sounds fairly nice
#h1-for-new-players
vague sleet
vague sleet
is it affected by blessings?
sleek whale
oh it does
vague sleet
As in, extra damage, crit %
sleek whale
aphro is the best imo
candid nimbus
You'll get diminishing returns from Zeus special though
vague sleet
and like, does it do 5 zeus lightings?
candid nimbus
No there's a cooldown
vague sleet
yeah guessed zeus would be weird for it
candid nimbus
Oh so I heard wrong? I thought the change in Zeus cooldown caused only like 1-2 strikes as you hit so fast the cooldown doesn't end yet
Similar to Chiron
sleek whale
i suggest taking this to #h1-builds-and-combat since thet'll know more ig
candid nimbus
shrug regardless if you want to try it out, no harm
dusk quarry
can anyone tell me how I can farm more titan blood ?
sick mason
increase your heat
patent cedar
Clear the first boss with each weapon, then you'll have to complete a run
candid nimbus
Titan blood can be gotten from, well after beating final boss you'll see. Prophecies, Broker trade, Charon shop in a specific location
dusk quarry
oh I am failing failing to complete a run again and again. Thats why I am not getting any I guess :v
patent cedar
Yep
candid nimbus
You'll get one first time beating something
patent cedar
I would suggest gifting nectar to some people if you can
candid nimbus
Then afterwards it'll just give darkness as you already claimed that
patent cedar
The keepsakes can be quite useful
dusk quarry
wasted them on wrong builds xD
patent cedar
Nectar or titan blood?
dusk quarry
titan blood
patent cedar
Ah
faint umbra
If you beat the first boss with all weapons you’ll get more titan blood, if you haven’t already
patent cedar
Yeah which aspects did you put blood into?
faint umbra
you get one set of bounties for each weapon
dusk quarry
I put them all into the gun. But the gun sucks . Should have used them in the shield
patent cedar
The gun is actually fairly decent, but as with every weapon it depends on which boons you have
So which boons did you get?
dusk quarry
I see. @faint umbra
patent cedar
Also did you use titan blood to get more max ammo for the gun?
dusk quarry
I went with Athena deflect boons I think with no reload burst shots. It deflected everything :v It was fun
patent cedar
Deflect I could see being decent with the gun
dusk quarry
No I got the one that gives bonus damage on Q
patent cedar
Ah
Because the railgun can get hits with a fairly high rate of fire, I would probably suggest Athena which you already did, or Artemis because that means more crits than typical slow weapons
dusk quarry
I only got to him with shield. I always die on thesius with other weapons. That damn minotaur.
candid nimbus
Zeus, Dio are solid choices also since they're a straight damage upgrade
We don't say final boss names here
patent cedar
Final boss is spoiler by the way
dusk quarry
oh sorry
candid nimbus
but there was a bug at one point where you could take weapons from courtyard into house
patent cedar
Dio is fun too
Just constant DOT which stacks up to 5x
Haven't tried Zeus on gun but can imagine it being good
dusk quarry
Which god has the best dps ? Ares ?
candid nimbus
Varies
patent cedar
I honestly couldn't tell you about DPS
dusk quarry
Because the railgun can get hits with a fairly high rate of fire, I would probably suggest Athena which you already did, or Artemis because that means more crits than typical slow weapons
@patent cedar ok I will try more
patent cedar
Just try to get variety and test things out for yourself, you'll find what works
I wouldn't suggest Poseidon on gun though, you'll just end up pushing enemies out of range
severe basalt
How do you unlock the legendary hidden weapon aspects? I've tried googling. Everywhere it says 5-6 Blood into the Weapon so I got Achilles Aspect to lv3 which equals to 6 Blood invested.
Then got told to spam talk with Achilles after every run.
Now I beat the game and I'm at over 15 successful runs and over 30 total runs and still nothing. Am I missing something?
candid nimbus
RNG dialogue probably
dusk quarry
Ok @patent cedar
patent cedar
There's probably information on hidden aspects in #h1-story-discussion
candid nimbus
#h1-story-discussion has it pinned
patent cedar
Good luck
severe basalt
oh ty
candid nimbus
but it always comes down to RNG dialogue
dusk quarry
Ok one thing guys. I am on my 24th run. Still havent completed a run yet. Am I doing bad , good or average ?
candid nimbus
There is too much data to really say "average"
Whenever you clear is whenever you clear, we all play at our own pace
dusk quarry
Good answer
candid nimbus
I've seen as low as like 8 to as high as 100+
dusk quarry
damn
candid nimbus
There's also a million copies floating around far too much data
Just gotta keep at it friend, you got this! 👍
dusk quarry
Ah thanks ❤️
neon crypt
question - how does one reroll well of charon items?
I've seen it on some of the yt vids
hot yoke
Ay man everyone has their own pace
Most important is having fun along the way
You can reroll the well at later point
It has something to do with the mirror
You'll eventually get it by upgrading it
deep mason
I remember seeing a boon but makes it so your Cast get any backstab bonus you have..anyone knows from who it is exactly?
candid nimbus
That's a duo... Athena Aphro?
candid nimbus
I don't remember what the pre-reqs are but that should help find it
hot yoke
You can find the prereqs in the codex
deep mason
I was thinking how good would Aspect of Hera Bow with that boon and Black Shawl would be
hot yoke
It's either of their attacks/specials/dash/cast/aid
deep mason
So I wanted to try and find it
candid nimbus
Ah it's a general one I see
hot yoke
Just pick one of those from either of them
Then you have a chance of getting it
I haven't thought big that combo before
Maximum small brain
For me it's just cast go brrrrr
deep mason
Well, Black Shawl is 20% extra backstab damage and 20% damage to undamaged enemies
which should stack up together if you have that boon
+chaos boons for backstab if you can get them
which usually are big
hot yoke
Big burst damage
white dew
I got Theseus!
hot yoke
Damn
white dew
how do I check how many death defies I have left?
hot yoke
Made it outta Elysium
white dew
I don't rmemeber if I used 1 or 2
hot yoke
Should be above your life bar
hot yoke
If there's something in the circle you got a death defiance
jagged vortex
Equip tooth for an extra charge if you have it
white dew
What's a good keepsake for the final area?
white dew
I'll equip the tooth
jagged vortex
Tooth is good if you're low on Dds and need them for the final beds, spear point and acorn are just really good in general when maxed
Oh autocorrect swapped boss for bed, nice
white dew
we in styx baybee
jagged vortex
Or I typoed and autocorrect guessed wrong
hot yoke
Prepare for more pain xD
sage geyser
prepare for more pain!
jagged vortex
Also please remember to spoiler tag things! Especially in this chat room
sage geyser
for some reason, i really like poseidon boons for styx tho lol
hot yoke
Jinx xD
sage geyser
yup, quite fun
hot yoke
I hate that poseidon knock back doesn't work against bosses
Or does it now?
jagged vortex
I dont think it does, but there are boons that make knockback weapons do more damage vs bosses
sage geyser
^
white dew
NO!
hot yoke
I know
But it sucks that you have to resort to that
white dew
NO! NO! NO!
hot yoke
Especially because the barrier stuff is useless
jagged vortex
What got you now
jagged vortex
: )
brisk olive
ohhhh
brisk olive
^^^
sage geyser
well, look at from the bright side
rupture is a good status effect
and boons have quite high damage
hot yoke
It still makes him worse than the others
At least in my feel
jagged vortex
He also has a lot of really good duos
hot yoke
Yes but you have to remember that the extra boss damage gets balanced by his main gimmick not affecting them at all
sage geyser
why would you pick anything other than athena/aphrodite/artemis
yeah
but my point is
jagged vortex
Certain weapon build well with the right gods but you're not wrong
sage geyser
pose's quite strong actually for being such an underrated god
hot yoke
My point is he should be better
candid nimbus
Anything can work, just gotta believeeee
jagged vortex
Those three are very good
hot yoke
Or more general
I'm not saying he's weak
But it sucks that his main gimmick falls flat
jagged vortex
Posiedon works well with room clearing, having a big aoe cast and doing a lot of extra damage to regular enemies in the form of wall hits
sage geyser
tho, even in bigger rooms and specially with certain weapons
yeah
that's his trade-off
I literally clear some elysium and most styx rooms in 2-3 secs with posiedon*
candid nimbus
Big Catch is meta
hot yoke
But other gods don't have that trade off
jagged vortex
Ares does well vs single targets and especially well vs bosses but can be less fun vs regular enemies
jagged vortex
Aphrodite doesnt have a very visible status but has the highest damage bonus
sage geyser
unless you entirely invest on duos/legendaries with zeus
hot yoke
My point is all the other gods stuff works more or less universal
Aside from effectiveness
sage geyser
his single target damage falls REALLY short
jagged vortex
Jolted can work well on single targets, but yeah I can see that
sage geyser
let's say you get 3-4 "meh" boons at best
candid nimbus
Maybe take this to #h1-builds-and-combat ?
sage geyser
sage geyser
damn we all got carried away didn't we
candid nimbus
Usually I don't send elsewhere, but lol it appears so
But we all love the game so, 
hot yoke
candid nimbus
It ||the message changes everytime||
white dew
||Got to his second form and then immediately died||
candid nimbus
Yeah redacted is a meanie
white dew
Why are they easier? because you know what's coming?
odd forge
I mean, you say that, but I got less far with the Final Boss the second two times than the first 🙂
sly vigil
Mental hurdle
white dew
what is ambrosia useful for?
white dew
Oh does it unlock the locked hearts?
white dew
so it's like super-nectar?
odd forge
Kinda, yeah
white dew
wait but what does it do? I notice I can't gift it right now
hot yoke
For some character it gives you a super special keepsake
odd forge
No, you can only gift it in the late relationship stage.
hot yoke
You have to finish quest lines for characters
odd forge
(which is when the hearts unlock)
hot yoke
^
odd forge
each character's unlock is different, and most of them will turn up in conversation [there's one or two which are a little trickier to get to trigger]
If you have locked hearts, they mostly will, eventually
hot yoke
Once you unlock the quest lines there will usually show a prophecy up for them
white dew
I notice that the fate for renovating the lounge didn't unlock when I did a renovation there
do you have to do all of them?
odd forge
You need to renovate the lounge a certain amount for that.
Not all of them, but it will trigger when you've done enough of them
(||And that actually is an unlock||, for ||Dusa||)
hot yoke
And then you can ||gift her ambrosia and get a companion||
odd forge
^
white dew
I opened up more of the mirror
odd forge
Honestly, that's probably the best thing to spend keys on near the start
odd forge
Well, you can trade them for other resources
but if you haven't unlocked the whole mirror, it's definitely best to finish that off first
white dew
I use the broker sparingly, it never feels like a good deal
only when I need something specific
hot yoke
Later when you barely have a game affecting use for keys they're ok for getting nectar
white dew
What's a recommended god for the sword?
I like the start the game with a god's keepsake to steer the run, then switch to something else in asphodel
sage geyser
hm, would be demeter/aphrodite i think? or artemis
white dew
I don't have demeter
sage geyser
aphrodite/artemis would be sweet then
white dew
my artemis is fully ranked so I'll go with that
white dew
I'll nectar her next time I see a boon from her
hot yoke
Good luck
sage geyser
attack 100%, so you get more procs specially with dash attack spam
steady minnow
yo ive got a bit of a question
is the player model supposed to disappear during some actions like attacking or dodging? Or is that a part of the game?
hot yoke
You mean the visual effect that obscures most of zag during the dash?
steady minnow
i dont know, to me it doesnt look like a visual effect, more like hes literally vanishing
it does it with other things too, like petting cerberus in the main hall area
steady minnow
i recorded a short clip of it if you want to see what i mean
hot yoke
Definitely
steady minnow
https://youtu.be/dvKlelt9-Co heres what i was talking about
mint stone
Is there a "fast travel" in this game if you've completed a certain amount of chambers?
steady minnow
yeah i just got done uninstalling and reinstalling the game, and it seems to be fixed now
think ill have a much easier time playing now lmao
hot yoke
Wow you've been playing with that?
Jesus I feel bad for you
Still
Report it if possible
steady minnow
will do
hot yoke
Thank you
hot yoke
You'll get them back
white dew
Wait how? I didn't last time I was in ||Styx||
serene crystal
does the bond do anything for your keepsakes or is it just the chibi image, not actually any effects
fervent thistle
I'm stuck in progression. Sometimes I can get past the bone Hydra, but most of the time I can't do enough damage in Elysium. I've gotten to the theseus fight once and they screwed me over big time.
hot yoke
Just chibi
dawn niche
Its just a practice thing
hot yoke
If you are having troubles try god mode
dawn niche
Also finding out what boons you play well with
serene crystal
@fervent thistle how many runs are you on? just getting more darkness each run will make it easier
dawn niche
^^
hot yoke
Otherwise it's a lot of practice
fervent thistle
I'm on 24 I believe
dawn niche
I finished when i finally unlocked all mirror
hot yoke
It'll eventually get easier with upgrades
dawn niche
You're still good
fervent thistle
I have all the upgrades that are useful in the second mirror sectionn
should I just grind keys to unlock the full mirror?
serene crystal
you kind need to unlock 3 sections at least
fervent thistle
Idk what the upgrades in the next tiers are
fervent thistle
sheild and only sheild for the most part
serene crystal
I think shield and spear are the best for early wins but bow with the right upgrades can also do it
serene crystal
always try and get an athena dash as well
fervent thistle
My issue is moreso the lack of damage I'm doing
serene crystal
poseidon knockbacks with shield is good
hot yoke
I can recommend chaos shield and chiron bow
serene crystal
because you can get knockback damage stacking with his boons
fervent thistle
Every enemy, especially the mini/bosses in elsyium takes forever to kill
hot yoke
Try shield with dio special and aphrodite
patent cedar
Can recommend Zeus shield
dawn niche
You might want to invest in Aphordite/Dio/Ares
Their damage boons help out a lot
The weakness/hangover/doom
white dew
I hate the zeus shield
dawn niche
Mood
patent cedar
I really like using it
hot yoke
Zeus shield big fun
dawn niche
It depends on playstyle i think
patent cedar
Just plant it somewhere and deal with the smaller enemies
dawn niche
I never use the charge with it
hot yoke
Torally
serene crystal
putting lighting on zeus shield is fun
patent cedar
I barely bullrush
fervent thistle
I've mostly been getting aprhodite and arrow lady ones
just bad luck for the most part
hot yoke
Have you given nectar to everyone?
dawn niche
Do you have the keepsakes
patent cedar
I think I liked Artemis special on shield more though
fervent thistle
I have a good amount of them
hot yoke
You get keepsakes from the gods
If you choose them they are guaranteed to appear next and you get better boons
fervent thistle
I have the dio ares zues ones
patent cedar
They do only guarantee one boon though
white dew
is the fishing rod worth it?
serene crystal
I'd recommend aphrodite for more damage
white dew
what does it do?
patent cedar
It's a rod of fishing...
serene crystal
you can fish up fish and hand them to head chef at the house to get items
patent cedar
It lets you fish lol
white dew
for as long as I want?
serene crystal
no
hot yoke
Maybe equip the dio and then go for poison special with chaos shield
patent cedar
Some fish have good rewards, some are less valuable but still good enough
serene crystal
there is a chance in every room for a point to spawn
dawn niche
^
serene crystal
you will hear a ding when you spawn in
noble trellis
I just beat the third boss for the first time
dawn niche
Completely random
hot yoke
Also aphrodite aid and attack if you can get
white dew
oh okay
noble trellis
How do I get to the last boss? cerberus was blocking the way
white dew
is it a keepsake or do I always have it?
hot yoke
Congrats nala
dawn niche
There is a Posideon Legendary that increases fishing chance tho
white dew
there are rooms to the left nala
serene crystal
you find a sack to feed him with in the tunnels on the left
dawn niche
Ayy Nala great accomplishment
hot yoke
To the left of cerberus there are a couple cells
white dew
you have to find an item
patent cedar
The ding for fishing will either happen at the start, or if the room contained enemies, will happen on collecting the rewards
noble trellis
No u buy it with 1 diamond from contractor
hot yoke
You don't have to
fervent thistle
Also does the game still end after getting the item for dog or is the final boss after that
patent cedar
Very worth it for a single diamond
noble trellis
Is it worth to trade 1 ambroisa for titan blood
fervent thistle
The wiki seems outdated
hot yoke
No spoilers
white dew
Okay seems pretty worth then
noble trellis
can u only fish in chaos realm?
patent cedar
I would say it's not worth trading any boss resources
hot yoke
You can dish everywhere
patent cedar
You can fish in every region
hot yoke
It's worth trading ambrosia for blood
Imo
patent cedar
Listen out for the ding on entering a room or collecting its rewards
hot yoke
Obviously you should give your ambrosia away but you also get plenty from list rewards
faint umbra
you get a large amount of darkness by fishing in chaos
white dew
wait are you kidding me?
white dew
There's a second option to all of the mirror upgrades!????
serene crystal
yeah the green section
patent cedar
Yep
noble trellis
Cant u fish for titan blood tho?
hot yoke
Ambrosia is only necessary for companions
serene crystal
they're not that great though
dawn niche
I guess you do get quite a bit later on
serene crystal
@noble trellis once you complete run there is a very rae spawn chance after final boss
dawn niche
so early yea you could exchange for blood
patent cedar
Stubborn defiance is decent if you die very frequently
serene crystal
@white dew not many are good though
@white dew I think the health for darkness one is though
hot yoke
I already have more ambrosia than I need
Yo get 2 for every time you reach the surface with a secret aspect
serene crystal
@noble trellis yeah
hot yoke
But you should always keep a couple ambrosia
serene crystal
you can get a rare spawn point after the final boss and there i a chance you can get blood diamond or ambrosia
hot yoke
I'm not saying to throw it at the broker
noble trellis
Ah ok
hot yoke
Sparingly
If you're like 1 blood away from an upgrade or some
hot yoke
Practice makes perfect
white dew
Zeus is the best god for gaunlets right?
noble trellis
whos the best god for bow?
dawn niche
Depends for what you want
pulsar frigate
what are you building? attack or special?
dawn niche
There is no absolute "best god" more than whats your playstyle
hot yoke
Always depends on the aspect
noble trellis
Im using chiron on bow
hot yoke
Not zeus for chiron special
serene crystal
i like aphrodite and someone like demeter or dion for the special
vivid crane
Dio or ||demeter||
serene crystal
aphro on attack
hot yoke
Oh sorry
vivid crane
Stack ‘dem status curses
noble trellis
dio is alcohol right?
serene crystal
yeah
patent cedar
Yep
noble trellis
And who is dem?
hot yoke
Yes
patent cedar
Dio is very fun
serene crystal
you get her later on
pulsar frigate
i always go dem on chiron, but if you don't know who that is, ignore me
pulsar frigate
just don't take zeus on chiron. thunder flourish has an internal cooldown of .2 secs, and chiron strikes way too fast to get anything more than 1 bolt off
patent cedar
Put enough time into it and you will get far enough eventually
noble trellis
I just wanna beat the game xd
serene smelt
What about the Hera bow? I'm not sure which casts benefit the most
hot yoke
Patience is virtue
noble trellis
Can I refund aspects btw
serene crystal
@nala no
noble trellis
I kinda wasted my titan bloods
hot yoke
Nope
noble trellis
unlucky
patent cedar
Which aspects did you put blood into?
white dew
I spent 2 titan bloods on the zeus shield and I will regret it until the day I die
patent cedar
Ah
hot yoke
There is, I think, no aspect that's necessarily bad
Most of them are just playstyle
vivid crane
Zag bow is great
patent cedar
Yeah
hot yoke
Oof
noble trellis
I prefer chiron tho
patent cedar
So is Zeus shield
noble trellis
I like the aimed q
hot yoke
You'll get enough blood
patent cedar
I say as Zeus shield main >.>
noble trellis
Whats the best way to get blood even
noble trellis
I got to cerberus last run for the first time but I died to some poison
patent cedar
Unlucky
serene crystal
have you got the peroclese keepsake?
patent cedar
Ironically first time I died to poison I was using Dio
serene crystal
from the special room in third section?
noble trellis
Dont think so
patent cedar
Learned how DOT feels real quick
noble trellis
is peroclese that guy that sits on the floor
serene crystal
yeah
noble trellis
ahh
serene crystal
give him nectar next time you see him
noble trellis
Who should I give it to?
patent cedar
Ambrosia comes in much later
hot yoke
Also the tooth from skelly is decent
serene crystal
Is it a story thing?
patent cedar
Not totally sure but you may want to cover that up anyways
hot yoke
No
serene crystal
@patent cedar now you have quoted it
hot yoke
||Sisiphus||
patent cedar
Cerb does have a good keepsake though
hot yoke
Eh
serene crystal
I've never used his keepsake
hot yoke
The others just do more imo
patent cedar
That's also good
I used Cerb's keepsake at the start of a run when I needed the health the most
dawn niche
^
patent cedar
Now I just go for whichever god I want to try out
vivid crane
There are better keepsakes but it is useful for a while
hot yoke
I rather use a gods keepsake to get my build started
patent cedar
150 health at the start seems a litte much to me
hot yoke
I think there's no argument for not using the life increasing upgrade over the other
patent cedar
Yeah, that's what i do now
vivid crane
I would take a chaos egg, coin purse or other stuff to help you build your run but avoid forcing gods because the randomness is important to me
patent cedar
I think I use a couple green ones
hot yoke
^
vivid crane
That’s just my philosophy tho
patent cedar
Well, for the purpose of this I guess 5 is counted as a couple >.>
hot yoke
Most of them only work if you build around them for my feeling
patent cedar
Dark regeneration I think is better than Chthonic vitality
glacial oasis
how does one farm titan souls?
vivid crane
After the first few, beat the final boss Legend
patent cedar
If I'm on a new heat I'll use Chthonic because bosses don't drop darkness
hot yoke
Double health is so much more valuable than having to pick a room that doesn't advance your build just for healing
I never use stygian
vivid crane
Lmao that just proves your play style is not in the majority, both are fine
hot yoke
Imo there's no argument for stygian unless you're farming darkness
Even then it's questionable
But yeah personal preference
vivid crane
Boss heals and shops give so much more health than 3 per room. We were talking about this pre-release, i was shocked they didn’t buff regen
sonic crescent
Alright dumb question - If I get the noon from chaos that adds bonus gems and purple stuff, and I get the option to take that from him a second time do they stack???
pulsar frigate
Dark Regen turns:
- boss darkness drops into half hp heals, combined with the fountain you get fully healed after each biome
- darkness troves into good heals
- darkness from wells and charon into heals, which are cheaper than regular healing items and can top you off as needed
- sunken treasure from poseidon into extra heals on top of what you already get
- chaos eclipse/ocean's bounty into great healers on top of being great resource grinding boons
vivid crane
@sonic crescent Yes
hot yoke
Oh wait
sonic crescent
Like the first one gave 101% bonus and the second option has 98% bonus so would that be almost 200%?
foggy zephyr
some speedrunners run Dark Regeneration only
crystal crescent
don't forget ||companion shady's darkness drops||
sonic crescent
Dude... Nice
hot yoke
I thought we were still talking about the +life mirror upgrade
vivid crane
I’m not sure they’re additive like that but the bonuses do stack
patent cedar
Yeah we're not talking about the +50 max health here lol
patent cedar
All good lol
hot yoke
Disregard everything I said
Thought you were arguing for more damage vs undamaged instead of double health
patent cedar
Thick skin I far prefer over high confidence for sure though
hot yoke
Mad sry
vivid crane
God yea
foggy zephyr
do you start with 25 health if you take high confidence with weapons/hammer that reduces max health? 😢
vivid crane
I think so
hot yoke
And then take gy
Hard mode activated
sonic crescent
After I took the second thing from chaos I got oceans bounty from poseidon 😭 if I can just survive I'll rack up a ton of stuff this run - but I'm terrible so will probably ruin it with Meg here
vivid crane
Tbh I don’t take those too much because of how hard some things hit with harder difficulties
hot yoke
Just breathe
vivid crane
Yea runs like that can net you thousands of darkness but they’re difficult because you’re giving up killing power for grinding boons
hot yoke
Depends on your ||Heat Level||
sonic crescent
I mean I haven't beat the game yet so everything still seems mostly easy? But like not ya know but deff not harder?
hot yoke
Eventually you'll be able to tweak that
sonic crescent
Lol I died to meg 🤣
I was so pumped guys
Okay - with the damage resist stuff you get for dying does it max out before 100?
hot yoke
Does what max out at 100
hot yoke
80%
sonic crescent
Got it cool does it make a difference at all?
hot yoke
Never used it
But 80 is huge
hot yoke
Just imagine taking 80% less in your run
sonic crescent
Is it better to just go in and die super quick each time then to get that maxed?
hot yoke
Hazard only does like 5 or 10 self damage I think
foggy zephyr
hazard bomb doesn't really do that much to you
hot yoke
@sonic crescent I recommend to not do that
vivid crane
Eris hazard bomb does low damage to you but it does depend on your attack damage
hot yoke
The farther you get without it the farther you'll get overall
It'll help you when you most need it
severe adder
oh it doesn't do that much but tbh I probably gonna die to boss anyway 
inland orbit
i just got the second death defiance, how many are there?
hot yoke
Three
severe adder
3 total and 1 more from your skelly man
inland orbit
cool
severe adder
if you bring his keepsakes 
inland orbit
thanks
hot yoke
Give him 1 nectar
plain sand
What is the easiest way to bea tmeg
patent cedar
Just learn her patterns I gues
For example she'll crouch when about to dash
She'll kind of jump up when she's about to melee
severe adder
which one has more impact? rarity or level ?
patent cedar
Ignore the other enemies
mild orchid
don't let the goons she summons pile up, take your time
patent cedar
Rarity has a higher base number
mild orchid
oh that's not how I thought you should do it
tepid vale
usually rarity, but it depends on the boon
patent cedar
Well I guess it depends on playstyle
If you take your time then you definitely would be better off taking out the others
mild orchid
you can probably ignore them yeah but I'd have trouble dodging the occasional purple ball on top of meg
patent cedar
That's fair
white dew
the downside of getting more death defies is that doomed runs with bad builds get to go on longer
white dew
I'll be at theseus soon, no suicide necessary
white dew
I picked the zeus boon, hoping to get a lightning attack buff, but instead I got a dash upgrade, and the whole game i've been playing catchup after starting in a bad spot
RNG has just not been kind at all this run
steep pulsar
Hi, there is any way to know what I have done with the weapons ?? I dont remember if I finish the second stage with the fists I dont know how I can see It
white dew
the game tells you to write it down
patent cedar
Yeah the only way to know early in the game really is to remember
maiden narwhal
Just beat the bull of minos
About to fight the champion for the first time :)
Shouldn't bee too hard right ?
white dew
Oh boy
steep pulsar
damn, i will need to reemake all the weapons XD
white dew
Have fun
foggy zephyr
oh boy
patent cedar
Good luck with that
white dew
you're gonna have a fun time lol
patent cedar
Nothing...
foggy zephyr
just enjoy the fight
dawn niche
The only way you would know if you beat it at this point would be in game. When you go to the boss chamber you can see if it still has the reward or something as replacement
cobalt condor
If I have that thing where enemies that have my cast in them take extra damage and I hit them with multiple casts does the damage buffs stack?
main coral
they don't, sorry
cobalt condor
Darn alright thank you
white dew
Damnit
It gave me Patroclus so now I have 3 death defies again
I can't resist trying to make it all the way now
foolish though it is
white dew
gauntlets
boons ar ebad
athena attack, poseidon special, zeus dash
basically nothing salvagable
lavish gazelle
bad runs can still turn around, sometimes you find a missing piece
white dew
the only reasons I've made it this far is brute force
unreal sphinx
Athena attack is pretty good on gauntlets. Makes you hard to hit
opaque cobalt
daring dove
my build only got together at the second to last room in the styx. it was a lucky break to get the one where you regenned life with no death defiance left .. I ended up having to kite redacted with casts while i slowly got my health back haha
white dew
Have fun!
maiden narwhal
This isn't fun
white dew
:)
foggy zephyr
👌
white dew
speaking of that time for me to fight those two
maiden narwhal
I killed the stupid minotaur
Good thing I have the boon where every attack I do gives me 2 hp
Hey I beat it first try
severe adder
does rocket bomb work with aspect of eris?
maiden narwhal
I beat the bull of minos and the guy first try!
maiden narwhal
Good bye cerberus
white dew
took me a while lol
maiden narwhal
Only because of my boon that gives me 2 hp per hit
Do I have to fight cerberus ???
And my hermes dash
lyric forge
Technically speaking ||the answer is no||.
maiden narwhal
I would have shown cerberus no mercy
RATs
WTf
What does cerverus eat
Which gate do I go into
Somebody help me :(
daring dove
its random each time
lyric forge
Spoiler for biome 4, read at own risk: ||you need a sack of Satyr parts for Cerberus, it's gonna be on one of the doors, random which one but never the first you pick||.
maiden narwhal
Ah rats
daring dove
ooh i didnt know that last part, that's useful to know aurelian
lyric forge
I think it's also weighted, 5-sack runs seems to be rarer than 2-sacks. Way rarer. I just don't have numbers to back it up.
daring dove
I tend to go for a defensive style keepsake on the last biome, which is better? ||I have full rank acorn and patrocles shield, which would be better against last boss?||
maiden narwhal
This game is freaking sick
lyric forge
I'd say that the ||acorn|| is the way superior pick, Nuala. ||Spearpoint|| only really works if you eat two hits right after another, which doesn't happen that often.
daring dove
hm. happens more often in elysium tbh 😄
lyric forge
||Spearpoint|| is infinitely more useful in actually getting to the final boss though, that's also a consideration.
||Acorn|| does nothing before the fight at all.
daring dove
spoiler
lyric forge
That is a spoiler.
daring dove
redacted
daring dove
So far I have less than 50% success rate when I actually get to redacted
way less
_<
lyric forge
It's cool, even getting to the final boss is an achievement in and of itself.
daring dove
which is insane, I still struggle with them if I dont have the right setup :p
lyric forge
Yeah, the Heroes bonked me in the face too the first couple of times.
maiden narwhal
I want to give my ambrosia to dusa
daring dove
I notice I tend to prefer a fairly specific boon set ... aphro on attack and call, athena on dash. the others are a bit more flexible... cast can be demeter, artemis, poseidon, special is often ares. If I dont get athena dash I'm not a happy camper
lyric forge
I played that way a lot too, and I still notice being more squish if I don't have Athena dash, but honestly Aphro or Poseidon also have very very good dashes.
hallow bane
is there a way i can check my current affinity level with the gods?
lyric forge
Artemis too if you have a build that can make use of the dash strike.
daring dove
I struggle a bit with dash strike tbh.
lyric forge
You mean the heart level you are at? The codex has that.
daring dove
Is a dash strike always more damage than just an attack?
hallow bane
where do i find the codex?
lyric forge
If you play with keyboard press C.
hallow bane
thanks for the help
lyric forge
I don't actually know how dash strike measures up damage wise with regular attacks, kinda depends on the weapon I think.
I'm usually dashing like a madman anyway.
daring dove
I tend to always be dashing AWAY from folks instead of to them
so dash strikes are sometimes a bit rough to get in
man. my and upper arm is aching from using a controller too much >_>
lyric forge
With fists and sword in particular I tend to be dash striking a ton, rail and maybe spear as well sometimes.
serene smelt
Wow I got to near the end of Elysium and decided to "borrow"some coin.
||Charon absolutely wrecked me through 3 death defiance and full HP. Didn't even know his boss fight was a thing!||
lyric forge
The lesson of that is ||be careful who you screw with, the boatman is not a joke||.
As with the final boss once you learn his patterns he is pretty doable but he has a ridiculous chonk on that ||paddle||, so borrow at your own risk.
daring oracle
How do you do that?
lyric forge
Do what?
daring oracle
||”Borrow” from Charon||
lyric forge
I don't know if a certain trigger has to happen for it to show up, but in that little ||gated area behind Charon|| there will occasionally be a ||sack of gold with a skull on it||, you can try to pick that up. Be prepared for pain.
Also worth noting that this thing will ONLY be there in ||the mid shops, never in the last shop before a boss||.
lyric forge
Not sure if certain triggers need to be completed for that option to appear.
daring oracle
That explains why I’ve never seen it. I never pick his door unless it’s the only option
lyric forge
I always pick the shop unless either the alternative is something I really want or I don't have enough obols on me to at least afford a boon.
daring oracle
The guaranteed doors for me are Hammer, Nectar, Poseidon, and Athena(? I think that’s the one with the shield and reflect abilities). I also MOSTLY pick the two Boon doors unless the other door is a must.
Oh, and Hermès
fervent thistle
beat my first run
just so happens to also be the run where i first find a duo boon, actually getting two of em
ornate remnant
@fervent thistle congrats! #h1-victory-boasting if you'd like
daring dove
i almost always go for the coin door ..
well unless theres a boon i really want. but between darkness and coin? coin baby
fervent thistle
Is there a way to see previous run histories?
ornate remnant
@lyric forge @potent merlin @daring oracle for that to show up, you || need to defeat the final boss at least once. After that, it's a 22% chance in each mid-biome shop ||
@fervent thistle yes, but you need to unlock it
potent merlin
Well that explains it!
fervent thistle
that's kinda dumb but oh well
ornate remnant
It's a part of something else—it makes sense thematically
daring oracle
@daring dove Hermès has a boon where you get coin every time you complete a room. Around 10-20 depending on rarity and level
fervent thistle
ah yes i have to fight a boss multiple times probably to unlock a feature that should be there from the start
daring dove
yeah that is a must get
I always try to gamble chaos into giving me extra coin % too .. i use all my fated authority on that
😄
daring oracle
There’s a storyline quest that you have to do first before you can unlock that spoiler
silk hearth
Ah, the sweet allure of money.
daring oracle
I usually have enough coin by the Cerberus shops to buy everything without doing coin doors 🤷♂️
silk hearth
Including the very expensive one?
silk hearth
Because I usually have to grab one or too money modifiers to clear out the shop completely.
So it doesn't seem possible on every run.
ornate remnant
I definitely don't clear out the shop every run
potent merlin
I’ve been starting runs with the ||coin purse||
silk hearth
Same, and the ||%obol per cleared biome|| from the mirror.
potent merlin
I always take a shop if I have at least 150o. Only thing that I might take otherwise is a hammer. I love me some hammers.
silk hearth
It's still not enough sometimes, if you don't get a money increasing boon from chaos, poseidon or hermes.
foggy zephyr
starting with a god's keepsake works for me, you can always take coin purse later on
ornate remnant
I think the most Obol I've had at the end was about 5k?
silk hearth
But then you miss out on that sweet bonus after tartarus.
(if it isn't clear, I'm mostly doing it because I like to clear out the final shop)
ornate remnant
Valid
daring oracle
Huh. Nifty. That fight against ||Charon|| was pretty fun. I probably should have waited till the 2nd or 3rd areas, though. Oh well, this run will suffer.
ornate remnant
Hey, || you beat him in Tartarus ||?
silk hearth
I did that once before, too. ||My strategy was to cheese all the projectiles with the shield block.||
2nd or 3rd biomes is easier though, definitely.
No need for cheese.
daring oracle
Yup. My bow right now is REALLY good.
It does.... 11(?) homing arrows
And deflects on specials
foggy zephyr
can you deflect those projectiles? I swear I always get hit
ornate remnant
Some, iirc
daring oracle
I dashed through em
fervent thistle
do i have to beat runs with heat to get story progression
silk hearth
No.
daring oracle
Not that I’ve seen, but I did for resources
silk hearth
For the most part at least.
daring oracle
Some of the heat is pretty easy to deal with
fervent thistle
heat runs only give you the extra titan blood and stuff, right?
silk hearth
Essentially, yes.
daring oracle
Like ||first hit against enemies are negated|| or ||the bosses being upgraded||
silk hearth
And bragging rights.
ornate remnant
Ah, || heat is generally considered a spoiler, because you need to beat the final boss to unlock it. You can just tag out keywords, don't need to delete messages ||
daring oracle
This is going to be a good run. 900+ coins when arriving at Elysium
sonic crescent
In ||temple of styx do you have the option to go down every hall on the left?|| I've only been here once
sonic crescent
But I have the choice to do all of them if I want to? I'm not forced to do whatever is next after I find the right door?
serene smelt
Is 15 keys for titan blood a good deal? I haven't finished unlocking the mirror
daring oracle
Correct
sonic crescent
I would say no and say unlocking the mirror is better - but I'm pretty new to the game
daring oracle
It is a good deal, but early on work on the mirror
serene smelt
alright cool, thanks
daring oracle
I would take that in a heartbeat at this point in the game when keys are just for getting nectar
ornate remnant
@daring oracle (late-game) || there is a single use for them late game, that requires a lot ||
silk hearth
Yup, it's a really good deal if you don't need the keys, but it slows down your early progression.
daring oracle
@ornate remnant ||how much is a lot?||
ornate remnant
|| I think 100? I don't remember for sure ||
|| it's intended to be very late game ||
foggy zephyr
it's like ||200?||
ornate remnant
Could ask in #h1-story-discussion , someone there would know
sonic crescent
Oh gosh... Wait... I found a thing what do I do 😭
daring oracle
That’s pretty easy to get due to the exchange for the building currency. Okay, I’ll keep that in mind
sonic crescent
How do I make a pic spoiler?
ornate remnant
|| around the link ||
sonic crescent
Oh jk we can't post pics here
sonic crescent
||okay in the temple of styx went down my second door there's the thing for zeus boon and a giant bag??? Do I take the weird bag? Can I take both? What do I do ||
Send halp
ornate remnant
|| You can and need to take both ||
sonic crescent
In any order?
ornate remnant
|| pay attention to the character dialogue, and no, no particular order ||
silk hearth
Order doesn't matter.
ornate remnant
Fountain*
sonic crescent
Used the cauldron
Okay so now I have the thing I need but can still do the other door options for more stuff?
Or should I not?
silk hearth
||Depends on whether you think the risk is worth it. You won't get free healing like that again.||
sonic crescent
One is aphrodite, one is gold, and one is more health I'm at 220 health currently
daring oracle
Depends on your confidence in your build and skills right now
mild orchid
when you ||next interact with Cerbie to give him the satyr sack|| the other paths close so choose wisely
silk hearth
We can't really make that decision for you.
daring oracle
||final boss is next||
sonic crescent
Hmm ... Well if I take the health one I get more health and will probably get the 10 gold I need to buy another boon?
ornate remnant
You'll definitely get that Obol
sonic crescent
So I think I'll do that? It's not a boss fight either so should be easy
mild orchid
account for the health you might lose yeah
ornate remnant
If you're confident with your build, go for it
daring oracle
There are mid-boss fights down some paths
ornate remnant
which are easier imo but that's not a discussion for here
silk hearth
||Except one of them, which is a royal pain, imo.||
ornate remnant
lol
mild orchid
||Vermin|| is worse than the final for me sometimes
ornate remnant
Mm, depends on the build, like most things. Still, I think that's a discussion for #h1-builds-and-combat
mild orchid
it's maybe the most build-dependent fight in difficulty
sonic crescent
Okay... Wish me luck I guess? I'm terrified 😅
ornate remnant
go for it!
You got this!
and don't look back ^.^ Focus on the fight, don't keep tabbing back here. It'll make it harder
silk hearth
And if not, you can always look forward to a pleasant greeting from good boy Hypnos.
ornate remnant
dodge timing
don't dash attack unless you really think you're not going to get hit
dashes give you i-frames, you lose 'em when you swing
silk hearth
Hide behind pillars for some attacks. Like against the previous boss.
mild orchid
if you have a dash that does damage use it to ||clear the green pots efficiently||
sonic crescent
Ohmg I did it!!! He didn't even hit me!!!
ornate remnant
woohoo!
jolly quartz
How exactly do I make use of the sixth weapon? Every run I've done with it it's felt fairly weak.
ornate remnant
@jolly quartz things that work off attack speed
Zeus, Dio
Then high damage on your special
silent wagon
I feel the same, I think attack speed plus hangover works well
sonic crescent
Oh 8ll remove it!
void mural
is there good educative twitch streamer/youtube channel to learn from?
ornate remnant
I think Haelian does some guides?
sonic crescent
It took me 40 minutes?? Ooofff
sonic crescent
Is there a way to show my build off?
silk hearth
Screenshot.
void mural
thx
mild orchid
you'll ||unlock the function to view run history buy buying a certain thing from the contractor|| eventually
ornate remnant
you can also click on the boons in the menu to rearrange them
old skiff
hi
ornate remnant
heyo!
jolly quartz
Gotcha. What's the opinion on Dem?
old skiff
I got the game a while ago and decided to join
ornate remnant
Welcome!
and Squiggle, I think most people like Dem
didn't get used to it myself
old skiff
Any tips?
ornate remnant
ahh @old skiff || final boss name is a spoiler, please edit your message||
ornate remnant
yeah ^.^"
old skiff
almost beat the game but got destroyed by final boss
jolly quartz
Her boons haven't felt super helpful to me. Feels like you need to get a lot of them online before it's all that effective.
silk hearth
Making enemies slower seems super useful to me. Also her cast is pretty good for dps.
mild orchid
y'know technically [redacted] is also a spoiler lol
ornate remnant
you definitely want internal synergy though
yeah, but no one will notice it as such
and Sword, dodge timing is your friend
learn what signs the boss has for their attacks
and when the attack itself hits
ornate remnant
that's going to get your further than anything else
old skiff
I’ve been using the lucky tooth
ornate remnant
honestly, anything--Aphrodite is good, because both high damage + the weak condition
I'd suggest Acorn instead, personally
if you have it maxed out
light crown
One question <---------- I'm on my my 3rd clear of the game, after you kill the boss a panel open up and some boons are "marked" with a small simbol, you can choose to put it over different one, but I can't figure out what it does 🙂 , can you solve this mistery, please?
ornate remnant
@light crown just cosmetic
silk hearth
Have you unlocked swapping keepsakes between biomes @old skiff ?
ornate remnant
ye
jolly quartz
I'll have to try her out some more then I suppose.