#h1-for-new-players

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dawn berry
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Ok, thanks

rich panther
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how to get the house contractore to fix the lounge

ornate remnant
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you have to || pay for him to do things by talking to him ||

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@rich panther

rich panther
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what do i have to buy

ornate remnant
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|| various lounge items, I think it's a certain number, not certain things ||

rich panther
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do rugs count

ornate remnant
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I think so

rich panther
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okay

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asking bc they are cheap and they can be changed

ornate remnant
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hm, just a sec

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|| a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor. ||

rich panther
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ty

ornate remnant
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o7

rich panther
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o7

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are the repairs also included

ornate remnant
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I believe so

rich panther
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how to do gift of the song

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nvm i just got it

ornate remnant
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Report that with f10, lmao

sly vigil
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Beautiful

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Would be a fun mode

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Delirium

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You fight the UI instead of enemies

median totem
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The Underworld gets so upset that it itself starts to fight you.

rapid pagoda
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It really is in "Chaos"

pulsar frigate
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it's a random boon

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👍

tender tangle
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so uh...based on the limited info i can find by searching the web, it seems i should have unlocked the 4th aspect on at least one weapon by now, but all that info seems to be 6 months to a year or so old. what gives, how do i get them? the event that should occur, isn't.

sly vigil
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mild spoiler, of course, but instructions are there.

tender tangle
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that's exactly what i mean - i've met the requirements for the spear and it isn't giving it to me

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😦

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guess i'll just try and get some more blood and unlock more things, meh

tender tangle
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lol it finally worked, only took going beyond what the requirement is supposed to be by a bit...oh well

gray haven
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The requirements in the pinned message are correct. You probably just needed to get through other dialogue or finish another run first. That's usually the case when something hasn't shown up yet that you meet the requirements for.

small schooner
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What makes a rare version of a boon better than a higher level one?
Since the NPC in Asphodel offers a choice between upgrading the rarity of two, or levelling up four, I'm assuming rarity has to be better, but from what I can see they both just increase one numerical aspect of the boon

(Probably the same one? Haven't kept track fully)

pastel cipher
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some boons can't be levelled up, however they can increase in rarity; for example chaos and hermes boons

small schooner
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Hmm, I see
But generally does that make the pom porridge the best choice if you have a lot of boons since any dish just picks randomly?

uneven slate
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Depends. If you have good odds to increase the rarity of your core boon (attack or special in most cases), then it is worth to take that. Because rarer boons also scale better with later level ups.

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If your amount of boons is already very large by the time you reach Eurydice, taking the pom porridge yields better results.

small schooner
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Alright, thanks

uneven slate
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Also, the Ambrosia Delight is the more reliable way of two to get a boon to Heroic rarity, which cannot be found by regular means.

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(The other way are exchanges, but that can only be done with attack, special, cast, dash or call boons).

gray haven
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Because rarer boons also scale better with later level ups.
That's not true. Rarity and pom level are additive.

uneven slate
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Doesn't rarity serve as a multiplier?

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At least, that's how I understood the wiki tables, but you certainly know better than me on this field, with your spreadsheets and all.

gray haven
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Yes, but the level and rarity multipliers are added up.

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An increase in rarity typically gives a greater bonus than any pom level. The bonus from pom levels will also decrease with every level up to a minimum. (E.g., the damage from Lightning Strike will always increase by at least 1.)

patent grotto
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I want to ask questions but I'm not sure what is considered spoilers or not :(

ornate remnant
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some boons can't be levelled up, however they can increase in rarity; for example chaos and hermes boons

To clarify as well, there is no way to change the rarity of a chaos boon once you've gotten it, and they also cannot gain levels (except by stacking two of the same)

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@patent grotto then you can ask with spoiler tags ( || like this || )

patent grotto
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Ok :)

leaden whale
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What are some good controllers that I can buy? I’ve only used KB/mouse until now.

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Been eyeing on 8bitdo SN30 Pro+, looking for some other suggestions 😆

solid talon
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I use a normal x-box controller and I am happy with it.

ornate remnant
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Haven't tried it yet with this game, but I've had good experience with the Switch Pro controller for other games on Steam

leaden whale
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(Oops thought I was in general off topic channel my bad)

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Ah I see

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Lots of options

solid talon
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Switch pro is a bit too small for my hands, but this is only my problem^^´

leaden whale
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interested to see how it will play with a controller 🙂

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Getting used to controllers will def be a big transition I’m sure

solid talon
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Hm. I didnt play with M&K before, so i can only say, that i got used to the controlls really quick.

leaden whale
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Yeah we’ll see how quickly my hands will let me adjust to the changes zaglol

chrome jackal
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I way prefer a controller over M+KB

jaunty maple
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I’m a huge fan of the PS4 controller for all my controller needs - I’ve never owned a PlayStation but it feels like the most responsible and most comfortable by far for me (average size hands, grew up on Dreamcast/Xbox)

leaden whale
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Thanks for the suggestion guys 🙂

rough tundra
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I also use an Xbox controller for games like this, I’m a huge fan of the way it feels

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I’ve also become really fond of having a rubber grip cover on my controllers, just makes it more comfortable for me because my hands tend do sweat when I play a lot and that helps greatly

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Silicone I guess

balmy wigeon
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I tried playing with an xbox controller and switched to keyboard since using dash attack was somewhat inconvenient

rotund linden
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I've been playing this on PS4 pad.

Kinda wanna try it with my arcade stick or hitbox.

sly vigil
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hitbox would be dope lol

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I am here just using my Xbox controller

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but I imagine most controller with one shoulder button would do

leaden whale
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Yeah just gave it a go with my wife's switch controller, not bad. I'll def need time to get used to it lol

frigid fern
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so just escaped for the 6th time and i only just realized you have to click on the weapon aspects to actually change it and grant the abilities

sly vigil
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-.-

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welcome to the world of aspects

solid talon
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Rip

frigid fern
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is there a way to see a complete list of boons etc in-game?

ornate remnant
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nope

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we've asked for one though xD

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there is the wiki if you'd like

spare marsh
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Just swap to another aspect?

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Zagreus aspect is always going to be an option.

ornate remnant
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well, @random shale you can just click on the aspect to switch back

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you don't need to pay titan blood to switch

spare marsh
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It doesn't cost titan blood to just eqip Zag aspect.

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Or any aspect you've unlocked.

jaunty maple
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but also, Achilles is so fun! dash through, spam cast at them or hit them with backstabs

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and you can call back the spear with the attack button

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delete that immediately haha

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this is not the spoiler channel

dry kernel
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oh shoot

jaunty maple
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err.. both messages haha

dry kernel
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20 HOURS AND I STILL HAVEN'T WON THE GAME

jaunty maple
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you can use "||" to make spoilers, but I recommend talking in spoiler general or saying "the last boss"

dry kernel
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rip

jaunty maple
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||and don't mention the second phase either, though I'd wish I'd known about that when I first got him there haha||

dry kernel
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just letting out some frustration

jaunty maple
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yeah, that sucks! which weapon(s) you using?

dry kernel
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||yeah same lol||

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i almost won with the fists

jaunty maple
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I love the fists! just won with them a second ago, though I find I need a good cast cuz they're super low range

dry kernel
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woah nice!

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I ran the demeter cast

ornate remnant
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also, 20 hours and having not beaten the game is quite reasonable

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this is a hard game

dry kernel
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I get tired and resort to randomly smashing buttons

jaunty maple
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take breaks, drink water!

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best advice for any hard game

dry kernel
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which leads me to my demise

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hmmm def

jaunty maple
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though in this one, not long breaks, or you'll forget what your build is haha

ornate remnant
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I recommend shorter sessions, only a few runs depending on how long your runs are

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keeps frustration down :3

jaunty maple
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yeah, no more than 2 runs at a time, I usually do 1

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then I do monster train or... "real life"

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I love the idea of the Demeter cast, but I find it soooo hard to use well

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I currently much prefer the burst of Artemis, Zeus, etc

dry kernel
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I usually just spam it

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the demeter cast

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also it adds on well with one of demeter's boon

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something about adding attack damage when you have no red crystal things

jaunty maple
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I LOVE that thing, if it works the way I imagine it, but since I just always spam my casts it doesn't really matter which I have haha

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Stygian Blood (if that's the +50% damage against people with your bloodstones in them) is radddd

dry kernel
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the boon adds like 3% or something

jaunty maple
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I think it goes to 30% if it's epic

dry kernel
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eh I forgot, I'll try a demeter run tomorrow nd see if I can get that

jaunty maple
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have you got much of your mirror maxed out?

dry kernel
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yeah I did

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just not the olympianw favor and the other epic one

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everything else I believe is maxed

ornate remnant
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Darren Korb and Ashley Barrett

jaunty maple
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ahh, yeah I won my first run the same time I got my third Defiance... and ending up not needing it, the skill grows fast

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your problem seems to be the panic above all else - maybe try more spear?

patent grotto
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does anyone have any tips for the bow? especially in rooms with lots of enemies I struggle more than I should :/

midnight ledge
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any specifc aspect ?

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the base bow special is quite good for clearing

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can add zeus on top

gray haven
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Use dash-strikes a lot. They charge faster than normal attacks.

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And practice doing Power Shots reliably.

high breach
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reposition yourself constantly, your range is your biggest advantage

lethal rain
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^. A lot of enemies become predictable once you break the close distance with them, as they start slowly following you

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Obviously not quite applicable in small rooms, but even there a slight gap may be the key difference

warm idol
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Can I ask what does dark foresight in the mirror gives the chance for? I mean there is a synbol but what does it mean?

warm idol
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I see, thank you. And this is a very nice graphical explanation

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is it from reddit or wikia page?

spare marsh
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It's from us.

pastel cipher
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Made by sparrow, one of the mods here

spare marsh
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How does Aspect of Hestia interact with Spread Fire hammer?

stoic zephyr
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the empowered shot is unaffected by spread fire entirely

marsh ether
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In general, Hestia's empowered shot ignores hammers and boons

tepid vale
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empowered shot does not ignore boons. It deals bonus damage and/or applies status effects

pulsar frigate
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unless it's ricochet or piercing (or maybe explosive?), you're better off taking special hammers or not even taking hammers at all on hestia

leaden whale
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so any useful tips on using the sheild or rail?

ornate remnant
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Shield bull rush is very powerful

pulsar frigate
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zag shield loves attack/dash attack builds, but i wouldn't use special on it

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chaos is special-based, and zeus uses a mixed playstyle

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i usually build either bull rush or attack/dash attack, not both, but it can work

leaden whale
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and for the rail is using effects that do extra damage for the special like doom or hangover any good?

midnight ledge
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hangover doesnt really stack at all

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weak is nicer

pulsar frigate
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you want the gods that have separate damage sources (zeus, ares, dio, support fire from artemis) on rail attack

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zeus particularly

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the special is your big damage ability, so use damage modifier gods on it (artemis, demeter, aphrodite, athena, poseidon)

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when i play rail, i incorporate both attack and special into my style

lyric forge
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Ares only really works with the Dire Misfortune Tier 2 boon on the Rail attack, as otherwise it doesn't really benefit from the rapid attack speed.

pulsar frigate
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you want something to do in between reloading

leaden whale
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ok thanks

warm idol
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there seems to be a hovering circle under the boons, does it have any significance or just visual? (it seems we can't upload screenshots here)

ornate remnant
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I think just visual

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You can upload to imgur and link here, that's allowed

sly vigil
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Hello Ms. Iron Swan

leaden whale
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yeah thanks for the advice

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a special that has high damage is good

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for the rail

tame violet
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why is dad such a douche?

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also, do any of you guys run with custom control layouts?

sly vigil
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I do

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I use A for attack, B for dash, X for cast, and Y for special.

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if you play the Witcher 3, it's a similar control scheme

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also rebind your rail reload to LB, the Codex can go somewhere else, like how often do you even open it lol

tame violet
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oh yeah thats the exact same button I rebound to rail reload

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I tried putting dash on rb as well but couldnt get used to it

leaden whale
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i use keyboard and mouse should i swap to controler?

ivory ocean
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there's no clear consensus on which is better, it's all about what feels most comfortable to you. personally, i prefer controller because i find it easier to dash

tame violet
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I kept walking into lava on kb+m 🤷‍♂️

sly vigil
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i use keyboard and mouse should i swap to controler?
there is no strictly better option. both mkv and controller do equally well, even at absurdly difficult level. i do think that controllers are a bit more popular though.

midnight ledge
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Imo it depends a bit on the weapon

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Keyboard and mouse for rail special

stoic zephyr
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yeah, the main awkward things for controller are definitely rail special and trippy shot aiming

velvet tendon
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Eris rail worth investing?

sly vigil
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One of the weaker rail imo

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But it will do if you are really into it

spare marsh
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It's fine.

weak dirge
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it's fun with cluster bombs

pulsar frigate
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it's a global damage buff, so it's versatile

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works with zeus bolts, hangover, support fire, your casts, etc

main zealot
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Hi all, I just started playing Hades two days ago so I thought I'd put this into #h1-for-new-players.
Yesterday I was battling Hydra and already got her down to a sliver of health when my xbox controller batteries died, as did Zag. shadedisgruntled
It happens, I'm not mad, I was severely under-levelled (if that's the word) anyways and will take her/him/it (?) on again later today.
It did raise a question though:
Is it possible to implement a feature that the game detects when your controller is disconnected and automatically pauses the game? I have seen this feature in other games, like Dead Cells for example. It would be great to have it in Hades as in this type of games most times one hit can make all the difference between beating a boss or being killed.

gray haven
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That's something you should post in #hades-feedback. Check the pinned messages there for posting rules and for how to get permission to post in the channel. squirtnya

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And hi!

main zealot
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Got it, thanks!

leaden whale
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So i noticed you can dash and your attack can hit the other way is it useful in combat?

ornate remnant
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very

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you can dash away from an enemy while still hitting them

velvet tendon
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is there friendly fire against Theseus?

spare marsh
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Yes.

velvet tendon
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Damnit

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0-4 with Theseus

acoustic peak
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I haven’t noticed any friendly fire at all ever because the fights are so chaotic thanthink

gray haven
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There's no friendly fire. He can't hit you, and he doesn't take damage.

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Oh wait, I read Thanatos lol.

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Nevermind me.

midnight ledge
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wait

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can you let theseus spear hit asterius ?

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@spare marsh

obsidian locust
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You kind of can?

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He wont normally hit him though

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It has to be through charm or deflect if I'm not mistaken

sly vigil
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I heard deflected spear can also do that.

velvet tendon
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that must have been what i saw

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i had Athena's attack boon

languid glen
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wait

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giving up doesn't end your win streak?

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now I'm wondering. Is there any way to switch the weapon with dark thirst on it - without completing a run?

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completing -> as in dying or whatever

sterile solar
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Just bait asterius charge into theseus, ez residentzag

candid nimbus
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Don't think there is a way to switch dark thirst except fully attempt a run --> dying/clearing

jaunty maple
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and you have to actually USE the dark thirst weapon, right?

pulsar frigate
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no

jaunty maple
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oh okay, just rolled the same one twice then?

ornate remnant
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Yup

jaunty maple
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neat. thanks

tender thistle
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hello, i am new to Hades (bought it yesterday) and am super in love with it!
currently i am grinding on "default / standard" but some guides i watched mentioned "hell mode" , should i switch restart with hell mode before i grind even more?

sly vigil
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In short, no

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I can go into details with spoilers

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But the difference between Hell Mode and Normal Mode is fairly minimal

tender thistle
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nah i am good. Will keep on defautl then, until i get bored i guess (- : (didnt even escape once so a lot to learn still)
bonus questions: i got like 5 titan blood but didnt find anything on how to use it yet, should i just progress "the story" or am i mssing something?

sly vigil
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Keep playing. It will be revealed soon enough.

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My advice is to try and be flexible with weapons

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If you do so you are well on your way to see what they do

tender thistle
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sweet! thx a lot. Yeah i try to switch it up a bit but i definitely have my favourites which i enjoy a lot more than others

sly vigil
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Yeah that's great. I mean flexible as in don't just go for a single weapon alone

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Try everything at least once ;)

tender thistle
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try and .. progress at least to .. or just try?

sly vigil
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Just try

tender thistle
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thx ❤️

sly vigil
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Np!

dry kernel
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my hatred for that tiny vermin grow stronger every day I play

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the thought of it plagues my mind

velvet tendon
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which ones?

candid nimbus
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One can only experience the nightmare for themselves

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There is a specific ||Tiny Vermin up in Styx||

narrow yacht
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I met the thing today

velvet tendon
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Final boss time

pulsar frigate
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good luck!

velvet tendon
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Wouldn't be surprised if I died here

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Yep

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Acorn op though

jaunty maple
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I don't really understand how to use the special of the fists

topaz epoch
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I usually use it at the up of combos

high breach
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dash strike with it

sand escarp
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my experience:
for high dmg, choose Dionysus or Ares
for buff, debuff, choose Athena (or Aphrodite, Demeter)

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Drunken Strike - Dionysus is suitable for high rate of fire

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like Adamant Rail attack

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Drunken Flourish - Dionysus is also suitable for high rate of fire, like Coronacht || the last Aspect || Special

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for weapon like Varatha the Eternal Spear, Ares Curse of Pain is suitable for Spear's special

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I almost always choose Divine Dash - Athena's deflecting dash

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always on the move, don't stand still

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Eternal Spear || the last Aspect || is the 2nd best after Adamant Rail || the last Aspect ||

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for that spear aspect, you hold attack for a short time, release attack button, you'll see || Serpent Slash ||

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it ||heals Zag 1 HP/hit||

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BTW, don't hold || the attack button until max ||

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unless you fight || weak enemies ||

hidden mortar
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is there some info on what the outcome is on room reward changing?

lethal rain
hidden mortar
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thanks

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Yeah well i ment which possiblities are available for certain rewards

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like when there is Dyonisis which rewards are possible to appear

gray haven
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@sand escarp the hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel. Please use spoiler tags. squirtnya

sand escarp
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Ok

ornate remnant
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For reference, you can use pipes || like this || to spoiler tag text || like this ||

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Much easier than censoring every name

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And also because you want to tag || the abilities, including healing Zag with the spear aspect ||

sand escarp
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Ok

ornate remnant
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Thank you for understanding ^.^

tender thistle
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hello again, is there any way to see how far i have progressed with a weapon without starting a run with it? i lost which bosses i managed to kill with which weapon

uneven slate
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A way to know will be unlocked later, after fully beating a run.

leaden whale
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any way i can get more diamonds other than the broker

median totem
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Yes. Though you'll have to defeat the final boss once for that.

uneven slate
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Or buy them in the temple shop.

median totem
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That's.... Not usually the best method.

uneven slate
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It sure isn't, but worth mentioning.

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At an early stage, saving up obol during a run to buy the diamond or a titan blood is a valid method if one gets walled by the final boss, but wants to make a few vital upgrades.

cunning oracle
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Surely if you are getting destroyed by the final boss, saving that much gold would be equally challenging if not more challenging

marble vigil
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Hi friends! Any guide por new players? i've been like 4 days playing and i just got to the minotaur in the elysium and he deleted me

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I feel like i dont get much further every run

uneven slate
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There's a few good beginner guides in the Steam community if you are looking for easily accessible and compiled information. It may be outdated in places.

velvet tendon
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something to keep in mind is that while darkness, gemstones, keys and nectar are physical examples of progression, your skills also improve after each run

shadow night
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Hello, I'm not really sure if I should place this question in tech support, but since I'm quite new to the game (just under 50 hours in)... I thought I'd ask here
Regarding Boss encounter number 2 in game, there is a significant delay in attack speed, music, and everything just slows down, even the main character...as if I'm playing in slo-mo.

This varies on each run, however. I think I'm on my...uhh... 61st death by now, having cleared multiple times, and I just want to ask if it's a normal thing or should I use F10 to report an issue, or it may be an issue with my computer specs itself. It only happens with Boss encounter number 2 😔

uneven slate
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That sounds like a framerate issue. Do ask in tech support. I think some players solved that issue by toggling VSync. F10 whenever you see something unusual like that, too!

shadow night
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Thank you! I'll make note of it during my next run if it happens again

lunar fossil
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I'm slightly confused on how to get the ||aspect of guan yu||, I understand you need to ||spend 6 blood|| and ||beat the game with the spear||

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does it say that you can spend ||the blood|| on any weapon or only on spear

velvet tendon
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first off Hidden aspects are spoilers

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you can use "||" on either side to spoil text

ornate remnant
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@lunar fossil || hidden Aspects || are spoilers, please tag them (and most of that message, actually) with || two bars on either side like this ||

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I can tell you that what your heard is not correct

tender thistle
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is there any kind of hint if the encounter has a fishing spot? or do i have to search the area after every fight?

ornate remnant
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You should hear a ding after you kill the last enemy

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Sometimes Zag will also comment on it

tender thistle
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yeah i read about the ding but there is a ding after very fight
but just now (after asking) i heard it for the very first time and it is very distinct and now i know what to "look for" thx

ornate remnant
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o7

velvet tendon
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more like a dock bell sound

velvet tendon
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damn, got out once, didnt clear, now it seems like i cant get past Asphodel now

hearty basin
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This is probably a silly question but is there any way to view all the boons I currently have active on me during a run?

uneven slate
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Press B

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(on keyboard).

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Controllers probably have a different button assigned to it.

hearty basin
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Many thanks

pastel cipher
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Controller (xbox one) is the select button

velvet tendon
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this does not pause the game

tender thistle
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is there some kind of trick to fishing? or are rarer fish rly rly rare? cause i am only getting like 3 of the same over and over

uneven slate
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You can get Perfect Catches with good timing, which improves the odds of getting rarer fish.

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There's three tiers of fish in each area, and the highest tier can't be caught with regular Catch.

tender thistle
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i see, gonna look up about perfect timing thx!

ornate remnant
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Fishing:
(time in seconds)

perfect catch (0-0.34) guarantees a rare and gives a 5% chance at legendary

a "fast" catch (0.34-0.68) has a 5% chance of rare, no legendary

a normal catch (0.68-1) will get you a common fish

after 1 second, no fish

tender thistle
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is there any feedback ingame about how fast i was?

lethal rain
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It will say perfect catch if you get one

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Nothing for fast catch sadly

tender thistle
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got a prophecy ingame with the wording "very rare fisih" does this refer to "legendary" from above?

lethal rain
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Yeah

velvet tendon
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Game saves after every boime yes?

ornate remnant
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after every room

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look in the top right

velvet tendon
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Cause i bluescreened during transition between Asphodel and Elysium

ornate remnant
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okay, it won't load right there

tender thistle
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sometimes the god orbs "ping" two times when activating , i thought this would indicate some kind of rarity of the boons but i guess not, does it indicate anything else?

faint umbra
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it indicates they have new dialogue you havent seen yet

tender thistle
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thx!

acoustic peak
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It will say perfect catch if you get one
I’ve literally never seen that. Am I just too slow? 🥺

ornate remnant
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oof, possibly. I can recommend some tricks to catch it faster?

acoustic peak
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Or maybe I just don’t read it because im focused on the fish

ornate remnant
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also possible

acoustic peak
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You told me about covering the float. That actually helps

ornate remnant
#

o7

acoustic peak
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I catch scuffers every time in Styx so I’m probably doing it right and just not getting lucky

tender thistle
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is it possible to not choose any boon when offered?

ornate remnant
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nope

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you have to pick one

tender thistle
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man , every run without the shield weapon is a struggle 😢

ornate remnant
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you'll keep getting better ^.^

robust kettle
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Don't worry! the more you get used to each weapon the better you'll be! just gotta get through those learning curves! shadesmile

acoustic peak
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Got to learn the attack patterns for the bosses, and when to dash

jaunty maple
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do attack boons influence dash attacks?

pulsar frigate
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yes

spare marsh
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Yep, generally.

pulsar frigate
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only hammers differentiate between attack and dash attacks (usually, anyways...)

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in all other cases, dash attacks are considered attacks

spare marsh
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Yeah, hammers are the main exception that comes to mind.

jaunty maple
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holy crap. looks like it, hidden spear aspect + triple dash strike + artemis dash AND artemis special seems like a lot of damage

spare marsh
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Yup.

jaunty maple
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-20% dash distance is something I'm not good at though, is there any useful advice?

spare marsh
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Uh. Try to get more dashes 😄

jaunty maple
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haha

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I often do, thanks 😛

spare marsh
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There really isn't too much to do about it 😄

jaunty maple
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yeah, I'm... quite terrible with it, take a heck of a lot more damage than I should

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and having half health on top of it... this run may not go all the way :p

unique tendon
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Hi im new 🙂 I am currently playing the spear and bow as my main weapons (will try the eagle thingy later) but I cant pass || thesis and minotaur boss fight on the third floor || and I think its because I dont know how to build correctly. Is there any guide that can help me out?

ornate remnant
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Welcome! There isn't a strict guide (other than us :P), but we can give you some solid pointers. With the spear, you want to get a strong boon for your special, and when fighting || Theseus and Asterius, try and focus down Asterius first ||. Aphrodite, Demeter, and Poseidon are all good bets for your special, and Athena for your dash and/or attack is also good

unique tendon
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Thanks ❤️

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Which hammer upgrade should I pick first 🙂 ?

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For spear

ornate remnant
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Charged Flourish is good

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lots of damage

pulsar frigate
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for bow, you want to rely on dash strikes, as they charge faster and keep you mobile

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the special is good for spreading status effects around the room, but by itself it isn't great

unique tendon
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Sounds good

pulsar frigate
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twin shot is great single target, triple + chain is great crowd control (and gives a little aim forgiveness), explosive is slow but does a lot of damage (and you don't need to charge it up all the way)

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perfect shot, point-blank, and distant are personal preferance

unique tendon
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I got this game two months ago but didnt get into it because I was not in the mood

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Now I do 2-3 runs everyday 😄

ornate remnant
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nice!

unique tendon
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Its a really fun game

ornate remnant
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yeah :D

tender thistle
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got 7 of the big ambrosia bottles and still dont know what they are for. Am i missing some kind of progress elsewhere or should i just play on?

uneven slate
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Ambrosia is used for improving relationships after reaching the nectar maximum, and upgrading certain gifts you will receive from a select few characters.

tender thistle
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i see! thx a lot

molten ridge
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Also very useful after you max the relationships is that Ambrosia can be traded for Titan Blood at a 1:1 ratio

astral valley
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is it better to completely clear the temple of styx or move on once you find the sack?

molten ridge
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Depends on how much you want one of the remaining rewards, how confident you can do it within your current amount of life/Death Defiances, or timer if you're using Tight Deadline

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99% of the time? Move on

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The ending rooms in Styx can be quite threatening and it's almost never worth it unless you're very sure you can do it safely/quickly

astral valley
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i feel like I would want the rewards but the full heal from the sack chamber is really nice

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also I cant beat the boss

molten ridge
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If you're struggling against ||final boss|| the answer is definitely "never," as doing the side chambers will just drain more life, and the circumstances in which the first 2-4 chamber rewards you got weren't enough is next to 0.

ornate remnant
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@molten ridge @astral valley || final boss || is considered a spoiler in this channel

molten ridge
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Sorry, thanks

astral valley
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sorry just started playing last week

ornate remnant
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No worries ^.^ Welcome to the game!

astral valley
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is it better to focus on one god's boon? i usually bounce between 3 or 4 on a run depending on what I get early

molten ridge
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3 or 4 is normal. Some Gods, Zeus in particular, stack extremely well with themselves

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You do want to typically focus on one thing though (not including say applying a second curse for Privileged Status). In most games, you want to make sure you're utilitizing all of your buttons, but this game definitely rewards specialization

astral valley
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what is the door to the left of achilles with the skull over it? Is it not in the game yet or I need to unlock it?

sly vigil
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You will need to unlock it

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How to do so will be fairly clear

velvet tendon
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a lot of stuff is just "play the game some more"

tender thistle
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is dmg vs weak (10->14%) the same as urge to kill (8->12%) as both are 4% or is one increased and the other multi? (is this even a thing in this game? coming from path of exile)

ornate remnant
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I believe they both affect your damage in the same way (additive % increase), though the 4% isn't relevant to that

@molten ridge I think you would know? (sorry for the ping)

molten ridge
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From a Path of Exile lexicon, Chaos, and ("some") Hammer mods are treated as More multipliers. Everything else is Increased/Reduced.

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Crit is treated the same as it is in Path

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Chaos modifiers are additive with themselves though. Similar to Crit Multi in Path (and Hades), where, say for example, you get Clean Kill at rare, which is 20ish% Crit Multi, that's not 20% MORE crit multi, it gets added to your base 200% crit multiplier.

Edit: I realize now that that phrasing is very confusing for people who hvaen't played Path. "More/Less" is used to denote multiplicative bonuses, and "Increased/Reduced" denotes additive bonuses.

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Small exception include Heart Rend, which is a 50% more multiplier to your total damage if you get a crit against a weak enemy

tender thistle
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@molten ridge thx!

molten ridge
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@tender thistle I made a minor (but important) correction. Apparently "most" hammer mods provide additive bonuses, but "some" provide multiplicative. It's literally case by case. Womp womp.

fickle grail
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How do people avoid ||the lava in Asphodel||? ||I find the spaces (even the exit ramps) so tight that it's easy to take unintended damage, especially after dashing into an area.||

ornate remnant
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Practice, honestly. And learning how far a dash goes so you don't have to think want it

molten ridge
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You'll see even season vets doing a slow careful crawl to the door when they're at 1 life no defiances lol

unique tendon
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hey, I am gonna start my first run with the shield, any specific gods/boons I should be going for 🙂 ?

jaunty maple
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for a first run? who cares! try new stuff

unique tendon
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okay 😄

jaunty maple
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shield doesn't attack super quickly, so I don't think I'd do Dionysus or Zeus attack, the shield bounce is pretty good with Doom

unique tendon
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I was able to reach the final boss with the sword yesterday, got him to half hp then he got me...

jaunty maple
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remember that you have access to somewhat of a ranged attack, and that blocking IS an option

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niiiice!

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the last boss is a genuinely tough fight, you'll get there

unique tendon
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m1 hold is the block?

jaunty maple
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uhh... normal attack hold

unique tendon
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yeah okay 😄

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im playing on keyboard+mouse

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@jaunty maple sorry for the ping but this is my first dionysus boon but should I take drunken dash, dio aid or after party

jaunty maple
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I’m a newb too and don’t know the names .P

unique tendon
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ohhh haha

jaunty maple
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The dash is very good in some places. You’re not deep into the mirror?

unique tendon
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I can pm you the pics

jaunty maple
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(40 hours, almost 60 plays, so not that bad! Just don’t know the names)

ornate remnant
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@unique tendon a little bit late, but Athena is good for the special. Make good use of your block, but try not to let yourself get stuck in one spot ^.^

tepid vale
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@unique tendon a little late, but if you get offered dio's aid, you should take it. It has ridiculous DPS

unique tendon
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thank you guys ❤️ I did get the dio call and im about to fight the final boss ;-;

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only 1 revive left and like 163/250 health

ornate remnant
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best of luck!

unique tendon
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should I just keep throwing my shield at the boss? I have the doom affect

ornate remnant
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At this point, focus on the fight o7

unique tendon
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i lost but I was closer than ever >.>

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20-30% of his hp was left

ornate remnant
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nice! keep at it :D

unique tendon
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hmm got the hammer as first pick, should I take snap nova, super nova or cruel thrust

ornate remnant
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any of those could work, I might go for Super Nova and build into a high-damage special boon

unique tendon
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will try that out ;o

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thanks

ornate remnant
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o7

unique tendon
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second floor got a dio call and one of the picks are your special inflict hangover

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hmm..

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either drunken strike (physical) or drunken floruish (special)

ornate remnant
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I can give you suggestions, but a lot of this game is experimenting and figuring out what's fun for you ^.^

Personally, I would go for strike, and hold out for a high-damage special boon, but with a larger radius, you can apply hangover to more enemies with your special. So both have potential value :D

unique tendon
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Truee

jaunty maple
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yeah generally I prefer hangover to be on very fast things (fist/gun attack, weirder specials)

unique tendon
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@ornate remnant you should check out my build...

ornate remnant
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oh?

unique tendon
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special is stronger and can deflect, your special is 12% faster. special is wider, special can hit twice

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🙂

ornate remnant
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ooh, nice

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both novas

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plus athena and hermes

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solid combo

unique tendon
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and im ramping up HP, already at 275

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also got poseiden's dash, damage+knockback

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I know this game is in early access but are achievments planned 🙂 ?

spare marsh
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Achievements are planned for full release.

unique tendon
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nice 😄 !

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does striking refer to only physical attacks or does it also count to special attacks?

spare marsh
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In context of which boon?

unique tendon
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Eris bangle

spare marsh
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Applies to everything.

unique tendon
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awesome!

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ok here I go again to the final boss... this time I have a respectable build and im full hp with 3 revives

jaunty maple
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niiice

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should have it then 😄

unique tendon
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I DID IT

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yess 😄 10 hours to beat the game haha

pulsar frigate
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congrats!!!

unique tendon
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kinda underwhelming

spare marsh
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Well it's still early access.

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But there's lots more to do till full release.

unique tendon
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now I can try winning with a different weapon or wait till full release

spare marsh
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It's up to you.

ornate remnant
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woohoo!

spare marsh
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There's piles and piles of dialogue for you, and greater challenges, if you want them.

unique tendon
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im having fun so theres no reason to stop 😄 !

chrome jackal
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10 hours? Wow. 26+ here and still a way to go for me I think

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Loving it though

tender thistle
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using the gun atm, how does the aspect of hestia work with delta chamber hammer upgrade (+3 no reload) , will i gimp my run with this or tripple my dmg? xD

uneven slate
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Neither nor. It can manually reload as usual, and empowers one shot still.

molten ridge
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Though I'd be wary in general of Delta Chamber. It's something of a meme in the community how bad it is. If you were, say, on Zagreus Aspect, it would likely ruin the run. It is basically textless on Hestia though.

uneven slate
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It doesn't do anything on its own. It would have a use with Spread Fire, but are they even compatible?

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According to the wiki, they aren't.

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Dang.

fickle root
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What is the purpose of bringing the relationship with Gods over 1 Heart or even over the Golden heart with Ambrosia? Why should i give them Ambrosia?

uneven slate
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You will forge a bond with them at full hearts - for now it's only flavor, but who knows, maybe that changes with the full release.

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Also, some gods have prophecies that appear to be linked to an at least partially filled affinity.

fickle root
#

So, even with a bond (i have with Athene) don't give you any higher Rarity or chance for the boons?

dense laurel
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you get better rarity from boons through the mirror upgrade and keepsakes

uneven slate
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The bond has no influence on rarity of boons, or the functionality of the keepsakes.

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Some people have left feedback to change that, but whether that's implemented will be up to the devs.

obsidian locust
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So, even with a bond (i have with Athene) don't give you any higher Rarity or chance for the boons?
If I'm not wrong but I think it was chaos who stated it the best way on how relationships above the first level work. It went along the lines of "You are aware that you will gain nothing from these constant offerings to me?" and Zagreus said something like he is aware but he wanted to give them anyways. I think its nice because I gave most of my nectar and Ambrosia to people simply because I wanted to know more about them and simply want to show my affection for these fictional characters somehow. But that's probably just me.

gray haven
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It's intended to be something you do for the sake of showing your affection. It's not intended to be something you do just to get rewards.

obsidian locust
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I couldn't agree more

gray haven
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Well, that's more or less what Greg said lol.

obsidian locust
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And it makes sense

dense laurel
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gods romance when

obsidian locust
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@vivid patio Where was the msg saying that there won't be more romance options?

dawn berry
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Do the god keepsakes like Zeus' work only once an escape or does it refresh at the end of every underworld region

lethal rain
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Pretty sure it's once per escape so it's worth to switch them, unless you still need bonus rare chance

spare marsh
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I just did them because I really like all the gods.

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They're so well characterized and fun.

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Even creepy cousin Ares who absolutely has a freezer full of heads.

lethal rain
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I'm afraid a single freezer isn't enough for his legendary collection

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Unless you consider the Demeter's playground aka the surface

dawn berry
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So the rarity upgrade is throughout the run?

uneven slate
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As long as you carry the keepsake. Let's say you switch the Thunder Signet for the Vial of Blood, you lose the bonus for Zeus and gain it for Ares - and you are guaranteed one Ares boon.

dawn berry
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Alright thanks

velvet tendon
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I absolutely believe the first clear is the biggest roadblock

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Gotta beat the game once to really play the game

lethal rain
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Actually the second clear is probably bigger
You get confident with first win and then wonder why runs keep failing afterwards

velvet tendon
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At least you get modifiers and can farm bounties after first clear

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The hidden aspects are all teasing me with their upturned skirts and i cant do anything about it short of grinding gemstones and nectar

vivid patio
obsidian locust
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Lol sorry and Thanks!

marble vigil
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Hi! Where can i find moemories list and how to get them?

uneven slate
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If you mean the fated list of minor propecies, it's sold by the house contractor and will then appear on the desk in Zagreus' room.

marble vigil
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Nope, sorry, i just translated from spanish version, i mean the box just before you start, where u choose the "accessory". The thing you get when giving nectar

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I just to give the right nectars to get the rigt gigts

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gifts

uneven slate
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Oh, I see. Keepsakes, then.

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You can get them from all characters but one by gifting one nectar to them.

marble vigil
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hahaha, in spanish is "recuerdos" which is just "memories"

uneven slate
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They will appear in the courtyard.

ornate remnant
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There is a cabinet on the left side

uneven slate
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A later upgrade allows you to access them during a run between regions.

ornate remnant
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Ah, I follow what you're asking for! @marble vigil

You can find them listed out on the wiki, along with each person they go with

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In general though, just giving nectar to everyone is a safe option

last topaz
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guys can i get enough titan blood to update every aspect or should i be careful in what i choose?

lethal rain
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You can trade resources for titan blood and also buy it in final chapter of the run so it's definitely something you can use somewhat loosely

last topaz
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alright cool

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thanks

ornate remnant
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In addition, if you decide after getting a new Aspect (or spending Blood on an Aspect) that you don't like it, if you Give Up during your first run with it, it'll revert to before you spent the Blood, as long as you didn't leave the courtyard before starting

last topaz
#

thanks 👍

ornate remnant
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o7 best of luck!

wind niche
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Hi guys i'm a new player and I would like to know how long does a run last on average? For example I like Risk of Rain because I know that when I start a run, It will often take more than one hour to finish it and I find it satisfying. Anyway if it wasn't the case for Hades I would still love this game but i'm interested to know

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*I mean how long a finished run last (because I didn't get past asphodel so I don't know what happens next)

ornate remnant
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My runs average around 40-60ish minutes real time

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I'm decently fast, but I frequently alt-tab to this server even in the middle of a run (decently fast being averaging 20 minutes by the run timer, which is not the same thing as in-game time)

wind niche
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Ok that's nice ! good to know thank you

ornate remnant
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Sure thing ^.^

lethal rain
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Yeah, they seem to be around an hour for full completion, maybe down to 45 minutes when you go fast

gray haven
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Usually around 35 minutes real time for me now at this point. If you're starting out, it's gonna be a lot slower, of course.

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Although, some people are really fast right from the start.

topaz fiber
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Is it just me, or are all the invulns (and stealths in the final fight) really frustrating?

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I've been loving every single thing about this game except when a boss bubbles itself :/

sleek whale
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its to prevent you from insta-killing a boss. And well they're bosses, they should give you a hard time.

blissful marsh
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I've just finished unlocking every keepsake, but i'm not sure what ones are good besides the coinpurse. any recommendations on which I should level up first?

topaz fiber
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@blissful marsh say for instance you're on a run and want to seek out a certain boon from a specific god that will synergise with your run, I find you will naturally level up god specific keep sakes like this

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So in that case, whichever god keepsake that has the boons you find fun are good to level up. I also personally find that somewhere towards the end of a run I'll take the broken spearpoint for defense

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The distant memory can be a really nice boost to damage if you're keeping foes at a distance. The Lucky Tooth can give you that extra life you need if you lost all your death defiances early on

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Starting off with the shattered shackle can be a quite fun also

blissful marsh
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Cheers

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Also do you know which god gives the highest %base damage increase on attacks?

topaz fiber
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I don't know for certain but I seemed to find that Aphrodite's attack has highest % on it. I wonder to myself whether it's equivalent to the potential damage increase you can get from Artemis' bonus damage + the increased crit strike it offers.

marsh ether
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If you're looking for raw damage Aphro is on top followed by Poseidon and Demeter.
It is worth nothing though that Artemis crits can lead to much higher damage.

topaz fiber
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I see. I had been considering the weighting that was given to the different status effects on each boon. So like I guess the damage reduction offers the least potential damage output so they tweak its value higher. Poseidon has the potential for knockback into walls, demeter offers a slow which is great utility so it make sense to do less damage

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Then every attack you throw with artemis you're rolling that dice for those sweet, juicy crits

sleek whale
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depends on rng though tbh on getting crit hits, so if u want consistent high damage aphro is the best way to go

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however if you have a weapon with high fire rate (the rail or fists), the crit damage might be worth it

blissful marsh
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Ahpro is very nice for damage reduction and max health, so if you get to greedy and take a hit trying for the 3 hit combo on arthurs sword its less punishing

sleek whale
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i have using arty strike and chaos boons on 4th aspect of the sword done pretty consistent 2k+ dmg

spare marsh
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Aphrodite's stuff generally has the highest raw damage.

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Her flourish is the highest modifier as well.

gray haven
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however if you have a weapon with high fire rate (the rail or fists), the crit damage might be worth it
Attack speed is honestly irrelevant for whether crit is good or not.

spare marsh
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Crit is basically a damage modifier. It's just buried in math and higher variance RNG.

gray haven
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What ultimately matters isn't the damage you do but the number of hits you need.

spare marsh
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To kill an enemy you mean? Yeah.

gray haven
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Or to break armor.

spare marsh
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Yup yup. So it can be hard to measure the value in a vaccum.

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But saving yourself multiple hits with a big slow weapon like Hestia aspect is worth a lot.

lethal rain
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Smaller crits indeed are more suitable against regular targets, as less potential is wasted

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Although one cannot deny getting huge crit numbers is a joy for eyes to see

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Also technically hunter's mark is more suitable for big hits

uneven slate
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What a dangerous question to ask.

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Everything involving the last fight is so far up spoiler territory that I wouldn't want to answer it here.

lethal rain
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I'd just tell you that no final boss is safe from second phase curse bouldy
Always be prepared

ebon flicker
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is the reload on the rail tied to movement speed? had a chaos boon which reduced move speed, and reload seemed really slow (might just been the animation)

uneven slate
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That's an interesting observation. Does that happen with the moving reload only, or with the stationary reload too? I'd f10 that just in case

last topaz
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this agme is hard

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lol

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im at run 20 or so and got for the first time to the 4th floor and now im just like wtf is even going on

ornate remnant
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That's reasonable

last topaz
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i thought its over after floor 3

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but on the first room i did on floor 4 i took like 150 damage

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lol

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i think my build is op too

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im just gonna see if i can play slower

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i just kinda feel overwhelmed

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and im running on 240 fps on a high referesh screen

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lol i got lucky i got the quest thing on room too

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should i try to do more rooms

ornate remnant
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How are you doing for health?

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Generally, unless I'm doing well on health and confident I can easily clear them, I won't bother with extra rooms

last topaz
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well i was full health from the last boon i got

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i got to the third phase (of the first health bar if there are mulitple) im not quite sure how to deal with the grey bubble guy it creates too much trash on the screen and takes so long to kill

ornate remnant
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Grey bubble...?

lethal rain
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Probably soulcatcher

ornate remnant
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Mm, yeah

lethal rain
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The way to deal with that is to attack, the "trash" can be removed bouldy

last topaz
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so you just remove the butterflies

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or you kill the soulcatcher

ornate remnant
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Both work

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Depends on if you have armor piercing

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(an attack that does bonus damage to armor)

last topaz
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man that dusa trinket seems to be pretty good

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i also just realized i never unlocked the rest of my talents on the mirror

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since i last played when the mirror was different

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well after this run

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wops

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i got demeter on both shield attacks that seems pretty damn good as well ol

ornate remnant
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Nice!

last topaz
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@ornate remnant good you made trhat comment about armor, i kind aforgot how armor works and now i just picked +400% armor damage on special on spear and realized i can just stagger ejnemies if tehy have no armor ...

ornate remnant
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Yup lol

last topaz
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man there is alot in this game

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it has alot more depth than i thought in terms of systems interactions

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are the daedalus weapon upgades the highest priority rooms usually?

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seemns to me that way

pulsar frigate
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they're usually run defining, so a lot of weapons prefer them

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some don't, but generally speaking you want them (since you can only get a limited amount)

gray haven
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Sometimes if you have one particular hammer upgrade that's really strong, you don't care too much about whatever the second hammer can offer you.

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Sometimes you do a cast build and don't care for hammers at all.

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There's a lot of variety, and different runs will prioritize different things even if you went into the run with the same strategy.

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And there's also just simply different playstyles from different people who prioritize different things—and yet can all be very successful.

last topaz
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mhm

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sounds good

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i got the triple spear upgrade which was pretty nice

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but i didnt do enough single target

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the arena boss fight is so spongy and spammy 😄

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theres no way i can see the base damage of my weapon i suppose? because theres alot of +n% damage and i can never tell which one is best

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you can also not see hwat is a boon and what is an upgrade

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easily

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im thinking if it could be +ev to just spam boons and then sell them

lethal rain
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You'd have to rely on skelly to see base damage of weapons

last topaz
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yeah but i always forget

lethal rain
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But after that, most attack boosts are additive so it's easily calculated

last topaz
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so i dont know if special +50% + dot or special +110% replacement is better

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i.e.

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but i guess all damge value are between 15 and 30

lethal rain
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Well, take a good few minutes and don't forget and test

last topaz
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hmm

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well i could look it up

lethal rain
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Altho yeah, most numbers are around that

last topaz
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i just wondered if imiss sth

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also i havent seen zeus since i startd playing again

lethal rain
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Bow special is 10, some of 4th aspects have a lot higher than 30 dmg

last topaz
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is he locked behind progress now?

spare marsh
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Nope.

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You're just unlucky.

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Use his keepsake to force him to appear.

last topaz
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okay i played like 4-5 hours

spare marsh
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That's luck sometimes.

last topaz
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i think i dont have it yet

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okay

spare marsh
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You can use Fated Authority if you have that unlocked to try and force him.

last topaz
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games pretty good tho not gonna lie 😉

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and i love they made it so it runs 240 fps

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i was pretty astonished

lethal rain
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Zeus is scripted to appear as first boon on second run so he is definitely not locked away

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Also huh, 240fps? Yeah that's p nice

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A lot of games have physics bound to framerate so that will make them go apes dusa

last topaz
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i mean with run, you can realistically run it

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damn it i lost at the arena again

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an di was sooooo op

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i had 0 problems until then

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i need to learn "king" properly

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wait is there dialog missing or did i get a bug bc ppl stopped talking to me

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i mean voiced

ornate remnant
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Yeah, that's a bug @last topaz

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You can report it with f10

last topaz
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some dialog is still there

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okay all lines are voiced already?

ornate remnant
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Yup

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Every single line should be voiced

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If some aren't, it's a bug

last topaz
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alright i reported it

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zeus still hasnt shown up btw 😄

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maybe i see if i can get the trinket

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wth

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after i reportd the bug the lines started to be voiced again

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wth

ornate remnant
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Hahaha, neat

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Could've been just a few lines missing

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If nothing else, restarting the game will fix it

last topaz
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okay he showed

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up zeus

quiet hazel
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How do i use dashing flight of the shield?

spare marsh
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You dash and throw it?

uneven slate
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Isn't it the other way around?

quiet hazel
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Yeah it's throw then dash

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Basically dash while the shields are mid-flight

jaunty maple
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wait really? that explains a lot haha

final nacelle
jaunty maple
grizzled elm
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Pinned messages in the builds-and-combat channel!

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It's a little underneath the weekly challenge pin.

final nacelle
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ah, the pins. of course. thank you!

ruby edge
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There's no general chat so i'm just gonna say, anyone else just like to sit and vibe with the Eurydice song in Asphodel?

lethal rain
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Yes, absolutely

ruby edge
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It's very nice to just sit and chill for a couple minutes with her

gray haven
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Chilling in Asphodel.

silent citrus
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just the right temperature for chill

gray haven
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That's the name of the song, right?

lethal rain
pastel cipher
ocean lake
wraith narwhal
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first escape
stygian blade - 31 minutes

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😄

obsidian locust
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Congrats! 🎊

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Here's to the first of many

wraith narwhal
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i didnt take one shadegrief

ornate remnant
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S'all good, still a victory!

solar badge
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hey where can i find more of those hearts thing that can evolve my weapon?

ornate remnant
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Titan's Blood?

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@solar badge

solar badge
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yeah, srry i had forgotten

ornate remnant
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no worries! You can get more initially by playing with each weapon and beating the first boss. After you've done that with each weapon, the only way to get more is to || beat the final boss || or trade for it (just don't use up all of your Ambrosia in trade)

solar badge
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and theres a way i can see if I already beat whit a weapon or not?

ornate remnant
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not until you've || beaten the final boss ||, unfortunately

solar badge
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got it, thanks a lot

ornate remnant
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Sure thing!

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Best of luck ^.^

solar badge
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hey, how can i use the fishin rod?

brisk surge
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walk up to a fishing spot & there will be a button prompt to "Fish"

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they look like this

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you'll also hear a "ding" sound effect if there's a fishing spot in the room, after you clear the encounter (if there is one)

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usually there's a little under 1 fishing spot per biome, so if you dont find any, there might just not have been any that spawned. Final biome has a much higher change of getting a fishing spot

solar badge
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thank you so much

spring canyon
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Hello everyone. I started playing Hades a few days ago. I love this game but I felt I had a very hard time finishing a run for the first time (25 runs before I managed to do it). Mostly, the hardest part for me was the last floor. But then I read on internet you could get rid of the poison by drinking in fountains and this permitted me to finally overcome that! It seems to me this feature isn't well explained in the game, or did I miss something?

uneven slate
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You're sort of supposed to figure that out on your own as a player. The mandrake pools will emit light that attracts you when the screen is clouded with poison, and standing next to them will show [button prompt] CURE even outside of battle. Still, from the perspective of a new player, Zagreus' voicelines offer little to explain this mechanic. He says "need a cure" instead of "need a mandrake", for example. If you think he should be more obvious, perhaps leave a feedback?

cerulean drum
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For me I kinda figured it out because it did nothing when I drank it normally, then understood the first time I got poisoned

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But yeah it isn't really in-your-face about it

spring canyon
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I thought the "Cure" prompt meant more like "Cure wounds" and stuck to that in my mind... And since it did nothing I thought it was just a troll lol...
You are right, I should leave this as feedback.

leaden whale
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why i cant leave feedback?

ornate remnant
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read the pins in the channel

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it'll tell you how

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@leaden whale

visual stirrup
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Hey can anyone confirm what the criteria is to unlock weapon aspects? I just unlocked them

ornate remnant
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You need to have || unlocked every weapon with keys ||

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@visual stirrup

visual stirrup
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Really? Cause when I first unlocked f very weapon it wasn't there and it wasn't until a run or two later (after the second time I'd beaten meg) that tho option showed up.

ornate remnant
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That makes sense, most things require a run to update

visual stirrup
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Aaaah ok

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thanks

ornate remnant
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Sure thing o7

marble nest
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Dies finishing the small rooms in Styx helps leveling up our keepsakes?

Also, how to get Patroclus name from the unknown man in Elysium?

sleek wigeon
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||I love this game but i feel like hades is such a "ghouls n ghost" tier boss||

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Like I struggle to get him one time

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I feel like i'll never be able to beat him twice and finally end a run

velvet tendon
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@marble nest open the codex

jaunty maple
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@sleek wigeon you can totally do it, do you have all three Death Defiance unlocked? just keep practicing!

sleek wigeon
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@jaunty maple I actually have 2 unlocked, still farming to unlock all passive on the mirror

jaunty maple
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Ahh, yeah I finished my first run the same moment I unlocked my third... didn’t end up using it though haha

sleek wigeon
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I feel like I can do it but I'm really having a hard time with his moveset, I miss the dodge of his spear aoe like 3 times out of 4

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I was using dionysos boon so I couldn't see the little white circle that tells you it's coming

solar badge
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hey, how do I get the fourth buff of a weapon?

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like, I already beat the game twice so I really dont know

lethal rain
jaunty maple
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check pins in story and spoilers

sleek wigeon
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how can I optimize my build in the best way? I think the weapons I'm the most efficient with for the moment are the sword and the shield

tepid vale
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the sword probably wants duo boons
the best build I've gotten in a new file is Ares attack, athena special and dash, and true shot, with merciful end and deadly reversal

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anything with hunter's dash and a lot of damage is also good

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e.g. aphro or artemis attack

sleek wigeon
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@tepid vale thanks for the tips, what is e.g. ? sorry i'm not a native english speaker

stoic zephyr
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pretty much just an abbreviation that means "for example"

sleek wigeon
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okay thanks ^^ sorry for the dumb question haha

stoic zephyr
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not dumb at all! no problem

sleek wigeon
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I don't know what true shot, mercifuel end and deadly reversal are, these are god boons aswell?

tepid vale
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true shot is artemis's cast

sleek wigeon
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oh right I seee

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guess I should put the game in english, would be easier to find good tips about boons and builds

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I was wondering, I got my relation with charon maxed out but I didn't see what it actually does, is it some kind of true ending stuff?

tepid vale
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merciful end and deadly reversal are duo boons

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powerful effects that require you to have specific boons from multiple gods

sleek wigeon
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duo boons looks really good from what i've seen

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there's a special thing to do to get em or is it random?

tepid vale
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with the core boons I listed, you can get both of them

ornate remnant
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Re: Charon: || unfortunately, nope. Most of the relationships don't have a mechanical change for maxing them out—though some of them do, and you'll get story rewards from all of them ||

sleek wigeon
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thank you Swan

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Story in the codex didn't change that much tho

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it seems*

tepid vale
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duos have specific prerequisites, and once you fill them it's just random whether you get them

ornate remnant
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For Duo boons, they require you to have one (sometimes a specific one) of each God's boon

sleek wigeon
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oooà right

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cause I just had demeter + athena

ornate remnant
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Ooh, that's a good one

sleek wigeon
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And I realised that I have demeter and athena

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actually playing the "rifle"

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since I had the darkness buff on it

ornate remnant
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Makes sense

sleek wigeon
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I love the athena dash

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Feels really good when you're a beginner

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struggling to dodge heavy stuff

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I got a run where I got to try the weapon modifier that gives you 3 grenades instead of 1

ornate remnant
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I love that one xD

tepid vale
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Feels really good when you're a beginner
@sleek wigeon it'll feel good forever

sleek wigeon
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Gotta say it was really fun, those buffs are random too or there is some kind of way to trigger them as

ornate remnant
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Yup, they're random

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But, you're guaranteed to get a couple

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By the end of the entire run

sleek wigeon
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Okay

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I really want to end a run ;_;

ornate remnant
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You'll get there!

sleek wigeon
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The more I play the game the more I love it but I feel like i'll never beat the last boss

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Everytime I get crushed like, worst than the last one

tepid vale
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you can actually usually avoid hammers, if you want to
and I personally have gone entire runs with only one hammer when I wanted to have two

ornate remnant
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^also true, I should clarify: You're guaranteed to be offered a couple

sleek wigeon
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sorry for the french language, but I don't know what I should go for here

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the last one seems very good too

ornate remnant
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Yup

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You'll want Delta at some point for the Prophecy, but it's not very good

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Rocket is one of my favorites

sleek wigeon
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yeah I feel like special is the way to go on the gun

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right?

ornate remnant
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Depends on your build, I've had an attack build that melted everything, even the final boss

sleek wigeon
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thanks for helping by the way, this community is as good as the game

tepid vale
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you'll win if you keep trying at it
once you learn the timing for the final boss's movesets it gets easier, and you're guaranteed to eventually get a broken build if you just try new stuff

sleek wigeon
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My last run was like a crazy attack spear build where you can't channel your attack

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but you attack like a damn flash dude

ornate remnant
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Ooh, nice

sleek wigeon
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Was fun all along the run but I actually tickled the last boss

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And since I was using dionysos on dash

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I couldn't see the damn white circles around him

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I love how the story keeps going on when you die and retry, but it seems the game also gets harder right? Like I got a ||rat encounter|| at some point that was litterally more dangerous than mr blondie and his bullbuddy

ornate remnant
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Those are randomized, actually

sleek wigeon
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Like when you meet the bull alone?

ornate remnant
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Yup

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Minibosses are random each run

sleek wigeon
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Ok
about the gifts you can make to the different characters, they give you a relic only on the first one?

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So I don't waste any juice

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Wanted to make Dusa happy but if it's worthless I'd rather use them for trading

ornate remnant
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For some characters, you'll get more rewards down the line

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And you'll learn more about the story from every character

sleek wigeon
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I have a hard choice to make

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I'm actually wondering which one to take between the second and the last one

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exposed status looks good

ornate remnant
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How far into the run are you?

sleek wigeon
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I just arrived in the 2nd biome

ornate remnant
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Last one

tepid vale
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last one is a prereq for literal invincibility

ornate remnant
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Not quite literal...

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:3

sleek wigeon
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my actual build

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only low rarity boons tho xD

tepid vale
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low rarity divine dash with brilliant riposte is a build by itself

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so that's pretty solid

sleek wigeon
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just got this one :3

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my personnal favorite so far is the poseidon call

tepid vale
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dio's call is the best dps, but zeus is also very good

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poseidon is mediocre damage, but the invincibility makes it worthwile

sleek wigeon
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so now that I have divine dash and brilliant riposte I should get a last boon that gives tankyness?

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talked about litteraly invincibility 😄

ornate remnant
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Very rare

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But yeah, go for any Athena boons you see

sleek wigeon
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Does the last one affects poison ? I guess not

ornate remnant
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That's fine lol, last one there is good

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Uhh

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Kinda

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Some poison is from a trap, some is from an enemy

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Not sure exactly how it works out, but it does help

uneven slate
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The gas traps in the satyr tunnels are affected, but the satyr/rat poison isn't

tepid vale
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athena boons in minibosses are your best chance to see it

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duo boons are also more likely in miniboss chambers

ornate remnant
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I still remember the first time I got one of those, was so cool

sleek wigeon
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yeah I really got surprised by the duo boon

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The duo dialogue was on point

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The story and dialogues in general are pretty much insanely good

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especially for a rogue like game

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and even more for a hack n slash i'd say

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Lol my gun is firing 5 rockets at once now

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YEET

ornate remnant
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Woohoo!

sleek wigeon
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guess i'll have to take the middle one now 😄

ornate remnant
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It is entirely possible you won't see it, but good luck!! Either way, an Athena build is quite good :3

sleek wigeon
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I lov ethe 5 rockets buff hahah

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soooo good at close range feels like a shotgun

tepid vale
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it's just a heavier bow special

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no, holy shield isn't what we were talking about

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but it is good if you get mobbed

sleek wigeon
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the thing with the bow is that
I want to love this weapon but I can't get the timing right

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While I can make something with the gun most of the time

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yeah well I can't get the promised one even on a miniboss boon hahahaha

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Guess i'll just take the middle one and try to get ouuut*

ornate remnant
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I believe!!

tepid vale
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You still have some chances for higher-rarity boons ahead of you

sleek wigeon
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just got a legendary it seems

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but i don't know how this works

tepid vale
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it completely eliminates damage from one hit, then recharges for 20 seconds

ornate remnant
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Woohoo!

sleek wigeon
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okay that's what I thought

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thanks again for your time guys you are the best!

tepid vale
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as long as you onlyy get hit once every 20 seconds, or less than that, you don't take damage any more

ornate remnant
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Sure thing! Go for it, just don't get overconfident!

sleek wigeon
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Zeus is pissed because of that but I got a prophecy complete

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Zeus must be one of the characters that gets me the most

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Always cracking a smile at least with his lines

uneven slate
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I must admit that it's the first time I noticed that the god flavor text changes. I seriously need to pay more attention to this.

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Can't remember to ever have seen the description "girl with grey eyes" for Athena before.

sleek wigeon
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The gift from Patrocle

uneven slate
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Stack isn't the right word. It will create a shield with a short duration after getting damaged, and has a separate cooldown.

sleek wigeon
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Okaaay so I have 2 instances of shield at once?

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but one has a longer cooldown than the other

uneven slate
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While you do get more invincibility that way, it works like this: First damage removes Athena's shield. Second damage hits you, and puts Patty's shield up for a short time. It will vanish on its own.

sleek wigeon
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oooh yeah Got it

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it's not a shield

uneven slate
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So it will cover you for some time against continuous damage.

sleek wigeon
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it's a triger on dmg

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I'm wondering if I should take since i'm going in the last biom

uneven slate
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You will notice its usefulness when faced with poison.

sleek wigeon
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ooooooooh right

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I hate poison thanks for the advice

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that's a must-go then haha

uneven slate
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Also, snakestone beams will only hit you once. Just keep in mind that the keepsake will take some time to recover.

sleek wigeon
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"To the top!" residentzag

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is there a way to know if my relic triggers?

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like a visual effect or something on the boon bar

ornate remnant
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you'll see a shield pop up around you, and a cooldown circle will appear below it on the boon bar

sleek wigeon
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i'm really feeling it this time!

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it wasn't

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at least this time i nearly got him but I wasn't expecting the "shoot em up" phase all of a sudden

ornate remnant
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ooh, yeah

sleek wigeon
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yeah it got my ass kicked

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  • the green jars perma stunning me
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he was a quarter life away from dying but it was too much for me haha

ornate remnant
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dang :S

sleek wigeon
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I won't say i'm not disappointed haha but dying in this game always feels alright for some reason

ornate remnant
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yeah :D

sleek wigeon
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Is there some kind of easy build I can go for ?

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Because this one was fun but not really reliable on ||hades||

ornate remnant
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ahh, || final boss name is still a spoiler please :3 ||

sleek wigeon
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I have 4 titan blood I can unlock some aspects I gues

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yeah sorry for that, I try to keep it hidden everytime but I forgot here

ornate remnant
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hmm, generally shield is consistently good

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and no worries!

sleek wigeon
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yeah frommy own experience I'm best with the build for the moment

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shield sorry

ornate remnant
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ye

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do you have the chaos aspect?

sleek wigeon
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No I only got the chaos aspect on the sword

ornate remnant
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and you don't have enough blood to max out the chaos shield, so that's a no go. Still, regular shield is solid

sleek wigeon
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I realised what the titan blood is used for like 3 days ago lol

ornate remnant
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go for something like Aphrodite or Artemis attack, Athena special and/or dash

sleek wigeon
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I love the fists too

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Really fun weapon but I often attack too much

ornate remnant
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they're also good, just can be a bit harder

Zeus attack is stellar on those, plus Artemis dash (and hopefully support fire)

sleek wigeon
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and I can't dodge/dash because of it

ornate remnant
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yeah

sleek wigeon
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yeah I actually tried it out like 2hours ago

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zeus attack on fists

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seemed like a good idea because of high attack speed

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I don't really get what the rarity does

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it makes the stats better on boons ?

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like I got this one, it's like +4 dmg than the regular one, right?

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doesn't seem that much of a deal

ornate remnant
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rarity increases stats, yeah

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+4 damage adds up