#h1-for-new-players | Supergiant Games | Page 122

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 AM

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How

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Fishing?

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Let me put diamonds on my fishing line to catch smth please

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 AM

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imagine being able to fish

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 AM

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I will sacrifice my diamonds for fish

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 AM

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and to think, there are people here who actually click too fast to get the lower rewards

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 AM

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Just so I can get a catch

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wait why tho

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isnt there literally no point

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its the same reward just different amounts right

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 AM

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as in, they always get perfect catches and never regular ones

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nah, there's 3 tiers of fish

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 AM

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yea like each tier of fish just gives diff # of the item of the area ur in

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 AM

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Imagine being able to beat elysium bosses(man I can't wait for my v1.0 save where I can be better than this)

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 AM

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right

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 AM

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95% lower tier/5% higher tier

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yes, but codex entries

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 AM

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not a codex player

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not rn at least

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wait when the game is updated do i need to start a new save file or smth

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Might leave the game for real tho

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 AM

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also, it's a form of humble bragging ron

jaunty jacinth Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 AM

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Maybe just take a week break @leaden whale

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 AM

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No I think I'll take a longer break than that

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Maybe a two month break(seriously)

jaunty jacinth Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 AM

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I get that

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 AM

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By that point 1.0 should be out

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 AM

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Will I run into horrible bugs or lose progress during Early Access?
We’ll do our best to prevent this. We have never wiped progress during Early Access development and intend to preserve saved progress through our v1.0 launch. If your game crashes and you lose progress, please check #h1-tech-fixes for how to recover save data.

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 AM

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nice

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 AM

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And I can create a new save then(because I want to)

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 AM

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any estimates on v1.0 release besides 2020

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?

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 AM

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later this year

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ron

ivory ocean Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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they haven't given a specific date yet

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Anyway, see ya'll whenever v1.0 comes out

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I'll be excited to play this game again

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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i really hope you decide to come back sooner, but if that's your choice i can't stop you

jaunty jacinth Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Yeah, it’s your choice

ivory ocean Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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a break can be a good thing, enjoy

jaunty jacinth Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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We’ll miss you

pulsar frigate Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 AM

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breaks are important

ivory ocean Jul 11, 2020, 5:06 AM

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also does anyone remember what room meg is in?

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:07 AM

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nope I am new

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wait i feel like 4th aspect unlocks are so obscure

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:12 AM

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well if you are starting out I doubt you have enough blood to unlock them anyway 😄

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:13 AM

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yea :P

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I need 4 blood

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 7:13 AM

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@ivory ocean chamber 14.

plucky hound Jul 11, 2020, 10:55 AM

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||Charon|| killed me

prisma moat Jul 11, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Bonk.

copper moon Jul 11, 2020, 11:50 AM

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So I got spear, fists and rail wins all with less than 3 tries. The stygian however is a thorn in my side. Any recommendations for boons and aspect? Considering going hard on weak and try to just tank more damage.

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 12:26 PM

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Some of the duos are pretty nice, my goto is poscast-dem duo

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but for sword itself, I think weak is nice

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Athena is nifty too

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 12:44 PM

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@copper moon Nemesis and either Divine Strike + Hunter Dash or Heartbreak Strike + Divine Dash are really good. But you'll need a lot of Titan Blood to max out Nemesis.

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Use Dash-Strikes a lot, and try to get Double Edge.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 1:19 PM

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welp

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I gave up on my hades fast

peak lynx Jul 11, 2020, 1:37 PM

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@leaden whale what issue are you having with elysium? just cant get past the duo boss?

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Just play hyper defensively. Kite the minotaur and chip his life away, dont worry too much about damage. once hes dead, do the same with theseus. just play super defensive and chip his life away

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 1:40 PM

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I have problem with his spear AoE

peak lynx Jul 11, 2020, 1:41 PM

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What weapon do you use?

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 1:41 PM

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whatever weapon has dark thirst

peak lynx Jul 11, 2020, 1:43 PM

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Using ranged against him is ideal imo. Both for killing Minotaur and for killing Thes. Stay away from melee range of him if possible and hit him with ranged. If not (sword), use 1 dash in, get a hit or two, then dash out. idk his melee mechanics as well as his ranged, but beating him relies heavy on chipping him away when hes not defending himself.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Ok

peak lynx Jul 11, 2020, 1:44 PM

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If you stay a distance from him and dodge his spear throw, he will take a few step backwards afterwards. Thats when youll want to dash in and hit him a few times before getting out.

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These games are a learning process. Dying is literally a mechanic that's meant to be used. If you cant beat a boss, then stop focusing on winning and just focus on what theyre doing. Youll pick up on patterns in every enemy

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 2:20 PM

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@leaden whale here's a tip for his spin attack, and for other attacks like that in general: do not dash when you fight him, or only use single dash-strikes at most. That way, you'll always be ready to dash away when you see him ready his spin attack. Make sure you drop your attacks when you see him ready, and then just dash away.

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I'm assuming you have Greater Reflex from the mirror already. If you don't, definitely make that a priority.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Ofc I have greater reflex

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I'm at the part where I'm grinding for the last death defiance

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Ah cool. That one will definitely help a lot.

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If you have a call during the fight, you can also use a lesser call at the same time you try to dash out of the spin attack.

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Calls give you i-frames upon activation.

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So it's like an extra safety net in case you mess up the dash.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I would rather have ares/poseidon call

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 2:26 PM

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It's also good for when you're caught off guard and are still recovering from previous dashes.

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Poseidon's Aid is especially great. I often hunt aggressively for either Poseidon's Aid or Dionysus' Aid in my runs.

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But even the i-frames from something like Dionysus' Aid help a lot.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Mainly because I like i-frames during the call

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Yeah

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Yeah, they all give i-frames on activation, though.

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I don't know with how much HP you go into that fight, but something upwards of 200 HP is a good idea.

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It doesn't hurt to aim for even more just to be safe. Makes messing up far less punishing because you don't lose DDs so quickly.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:19 PM

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ay another duo

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Not a amazing duo but

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Ooh which one?

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:21 PM

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calculated risk

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:21 PM

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@leaden whale I'm not really a fan of everybody telling you to stick to one weapon. Certainly, you'll learn any weapon faster if you just stick to it. But it's perfectly fine to switch weapons a lot, too. A lot of people do that and eventually beat the game that way.

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 4:22 PM

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^^

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:22 PM

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That's what I was thinking

ocean yarrow Jul 11, 2020, 4:22 PM

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where can i report bugs?

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:22 PM

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There are also a lot of things you will learn faster that way that are independent of your weapon.

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Press F10 in game to report bugs. squirtnya

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I must say, I have a fairly good bow athena run going

ocean yarrow Jul 11, 2020, 4:23 PM

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thanks

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Sure thing!

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 4:23 PM

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f10 @ocean yarrow

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:23 PM

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f10 we even have an emoji for it lol.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:25 PM

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If I can get a kiss of stx premium

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I would say I have a good chance at beating these guys

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Pray

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 4:27 PM

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I like the wallhaxs bouncing arrows hammerupgrade

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:27 PM

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why does it take so long for elysium enemys to respawn

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 4:27 PM

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Oh yeah, I ran ||Rama|| and the special arrows were bouncing no matter what

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I have to stand around for around 16 seconds for them to respawn

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*the eyeballs

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Makes elysium not fun because it's so easy

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 4:28 PM

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Isn't that better than them all rushing to pickup shields

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:28 PM

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you would think so

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But how fun is it to just shoot at sitting ducks

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imo not very

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 4:30 PM

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I'd take easy over getting trounced by a specific "meow"

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:30 PM

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All of elysium is slow except for me

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Probably just need to get a better computer

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except the eyeballs were working before

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And I just tried restarting my computer and reinstalling the game

stiff gazelle Jul 11, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Is it smarter to hoard titan's blood in the early game? Got 6 and I'm not sure whether to unlock weapon aspects or not.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:34 PM

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I just put one level into each weapon on zag aspect before anything else

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:35 PM

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wait rly?

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I jsut looked at what aspect i liked and unlocked it if it wasnt the default

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I dont think theres a point towards hoarding cuz afaik there arent any big costing titan blood upgrades or anything

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:39 PM

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You have performance issues in the game?

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You could see if you can get help in #h1-tech-support.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Welp, time for theseus and asterius

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 4:42 PM

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Best of luck

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I think I have a pretty good chance

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I do 516 a hit

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this is fun

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:45 PM

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That is quite a lot.

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Good luck!

stiff gazelle Jul 11, 2020, 4:47 PM

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hmmm I see I guess it really doesn't matter too much what you do with titan blood early game

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:47 PM

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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:48 PM

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🎉

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🥳

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:48 PM

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FINALLY THEY ARE DEAD

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Congratulations!

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:48 PM

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Feels good

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and thanks

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How many more area's are there

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:49 PM

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wp

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get ready for poison lol

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I'm in this styx place now

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Is ||cerberus the final boss||

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Ok good he's not

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:52 PM

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I mean u have to "defeat" him

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Do I have to got through all these doors

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what is this poison ahahahah

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I complained yesterday cuz i had bad rng and had to go through all of them

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 4:53 PM

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May RNG be with you

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:53 PM

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one of them has the loot thing ur looking for

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the rest do not

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:53 PM

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ohno

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also ranix

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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?

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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how many death defiances did you have/use when you beat the final boss

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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1

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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I have two, so I should be fine

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I hope

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:54 PM

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yea

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I have like rly low total essense tho compared to other ppl who post first time run completions

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so idk

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i might be an outlier

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wait is 1k essense for first clear low

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I used 2

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 4:56 PM

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jw

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:56 PM

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I am allowed to hate on this place right

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Almost lost a death defiance to that last room

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 4:58 PM

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It takes a lot to stun the poison-spitting things so don't bother trying to stun them with attacks. Do they even get stunned? I've learned to just dodge their spit because I can't remember ever staggering them.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:58 PM

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My main problem is the 3 pink laser snake guys

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 4:58 PM

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they can be stunned

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I just do wombo combo fist on em

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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Might be the armored ones I'm remembering

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I think I found what I needed?

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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you can cure it at the yellow fountain

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there is one in every room

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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I got a sack

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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final boss time

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 4:59 PM

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That's it

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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don't go to any more tunnel

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go pet the doggy

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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nah do more tunnels to play on hard mode

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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cerberus vanquished yes

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Try to beat the final boss without losing any Death Defiances. Trust me on this

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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👀

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:00 PM

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Oh the doors are locked now

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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btw I think I || took less dmg from 2nd phase from first ||

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Why, If I beat him there isn't any more zones so

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Just... don't blow all your death defiances all at once

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Anything I should go before opening this door

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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|| 2nd phase he just ran at me so i could kite ||

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pray

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Check out the shop?

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Can you buy stuff from Charon?

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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I got not enough money

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:01 PM

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then just pray

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and go

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

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no tips

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Best of luck, my dude

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No tips o7

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

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Good luck

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:02 PM

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welp

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If I die I have to beat elysium again

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fun

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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you can save scum

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but too late now

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I have to fight ||papa||

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Yup

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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yep

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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although beating the game organically is more fun

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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Wait you can save scum

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wew.

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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||daddy|| chunks hard

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:03 PM

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(also it's not too late, it autosaves when you walk in)

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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?

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what do u guys mean save scum

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Resetting to just before the fight

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But it's scummy xD

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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saving what now 👀

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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oh lol

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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basically make a copy of your current save file

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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very scummy I wouldn't do it

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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thats cancer

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Yup

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:04 PM

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then reload

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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oooooooooh

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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Ok seriously, the health bar is filling up any tips

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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good luck

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I've used it exactly once, and it wasn't for the final boss

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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?

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time

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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?

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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You're almost there

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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first time at boss you kinda need to learn his moves

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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I just finished his dialouge

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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just ... dodge a lot?

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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F

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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clap

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Might work

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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just kill him

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4head

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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take shield and learn his patterns

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:05 PM

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4Head

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:06 PM

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No, ffs

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He said he just finished dialogue

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:06 PM

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lol

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dont use ur DD

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yet

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I got confused when he said ||health bar filling up||

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mb

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:06 PM

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got confused as well kek

faint umbra Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Remember this channel is supposed to be spoiler free, please spoilertag the spoilers accordingly or delete them

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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wait

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wait

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wait

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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waiting

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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👀

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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why is his health bar filling up again

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Yeah, there's kinda way too much final boss fight chat in here. shadeembarassed

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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yes

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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HAHAHAHA

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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it is gone

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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||great a phase two cool||

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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delete ^?

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:08 PM

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spoiler tag that

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xD

latent berry Jul 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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And so much talk of || aspects ||

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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good thing I still have both lives

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I mean aspects are a grey area imo

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:09 PM

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I try not to talk about ||aspects|| here

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main discussion is fine, since patchnotes spoil that 😛

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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well he doesn't seem happy

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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ok

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:10 PM

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what are these ||green pots||

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||deal 30 dmg + stun ||

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:11 PM

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||traps, don't let them hit you||

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:11 PM

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|| dude those I had literally no clue how to deal with so i just stayed as far away as possible ||

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|| can u break them or smth? ||

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for future reference

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:11 PM

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yeah

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not at all

tepid tide Jul 11, 2020, 5:12 PM

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||yes, this is where I love my athena dash. any damage from you or papa will break them||

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:12 PM

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A punch from a ghoul can do a lot of damage and stun

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:12 PM

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it is out of context lol

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:12 PM

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arnooo is quite right

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:13 PM

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Alright, that's fair

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:13 PM

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LET'S GO

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:17 PM

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(apologies for overreacting to that, Arnooo)

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 5:18 PM

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np i understand spoilers can suck

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Is 2k ish essense average for first clears

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Dunno, idk if anyone keeps those kinda stats

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:26 PM

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kk

gray haven Jul 11, 2020, 5:27 PM

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The game has gone through so many patches that "first clears" are very very different for many many people.

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:29 PM

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ic

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Back in my days we didn't have that many duos

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And we liked it

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Kids these days and their duos

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Smh

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:30 PM

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Hahaha

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:31 PM

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Wait duos were a thing?

sly vigil Jul 11, 2020, 5:31 PM

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What do you mean duos were a thing?

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Duos have been a thing for a while, but not for every pair of gods

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SGG basically added a bunch of new Duos for the new patch

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 5:39 PM

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Now every god has a duo with every god

carmine pewter Jul 11, 2020, 5:46 PM

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As a beginner (less than 20 runs), should I mainly focus on farming keys and darkness while learning the game?

stiff gazelle Jul 11, 2020, 5:47 PM

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Yes and when do you stop farming keys and darkness

ornate remnant Jul 11, 2020, 5:47 PM

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That's a valid way to do it

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Learning how to dodge attacks will help you a lot in the long run

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(and in the short run, for that matter)

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:49 PM

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if im farming blood should I just up heat a little and farm the first boss with each weapon

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and just suicide after

obsidian locust Jul 11, 2020, 5:50 PM

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I mean no

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But

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You should always finish runs

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Or at least try to

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:51 PM

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You can't skip

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It just completes the lowest heat uncompleted x.x

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:51 PM

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Like I need 2 blood to unlock an aspect

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also i dont rly get heat just unlocked it

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 5:51 PM

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You shouldn't sucide, because you will have to make your way past the final boss anyway to unlock the next level. You're wasting time if you just throw a run away, together with the opportunity to learn, and maybe even a good build.

dawn hound Jul 11, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Play your runs normally, yoi don't earn that much darkness in normal rooms rewards

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 5:52 PM

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mk

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 5:52 PM

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Still your game though, if you want to do that lul

real nova Jul 11, 2020, 7:44 PM

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hi . im kinda new to the game (use to roguelike game). Im totaly stuck at stage 3 mini boss. the big pink ball who throw butterfly .i lose so many hp there and on the main boss of the stage the 2 guys.. anny advice ,tips? plz im at 30 run and i never pass them

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Destroy the butterflys with your attacks, then close in fast.

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Try not to be directly on the ball when you're meleeing though

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I always take damage if I'm like right ontop of it

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As for the big boys, try to split them apart and take down one by one- starting with minotaur

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 7:47 PM

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It has a slow turn speed. So even though it has no back, you can exploit that with hit-and-run tactics.

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 7:47 PM

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what's his face puts an indicator on you when he is about to throw it and it'll fully turn red when he throws it. Can mostly stay behind pillars though

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 7:47 PM

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If you run into the miniboss soulcatcher, take it out fast before the elite exalted overwhelm you.

real nova Jul 11, 2020, 7:48 PM

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on the pink ball did u focus the ball all the way or try killing add few time?

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Once minotaur is dead you can take your time with theseus

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attack after he recollect his spear as he has an opening then hide

real nova Jul 11, 2020, 7:49 PM

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ok thx i was focus the sheild guys and ignoring the minotor

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Goal of that fight is to memorize the patterns

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I mean you can fight shield guy first

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I think general consensus is minotaur first

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thanthink

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Depends on the weapon you bring. If you have a ranged weapon, whacking the souls can interrupt their respawn or even kill them before they do so while you can stay near the center of the room. But even that can be risky. Only attack the souls if they happen to get near the orb, is my advice, but there are different approaches out there.

candid nimbus Jul 11, 2020, 7:51 PM

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Butterfly is a hard one to give advice for

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tons of approaches x.x

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actually, why do you lose a lot of hp?

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

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I feel like the attack is rly slow so u can just essensially walk around it until it stops spawning them for a couple seconds?

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

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If you can improve damage against armor (by choosing a hammer upgrade, having Hide Breaker (Artemis boon) or buying a Nail of Talos), the orb miniboss and Elysium as a whole get a lot easier.

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 7:54 PM

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works whenever I fight it and I havent died to it yet

real nova Jul 11, 2020, 7:55 PM

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thx all

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i will try to br more focus on them

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and bte soory my bad english im french canadien 😛

orchid tulip Jul 11, 2020, 9:09 PM

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So, regarding the Titan's Blood used for weapon aspects, aside from the first ascension out of Tartarus with each weapon, how does one go about acquiring more?

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Beat the final boss.
Increase heat.
Repeat.

orchid tulip Jul 11, 2020, 9:11 PM

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hm... tall order.

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 9:25 PM

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There's also a number of prophecies to give an early boost.

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As well as Broker deals, and buying it off Charon for 1.5 grand.

hasty willow Jul 11, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Does Eurydice's Ambrosia Delight (2 boons to next rarity) upgrade Epics to Heroic?

uneven slate Jul 11, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Yes.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 10:07 PM

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I just died to tiny vermin

prisma moat Jul 11, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Oh mood

hasty willow Jul 11, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Woof, I know that feeling. Just lost one of my revives to vermin poison.

leaden whale Jul 11, 2020, 11:09 PM

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I had no revives

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Lost all my revives to theseus

cosmic swift Jul 11, 2020, 11:59 PM

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first heat run dying on || hades ||

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im mental boomed

lethal rain Jul 12, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Dying to [Redacted] is the most honorable way of dying tbh

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(even if one of the most painful as well)

leaden whale Jul 12, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Yeah I died to him as well

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Just wanted that titan blood

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And I had a really good run

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Guess I'm just bad

haughty idol Jul 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Hi, after unlocked all weapons and talents, what else need key ?, only for ||exchange in broker||?

pulsar frigate Jul 12, 2020, 1:15 AM

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yes, or if you ||need to respec your mirror||

late tinsel Jul 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Hey what are the requirements to unlock Guan Yu's spear Aspect?

pulsar frigate Jul 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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check pins in #h1-story-discussion

late tinsel Jul 12, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Ok thanks

untold goblet Jul 12, 2020, 3:56 AM

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So I have a question about hangover damage.

There are plenty of sources hangover can come from, and once you get the boon for it, each one will have its own hangover damage in its description. So for example, Peer Pressure has a different damage value than Drunken Strike.

How does that ultimately effect how much damage my hangover does? Does the game track which source added a stack of hangover and apply the variable damage according to that, or does each boon that applies hangover pool all the damage together per stack resulting in higher damage hangover if you devote yourself to a Dio build?

I'm trying to choose between 3 Epic Dio boons in Styx right now and I just realized I don't know the answer to this basic question lol.

gray haven Jul 12, 2020, 4:14 AM

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Hangover stacks up to 5 times. You can't overwrite stacks.

stiff gazelle Jul 12, 2020, 7:51 AM

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just beat the final boss

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wew

pulsar frigate Jul 12, 2020, 7:51 AM

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congrats!

stiff gazelle Jul 12, 2020, 7:51 AM

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felt it was cheap because I cheesed the last 2 bosses with lightning rod but still

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this was supposed to be a farming run

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tyty

stiff gazelle Jul 12, 2020, 8:26 AM

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Is there a condition to get Demeter

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*get Demeter's boons

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nevermind

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just got it

sterile solar Jul 12, 2020, 10:21 AM

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yes, or if you ||need to respec your mirror||
you also get a ||fated authority for collecting a key once you get the upgrade in contractor||

dawn hound Jul 12, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Does the dash without any boons have i-frames ? It seems it has, but i'm not sure

sterile solar Jul 12, 2020, 10:50 AM

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To unlock Demeter you need to ||reach hades fight once||

tepid tide Jul 12, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Does the dash without any boons have i-frames ? It seems it has, but i'm not sure
Yes it has

gray haven Jul 12, 2020, 11:45 AM

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Dashes have i-frames. Dash-Strikes don't have i-frames. squirtnya

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So if you do an attack during your dash, it will cancel your i-frames.

dawn hound Jul 12, 2020, 11:48 AM

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Okay, ty !

north pawn Jul 12, 2020, 11:50 AM

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say if i clear heat lv2 and havent completed heat lv1, will heat lv1 rewards still be around?

lethal rain Jul 12, 2020, 1:17 PM

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Ye, that's pretty much it

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It should actually show which heat level bounties you will get on the pact

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(personally finished 3 heat progression with 16 heat run ablobdab )

low badge Jul 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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does rare crop effect boons you get further in the run, or just the ones you have when you first pick it up

lethal rain Jul 12, 2020, 1:20 PM

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Only the ones that are there when you pick up the rare crop

low badge Jul 12, 2020, 1:21 PM

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ok sweet, thanks

gray haven Jul 12, 2020, 1:54 PM

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Please remember that everything past the first clear is considered spoilers. squirtnya

peak lynx Jul 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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Do boons stack additively or multiplicatively?

candid nimbus Jul 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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I believe additively

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Only hammer upgrades change base damage

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to my knowledge

peak lynx Jul 12, 2020, 3:15 PM

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ty

vivid crane Jul 12, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Actually they’re multiplicative I believe. That’s why you can’t build for 100% damage reduction

candid nimbus Jul 12, 2020, 3:18 PM

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Oh woops, got those switched in my head

lethal rain Jul 12, 2020, 3:19 PM

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Likely defensive go with multiplicative, while offensive is definitely additive

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To prevent insane stacking from either part

vivid crane Jul 12, 2020, 3:21 PM

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Not according to the wiki

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https://hades.gamepedia.com/Damage_Calculation

Hades Wiki

Damage Calculation

A high-level overview of the damage calculation process could be:

Damage = Base Damage
× (1 + Sum of Critical Damage Bonus)
× (1 + Sum of Regular Damage Bonuses)
× (1 × Product of (1 - Damage Reductions))

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Hmm is says crit chance is additive, which I wonder if that’s up to date or still the case. RNG stuff like dodge rolls separately for each individual source of it you have but maybe crits aren’t like that?

leaden whale Jul 12, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Hey, I hate that stupid rat miniboss in styx

gray haven Jul 12, 2020, 3:24 PM

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The damage formula on the wiki is accurate.

candid nimbus Jul 12, 2020, 3:24 PM

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Yeah that vermin gets me good

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I learned to just kite and poke it, won't win a direct confrontation with my playstyle lol

keen peak Jul 12, 2020, 4:37 PM

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What does the Cerberus Chamber Anvil?

uneven slate Jul 12, 2020, 4:38 PM

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It will delete one of your hammers and replace it with two random ones. Use at your own discretion.

keen peak Jul 12, 2020, 4:38 PM

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Ohhh, nice, ty

cosmic swift Jul 12, 2020, 4:43 PM

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I hate it

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:(

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killed a run for me

gray haven Jul 12, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Don't use it when you need the hammer upgrade(s) you have. dusa

lethal rain Jul 12, 2020, 4:54 PM

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Tbh one thing I don't like about it is that if you need only 1 hammer of 2 you have, it becomes a 50/50 gamble

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Easier to not bite the bullet given the cost of one so it's not a huge complaint

gray haven Jul 12, 2020, 5:43 PM

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I think it's just a lot of fun because it allows you to play with 3 hammer upgrades and try out new stuff.

lethal rain Jul 12, 2020, 5:46 PM

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If it wasn't only available right before the final boss probably it'd be a lot more fun to experiment with

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residentzag

broken anvil Jul 12, 2020, 8:39 PM

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yeah I just made it ||to the surface, fought Hades once and narrowly defeated him ONLY to find out he had a second form which I should have expected damn it||

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got KO'd in a second

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residentzag

broken anvil Jul 12, 2020, 9:24 PM

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gotta get tougher some how.. i kinda wish you could respec titan's blood

candid nimbus Jul 12, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Would be nice

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mirror upgrades are nice though

uneven slate Jul 12, 2020, 9:30 PM

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Hm, regarding your feedback, perhaps it's also a fallacy in thinking. Unlocking the fourth aspect is a fine aim in itself, but it's not necessarily a weapon that suits you better than the other three. Don't worry though, you will be able to earn new blood once you get past the wall that is the final boss.

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Aim to find the weapon that suits you best. At the early stages, the mirror has far more influence on your strength than the level of the aspect.

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Level up the keepsakes, too.

sterile solar Jul 12, 2020, 9:41 PM

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yeah I just made it ||to the surface, fought Hades once and narrowly defeated him ONLY to find out he had a second form which I should have expected damn it||
Lmao, welcome to the "sike" club

covert nacelle Jul 13, 2020, 12:49 AM

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|| https://img.ifunny.co/images/e05171a93962b80bce3bebfa71071f6253f928189a574bd4bb3bc34e75281fb9_1.jpg ||

dire plaza Jul 13, 2020, 1:35 AM

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@covert nacelle|| true story but I also think it should not be this easy and his health is not emptied, so I guess we have something else going on. Reserved 3 lifes for that = ]]||

covert nacelle Jul 13, 2020, 1:37 AM

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lol

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I admit, it got me the first time. Maybe not 100% shock, but I definitely wasn't prepared in the gameplay-sense

dire plaza Jul 13, 2020, 3:37 AM

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@covert nacelle || the only thing I didnt expect is full bar restored :)))||

faint umbra Jul 13, 2020, 6:24 AM

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@dire plaza please spoiler tag your messages, this is a spoiler free channel

dire plaza Jul 13, 2020, 7:50 AM

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@faint umbra I'm sorry. I edited the message.

mortal void Jul 13, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Hi guys! Im already playing for some hours now. But one thing that is still not clear for me:

When a boon says for example something like: your attack becomes a 3 sequence hit with 35 base damage
Or next time your attack deals xx damage.. etc
Do they mean it's specifically your attack skill (xbox controller X), or does your dash strike also count as an attack? Or is dash strike seperate from an attack? I know that your special is just your special.
I find myself often spamming the dash + attack button. So it does a mix of dash strikes and attacks I guess. But yea...it would be nice to know what the heck I am actually doing..

median totem Jul 13, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Dash strike is seperate from attack.

pulsar frigate Jul 13, 2020, 9:18 AM

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for most things, dash attacks are considered attacks (like boons)

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hammers specifically differentiate between attack and dash attack, so a hammer that affects the attack will not affect the dash attack (usually)

gray haven Jul 13, 2020, 9:21 AM

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For Malphon (Twin Fists) specifically: Dash-Strike boons (i.e., Hunter Dash and the Lunge from Master Chaos) will affect both the Dash-Upper and Dash-Attack of Malphon. But the Daedalus upgrades won't affect the Dash-Upper except for Explosive Upper, which specifically mentions Dash-Upper in its description.

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I hope that by V1.0 there will be a bit more clarity in the descriptions of those things. dusa

median totem Jul 13, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Oh yeah, it differs from weapon to weapon

pastel cipher Jul 13, 2020, 10:17 AM

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there's already one pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat

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but ty ^_^ also it's more suited for that channel @eternal venture

eternal venture Jul 13, 2020, 10:18 AM

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ill move it there, and i know, this is more something to use to easily look to and cross off what you already have

mortal void Jul 13, 2020, 12:09 PM

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Hmm okay okay thanks @pulsar frigate

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So for example the boon deadly strike: 'your attack is stronger (attack damage: 38%), with a 15% chance to deal critical damage'

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When I do a dash strike, it DOES make that attack stronger + it can also have a 15% change to do critic damage?

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That boon is not just bound to a 'normal' attack, but also a dash strike/attack. Correct?

slow rivet Jul 13, 2020, 12:30 PM

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is that the real crab bar?????

sly vigil Jul 13, 2020, 1:24 PM

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That boon is not just bound to a 'normal' attack, but also a dash strike/attack. Correct?
Correct. Attack is the rectangle, Dash Strike is the square.

latent jungle Jul 13, 2020, 6:59 PM

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Make an increase in the chance of catching legendary fish for successful fishing. Example x = x + 2 * n, where x is the initial chance of catch, n is the number of fishing without catching the legendary fish. Count for each zone separately. If the legendary fish is caught, the zero is a bonus. Sorry google translate)

ornate remnant Jul 13, 2020, 7:03 PM

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@latent jungle you could post that in #hades-feedback . There is a pinned message explaining how to get permission to post there

latent jungle Jul 13, 2020, 7:06 PM

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@ornate remnant not enough rights

ornate remnant Jul 13, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Do you know how to look at the pinned messages?

latent jungle Jul 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@ornate remnant apparently not)

ornate remnant Jul 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Are you on a phone or computer?

latent jungle Jul 13, 2020, 7:09 PM

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pc

ornate remnant Jul 13, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Look in the top right, there should be an icon like a push-pin

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(or thumbtack, is another word for it)

latent jungle Jul 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@ornate remnant thanks! 🙂

ornate remnant Jul 13, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Sure thing! shadesmile

ocean yarrow Jul 13, 2020, 9:29 PM

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is there any known hit reg problems while using attack on certain weapons,that people know about?

prisma moat Jul 13, 2020, 9:34 PM

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things get a bit wonky around styx corners for me w melee stuff but idk

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hear some people have issues with World Splitter

uneven slate Jul 13, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I learned today that the swings with Arthur have a dead zone (where the hilt is, so to speak), but the hitzone and the animation don't line up perfectly.

ocean yarrow Jul 13, 2020, 11:13 PM

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world splitter once buged out for me to the extent that i couldnt hit anything in melee 90% of the time

sly vigil Jul 13, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Yup it does that

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 12:42 AM

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yeah that happened to me too: https://youtu.be/tUk6JHZFyGE

YouTube

Bryan Nguyen

world splitter please

▶ Play video

lethal rain Jul 14, 2020, 2:17 AM

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Oh dear, that's definitely not just me then

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to be fair, it says World splitter, not Foe splitter Kappachino

sterile solar Jul 14, 2020, 2:48 AM

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that bomber probably has high dodge chance dusa

prisma moat Jul 14, 2020, 5:38 AM

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D

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DIO?

sleek whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:03 AM

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The world

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:04 AM

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@sly vigil

Correct. Attack is the rectangle, Dash Strike is the square.
I know they are two seperate things, but did you understand what I ment with my explanation? Or you mean with your 'correct' as in: Yes when you dash strike you have a chance for that critical damage and bonus damage (that is bound to your attack).

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:12 AM

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your dash strike gains any bonuses your attack would get (unless it's a hammer upgrade)

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:13 AM

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He's saying all Dash-Strikes (squares) are Attacks (rectangles).

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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With say Hunter Dash (+100% Dash Strike damage assuming Epic Rarity) and Deadly Strike (15% crit, 35(?)% damage):
Your Dash Strike gets 15% crit and 100% + 35% damage
Your normal attack only gets 15% crit and 35% damage

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:14 AM

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Ahh okayokayokayokayokay!

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Then now I understand haha, thanks guys

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:15 AM

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He's wrong, though, because some Dash-Strikes are Specials! (only Malphon's Dash-Upper)

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I'm not a guy. dusa

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Yea so unless your dash strike becomes something unique it doenst work like that..

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Ok I am not wrong, just not complete

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Wrong.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Oh wait, I know what you mean now

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You can also dash-special

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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only on fists

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:17 AM

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If Dash-Strikes to Atracks are as squares are to rectangles, then the Dash-Upper would be an Attack!

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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thank you, you murdered the analogy

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Wow..my mind is...

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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So you're wrong, Mr. Math Major using geometry analogies wrong. dusa

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:18 AM

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just use dash attacks to attacks, not dash strikes to attacks

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dash uppers are the cousin at family gatherings nobody particularly likes

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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With say Hunter Dash (+100% Dash Strike damage assuming Epic Rarity) and Deadly Strike (15% crit, 35(?)% damage):
Your Dash Strike gets 15% crit and 100% + 35% damage
Your normal attack only gets 15% crit and 35% damage
OK, just so we are clear, this is still correct, no matter what weapon you use. With fists dash upper you also get benefit from Hunter Dash.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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just use dash attacks to attacks, not dash strikes to attacks
@pulsar frigate A dash strike is a dash attack? Lol im getting confused

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But yes this is clear to me @sly vigil

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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"dash strike" includes the dash attack and the unique dash upper the fists have

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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im guessing BOth dash special and dash attack counts as dash strike?

sleek whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:20 AM

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hey fyi i like dash-upper a lot. sure i might forget about him time to time but i still like himr

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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zzz just don't use fists, problem solved xD

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Hahah

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But okay clear!

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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basically people are trying to tell you the edge case of Dash Upper on Fists

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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dash upper is only useful on demeter send tweet

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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wait, does that mean dash-nova benefits from hunter's dash?

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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Dash Nova as in with sword?

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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no, dash novas aren't a specified thing in the game

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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yes

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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just a neat tech

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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It's not a moveset, it doesn't get the bonus

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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hrm, pity

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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(also, dash novas are technically special -> dash, not dash -> special)

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:22 AM

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true, true

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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dash strikes will always have you pressing dash first

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any other dash related stuff are just neat techniques

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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Actually one more thing I find pretty confusing.. When equipping a signet in the keepsake. It says 'the next boon you find will be from xxx'. But it does not always spawns that boon?

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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another neat dash tech is that you can use dash to extent your spear spin

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:23 AM

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yeee

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i love using that

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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the next time you would get a boon, it will be from that god

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hermes is an exception

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Actually one more thing I find pretty confusing.. When equipping a signet in the keepsake. It says 'the next boon you find will be from xxx'. But it does not always spawns that boon?
@mortal void there are certain conditions that overwrites that

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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the game will try its best to get you that god, basically

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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(hermes, mechanically, doesn't act like the big olympians do)

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Yea so when I start a run it does 100% guarantee it

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And then after that when the game decides it will spawn a god boon, then it will be from that specific god?

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i think so, since there are no other circumstances to subvert the trinket

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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Hermes can spawn before your god, he doesn't care
||there is one scripted run per save that the game forces Poseidon Huge Catch legendary on you||

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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i just got 2 recently

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had a good trip

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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don't forget the ||poseidon aid tutorial event||

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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why is it always ||poseidon||

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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||Huge Catch||

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:25 AM

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cool uncle things 😎

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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best uncle things

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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basically, scripted events are exempt

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Lord Hermes can spawn instead in the later biomes; in the first biome, a Daedalus hammer can spawn instead.

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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not that the hammer is a boon

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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But okay, so it will try its best to give you that god. Unless the game decides it will spawn, lets say, a pom, hammer etc

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:26 AM

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correct

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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But 'will try' can mean it can still spawn a other god

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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yup

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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No, the next god room will be the God you chose

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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well, typically it happens when

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you haave 2 doors

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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if you were able to get a god, at least one of the gods available will be the keepsake's

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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the other door may be a different god, obvi

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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in the case of multiple doors

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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yes

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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again, Hermes isn't a "God" for this purpose

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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yeah

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Hermes is special

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:27 AM

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Ow

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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the game will try its best to get you like, one hermes boon every 2 biomes

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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Hermes is a pain in the ass, noted

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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that is why hermes overwrites the trinket

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same with hammer

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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3 dashes go brrrrr

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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think of hermes as a hammer with dialogue

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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lol

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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wait till hermes heard about this

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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you can tell Hermes to shut up, too

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so he is a hammer

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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can we tell the hammer to talk to us

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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But that signet only triggers once per region or?

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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once per game

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:28 AM

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it triggers only once

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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sorry

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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you only ever get the forced boon once, when you take the boon

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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but if you got the right god, you will sitll get the rarity benefit

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Acorn resets every biome though

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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yea okay exactly

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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(i do think they tend to introduce the god into the pool though)

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yes

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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basically just do things

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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the rarity increase, being the passive effect, will stay the entire time the keepsake is equiped

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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you will see

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xD

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:29 AM

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haha Yea im in for 20 hours now, but couldnt figure this out..

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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well really acorn doesn't reset, that's just the passive effect :v

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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there are many idiosyncrasies that just come with "let me try this and learn the hard way" experience.

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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lets just say the "per floor" thing is implied

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for acorn

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:30 AM

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I have close to 400 hours and am still learning new things all the time.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/coffee-spit-vomit-gross-laugh-gif-12129945

Tenor

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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basically: keep playing

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dusa

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Gross.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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So the acorn is pretty neat to use I assume now

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:31 AM

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it's a good game which warrants good playtime

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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acorn is a solid choice

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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So the acorn is pretty neat to use I assume now
OH YES YOU HAVE NO IDEA

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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(didnt use it yet)

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I run 3 stubborns with the lucky tooth at the end all the time..

sly vigil Jul 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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here is a quick tip for ya

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Acorn >> Tooth for Styx

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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here is a quick tip for ya

patroclus, after giving him nectar

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:32 AM

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lol

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:33 AM

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the game will try its best to get you like, one hermes boon every 2 biomes
Actually, the way it works is you're guaranteed 2 boons from Lord Hermes before biome #4 unless you skip any of his boons.

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:33 AM

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yeah

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same dif really

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Not really, no.

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:34 AM

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ive put it in my notes for @sly vigil "Actually Patroclus"

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 6:34 AM

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You can't get more than 2 before biome #4.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Well I still have a long way to go I see now haha

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with experience

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Btw when I catch 3 fishes it always give me 2 rewards?!

leaden whale Jul 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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if the reward is the same resource they get stacked together and given to you at once

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 6:35 AM

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That my friend..does make a lot of sense

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 8:04 AM

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Do you guys (and girl) always start a run with a keepsake item that spawns a god or?

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So in that way you can easily get your favorite build

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 8:07 AM

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i always start with coin purse, since i like taking what the game gives me

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usually purse/god/acorn/acorn

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Okay okay 🙂 I always have the feeling the purse is not worth it..but will upgrade it and give it a try!

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Sorry if I ask too much, just curious about the mechanics..
When having the twin fist aspect of zagreus equipped, it gives you an X amount of attack speed.
Does this apply for every attack so > dash, special etc. Or should I read it as 'attack' speed > so just the normal attack (x button on xbox)

uneven slate Jul 14, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Attack speed refers to the normal attack.

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Special speed is a separate modifier.

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I am not certain if there is an interaction with dash-strikes.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 8:24 AM

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Hmm okay, thanks for the intel!

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Sometimes the terminology can be a bit confusing imo..

north pawn Jul 14, 2020, 9:14 AM

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if you pick a god keepsake after elysium, will it affect what shows up in the tunnels?

prisma moat Jul 14, 2020, 9:45 AM

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It should, i think

narrow flame Jul 14, 2020, 9:50 AM

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So, i gave charon like 6 nectars and now he won't take them anymore

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Should i give him ambrosia?

rancid mason Jul 14, 2020, 10:39 AM

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It depends on the character. Some require you to talk to them more and some require you to do some story stuff

sterile solar Jul 14, 2020, 10:51 AM

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by some story stuff, you mean just talk to other people?

rancid mason Jul 14, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Talk to people, do some runs, fulfill some uh favors.

sleek whale Jul 14, 2020, 11:37 AM

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@mortal void a simple way to understand is that when the A in Attack is capital, they mean your main attack.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Ah thats a nice one, cheers @sleek whale

silent gorge Jul 14, 2020, 12:32 PM

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Welp, I am only 6 runs in, but I can safely say I am bad at videogames...!

median totem Jul 14, 2020, 12:43 PM

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If you're new to Rogueli(k/t)es, don't worry, they are meant to be ruthless for newbies.

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It'll take some time before you will be able to play decently, just have some patience.

silent gorge Jul 14, 2020, 12:46 PM

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I have played many many roguelites - and I am ok at being bad, I am just confirming to myself I think 😛

median totem Jul 14, 2020, 1:41 PM

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Ah okay.

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 1:42 PM

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damn, i finally make it to the end with the sword with like the best build and i get totally jebaited by the last boss

silent gorge Jul 14, 2020, 1:42 PM

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I refer you to the earlier anser @granite heath ! Roguelites can definitely be frustrating! though not nearly as much as Rogue was!

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 1:43 PM

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i think this game actually has a pretty good difficulty curve. it starts out very frustrating but it gets quite a bit better the more you unlock and also a little RNG

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you gotta get those dash reflects at least, it's so important for melee imo

silent gorge Jul 14, 2020, 1:44 PM

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I'm still early in my playthrough (combination of not wanting to give Epic my money and trying to be good about my backlog) but it seems super well designed so far

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 1:45 PM

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i agree and honestly, i've never been a fan of roguelites

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but for some reason, this one is addicting

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i think it's the combat

silent gorge Jul 14, 2020, 1:51 PM

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an action roguelite lives or dies by the combat, certainly

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 1:55 PM

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So when I equip the boon binding flash(your abilities that can deflect also make foes exposed), and I have deflect on my dash. How exactly does that convert to making them exposed? I have to deflect an attack first in order to activate the expose?

faint umbra Jul 14, 2020, 1:56 PM

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no, just dash on an enemy

rancid mason Jul 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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I personally think that Hades does it by having an engaging story between your runs. There's a reason to keep doing runs outside of just the fun of the run itself

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You get Nectar to give to your favorite characters and get new dialogue

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I don't think Athena dash is required for melee builds, but athena dash definitely makes you super safe. If you already have damage locked-down, going for Athena dashes is probs good

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 2:59 PM

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how do you get titans blood? i can't seem to get anymore

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 2:59 PM

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defeating bosses, can vary per run

lethal rain Jul 14, 2020, 3:00 PM

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You need to either change a weapon of choice or heat level

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 3:00 PM

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and that!

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 3:01 PM

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Doesn't vary. Boss ||1|| and boss ||4|| will drop Titan Blood.

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You can also trade in Ambrosia for Titan Blood at the Wretched Broker.

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 3:03 PM

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yea i did that but now i can't find ambrosia lol

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Boss ||3|| drops Ambrosia. You can also trade in 10 Nectar for 1 Diamond, and then trade in 2 Diamonds for 1 Titan Blood.

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 3:04 PM

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ok, appreciate the info

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 3:06 PM

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If you've already received the bounty from a boss with a weapon but haven't cleared with the same weapon yet, you'll get Darkness instead from that boss.

rocky sigil Jul 14, 2020, 4:14 PM

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You have to beat the game first then it’ll become apparent

narrow flame Jul 14, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Does every weapon have a ||legendary aspect||?

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And if yes, how can i get them? I only got ||Guan Yu ||

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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There isn't one for the Twin Fists yet.

cosmic swift Jul 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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#h1-story-discussion pins if you want to see the existing ones

narrow flame Jul 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Are the fists any good? I can't seem to do anything with then yet

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@cosmic swift thanks

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 4:34 PM

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Yeah, Malphon is great!

narrow flame Jul 14, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Realy? I think the fact they only gor 2 moves is underwhelming

granite heath Jul 14, 2020, 4:37 PM

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i thought the spear was terrible until you get some upgrades on it and it's crazy

gray haven Jul 14, 2020, 4:37 PM

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They have 4 moves.

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The 5-hit combo, the Dash-Strike, the Uppercut, and the Dash-Upper.

neon slate Jul 14, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Question, do Death Defied, and the 50hp restored upon fatal damage gift stack

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Nvm, just found out its literally just Death Defied, but an item

lyric forge Jul 14, 2020, 5:35 PM

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You mean Skelly's keepsake?

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Yeah, it's an equippable extra death defiance.

rotund linden Jul 14, 2020, 5:37 PM

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I've checked the wiki a bit but didn't find a good answer. I have hearts maxed out on Achilles, Sysiphus and Patroclus. nothing about buying their contracts yet.

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have the administrative room unlocked too.

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Already had the interaction where I relay the message to Achilles of going for it.

vivid crane Jul 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Pretty sure you’re just sorting through ||Nyx||’s dialogue then, and she has a lot of it. I know that’s the case for Sysiphus, not sure about Achilles. Regulars here know I never stop complaining about how that one character bottlenecks dialogue for several different quests

rotund linden Jul 14, 2020, 5:41 PM

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🤔

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Yeah, I have Nyx maxed out on hearts too but no quest on her either.

copper moon Jul 14, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Prob asked before, but what happens if you go for higher heat than necessary for next bounties? Do you miss ouit on bounties?

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 6:59 PM

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no, you get the bounties for the lowest uncompleted heat level

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you can go as high as you want, but bounties will only ever be earned one completed level at a time

lyric forge Jul 14, 2020, 7:24 PM

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The only exception is heat 0, that one you have to do explicitly.

copper moon Jul 14, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Thanks guys. I only have 7 wins, but last 4 was in a row and the very last I bought a titanblood in addition. So starting to feel more straight forward. The EM thingy seems to make the game cooler, so planning on maxing it right away for fun.

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 7:41 PM

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i also really recommend middle management!

frosty gazelle Jul 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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Yeah I pretty much use em and mm as default too.

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 8:38 PM

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When using, for example, abyssal blood (each rank reduces foe speed and damage by 5% while they have cast crystal in them), does this effect stack when a foe has 3 cast crystals in them?

candid nimbus Jul 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Only the one works I believe

mortal void Jul 14, 2020, 8:39 PM

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This sometimes applies for other boons too (cant recall one atm)

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Hmm

candid nimbus Jul 14, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Doom perhaps

rocky sigil Jul 14, 2020, 9:28 PM

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I’m pretty sure absyssal blood stacks

broken anvil Jul 14, 2020, 10:47 PM

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abilities most do to a point

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that's kind of what i try to do but UGH there's only so much you can pull that stunt before they get your butt. -_-;

narrow flame Jul 14, 2020, 10:54 PM

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i've got 4 titan's blood

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what should i do with it

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i already have || guan yu ||

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what's more fun?

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||arthur?|| ||rama?|| ||lucifer?||

rancid mason Jul 14, 2020, 11:00 PM

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@narrow flame It really depends on what you like and you should probably go into #h1-story-discussion if you want the answer.

dawn sphinx Jul 14, 2020, 11:52 PM

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are keys only used for the initial weapon unlocks? i can find two side usages, trading them and resetting the mirror, is that all it?

pulsar frigate Jul 14, 2020, 11:53 PM

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they're also used for unlocking mirror upgrades, but that's basically it

dawn sphinx Jul 14, 2020, 11:54 PM

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so after the mirror and weapon unlocks its safe to trade them all away then right?

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thanks!

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Pretty much, except keep a few in case limited offer has a good deal

dawn sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 12:19 AM

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good point, got it

wanton cliff Jul 15, 2020, 2:06 AM

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hello i have a question, how does the chiron bow special interact with zeus lighting special? does each arrow from the special proc the lighting damage or will it only proc one instance of it?

rancid mason Jul 15, 2020, 2:09 AM

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@wanton cliff All versions of Zeus special on all weapons only work once.

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So even if you shoot like 20 arrows, it'll only proc once

wanton cliff Jul 15, 2020, 2:10 AM

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@rancid mason darn it would be kinda broken if it did, ty.

rancid mason Jul 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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The case is different for Attacks though

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Attacks proc for EACH instance of damage your attack causes.

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So if you're using Rail and Zeus attack, then you get it for every attack you do

wanton cliff Jul 15, 2020, 2:11 AM

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alright thanks, ill keep that in mind

rancid mason Jul 15, 2020, 2:14 AM

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NP

pulsar frigate Jul 15, 2020, 2:20 AM

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what's happening is that zeus flourish has an internal cooldown, chiron special attacks too fast and so only gets off 1 bolt per special

mortal void Jul 15, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Attacks proc for EACH instance of damage your attack causes.
@rancid mason This doesnt work for doom effects right? They dont stack. But the doom effect has to be triggered, in order to apply it again?

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triggered/completed..whats the correct term

gray haven Jul 15, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Proc.

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And right. Doom doesn't stack.

mortal void Jul 15, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Ah sry, english is not my main 🙂 But okay!

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But there is one boon that gives you doom stack bonus I recall..But that doesnt stack the effect either

ocean yarrow Jul 15, 2020, 10:29 AM

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what happens if i take poseidon attack get poseidon,zevs duo and zevs legendary does the attack proc duo and than the duo proc zevs legendary?

gray haven Jul 15, 2020, 10:33 AM

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Well, trigger isn't exactly wrong either.

rancid mason Jul 15, 2020, 11:45 AM

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I was talking about Zeus attack!

silent gorge Jul 15, 2020, 12:27 PM

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8 runs and got my first ||Meg|| defeat 🙂

gray haven Jul 15, 2020, 12:27 PM

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Congratulations!

pastel cipher Jul 15, 2020, 12:30 PM

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congrats klinkHyper

chrome jackal Jul 15, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Woop! nice one

dawn sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 1:14 PM

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how does boiling blood (+50% damage to enemies with cast crystals in them) work with casts that do not stay inside enemies, like festive fog of dionysus?

rancid mason Jul 15, 2020, 1:15 PM

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It does nothing

runic juniper Jul 15, 2020, 1:16 PM

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It's a thing to keep in mind when picking your cast

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If you really want that bonus for high attack damage, you cant really pick festive fog or blade rift

dawn sphinx Jul 15, 2020, 1:16 PM

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oh ok, makes sense, was just hoping it would have some other interaction, thanks to you both ❤️

runic juniper Jul 15, 2020, 1:18 PM

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You're welcome !

granite heath Jul 15, 2020, 1:37 PM

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i hate the spin attack on the spear, it's terrible

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almost never activates properly after a dash and gets interrupted by damage, which you're most likely getting hit because you leave yourself vulnerable while it charges. it's good for popping off on spawning creatures tho

rancid mason Jul 15, 2020, 1:43 PM

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That's usually it's main use

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Rarely is it good for mid-combat

vivid hill Jul 15, 2020, 2:02 PM

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if you get the two hammers for the spin attack its quite fine even on "pact speed"

narrow flame Jul 15, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I used only the spin atack to win a run

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1 hammer gave me sturdy while charging and it became even better

mortal void Jul 15, 2020, 2:31 PM

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What means 1 with a circle under a keepsake item. It's like a redo symbol. For example I used a god keepsake item. After defeating the boss it gives me this symbol. Is it like a reuse?

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(cant post image)

leaden whale Jul 15, 2020, 2:37 PM

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it means you have one use

mortal void Jul 15, 2020, 2:58 PM

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Cool, thought it was good for 1 use per run

solid coral Jul 15, 2020, 3:06 PM

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As a new player, I'm curious about what heat is. I haven't seen a way to access it. Do you need to beat the game first?

leaden whale Jul 15, 2020, 3:06 PM

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yes

solid coral Jul 15, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Well, I've gotten close at least.

sly vigil Jul 15, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Yeah it will all make sense once you beat the game.

rocky sigil Jul 15, 2020, 3:32 PM

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You have to beat the game first, but essentially it’s a system of replay ability for the game

prisma moat Jul 15, 2020, 4:36 PM

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@neon slate hey you wanted to ask about area 4?

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I did, reached there for the first time, got summarily dumpstered

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just kinda want like maybe some tips for next time I reach it

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 4:59 PM

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The temple requires the most environment awareness, not just to dodge saws and poison vents, but to get to the antidote wells quickly, being able to spot poison + antidote is probably skill number one to work on

prisma moat Jul 15, 2020, 5:01 PM

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Alright, so
||- Do not take the Anvil if you need your hammers, even one of them

the pricier pom/boons at charon's are better, same goes for miniboss rewards (you get more gold n stuff)
Pierced Butterfly and Lambent Plume only count the final room in a tunnel, but charon goods and curses do not
You can't get the sack on your first tunnel.
Sometimes, the miniboss rooms are easier than the normal encounters here, as one huge enemy is easier to maneuver around than lots of tiny ones
you can deflect satyr darts and poison them. They deserve this.
dash behind a snakestone is what i try to do!
there is a miniboss you can get thats harder than the others, especially if you're melee. Watch that thing closely and dodge when it attacks
TRAPS HURT DODGE THEM
poison stacks
you can use the traps to your own advantage pretty well||

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Oh and, don't zoom through mini tunnel rooms, watch for wells, purging pools and esp golden urns! They have more gold here!

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Also Bothers hurt a lot so try to get rid of them fast, things get very frantic if you have to not step on traps, dodge darts and lasers AND not get bombed

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That's all i got!

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:12 PM

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||There is one or a few fountains in each chamber, they do not restore hp but they can heal poison, so if you accidentally get poisoned, may want to retreat a bit and cure||
||However, also keep in mind that poison automatically goes away if you finish clearing the chamber, sometimes it's better to push to the end than to risk with a fountain||
A few more things to add :o

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:30 PM

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So RNG and stuff get's complicated as heck?

prisma moat Jul 15, 2020, 5:31 PM

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where you get the sack is rng

twin sonnet Jul 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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Can anyone explain how to do a cast-based build? I'm missing something obvious, I think. You cast, it gets stucks in the guys, and then...you wait, helpeless in the meantime? How's it supposed to work?

vivid hill Jul 15, 2020, 5:34 PM

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most simple autowin cast build

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ares cast + dual boon with artemis

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aka hunting blades ...

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can work on the rail eg. with the "blast yourself for more damage" aspect

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there are lot of ways to get more casts / better casts / faster casts / .... most of them are on arthemis

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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@twin sonnet there are a few aspects on weapons that are more Cast oriented

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Isn't hunting blades ares-artemis duo?

vivid hill Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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yeap

twin sonnet Jul 15, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Thanks Markus. Yeah, I see an aspect on the sword that looks good

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Poseidon blade is indeed a nice pick for that, ye

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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Posidon Blade + Artimis gets you a high damage seeking cast, and also a good shot at Exit Wounds, which pairs wonderfully with the Special dislodge

vivid hill Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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@lethal rain thx fixed it -.-

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:38 PM

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A tiny little thing I want to add is that cast-builds are never all that simple. Sometimes you will indeed have builds wherein all you do is cast, and have enough casts to do so.

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Most of the time though, if you can, you'll want to weave in a few attacks and such too, purely because you can.

rotund linden Jul 15, 2020, 5:39 PM

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||should I be careful with my romances?||

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||are there any penalties for not romancing people properly?||

vivid hill Jul 15, 2020, 5:39 PM

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you can beat the game with anything with a halfway done mirrow below 10 heat .... and im no darksouls player with light reflex 😛

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I actually like going for hunting blades with Achilles Spear ....I've found even if I don't get it the two blades you throw after the special recover still rip a lot up

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:39 PM

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@rotund linden Please spoiler that.

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That's more of a story element.

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That's a nice pairing Frankie

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Thanks!

rotund linden Jul 15, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Ares dash with twin fists is hilariously good.

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you just shred things up

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Thanks TLC ....I used to go for hunting blades on Posidon, but I found myself lacking when. I didn't get it

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Fair

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Do remember there are other duos too thouugh

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though*

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Blizzard Shot, Curse of Drowning etc..

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And yeah Ares' Dash is amazing.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Oh yeah for sure, but my point still stands that I feel Achilles makes the best use of Ares on its own, because you can't always count on duos

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Epic Ares Dash with Fists awakened something in me

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Fair enough Frankie

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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Ares dash is something special

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:43 PM

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My best run, aka the run I got to Area 4 on, was a silly Dionysis Shield thing

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all of the drunk

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:44 PM

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xD

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:44 PM

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My Cast recommendations are Posidon - Artimis .... Achilles - Ares .... Hera - Dio......

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:44 PM

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Are 4th Aspects considered spoilers here?

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:45 PM

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Oh I don't know... I'm not sure how early they unlock

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:45 PM

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|| Beo || is really fun though, I honestly recommend getting it.

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I prefer erring on the safe side personally.

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:46 PM

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which weapon is that?

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:46 PM

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I try to never plan on a duo

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Shield 4th aspect

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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ah

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I didn't even know duo's existed until late in one of my runs, die the next chamber making it moot lol

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:47 PM

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@hard snow Nah, plan around duos, they're honestly not that rare. That is, || especially if you take the alternate mirror upgrade that ups the chance for duos and legendaries by +10% ||

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:48 PM

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I just unlocked the ||HP increase|| mirror upgrade, not really a spoiler, but safety

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so I don't even have that one

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:49 PM

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Oh no you should plan on what to do with them, but when I talk about a "Build" I'm looking at the things I can guarantee

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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But many builds -are- based on duos, which are, with that unlock, a guaranteed upgrade ;P

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:50 PM

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20 more keys

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well potentially

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:52 PM

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+50 health is amazing, yeah.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Yeah that's just not how I think about it..for instance I talk about Hera Bow with Dio ...that's the "Build" firing the AoEs, after that all kinds of stuff make it better, and good "Builds" give you some choices ....maybe "Build" isn't a good word....I like to think of a good "Base"

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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I only have 35 and it's still amazing

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:53 PM

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Core.

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Since you are, in essence, establishing core boons. But so long as you're still -aiming- for Duos, you're doing fine.

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85 is still nifty yeah

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Oh yeah, I mean depending on how good I'm doing I get to force three gods into the system...the "Core", the preferred "Duo" if there is one, and a "Safety" if I haven't gotten it yet

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Fair enough!

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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Maybe it's just cause I'm still bad but Dio fountain guaranteeing full hp and +3% dmg was great for me

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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No it's great...if you get fountains

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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It is rare that I'd skip that dio boon tbh

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Unless it's really late into game

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:56 PM

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That's what I was gonna say

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:57 PM

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You are guaranteed up to 4 fountains, and can get up to 7 sometimes
So yeah, i getcha

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:57 PM

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I got it in Tatarus so money

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:57 PM

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Oh yeah I'd take it in Tartarus

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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My whole tartarus was pretty much Dio

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Honestly, that boon is never a bad idea most of the time, unless you are sacrificing a duo, legendary, or another really good boon. It provides a ton of confidence, -especially- when you suffer in the game, and quite frankly, in Area 4 with the guaranteed fountain, it's a full heal before boss, if you decide to immediately go for it.

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Not to mention a boost to damage also.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Like breaching cross for the fists....in Tartarus...I'll take it every time, late Elysium....ehhhh

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 5:58 PM

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Oh yeah, I mean depending on how good I'm doing I get to force three gods into the system...the "Core", the preferred "Duo" if there is one, and a "Safety" if I haven't gotten it yet
"forcing" gods into a system is a bit simpler than it seems like. You are often given the choice, and once you get a boon from god you need, they will fix a spot for the rest of the game so you'd find them more commonly

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:59 PM

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^

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Breaching Cross is still a good pick even then.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 5:59 PM

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That's correct, that's why you really only need the two

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Makes the miniboss doors in Area 4 a breeze.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 6:00 PM

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It just goes down from autopick to really good choice

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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Very true.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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If my damage is already high (especially since I'm usually playing Talos) I'll sometimes take something else

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 6:01 PM

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It depends on the other choices too really.

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And push comes to shove, there's always the || anvil || innit

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 6:02 PM

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If I have high artimis dash and can put the combo dash strikes in imma take that

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Especially if my attack speed is up

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Let me fill you in on a little build I -adore- taking with fists, which you probably already know of but here goes; Athena attack, with Exposed, paired with Aphrodite dash/cast (any reliable application of weak, really). Exposed is a bonus to backstab damage, weak is a bonus to backstab damage, Athena's attack deflects and in turn procs the Exposed debuff, and you deal a -ton- of damage just from that. If you get the duo that makes your cast benefit from your backstab damage bonus? Then it all comes full circle.

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It's utterly beautiful.

hard snow Jul 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Yeah I alternate between Athena and Demeter for my starter ....always for attack

latent berry Jul 15, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Yeah

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God Demeter is another wonderful build too actually.

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Especially if you get the duo that makes it track you, in tandem with Demeter being on attack -and- having Arctic Blast?

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I need to try so many things xD

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But this is teetering on #h1-builds-and-combat content so, yeah.

leaden whale Jul 15, 2020, 7:19 PM

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the full heal from strong drink can't be understated either

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Silly newbie question, do people "main" weapons?

ornate remnant Jul 15, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Yup

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Not everyone, but some people do

lethal rain Jul 15, 2020, 8:17 PM

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Currently maining stygius blade baddyhueh

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Not the worst idea, but to get full experience from game some variety should be present

candid nimbus Jul 15, 2020, 8:18 PM

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I can't main weapons with all the grinding I need to do

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shadegrief

neon slate Jul 15, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Right now I'm just feeling it out trying to get keepsakes and maybe win a damn run anyway

candid nimbus Jul 15, 2020, 8:20 PM

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I couldn't beat the game until I figured out most if not all of the more annoying enemy attack patterns

narrow flame Jul 15, 2020, 8:55 PM

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took me 11h to beat the game once

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after that i think i can beat it with a spear ez

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and any other weapon with a little bit of work

granite heath Jul 15, 2020, 10:40 PM

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bow and arrow is not a good weapon

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i can barely get to the first boss it's so poopy. that special is pure yikes

ornate remnant Jul 15, 2020, 10:41 PM

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it definitely can take a bit of getting used to

leaden whale Jul 15, 2020, 10:41 PM

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bow special is mostly there to spray boon effects around

prisma moat Jul 15, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Or shotgun enemies up close

leaden whale Jul 15, 2020, 10:44 PM

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with backstab it's decent damage

granite heath Jul 15, 2020, 10:48 PM

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beat the first boss with it and died in the next area because of this strange mechanic where i can't single fire without charging

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i just eat shots from projectiles

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never using it again

candid nimbus Jul 15, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Bow is something, took me awhile to get used to

prisma moat Jul 15, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Its my third fave weapon

stiff gazelle Jul 15, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Having mained breaker's bow in bastion, using the bow in hades felt like I was playing bastion again but faster

pulsar frigate Jul 15, 2020, 11:17 PM

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bow's my favorite weapon

tepid tide Jul 16, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Bow takes some getting used to, but it is far from bad. Maybe not just your style

rough tundra Jul 16, 2020, 12:45 AM

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first timer here goin in, wish me luck

ornate remnant Jul 16, 2020, 12:45 AM

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good luck ^.^

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 12:48 AM

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Good luck, may RNGesus be kind!

rough tundra Jul 16, 2020, 1:09 AM

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well this is fun, I made it to 12 chambers, I kinda like how one of the upgrades was an option for my special/Q but I didn't even realize that was an attack until being presented the option

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skelly is cool

rough tundra Jul 16, 2020, 1:33 AM

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holy crap that first boss fight was sick, I'll stop spamming this channel but suffice to say I'm having fun

rancid mason Jul 16, 2020, 2:19 AM

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@rough tundra YESSSSS. Wait until you get to the other bosses and the heat system

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Super siiiick

rough tundra Jul 16, 2020, 2:19 AM

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I'm psyched, got wrecked in elysium at the butterfly spammy encounter with a ton of archers but I had fun

pulsar frigate Jul 16, 2020, 2:19 AM

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nice!

rough tundra Jul 16, 2020, 2:21 AM

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thanks for the warm welcome everyone, games definitely help get away from some of the crazy we've got going on right now so I just wanted you to know I appreciate you 🙂

acoustic peak Jul 16, 2020, 7:51 AM

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Impressed that you made it from your first time to Elysium in just an hour and a half

runic juniper Jul 16, 2020, 8:19 AM

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Can I ask that you keep telling about your experiences? It's fun to read!

harsh flume Jul 16, 2020, 8:50 AM

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hello, i dont see anything about opting for beta in faqs, so im just gonna ask here. It says HadesTechnicalBeta code is invalid. Is there a new code or is testing out for beta over for now?

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I really wanna try the rail gun lmao

runic juniper Jul 16, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Uhm, it's in the base game.

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You don't need any code for it

chrome jackal Jul 16, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Just some keys 🙂

harsh flume Jul 16, 2020, 10:03 AM

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ohh, damn so i think i just need to unlock it then? i thought it was still on beta (i just got this game and have played for like 26 hrs)

chrome jackal Jul 16, 2020, 10:53 AM

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Yup, it's unlockable in the room where you choose your weapons. I can't remember exactly but you might need to unlock other ones first

gray haven Jul 16, 2020, 11:15 AM

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Hidden aspects are spoilers, I think, but yes. squirtnya

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 11:19 AM

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@harsh flume Yes, please spoiler that.

hard snow Jul 16, 2020, 11:21 AM

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Dropping as a tip for new players....maybe some other people can back me up with the rest......but some Aspects really ramp up with levels and should maybe be avoided as your unlocks rrighr away because they are going to seem weaker than they really are ..... Such as Zues shield

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 11:25 AM

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Nah.

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I think people should unlock what they want and find out for themselves.

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There are always gonna be recommendations, certainly, but there is no use in off-putting them from certain aspects simply because they're not "viable."

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And I assure you, the cost of "opting in" to Zeus shield is probably more of an effective delay on buying it than anything you say :P

hard snow Jul 16, 2020, 11:36 AM

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No, I'm not saying don't get the Zeus shield if you want to try it, I'm saying that the difference between level 1 and level 5 is HUGE moreso than many of the other aspects, at least imo, this is coming out of conversations with friends that I know that recently bought it and felt like they "wasted" early resources unlocking a "weak" weapon......Zues shield is awesome, BUT its scaling seems bananas....I haven't felt that way with any other level 1

runic juniper Jul 16, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Chiron bow

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Chaos shield

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Hestia rail

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Those all strike me as very, very significant increases in weapon power, whereas it's more a more linear progression in others

hard snow Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Yeah...that's what I'm talking about....I honestly didn't know that on Chiron and Chaos because when I unlocked them I had the resources to just max them out

gray haven Jul 16, 2020, 11:40 AM

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I don't play most aspects until Lv.4 or 5.

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They seem balanced primarily around Lv.5.

hard snow Jul 16, 2020, 11:42 AM

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That's what I'm assuming, and I've been in it from the start Soni haven't had the same kinds of limited resources that new players have, I didn't really even think about it till my friends brought it up

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I can imagine someone using two throw chaos shield being like "I'm giving up Damage Reduction for this?"

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:06 PM

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Dang, got to the end, but had 0 Dead Defiances left, so I was kinda screwed lol

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:14 PM

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shadegrief

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Say, @neon slate, if bosses don't give you too much trouble now and are losing most of your defiances in areas, why not use Stubborn Defiance?

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Stubborn Defiance?

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Ohoho

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Have you not noticed that there are alternate mirror perks?

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Stubborn Defiance is one of them.

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Alternate? I've only focused on unlocking the entire mirror

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Alright so

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:16 PM

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oh

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I see the buttons now

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:17 PM

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You'll notice, in your mirror, that there is a button that looks like an inverted switch thingydingy?

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ayup

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Every talent has an alternate version.

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Which one swaps to Stubborn Defiance?

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and does it cost anything?

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Death Defiance. Death Defiances total at 1530 darkness, while Stubborn is just a one-cost 600 darkness investment.

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While you're at it, I also recommend swapping Chthonic Vitality to Dark Regeneration ^_^

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The rest we can get into in time ^^

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:20 PM

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I need to save up darkness now but interesting

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:20 PM

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Y'know

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If you have a spare key, you can refund your darkness and swap to those two talents, spend the 690 darkness, and still have some spare xD

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But yeah

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:21 PM

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...One time per Chamber

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woah

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:21 PM

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It's nice for quick healing Iguess

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Huh?

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Oh Chthonic Vitality

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It's really not that good though.

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You get lots of darkness in your runs, which, with healing 60% of the darkness you get, scales a -lot-.

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:22 PM

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I prefer the purple DDs too

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:23 PM

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Also, currently, 3 death defiances and chthonic vitality cost, in total, 1600 darkness, while swapped you'd spend 690. So...

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910 spare darkness I think.

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Wdym purple DDs?

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Oh I guess DD refers to the purple side lol woops

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:24 PM

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If I don't find myself backstabbing much is Fiery Presence maybe a bit better than Shadowy?

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Also just so you're aware @neon slate, Stubborn Defiance is this thing where, essentially, you have -1- death defiance that regenerates each chamber if you lose it.

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:25 PM

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I find Shadowy procs more

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i.e. bosses

pastel cipher Jul 16, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Cthonic vitality is good if you want sustained regen throughout the course of the run imo at least

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Also, not really. You get off quite a few backstabs almost entirely by accident, so a sustained +50% damage is better than a one-off instance of +50% starting damage.

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:25 PM

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Still up to personal preference however

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:26 PM

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@pastel cipher True. It is miniscule by comparison though, especially taking into account chests, +% bonuses to darkness etc.. Down to taste though, yeah.

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It's just what I prefer 😛

pastel cipher Jul 16, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Tis fair, both options are good in their own ways bittie3

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Yas~

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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I like darkness troves becoming quick heals, my playstyle is risky so I take a bit too much damage lol

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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xD

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Same honestly.

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Boss does 60 damage in a hit? Zag: Takes it in the face, uh sorry Zag

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Pff

silent gorge Jul 16, 2020, 2:28 PM

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I find I (unintentionally) play like I'm trying to speedrun everything - this is probably why I take so much damage!

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:28 PM

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I bet you it most definitely is.

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I'm just a bit of a dummy personally xD

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:29 PM

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My playstyle is very hit and run, until I get Tidal Dash, then I become Leeroy Jenkins

candid nimbus Jul 16, 2020, 2:29 PM

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That's the better way to play I find, hit and run

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:29 PM

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LEEEEROOOOY JEEEENKIIIIIIINS

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:30 PM

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My last run I actually got the Knockback duo boon too so until the last boss I just went Dash Ham

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Sea Storm?

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I believe so

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Ah yes, that's beast.

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Made Biome 4 a joke

latent berry Jul 16, 2020, 2:31 PM

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One time I beat the final boss with purely just Tidal Dash and Sea Storm, along with other effects that procced such as Jolted and Rupture, among other things. Was doing a dash-only run methinks.

neon slate Jul 16, 2020, 2:32 PM

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also 3rd dash too lol