h1-for-new-players

[woeful ivy]

It'll tell you in the choosin menu yeah

like when its in the boon menu

[flint eagle]

yup

[pastel crow]

Oh right im just really blind apparently haha

[woeful ivy]

I once got it first floor on my attack which was athena and common

That was a fun stab stick run

[flint eagle]

made 16 with shield and bow

[wise mica]

freezing vortex and hunting blades are exclusive right

[flint eagle]

still dont want to come close to another

[wise mica]

if I take one I can' ttake the other?

[woeful ivy]

???

[flint eagle]

yes

only 1

[wise mica]

unfortunate :/

[flint eagle]

HB is enough to win almost anything

[pastel crow]

Anyone else here seen Red Dwarf?

[flint eagle]

who?

[pastel crow]

Its a show haha ||Thesius|| reminds me of lister

[violet patrol]

What effect does Charm have on Bosses?

[pastel crow]

It basically stuns them

interrupts their attacks

Stops them from hitting you for a bit

[flint eagle]

there was a bug

charmed enemies did TONS OF DAMAGE to you

[pastel crow]

Fixed when?

[flint eagle]

idk i didnt play for almost a year

[pastel crow]

Oh haha

[main surge]

The bar charges up by dealing or taking damage
@hot yoke tyy 🙂 got it

[magic heart]

Is demeter worth going for?

[flint eagle]

@magic heart same as all gods

good scales

good status

have some benefits with Cast

and have some intresting stuff

her Ravenous Will boon works great with Hera and secret shield

Rare Crop can boost some important boons

[magic heart]

Whats secret shield

[flint eagle]

Nourished Soul grants more healing

4th aspect

[magic heart]

Ahh ok

[sterile solar]

John wtf lmfao

[visual vale]

man

i was fretting about having only done one clear in like... 30 runs

and then i do 2 clears in 1 night

download complete boys

[flint eagle]

@visual vale it'ok

[visual vale]

now i just have to figure out how to actualy win with sword, spear and fists

[flint eagle]

i mean as long as u improving

for spear i prefer Special builds

Charging skewer and exploding launcher

[visual vale]

i'm not a HUGE fan of spear spec

[flint eagle]

Aphro special

and just press Q and Q and Q

[visual vale]

but it does seem good with literally just what you recommended

i picked up achilles spear too so that'll be a help

[flint eagle]

@visual vale tbh it's only way i can make succesfull spear run

but i usually take secret aspect he can have exploding launcher(it's looks like he already have it)

So i take Charging special and special vs armor

helps a lot vs minibosses in styx

[visual vale]

yeah, i don't even have all of the t1 aspects yet

so the secret aspects are pretty far off

getting blood is KINDA hard because i don't feel comfortabple playing with heat yet since, y'know, i can't even clear with 3 of the 6 weapons

[flint eagle]

@visual vale low ||heat|| run are not much diff from usual runs

and also mirror perks and better trinkets make you stronger

[visual vale]

yeah, i've maxed out my mirror slots, so that's a help. really i shouldn't be posting in here at this point idk

[flint eagle]

why not lol

talking about Hades actually make me want to play it again

[visual vale]

i dunno man, at what point does someone stop being a new player

that's the real question 🤔

[violet patrol]

Does anyone know the probability on fated authority? I'm really trying to get nectars, but I can expend 6 fated authorities on a darkness and it just cycles through darkness, gems, and chthonic key. On one try it even gave me food as a reward, but still no nectar

[flint eagle]

@violet patrol 1st of all

dont waste rerolls on a blue laurels

u will make enough amount of nectar anyway

2nd afaik 1 door has limited variations of reward

[visual vale]

Isn't there a Mirror perk that gives you an increased chance of poms, hammers and nectar?

[violet patrol]

I'm running for nectars at this point, not trying to escape in every attempt

[flint eagle]

@visual vale yes

no

[violet patrol]

No, nectar is a meta progression currency so it's blue. The mirror gives increased chance for things that directly benefit a run

[flint eagle]

not nectar

[visual vale]

is it coins hammer and poms?

[flint eagle]

Nextar darkness gems and keys are blue

[violet patrol]

Coins hammer poms and boons

[flint eagle]

gods hammers poms coins and HP are golden

[violet patrol]

Oh yeah hearts too

So not every blue door can give nectars?

[flint eagle]

looks like

i may be wrong but

well i tried it with golden one of my run

and it was same 3 or 4 rewards

i wasted 7 rerols

it was Dem or Athena or someone else

[sterile solar]

they do

nectar just have a rare chance it seems

compared to the rest

[violet patrol]

I usually go for it when there are two blue rewards, for example I just was faced with a key and darkness, rerolled the darkness twice and got first gems, then nectar. That seems to work in tartarus. It looks like you can't reroll to a nectar in chaos, which is weird because I know I've seen it as a reward before. Trying a similar trick as above it landed on food (health regen) as a reward, but never showed nectar

[sand bridge]

if there are 3 blue laurel exits in a room (key, gems and darkness), rolling one of the doors will guarantee you get a nectar.

[violet patrol]

Unless I'm in chaos, apparently

[sand bridge]

there can't be multiple exits with the same reward.

[celest pebble]

try it again in a 3x exit gate chaos room

[flint eagle]

@celest pebble ||Erebus|| always have 3

[violet patrol]

Yeah, there were three, key, gems, and darkness I rerolled the gems three times, it swapped to food and back to gems, and back to food. I then tried darkness, and it swapped to gems then food.

[sand bridge]

lolwut, I've never seen food as a reward

[flint eagle]

easy or yes? https://i.imgur.com/6CoDod7.png

[celest pebble]

how hard is it to force a boonless run?

[flint eagle]

not rly

i just spend 3-4 rerols

and in 3 times i was forced to have a boon

but i sold it asap

[visual vale]

i'm guessing you'd need hella fated and to max out the % chance of non-god rooms on the mirror

[muted latch]

if you have maxed fate authority just reroll boon doors to poms

[visual vale]

yeah and you could sell your boons too so that works

[muted latch]

true

[visual vale]

can you still take uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[flint eagle]

i forgot Hermes is a god tbh and took his boon

[visual vale]

stuff like poseidon drops and hermes boons on a boonless run if you're using the trinket?

[muted latch]

most multi door rooms should have at least one non boon option

[flint eagle]

@muted latch looks like not always(

[muted latch]

yeah which is why "most"

I've seen triple boon doors in asphodel

[sand bridge]

sometimes there are only exits that lead into miniboss rooms, miniboss rooms always have boons (except for Styx)

[flint eagle]

@muted latch well as long as u have no any boon there wont be Pom door

[sand bridge]

and they can only be rerolled into other boons

[flint eagle]

so only hp or coin avaliable

[violet patrol]

Ooh maybe the reason I couldn't force a nectar spawn is because it was before I had gotten any boons, and with the upgrade it applies one pom power

[flint eagle]

@violet patrol nope

[violet patrol]

I was running them against the first door (after getting hammer), as well as in a chaos gate from the second room (also without boons)

[marsh ether]

You can totally get a pom reward without any boons

[flint eagle]

Nectar are nectar

[marsh ether]

It gives you coin instead

[flint eagle]

@marsh ether i hadnt any pom till my run

[violet patrol]

Huh, maybe just really bad rng then.

[marsh ether]

I picked up a pom when I only had a hammer upgrade so it's possible

[flint eagle]

well unlucky

[marsh ether]

You know it might have been that I only had strong drink or something and I didn't have anything to upgrade

So you may be right

[flint eagle]

damn

2 doors

i wasted all my rerols

and both doors contains gods

lol

so they

buffed fiery presence

and lowered the numbers

buff which look like nerf

[celest pebble]

whats fiery presence?

[flint eagle]

1st alternative mirror

more dmg when u hit enemy for the 1st time

[violet patrol]

I always assumed backstab was better, since it applies during the whole duration of a fight. Undamaged does requires you to use a powerful move as your opener, or else it's wasted

[flint eagle]

@violet patrol i mean why do u need 50% vs undamaged

when u can hit them with Bstone

and have same 50 vs them

[pastel cipher]

It's 75% vs undamaged now

[flint eagle]

now it's 75

but still not cool

but i try it for one more bonless run

[pastel cipher]

It's great for things like ||Hestia and Arthur||

Zag bow to an extent too

[flint eagle]

@pastel cipher yup i use Hestia rn

@pastel cipher or any stuff with high damage like Spear special build||(esp GY)|| or rail special build

[lyric forge]

With ||Arthur|| I'd still rather have the backstab damage because it works more than once.

[violet patrol]

I don't need 50% vs undamaged, which is why I take 50% on backstab. I'm just questioning the value of the fiery presence

[flint eagle]

@lyric forge u dont need another one with it

[lyric forge]

Uh, you need to show me how to one-shot bosses or armored enemies then!

[flint eagle]

@lyric forge dude it was just a joke

i thought it would be funny

i thought

whatever

sorry

[lyric forge]

No worries man, I know what you meant.

[visual vale]

like i said earlier, the only way I can see firey presence being good is if you're using hermes trinket

because it'll let you clear rooms faster if you have extra damage on that first hit

[flint eagle]

well disagree

1 strong hit doesnt mean fast clear

2 hit in the back are still stronger

[pastel cipher]

Depends on the weapon and ||aspect||

[flint eagle]

@pastel cipher well in general

2 backstabs stronger

and FP doesnt grant you fast clear

[visual vale]

could actually be good on the bow now that I think about it

if you're going for big damage instead of rapid fire

perfect shot with buffs and that 75% would be pretty huge

but then it becomes useless against bosses so ehg

[flint eagle]

there are some other options we mentioned before

but for bow it's better be explosive shot

you know what i hate

%

i look at my 93/137 hp and ask myseld

is my High Confidence works?

[white dew]

For the prophecy involving all the mirror upgrades, do you have to ||beat Hades or just make it to the surface||?

[flint eagle]

@white dew 1st

u have to escape

[white dew]

darn

[flint eagle]

u can make some l||ow heat ||runs with that

also u can combine it with ||pact prophecy||

[white dew]

Just finished the ||pact prophecy|| so no need

[flint eagle]

sad

i have only 6-7 left

[white dew]

The one that's gonna be hardest is for sure ||reaching the surface with the Guan Yu aspect||

It's just... so bad

[flint eagle]

@white dew just go full special

[formal rover]

||guan yu ||is actually really strong, just hard to get the hang of

try focusing on the special

[white dew]

spoiler that

[pastel cipher]

Ty :3

[flint eagle]

strong but slow and punish you harder for reckless moves

ha

looks like Fairy presence doesnt work if u face ||asterius|| once again in last fight

[muted latch]

well yeah he is not full HP

[white dew]

I'm trying to do too many of the bad mirror upgrades at once I think

I keep dying to Meg and Lernie

just because the health isn't there

[flint eagle]

@white dew make it one per run

0 ||heat|| with dark thirst

[white dew]

I think ||heat|| is a spoiler in here

[flint eagle]

well yes mb

[muted latch]

just to confirm, each shot from chiron special on a single target counts as one "application" for doom, chill and hangover right

[normal flax]

^Yup! That's why I always go for demeter or dionysus if I can with it

[flint eagle]

@muted latch yes

[muted latch]

so it's particularly strong for Dire Misfortune, Low Tolerance and Arctic Blast

[flint eagle]

@muted latch yup

[normal flax]

Not sure if doom gets stronger w lots of 'procs', unless you have the ares boon that specifically increases per stack of doom

[muted latch]

yeah dire misfortune does that

10-16 more damage per stack

[normal flax]

oh oops lol, gotcha

[flint eagle]

@muted latch also u may add longer doom for that to proc more doom stack

[muted latch]

true

[flint eagle]

i tried it

but dio still better for me

[muted latch]

with a max chiron and relentless volley you can get over 150 bonus damage

[flint eagle]

cus it does need much boons

Aphro attack

Dio special

[muted latch]

yeah doom requires a lot of setup

[flint eagle]

Ares revenge

[muted latch]

dio doesnt

[flint eagle]

and 2 duos

mb longer weak

but not neccesary

even ares stuff not neccesary

just 3 boons and poms

also Poison not losing much efficiency while being lvlud with poms

[muted latch]

I personally prefer jolted over doom

but yeah dots are always good

[flint eagle]

@icy raptor no

u neet to beat ||heat|| 5 5 times to gain all bounties

[pastel cipher]

||heat|| is spoilers in this as a fyi @icy raptor so uhh spoiler tags please

[flint eagle]

or u can go slowly rasing

[pastel cipher]

Either is valid

[icy raptor]

Oop, my bad on spoilers, I'll edit

[flint eagle]

achievemt for max keepsakes is meh

[warped wagon]

Hello I'm new here, I'm playing the EGS version of Hades and I'm running into a controller issue, for some reason the game doesn't like my ps4 controller and I'm sure that is not a problem on the steam version. Is there anything I can do about that? The FAQ only meantions the other versions.

[flint eagle]

@warped wagon try ask #h1-tech-support

[warped wagon]

thank you

[indigo sedge]

Does the spear dashing charge attack count as a dash attack?

[sick mason]

I don't think it does

but don't quote me on that

[gray haven]

No, it doesn't.

[marble swallow]

so whats hell mode or god mode or whatever it is? I'm quite invested in the game at this point and was wondering whether or not it'd be worth swapping to that difficulty mode or if I should finish the game first

[dense laurel]

the god mode is free dr for ur runs, u can turn it on and off any time in option

[visual vale]

I think hell mode gives you the ||pact of punishment|| from the beginning, and a minimum ||heat level|| that you HAVE to play at

[marble swallow]

oh, I must have misread the starting option, thought it was something you had to toggle on per save file, didn't realise you could just turn it on or off at any time.

neat

oh, hell mode is indeed that

[quaint nebula]

I beat the final boss for the first time today. Then immediately beat him again. 🙂

[dense laurel]

congrats, u getting the hang of this

[quaint nebula]

The second was such a meme run. I switched my attack boon like 3 times.

"Sorry Poseidon" "Sorry Zeus" "Sorry Ares"

[hot yoke]

Nice dood

@visual vale those two are spoilers
Please tag

Only because you're forced too

[visual vale]

i mean, they're not really spoilers, it tells you what hell mode does in the main menu

[hot yoke]

I'm not talking about hell mode
I mean the other to things

In new player channel everything post styx is considered spoilerish

[quaint nebula]

Dark Thirst keeps going to the shield for me

[hot yoke]

I'd be delighted

[leaden whale]

how do you unlock the aspect of ??? on the weapons. the last unlock with titan blood

[hot yoke]

There's a pinned comment in #h1-story-discussion

It will tell you everything

[quaint nebula]

I love Dusa so much

Her keepsake is amazing

Oh not that

[hot yoke]

What's hers again?

[quaint nebula]

Keepsake

[hot yoke]

That's why I deleted lol

[quaint nebula]

||Feather Duster = Heal from pots.||

[hot yoke]

Oooh

Yeah it's neat if you're running low

But I'm always obsessed with forcing gods

[quaint nebula]

Forcing gods is great too

I'm planning on using the other keepsakes before I use the olympian ones

What weapon is the bracer best on?

[hot yoke]

Nemesis is a good option
Since it's free crit

So it multiples the added damage

Or maybe eris since it gives you universal damage buff
But I'm theorizing here

[quaint nebula]

You take less damage

[hot yoke]

Bruh

I confused it with sysiphus

I'm so potatoes

[quaint nebula]

I want to try it with spear

and hopefully get poseidon again

[hot yoke]

I'd assume range weapons work with it

Since you're not in between enemies and have more leeway to control your positioning

[quaint nebula]

I'm usually facing enemies with spear

[hot yoke]

With most weapons lol

I'm just saying with ranged weapons you'll be in a crowd way less which is where you eat stray hits most of the fime

[quaint nebula]

most of my hits are from bosses

or little guys attacking through my attack

[hot yoke]

Theseus tends to hit me in the back of he hits me

[quaint nebula]

I hate Theseus

He ate like 2 of my DDs

I managed to find 2 juices though

[hot yoke]

Bless the jooz

He's just annoying because of asterius :(

[muted latch]

always fight asterius behind a pillar

the bull itself is very predictable

[hot yoke]

Bruh I don't think I need tips

But appreciate the sentiment

[quaint nebula]

Theseus had ||Demeter|| call and nuked the whole map

[hot yoke]

Vanilla ice

Just don't get hit kappa

[quaint nebula]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/765928555745902662/765928575185453056/unknown.png?width=1204&height=677 ||

😄

[hot yoke]

Well you could stand in

Uh

Yeah

[quaint nebula]

Do you like my charon items?

jerky only

+100% attack

and level 4 doom

that had double damage from perk

[hot yoke]

Just stack kappa

Beef jerky for lyfe

[cosmic willow]

i'm guessing if u take lambert plume and clear stuff but then take it off in next zone u dont get bonuses anymore?

[hot yoke]

Only while equipped yes

[nova vigil]

Dusa is so gr8

[lucid summit]

How do I use Fated Persuasion

[hot yoke]

||there's a button at the bottom of the boons/wells you press if you have reroll stones||

[sterile solar]

^

[lucid summit]

Thanks:)

[elder dragon]

can i get more titan blood after the first 6?

and how 😦

[muted latch]

play more, you'll get to know how

||beat the game once||

[daring oracle]

@elder dragon you get blood from 1st and 4th boss, and you unlock the ability to get more after you Clear a round

[elder dragon]

i will try i guess... here i go dying again

[vapid isle]

And you can usually buy them on the final section. 1,200 gold

[daring oracle]

Or a lot of trading

1000 gems, 100 keys, or 10 nectars

They become quite easy to get by mid game

[elder dragon]

oh yea... i have that option

[nova vigil]

there's also some prophecies that give titan blood

[sterile solar]

Also broker

Also ||rare fish from greece|| gives you blood

[daring oracle]

But that requires him to win against 4th boss which was already mentioned 😛

[hot yoke]

There can be a special broker deal for 15 keys u think
Wtf 100?

Or are you talking about the conversion for the regular trades?

[daring oracle]

Yup

[hot yoke]

Then or is the wrong word imo

Implies you have a choice between

You more or less trade "up" don't you?

I mean depends on where you start

[daring oracle]

10 gems = 1 key
5 keys = nectar
10 nectar = 1 diamond
2 diamond = 1 ambrosia
1 ambrosia = 1 blood

If you start at keys, you don’t need 1000 gems

If you start at nectar, you don’t need 100 keys

[hot yoke]

Fair I got you

[daring oracle]

I supposed I could have listed the amount of gems/keys/nectar and ended with “ or some combination thereof”

[elder dragon]

thats gotta be some of the worse trade deal in history

[daring oracle]

That’s the defaults

[hot yoke]

I'm just potatoes brain again

In the end you don't need most of your resources anymore

They become cosmetic upgrades

[daring oracle]

@elder dragon the unique deals are only good if you trade a common resource for a rare resource

Otherwise you’re getting ripped off

[hot yoke]

Only good unique deal is 15 keys for 1 titan blood
Off the top

But that one is very nicr

[daring oracle]

I usually do the math for how much the trading up would cost

And if it’s less than trading up would cost, it’s a good deal

[elder dragon]

if i quit the game in middle of a run... does it reset?

[hot yoke]

Nope

You can continue the run

You have to give up for reset

[lavish gazelle]

As long as you don't quit during an encounter after taking damage

There might be some other things that trigger the anti-savescumming but that's the main one

[elder dragon]

going for full chaos shield was a mistake 😦

[gritty bolt]

Also: Choosing a boon will make it so you can't savescum

[elder dragon]

used 1 titan blood for chiron bow was great

[hot yoke]

Full chaos shield is awesome
Chiron need full too

You need to play chaos like a shotgun

[gritty bolt]

What about full zeus shield?

[hot yoke]

Like a boomerang

Thras long as you dash through it the I frames prevent you from catching it

So you can kite it

You can still attack and bull rush after throwing

[spiral echo]

waaait

nvm

[wintry mulch]

for fishing point spawns, does it matter if fishing points have spawned in previous rooms? or only if you've used any previous ones? (can't get fishing point to spawn in ||chaos realm|| for the life of me 😛

[spiral echo]

going for full chaos shield was a mistake 😦
wait how

for fishing point spawns, does it matter if fishing points have spawned in previous rooms? or only if you've used any previous ones? (can't get fishing point to spawn in ||chaos realm|| for the life of me 😛
lol same

[elder dragon]

i didnt like bull rush playstyle

[spiral echo]

ive literally been too focused in a run that i forget i bought the fishing rod

ohh

what do you use

mainly

like weapon

[elder dragon]

played everything... liked my run mostly on sword and bow

[wintry mulch]

@spiral echo alright so another rng fest it is. thanks 😛

[spiral echo]

ohh

[daring oracle]

for fishing point spawns, does it matter if fishing points have spawned in previous rooms? or only if you’ve used any previous ones? (can’t get fishing point to spawn in ||chaos realm|| for the life of me 😛
@wintry mulch fishing spawns have a required number of rooms since your last fishing spot

[elder dragon]

could just be rng boons on those runs were good

[daring oracle]

UNLESS you buy the item at the well

[spiral echo]

chiron bow without any upgrades.

totally not me

[wintry mulch]

got it. thanks for the information

[spiral echo]

almost gonna finish ||my first heat run i think||

[daring oracle]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Fishing

[elder dragon]

recommended boons for chaos shield?... i think imma go back to it until i beat the game once

[spiral echo]

uh

[daring oracle]

For most areas, it’s 10 rooms. ||surface|| is 2 rooms

[spiral echo]

lightning for special maybe

idrk

i just take whatever boons

but i think zeus special works pretty well

like get away from them the bull rush(dont charge it all the way up if youre close)

[wintry mulch]

ah ok. so rare then. thanks i'll think about how to farm then

[muted latch]

zeus special, athena dash

for attack anything goes, aphro, dio, all works

get pressure point from artemis if you can

[daring oracle]

The only real way to guarantee is if you buy the well item before entering the realm of chaos.

Or you’ll have better odds if you DONT have a fishing spot yet in the first area of the map before you go to a chaos portal

And then you still only have a 7% chance, which is frustrating to say the least

[elder dragon]

cheers

[daring oracle]

Poseidon has a legendary boon to increase the odds

[viscid ocean]

Alright, how do all the damage ups actually work together?

do they add up as one big percentage increase? or are they added one after another?

[spiral echo]

o a good question

i think theyre added up

[viscid ocean]

so lets say I have distant memory

if I get urge to kill and a aphro attack, thats a 30%, a 15%, and a 69%

[pulsar frigate]

most damage increases are additive

[viscid ocean]

they would add up to 124%

[pulsar frigate]

https://hades.gamepedia.com/Damage_Calculation

[hot yoke]

Critical hits apply a multiplier. By default, it's 3.
Clean Kill is additive with the crit multiplier, e.g. +22% = a 3.22 factor.
Heart Rend is a multiplier on the crit coefficient, so 4.5 by default, or 4.83 with the 22% Clean Kill example.
Most things are additive.
Critical hits apply a multiplier. By default, it's 3.
Hammer boons that affect charging functions are modifiers of base damage. Like all other forms of base damage adjustment, that makes them effectively multiplicative.
Things that say "bonus damage," of course, mean exactly that: They deal their own damage as an on-hit effect, so they don't scale with anything. Hoarding Slash is currently the only example, so it's way weak.
Additional attacks, such as Support Fire, Zeus boon bolts, or Ares doom effects, scale with effects that modify any kind of damage (like some keepsakes, Blood Frenzy, and Billowing Strength), not with things that affect their sources. A Chaos Flourish boon, for example, would affect your special's base damage, not the doom from Curse of Pain.

[spiral echo]

oop

[viscid ocean]

glad to know my thoughts on how hammers and bonus damage effects work like that.

[hot yoke]

Info dump lol

[viscid ocean]

I thank you for it

[hot yoke]

Np

[viscid ocean]

and I assume it'd work the same way with debuff damages

[hot yoke]

Debuff?

[viscid ocean]

like exagrif special hammer debuff for 20% extra damage when targeted and aphro weakness makes enemies take more dmg boon

[hot yoke]

Eris aspect should apply after the rest

In the end it's still additive

[silent trail]

Is there any build where y'all want something that isn't Athena dash? It's just so powerful it's hard to turn away but I'm also a bit bored of it haha

[hot yoke]

You can take it on anything

You don't have to take it on a anything

Athena dash is optimal

But that doesn't mean you're for ed to take it

Maybe try poseidon dash

Or Dyonisus dash on a hangover build

[cosmic willow]

does buying hermes from shop mean it counts as one of the two times i cansee him?

[nova vigil]

so I just beat Hades last night for the first time so my question is ||do I need to do heat runs to progress the plot or can I progress the plot without adding heat?||

[stiff mural]

the latter

you will only get darkness beating bosses on the same heat you already beat with that weapon though, so increasing heat is a good way to farm resources

but it's not necessary

[nova vigil]

also @silent trail Artemis Dash Attack % increase is very helpful for the spear build in a serrated edge dash attack thing. It combos very well with Zeus Attack or Athena Attack. The Artemis Dash Attack boon can increase % from 60 to 80 most times which since your dash attack is hitting 3 times is a significant amount of dps

thanks Vorpal

[night geode]

You might miss out on progressing some of the side stories though since diamonds are required for some of them

[nova vigil]

gotcha thank you guys!

I have thus far only used the spear so I wanted to try the other weapons out but I don't wanna raise the heat since I've literally never used the other weapons

[stiff mural]

no harm in trying things out, at worst you'll just die

maybe you'll learn shield, bow or some cast build feels like an easy mode to you

and blitz towards 20 heat on it

[gilded mesa]

is there anything specifically i should spend titans blood on?

[nova vigil]

I think from what I've heard it depends on your weapon preference

[tawny schooner]

It's not a terribly scarce resource. You'll unlock everything eventually if you keep at it

[gilded mesa]

that makes sense, i just dont have a specific preference so im having a hard time deciding what to use it on

[night geode]

If you want to give an aspect a test run without fully committing the blood, you can revert to before you unlocked it by hitting "give up" in the menu during the run

As long as you didn't go back into the Hall of Hades after unlocking it since that's when progress is saved

[nova vigil]

for spear I've been using aspect of Zagreus bc it seems like it's the most versatile which lets u use any kind of build but I haven't used anything except for the spear 😂 I'm gonna try the gun tonight when I have free time

catfishes advice seems solid

[night geode]

But yeah, also eventually that won't really be a huge issue at a certain point

I'd say just go with your gut, unlock what sounds cool on your favorite weapon

[gilded mesa]

cool, thanks for the advice everyone. i pretty much like all the weapons equally, but ill just do what you guys said, i almost beat the game for the first time yesterday so i think if i can just do a bit more ill have it down

[hot yoke]

If you want some apsects that are generally good on unlock without leveling you can try hera on bow, nemesis and poseidon on sword
Though hera and poseidon are both cast build weapons

Most other require at least some leveling

4th aspect for gun is also decent without level up but it itself requires unlocks to be unkocked

[gilded mesa]

okay, im not familiar with any builds either honestly, i should probably look into that

[hot yoke]

You can build mostly around the attack or special of a weapon, cast build or certain duos

F.e. if you take poseidon sword you want a cast that lodges
Then you decide on a cast and look at what boons work with it

[gilded mesa]

so its not specific lists its more just abilities that you think would go good together?

[hot yoke]

There is definitely specific "meta" builds
But you can also make it a bit more freeform

[gilded mesa]

cool, ive been doing that, i guess i just need to get more familiar with some of them

also i think i just unlocked duos my last run

[hot yoke]

You don't need to unlock duos

Duos and legendaries show up if you meet their prerequisites

[gilded mesa]

oh okay

[hot yoke]

You can see them in the codex by going to a god and pressing - on switch

Idk what it is on pc

But there's a prompt in the codex

You need the extended codex though

[gilded mesa]

i play on pc but i use a controller, i think i know what you mean though

okay yeah i just bought that

[hot yoke]

That's useful for planning out builds

But if you need tippers on builds just ask in the discord

Also I see you're in the academy to

[gilded mesa]

okay cool, ive found some pretty cool combos between boons and stuff with certain weapons

[gray haven]

does buying hermes from shop mean it counts as one of the two times i cansee him?
@cosmic willow yes. But you can see him a third time in the final shop.

[hot yoke]

Nice
Hope you'll have fun and success trying them out

[gray haven]

There's a build guide pinned in this channel aimed at new players.

[hot yoke]

I always forget lol

[gray haven]

I don't because I wrote it.

[hot yoke]

From the goddess herself

[gilded mesa]

ill look into that, thanks

[hot yoke]

Praise be

[gray haven]

O~hohohohoho!

[hot yoke]

It gives you a good outline

[gray haven]

My guide went up from 3 stars to 4 stars. Hurray.

[hot yoke]

Review boosting from the discord

3 stars? Weird

[gray haven]

41 ratings now. Can't go higher without more ratings, I think.

Rating system is kinda weird on Steam lol.

[hot yoke]

How does it function different from a normal star rating system?

[gray haven]

I think you need like n amount of ratings to get more than 3 stars even if all the votes are 5 stars lol. And then again to get more than 4 stars. Something odd like that.

That's just what I've read online, anyway.

[gilded mesa]

ill make sure to try out some things from the guide, one thing that ive found to be pretty overpowered when using exagryph is if you can get lightning strike from Zeus and the upgrade from Daedalus that gives more ammo and makes you shoot faster

[wintry mulch]

is ||fate's anvil|| rng to spawn? and if so, does anyone know spawn rate?

[ruby fossil]

i have a question, i just unlocked all the weapons although i have yet found a way to use titans blood

[oak geyser]

Do one more run and you'll find out how to use it

[ruby fossil]

oh

ive started the run and so far nothing, is it only when ive finished it?

[oak geyser]

yes

[ruby fossil]

or am i missing a weapon

[oak geyser]

the house of hades only resets when you die

[ruby fossil]

alr

also https://prnt.sc/uzcc4b

which is the best option, for gauntlets

[candid nimbus]

Down to personal preference, Explosive Upper is pretty good for damage. Colossus Knuckle if you want to be tankier

[lean umbra]

Depends what you're going fo

[candid nimbus]

Flying cutter is good for damage, slower though

[oak geyser]

never used any of those but Colosssus Knuckle seems pretty good

[ruby fossil]

ill go for explosive

since i always seem to lack damage

[harsh leaf]

Mind you, that doesnt work for the regular special, only the dashing special

[gray haven]

Explosive Upper is easily the best option there.

Colossus Knuckle is nice, though.

[median shadow]

Hello new member here i have a question is there any tier list of weapon or buffs that already have been mentioned before?

[candid nimbus]

Don't think there is a tier list, everything is clearable

There are some guides floating around with some tips though.... idk where those are

[median shadow]

Oh ok

Yeah seems pretty hard to find those but ok ty

[candid nimbus]

The pin has guide(s) though

Might help

[ruby fossil]

ive speced into magnetised gauntlets

theyre very fun

ive just got a hammer upgrade which works really well wth my new gauntlets

quake cutter

[sterile solar]

All weapons and gods are s tiers with the correct build of choice

[hot yoke]

Eh

But everything is viable

[sterile solar]

Theres no bets weapon or God, it just depends on what you're using, or currently getting, since rng is involved

[hot yoke]

I wouldn't go as far as calling everything S tier since that means op

[sterile solar]

And that is correct

Everything is op with the right boons

[hot yoke]

Hades is very light on rng compared to other roguelites

[sterile solar]

Very light but still is

[hot yoke]

Well you need the right build

I think calling everything op is a bit too much

But good

[sterile solar]

Like you can force a good to appear, but you cant exactly force them to give you certain boon

You can increase the chances of it happening

[hot yoke]

You can reroll

[sterile solar]

But not guarante it

Rerolling doesn't guarantee something either

Again, it increases the chances

[hot yoke]

Yes but every other popular roguelike is leagues more random

[sterile solar]

I know

[hot yoke]

In hades builds are very consistent to pull off
Since the basic setups don't require much rng manipulation

[sterile solar]

Just because something is easier to get doesn't make it exactly easy

[hot yoke]

Of course the difference between getting a build op and just run winning is less likeable but

It is easy tho
If you know what you're doing

[sterile solar]

It just sounds to me like you're lucky

Cause there's not everytime in run where I want something and I get it

[candid nimbus]

We can generally cater themes fairly well, but entire builds are down to luck yeah

[sterile solar]

^

[candid nimbus]

Hammers especially

[spare quiver]

What's the tolerance on quick recovery? (Dash after getting hit to restore HP)

Is it forgiveable? Or do you pretty much have to be dashing while getting hit?

[candid nimbus]

Gotta do it immediately after getting hit from my experience

[hot yoke]

It's not luck

[spare quiver]

Im going for ||EM4|| right now. Killed my 46 run win streak lol

[candid nimbus]

Eh, heats are generally spoiler territory here

#h1-builds-and-combat might know more about that question

[spare quiver]

I think that's good enough

[sterile solar]

Bro, giving you some control over what you get, doesnt mean is getting rid entirely of the luck factor

Youre getting some control, not complete control

[hot yoke]

I never said that
I was referring to you saying I'm lucky

Chill

[sterile solar]

Cause it is

[hot yoke]

You're hella pessimistic

[candid nimbus]

Not the best place for this conversation, the rng component of builds

[sterile solar]

If you're always getting exactly what you want every single time, thats pretty much luck

[hot yoke]

I didn't say that

[sterile solar]

Ok

[hot yoke]

I said it's consistent to pull off your general build idea

[spare quiver]

I just wanted a general sense @candid nimbus since I've never really used it

[hot yoke]

A build getting op is removed from that

[candid nimbus]

Oh I wasn't talking about your question @spare quiver you're fine

[hot yoke]

That ofc requires decent luck

Was about us

[candid nimbus]

Good luck though!

[spare quiver]

Thanks guys

[hot yoke]

Also tag also poke

Yeah best of luck on restoring your streak

[novel lake]

there should be an endgame keepsake that lets you pick your boons the way you want to

[harsh leaf]

That..... kinda goes against the entire game

[candid nimbus]

Would've been nifty to let say Hypnos make a dream world for us to test things

[hot yoke]

Oh God yes

Maybe it options like that could get added

[candid nimbus]

Pick boons and aspects as we please, spawn things to test idk

[hot yoke]

Spawn different enemies

Yes

[novel lake]

That's why I said it should be an endgame item

After you already clear everything, you get an item that just lets you build any way you want for fun

[hot yoke]

After first clear you mean?

It'd be better if it was an interactable npc imo

[sterile solar]

Yeah the courtyard and skelly are kind of pointless if I can only use the vanilla weapon

Let me put on boons and try stuff

[spare quiver]

Whew freaking beat it! ||EM4||

[hot yoke]

Wow insane man

[spare quiver]

I played alot better this time around and only used 1 DD

[hot yoke]

Yo only one DD even though first time?

That's sick! Congrats

[spare quiver]

It was my 2nd attempt

[hot yoke]

Doesnt make it worse

[spare quiver]

Lost the first one

[hot yoke]

Same as my first clear of regular redacted

[spare quiver]

Thanks

[hot yoke]

Only goes up from there huh?

[spare quiver]

Yup lol

[hot yoke]

What's next?

[spare quiver]

I'm not sure, that had pretty much been my goal since the option to do so was unlocked

[hot yoke]

Guess it's ||Heat|| climbing then

[spare quiver]

I guess I'll just keep doing runs, progressively raising ||heat||

Yeah exactly

[hot yoke]

No way to go but up

[spare quiver]

Im not much of a challenge myself so hard I wanna die person, but I'll see where it goes

Lol

[hot yoke]

Me neither

But hades fortunately has ample options to tweak the experience

[spare quiver]

Yeah very customizable, I love it

[hot yoke]

It's the best aspect imo

[sterile solar]

Ngl my winrate has gone down by a lot ever since em4 came out, but I feel like I'm not really winning if em4 isn't active 🤣

[hot yoke]

As a substitute you can just turn the ||timer|| to Minimum

Forget what it's exactly called

[wintry summit]

I dont get the demetar aspect for fists

I maxed it yet i notice no difference

No extra damage when charged

Same number of hits same damage

Hm works on skelly

[hot yoke]

You have to hit with 12 normal attacks first

[wintry summit]

Not in an actual run tho..

Yeah i know

Doesnt work in my runs

[hot yoke]

Then zagreus will glow

Then it will do as many hits

Of course you still have to hit them since they are seperate hits I think

Also your dash special doesn't trigger it

[wintry summit]

Does the aphridite special boon override it

[hot yoke]

But uses the charge

No it doesn't

[wintry summit]

Because i get it at the start

[hot yoke]

If you press the special after a dash that cancels it though

Maybe that was your mistake

You know the fists have a dash special and a regular special

?

[wintry summit]

If the mob dies on first/second hit

Does it stop hitting?

[hot yoke]

It can't do damage if the mobs dead already

If you have something that extends the range of your special it can hit more than one of course

It's a hitbox after all

[rose compass]

normal for me to still not have cleared @ ~28 runs?

[hot yoke]

Everyone at their own pace

You don't have to compete with anyone

[rose compass]

maybe i'm too agressive in my playstyle 😛

[candid nimbus]

Just keep going and enjoy the game , we've seen people clear in 10-20 and some at 100+

[hot yoke]

[rose compass]

true true. still enjoying it a bunch 🙂

[sterile solar]

Thats what matters

[hot yoke]

That's the most important

Welcome to the club

[candid nimbus]

As long as you're enjoying it and slowly getting better and stronger

[rose compass]

i remember struggling quite a bit with Dead Cells, but then something clicked one day

[hot yoke]

That's how it goes with most roguelikes

Dead cells did me in

[rose compass]

I'm surprised that at this point I am still experiencing new things on my runs

[candid nimbus]

Lots of content, a labour or love this game

[rose compass]

there was one god that was holding out till just last night

[sterile solar]

Thats how hades felt for me, I couldn't win for crap, but once I won, it was all victories

[rose compass]

never seen her before

yeah

[hot yoke]

Tag pls

[sterile solar]

Ah

I forget lol

[hot yoke]

Or just dem should be ok

Happens

Like spelling mistakes in every of my posts

[sterile solar]

I literally went from no victories to ||heat 20|| in no time

[hot yoke]

I rarely have any losses after my first win yeah

Also tag again

[sterile solar]

AHHH

[rose compass]

i look forward to progress 😄

[hot yoke]

Slipping up may man😂

Comes easy> i look forward to progress 😄
@rose compass

[sterile solar]

The more you play the better you get

Also petting cerb gives you a higher chance to win, dont quote me on that

[rose compass]

i stop by for a pet every time

[hot yoke]

It's a fact though

Quote me on that

Same

[sterile solar]

Well then quote vo1di

[hot yoke]

I see it haunting me already

[sterile solar]

Jokes asidez try to enjoy the game, dont get burnt out by trying to unlock something or everything, thats the main issue I see with most new players

Which cant really be called an issue

[hot yoke]

It's hard to pace something you have fun at

[cosmic willow]

kinda a tricky question but how does lightning strike boon work with rail's ricochet fire daedalus? does the second bounce mean lighting strike activates twice?

[hot yoke]

If an attack hits it should trigger

So my assumption is yes

[cosmic willow]

i see, i'm gonna pick it and see if I notice anything

[hot yoke]

Best of luck
Sry I can't give a concrete answer

[cosmic willow]

np

[undone radish]

hi guys, i had a question about the mirror and specifically about stubborn defiance

the mirror says that stubborn defiance lets you revive once per chamber with 30% of your health, but does that mean once per chamber per run or once per chamber you visit in your whole save?

[candid nimbus]

per run

Similar to how the death defiances reset every run

[hot yoke]

Every chamber for that run

I recommend the other option though

[candid nimbus]

So you have stubborn defiance on, die a few times in one run. Next run you'll still be able to do so

[copper lotus]

after gifting pretty much everyone one nectar each which characters should I focus on? I've been gifting skelly every run but I'm getting a lot to spare to gift away

[undone radish]

okay, thanks a lot!

[hot yoke]

after gifting pretty much everyone one nectar each which characters should I focus on? I've been gifting skelly every run but I'm getting a lot to spare to gift away
@copper lotus if you want to get something out of your investment invest in those that give ||companions||

They are ||Sysiphus, meg, Dusa, thanatos, achilles, skelly||

[candid nimbus]

Need to work on ||Patroclus too for achilles?||

[sterile solar]

Yes

[rotund inlet]

||Does Meg ever warm up to you? Like I see her slowly coming out of her shell but she clams up again?||

[sterile solar]

||yes||

[rotund inlet]

Oooh

[sterile solar]

||you even get to smash||

[whole aurora]

So I am midway through a run with extremely nice boon luck. I went afk, and my screen is black in the game. The game is still running and responsive i.e. I can hit escape and hear the game sound change...

If I exit the game will my progress be saved

[rotund inlet]

I would submit that to tech support maybe?

[whole aurora]

my first priority right now is not losing my run

if it a bug report thing comes up I'll certainly send it in!

[rotund inlet]

Sheesh hope you don’t lose that. Good luck

[sterile solar]

If you close the game it should open again your last room

If you're back in the house theres still a way to recover the run in #h1-tech-fixes

[whole aurora]

I'm in a run currently. alright so I should be good if I just force-quit via ctrl alt delete

[sterile solar]

Should yes

[whole aurora]

I can try to use the ingame menu to exit if that would be safer

[sterile solar]

In case it doesn't, again in #h1-tech-fixes theres a way to recover the run

[whole aurora]

oh ok

thank you!

[sterile solar]

For further question about this, head to #h1-tech-support

People there will be able to help you better

[quaint nebula]

I beat final boss 4 times today

shield, bow, shield, bow

[sterile solar]

@whole aurora did it work?

Also for feature bug encounters, pressing f10 opens a bug report

[hot yoke]

Run finally done
Time for brain go recharge and go a bit less mushy

[sterile solar]

But

Did you win

[hot yoke]

Of course

Do you even doubt me?

[sterile solar]

Never

[hot yoke]

Also two duos away from 15 ambrosia

Bless

[sterile solar]

I doubt deep pockets

Not you

Jk

[hot yoke]

Don't missuse bouldy like that

Nah all good

Have a good night/day/whatever

[sterile solar]

Gn fellow shade

[nova vigil]

so I'm at Styx with 3 DDs and full hp using full Athena boons dash, attack and special on the railgun. Should I take evergreen acorn or old spiked collar as the trinket?

[flint eagle]

@nova vigil do u have patrocles?

[vapid sun]

what is the overall best trinket to use a

[nova vigil]

I just got the Patrocles trinket this run so it's only 1 star

[flint eagle]

@nova vigil wait u dont need it

any can be good choice

[quaint nebula]

Lucky Tooth always

[flint eagle]

hp dd or acorn

[nova vigil]

collar is worth more hp currently than lucky tooth

I have 3 death defiances so collar is worth 125 hp

[flint eagle]

@nova vigil well no it should grant u 25 after dd no?

[quaint nebula]

No

It's 75hp

[flint eagle]

oh yes

50 +25+25+25

[nova vigil]

yes

[flint eagle]

125 u right

if u have Athena revenge boon

take any

[nova vigil]

the acorn is my debate bc 5 hits from Hades I think is usually more than 125 damage

[flint eagle]

if u dont take patrocles it help for cleaning styx

[nova vigil]

but it wouldn't effect the poison rats

I'm gonna take the acorn I think that might be a mistake but whatever

[quaint nebula]

so lucky tooth is bad?

[nova vigil]

no lucky tooth is good when u have less than 2 death defiances remaining

at 2 death defiances it's equal

and at 3 it's worse

[quaint nebula]

it depends on your max health, right?

[flint eagle]

no

100 hp after death 3 lvl

[quaint nebula]

I did a test

with 100 hp, collar and tooth are equal

[flint eagle]

collar gives you 50

+25 for every DD

it doesnt matter how many hp u have

[quaint nebula]

it does

150+75+75+75 is collar

100+50+50+50+100 is tooth

[nova vigil]

what

tooth is flat 100

[quaint nebula]

at 100 base HP

[nova vigil]

collar is 50 max hp + 25 regen for each death defiance

[quaint nebula]

Oh I see

I made a mistake

My maths is still correct though

[nova vigil]

wow I just encountered ||tiny vermin|| for the first time... that thing is harder than ||hydra||

[flint eagle]

@nova vigil for me it's top2 hardest boss

after secret one

3rd is T&A

4th is redacted

and Lernie with sisters are easiest

[tired owl]

for me I tend to get low on T&A and start spending DD's like obols on redacted

secret one usually gets at least one DD

[sage stump]

What is everyone's pick of choice from Eurydice?

[dawn niche]

Usually upgraded rarity

[flint eagle]

@sage stump i try 1st usually and if i dont like result i exit game go back and grab 3rd

[whole aurora]

@whole aurora did it work?
@sterile solar it did! Thanks. Died of my own hand later on though lol

[sullen pier]

smh save scumming

I used to do that a ton on cookie clicker

[sterile solar]

darn that sucks, happy it worked tho

[sage stump]

lmao tried to save scum

I guess I did it wrong because I'm back in the house

[sullen pier]

forsenCD my man

[sterile solar]

What is everyone's pick of choice from Eurydice?
@sage stump if i like the boons i have i take ambrosia delight, if not refreshing nectar

[torn tinsel]

I Feel Like I don't get any boons in Tartarus and It's just recourses So by the time I go up against one of the furies I sometimes only have 1 boon Is this something that other people are dealing with or is it something I'm doing?

[sterile solar]

thats why i love ||fated authority||

[dawn niche]

@torn tinsel There is a mirror trait that increases the amount of god boons you can find. it is later down the mirror so try unlocking that if you have not

[flint eagle]

@torn tinsel 1-2 boon is enough

[sterile solar]

not if youre new

[flint eagle]

if u know what to do and if they work good with ur weapon

[sterile solar]

exactly

if you're new isn't enough lol

[flint eagle]

well that's why i always check 1st room before real start

[torn tinsel]

@torn tinsel There is a mirror trait that increases the amount of god boons you can find. it is later down the mirror so try unlocking that if you have not
@dawn niche thanks

I just wanted to know

[nova vigil]

do gods have more than one legendary boon

[cosmic willow]

so, wondering how this works, what if Rare Crop boon chooses a boon, and then I replace that boon with another one?

@nova vigil i think only hermes and poseidon

[nova vigil]

I was about to say poor Poseidon lol

I just got his legendary boon and it's an increased fishing chance that's so underwhelming

[flint eagle]

@nova vigil only pos and hermes has 2

[nova vigil]

seems like I got the bad one 😂

[flint eagle]

@nova vigil which

[nova vigil]

the 20% increase in fishing spots

[flint eagle]

for 1st time it's scripted

[nova vigil]

oh ok

[celest pebble]

i just wish i was better at fishing when i got that one

took me a while to figure it out and now that i have it figured out... ><

[nova vigil]

can you not catch the fish?

[flint eagle]

yup

[nova vigil]

I haven't missed one I just wait for the plopping sound

[flint eagle]

press E too fast or too slow

[celest pebble]

well i didnt realise the timing on it when i first started fishing

[flint eagle]

and bb fish

[celest pebble]

completely missed that the fish could trick you into thinking they'd taken the bait 😛

[cosmic willow]

anyone know if i replace the boon that rare crop chooses, would rare crop apply to the new one or it just becomes useless?

[nova vigil]

I'm not actually sure by rare crop ur talking about the Demeter thing right

[flint eagle]

huh intresting question

[cosmic willow]

yes, dementer

[celest pebble]

probably just become useless i'd imagine

but you're welcome to try... for uh... science!

[nova vigil]

I would assume it wouldn't but I'm not sure tbh

[shut flame]

should i be sinking gems into some of these aesthetic restorations?

[left yacht]

Anyone able to suggest a guide or something for the bow. I've tried like 7-10 builds and they're always total trash. Low damage and no survivability.This is 0 heat.

I've beaten the last boss 3 times so far but it's always with melee weapons and usually a dash build

With the bow I'm lucky to even beat the 3rd boss

[flint eagle]

@left yacht last boss is spoiler

@left yacht what aspect?

[left yacht]

The one that loads up your casts

[flint eagle]

Hera?

[left yacht]

Ya

[flint eagle]

just take Dio cast

ass Zeus duo

and win

@left yacht https://youtu.be/Idlqm_bjmm4

[thorn quarry]

Bow is tricky to get used to because of how the basic works. Hera does work really well with Dio cast because you don't need to do the arc throw it normally does

[left yacht]

I think I'm 30 or so runs in and I've only been offered a duo boon once. I don't have the talent that makes them +10% yet unfortunately

[flint eagle]

@left yacht i didnt have it too but i find both duo i want to the end of the this run

[left yacht]

Hmm ok I'll check it out. Thanks

[flint eagle]

but u mb want cd cast instead of 3

[left yacht]

The infinite cast thing?

[flint eagle]

yes

cus it may be dangerous to come close to enemies to take it back

[left yacht]

Ya I've found I get hit a ton just chasing the crystals down

If the autoaim fails me and the shot goes to the side in the 2nd area it's... unfortunate

Is the cd cast from hammer?

[harsh leaf]

No, the mirror

[left yacht]

Oh really? I guess I never flipped that one

[harsh leaf]

Stygian Soul, it's one of the green upgrades

[left yacht]

Well I feel silly now lol

[flint eagle]

@left yacht also u can make cd even faster with proper hermes boon

[left yacht]

Kept looking for that upgrade during runs

[jolly wagon]

I keep trying to save up 30 keys for the last Mirror of Night unlocks...but then broker offers a Titan Blood for 15 keys and I can't resist 😩

[flint eagle]

@jolly wagon good choice

blood is too rare to miss it

also u can have 2 prophecies from chaos to help with keys

[left yacht]

I've unlocked the whole mirror finally but don't have nearly enough darkness to make use of it >.<

[flint eagle]

just give them 2 more nectar

[jolly wagon]

Yeah true, it's just kinda annoying coz I just want to get that last unlock and be done with it

[flint eagle]

@left yacht make some ||0 heat|| runs with dark thirst

[jolly wagon]

Oooh, I didn't know about the Chaos prophecy. I'll check that out, thanks

[flint eagle]

@jolly wagon one for all curses and 2nd for all boons

but remeber 2nd requires Fiery presence

and his leg is kinda rare

[sterile solar]

I've unlocked the whole mirror finally but don't have nearly enough darkness to make use of it >.<
Farm runs with bounties claimed, use pos keepsake, hes got some good farming boons, and the fishing legendary, also chaos can increase darkness gain

||companion shady|| if you have it unlocked

[flint eagle]

@sterile solar and dark thirst!

[sterile solar]

Thats the most important factor yes

[flint eagle]

https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/9e449dd7637012ac606c149569da9aa2.jpg

[elder dragon]

who should i give nectar to?... i gave the dog one and been using it... is there any better ones

for bows and shield most the times

[sterile solar]

All have their uses, focus on Olympians

So you can start crafting your builds

[flint eagle]

@elder dragon 1 for any person u meet

[sterile solar]

^

[flint eagle]

for keepsakes

[sterile solar]

1 nectar to get them all

[flint eagle]

2 more for chaos to have prophecies and keys early

[elder dragon]

dont have that many ... but i will give them all eventually i guess

[sullen pier]

hermes doesn't give a spawning keepsake, but his is pretty cool

[flint eagle]

and after this u may focus on characters u like most

[sterile solar]

Hermes does wtf

[sullen pier]

give it to your favourite ones then

[sterile solar]

Oh a spawning one ok

[sullen pier]

no, his keepsake is the stacking speed and dodge

[sterile solar]

Nvm read that wrong

[elder dragon]

does giving nectar to 1 person make it more likely to get their boons?

[sterile solar]

No

[flint eagle]

@elder dragon no

[sullen pier]

No

[sterile solar]

But it gives you their keepsake which straight up summons them

[sullen pier]

Just gives you a keepsake that makes it so the next boon is theirs

You could also have hermes butt in but thats about it

Which happens basically no exceptions on the second floor

[elder dragon]

ok cheers... guess after getting all keepsakes i will just trade them away

[sterile solar]

Yeah hermes will almost always show up, im not sure if its 100% guaranteed but almost

[flint eagle]

@elder dragon no

[sterile solar]

You can still gift them and build a relationship

[flint eagle]

keep giving it to characters

it matters for the story also some characters may give you some lategame stuff

[sterile solar]

Theres 6 that are most important than others

||meg, than, sisyphus, skelly, dusa and achilles||

[flint eagle]

@elder dragon dont forget give 2 more nectar for Chaos

[paper imp]

Hey somebody smart, if I use the butterfly keepsake and gain a bunch of damage and then unequip it , is the damage lost? Or does it stay with me

[elder dragon]

ok... guess the game is much deeper than i thought

[flint eagle]

@paper imp lost of course

@elder dragon have fun exploring

[sterile solar]

Unequipping butterfly/plume will remove the effects yes

[cosmic willow]

i'm assuming draining cutter on ||gilgamesh ||doesn't work with the maim?

[flint eagle]

wdym

if they die from maim?

[cosmic willow]

ye

[flint eagle]

i do not think so

it's just some debuff

like doom

[candid nimbus]

But I don't think the heal procs

I haven't tested though, I figured since maim is a status proc so doesn't yeah

[neon sandal]

||If I want to maximize bounties in pact of punishment do i need to increase heat 1 by 1? Or can I increase it as much as i want and just beat the game over and over again at that heat to get all the bounties?||

[candid nimbus]

Only awards 1 by 1

[flint eagle]

@neon sandal u cant have all bounties till 1 run

[candid nimbus]

even if you put on higher, it'll just complete the next lowest uncomplete. So for example: ||Beat heat 5 once, it'll complete heat 0, do it again at heat 5 it'll do heat 1 and etc.||

[neon sandal]

||so like if i skip from 1 heat to 10 heat, then i lose all the bounties between 1 and 10?||

[flint eagle]

@neon sandal no

u have bounties for last heat u didnt beat

[neon sandal]

ooh i see

||so i can beat the game 10 times at 10 heat and get all the bounties from 1 to 10||

[frank veldt]

yea

[neon sandal]

nice, ty

[candid nimbus]

Good luck!

[sullen pier]

||heat|| is a spoiler in this channel

[turbid dock]

Oh my god, I've almost beaten ||Hades!|| I said

Oh look, he's at like 200 HEALTH I said

[candid nimbus]

Ah so close!

You'll get 'em next time, you got this! 👍