h1-for-new-players

[dusty vault]

?
Fam favs doesn't help getting more boons

[lapis chasm]

Yes, it actually gives a damage bonus for Olympian boons

[dusty vault]

It gives a dmg buff per god you have a boon from

I mean, is still a good talent to unlock but it doesn't help with the "getting the boons you want" issue

[lapis chasm]

You are right, my bad

I preferred it to have more damage as soon as I choose an Olympian boon

[dusty vault]

Hmhm
Is preferred over priv status on most builds

[trail basin]

theres a hammer upgrade minotaur rush iirc which lets you do 500% more damage on your attack if you time it right
it is very powerful

[shut hill]

Minotaur Rush + Curse of Agony was pretty much all I ever wanted until I passed 16 heat and started adding timer lol

Can't imagine ever going back and playing like that again

But it is incredibly safe and strong enough to win

[noble igloo]

what aspect do yall recommend? just unlocked the ability to get aspects
got 5 titan blood to my name rn

[median sphinx]

see there's one aspect I can't recommend more enough and that is a bow aspect

[noble igloo]

one of the bow aspects in partiuclar or any of thm?

nevermind that might be a rhetorical question lmao

[grave prawn]

#h1-for-new-players message

[frigid lynx]

hlo

i need help with the bow

any tips

?

[sweet brook]

basically learn to dash strike consistently with it

aphrodite/artemis attack, ignore the special

look for attack boosting hammers that isn't sniper shot basically

[frigid lynx]

hmm ok i js spam special lmao

[sweet brook]

twin, tripe, point blank, perfect

explosive kinda, flurry isn't too bad either

[sweet brook]

yeah stop that lmfao

it's just a slow animation and to get good value you need to point blank it

and then you get smacked

[frigid lynx]

oki

thx

im also having trouble with sheild

[sweet brook]

more or less the same thing ngl

use your block when you have to, bull rush for movement not for damage bc the damage is kinda pisspoor

however, look for charged shot to make your bull rush not piss poor and turn it into better bow

that's basically the only good hammer, the other passable hammers on shield are pulverizing blow and then dashing wallop

but it's like cshot >>>> pulv blow > dashing wallop

same artemis/aphrodite attack, ignore special

[frigid lynx]

ok but like the attack has such less range i aint able to hit fast moving enemies so shud i relie on dash strike

[sweet brook]

both bow and shield are kinda hammer dependent for good damage, shield more so than bow bc bow base kit damage is decent enough but shield base kit is kinda mid

[sweet brook]

everything in this game should rely on dash strikes

[frigid lynx]

alr

[sweet brook]

you basically never standing strike in this game unless you're on fists (bc you're waiting for dash cooldown to refill) or rail (same thing as fists)

actually

also spear

[frigid lynx]

spear is my fav lmao

(also is support fire good for spear i love it presonally but ive got it once)

[sweet brook]

shield, sword, and bow you never want to standing strike

you only standing strike on shield for cshot spam or pulv blow spam

[sweet brook]

support fire is just mid

the extra damage it does isn't like meaningful lmfao

[frigid lynx]

i js like the way it look

s

[sweet brook]

valid lmao

it's lowkey detrimental if you have fiery presence on your mirror tho

[frigid lynx]

i do

[sweet brook]

which is what most aspects in this game want to use

yeah so support fire kinda just shafts your damage most of the time

[frigid lynx]

hmm alr

tysm

[somber frigate]

Dash-strike far more often

What control scheme are you using?

Keyboard and mouse? Controller?

[fresh bridge]

where’s the copypasta when you need it

[somber frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=699e4722&is=699cf5a2&hm=5cfb3a9211d11cf28a48177939417f5ccee28e2ff91585203e70ad9bad6efc63&

Or the text

[fresh bridge]

zag bow my beloved

[somber frigate]

That would actually be a really funny copypasta handle

Hmm

[fresh moth]

Funny. I literally just cleared a run by relying largely on bow special. Your assessment ain't wrong, for sure, but hey, if the boons and boosts align, it can still work out.

on to my question, tho: how many attempts/runs will I need before I should expect to have seen/unlocked most/all the mechanics and elements etc? Feel like I'm not thrilled that things seem to unlock per attempt.. at least I assume it's per attempt. Maybe some things clear per escape? idk. Point is, trying to play blind here so avoiding looking things up until I have most things unlocked.

[sudden reef]

You've seen most of it once ||you've won a run and unlocked weapon aspects.|| One final mechanic that might take some time to show up are the ||chtonic companions|| since they require specific relationships. Most of the hardcoded gate keeping of core mechanics happens near the start, like you can't meet every god during the first few runs etc.

[somber frigate]

The first run you ever do can’t have hammers/hermes/chaos if it feels like those got introduced randomly, it’s only blocked on the first run really

The game has a little mini-tutorial where it forces you to start with pos call at one point and then when you unlock fishing it forces that in

otherwise I can’t think of much that really “unlocks” on a run-run basis

If you did reach the surface, ||demeter doesn’t show up until you reach the surface for the first time|| so maybe that helped contribute to the feeling

[sweet brook]

i mean you can make a lot of things work in this game, it's still not good lmao

the only "mechanics" that i can think of in runs are like house contractor upgrades stuff

otherwise nothing else changes besides what was already mentioned i suppose?

hammer/hermes/chaos you get introduced really early

[frigid lynx]

keybourd and mouse

[frigid lynx]

iv never seen hermes in tartarus and 90% of the time i get his on the 1st dor in asphodl

[somber frigate]

He can actually only show up 12 chambers into your run at the earliest iirc

So you can see him in the endshop sometimes, if you extend at the end with chaos

[shut hill]

yeah can only get him in the final chamber if you took a chaos gate I think

[somber frigate]

But otherwise you won’t be seeing him in tartarus

Chaos gates also only extend the biome if it’s taken as the last chamber before the endshop

[frigid lynx]

not even in charons shop?(wo chaos i mean)

[somber frigate]

I’m trying to remember if shop generates rewards identically to regular chambers or not

~

i think you can get a hermes early from shops

[frigid lynx]

hmm

[somber frigate]

You’ll still be limited to your maximum of 2 hermes boons / run (aside from the third that can generate in Styx shop)

You can just get your first earlier then

[frigid lynx]

actually i hv a doubt on his boons, every god a a specific ability for there boon like poseidon is knockback ares is doom etcetc but what is hermes'?(if he even has combat based boons)

[somber frigate]

Just

Don’t think of him like a regular olympian god

He’s more like if you mixed the regular olympians with chaos and hammers

He doesn’t have regular core boons (strike/special/cast/dash), they don’t take up any slots and he doesn’t have any pommable boons

He’s also exempt from the god pool mechanic (like chaos) where as you pick up a boon from a god, they’re added to your “god pool” and then once your god pool hits 4, regular boons will only be from those 4 gods

[frigid lynx]

hmm alr thx

[frigid lynx]

ooooooh ok now it makes sence y i dont get some gods in the later part of the game

[somber frigate]

He’s purely support but he does have a few boons that do massively increase your damage output

Like greatest reflex for more dash-strikes or hyper sprint -> rush delivery for massive global additive

[frigid lynx]

hmmm ok

thx

last thing when do i choose poms

i nvr choose them over anything

only if thats the only choise

[somber frigate]

There are a few boons that gain a lot of value from poms and so you do want to take them if you have them

The first 1-2 poms are the strongest since they depreciate in how much they give you until eventually hitting linear scaling

[somber frigate]

If you have any boons that already have a pretty large number on them, a pom is usually going to add a pretty large amount as well, as a ground rule

like aphrodite strike has a base +50% common, her first pom gives +20%

meanwhile artemis strike common is +20% damage, and her first pom gives +8%

The aphro pom actually gives a noticable amount of damage for your weapon

any flat damage from doom/lightning/hangover

Tidal dash poms really well

If you’re doing a cast build you really often want to put a ton of poms onto your cast

[frigid lynx]

alr ok tysm

[somber frigate]

Another thing that starts coming up a bit more when you get more advanced is really keeping the amount of “pommable” boons you have low so you can consistently pom that ones that matter

I wonder if I have a good example laying around

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1475796284605595770/IMG_3466.png?ex=699ec9e5&is=699d7865&hm=f3c8598cbc93e34e2ed1c37fdee188883f300ecbbfa39dd83bf200db12cfa6e4&

I know you probably can’t tell what each of these boons are off by their icons in the inventory but very few of these are actually eligible for poms (only 5 of the ones in the inventory + the 4 core slots), and a number of the extra pommables were taken at the very end in styx (you can pretty much tell based on where they are in the boon inventory)

which allowed me to get really picky with what I was going to pom to maximise my pom value

[noble igloo]

what's the point in upgrading the aspect of hera if I have 3 second cast regen?

[somber frigate]

Mainly for if you want to make use of most non-trippy shot casts

where it makes more sense to just take extra casts and then you can burst down most regular enemies and instantly get your casts back

[fresh moth]

Yeh. Noticed these are slow to roll out. Escape #2 and only just unlocked the boon list for each god. That mighta been nice a little bit earlier..

[somber frigate]

Tbf this is more a matter of it needing you to have purchased the fated list of minor prophecies first

so depending on how fast you’re going this could easily be before your first clear or a little ways after

It being a seperate upgrade from actually receiving the codex makes a bit of sense since that’s like straight up divine information

from the gods that Achilles wouldn’t have access to

[leaden whale]

How hard is this game? Compare to Dark Souls

I just bought it on sale

I mean how hard is the endgame?

[fresh bridge]

in general hades is very story driven, i wouldnt consider it particularly difficult exception to this being ||the very high heat where it can rival the "difficulty of the souls games its closer to an artificial difficulty spike due to heat||

[leaden whale]

Oh

[somber frigate]

3 people have cleared max difficulty on an unmodded game

[leaden whale]

AND I'LL BE THE 4TH!!

damn

[shut hill]

Hades 2 has like 11 for max right

[fresh bridge]

tbf that max difficulty isnt built around being balanced or beaten sadly

[shut hill]

(and one of them is here right now )

[somber frigate]

The difference between 64 and slightly less than 64 is way less of a build consistency nightmare

[fresh bridge]

10

[somber frigate]

or being able to dash 2x

Which are both massive

[versed blade]

LEVEL 16 DASH LMAO

[noble igloo]

what does family favorite exactly do? im a little confused from the description

[dusty vault]

for each god you have a boon from, you get +5% more dmg

so if you have zeus/artemis/poseidon/ares/hermes that's +25%

[steel sand]

Ive just started playing I think im doing okay I dont play rougelikes but I made it to the hades fight on my like 10th try? Anyways Im finding it hard to get past 2 specific fights and its the random spawn of the doomstone(?) miniboss and the hydra. Hydra I always end up leaving with like a sliver of life using death defiance as a backup source of life rn

[dusty vault]

what parts you are struggling more on the hydra?

[steel sand]

Specifically Im finding it hard to come up with a strategy for dodging its attacks effectively, I try to limit how many dodges i do but on that fight I find myself mindlessly dashing. I know taking care of the heads first is the play before i can hit the main head but its dodging all the attacks going on while trying to do damage to every head

Does that make sense 😞

[inland arch]

do you know what each head does?
those that spawn and throw lava are the easiest I find but either way, if you know how they attack it should be managable unless you get unlucky

[dusty vault]

do you know how your dash iframes work btw?

in general for hydra you can try chip away them in order, hit one and if it starts to attack/main head attacks switch to the next one in order

[steel sand]

No actually I didn’t know they did different things

[dusty vault]

orange = lava, pink = projectiles, blue = head slams, green = eggs that spawn enemies

[steel sand]

I think so! Im not sure how long the frame lasts but I’ve noticed that when I dash I can avoid damage, still tho someone said not to rely on dashing, Im using the spear and I normally upgrade it to either do multiple jabs at once or father range (sometimes both)

[dusty vault]

the small heads can't share the color of the main head too

[steel sand]

Ohhh i literally never noticed that, I thought they all shot projectiles and enemy eggs😭(except the maim head)

[dusty vault]

yeah your dash is fully invincible until the very end of it

what's more important is that dash strikes remove these iframes

and dash strikes are often your weapon's best choice for dmg

they keep you mobile, often have better dmg and also allow use of the dash boons

athena's being super good for defense or the massive dmg from poseidon's

[dusty vault]

for dmg, spear ideally wants flurry jab hammer (hold for fast attacks, no spin) or explosive launcher (special becomes a exploding projectile, higher base dmg)

[inland arch]

hold for fast attacks are dangerous because of this :>
I hate it

[dusty vault]

yeah it is a bit more risky but the dps up is really good

is just part of the things you need to practice

[half sky]

oh my god I GOT PAST ASPHODEL JUST TO DIE TO THIS BUM THESUS WHO JUST STOOD IN A CORNER SPAMMING APHRODITE BOMBS AND HELD HIS STUPID SHEILD

[dusty vault]

#h1-for-new-players message - heroes tips

congrats on reaching theseus btw

[half sky]

ty but he is annoying as hell

[steel sand]

I loved my run with the flurry jab, I tend to like fast gameplay so it was perfect without having to mash A all the time for multiple damage. Got me all the way past asphodel without losing a life. I try to pair my style with dash damage as well

[somber frigate]

I’m wondering where you heard someone say to “not rely on dashing” since they are like

the most important tool in your kit in Hades

[hazy coyote]

helooo

[steel sand]

A Reddit post!(sorry was asleep) when I say Im bad at these i meant it, so upon purchasing I looked through a bunch of tip posts on there and some TikTok’s. The one I saw said that newbies tend to rely on dashing too much and its better to be still snd dash minimally

[last furnace]

thats blatantly wrong

theres basically no reason to not dash

unless youre gonna dash into an attack or smth

[novel swift]

oh reddit

[dusty vault]

There's a difference between spamming dash and "spamming" dash

[steel sand]

Ohh ok i see, Ty bc I actually really like dashing it lends well to how I build my weapon and runs but I kept seeing ppl say its a crutch and to only do it on fights where its needed (like Meg)

[dusty vault]

??

That's insane lmao

[last furnace]

its a core mechanic for a reason, thats like saying ignore attack and only use special cause attack is a crutch

[steel sand]

Ah i see that makes sense, I know nothing about these games but the tip felt kinda weird but I saw so many ppl say it i just figured it was something I should keep in mind

[somber frigate]

Ofc it’s reddit and tiktok

Reddit: least valuable source of game information for any given game ngl

For Hades it’s particularly agregious

[noble igloo]

just beat hades for the second time
first time was with the aspect of Achilles, second time with aspect of hera
the aspect of hera run was VERY close, I was down to my final life with somewhat low hp

im ngl hades is like 10x harder than || chronos ||

[last furnace]

please tag ||chronos||

i mean ig its pretty easy to deduct

but still

[noble igloo]

didnt know mb

[last furnace]

yeah, all sequel spoilers tagged here

[shut hill]

Yeah I agree tbh, base ||Chronos|| gets really predictable and easy to dodge after a while, base Hades is tougher to dodge and has worse stage hazards with the skulls and pots, and his summons are harder, like ||Chronos|| Satyr Supplicants are basically fodder, Hades can summon armored Elysium enemies

But the upgraded versions might be on par and I think ||Chronos|| is harder (though I only ever faced EM4 with shield)

[noble igloo]

yeah I was kinda getting wrecked from his giant circle slash cause half the time I wouldn't be able to dash out of the way
the shockwaves from the flames as well also were shredding me

and having to deal with tanky as hell summons while being run down by hades isn't great either

[shut hill]

Yeah early game you kinda have to deal with them, though later on when you have better access to better builds most people just dps down Hades to phase him and ignore the summons

[noble igloo]

yeah unfortunately I don't have any of weapons actually upgraded, I just have some aspects unlocked

and I'm still working on maxing the bottom mirror talents

[sweet brook]

ngl this is one of the most insane things i've ever heard about this game how did people come to this conclusion lmfao

like multiple people too?

i would've assumed you meant divine dash but then you expanded and say "only where it's needed like meg" at which case what lmfao

[main radish]

Hey does anyone know how I can use thr titan blood

[grave prawn]

unlock all weapons and do another run

skelly will tell you what to do afterwards

[main radish]

Got sword spear shield and bow rn

So I gotta unlock thr machine gun and paws also

[main radish]

How many keys do I need for those two

[grave prawn]

uhhh i think 20 and 10 respectively? been a while since i played

[main radish]

Those are for the mirrior

[grave prawn]

no the gun had a high price too

[main radish]

Im looking at the paws rn and they 8

[leaden whale]

Opa teria algum Br aqui ? Eu comprei hades um jogo que sempre quis jogar mas eu tô meio confuso com algumas coisas no jogo alguém pode me ajudar ?

[main radish]

How can I raise my chances of running into nector

[dusty vault]

Rail is 12

[dusty vault]

Nothing really, be sure to take Dionysus for his +1 nectar boon at most

Or trade 10 keys for nectar at the lounge

[main radish]

Already got them

Thr gun i mean

And im hating my luck

I have 5 bottles and I just need to give one nyx but when I die she is always either fighting hades, talking ti someone or not even there

[main radish]

@dusty vault what god/ess boons are good for thr bow

[proud viper]

What weapon is the closest to the axe from hades 2

[grave prawn]

sword hidden aspect

[main radish]

What's the best god/dess boons for the bow

[grave prawn]

aphro attack probably

[main radish]

And f*ck hades

The god not thr game

Was so close to freedom....

[main radish]

@obsidian bramble I had taken him down but he decided to get a second wind and kill me

[main radish]

What's the pros and cons of a loyalty card in hades 1

[somber frigate]

20% discount and 300 obols vs the danger and timeloss from the fight

[main radish]

How do I start the figt

I've never started it

[somber frigate]

Whenever you’re in a midshop there’s a 22% chance for the bag to show up

[main radish]

You mean the one that can hold a gods boon?

For 125 coin?

[somber frigate]

No

It’ll be to the side of Charon

Not where the purchasable stuff is

There should be a little pedestal next to him in most midshops and that’ll be where the bag is if it spawns

[proud viper]

Anyone have advice for theseus and the Minotaur? Its the fight i use most of my death defiances in

[dusty vault]

#h1-for-new-players message - heroes tips

[proud viper]

Thats huge bro thank you

[dusty vault]

🫡

[merry estuary]

Guys I defeated Bone Hydra on my first try

I had Athena's deflecting dash which helped a lot

[main radish]

Good job

[native slate]

we live by athena's dash

[pearl cloak]

I quite enjoy ares's dash

[outer flint]

i think ive used athena dash twice in my life

I mostly do poseidon or i go without a dash

[broken nymph]

New player, but is it me or is the bone hydra insanely difficult?

[cedar delta]

It's a bit of a DPS check to keep the heads down

[broken nymph]

Hmh I do not really know how to increase my DPS further. It is not like I can upgrade a character stat or so 🙁

[cedar delta]

If you're not already familiar with build strategies, that would be a good place to start

[noble igloo]

|| my humble aspect of Arthur shredding literally everything with Demeter attack boon ||

[broken nymph]

Do we have a channel for this or a website?

[cedar delta]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide

[bronze needle]

Hello

[half sky]

10 HGOURS IN GAme and just BEAT ELYSIUM FOR THE FIRST TIME

[half sky]

HADES PHASE 2 SUCKS

[somber frigate]

Nice

[somber frigate]

Honestly I’m a bigger fan of it because he loses the “invisible” move

[half sky]

i got to hades phase 2 30% hp but i got one shot by the waves doing 40 dmg 💀

[somber frigate]

💀

[somber frigate]

this is what dodge iframes are for

[half sky]

ik 😭

[pliant karma]

Yo any tips for beating hades with any weapons but the shield? I struggle the most with Elysium - hades

[somber frigate]

Since you don’t have the block you’re going to be way more reliant on dashing for both damage and safety than shield typically is

on every other weapon

[half sky]

why is the aspect of zues on the shield so insanely broken

[dusty vault]

Good, consistent dmg while allowed to block is good, turns out

[fresh bridge]

zeus shield good 👍

[pliant karma]

Yeah I do that but I still take damage

I have to improve on dashing ig

[pliant karma]

Yeah that’s how I got my first clear

[desert oracle]

i have a question. if you have a duo boon can you sell one of the boons that allowed you to get the duo? like if i got low torlence by having heartbreak strike and Trippy shot can i sell heartbreak strike and keep the duo?

[broken nymph]

Thanks. Took me quite some time to go through this..but there is one question still open:
the keepsake guarantees me that I get one wanted boon guaranteed, but what about the 2nd one?
lets say I want to go with Ares + Athena, I take the blood vial and can get my Ares Boon, but if I manage to find Athena ... is pure rng, isnt it?

[dusty vault]

You can but depending on the duo it might stop working

[dusty vault]

You generally force the 2nd god in asphodel

[dusty vault]

In your example (although swapping to drunken flourish cuz cast doesn't inflict hangover)
If you sell the aphro attack you won't have a source of weak to apply so the effect doesn't proc

If is a cast duo like lightning phalanx you can keep the cast and sell whatever zeus boon used to open the duo and it would still work

[desert oracle]

so it'll break. ok i see. because i did a run where i took Aphro at the start to help me out with her weak, but it stopped being useful once i got to learie so i was curious, thanks so casts don't break and normal ones do got ya

[broken nymph]

Oh...is that why there is a "sell-well" in the post-boss room? so that I could sell a boon that I dont want because I would replace it anyway with a boon from a desired god?

[dusty vault]

Normal duos also depend, cast was just an easy example

Smoldering air (aphro-zeus) won't break as long as you don't sell your call

[desert oracle]

oh so some of them are dependent. i kinda get it.

[dusty vault]

Basically if the effect depends on the actual boons you used to open

Stuff like merciful end won't work if you don't have deflect or doom/artemis heart rend/deadly reversal without weak-deflect/etc

[desert oracle]

yep. now it lands

it's in the despcrien of the boons.what it needs to work. so in the low torlence, if i had passion dash and the attack and sold the attack it'll still work

[dusty vault]

Yup

[desert oracle]

i see

[dusty vault]

As long as you have a source of weak

[desert oracle]

yep

[dusty vault]

Yeah

In general you can also sell boons that are diluting your pom pool

So you can level up your desired boons easier

[desert oracle]

thanks. i only ask because there are better attack buffers in the game

[dusty vault]

Aphro has the highest % modifier for attack and special for what is worth

[desert oracle]

yea, i was trying to do the mission with arthur

for the sword

it was hard

[cedar delta]

I'm late, and Nooby has covered everything, but the standard keepsake rotation is

important Olympian's keepsake #2 ->
Hourglass/Acorn ->
Acorn/Earring/something```

[rotund raptor]

Im entirely new to hades. Have gotten to the first boss.

If anyone got the time. Give me some tips on what weapon to use. Just unlocked the last one (spear)

And what upgrades are worth looking for. Special, dash or attack damage is the ones ive seen. Plus i always choose if its a purple upgrade

[cedar delta]

Any weapon's fine for the base game. Your regular ol' spear will want to be dash-striking allll the time, so go for Attack

[broken nymph]

I got soooo far and was so close... but each swing hit for 30hp 🙁

[long sorrel]

Me personally I really like the sword but it just depends on what play style you like

Also I would recommend divine dash from Athena

[last furnace]

Yeah there's no reason to not use divine or splash dash

For most runs

[long sorrel]

Usually I just go for privileged status so I can do massive damage

[versed blade]

Upgrades depend on the weapon
For spear, go for a % increase on attack and either Athena, Artemis, or Poseidon dash. Nab Zeus or Dio boon if you ever see that. Casts could really be anything, but you probably won't use them a lot so other boons would be preferable (support fire, Zeus lightning enhancement boons, Exposed for Athena dash, Rupture on Poseidon dash, etc.)

[fresh moth]

As a newer player, still getting through the "easy" stages of learning, one tip I'd put forth is this: Stick to upgrading just one style of attack. Long time players will put out the "ideal" builds or "preferred" strategies, but, the way I see it, if the boons line up, you can make pretty much anything work at the lower difficulties. Some of my best (and most fun) runs have come from just pumping every upgrade into bow or spear specials, despite those attacks being pretty "suboptimal."
imo, it just doesn't seem super worth to try to stay balanced at all if, instead, you can ensure you've got at least one form of overpowered attack.
might have to switch up strategies after getting a bit deeper, but, seems a place to start

[rotund raptor]

Is it just me or is this game super difficult in the beginning?

My first game of this sort was tmnt splintered fate. That too had its difficulties but easy to manage. But this game just slaps me around 😅

[long sorrel]

The point of Hades is to get stronger as you get through runs so that's why it is harder in the beginning

[versed blade]

Yeah
Getting a clear on the first run of a fresh file is not for the faint of heart

You can barely take any hits

[rotund raptor]

Yeah im not looking to clear but at least progress but i keep getting rekt. Upgrades arent doing much honestly but maybe the perma upgrades get better with time

[long sorrel]

yes focus on unlocking more of the mirror

the upgrades get very good

[versed blade]

Death defiance and whatever healing one is in the first 3 rows are really good

[long sorrel]

ye then eventually privileged status

[sweet brook]

Priv status isn't that good/consistent compared to family favs

[fresh moth]

ugh.. feel like I'm just throwing away so many runs trying to push for any/all duos to knock out prophecy choices. passing over things I might prefer or help in the immediate just to hopefully get one more new choice checked off..

[cedar delta]

Sounds about right!

[shut hill]

What I did when completing that prophecy was planning whole builds around the duos even the worst ones, just to make it fun

Freezing Vortex Vicious Cycle Beowulf

[pale marsh]

Guys

I got cooked by @pale marsh

Help

[median sphinx]

just don't get bonked silly

[versed blade]

record scratch noise

[brave shuttle]

Please tell me this and 2 isnt gonna be too difficult. I keep seeing this game recommended a lot. I could not play returnal. That game was way too brutal. But its a shame because returnal is the only rogielike/roguelite with good graphics I can think of. I just dont wanna get frustrated with it.

[outer flint]

Hades has a god mode feature, where everytime you die you get more damage resistence, up to 80%, so it should be possible even if you aren't a hardcore gamer to be able to enjoy the story

[somber frigate]

Roguelites and roguelikes are pretty much always about the challenge and getting good enough though

like that’s sorta baked into the genre

[brave shuttle]

Now this is the answer I was looking for. Thank you. So turning on God mode if its too difficult.

[somber frigate]

godmode is there as well to make it easier if you’re struggling

[brave shuttle]

I will try without first.

Just to see.

[outer flint]

good plan

if you have any questions when you're starting out, jsut ask them here and somebody is usally online to answer them pretty quickly

[brave shuttle]

How do I heal?

[outer flint]

you can get an upgrade in the house of hades where you heal a little when entering a chamber. There's also centaur hearts as chamber rewards(black heart with like a read T in the middle) And if you go the shop (the chamber logo is a bag of gold) you can buy healing in the form of food

[brave shuttle]

I have 5 hp. Do I go backwards to the start?

Or just die

[outer flint]

is it your first run?

[brave shuttle]

Yes

[outer flint]

you can't go back to the house once you start a run unless you die

[brave shuttle]

Haven't died yet if thats what you mean

[outer flint]

so just play throug that run, and then when you get the house you'll unlock the way to upgrade

[brave shuttle]

What if I die? Do I keep my upgrades?

[outer flint]

the boons reset every run, the thing you got from athena, but in the house you can unlock permanent things from the mirror

you'll see once you die in your current run and get shown the mirror in-game

[brave shuttle]

What if I never make it to the house?

Okay.

[last furnace]

id reccomend playing the game by yourself, only come here if you really need help

it makes the experience better imo and from the ppl ive talked to

[brave shuttle]

Oh so I technically had to die to progress.

Thank you.

Not sure how I like the bow.

[outer flint]

trying use dash-strikes on bow instead of the attack, it makes the shots charge up '

[brave shuttle]

Yeah I cant get dash strikes to work. I just use y to spread shot

[outer flint]

try hitting dash and the attack button at the same time

[brave shuttle]

Okay that works. But Y does significantly more damage.

[outer flint]

sometimes

if you time the dash-attack for when it flashes white, it does more damage

[brave shuttle]

I get hit more when I dash around

Damn I died faster that run. I might have to use God mode.

Im gonna use the sword it is way better than the bow.

[somber frigate]

dash-striking lets you do damage way faster so you can move out of the way of enemies

and has a lot more options in terms of hammers to let you really build a lot of damage

[brave shuttle]

I like the dashstriking with the sword its more satisfying.

Just wasted 4 keys on the spear. Year the sword is probably gonna be the best weapon in the entire game. It kills the fastest by a long shot.

Do what that weapon is that requires 3 keys but it doesn't look like it will be faster than the sword.

[last furnace]

The shield I assume

Id say the base sword is a bit faster but I never really compared them
Shield is quite a bit safer tho

[brave shuttle]

When does this game get easier? Im always getting to the first boss with 20 or less hp

Like now im about to face the boss again with 11 hp. I thought roguelites get easier

[sweet brook]

they get easier when you get better at the game, either from just playing more and learning, or through upgraded outside of runs

The enemies don't get easier lol

[brave shuttle]

When do I get op is what mean? Thats what im looking for.

You start out weak and get crazy strong as you go.

Thats what im looking for

Right now it feels like a souls game.

I guess they dont make those kind of games anymore.

[sweet brook]

Getting "crazy strong" comes from learning the game and familiarizing yourself with boons

And also out of run upgrades

[cedar delta]

Knowledge is powaaah

[brave shuttle]

I want to feel powerful though.

[sweet brook]

It "feels like a souls game" bc you don't know enemy patterns and are dodging for your life

[brave shuttle]

I suck at learning

[sweet brook]

I mean just play the game more? Idk what else to say

Like it's not gonna get handed to you on a silver platter lol

[brave shuttle]

I guess i can just use wemod then

[sweet brook]

Sure you can do whatever you want lmao

Idk why you expected a roguelike to give you a free win without effort

[brave shuttle]

I thought you actually get op in this game

[sweet brook]

I mean you do

It's just not within like

[median sphinx]

you do just not this early

[sweet brook]

10 runs

[median sphinx]

you start getting op when you obtain aspect of hera trust

[brave shuttle]

No thats not what im saying. I wanted a game where you keep the upgrades as you go.

[sweet brook]

There are other upgrades that you do keep

Btwn every run

[cedar delta]

There is a system of meta progression, yeah

[median sphinx]

have you met the mirror?

[brave shuttle]

Yeah but I dont notice a difference at all.

[sweet brook]

If you don't like that system then you can try a different game I guess but I don't think it'd be a roguelike/lite

[cedar delta]

Oh my goodness player wants 1 billion dollar instantly

[sweet brook]

That's bc you need to unlock more of the mirror lmao

Like

A lot of your issues with the game atm stem from barely getting into the game lmao

[brave shuttle]

I honestly dont know what type a game im referring to. I thought it was roguelite. Maybe its roguelike?

[cedar delta]

Roguelite. Hades is a roguelite

[brave shuttle]

Maybe roguelike is what im looking for then.

[sweet brook]

I mean either way like or lite, doesn't it mean that you don't keep in run items anyways

[cedar delta]

LOL no. Roguelike will kick all our collective butts

[median sphinx]

in roguelikes you keep nothing

at all

[brave shuttle]

I want a game like this but dying isnt as easy.

[cedar delta]

If one can't get a handle on roguelites, there's zero chance one will get anywhere with roguelikes

[sweet brook]

If you spent more time learning the game like another 5-10 runs you'd probably die less easily lmao

Like yeah the game isn't the easiest thing in the world but at the same time it's not unlearnable with practice and time

It really just sounds like you want to get results without putting in the time and effort lol

[cedar delta]

This is like asking for a city builder game to come with the city optimized and prebuilt, TBH

[brave shuttle]

Yall said earlier you dont really get stronger until after your first 10 runs. I done like 20 and still can't only get to the first boss 50% of the time and when I do make it she one shots me because I always have under 20 health.

[sweet brook]

There's also god mode that gives you damage resistance the more you die that caps at 80%

[median sphinx]

try looking for darkness for rooms (the one with like a purple droplet)

or other rooms with a blue laurel

they are items that help your meta progression

[sweet brook]

You should have a death defiance by now yeah

[brave shuttle]

I don't think I seen a blue laurel yet. Whatever those are.

[sweet brook]

And also you should consider taking your time in combats so you take less damage

And actually learn enemy patterns

[cedar delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png?ex=69aa1a8a&is=69a8c90a&hm=be7e8755fa9ad70a40196ce9def3b75c4e929cc927c2095b1e421d360e624c84&

[brave shuttle]

Maybe I need that shield.

Oh I thought those were bombs so I didnt choose those doors.

[median sphinx]

[cedar delta]

You might want to slow down and like look at stuff, TBH. No offense

[brave shuttle]

I did. It looks just like a bomb. Lol

[sweet brook]

The darkness??

[brave shuttle]

Blue laurels

[median sphinx]

we don't have troll bombs in this game don't worry

[sweet brook]

Idk how to tell you this but you can't avoid all blue laurels

Like

It's forced on you to take lmfao

It's never a blue vs gold laurel in this game

It's impossible to avoid them

[brave shuttle]

Well I only saw like 1 or 2 and there was a choice

[median sphinx]

how many keys do you have right now

• those you spent

[sweet brook]

Through Tartarus you'll probably see like 5 or something before you get to Meg

[brave shuttle]

Idk how to check.

[sweet brook]

Maybe less but like minimum 2-3 or something

[median sphinx]

what weapons have you unlocked + look at bottom right corner

at house of hades

[brave shuttle]

Sword bow and spear. Spear and bow sucks. I just use the sword.

[cedar delta]

You take that back about the bow

[median sphinx]

idk they haven't unlocked aspects

we all know hera bow best bow

[cedar delta]

Even so, regular old bow is great with Dash-Strikes

[brave shuttle]

I dont kill things as fast with the bow. The sword is the fastest killing weapon.

Bow was really slow. Spear is by far the worst.

[cedar delta]

I don't know why you keep rejecting our statements given you haven't seen much of the game

[brave shuttle]

What statement?

[sweet brook]

If you dask strike with bow it's a lot better and faster

[brave shuttle]

I did. I died so much doing it.

[median sphinx]

just play the game lol everybody dies at their first 50 runs or so

[cedar delta]

Go back and read through chat, I guess. Every time someone states something, you say something to the contrary

[brave shuttle]

Maybe I choose the wrong blessings. I need to look up tier lists.

[cedar delta]

Oof tierlists are fraught

[median sphinx]

anyways have you been using your whole attack set (attack, special, cast)

for sword

[sweet brook]

Online tier lists are god awful for this game lmfao

[brave shuttle]

I forget to cast because my melee is is stronger.

[sweet brook]

Bc no good/top player has ever made a tier list bc they know there's much more nuance than what can be seen in a tier list

[brave shuttle]

Well so far Zeus blessings seems to be the best.

[cedar delta]

I think you're going about this the wrong way. You're thinking "which is bigger" rather than "how do I get all these thingies to synergize"

[brave shuttle]

I suck at strategy. I just want to swing and hit big numbers and clear screens while I get stronger.

[median sphinx]

try picking +% boons for your attack (artemis, athena, demeter, aphrodite)
sword's attack has quite some damage so it would benefit from a percentage boost

[cedar delta]

This might not be the game for you then

[brave shuttle]

Then why is it recommended to me a lot

[sweet brook]

I mean it might not be your genre of game to begin with lmfao

[cedar delta]

Because it's a great game for players who are willing to engage with it

[sweet brook]

If you bang your head against the wall for this game with no strategy you'll eventually get it but you'll have to accept that it's gonna take a long while for it to work lmao

[brave shuttle]

Well I can sometimes one-shot things which is satisfying.

So this is a strategy game?

[median sphinx]

it has a strategy part

[brave shuttle]

Hopefully steam gives a refund

[sweet brook]

Lmfao

If you have less than 2 hrs gameplay and it's been less than 2 weeks then it should be fine to return

[cedar delta]

Best of luck with the refund

[brave shuttle]

I dont do strategy games

There wasn't a strategy tag

[sweet brook]

My guy really does not want to think when playing games lmfao

[sweet brook]

I mean there's strategy elements bc the game requires thinking

[median sphinx]

oops

[sweet brook]

And thoughts to put things together

[brave shuttle]

I played under 2 hours. Steam will give a refund.

[sweet brook]

Welp best of luck finding a game that doesn't require thoughts

Just bc a game requires thinking doesn't make it a strategy game lmfao

[median sphinx]

doom

[brave shuttle]

You know not all games are difficult like hades

[cedar delta]

Do racing games count, I wonder

[brave shuttle]

Besides I beat elden ring

[sweet brook]

I mean sure but then many games that aren't strategy games require thinking and effort

My brother in Christ elden ring is probably harder than hades LMAO

Elden ring, the game where you have to learn enemy attack patterns and upgrade the right stats to maximize damage

[brave shuttle]

Elden ring was easier to figure out.

[cedar delta]

Actually, I'm inclined to agree with LuciferIsa here. A loooot of Souls can be distilled into "dodge a bunch, then hit when possible"

[median sphinx]

oh have you met duo boons

[sweet brook]

I guess for "figuring it out"

[median sphinx]

the OP boons basically

[sweet brook]

But like it really feels like very little effort was put into figuring out hades lmao

[brave shuttle]

Lol. I dont know how to explain the type of games I used to play as a kid.

[cedar delta]

Do you remember a title at least?

[median sphinx]

no I mean in hades there is a type of (temporary) upgrade that gods give in pairs

[brave shuttle]

I dont. Im almost 40. Haha

[median sphinx]

and those are OP

[cedar delta]

Did jazz finally graduate from Hades 1 speedrunning?

[sweet brook]

I think she does a run every now and then and posts it but otherwise she's def graduated

[cedar delta]

Oh, I see. About time!

[sweet brook]

Or she's doing h2 stuff but I wouldn't know lol

[cedar delta]

I eventually need to play H2 too...

I'm actually surprised to see some old names about

[brave shuttle]

Might be dungeon crawlers I am looking for.

But not Diablo. I had enough of that franchise or games like it

[carmine jungle]

What aspect is good for the sword and what godly boons should I prioritize?

[cedar delta]

Nemesis is quite nice for straightforward play, and it wants high Attack% boons like Aphrodite. Poseidon is fun for casual casting, and it works pretty well with a bevy of casts: https://www.leereamsnyder.com/hades-build-guide#aspect-of-poseidon-blade

[carmine jungle]

Thanks

[naive plank]

Does refreshing nectar snack with boons that already grant upgrade rarity?

[somber frigate]

only the hidden +10% epic and duo/legendary chance

they just set the minimum rarity to be rare rather than boosting the rarity of boons

[naive plank]

Thanks

[humble ridge]

man

I played hades like months later with heat 2 and picked rail gun and in first attempt I reached hades and lost

why tf is he so strong 😭

[carmine jungle]

He’s a god

[humble ridge]

well I finally did beat him again for the 3rd time after so long

I love gauntlets sm

[carmine jungle]

GUYS WHY DIDNT I KNOW THE DEMTER AND POSEIDON DUO WAS SO B R O K E N

MELTED EVERYTHING

[humble ridge]

what was the ability it made tell

I love Demeter I use her cast everytime

[carmine jungle]

You need the Poseidon cast and a Boon from Demeter (either her call, attack, or special) and it’ll come up. I also recommend getting the Poseidon boon that makes you Poseidon boon inflict Rupture as it makes the enemies die like, instantly.

[humble ridge]

ooo

aigh I'll look into it

[sweet brook]

Do it on Achilles for extra damage for your cast lol

[daring onyx]

how do you open the door in the corridor thats locked? near achilles.

[plain kraken]

just give it time, do more runs and it will become available. Maybe check in with the contractor every now and again about it, I forget exactly how to open it.

[dusty vault]

Big door is during the main story
Small door is after a flashback + item from house contractor

[daring onyx]

ok thanks! also i hav 2 more questions:

1. what do i do with the big honey
2. what is the secret stash in keepsakes?

[versed blade]

1. give it to people
2. connected to #1

[daring onyx]

what is better? death deffiance or stubborn defiance?

[sweet brook]

generally speaking death defiance

stubborn defiance is good if you risk dying in every room, death defiance is a lot better for bosses

and most people struggle with bosses more so than normal combats

[daring onyx]

but what if i die once against megara and twice against the champs. will that not leave me with 0 lives till and against hades?

[shut hill]

There are ways to refill DDs like Patroclus, Charon Wells, and Athena boons

[somber frigate]

I think you might have bigger problems if you’re dying to megeara

[daring onyx]

hehehe im new

[somber frigate]

But yeah you’ve just got to use patroclus and the well mainly, and athena boons if you get her in pool

[daring onyx]

i encountered patroclus for the first time now

[somber frigate]

He’ll show up about as often as Sisyphus shows up in Tartarus

[daring onyx]

so i have lost all the death deifances after the champs. can i get a few back after here till the final boss?

[shut hill]

You have a chance to see 1 or more Well of Charon which all have a chance to have Kiss of Styx (DD refill) for 200 gold

[daring onyx]

THANKS!

[shut hill]

Also I believe you can roll them

[somber frigate]

Yeah

[daring onyx]

lmao! Funny thing. I got him for the first time and i messaged here as soon as i did.

and i deleted the message when i realised theres a second phase

[daring onyx]

how do you unlock the 4th hidden aspect of a weapon?

[somber frigate]

Spear is the first one you get, and that’s by having 5 aspects in general, and talking to achilles enough

then the rest of them are some variation of have at least 5 titans blood in that weapon, get a dialogue line from the specific npc for said weapon while using the weapon, then get the awakening phrase from them (no weapon usage required at this point)

Sword -> nyx
Shield -> Chaos
Bow -> artemis
Fists -> Asterius
Rail -> Zeus

[wraith oxide]

you can also get via boons like athena

[humble ridge]

I didn't even know there's a thing called stubborn defiance

[lapis chasm]

It took me a while to understand what it actually is too

[humble ridge]

do tell

I didn't know I could actually complete a run with spear ngl

spear is nice

[dusty vault]

At some point nyx will talk you about how the mirror is getting stronger

This unlocks alt skills to each of your talents in the mirror

Stubborn replaces death defiance with 1 revive that heals for 30% but regens after each chamber

Vs defiances that can have up to 3, heal for 50% but can't be regenerated naturally

[humble ridge]

well I'm on run 51 is that still too early

[dusty vault]

I'd check if your mirror has it already

There should be an arrow icon left to each skill

Otherwise I think it just unlocks by putting darkness in?

[humble ridge]

I'll keep an eye on it

thanks tho

[cerulean dune]

So I'm not really a new player, I have like 20 hours in the game and have escaped twice, but can anyone give me tips for any of the weapons besides the bow? I feel too vulnerable when I'm using anything else. I can usually make it pretty far, but I lose all my lives and a bunch of health, then I get to the last boss and... well I get wrecked.

[green meteor]

i don't know what tips you can get for each weapon, but i can recommend using sword, cuz it's really easy to use and hammer can give you healing hits in exchange for max health

[carmine jungle]

What happens when I get all the statues unlocked?

[cedar delta]

Every weapon wants to Dash-Strike constantly. In that sense, they somewhat all play the same as the bow

[cerulean ether]

Is there a good strategy/build for dealing with the poison rats in Styx?

Had a near perfect Elysium run and then got rekt

[cedar delta]

Any good build that does lots of damage can take them out okay. Alternatively, Poseidon pinball with Breaking Wave 😎

[sudden reef]

Yeah Poseidon always reks Styx because the rooms are so tight.

[sleek shell]

Hi guys I'm new. Although im not neccecarily a new player cuz i dont have the game yet lol i just wanted to know if the game is worth getting for a nintendo switch player like me. And does the game have an ending other than escaping like is there more than just hacking and slashign through the enemies?

[shut hill]

There is story that builds up through doing runs, an ending that you get after beating enough runs, and an epilogue that you get after doing a whole lot more

But I would say the main draw of the game for me is the runs themselves

[sleek shell]

ohh ok i get it

do u know if its good on nintendo switch?

nvm i think it will run decently at least

ill prolly get it when it goes on sale

cuz i think it goes on sale on switch often

thanks guys

[dusty vault]

Yup

Outside of very specific rooms/combat I've never had it lag

Is also just a really good "take out your switch and do a run"

[sleek shell]

k thanks👍

[sweet brook]

the game won a hugo award for the story so yes lmao

[humble ridge]

I love hades

[median sphinx]

I love hera

[carmine jungle]

Which dice is better? The one for rerolling rooms or rereolling boons?

[novel swift]

Rerolling boons is much better in almost all scenarios

[leaden whale]

Still going for my 1st win with the twin-fists

What build should i go for?

[shut hill]

Ares attack Athena special Athena dash Merciful End

[versed blade]

Flat damage on attack, % increase on special, Zeus/Dio call

[main radish]

What can I use ambrosia for?

Rn i have an offer for 500 darkness if I give one but Idk if I should take it

[shut hill]

It's the next step after Nectar when you have enough hearts

[main radish]

Ah so like those lock hearts that hades himself has

[sour quarry]

How many hearts before ambrosia? How many ambrosia per character?

[somber frigate]

6? or was it one higher

Most characters only take 1-2 ambrosia, some can take more

[sour quarry]

So it won't let you give extra ambrosia that does nothing to the story?

[somber frigate]

They only have so much dialogue each

after that point

they just stop

Most characters have 1-2 dialogues after their final hearts are unlocked and some have 3-4

i think the price also increases for charavters with subsequent giftings

Like 1 -> 2 -> 3 -> 4

[leaden whale]

Got my 1st win with athena dash and the twin fists at 16th run

Hell mode

#h1-victory-boasting message

Oh this is the build.

Quite cheating with athena dash

[daring onyx]

how many nectars to give skelly so i can complete his quest?

[outer flint]

As many as he will let you

Then he'll like have a dialogue hint in what else you should do

(if you need help on doing his 'special reauest' you could ask it in this server or check the wiki)

[alpine sparrow]

🌒 🌕 🌘

[main radish]

Is thans first appearance always in elizayasium?

[somber frigate]

Yes

elysium*

[main radish]

I used the mic cause I didn't know how to spell it

[main radish]

Where can I find the court musician thing not the sentence that Stand that lets me listening to music

[charred kayak]

remember Disco

then Elysium

should come in naturally then

[charred kayak]

first tab on the house contractor iirc

[main radish]

You have any tips for me i am Spear main and I favor Artemis crit boons, I try to beat the game I am at the final stretch but hades himself get me everytime

Woth those damn summoned wretched

[charred kayak]

use the spinning attack and dash attack as well

they cover a huge area

[main radish]

I usual trade the spin for thr continuous stab attack with the hammer

[charred kayak]

also invest more in athena's boons, specially athena's dash

[charred kayak]

nah not worth it

[main radish]

I Aways try to go for her dash when I make an escape attempt

I do these type of runs
Gem
Nector
Darkness
Key
And escape

[charred kayak]

if you want more damage (you probably do), use more calls

[main radish]

I try to ger the call at full powrr

[charred kayak]

zeus' call is a good example

[charred kayak]

not worth the trade most of the time

its better to get more dps than more burst damage

zeus' and dionysius' calls are very good examples of this

[main radish]

BTW quick question

[cedar delta]

Artemis call doodoo

[charred kayak]

artemis' and aphrodite's are usually not worth it for this reason

and also for their low damage compared to the others

[charred kayak]

yes, go ahead

[main radish]

You know how when you clear a chamber fast enough with Hermes gift you get 1% 1.1% 1.2% dodge increase

[charred kayak]

yes

the plume

what about it

[main radish]

My last run with spear and Artemis when I was at thr trying to find cerbs food I put it on and even though I finished those chambers in like 3 to 6 seconds they didn't give me the boosts

[charred kayak]

its really inconsistent sometimes

its not that relianle

reliable

and the boosts also kinda suck

but the plume has some niche edge cases like getting hermes' legendary boons

i hear theyre pretty good for some builds

[main radish]

Can you dm me a build to try tomorrow im heading to bed

And I dont like thr time im open when I charge the spin attack of thr spear

[charred kayak]

but yeah, i would probably not take that

[charred kayak]

its fine, no one does

you just have to position better ig

[main radish]

And what trinket would you suggest

[charred kayak]

ehh, i dont usually work on builds

[main radish]

Idk who i have

[charred kayak]

i mostly go with i think is best

[charred kayak]

any that spawn gods

or rather, guarantee the spawn of certain gods' boons

[main radish]

Like Athenas pendant or Zeuss ring

[charred kayak]

yeees

they manipulate the rng in your favor

[main radish]

What about when im at the end

[charred kayak]

thats usually really good in the long run

[main radish]

Aka at cerb

[charred kayak]

well, i usually go with Eurydice's trinket, the acorn

but i dont think youve met her yet

[main radish]

I have but only once so I couldn't give her nectar for the trinket

[charred kayak]

yeah, do that

its really good

[main radish]

If thr game will give her when im at lava lands!

[charred kayak]

it can protect you from a whole 3 attacks from the area's boss

aka Hades in this case

[main radish]

I've done several runs with thr purposes of getting to her but I always reach bone hydra before her

[charred kayak]

thats rough

[main radish]

Or I meet her but I dont have a nector on me cause I gave it to a god

Like say Zeus

[charred kayak]

yesh

yeah

then save up nectar and keep playing

[main radish]

Thr game hardly gives me any

[charred kayak]

youll make it out eventually

[main radish]

Like every run I either get one or none

[charred kayak]

yeah

[main radish]

Sometimes 2 but with thr help of our good old friend of God of wine

[charred kayak]

thats usually the right amount

you should be prioritizing things that actively help your run

like getting max health, boons, etc

[main radish]

Could we move this to dms

[charred kayak]

yeah sure

[main radish]

So we can continue talking tomorrow

[charred kayak]

hmu

[desert oracle]

so i'm trying to do a all green mirror run and because i'm new i have nothing and no keys so can someone help me? i'm using Ascpet of Chiron and Dio for his poison damage, and i am trying to keep my distance, i'm struggling to get past the furies. i'm trying to do this for the Fates, and it's hard.

i just recorded some gameplay

[outer flint]

I think the biggest thing with the green-side of the mirror is the loss of greater reflex (2nd dash) and stubborn defiance instead of death defiance

[desert oracle]

And I can’t show it.

[outer flint]

I'd recommend slowing down your gameplay as much as possible

[desert oracle]

i done that. and i don't have that 100 health start either

is there a better weapon i should be useing?

[outer flint]

I honestly don't know

For the fates, you could always do it in segments

have some of the red side on

I tried to do what you did, doing all the green at once, but I eventually just did it in groups

balancing out some of the hard green ones with stuff like greater reflex or death defiance

[desert oracle]

yea, i'm thinking that the 8 titen blood reward is pretty and i need it to max out another weapon i'm planing to take out to face Hades.

and another problem i'm having is getting past the furies.

[outer flint]

how many runs do you have?

[desert oracle]

so far i've died to 2 out of three

2 so far

on my third

i need meg, i could manage her, it's her sisters.

[outer flint]

wait you're on your 3rd run and you've unlocked all the weapons?

and like are using aspects?

[desert oracle]

you mean in total.

?

[outer flint]

yes

[desert oracle]

i don't know

like 100

or more

[outer flint]

that makes more sense

[desert oracle]

yea sorry

i thought you meant adtempts at the all green

[outer flint]

For getting past the furies, the main thing is to understand how the dodge works and get used to using it

When you hit dodge/dash, it immediately starts invicibility frames

[desert oracle]

but i only have one

[outer flint]

when you hit attack while in the dodge, it triggers a dash-attack, but this removes the i-frames

[desert oracle]

so that's tricky

[outer flint]

it is tricky

in normal circumstances where you have 2, you can cover more ground and you have a lot more time to dodge

when using only one dash, you'll have to reposition yourself earlier

like as soon as the attack is telegraphed, you will have to start moving out of it, you won't have enough time to deal more damage

[desert oracle]

mmm, ok.

[outer flint]

(please shackle don't get online and be dissapointed in me)

[desert oracle]

now that i think of it. i've roasted Hermes for not giving me a thrid dash, now i think i should say sorry to him. i took my second dash for granted

lol

[outer flint]

oh you could try the aspect of ||beowolf||

[desert oracle]

no

[outer flint]

okay (._.)

it gives 2 extra dashes

[desert oracle]

really?

who gives it?

[outer flint]

have you gotten any of the hidden aspects?

[desert oracle]

so far i have rama, and Arthur

[outer flint]

okay

do you have any titan blood put into the fists?

[desert oracle]

i don't know. i think i have. i think i unlocked all the second aspects for all the weapons.

[outer flint]

i lied

[desert oracle]

one second i'll die and tell you. (or try my best and fall to the girl who only says merdur)

[outer flint]

it's the aspect of gilgamesh

that's the one for fists

[desert oracle]

i died

and not to fuies

[outer flint]

okay uh mayb gilgamesh is out of reach

you have to have atleast 5 titarn blood invested into the fists

[desert oracle]

i have level one aspcet of Telos

[outer flint]

and then while wearing them, get to the 3rd area, elysium, and fight asterius solo

don't you have to get a clear for the fates' quest?

like isn't it get a clear with every part of the mirror

[desert oracle]

yea. that's why i'm doing all green

[outer flint]

and doewsn't this message imply that you haven't beaten hades yet?

[desert oracle]

i have

3 times

no more than that

[outer flint]

oh ican't read

ignore me (;-;)

[desert oracle]

we all have those moments

[outer flint]

i think the 2 options you have are to like slow down your gameplay and be really methodical

like get one hit and immediately run

or do the green side in segments

the hardest will be the lack of a 2nd dash, so i'd probably do that one by itself ngl

[desert oracle]

Achilles's aspect on the spear

it has that bull rush

[outer flint]

yeah

it's really good

[desert oracle]

i can use that as an extra dash

[outer flint]

interesting

[desert oracle]

i've used it like that in a hades fight

Gods i'm so dumb

[outer flint]

you could also do that on sheild and abuse the fact that you can't get hurt while charging the bull rush

and get the hammer quick charge or whatever that makes it faster

[desert oracle]

chaos shield

[outer flint]

no twin

don't ever utter that word

chaos sheild is probably the worst aspect in the game

[desert oracle]

ik it's for cowards. and Achilles says. fear is for the weak.

and i've made it to Eliysem with it and died at the hands of a loud mouth and his pet

[outer flint]

oh you meant the sheild of chaos in general

thought you were talking about the aspect of chaos

the aspect is horrible

[desert oracle]

that was what i was talking about

[outer flint]

good, that one sucks

[desert oracle]

i used a strong Ares boon

[outer flint]

zeus aspect with zeus special is all you need ❤️‍🩹

[desert oracle]

can't afford it

no titens blood

i would love to try out new aspects

but i can't afford it

😭

i'm pour

poor*

that word

can't spell sometimes

[desert oracle]

another question. for stygan soul what casts work better for it?

[shut hill]

Dionysus, Ares, and Demeter

[analog radish]

infernal is prefered for ares since the blades dont actually last very long

you get very good uptime on rifts with infernal soul since you always have your stones

[main radish]

I have most if the trinkets i just thans
Zeus
aphrodite
Eurydice
And some other one who idk who

Who is the last one

[somber frigate]

You need to reach the credits for the last 2

[main radish]

Last two.

?

I can Get
zeus
aphrodite
Eurydice
And than

Who's the final one

[somber frigate]

Do you have ||Persephone and Hades||?

[main radish]

I have not escaped yet

But I was close once

[somber frigate]

Right

[main radish]

Also should I use my 2 diamonds to get ambrosia

I already free the musician and got the rod

Would you say is should or shouldn't use my diamonds for ambrosia @somber frigate

[somber frigate]

You get a pretty decent amount of ambrosia and there are a few more important work orders for diamonds

[main radish]

And how do I get that little music stand

I dont see it in amy of the contractors slots

Tabs

[somber frigate]

There should be a “work stand deluxe” or something that costs diamonds

and unlocks the rest of the diamond upgrades

You need a lot of the other work orders before you can get it

the run-boosting stuff is also only in the work orders tab

[main radish]

How fo I use thr ambrosia i have every normal heart with Artemis but it won't let me give her it to finish the final lock heart

[somber frigate]

You need to complete her favour for it to get unlocked

which hers is just a lot of talking for her to talk about Callisto

[main radish]

So i need to speak with alot so use her arrow head alot

[desert oracle]

so wouldn't Dio work better for infranl soul? mainly because his damage is like a bomb so wouldn't that be better if you can shoot that three times or am i tripping?

[frigid lynx]

js curios some ppl

said that u can kill asterius in the minibos area itself with crazy numbers

is that tru and if so what happens in the theseus fight

[somber frigate]

Nothing changes from the usual hp dock

[somber frigate]

it sticks around for 5s, so getting one back every 3s is more beneficial than chasing down the cast 5s later from a time perspective

for the castpects that are using it you’d be aiming for cast damage and additional casts, an additional casts scale way harder on stygian soul

[desert oracle]

yea, ok that checks out. i am adtemping a all green mirror build, and it isn't an easy thing.

[sweet brook]

it's very true but you need stupid numbers for that iirc lmao it's not really possible to do practically

[somber frigate]

Ithink a decently pommed dio call does it?

With left over stacks

[sweet brook]

oh that could work yeah

[somber frigate]

Oh man

This sounds pretty rough ngl

[desert oracle]

it is

and i'm mainly trying to pull it off for the list of mionor prophacies

because 8 titen blood sounds nice

[somber frigate]

There are a lot of solid green side options but there’s also a fair few that just suck tbh

[desert oracle]

like the one dash and starting with 50 health

i'm litgit glass

i need Athena or it's impossable

[somber frigate]

I hadn’t even thought about high confidence being a possible negative because I’m speedrun-pilled

Bow and shield don’t take the hit from losing the second dash nearly as much

So I feel like those are probably solid options for this

[outer harness]

hey so i just finished 1 run with every weapon. should i increase my heat level to 1 or 8?

[main radish]

How do I use the aspects

Like chiron

[cedar delta]

Select a weapon, select it again, then pick the aspect from the resulting menu

[main radish]

What about those hidden aspects

How can I get thrm

[outer flint]

there's a pinned message in #h1-story-discussion

[outer harness]

Ok so i have unlocked every aspect i can, and finished 10 runs, returned presephone to the house of hades. But still achillies hasnt unlocked the aspect of guan yu. Tf do i do?

[somber frigate]

You need 5 aspects unlocked across all your weapons

And then a bunch of chatting with achilles

[outer harness]

I have unlocked every aspect

[somber frigate]

Like you have levels in 5 aspects

[outer harness]

Yes

[somber frigate]

Then it’s just achilles bottleneckjng you

[outer harness]

Ahh

[somber frigate]

the specifics for the rest of the hidden aspects are pinned as the third message in #h1-story-discussion

you just need Guan-Yu revealed before you can reveal those

[outer harness]

What do you get when you complete the hearts by giving gifts to olympian gods?

[merry zinc]

it's needed for the epilogue

[main radish]

Somethings wrong I beat hades with thr extreme measures on but the trophy for clearing elysium with that did pop

Didn't

[somber frigate]

Was it on extreme measures 3?

[main radish]

1

[somber frigate]

That’s why

each additional level of extreme measures changes the next boss

It needs to be at least EM3 for it to be an altered Heroes fight to count for the achievement

[main radish]

Also whem I fought the 2 bull got on a knee taunting me what was supposed to do

[somber frigate]

That’s just what he does when he hits 50% hp

You can either wait it out or just fight Theseus in the meantime

[main radish]

No i mean he just left himself open I could get hits in

No shield

[somber frigate]

weird

[main radish]

Was something supposed happen or?

[somber frigate]

I can’t think of that happening outside of him hitting 50% hp like

[main radish]

No i mean was his taunt supposed to do something?

[somber frigate]

No

It’s not an attack move he has

[main radish]

Like say i get hit to every i hit when he is taunting me

[somber frigate]

Nope

You can just attack him

[main radish]

What your main in h1

[main radish]

Like is it the bow, shield, gun, ect.

[somber frigate]

It was Bow, now that I’m doing a lot more casual Hades gaming I just do rail a lot

Hbu

[main radish]

Im bow but I am wanting to try either thr paws or spear

I favor constant attack where basically I can hold thr □ button down

And attack

[somber frigate]

Spears best hammer by far is flurry jab so

It’s probably straight up your alley then

[main radish]

Thanks

And which aspect

Rn I've worked on the bow and gotten two of it aspects maxed

And my favored buds are with Artemis

Builds

So which aspect you suggest.

?

[somber frigate]

Achilles then

[main radish]

Wow

[somber frigate]

It gets up to a wicked amount of strike/cast additive

[main radish]

I just beat the two with the twin fists fast faster then I usually have

[somber frigate]

and it removes some hammers so you have better odds for the relevant strike ones

[main radish]

Uncle p's dash is powerful

When mixed with Artemis crit stuff

[somber frigate]

Yeah

It’s meta for pretty much every build that isn’t Merciful End

for speedrun builds anyways

To the point where the swords specifically starts with it over a strike boon last I checked

[main radish]

You have ps?

[somber frigate]

Nah

I use switch and I have it on steam but only to check how some things work in the lab with codex mod

[main radish]

Also I know i cam use the codex to see what boons i need to fulfill a prophecy am I able to that but with the weapons hammers

[somber frigate]

No

Here if you want a solid look at what all the hammers do

https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/

[main radish]

No no I mean those prophecies, thank you so much.

Like god of the heavens
Goddess of wisdom

[somber frigate]

You can’t do that for hammers

[main radish]

For 150 gem each

[somber frigate]

You’re just going to have to see the little scrolls next to the name that indicate you haven’t picked it up yet

[main radish]

Ok

You wanna move this to dms?

[somber frigate]

Sure?

[near vigil]

hey so ive been trying to the chaos legendary, i believe all i need is any other of his boons transformed? but i havent gotten it in a very long time. do i need to have a free death defiance spot or am i just like unlucky af?

[dusty vault]

Unlucky as hell

Their legendary is not affected by rarity bonuses either

[somber frigate]

Probably average luck tbh

It is a 1/100 shot

[near vigil]

😭

[main radish]

Is ramas aspect able to use flurry shot

[fresh bridge]

no

[weary birch]

Hey all! New to the game! I started playing it around the time of v1.0 , but I got distracted with other things. I'm finally back and giving it a go!

I've gotten to the Elysian Fields boss, using the bow, but that's the best I've been able to do so far in four runs that got me that far.