There's no way to save mid-run, unfortunately once you die you die without any sort of defiance
#h1-for-new-players
patent cedar
hot yoke
There are little fountains that cure your poison
And they are unlimited
Mostly just keep your distance as much as possible
patent cedar
Once you use a fountain you have to wait a few seconds or use another though
candid nimbus
For the first question there is a 'save scum' method I believe
hot yoke
There are multiple in the bigger rooms though
The satyrs projectiles can be reflected
With Athena boons
patent cedar
Or hide behind pillars if you can
visual quartz
Thank you i guess i just have to be even more careful. I honestly find the satyrs worse then any boss :X
candid nimbus
You make a copy of your save once you enter final boss room
foggy zephyr
forcefully closing your game might cause a Give Up and not load at last stage, at least that's what happened to me
hot yoke
They won't fire if you stunlock them without armor
Same
Lost a run like that because I wanted to reset an anvil at the shop
visual quartz
Ok thats good to know
patent cedar
Oh I didn't know that bit
candid nimbus
#h1-tech-fixes has a way to retrieve your save, but idk if it still works. So making a copy would be advised
foggy zephyr
yeah I chose an unwanted Boon and wanted to reset from the room, kicked me back to Hell
hot yoke
I'm playing on switch
candid nimbus
Ah, for PC that was an option
hot yoke
With creating weapons you can stunlock armorless enemies
*certain
The hits have to be fast enough though
Flurry spear f.e.
lament elk
yes
tepid vale
hades is indeed a very hard game
hot yoke
Smart one
lament elk
haha
tepid vale
it's mostly a matter of practice, you have to learn enemy attack patterns and hitboxes, and also how to build your.... uh.... builds
lavish gazelle
try to get to the final boss with a decent amount of health/defiances, and then instead of being aggressive, focus on dodging and learning his patterns
lament elk
i hav learnd every atak to evere boss ecsept the two last ones becos i am bad
hot yoke
Practice
candid nimbus
Nah you're not bad
hot yoke
You're just not used to it
lavish gazelle
don't focus on winning that fight, focus on getting as much knowledge as you can for future attempts
candid nimbus
Learning is what matters for this godlike
lament elk
i hav beathen him twice tho
sharp heart
Just cleared the final boss for the first time (got fast bull rush charge and extra powerful bull rush!)
Just a couple questions:
I still have the final level of weapon aspects showing as locked. Anything dumb I've missed or just carry on playing?
Also, the two doors near achieves are locked. Same again, missed something dumb or just keep playing?
hot yoke
There's a pinned comment in story and spoilers regarding the weapon aspects
You'll unlock the doors with time
They're tied to dialogue
foggy zephyr
keep playing
hot yoke
Just do runs
daring oracle
I beat the game around 15 times before I unlocked my first locked aspect.
hot yoke
Unlocking the aspect has nothing to do with how many runs you beat
tepid vale
beating the game actually ||slows the process down||
hot yoke
Read the pinned comment in story and spoilers
tepid vale
because dialogue rng
hot yoke
That killed me
Took me till my 55th run for sword 4th aspect
bitter heron
Really? Well &$#@
tepid vale
You have brought swears from the bowels of hell. This is not their place.
sharp heart
Ah cheers, didn't check that thread in case there was story spoilers.
tepid vale
The champion would never let this go unpunished. Prepare yourself.
hot yoke
This is a cthonic server
No swearing
lament elk
Yes
lament elk
Yes
scarlet current
the only swears allowed are blood and darkness
patent cedar
Never darkness and blood though
@serene garden please mark that as a spoiler or say "final boss" instead
hot yoke
And blackguard
tepid vale
Darkness and Blood
patent cedar
Fiend!
tepid vale
also
hot yoke
You blackguard
tepid vale
that's not a spoiler
plain sand
In hades is there a point where u have enough items where u can 1 shot everything?
and have a "God" Run
patent cedar
Common frost flourish on Zeus shield
+211% special damage certainly doesn't feel bad, but I know I can get higher
patent cedar
Well it's +211% so that should be more than triple damage right?
Certainly better in theory but it still feels pretty good
foggy zephyr
Boons damage plateau after some levels
candid nimbus
Good 'ol diminishing returns
high level Dio hangover might be pretty solid actually
hot yoke
Big number
Monkey say uga
foggy zephyr
30
hot yoke
Big numbers good numbers
pulsar frigate
i’ve seen 30+
hot yoke
I use 4tth sword aspect crit because I like when numbers
patent cedar
Oh my god
candid nimbus
Gotta get Aphro/Dio duo early?
patent cedar
I could have gotten 26 with Dionysus' nectar boon but it was right on top of the door and...
Damn
I'm counting 26 for the sake of the lost nectar that shall never be collected
candid nimbus
Still pretty good
formal rover
i think my highest is like 14 or something
hot yoke
Feels good when you trigger arctic blast with one volley
patent cedar
Soon as I finish this run up of course
hot yoke
One boon run, shackles
formal rover
take poseidon keepsake, get sweet nectar as like your second boon or something
then just cruise
daring oracle
The ||Persephone|| keepsake really helps you with leveling boons.
hot yoke
Finally Athena legendary
Her req for that is hella weird
tepid vale
it's not that weird
formal rover
||auto levels one boon the entire game lmao||
formal rover
what’s the req?
tepid vale
"deflect better" -> "invincibility"
hot yoke
Outlier compared to the others
tepid vale
makes sense to me
formal rover
huh
hot yoke
Also it's not deflect better
It's deflect stronger
formal rover
kinda weird since that one’s actually offensive, yeah
hot yoke
And because it's only one
And it has to be that one
formal rover
make more sense for it to be the dr one, or reflect on damage
or both i guess
*either
hot yoke
My train of thought kinda
Especially cause I usually don't care about more deflect damage
tepid vale
more deflect damage is actually amazing
divine dash + brilliant riposte is a build already
formal rover
i dunno the math of it, but i would’ve thought it’d be pretty good, yeah
feels like i’m deflecting stuff all over the place with divine dash/strike
daring oracle
Man, the midboss fight against the four witches making the game a bullet hell?
scarlet current
Lightning Rod it!
daring oracle
Easy as cake with deflect + increased damage
hot yoke
I ain't saying it's bad
I'm just saying I'm not particularly fond of it
scarlet current
Divine Dash is my most-picked boon ever, dunno if it is for anyone else
formal rover
Man, the midboss fight against the four witches making the game a bullet hell?
@daring oracle this game can never be bullet hell because athena is in it
orchid bloom
Ye that and butterfly ball miniboss is hell if you have a bad build + wrong weapon
daring oracle
But if you didn’t have Athena?
orchid bloom
Do you all run with athena keepsake or what? I get her dash special in maybe 25% of my runs >_>
patent cedar
Posted the results of that run in #h1-victory-boasting
scarlet current
you're able to just punch out the bullets, it's not that bad to be a bullet hell
hot yoke
Athena dash best dash
patent cedar
Athena dash best dash indeed
daring oracle
I run with the keepsake to improve dodge, the one with an extra revive, or ||Persephone|| almost exclusively
formal rover
on almost all my harder runs i’ll take athena’s keepsake in either tartarus or asphodel if i don’t find any of her boons, yeah
orchid bloom
Ah
hot yoke
Always hunting for that dash yup
orchid bloom
I'm a sucker for variety so I've only used specific boon keepsakes if I want a certain dialogue so far
orchid bloom
I'm only 30ish runs in tho so it'll probably change heh
hot yoke
Same
But 80% of the time it's back to basics
daring oracle
I like getting up to a 50+% dodge rate
daring oracle
I believe there’s also one I’ve seen that gives an extra 30 ish percent dodge after calls
Skelly’s is a revive
formal rover
yeah that’s a hermes boon
lament elk
Oooo
daring oracle
A death defiance
lament elk
So its good??
tepid vale
skelly's keepsake isn't great unless you're running RI4 and trying to get a tartarus stubborn roots
daring oracle
If you’re struggling with the early game
hot yoke
Depends on the situation
daring oracle
Or you already used the others
lament elk
I am bat at the two final bosses
tepid vale
otherwise other keepsakes outshine it in effective health
hot yoke
RI4?
daring oracle
It isn’t a STARTING boon because it gets used AFTER your others
neon warren
no
formal rover
so just having no DDs doesn’t work?
tepid vale
so you need an empty DD slot for SR to function?
@formal rover no, you just need to have a DD slot for it to show up at all
after that, you don't need the slot at all for it to function, you can just switch at asphodel
hot yoke
As long as you have no dd
plain sand
Is the Chaos trials worth doing at all?
plain sand
or are the rewards not worth it?
lavish gazelle
switching to Skelly before Styx is useful if you're not comfortable with the final boss yet
formal rover
yus chaos is great
hot yoke
Chaos has the most insane rewards
plain sand
Chaos has the most insane rewards
@hot yoke What are the best rewards?
formal rover
i once made myself take damage on attack, special and cast and then went into a boss fight
umm... don’t do that btw
scarlet current
legendary chaos offering is rad
neon warren
if you're using lasting consequences then you might not wanna get chaos
lavish gazelle
doesn't that depend on what attacks you're getting hit by?
neon warren
otherwise pretty much always
formal rover
honestly if you’re running lasting consequences and SD, it’s prolly still worth it
tepid vale
stubborn defiance makes lasting consequences a lot less... lasting
so chaos is still pretty good
plain sand
what is lasting consequences?
hot yoke
I wish chaos keepsake would increase the chances of him showing up or force a chaos gate
scarlet current
Lasting Consequences is a ||Heat option that reduces your healing||
tepid vale
@plain sand difficulty modifier that reduces healing. you might not have it yet.
formal rover
what is lasting consequences?
@plain sand a fun™️ game option you can enable to make the game morepainfulfun™️
plain sand
ahhh hell nah. The game is too hard as it is for me
lyric forge
It gets easier, trust me.
hot yoke
You'll get used to it
neon warren
actually, can you die by going through chaos door with little health
scarlet current
you can't, it'll just be locked and you can't enter
formal rover
nah it just doesn’t let you use it
patent cedar
I think it would be better if Chaos gates required a % of your health as opposed to a static amount so you could always choose to enter if you wish
But the way they have it is cool too
tepid vale
a of your health?
orchid bloom
Chaos is good BUT don’t take it when you’re close to the later bosses. Getting -dodge distance against Elysium boss for example is pretty horrible
coral canyon
Do we know when/if we will get an update on future plans from supergiant? Really curious if they have any plans for any dlc. From what I've looked into they really don't do dlc for any of their games. =/ Hope Hades changes that.
patent cedar
.>
scarlet current
what even is the current system? I know there is a little variation but not why
patent cedar
Could be tied to max health somehow but not totally sure
OK now to try getting higher than lv 25...
swift pond
I've definitely had 26 health taken but I don't think any higher
patent cedar
I've seen 27
hot yoke
I like it because if you got high health you don't really care about the cost
patent cedar
Pretty sure anyway
daring oracle
Why would you level up a single boon that much? The diminishing returns in leveling any boon past level 5 seems pointless
hot yoke
Good that I said that I'm not sure xD
formal rover
i get 21 fairly consistently iirc
patent cedar
I'm levelling a boon as high as I can just to see how high I can get it
Aaand Poseidon...
May just nope out of this one
formal rover
i just tried a poseidon only run
patent cedar
I would if I didn't have Zeus shield
formal rover
poseidon sword, only poseidon boons, poseidon keepsake all the way
icy ruin
the percy jackson experience
formal rover
fairly easy going till i hit champions
patent cedar
I got the special, cast or dash
daring oracle
Poseidon with Bows, Shields, or Fists is my dream
patent cedar
Not choosing special so...
formal rover
well, not easy necessary, but workable
swift pond
Poseidon's boons let you knock back armored enemies at least
plain sand
Are there jsut 4 weapons in this game?
patent cedar
Lol
swift pond
Let's not talk about that
daring oracle
6
hot yoke
No spoilers xDD
plain sand
Let's not talk about that
@swift pond We all know what's on your mind lately. 😉
hot yoke
Jk
formal rover
you’re not the first to make that typo lol
patent cedar
ugh levelling tidal dash... this will be... interesting
hot yoke
Rip
swift pond
Aphrodite & her nymphs
hot yoke
Tidal dash only build
formal rover
pretty sure people have done tidal dash only builds
tepid vale
there was a good one about whether earning a god's favor makes their boons appear more frequently
patent cedar
Apparently it must be so
swift pond
Haha
patent cedar
And this time I truly will only use one boon - not even going to keep the ones that can't be levelled
formal rover
do it
patent cedar
Including... strong drink... 
daring oracle
For Poseidon when using bow, I get the Special does extra damage and knock back boon
formal rover
broke: divine dash
woke: tidal dash at lvl 69
daring oracle
And use the second bow aspect. With the homing arrow
plain sand
broke: divine dash
woke: tidal dash at lvl 67
@formal rover tidal dash at lvl 69*
formal rover
oh no ofc you’re right
swift pond
I do kinda wish this game had an endless mode
hot yoke
He's not the hero we deserve bit the hero we need
formal rover
fixed it
swift pond
1 boon,|| pom flower ||and rng would get us to level 420
hot yoke
That would be a Dank run
formal rover
it’s a new speedrun category; the tidaldash69%
hot yoke
I took crystal beam and forgot I had stygian soul
Instant regret
swift pond
WR here we come
hot yoke
Dank percent
Dinner for two percent
patent cedar
An Aphro boon that I can't avoid...
swift pond
I can't believe the WR for hades is. 7:40. Like last week it was 15 min
paper imp
7:40???
plain sand
Are Aphrodite's powerups the weakest?
hot yoke
How to do you get 4
Skips ig
neon warren
Are Aphrodite's powerups the weakest?
@plain sand
can't tell if pun or serious question
formal rover
Are Aphrodite's powerups the weakest?
@plain sand ...no?
paper imp
It takes me 7:40 to decide which boon to pick lmao
foggy zephyr
Aphrodite attack boons have one of the highest numbers
tepid vale
a lot of dps
plain sand
can't tell if pun or serious question
@neon warren Yes
neon warren
aphrodite is decent for melee builds
hot yoke
MULTIPLE PEOPLE TYPING
formal rover
aphrodite has the highest +% to damage in the game
hot yoke
You angered the mob
tepid vale
It takes me 7:40 to decide which book to pick lmao
@paper imp on the bright side, your time spent picking boons isn't measured by the in game timer
scarlet current
how did the world record get longer with 1.0?
tepid vale
there haven't been a lot of runs submitted yet
neon warren
old patches have separate categories
scarlet current
ah gotcha
neon warren
so old records don't count
plain sand
Wait how old is Hades?
scarlet current
thought something to do with room arrangement fixes
plain sand
Hade the game I mean
formal rover
it’s like a year old?
swift pond
1.0 is like two-three weeks old
patent cedar
This room is very busy huh
daring oracle
2 years of alpha, a week or 2 of public
jolly quartz
I think my fastest run was around 27 minutes.
tepid vale
I wouldn't call it "alpha"
plain sand
This room is very busy huh
@patent cedar Better to have a busy room than a room with dead chat
swift pond
My fastest run is 20.53 and I've been cracking my head trying to get sub 20
neon warren
mine was like 13 minutes and I was really moving fast
daring oracle
“Early Access”
formal rover
like a year since the steam release i guess lol
tepid vale
it's been pretty complete for a really long time
formal rover
apparently around for a while before then
daring oracle
Early Access started December 2018
hot yoke
Quick question
Is the satyr sack spawn just random chance of is there any way to tell?
jolly quartz
Elysium always takes me awhile. Especially when those shield guys show up or bomb wagons.
swift pond
Just random
formal rover
never the first room tho
daring oracle
It’s random between doors 2-5
hot yoke
Guess I'm just mighty unlucky lazely
jolly quartz
Only two enemies I don't know how to deal with.
hot yoke
Lately
formal rover
pretty sure there’s some kind of weighting but no one seems to know what it is
swift pond
I HATE those shield jerks. And theseus tends to stall me too
hot yoke
Shield boys and butterfly balls are my archnemesis
jolly quartz
Yeah third floor boss probably gives me the most issues.
swift pond
The soul butterfly mini boss is the absolute bane of my existence
hot yoke
+100
formal rover
i love that mini boss
hot yoke
Look
swift pond
I avoid mini boss rooms on the third floor because of it if I don't have anything to bust shields
hot yoke
I don't want to hate you
daring oracle
Bow wrecks that boss
formal rover
butterflies or asterius? butterflies every time
hot yoke
But you don't make it exactly easy with that statement
daring oracle
Or any good casting boon
patent cedar
Butterflies, eugh
hot yoke
Asterius over butterflies
He's cake
formal rover
nah
swift pond
I'd take asterius any day of the week
hot yoke
Butterflies just have endless unreflectable projectiles
swift pond
Half of his attacks can be dodged by dashing into him
hot yoke
Asterius is hella predictable
formal rover
asterius with ||FO2|| is headache
jolly quartz
Asterius has become pretty easy for me.
hot yoke
Sry fFO2?
formal rover
||forced overtime 2; +40% enemy movement speed||
formal rover
butterfly ball dies pretty fast if you have a good build
hot yoke
I'll give you that
swift pond
I feel bad he's a miniboss
formal rover
tho it can be a pain sometimes i don’t disagree
swift pond
Really diminishes him imo
hot yoke
None moving butterflies at least aren't affected
I'm just floating my way up the heat levels with each weapon rn
jolly quartz
I still need a win with the gun and sword. Sword I'm pretty confident I can get, just never has the buff for it. The gun I'm still eh with.
patent cedar
Yes but there will be a few more wasted levels on this
formal rover
re: gun win, try using zeus
formal rover
i was rubbish with the gun until i started using zeus lol
hot yoke
I like the gun
jolly quartz
The uncle's never show up for me lol.
tepid vale
re: gun win, try using artemis or aphro with spreadfire
muted latch
which aspect on which weapon should I prioritize if I have 3 titan bloods atm?
hot yoke
Especially||Lucifer||
Spreadfire is fun
I'd say maybe poseidon sword
The dislodge is good for casts
formal rover
spend them on whichever weapons you find the most fun tbh
hot yoke
Depends on your playstyle though
jolly quartz
My last gun run was going well. Then I got the shotgun upgrade. Which killed the run lol. Though it was going to work differently than a small wave.
hot yoke
What's your favorite weapon?
hot yoke
Try hera or chiron aspect maybe
I love chiron
But you should upgrade it at least 1-2 levels
patent cedar
I have to imagine Poseidon aspect is good with exit wounds
jolly quartz
Id say bow would probably be mine as of right now. I am starting to have a respect for the fist.
hot yoke
For shield you need to spend a lot of Titan blood for most aspects to be good
You can technically duplicate your safe file and try out a couple aspects
Then return once you've settled on one
muted latch
I'll go with chiron then
hot yoke
Nice
Satyr sack showing up I'm 5th room
Love my luck
scarlet current
I wish more of mine showed up in the fifth room
hot yoke
I hope you'll have fun with it
Was the first aspect I purchased
Either that or chaos I'm not quite sure
We can trade
patent cedar
99% of the time it's come up 1st (technically 2nd) for me
scarlet current
then I wouldn't have to dodge damage for the other rooms that I was going to clear anyway
patent cedar
Lv 8 tidal dash
swift pond
As soon as I get the sack and heal I peace out. Tiny vermin and armored rats are too annoying
patent cedar
This run is not looking good
hot yoke
I'd love to hear how your first chiron fun felt
swift pond
I wish tiny vermin was like, a rare boss
scarlet current
I need more vermin for my codex
hot yoke
Tiny vermin takes at least 1 dd if I'm playing melee
hot yoke
Hard to see his attacks
swift pond
Hard to see him and your surrounded by satyrs too
tepid vale
having high dps helps with tiny vermin
he has high health, but not really much damage, and his attacks' hitboxes are tiny
hot yoke
Also teleports
restive spoke
I’ve been to temple for like 15 times and I haven’t seen a single tiny vermin
Am I lucky or unlucky
hot yoke
Having high dps helps everything xD
tepid vale
lucky
hot yoke
Lucky
tepid vale
you're very lucky
hot yoke
Vermin actually killed my first styx encounter
tepid vale
I saw him on my second run and it was not pretty
daring oracle
Tiny Vermin is a midboss @restive spoke
hot yoke
I'm my book he could replace refracted
hot yoke
Imagine EM4 just being redacted with vermin
swift pond
He's just super tedious imo
daring oracle
Yeah
hot yoke
Also that mf teleports
patent cedar
Don't think he's actually called tiny vermin but anyone who's come across him knows what the temr means
hot yoke
Don't summon him into yourself
scarlet current
he digs tunnels, excuse you
hot yoke
No
daring oracle
When you go to the temple, do you stop when you find the bag?
scarlet current
he's called King Vermin in Codex
hot yoke
Depends on the rewards ginge
scarlet current
the regular ones are called crawlers
tepid vale
he used to be called tiny vermin
tepid vale
that's why you'll see him being called that all the time
hot yoke
*on
scarlet current
which bow aspect should I use for this next run
hot yoke
||Rama||
restive spoke
Chiron
patent cedar
The 5th room in 4th region?
hot yoke
Yes
patent cedar
It shows you whether there's a boss or not so you can avoid/tackle as and when you want/need
scarlet current
that sounds like 
patent cedar
And hope for not vermin or satyr
hot yoke
Well ||cerberus|| bus still interactable so
swift pond
I I'd take satyr or the spinning purple boy. Easiest two bosses imo
Just a had run ruined in the blades room with increased trap damage pact
hot yoke
Yup
Got purple beyblade
neon warren
trap damage pact is such a fakeout
you think "oh that's easy heat"
boom oneshot by guillotine
scarlet current
imagine not dashing all the blades into enemies
this post made by divine dash gang
patent cedar
Correction; 12
swift pond
Really not looking forward to a 32 heat run. 16 heat was bad enough.
hot yoke
Feels good having artemis legendary and acorn
tepid vale
imagine not completely ignoring the blades because you are invincible after the room is cleared
this post made by the dps gang
@hot yoke you mean athena legendary, I assume?
daring oracle
So, the dialogue calls the creature tiny vermin when you find it. The codex calls it King Vermin
hot yoke
He will always remain in my heart as tiny vermin aka Frickrat
hot yoke
I believe in you
Make the 69 come true
daring oracle
Is.... is there actually a prophecy for a high level boon?
Half serious, half wishing it was added if it isn’t there already
patent cedar
I don't believe so but I shall make my own up
analog rivet
What is Ambrosia used for?
Unsure if I should trade them off for Titan Blood in the shop.
foggy zephyr
relationship
analog rivet
Oh rats, OK.
tepid vale
you can't use them yet because it's locked behind story events, but once you can use them you will use a lot
hot yoke
You should at least keep a couple in your backlog
analog rivet
OK, I'll keep them. I just wasn't sure what they were for since I have 2 and they were going unused. Haven't beaten the game yet.
foggy zephyr
there are a lot of prophecies that rewards ambrosia so you can trade a few if it's urgent
lavish gazelle
once you start needing ambrosia, the floodgates open and you'll need a lot
analog rivet
👍
lavish gazelle
similar to what happens with titan blood, you go from "what is this? i wish i just got darkness instead" to "oh god i need so much blood"
vocal belfry
i just got my first bow victory ^^
got really lucky with the anvil that takes away 1 boon and gives 2
patent cedar
Nice
patent cedar
Ae flame wheels supposed to be as scary as they are to me
vocal belfry
gah i hate those mini chariots too
daring dove
sends shivers down my spine ngl
analog rivet
I hate the chariots so much.
daring dove
There's a reason there's a well of charon boon for removing them
analog rivet
Just when I think I've lured them into a wall they keep chasing me
waxen sapphire
they're meowing
hot yoke
There's an extra pact in the well to prevent them from spawning
waxen sapphire
adorable yet frightening.
hot yoke
That's how scary they are
analog rivet
formal rover
the best kind
daring dove
Although, get a good dash boon that leaves a trail for them to run through, like ares or dio, and they kill themselves
tepid vale
or divine dash
hot yoke
Dash bae
tepid vale
you can kill them by dash-striking directly into them
formal rover
just pick an obstacle then dash from one side of it to the other repeatedly, leading them to blow themselves up against it
argh help i’m dead works every time
patent cedar
Or... just Zeus shield 
tepid vale
anything with any range will also work
formal rover
i mean, you can always kill them by dash striking directly into them
if you really want to
tepid vale
or, if you don't have divine dash, dash-strike away from them so you just nick them with the edge of your hitbox
even fists can get perfect dash-strike kills on them without taking damage
hot yoke
Kill them by running into them
Face first
Galaxy brain counter
formal rover
huh
rough ginkgo
isn't special better for fists
formal rover
think i’ve done that by accident before lol
rough ginkgo
for killing the little turds
formal rover
they can’t kill you if they’ve already killed you 
drifting path
What's everyone's favorite weapon. The sword is just too cool for me
patent cedar
There we go
formal rover
see... see what i did there?
drifting path
I haven't even gotten. Whatever these aspects are. So that's dope
hot yoke
Chiron bow also
drifting path
Just got to the 3rd main boss and he was so close lol
daring dove
straight up zag aspect I dunno, I like all of them really
Spear is perhaps least favourite
hot yoke
Most are fub
Fun
Zag is mostly boring but effective
Spear is least exciting
Though I like just taking flurry an standing in one spot holding attack
daring dove
I just feel like spear attack hold gets interrupted so often, so I never use that part, which means I have little to no aoe
hot yoke
It has good reach and innate piercing
And if you get the triple attack with flurry you also have aoe
Stunlocks like a truck
tepid vale
flurry attack removes the spin, so you just jab constantly @daring dove
daring dove
dab dab dab
proper heron
I think bow builds are lowkey the most fun
hidden bow aspect or the one where the special locks on
with crit builds + doom or something it does a ludicrous amount of damage
but it can get kind of boring sometimes if your just standing there and pressing special lmao
daring oracle
||Demeter with the explosion on stacks of 10 chill||
sacred apex
Should i prioritise destroying bombs against ||hades||?
severe adder
is aspect of nemesis good 
?
proper heron
@sacred apex yes
daring oracle
I mean, you are able to dodge the wave if you time it right
Or move far enough away
severe adder
is it better than poseidon one? Or is poseidon one only for cast build?
proper heron
I think nemesis is better than poseidon
the crit is just so strong
but poseidon is for very niche builds I think, I dont really know what casts its the best for
ive tried with artemis casts and it worked but didnt feel strong enough
daring oracle
Poseidon cast is fun, but I usually stick to Artemis, Ares, or ||Demeter||
proper heron
I think the aspect of posiedon is best with artemis the more I think about it
i only did a few runs with it but I got the hermes boon where you can just rapid fire the casts and i got like +2 casts or something and it was kinda nutty
but i got lucky that run
patent cedar
Hmm
hot yoke
Poseidon is fun for casts
patent cedar
Gives me Atry/Dio boon
Approval Process takes it away
proper heron
DIO
patent cedar
How kind
leaden whale
Got past first boss, and got wrecked by those jumping enemies.
proper heron
I just unlocked the hidden aspect for the fists but I guess ill have to see how that is at a another time
hot yoke
Always hungry for blood
leaden whale
I always found that expression funny.
Because you can't eat blood.
But saying "Thirsty for Blood" doesn't have the same effect.
hot yoke
Wow second perfect catch and I get a scuffer fml
tepid vale
bloodthirsty
leaden whale
You right.
hot yoke
No but thanks
oak fog
Do other gods like Apollo or Demeter get used in this game I'm only in Aphosdel so I'm not that far into the game.
hot yoke
You'll find out
hot yoke
It's a maybe
oak fog
ok...
patent cedar
It's a Find out next time on..
patent cedar
I don't know but I can find out how many attempts
hot yoke
Depends on if you mean beating the story, one run or unlocking everything
oak fog
like the story
hot yoke
I'm still not done with the story but you finish it by completing enough runs
oak fog
ok
hot yoke
But there's plenty content after
oak fog
alrgiht
hot yoke
You'll need a couple successful runs
After that it's just run completion
My first successful attempt was 24 runs I think
patent cedar
Oh the story?
oak fog
yes
patent cedar
Mine was aorund the same, maybe 25/26
hot yoke
Heaps of that
patent cedar
It does not
It does give you things to help with boons, but otherwise no
Yeah my first complete run was 24th
However that was with god mode on, so this must have been around the time I just wanted to advance story
hot yoke
Still first complete run
formal rover
the final boss is a spoiler in this channel
also: rip i feel you
comes outta nowhere the first time
neat epoch
Can someone tell me how Fated Authority/Persuation works? Do you activate it to alter a reward or something like that? Otherwise it does not make sense to me
hot yoke
Yep
If you're at one of the doors you can press the button that you use for gifting
Same with the boon altering once you're in a boon menu
neat epoch
ah ok, thats great, thank!
neat epoch
I didnt have this much fun with a game in forever
neat epoch
hehe yeah, this morning i was talking to a coworker about it and then could barely get my thoughts back to work afterwards :D
hot yoke
I'm annoying my friends with that too yea
neat epoch
so persuasion is just straight up better, because you can also alter well stuff?
formal rover
me: at work
my brain: you should be petting cerberus rn
neat epoch
get dat 10 pet achievement :D
formal rover
i got that before i even noticed it existed lol
hot yoke
No achievements for me
Switch
neat epoch
hehe
hot yoke
I pet him after every run
formal rover
petting gud boi is it’s own achieve
hot yoke
For streaks
humble sandal
Hey guys just curious, I started a new save file which is 1.0 and I have not unlocked the yellow upgrades in the mirror of night? any ideas, I am on 6th clear, 26 escapes, all weapons unlocked
neat epoch
so fated persuasion works only for charon shop items, or also for the chamber rewards?
hot yoke
Most is tied to rng dialogue
hot yoke
There is one for rooms and one for boom and charon
neat epoch
i dont get what that boon part means though
cuz chamber rewards can be boons Oo
am I confused af? :D
formal rover
boons are specifically the things gods give you in this game
neat epoch
ah ok
hot yoke
It refers to when you choose boons
neat epoch
so you can reroll the 3 things they give you
hot yoke
You can reroll those choices
formal rover
but persuasion also works for wells of styx and purging pools
neat epoch
I'll definitely get persuation then
formal rover
yeah it’s way better imo
hot yoke
Tru
formal rover
the tradeoff is you get less uses at max, but still worth it
i only use authority for memes
hot yoke
Midigating randomness is always a strong option in roguelikes
formal rover
like poseidon only runs
neat epoch
that 40% extra dmg vs 2 curse effects is so insane with malphons 2nd version, because the special already does one for 4 seconds
hot yoke
It's nearly always good
mellow star
It’s pretty easy to get 2 curses anyway
formal rover
it’s pretty solid for a lot of builds
some can apply both in a single attack
like 4th fists, or full wine
or chill+decay
fresh crown
4th aspect fists? Ahh someday
formal rover
oh rip
mellow star
The 4th fists are very annoying to unlock
fresh crown
Oh no. I haven’t unlocked any 4ths
formal rover
thought it might but haven’t used them much yet
hot yoke
Not more than any other
mellow star
Well you get them in a different way
hot yoke
Also rng dialogue and I fight that dude a lot of times soo
neat epoch
didnt even figure out how to unlock them yet, but my guess is to upgrade every other version of a weapon at least once? Oo
neat epoch
alrighty
hot yoke
You use it to advance relationships after a certain point
When you give enough nectar to people eventually a heart with a lock will show up
Then you need to do a quest for them
After them you can give them those rewards
leaden whale
Yes I lot for several!
hot yoke
From some you'll get special items
hot yoke
If you completed their quest you just gift it like you would regular nectar
||Chaos quest is tied to Nyx||
I recommend advancing skelly, sysyphus, dusa, meg, thanatos or achilles
Those will give you items
leaden whale
Does the use of souvenirs artifact is required to continue relationship?
hot yoke
No
Only gifting nectar and at a certain point completing their quest
You get those through rng dialogue
lament elk
Shold i get god of wine poisen on bow special
lament elk
??
hot yoke
Have you unlocked all weapons yet?
lament elk
Yes
lament elk
I use the one that shoot gems
hot yoke
Oh hera
lament elk
Yes i gues
hot yoke
Ur cast is more important than your special honestly
But poison cast is a good option so you might as well take special
lament elk
It STACKS!!
hot yoke
It does continuous damage
lament elk
Well thats op
lament elk
Thats 90 damegs the second
serene garden
Can anybody tell me what the hearts with the key holes mean?
lament elk
I think its love
foggy zephyr
it just means you can't progress until later
fresh crown
each of the little rooms in the final area, those short ones, those count as an encounter, right, because I get the Side Hustle bonus each time?
lament elk
Hay vo1di how are you not mod with all you do on this server
hot yoke
Side hustle gives you money per chamber
hot yoke
Because I'm only on the server for like 3 days
And I don't do that much
I only answer a couple questions
tepid vale
there are a lot of people that do a lot on the server
fresh crown
Gotcha gotcha. Chamber, not encounter
lament elk
Yes you write like crasy
hot yoke
And not all of them right xD
tepid vale
lol same
lament elk
No problem
lament elk
How do you see that
fresh crown
oh, OH the third aspect of the shield looks FUN
lament elk
I feel like i see you where ever i look
hot yoke
Believe me my investment will get less with time as with most stuff
I just got a lot of free time rn
worthy raven
How do you get such a fancy frame at the end of a clear?
hot yoke
Y'all can't escape me xD
foggy zephyr
you can unlock ||vanity UI and other stuff||
hot yoke
Once you win enough runs I think
silent trail
When using Fated Authority does anything influence the odds? Like trying to turn gemstone into a boon seems impossible?
hot yoke
No
There are two types of rooms
Those with the golden stuff on the outside and those with the blue
foggy zephyr
tepid vale
better to just link the guide
silent trail
Ahhh! Okay I wonder what gold/blue meant
mild orchid
is it ever possible to get more than two Daedali hammers in a run other than through the ||anvil||?
faint umbra
nope
tepid vale
nope
mild orchid
rip
hot yoke
Yeah where's my 5 hammer run
mild orchid
would be fun to see some wacky mod down the road that lets you just take all the hammers
jolly quartz
Are you guaranteed to get hammers every run?
hot yoke
Yes
jolly quartz
How many?
hot yoke
2
tepid vale
not quite
jolly quartz
Gotcha.
hot yoke
You should at least see 2 hammers
tepid vale
you can go runs without ever even seeing hammers, although it is very rare
balmy prawn
19 hours in
hot yoke
Please censor his name
mild orchid
mark the final boss as a spoiler please
hot yoke
Weird I find the first phase harder
jolly quartz
How do you censor stuff?
hot yoke
||
faint umbra
||like so||
hot yoke
On each side of the word/sentence
tepid vale
Also, specifics about the fight, (namely, the fact that there are ||multiple phases||) are spoilers
jolly quartz
|so like this?|
daring oracle
But with two
tepid vale
two bars on either side
jolly quartz
||ah||
tepid vale
||like so||
balmy prawn
Not gonna bother with policing every detail I say so might as well just delete
jolly quartz
Gotcha.
balmy prawn
Unless I start using spoilers for my entire messages
daring oracle
||Or type something, highlight it, and mark as spoiler on mobile ||
hot yoke
People that know know
fresh crown
I'm worried I might have let too much info slip when I was fighting the last boss last night,b ut it was the middle of the night so I think I'm safe
mild orchid
the real final boss is ||using the server without ever accidentally spoiling anything haha||
balmy prawn
Why not just have spoiler free channels and then channels that allow spoilers if it's such a big deal? Even the channel that specifically says spoilers has people hiding their messages
daring oracle
The real final boss is fighting ||Chiron|| for fun and extra money.
hot yoke
Because it's important to be inclusive
daring oracle
You’re also specifically on the New Players channel
hot yoke
A lot of people don't want to be spoiled
mild orchid
fr how do you dodge through those purple grape projectiles
balmy prawn
Yes because I am new
hot yoke
So you leave it up to choice
unique tendon
does the spin attack with 'ares' apply the red thing 😄 ?
tepid vale
yes
hot yoke
Don't force your opinion on others
fresh crown
I'd assume so, since it uses teh attack button
unique tendon
awesome
balmy prawn
It's not an opinion but an obvious improvement
hot yoke
There is a spoiler free channel if you haven't noticed
balmy prawn
If spoilers are a big deal, have channels that allow and disallow them
fresh crown
that is the case
hot yoke
Putting two signs on either side of the word is not difficult
balmy prawn
@hot yoke Where?
daring oracle
Or just saying “the final boss” or “redacted”
balmy prawn
Even the channel that literally has spoilers in the name has people using spoiler tags
mild orchid
mild orchid
spoiler tags in that channel are mostly formality, any new player is smart enough to avoid it
balmy prawn
And if it's story specific, how am I supposed to talk about other stuff there such as asking for help with X thing?
hot yoke
It's like going into a store without a mask and demanding to be served because masks impede our freedom
You mark it as a spoiler
People who don't mind read it
And help you
balmy prawn
I'm not demanding to have all channels have spoilers with no care
hot yoke
If they censor something
You click the spoiler
faint umbra
if youd like to discuss the final boss freely, you can do so in #h1-builds-and-combat. the current spoiler tags in #h1-story-discussion are because 1.0 just came out and many people may not have had the opportunity to see all the new content
hot yoke
And read it
foggy zephyr
@faint umbra can you delete the gif in #h1-story-discussion ?
mild orchid
there's also a lot that comes after what most consider the "end" which is just spoilers everywhere for now.
foggy zephyr
ty
hot yoke
Bless
balmy prawn
@faint umbra Thanks, but still as someone who also works as a volunteer on a big discord server for a game I'd recommend making the spoiler thing a bit more clear as to where they are allowed, where they aren't and maybe improve the whole system by having a spoilers role that unlocks those spoiler heavy channels
patent cedar
Spoilery things go in #h1-story-discussion
hot yoke
As she just said there are such channels
patent cedar
Mostly
hot yoke
And it's written in the channels description as far as I know
Maybe read rules and channel descriptions
balmy prawn
Are people even reading what I am saying at this point?
balmy prawn
Nothing about spoilers in #h1-builds-and-combat
patent cedar
Damn I can't type
hot yoke
Typing hard
jolly quartz
||Does killing Skelly with a maxed sword actually perma kill him? I wanna max relations with everyone and it kinda seems like that's the way to progress his, but I wanna make sure.||
foggy zephyr
just do it
||
jolly quartz
Hmmmm lol.
dusky imp
so i might just be blind but where's the courtyard
or have i just gone through it multiple times without realizing what it's called
patent cedar
Yep
hot yoke
So yes to the second part of what you said xD
fresh crown
making selections at the contractor and seeing where they go is literally the only way I can figure out what the different places are called to be sure
patent cedar
Lol
silent trail
Isn't parting shot useless without blinding flash?? Kinda confused over requirements.
hot yoke
Why?
Parting shot also gives you backstab damage
You also get backstab bonuses from the mirror
silent trail
Ahh gotcha okay
hot yoke
But yes it's certainly more useful with exposed
silent trail
One more question. With all the weapons their dash attack gains property of the attack, right? Is this different with shield rush or dashing into arrow/gun?
hot yoke
Still counts as attack, though there are also seperate bonuses for dash attacks
silent trail
Perfect thanks
hot yoke
Although I'm not 100% on the arrow/gun thing
silent trail
Yeah I've been confused on range dash properties. Like I think it's only the first bullet? But what about twin shots?
hot yoke
Twin shots is an attack modifier
So it should affect everything that has to do with attacks
lyric forge
IIRC it works like this: when a god boon says "attack" it means attack AND dash attack. If a hammer says "attack" it ONLY means attack.
silent trail
IIRC?
lyric forge
"If I remember correctly"
leaden whale
Is the game development over or will more stuff be added?
leaden whale
Yeah I know