aside

nothing hurts more then seeing the bone you didn't want upgraded to purple

[candid nimbus]

But 2+ rerolls for all commons is even greater pain

[supple linden]

the biggest burn I got

I was fishing for a specific duo boon

had all the requires, my core boons were filled

and I got a different Duo boon after spending 3 tokens on rerolls

[candid nimbus]

Was it exclusive access very last boon possible? that's the big sad

[supple linden]

Yep

I had two chances at styx, both gave nothing

had to go fight without my duo boon and I have never been more disappointed in my life

[harsh leaf]

Was it exclusive access very last boon possible? that's the big sad
@candid nimbus Funnily enough, I have ONLY seen Exclusive Access as my actual last boon pre-final boss. More than once

[candid nimbus]

Same, guess they didn't get the memo, I want the party early not later

[wide harbor]

lol

i'm having an entire run of just all commons 😐

[candid nimbus]

Happens, can still win though

[harsh leaf]

Prioritize Poms in that case, they really make a difference with common boons

[gilded mesa]

who should i try to max out with nectar first?

[sly vigil]

for gameplay purpose?

[gilded mesa]

i think so, the only other option would be for dialogue, right?

[harsh leaf]

Maxing out bonds doesnt really have gameplay effects, save for a few characters who give you some items beyond just their keepsakes

But you need a lot of Ambrosia for that, so if you're still new dont even worry about it

[sly vigil]

I would suggest Meg if you want a popular upgrade.

[gilded mesa]

so who would that be? ive given at least one nectar to every character

what is the upgrade?

[sly vigil]

but 4thqueen is right. you need a decent amount of resources

[harsh leaf]

Try asking in the spoiler channel

[gilded mesa]

actually there is one gift i dont have yet

alright

[gilded mesa]

is it worth resetting all of my darkness to spend it on higher level skills now that i have the entire mirror unlocked?

[frosty basin]

it's like 1 key so entirely up to you tbh

if you aren't feeling the alt talents, go for a reset to reclaim darkness on those

I'd do that too but I'm lazy

I miss when you can do that without keys before 1.0

[gilded mesa]

that was my thoughts as well, if its only a key i feel like it might be smart to reset and get some things like death defiance, and then upgrade things like my boon rarity chance, does that sound right?

[frosty basin]

Like I'd personally just reclaim darkness from Stubborn Defiance, Ruthless Reflex, Deep Pockets since I never use those after finishing the prophecy

sounds good

[gilded mesa]

wait so does it only reset specific ones, or all of them?

[frosty basin]

it's super cheap to reset and if you get the fated keys work order then you'd be getting a fair amount of keys per run

should be all of them?

[gilded mesa]

oh okay, also is there a faster way to get diamonds so that i can get the work orders more easily?

[frosty basin]

Have you beaten the game

[grand fulcrum]

Keep checking the shop, sometimes diamond is for sale on the cheap for the special

[gilded mesa]

not yet, ||one time i got hades down to less than a quarter of health in his second phase in the final battle though||

[frosty basin]

welp, before you beat the final boss you can get like 6 diamonds at max

without special offers from the broker

1 per infernal arms

[gilded mesa]

yeah, and there's some prophecies too, but those are pretty hard to achieve

[frosty basin]

Honestly I'd say Stubborn Defiance is the hardest to get for prophecy imo

having 3 lives globally instead of 1 per encounter is just too good

You'd be losing your DDs mainly in bossfights anyway

[gilded mesa]

i use the one for 3 lives globally, which prophecy are you referring too?

[frosty basin]

The one that ask you to escape with all mirror talents

including the alternate talents

[gilded mesa]

oh i see

[dense laurel]

at least u can get 1 more lives in the end with skellys tooth

[frosty basin]

I've had a lot more success with acorn, not that I really need it since I can usually beat final boss without losing more than 0-1 DDs.. usually

Lucky Tooth at least is a flat 100 health on revival instead of the usual 55, 60%?

[gilded mesa]

yeah i usually save the lucky tooth until ||styx||

[muted latch]

if you dont have trouble beating redacted with two lives or less it's not that tough

worse case scenario slap on god mode and get it done

[gilded mesa]

i didnt think of that, but i wanna try and beat redacted legit my first time

not that god mode isnt legit

[frosty basin]

You get used to him real fast after a few times dying

[gilded mesa]

yeah i bet

[gray haven]

DDs are 50%.

[frosty basin]

and then turn on ||EM4|| for maximum suffering to kickass guitar riffs in the background

ah thanks

that said if you get >=200 health before final boss then might as well pick something other than Lucky Tooth I guess

[timid lichen]

bruh

[frosty basin]

wait huh?

[gilded mesa]

lol, what was that

[frosty basin]

I was editing

[timid lichen]

apparently this is a baby's server

¯_(ツ)_/¯

anyways how the hell do i not lose 3 lives on satyrs

literally the most tilting thing in my life

[frosty basin]

Did a + triggered the bot or something, weird

If you have Athena boons, it makes your lives easier

oh it wasn't for me

[timid lichen]

i always use divine dash

i literally had divine dash and divine sword special and it didn't matter

[frosty basin]

Cultists have a very telegraphed animation+sound when they prepare to spit their poison darts

[timid lichen]

there's one room in particular

that always gets me

[gilded mesa]

i have to keep dashing constantly and try to use aoe or ranged attacks from cover

[timid lichen]

i've gotten pretty good at most of the rooms

[frosty basin]

You either keep your distance or time your dash

[gray haven]

The mods don't like seeing people evade the swear filter like that, just saying.

[timid lichen]

can i ask why there is a swear filter

[muted latch]

plus you can always use lucky tooth AND athena extra DD

[timid lichen]

like a slur filter makes sense but why swear words

[muted latch]

for the SD prophecy

[frosty basin]

Oh I.. forgot about those two somehow

[timid lichen]

you have to be 13 to use discord according to TOS anyways

[frosty basin]

Got it done anyway

never touching SD again

[timid lichen]

so it's not like there's kids here

[gilded mesa]

idk, some people just prefer not to hear it

[frosty basin]

2. Keep it clean. Some of our games are suitable for younger players. Please keep your language safe-for-work accordingly. Avoid derogatory or offensive language. Some language may be more offensive to others than it is to you; if you are called on your language, take the feedback.

[ivory ocean]

there's a swear filter because that's what the devs wanted

[gray haven]

Because that's what SGG decided.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frosty basin]

idm either way

[timid lichen]

oh devs made it that way

ok

anyways

[frosty basin]

It's not like you have to swear every sentence to live

[timid lichen]

i know i was just asking

cause it's not often you see that on a place like discord

[frosty basin]

I still get hit by poison darts sometime

[timid lichen]

the poison darts aren't the hard part

is there somewhere i can post images

there's one room in particular that always kills me

the one with the poison gas

that comes from the floor

[frosty basin]

Nearly all of them have poison traps

[gilded mesa]

really? poison is the most annoying thing for me in that area

[frosty basin]

uhh just avoid them

[gilded mesa]

ahh

[timid lichen]

is there an image channel

[frosty basin]

like seriously

[muted latch]

oh yeah just avoid them

[timid lichen]

wow i didn't think of that

thanks!!!!1!

[frosty basin]

it will emit poison but doesn't damage you immediately so you have a grace period to get out before you are poisoned

[muted latch]

worse thing in the styx rooms is multiple rats with a melee class

[timid lichen]

just spam dash on rats

[frosty basin]

Like what else can you do with that really

I heard ||Arthur's|| aura can negate traps/magma but not sure if that works on Styx poison traps as well

[gray haven]

There's no image channel. You can upload victory screens to #h1-victory-boasting or fan art to #fan-works. Otherwise, you can just upload to something like imgur and link that.

[timid lichen]

smh

i'll just dm you hax

[muted latch]

but you can always dash in, get a few hits and get out

[gilded mesa]

what is ||Arthur's|| aura?

[muted latch]

the poison does not instantly trigger

with i frames you have some leeway

[frosty basin]

hidden sword

[muted latch]

especially with divine dash's ridiculous extra i frame at the beginning and the end

[gray haven]

Divine Dash doesn't grant any i-frames.

[muted latch]

or just chip away their HP with casts

[gilded mesa]

hmm, any way you could tell me how to find it, or will it be obvious when i can?

[muted latch]

#h1-story-discussion

2nd pin

[gilded mesa]

cool thanks

[ivory ocean]

ok i have a trial btwn artemis and zeus, which is the easier battle

[sterile solar]

art

[ivory ocean]

thank u

woo i did it

[elder dragon]

to me... the hardest is aphro and most annoying is athena

[sterile solar]

athena is the easiest

[merry otter]

Imo the ranking is
Athena (low heat) Ares < Artemis < Zeus < Dionysus < Athena (high heat) < Poseidon < Demeter < Aphrodite

[elder dragon]

its annoying af tho ... trigger me so hard sometimes

[merry otter]

Athena is easy on lower heats but really hard on higher heats

[atomic pond]

i think the hardest are probably aphro, poseidon, and demeter
aphro/poseidon projectiles are so pesky when they just follow you around lol

[sterile solar]

demeter depends on the room

[dense laurel]

aphro is pretty easy to deflect sdym

[merry otter]

Wait you can deflect the seeking heart?

[dense laurel]

with divine dash yea

[merry otter]

How have I not known this

[ivory ocean]

nooo i have to do a miniboss, please i dont want to blow my dd on this

i have one left and i want to finally kill lernie

[sterile solar]

the barge of death is never late

[ivory ocean]

oh i NAILED it

[sterile solar]

if youre struggling with encounters, consider switching to stubborn defiance

[ivory ocean]

i will check that out after i die and get sent back to the house

[atomic pond]

I love stubborn defiance, never went back to DD
Being able to purposely die to get some health back if you're super low is really nice

[ivory ocean]

gonna fight lernie, full health, decent boons, one dd, wish me luck

[atomic pond]

good luck

[little jewel]

So what exactly are boons? I know they're upgrades and you can only use that gods boons, but I'm not sure how to get new ones

[sterile solar]

room rewards

everytime you clear a room, you will get a reward that you can see before you enter the room

[little jewel]

So its on the door?

[sterile solar]

the door tells you what reward will be on your next room

[little jewel]

Ok, thanks

[ivory ocean]

i did it!!!!!

[merry otter]

Ayy nice!

SD is busted imo, if you get Athena just waste an SD before getting a boon from her, you basically get 2 DDs and one SD if you get both the defiance boons

Feels really solid when you're out of DDs then ||Patty just gives them all back|| though

[dense laurel]

i always got my dds back from wells

[merry otter]

Wells are really good too, yeah

I personally only take the full DD replenish if I have one or no DDs left

[formal rover]

patty doesn’t give back DDs while you’re running SD

[merry otter]

If you get the two DDs from Athena then Touch of Styx Dark and Normal it's basically three full lives, one of which recharges every chamber

Hard-carried me through ||32 heat|| personally

[atomic pond]

wait you're supposed to lose the SD before getting the boon from Athena? I would always get it with a full SD and kept wondering why it didn't add any extra lives
Isn't that kind of bad design to make it add an extra SD only if you lose it first, instead of just adding it on top?

[formal rover]

yeah it’s kinda weird

[dense laurel]

bczo athena cant replenish something that never lost

[merry otter]

Pretty sure it's an exploit the devs didn't intend to happen, but left in

[formal rover]

it was actually unintentional on SGGs part, but then people discovered it and they left it in

yeah exactly

[atomic pond]

oh dang ok

[merry otter]

Honestly it should just be patched to say "Gain 1 defiance" and work regardless of whether or not you have an SD

[formal rover]

that would be a buff to an already good boon

but i really do understand your point

[dense laurel]

then theoretically u can refill 6 defiance with athena and chaos

when asking patty

[atomic pond]

this is only talking about the athena boon specifically though

[formal rover]

it’s really unclear how it works, particularly for new players, and given Last Stand and Deathless Stand are common enough T2 boons it should probably be made more clear how they work with SD in some way

[atomic pond]

just because the wording is kind of off
the main kinda annoying part is it doesn't tell you that you can lose an SD on purpose to gain an extra life

[frigid island]

hello quick question

[atomic pond]

so it feels like a secret exploit or bug

[frigid island]

how to unlock the aspect of ||lucifer ||?

[formal rover]

check the pins in #h1-story-discussion for secret weapon unlocks

[frigid island]

oh thank u

[dense laurel]

and thats a spoiler

tag it next time

[formal rover]

anyway; my ideal change would be that those boons aren’t offered unless you have an open DD slot

because honestly, nobody wants them when they’re at full DDs; they’re just kinda annoying then

[ivory ocean]

@frigid island please ||spoiler that aspect name||

[formal rover]

and it kinda seems like they might give you a 4th one even running DD unless you read closely

i think i actually took one of those boons thinking it might do just that, when i just started with the game

[frigid island]

sorry my bad :((

[ivory ocean]

nw

[little jewel]

What weapon would you recommend for new players?

[dense laurel]

shield probably

[high crest]

Bow felt easiest for me when I started. But everyone is different.

[trim thicket]

honestly it all depends on your playstyle i tell people to always use the weapon with darkest thirst (bonus darkness buff) to get a feel of each weapon

[little jewel]

Ty I'm really new to Hades

[pastel cipher]

play eveything to get a feel for what works for you

[trim thicket]

it took me several runs to find the weapon i like the best (fists)

[little jewel]

Yeah 😎

[pastel cipher]

shield tends to be the safest option, but I found twin fists clicked with me the most when I started

[dense laurel]

ye fists my fav, but shield is the safest for new players

[little jewel]

Ye, I'm not much of a 'safe' player, I quite like getting close to the enemy and being strong 💪

[trim thicket]

yea with shield tho u gotta play safe and slow

u wont get high DPS from it

so probs not to ur taste

[pastel cipher]

twin fists sound like they'd be your jam

[dense laurel]

uh then focus on making a full athena build i guess

[trim thicket]

u sound like a fists man i agee

oh god that sounds wrong but ok