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how to get the house contractore to fix the lounge
what do i have to buy
|| various lounge items, I think it's a certain number, not certain things ||
do rugs count
I think so
hm, just a sec
|| a minimum of 12 Lounge-focused renovations, which must include at least one rug for the area as well as cleaning up Cerberus's fur and the scratches he left in the floor. ||
ty
o7
I believe so
how to do gift of the song
nvm i just got it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718328035493019711/736708884139475024/unknown.png how do i make chaos stop trying to murder my face
Report that with f10, lmao
The Underworld gets so upset that it itself starts to fight you.
It really is in "Chaos"
so uh...based on the limited info i can find by searching the web, it seems i should have unlocked the 4th aspect on at least one weapon by now, but all that info seems to be 6 months to a year or so old. what gives, how do i get them? the event that should occur, isn't.
@tender tangle have you checked out the pinned post in #h1-story-discussion ?
mild spoiler, of course, but instructions are there.
that's exactly what i mean - i've met the requirements for the spear and it isn't giving it to me
😦
guess i'll just try and get some more blood and unlock more things, meh
lol it finally worked, only took going beyond what the requirement is supposed to be by a bit...oh well
The requirements in the pinned message are correct. You probably just needed to get through other dialogue or finish another run first. That's usually the case when something hasn't shown up yet that you meet the requirements for.
What makes a rare version of a boon better than a higher level one?
Since the NPC in Asphodel offers a choice between upgrading the rarity of two, or levelling up four, I'm assuming rarity has to be better, but from what I can see they both just increase one numerical aspect of the boon
(Probably the same one? Haven't kept track fully)
some boons can't be levelled up, however they can increase in rarity; for example chaos and hermes boons
Hmm, I see
But generally does that make the pom porridge the best choice if you have a lot of boons since any dish just picks randomly?
Depends. If you have good odds to increase the rarity of your core boon (attack or special in most cases), then it is worth to take that. Because rarer boons also scale better with later level ups.
If your amount of boons is already very large by the time you reach Eurydice, taking the pom porridge yields better results.
Alright, thanks
Also, the Ambrosia Delight is the more reliable way of two to get a boon to Heroic rarity, which cannot be found by regular means.
(The other way are exchanges, but that can only be done with attack, special, cast, dash or call boons).
Because rarer boons also scale better with later level ups.
That's not true. Rarity and pom level are additive.
Doesn't rarity serve as a multiplier?
At least, that's how I understood the wiki tables, but you certainly know better than me on this field, with your spreadsheets and all.
Yes, but the level and rarity multipliers are added up.
An increase in rarity typically gives a greater bonus than any pom level. The bonus from pom levels will also decrease with every level up to a minimum. (E.g., the damage from Lightning Strike will always increase by at least 1.)
I want to ask questions but I'm not sure what is considered spoilers or not :(
some boons can't be levelled up, however they can increase in rarity; for example chaos and hermes boons
To clarify as well, there is no way to change the rarity of a chaos boon once you've gotten it, and they also cannot gain levels (except by stacking two of the same)
@patent grotto then you can ask with spoiler tags ( || like this || )
Ok :)
What are some good controllers that I can buy? I’ve only used KB/mouse until now.
Been eyeing on 8bitdo SN30 Pro+, looking for some other suggestions 😆
I use a normal x-box controller and I am happy with it.
Haven't tried it yet with this game, but I've had good experience with the Switch Pro controller for other games on Steam
(Oops thought I was in general off topic channel my bad)
Ah I see
Lots of options
Switch pro is a bit too small for my hands, but this is only my problem^^´
interested to see how it will play with a controller 🙂
Getting used to controllers will def be a big transition I’m sure
Hm. I didnt play with M&K before, so i can only say, that i got used to the controlls really quick.
Yeah we’ll see how quickly my hands will let me adjust to the changes 
I way prefer a controller over M+KB
I’m a huge fan of the PS4 controller for all my controller needs - I’ve never owned a PlayStation but it feels like the most responsible and most comfortable by far for me (average size hands, grew up on Dreamcast/Xbox)
Thanks for the suggestion guys 🙂
I also use an Xbox controller for games like this, I’m a huge fan of the way it feels
I’ve also become really fond of having a rubber grip cover on my controllers, just makes it more comfortable for me because my hands tend do sweat when I play a lot and that helps greatly
Silicone I guess
I tried playing with an xbox controller and switched to keyboard since using dash attack was somewhat inconvenient
I've been playing this on PS4 pad.
Kinda wanna try it with my arcade stick or hitbox.
hitbox would be dope lol
I am here just using my Xbox controller
but I imagine most controller with one shoulder button would do
Yeah just gave it a go with my wife's switch controller, not bad. I'll def need time to get used to it lol
so just escaped for the 6th time and i only just realized you have to click on the weapon aspects to actually change it and grant the abilities
Rip
is there a way to see a complete list of boons etc in-game?
well, @random shale you can just click on the aspect to switch back
you don't need to pay titan blood to switch
but also, Achilles is so fun! dash through, spam cast at them or hit them with backstabs
and you can call back the spear with the attack button
delete that immediately haha
this is not the spoiler channel
oh shoot
err.. both messages haha
20 HOURS AND I STILL HAVEN'T WON THE GAME
you can use "||" to make spoilers, but I recommend talking in spoiler general or saying "the last boss"
rip
||and don't mention the second phase either, though I'd wish I'd known about that when I first got him there haha||
just letting out some frustration
yeah, that sucks! which weapon(s) you using?
I love the fists! just won with them a second ago, though I find I need a good cast cuz they're super low range
also, 20 hours and having not beaten the game is quite reasonable
this is a hard game
I get tired and resort to randomly smashing buttons
though in this one, not long breaks, or you'll forget what your build is haha
I recommend shorter sessions, only a few runs depending on how long your runs are
keeps frustration down :3
yeah, no more than 2 runs at a time, I usually do 1
then I do monster train or... "real life"
I love the idea of the Demeter cast, but I find it soooo hard to use well
I currently much prefer the burst of Artemis, Zeus, etc
I usually just spam it
the demeter cast
also it adds on well with one of demeter's boon
something about adding attack damage when you have no red crystal things
I LOVE that thing, if it works the way I imagine it, but since I just always spam my casts it doesn't really matter which I have haha
Stygian Blood (if that's the +50% damage against people with your bloodstones in them) is radddd
the boon adds like 3% or something
I think it goes to 30% if it's epic
eh I forgot, I'll try a demeter run tomorrow nd see if I can get that
have you got much of your mirror maxed out?
yeah I did
just not the olympianw favor and the other epic one
everything else I believe is maxed
Darren Korb and Ashley Barrett
ahh, yeah I won my first run the same time I got my third Defiance... and ending up not needing it, the skill grows fast
your problem seems to be the panic above all else - maybe try more spear?
does anyone have any tips for the bow? especially in rooms with lots of enemies I struggle more than I should :/
any specifc aspect ?
the base bow special is quite good for clearing
can add zeus on top
Use dash-strikes a lot. They charge faster than normal attacks.
And practice doing Power Shots reliably.
reposition yourself constantly, your range is your biggest advantage
^. A lot of enemies become predictable once you break the close distance with them, as they start slowly following you
Obviously not quite applicable in small rooms, but even there a slight gap may be the key difference
Can I ask what does dark foresight in the mirror gives the chance for? I mean there is a synbol but what does it mean?
I see, thank you. And this is a very nice graphical explanation
is it from reddit or wikia page?
It's from us.
Made by sparrow, one of the mods here
There's also boon charts pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat that were made by HeartfulPeach (another mod)
How does Aspect of Hestia interact with Spread Fire hammer?
the empowered shot is unaffected by spread fire entirely
In general, Hestia's empowered shot ignores hammers and boons
empowered shot does not ignore boons. It deals bonus damage and/or applies status effects
unless it's ricochet or piercing (or maybe explosive?), you're better off taking special hammers or not even taking hammers at all on hestia
so any useful tips on using the sheild or rail?
Shield bull rush is very powerful
zag shield loves attack/dash attack builds, but i wouldn't use special on it
chaos is special-based, and zeus uses a mixed playstyle
i usually build either bull rush or attack/dash attack, not both, but it can work
and for the rail is using effects that do extra damage for the special like doom or hangover any good?
you want the gods that have separate damage sources (zeus, ares, dio, support fire from artemis) on rail attack
zeus particularly
the special is your big damage ability, so use damage modifier gods on it (artemis, demeter, aphrodite, athena, poseidon)
when i play rail, i incorporate both attack and special into my style
Ares only really works with the Dire Misfortune Tier 2 boon on the Rail attack, as otherwise it doesn't really benefit from the rapid attack speed.
you want something to do in between reloading
ok thanks
there seems to be a hovering circle under the boons, does it have any significance or just visual? (it seems we can't upload screenshots here)
Hello Ms. Iron Swan
I do
I use A for attack, B for dash, X for cast, and Y for special.
if you play the Witcher 3, it's a similar control scheme
also rebind your rail reload to LB, the Codex can go somewhere else, like how often do you even open it lol
oh yeah thats the exact same button I rebound to rail reload
I tried putting dash on rb as well but couldnt get used to it
i use keyboard and mouse should i swap to controler?
there's no clear consensus on which is better, it's all about what feels most comfortable to you. personally, i prefer controller because i find it easier to dash
I kept walking into lava on kb+m 🤷♂️
i use keyboard and mouse should i swap to controler?
there is no strictly better option. both mkv and controller do equally well, even at absurdly difficult level. i do think that controllers are a bit more popular though.
yeah, the main awkward things for controller are definitely rail special and trippy shot aiming
Eris rail worth investing?
It's fine.
it's fun with cluster bombs
it's a global damage buff, so it's versatile
works with zeus bolts, hangover, support fire, your casts, etc
Hi all, I just started playing Hades two days ago so I thought I'd put this into #h1-for-new-players.
Yesterday I was battling Hydra and already got her down to a sliver of health when my xbox controller batteries died, as did Zag. 
It happens, I'm not mad, I was severely under-levelled (if that's the word) anyways and will take her/him/it (?) on again later today.
It did raise a question though:
Is it possible to implement a feature that the game detects when your controller is disconnected and automatically pauses the game? I have seen this feature in other games, like Dead Cells for example. It would be great to have it in Hades as in this type of games most times one hit can make all the difference between beating a boss or being killed.
That's something you should post in #hades-feedback. Check the pinned messages there for posting rules and for how to get permission to post in the channel. 
And hi!
Got it, thanks!
So i noticed you can dash and your attack can hit the other way is it useful in combat?
is there friendly fire against Theseus?
Yes.
I haven’t noticed any friendly fire at all ever because the fights are so chaotic 
There's no friendly fire. He can't hit you, and he doesn't take damage.
Oh wait, I read Thanatos lol.
Nevermind me.
You kind of can?
He wont normally hit him though
It has to be through charm or deflect if I'm not mistaken
I heard deflected spear can also do that.
wait
giving up doesn't end your win streak?

now I'm wondering. Is there any way to switch the weapon with dark thirst on it - without completing a run?
completing -> as in dying or whatever
Just bait asterius charge into theseus, ez 
Don't think there is a way to switch dark thirst except fully attempt a run --> dying/clearing
and you have to actually USE the dark thirst weapon, right?
no
oh okay, just rolled the same one twice then?
Yup
neat. thanks
hello, i am new to Hades (bought it yesterday) and am super in love with it!
currently i am grinding on "default / standard" but some guides i watched mentioned "hell mode" , should i switch restart with hell mode before i grind even more?
In short, no
I can go into details with spoilers
But the difference between Hell Mode and Normal Mode is fairly minimal
nah i am good. Will keep on defautl then, until i get bored i guess (- : (didnt even escape once so a lot to learn still)
bonus questions: i got like 5 titan blood but didnt find anything on how to use it yet, should i just progress "the story" or am i mssing something?
Keep playing. It will be revealed soon enough.
My advice is to try and be flexible with weapons
If you do so you are well on your way to see what they do
sweet! thx a lot. Yeah i try to switch it up a bit but i definitely have my favourites which i enjoy a lot more than others
Yeah that's great. I mean flexible as in don't just go for a single weapon alone
Try everything at least once ;)
try and .. progress at least to .. or just try?
Just try
thx ❤️
Np!
my hatred for that tiny vermin grow stronger every day I play
the thought of it plagues my mind
which ones?
One can only experience the nightmare for themselves
There is a specific ||Tiny Vermin up in Styx||
I met the thing today
Final boss time
good luck!
I don't really understand how to use the special of the fists
I usually use it at the up of combos
dash strike with it
my experience:
for high dmg, choose Dionysus or Ares
for buff, debuff, choose Athena (or Aphrodite, Demeter)
Drunken Strike - Dionysus is suitable for high rate of fire
like Adamant Rail attack
Drunken Flourish - Dionysus is also suitable for high rate of fire, like Coronacht || the last Aspect || Special
for weapon like Varatha the Eternal Spear, Ares Curse of Pain is suitable for Spear's special
I almost always choose Divine Dash - Athena's deflecting dash
always on the move, don't stand still
Eternal Spear || the last Aspect || is the 2nd best after Adamant Rail || the last Aspect ||
for that spear aspect, you hold attack for a short time, release attack button, you'll see || Serpent Slash ||
it ||heals Zag 1 HP/hit||
BTW, don't hold || the attack button until max ||
unless you fight || weak enemies ||
is there some info on what the outcome is on room reward changing?
I suppose you mean which things you can reroll into?
If so, then this chart helps a fair bit https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png
thanks
Yeah well i ment which possiblities are available for certain rewards
like when there is Dyonisis which rewards are possible to appear
@sand escarp the hidden aspects are spoilers in this channel. Please use spoiler tags. 
Ok
For reference, you can use pipes || like this || to spoiler tag text || like this ||
Much easier than censoring every name
And also because you want to tag || the abilities, including healing Zag with the spear aspect ||
Ok
Thank you for understanding ^.^
hello again, is there any way to see how far i have progressed with a weapon without starting a run with it? i lost which bosses i managed to kill with which weapon
A way to know will be unlocked later, after fully beating a run.
any way i can get more diamonds other than the broker
Yes. Though you'll have to defeat the final boss once for that.
Or buy them in the temple shop.
That's.... Not usually the best method.
It sure isn't, but worth mentioning.
At an early stage, saving up obol during a run to buy the diamond or a titan blood is a valid method if one gets walled by the final boss, but wants to make a few vital upgrades.
Surely if you are getting destroyed by the final boss, saving that much gold would be equally challenging if not more challenging
Hi friends! Any guide por new players? i've been like 4 days playing and i just got to the minotaur in the elysium and he deleted me
I feel like i dont get much further every run
There's a few good beginner guides in the Steam community if you are looking for easily accessible and compiled information. It may be outdated in places.
For example this one https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1961216101
something to keep in mind is that while darkness, gemstones, keys and nectar are physical examples of progression, your skills also improve after each run
Hello, I'm not really sure if I should place this question in tech support, but since I'm quite new to the game (just under 50 hours in)... I thought I'd ask here
Regarding Boss encounter number 2 in game, there is a significant delay in attack speed, music, and everything just slows down, even the main character...as if I'm playing in slo-mo.
This varies on each run, however. I think I'm on my...uhh... 61st death by now, having cleared multiple times, and I just want to ask if it's a normal thing or should I use F10 to report an issue, or it may be an issue with my computer specs itself. It only happens with Boss encounter number 2 😔
That sounds like a framerate issue. Do ask in tech support. I think some players solved that issue by toggling VSync. F10 whenever you see something unusual like that, too!
Thank you! I'll make note of it during my next run if it happens again
I'm slightly confused on how to get the ||aspect of guan yu||, I understand you need to ||spend 6 blood|| and ||beat the game with the spear||
does it say that you can spend ||the blood|| on any weapon or only on spear
first off Hidden aspects are spoilers
you can use "||" on either side to spoil text
@lunar fossil || hidden Aspects || are spoilers, please tag them (and most of that message, actually) with || two bars on either side like this ||
Secondly, check the pins in #h1-story-discussion for || hidden aspects ||
I can tell you that what your heard is not correct
is there any kind of hint if the encounter has a fishing spot? or do i have to search the area after every fight?
You should hear a ding after you kill the last enemy
Sometimes Zag will also comment on it
yeah i read about the ding but there is a ding after very fight
but just now (after asking) i heard it for the very first time and it is very distinct and now i know what to "look for" thx
o7
more like a dock bell sound
damn, got out once, didnt clear, now it seems like i cant get past Asphodel now
This is probably a silly question but is there any way to view all the boons I currently have active on me during a run?
Press B
(on keyboard).
Controllers probably have a different button assigned to it.
Many thanks
Controller (xbox one) is the select button
this does not pause the game
is there some kind of trick to fishing? or are rarer fish rly rly rare? cause i am only getting like 3 of the same over and over
You can get Perfect Catches with good timing, which improves the odds of getting rarer fish.
There's three tiers of fish in each area, and the highest tier can't be caught with regular Catch.
i see, gonna look up about perfect timing thx!
Fishing:
(time in seconds)
perfect catch (0-0.34) guarantees a rare and gives a 5% chance at legendary
a "fast" catch (0.34-0.68) has a 5% chance of rare, no legendary
a normal catch (0.68-1) will get you a common fish
after 1 second, no fish
is there any feedback ingame about how fast i was?
got a prophecy ingame with the wording "very rare fisih" does this refer to "legendary" from above?
Yeah
Game saves after every boime yes?
Cause i bluescreened during transition between Asphodel and Elysium
okay, it won't load right there
check #h1-tech-fixes for help loading back to where you were
sometimes the god orbs "ping" two times when activating , i thought this would indicate some kind of rarity of the boons but i guess not, does it indicate anything else?
it indicates they have new dialogue you havent seen yet
thx!
It will say perfect catch if you get one
I’ve literally never seen that. Am I just too slow? 🥺
oof, possibly. I can recommend some tricks to catch it faster?
Or maybe I just don’t read it because im focused on the fish
also possible
You told me about covering the float. That actually helps
o7
I catch scuffers every time in Styx so I’m probably doing it right and just not getting lucky
is it possible to not choose any boon when offered?
man , every run without the shield weapon is a struggle 😢
you'll keep getting better ^.^
Don't worry! the more you get used to each weapon the better you'll be! just gotta get through those learning curves! 
Got to learn the attack patterns for the bosses, and when to dash
do attack boons influence dash attacks?
yes
Yep, generally.
only hammers differentiate between attack and dash attacks (usually, anyways...)
in all other cases, dash attacks are considered attacks
Yeah, hammers are the main exception that comes to mind.
holy crap. looks like it, hidden spear aspect + triple dash strike + artemis dash AND artemis special seems like a lot of damage
Yup.
-20% dash distance is something I'm not good at though, is there any useful advice?
Uh. Try to get more dashes 😄
There really isn't too much to do about it 😄
yeah, I'm... quite terrible with it, take a heck of a lot more damage than I should
and having half health on top of it... this run may not go all the way :p
Hi im new 🙂 I am currently playing the spear and bow as my main weapons (will try the eagle thingy later) but I cant pass || thesis and minotaur boss fight on the third floor || and I think its because I dont know how to build correctly. Is there any guide that can help me out?
Welcome! There isn't a strict guide (other than us :P), but we can give you some solid pointers. With the spear, you want to get a strong boon for your special, and when fighting || Theseus and Asterius, try and focus down Asterius first ||. Aphrodite, Demeter, and Poseidon are all good bets for your special, and Athena for your dash and/or attack is also good
for bow, you want to rely on dash strikes, as they charge faster and keep you mobile
the special is good for spreading status effects around the room, but by itself it isn't great
twin shot is great single target, triple + chain is great crowd control (and gives a little aim forgiveness), explosive is slow but does a lot of damage (and you don't need to charge it up all the way)
perfect shot, point-blank, and distant are personal preferance
I got this game two months ago but didnt get into it because I was not in the mood
Now I do 2-3 runs everyday 😄
nice!
Its a really fun game
yeah :D
got 7 of the big ambrosia bottles and still dont know what they are for. Am i missing some kind of progress elsewhere or should i just play on?
Ambrosia is used for improving relationships after reaching the nectar maximum, and upgrading certain gifts you will receive from a select few characters.
i see! thx a lot
Also very useful after you max the relationships is that Ambrosia can be traded for Titan Blood at a 1:1 ratio
is it better to completely clear the temple of styx or move on once you find the sack?
Depends on how much you want one of the remaining rewards, how confident you can do it within your current amount of life/Death Defiances, or timer if you're using Tight Deadline
99% of the time? Move on
The ending rooms in Styx can be quite threatening and it's almost never worth it unless you're very sure you can do it safely/quickly
i feel like I would want the rewards but the full heal from the sack chamber is really nice
also I cant beat the boss
If you're struggling against ||final boss|| the answer is definitely "never," as doing the side chambers will just drain more life, and the circumstances in which the first 2-4 chamber rewards you got weren't enough is next to 0.
@molten ridge @astral valley || final boss || is considered a spoiler in this channel
Sorry, thanks
sorry just started playing last week
No worries ^.^ Welcome to the game!
is it better to focus on one god's boon? i usually bounce between 3 or 4 on a run depending on what I get early
3 or 4 is normal. Some Gods, Zeus in particular, stack extremely well with themselves
You do want to typically focus on one thing though (not including say applying a second curse for Privileged Status). In most games, you want to make sure you're utilitizing all of your buttons, but this game definitely rewards specialization
what is the door to the left of achilles with the skull over it? Is it not in the game yet or I need to unlock it?
a lot of stuff is just "play the game some more"
is dmg vs weak (10->14%) the same as urge to kill (8->12%) as both are 4% or is one increased and the other multi? (is this even a thing in this game? coming from path of exile)
I believe they both affect your damage in the same way (additive % increase), though the 4% isn't relevant to that
@molten ridge I think you would know? (sorry for the ping)
From a Path of Exile lexicon, Chaos, and ("some") Hammer mods are treated as More multipliers. Everything else is Increased/Reduced.
Crit is treated the same as it is in Path
Chaos modifiers are additive with themselves though. Similar to Crit Multi in Path (and Hades), where, say for example, you get Clean Kill at rare, which is 20ish% Crit Multi, that's not 20% MORE crit multi, it gets added to your base 200% crit multiplier.
Edit: I realize now that that phrasing is very confusing for people who hvaen't played Path. "More/Less" is used to denote multiplicative bonuses, and "Increased/Reduced" denotes additive bonuses.
Small exception include Heart Rend, which is a 50% more multiplier to your total damage if you get a crit against a weak enemy
@molten ridge thx!
@tender thistle I made a minor (but important) correction. Apparently "most" hammer mods provide additive bonuses, but "some" provide multiplicative. It's literally case by case. Womp womp.
How do people avoid ||the lava in Asphodel||? ||I find the spaces (even the exit ramps) so tight that it's easy to take unintended damage, especially after dashing into an area.||
Practice, honestly. And learning how far a dash goes so you don't have to think want it
You'll see even season vets doing a slow careful crawl to the door when they're at 1 life no defiances lol
hey, I am gonna start my first run with the shield, any specific gods/boons I should be going for 🙂 ?
for a first run? who cares! try new stuff
okay 😄
shield doesn't attack super quickly, so I don't think I'd do Dionysus or Zeus attack, the shield bounce is pretty good with Doom
I was able to reach the final boss with the sword yesterday, got him to half hp then he got me...
remember that you have access to somewhat of a ranged attack, and that blocking IS an option
niiiice!
the last boss is a genuinely tough fight, you'll get there
m1 hold is the block?
uhh... normal attack hold
yeah okay 😄
im playing on keyboard+mouse
@jaunty maple sorry for the ping but this is my first dionysus boon but should I take drunken dash, dio aid or after party
I’m a newb too and don’t know the names .P
ohhh haha
The dash is very good in some places. You’re not deep into the mirror?
I can pm you the pics
(40 hours, almost 60 plays, so not that bad! Just don’t know the names)
@unique tendon a little bit late, but Athena is good for the special. Make good use of your block, but try not to let yourself get stuck in one spot ^.^
@unique tendon a little late, but if you get offered dio's aid, you should take it. It has ridiculous DPS
thank you guys ❤️ I did get the dio call and im about to fight the final boss ;-;
only 1 revive left and like 163/250 health
best of luck!
should I just keep throwing my shield at the boss? I have the doom affect
At this point, focus on the fight o7
nice! keep at it :D
hmm got the hammer as first pick, should I take snap nova, super nova or cruel thrust
any of those could work, I might go for Super Nova and build into a high-damage special boon
o7
second floor got a dio call and one of the picks are your special inflict hangover
hmm..
either drunken strike (physical) or drunken floruish (special)
I can give you suggestions, but a lot of this game is experimenting and figuring out what's fun for you ^.^
Personally, I would go for strike, and hold out for a high-damage special boon, but with a larger radius, you can apply hangover to more enemies with your special. So both have potential value :D
Truee
yeah generally I prefer hangover to be on very fast things (fist/gun attack, weirder specials)
@ornate remnant you should check out my build...
oh?
special is stronger and can deflect, your special is 12% faster. special is wider, special can hit twice
🙂
and im ramping up HP, already at 275
also got poseiden's dash, damage+knockback
I know this game is in early access but are achievments planned 🙂 ?
Achievements are planned for full release.
nice 😄 !
does striking refer to only physical attacks or does it also count to special attacks?
In context of which boon?
Eris bangle
Applies to everything.
awesome!
ok here I go again to the final boss... this time I have a respectable build and im full hp with 3 revives
congrats!!!
kinda underwhelming
now I can try winning with a different weapon or wait till full release
It's up to you.
woohoo!
There's piles and piles of dialogue for you, and greater challenges, if you want them.
im having fun so theres no reason to stop 😄 !
using the gun atm, how does the aspect of hestia work with delta chamber hammer upgrade (+3 no reload) , will i gimp my run with this or tripple my dmg? xD
Neither nor. It can manually reload as usual, and empowers one shot still.
Though I'd be wary in general of Delta Chamber. It's something of a meme in the community how bad it is. If you were, say, on Zagreus Aspect, it would likely ruin the run. It is basically textless on Hestia though.
It doesn't do anything on its own. It would have a use with Spread Fire, but are they even compatible?
According to the wiki, they aren't.
Dang.
What is the purpose of bringing the relationship with Gods over 1 Heart or even over the Golden heart with Ambrosia? Why should i give them Ambrosia?
You will forge a bond with them at full hearts - for now it's only flavor, but who knows, maybe that changes with the full release.
Also, some gods have prophecies that appear to be linked to an at least partially filled affinity.
So, even with a bond (i have with Athene) don't give you any higher Rarity or chance for the boons?
you get better rarity from boons through the mirror upgrade and keepsakes
The bond has no influence on rarity of boons, or the functionality of the keepsakes.
Some people have left feedback to change that, but whether that's implemented will be up to the devs.
So, even with a bond (i have with Athene) don't give you any higher Rarity or chance for the boons?
If I'm not wrong but I think it was chaos who stated it the best way on how relationships above the first level work. It went along the lines of "You are aware that you will gain nothing from these constant offerings to me?" and Zagreus said something like he is aware but he wanted to give them anyways. I think its nice because I gave most of my nectar and Ambrosia to people simply because I wanted to know more about them and simply want to show my affection for these fictional characters somehow. But that's probably just me.
It's intended to be something you do for the sake of showing your affection. It's not intended to be something you do just to get rewards.
I couldn't agree more
Well, that's more or less what Greg said lol.
And it makes sense
gods romance when
@vivid patio Where was the msg saying that there won't be more romance options?
Do the god keepsakes like Zeus' work only once an escape or does it refresh at the end of every underworld region
Pretty sure it's once per escape so it's worth to switch them, unless you still need bonus rare chance
I just did them because I really like all the gods.
They're so well characterized and fun.
Even creepy cousin Ares who absolutely has a freezer full of heads.
I'm afraid a single freezer isn't enough for his legendary collection
Unless you consider the Demeter's playground aka the surface
So the rarity upgrade is throughout the run?
As long as you carry the keepsake. Let's say you switch the Thunder Signet for the Vial of Blood, you lose the bonus for Zeus and gain it for Ares - and you are guaranteed one Ares boon.
Alright thanks
I absolutely believe the first clear is the biggest roadblock
Gotta beat the game once to really play the game
Actually the second clear is probably bigger
You get confident with first win and then wonder why runs keep failing afterwards

At least you get modifiers and can farm bounties after first clear
The hidden aspects are all teasing me with their upturned skirts and i cant do anything about it short of grinding gemstones and nectar
@obsidian locust was wondering why I woke to a ping in this channel lol https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1239708946224410625
@UnderlandDgtl There are several romance paths in the game. We have no plans to add more, though do have plans to add content for each of the characters in the game, and add one additional character yet to be revealed.
Lol sorry and Thanks!
Hi! Where can i find moemories list and how to get them?
If you mean the fated list of minor propecies, it's sold by the house contractor and will then appear on the desk in Zagreus' room.
Nope, sorry, i just translated from spanish version, i mean the box just before you start, where u choose the "accessory". The thing you get when giving nectar
I just to give the right nectars to get the rigt gigts
gifts
Oh, I see. Keepsakes, then.
You can get them from all characters but one by gifting one nectar to them.
hahaha, in spanish is "recuerdos" which is just "memories"
They will appear in the courtyard.
There is a cabinet on the left side
A later upgrade allows you to access them during a run between regions.
Ah, I follow what you're asking for! @marble vigil
You can find them listed out on the wiki, along with each person they go with
In general though, just giving nectar to everyone is a safe option
guys can i get enough titan blood to update every aspect or should i be careful in what i choose?
You can trade resources for titan blood and also buy it in final chapter of the run so it's definitely something you can use somewhat loosely
In addition, if you decide after getting a new Aspect (or spending Blood on an Aspect) that you don't like it, if you Give Up during your first run with it, it'll revert to before you spent the Blood, as long as you didn't leave the courtyard before starting
thanks 👍
o7 best of luck!
Hi guys i'm a new player and I would like to know how long does a run last on average? For example I like Risk of Rain because I know that when I start a run, It will often take more than one hour to finish it and I find it satisfying. Anyway if it wasn't the case for Hades I would still love this game but i'm interested to know
*I mean how long a finished run last (because I didn't get past asphodel so I don't know what happens next)
My runs average around 40-60ish minutes real time
I'm decently fast, but I frequently alt-tab to this server even in the middle of a run (decently fast being averaging 20 minutes by the run timer, which is not the same thing as in-game time)
Ok that's nice ! good to know thank you
Sure thing ^.^
Yeah, they seem to be around an hour for full completion, maybe down to 45 minutes when you go fast
Usually around 35 minutes real time for me now at this point. If you're starting out, it's gonna be a lot slower, of course.
Although, some people are really fast right from the start.
Is it just me, or are all the invulns (and stealths in the final fight) really frustrating?
I've been loving every single thing about this game except when a boss bubbles itself :/
its to prevent you from insta-killing a boss. And well they're bosses, they should give you a hard time.
I've just finished unlocking every keepsake, but i'm not sure what ones are good besides the coinpurse. any recommendations on which I should level up first?
@blissful marsh say for instance you're on a run and want to seek out a certain boon from a specific god that will synergise with your run, I find you will naturally level up god specific keep sakes like this
So in that case, whichever god keepsake that has the boons you find fun are good to level up. I also personally find that somewhere towards the end of a run I'll take the broken spearpoint for defense
The distant memory can be a really nice boost to damage if you're keeping foes at a distance. The Lucky Tooth can give you that extra life you need if you lost all your death defiances early on
Starting off with the shattered shackle can be a quite fun also
Cheers
Also do you know which god gives the highest %base damage increase on attacks?
I don't know for certain but I seemed to find that Aphrodite's attack has highest % on it. I wonder to myself whether it's equivalent to the potential damage increase you can get from Artemis' bonus damage + the increased crit strike it offers.
If you're looking for raw damage Aphro is on top followed by Poseidon and Demeter.
It is worth nothing though that Artemis crits can lead to much higher damage.
I see. I had been considering the weighting that was given to the different status effects on each boon. So like I guess the damage reduction offers the least potential damage output so they tweak its value higher. Poseidon has the potential for knockback into walls, demeter offers a slow which is great utility so it make sense to do less damage
Then every attack you throw with artemis you're rolling that dice for those sweet, juicy crits
depends on rng though tbh on getting crit hits, so if u want consistent high damage aphro is the best way to go
however if you have a weapon with high fire rate (the rail or fists), the crit damage might be worth it
Ahpro is very nice for damage reduction and max health, so if you get to greedy and take a hit trying for the 3 hit combo on arthurs sword its less punishing
i have using arty strike and chaos boons on 4th aspect of the sword done pretty consistent 2k+ dmg
Aphrodite's stuff generally has the highest raw damage.
Her flourish is the highest modifier as well.
however if you have a weapon with high fire rate (the rail or fists), the crit damage might be worth it
Attack speed is honestly irrelevant for whether crit is good or not.
Crit is basically a damage modifier. It's just buried in math and higher variance RNG.
What ultimately matters isn't the damage you do but the number of hits you need.
To kill an enemy you mean? Yeah.
Or to break armor.
Yup yup. So it can be hard to measure the value in a vaccum.
But saving yourself multiple hits with a big slow weapon like Hestia aspect is worth a lot.
Smaller crits indeed are more suitable against regular targets, as less potential is wasted
Although one cannot deny getting huge crit numbers is a joy for eyes to see
Also technically hunter's mark is more suitable for big hits
What a dangerous question to ask.
Everything involving the last fight is so far up spoiler territory that I wouldn't want to answer it here.
I'd just tell you that no final boss is safe from second phase curse 
Always be prepared
is the reload on the rail tied to movement speed? had a chaos boon which reduced move speed, and reload seemed really slow (might just been the animation)
That's an interesting observation. Does that happen with the moving reload only, or with the stationary reload too? I'd
that just in case
this agme is hard
lol
im at run 20 or so and got for the first time to the 4th floor and now im just like wtf is even going on
That's reasonable
i thought its over after floor 3
but on the first room i did on floor 4 i took like 150 damage
lol
i think my build is op too
im just gonna see if i can play slower
i just kinda feel overwhelmed
and im running on 240 fps on a high referesh screen
lol i got lucky i got the quest thing on room too
should i try to do more rooms
How are you doing for health?
Generally, unless I'm doing well on health and confident I can easily clear them, I won't bother with extra rooms
well i was full health from the last boon i got
i got to the third phase (of the first health bar if there are mulitple) im not quite sure how to deal with the grey bubble guy it creates too much trash on the screen and takes so long to kill
Grey bubble...?
Probably soulcatcher
Mm, yeah
The way to deal with that is to attack, the "trash" can be removed 
Both work
Depends on if you have armor piercing
(an attack that does bonus damage to armor)
man that dusa trinket seems to be pretty good
i also just realized i never unlocked the rest of my talents on the mirror
since i last played when the mirror was different
well after this run
wops
i got demeter on both shield attacks that seems pretty damn good as well ol
Nice!
@ornate remnant good you made trhat comment about armor, i kind aforgot how armor works and now i just picked +400% armor damage on special on spear and realized i can just stagger ejnemies if tehy have no armor ...
Yup lol
man there is alot in this game
it has alot more depth than i thought in terms of systems interactions
are the daedalus weapon upgades the highest priority rooms usually?
seemns to me that way
they're usually run defining, so a lot of weapons prefer them
some don't, but generally speaking you want them (since you can only get a limited amount)
Sometimes if you have one particular hammer upgrade that's really strong, you don't care too much about whatever the second hammer can offer you.
Sometimes you do a cast build and don't care for hammers at all.
There's a lot of variety, and different runs will prioritize different things even if you went into the run with the same strategy.
And there's also just simply different playstyles from different people who prioritize different things—and yet can all be very successful.
mhm
sounds good
i got the triple spear upgrade which was pretty nice
but i didnt do enough single target
the arena boss fight is so spongy and spammy 😄
theres no way i can see the base damage of my weapon i suppose? because theres alot of +n% damage and i can never tell which one is best
you can also not see hwat is a boon and what is an upgrade
easily
im thinking if it could be +ev to just spam boons and then sell them
You'd have to rely on skelly to see base damage of weapons
yeah but i always forget
But after that, most attack boosts are additive so it's easily calculated
so i dont know if special +50% + dot or special +110% replacement is better
i.e.
but i guess all damge value are between 15 and 30
Well, take a good few minutes and don't forget and test
Altho yeah, most numbers are around that
Bow special is 10, some of 4th aspects have a lot higher than 30 dmg
is he locked behind progress now?
okay i played like 4-5 hours
That's luck sometimes.
You can use Fated Authority if you have that unlocked to try and force him.
games pretty good tho not gonna lie 😉
and i love they made it so it runs 240 fps
i was pretty astonished
Zeus is scripted to appear as first boon on second run so he is definitely not locked away
Also huh, 240fps? Yeah that's p nice
A lot of games have physics bound to framerate so that will make them go apes 
i mean with run, you can realistically run it
damn it i lost at the arena again
an di was sooooo op
i had 0 problems until then
i need to learn "king" properly
wait is there dialog missing or did i get a bug bc ppl stopped talking to me
i mean voiced
alright i reported it
zeus still hasnt shown up btw 😄
maybe i see if i can get the trinket
wth
after i reportd the bug the lines started to be voiced again
wth
Hahaha, neat
Could've been just a few lines missing
If nothing else, restarting the game will fix it
How do i use dashing flight of the shield?
You dash and throw it?
Isn't it the other way around?
wait really? that explains a lot haha
quick question where here on this server could I find the rest of the links like this one? https://i.imgur.com/6727c2E.jpg
they're all on the wiki! hades.gamepedia.com
Pinned messages in the builds-and-combat channel!
It's a little underneath the weekly challenge pin.
ah, the pins. of course. thank you!
There's no general chat so i'm just gonna say, anyone else just like to sit and vibe with the Eurydice song in Asphodel?
Yes, absolutely
It's very nice to just sit and chill for a couple minutes with her
Chilling in Asphodel.
just the right temperature for chill
That's the name of the song, right?

#h1-discussion is the 'general' Hades chat 

Congrats! 🎊
Here's to the first of many
Take a screenshot and post it in #h1-victory-boasting
i didnt take one 
S'all good, still a victory!
hey where can i find more of those hearts thing that can evolve my weapon?
yeah, srry i had forgotten
no worries! You can get more initially by playing with each weapon and beating the first boss. After you've done that with each weapon, the only way to get more is to || beat the final boss || or trade for it (just don't use up all of your Ambrosia in trade)
and theres a way i can see if I already beat whit a weapon or not?
not until you've || beaten the final boss ||, unfortunately
got it, thanks a lot
hey, how can i use the fishin rod?
walk up to a fishing spot & there will be a button prompt to "Fish"
they look like this
you'll also hear a "ding" sound effect if there's a fishing spot in the room, after you clear the encounter (if there is one)
usually there's a little under 1 fishing spot per biome, so if you dont find any, there might just not have been any that spawned. Final biome has a much higher change of getting a fishing spot
thank you so much
Hello everyone. I started playing Hades a few days ago. I love this game but I felt I had a very hard time finishing a run for the first time (25 runs before I managed to do it). Mostly, the hardest part for me was the last floor. But then I read on internet you could get rid of the poison by drinking in fountains and this permitted me to finally overcome that! It seems to me this feature isn't well explained in the game, or did I miss something?
You're sort of supposed to figure that out on your own as a player. The mandrake pools will emit light that attracts you when the screen is clouded with poison, and standing next to them will show [button prompt] CURE even outside of battle. Still, from the perspective of a new player, Zagreus' voicelines offer little to explain this mechanic. He says "need a cure" instead of "need a mandrake", for example. If you think he should be more obvious, perhaps leave a feedback?
For me I kinda figured it out because it did nothing when I drank it normally, then understood the first time I got poisoned
But yeah it isn't really in-your-face about it
I thought the "Cure" prompt meant more like "Cure wounds" and stuck to that in my mind... And since it did nothing I thought it was just a troll lol...
You are right, I should leave this as feedback.
why i cant leave feedback?
Hey can anyone confirm what the criteria is to unlock weapon aspects? I just unlocked them
Really? Cause when I first unlocked f very weapon it wasn't there and it wasn't until a run or two later (after the second time I'd beaten meg) that tho option showed up.
That makes sense, most things require a run to update
Sure thing o7
Dies finishing the small rooms in Styx helps leveling up our keepsakes?
Also, how to get Patroclus name from the unknown man in Elysium?
||I love this game but i feel like hades is such a "ghouls n ghost" tier boss||
Like I struggle to get him one time
I feel like i'll never be able to beat him twice and finally end a run
@marble nest open the codex
@sleek wigeon you can totally do it, do you have all three Death Defiance unlocked? just keep practicing!
@jaunty maple I actually have 2 unlocked, still farming to unlock all passive on the mirror
Ahh, yeah I finished my first run the same moment I unlocked my third... didn’t end up using it though haha
I feel like I can do it but I'm really having a hard time with his moveset, I miss the dodge of his spear aoe like 3 times out of 4
I was using dionysos boon so I couldn't see the little white circle that tells you it's coming
hey, how do I get the fourth buff of a weapon?
like, I already beat the game twice so I really dont know
You can find the instruction in pinned message of #h1-story-discussion
check pins in story and spoilers
how can I optimize my build in the best way? I think the weapons I'm the most efficient with for the moment are the sword and the shield
the sword probably wants duo boons
the best build I've gotten in a new file is Ares attack, athena special and dash, and true shot, with merciful end and deadly reversal
anything with hunter's dash and a lot of damage is also good
e.g. aphro or artemis attack
@tepid vale thanks for the tips, what is e.g. ? sorry i'm not a native english speaker
pretty much just an abbreviation that means "for example"
okay thanks ^^ sorry for the dumb question haha
not dumb at all! no problem
I don't know what true shot, mercifuel end and deadly reversal are, these are god boons aswell?
true shot is artemis's cast
oh right I seee
guess I should put the game in english, would be easier to find good tips about boons and builds
I was wondering, I got my relation with charon maxed out but I didn't see what it actually does, is it some kind of true ending stuff?
merciful end and deadly reversal are duo boons
powerful effects that require you to have specific boons from multiple gods
duo boons looks really good from what i've seen
there's a special thing to do to get em or is it random?
with the core boons I listed, you can get both of them
Re: Charon: || unfortunately, nope. Most of the relationships don't have a mechanical change for maxing them out—though some of them do, and you'll get story rewards from all of them ||
duos have specific prerequisites, and once you fill them it's just random whether you get them
For Duo boons, they require you to have one (sometimes a specific one) of each God's boon
Ooh, that's a good one
And I realised that I have demeter and athena
actually playing the "rifle"
since I had the darkness buff on it
Makes sense
I love the athena dash
Feels really good when you're a beginner
struggling to dodge heavy stuff
I got a run where I got to try the weapon modifier that gives you 3 grenades instead of 1
I love that one xD
Feels really good when you're a beginner
@sleek wigeon it'll feel good forever
Gotta say it was really fun, those buffs are random too or there is some kind of way to trigger them as
Yup, they're random
But, you're guaranteed to get a couple
By the end of the entire run
You'll get there!
The more I play the game the more I love it but I feel like i'll never beat the last boss
Everytime I get crushed like, worst than the last one
you can actually usually avoid hammers, if you want to
and I personally have gone entire runs with only one hammer when I wanted to have two
^also true, I should clarify: You're guaranteed to be offered a couple
sorry for the french language, but I don't know what I should go for here
the last one seems very good too
Yup
You'll want Delta at some point for the Prophecy, but it's not very good
Rocket is one of my favorites
Depends on your build, I've had an attack build that melted everything, even the final boss
thanks for helping by the way, this community is as good as the game
you'll win if you keep trying at it
once you learn the timing for the final boss's movesets it gets easier, and you're guaranteed to eventually get a broken build if you just try new stuff
My last run was like a crazy attack spear build where you can't channel your attack
but you attack like a damn flash dude
Ooh, nice
Was fun all along the run but I actually tickled the last boss
And since I was using dionysos on dash
I couldn't see the damn white circles around him
I love how the story keeps going on when you die and retry, but it seems the game also gets harder right? Like I got a ||rat encounter|| at some point that was litterally more dangerous than mr blondie and his bullbuddy
Those are randomized, actually
Like when you meet the bull alone?
Ok
about the gifts you can make to the different characters, they give you a relic only on the first one?
So I don't waste any juice
Wanted to make Dusa happy but if it's worthless I'd rather use them for trading
For some characters, you'll get more rewards down the line
And you'll learn more about the story from every character
I have a hard choice to make
I'm actually wondering which one to take between the second and the last one
exposed status looks good
How far into the run are you?
I just arrived in the 2nd biome
Last one
last one is a prereq for literal invincibility
low rarity divine dash with brilliant riposte is a build by itself
so that's pretty solid
dio's call is the best dps, but zeus is also very good
poseidon is mediocre damage, but the invincibility makes it worthwile
so now that I have divine dash and brilliant riposte I should get a last boon that gives tankyness?
talked about litteraly invincibility 😄
well looks like i didn't get the very rare at charon lol https://i.imgur.com/iET0ZB3.jpeg
Does the last one affects poison ? I guess not
That's fine lol, last one there is good
Uhh
Kinda
Some poison is from a trap, some is from an enemy
Not sure exactly how it works out, but it does help
The gas traps in the satyr tunnels are affected, but the satyr/rat poison isn't
athena boons in minibosses are your best chance to see it
duo boons are also more likely in miniboss chambers
I still remember the first time I got one of those, was so cool
yeah I really got surprised by the duo boon
The duo dialogue was on point
The story and dialogues in general are pretty much insanely good
especially for a rogue like game
and even more for a hack n slash i'd say
Lol my gun is firing 5 rockets at once now
YEET
Woohoo!
https://i.imgur.com/5F6fV4s.png still no sight of the promised savior
guess i'll have to take the middle one now 😄
It is entirely possible you won't see it, but good luck!! Either way, an Athena build is quite good :3
I lov ethe 5 rockets buff hahah
soooo good at close range feels like a shotgun
https://i.imgur.com/JPDn3Vj.png is it the promised one?
it's just a heavier bow special
no, holy shield isn't what we were talking about
but it is good if you get mobbed
the thing with the bow is that
I want to love this weapon but I can't get the timing right
While I can make something with the gun most of the time
yeah well I can't get the promised one even on a miniboss boon hahahaha
Guess i'll just take the middle one and try to get ouuut*
I believe!!
You still have some chances for higher-rarity boons ahead of you
it completely eliminates damage from one hit, then recharges for 20 seconds
Woohoo!
as long as you onlyy get hit once every 20 seconds, or less than that, you don't take damage any more
Sure thing! Go for it, just don't get overconfident!
Zeus is pissed because of that but I got a prophecy complete
Zeus must be one of the characters that gets me the most
Always cracking a smile at least with his lines
I must admit that it's the first time I noticed that the god flavor text changes. I seriously need to pay more attention to this.
Can't remember to ever have seen the description "girl with grey eyes" for Athena before.
This guy's theme is 🙏🏽 https://i.imgur.com/rC5JihN.jpg
wish me luck with the heroes 😢 https://i.imgur.com/MbX9SR1.png
https://i.imgur.com/lstjfpn.png does it stacks with athena boon?
The gift from Patrocle
Stack isn't the right word. It will create a shield with a short duration after getting damaged, and has a separate cooldown.
Okaaay so I have 2 instances of shield at once?
but one has a longer cooldown than the other
While you do get more invincibility that way, it works like this: First damage removes Athena's shield. Second damage hits you, and puts Patty's shield up for a short time. It will vanish on its own.
So it will cover you for some time against continuous damage.
it's a triger on dmg
I'm wondering if I should take since i'm going in the last biom
You will notice its usefulness when faced with poison.
Also, snakestone beams will only hit you once. Just keep in mind that the keepsake will take some time to recover.
"To the top!" 
is there a way to know if my relic triggers?
like a visual effect or something on the boon bar
you'll see a shield pop up around you, and a cooldown circle will appear below it on the boon bar
i'm really feeling it this time!
it wasn't
at least this time i nearly got him but I wasn't expecting the "shoot em up" phase all of a sudden
ooh, yeah
yeah it got my ass kicked
- the green jars perma stunning me
he was a quarter life away from dying but it was too much for me haha
dang :S
I won't say i'm not disappointed haha but dying in this game always feels alright for some reason
yeah :D
Is there some kind of easy build I can go for ?
Because this one was fun but not really reliable on ||hades||
ahh, || final boss name is still a spoiler please :3 ||
I have 4 titan blood I can unlock some aspects I gues
yeah sorry for that, I try to keep it hidden everytime but I forgot here
No I only got the chaos aspect on the sword
and you don't have enough blood to max out the chaos shield, so that's a no go. Still, regular shield is solid
I realised what the titan blood is used for like 3 days ago lol
go for something like Aphrodite or Artemis attack, Athena special and/or dash
they're also good, just can be a bit harder
Zeus attack is stellar on those, plus Artemis dash (and hopefully support fire)
and I can't dodge/dash because of it
yeah
yeah I actually tried it out like 2hours ago
zeus attack on fists
seemed like a good idea because of high attack speed
I don't really get what the rarity does
it makes the stats better on boons ?
like I got this one, it's like +4 dmg than the regular one, right?
doesn't seem that much of a deal
