h1-for-new-players

[somber frigate]

There are select hammers that don’t but otherwise all strike buffs apply to dash-strikes

[rain pelican]

but..

dashing randomly would disorient me

[somber frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=68a12722&is=689fd5a2&hm=52bdcdb7a016117ed4532304881e9e166731e5407fd02f93687003b4345ba2f0&

[rain pelican]

again I'm too ass to Not Dash Into Something

or not react fast enough

[somber frigate]

Does this look smoother or less smooth than the ages a standing strike takes

[rain pelican]

right

[grave prawn]

this is obviously being carried by hydraulic might and divine dash 🙄

[rain pelican]

i asked why are you dealing 800 damage

in tartarus

[grave prawn]

aphro attack on max level zagbow

[somber frigate]

Crits / hydraulic might I can’t remember what else

Boiling blood aphro strike family favourites

[rain pelican]

i have exactly One titan blood idek how people upgrade ts

[somber frigate]

Perfect shot from the looks of it too

[somber frigate]

Do you have all your weapons yet

[rain pelican]

yes

[grave prawn]

you unlock a way to get way more after your first win

[somber frigate]

You should have the aspects feature then

[rain pelican]

makes sense cuz i never freaking won

[somber frigate]

You don’t need to win to get aspects

You just need to have done a run after unlocking all the weapons

[rain pelican]

should i invest my one singular titan blood on this crit aspect

for a mere three percent

[somber frigate]

nah there are better aspects to get at level 1

[rain pelican]

i grabbed a few

i may have grabbed chiron before zag for bow....

[somber frigate]

nemesis / hera / zeus are really solid early options

since level 1 gets you baseline functionality and that’s the most important part for those aspects

Ofc they’re way better at max but they’re still S tier at level 1

[rain pelican]

i don't think i have anything meaningful to unlock, let me see

[somber frigate]

achilles and eris are honourable mentions afterwards that are a bit more blood hungry but solid starts for those weapons

Either way

You would be able to achieve a pretty respectable amount of damage that early on the other aspects of bow as well

that clip wouldn’t change much on chiron the main use is to show off how much better dash-striking is speedwise for keeping you safe

[rain pelican]

so did i pick the worst aspect for bow

[somber frigate]

you picked the one that is really beginner friendly

but doesn’t really play like the other bows

[rain pelican]

plays more like a sniper rifle

mark the guy and send the swat team

[somber frigate]

it works and it works pretty well at what it does but it’s so slowww

lemme book off a full two-week vacation for the special animation

To deal single target damage

💔

But it’s solid and everybody gets good results with it early

[rain pelican]

the only meaningful thing i can do with one titan blood is the +4 ammo for exa, otherwise probably crit bow

[somber frigate]

You can always just

Save your titans blood

[rain pelican]

i currently don't have a way to get more

[somber frigate]

so you can buy something for 2 or 3 blood etc

[rain pelican]

actually i can trade my ambrosia

but is that wise

[somber frigate]

Trading up resources/ prophecies / 2 more ways after final boss

[rain pelican]

[somber frigate]

Eh I’m pretty sure you get more than enough ambrosia from all the bounties if you knock out all 126 and I don’t know how much use you have for them this early

[rain pelican]

I'll grab Two blood then

and have 2 ambrosia left maybe

and i still can't get over orpheus bro is actually insane

[somber frigate]

They’re also all renewable resources thanks to trading and plunderers keep and fishing

[rain pelican]

I've found exactly One Fish in the three runs I've had with the rod, how rare is this

[somber frigate]

it’s a % chance every room but then they’re a cooldown afterwards of x rooms depending on the biome

It’s not too uncommon to see a few fish each run

[rain pelican]

so am i that unlucky

[somber frigate]

1-3 is pretty common but also it depends on how far your run goes

[rain pelican]

all three died at the final boss

[somber frigate]

I want to say that’s been the average I’ve had over the last 2 months speedrunning a stupid amount

I think I added 100 escapes to my savefile over the last 2 months so

[rain pelican]

😭😭

[somber frigate]

You may just be on an unlucky streak

[rain pelican]

when will i get good

[somber frigate]

I’d say probably pretty soon?

The thing with roguelites is you get more experience and things click and then you keep on going

that’s why there are optional difficulty modifiers later, to keep the challenge once you’ve adapted

That’s what humans do

adapt, overcome

Oh ykw I can give you some other general building tips

Hermes is pretty general because he’s nearly always a part of your run

Due to him circumventing the godpool mechanic

[rain pelican]

okay so hold on i grabbed the bow and adjusted mirror with artemis and I'm already doing 400 a crit on the first room what

[rain pelican]

the what now

[somber frigate]

When you take a boon from a god/goddess they’re added to your god pool and once you hit 4 of them you can’t naturally find more gods or goddesses outside of your pool

chaos and hermes don’t count

[rain pelican]

also i got a fish but i whiffed

[somber frigate]

No you can’t remove a god from your godpool once you have them

[rain pelican]

ohh i never knew this
i try to stay conservative anyway

[somber frigate]

So effectively after hitting 4 gods your consistency for getting boons doubles

[rain pelican]

Hermes makes sense cuz he is able to bring souls to the underworld himself

[somber frigate]

since your odds of getting the gods you already have goes from 1/7(8) to 1/4

Cuz he’s built different and doesn’t work like the olympians aside from the fact that you can sell his boons

[rain pelican]

i assume he just casually runs into you in person and hands you his thing

[somber frigate]

Hermes mechanically is like “what if we took chaos (not having core boons or duos, and having worse rare/epic odds), olympian boons (being able to sell the boons), and hammers (you can only get 2 outside of styx) and mixed them all together”

[rain pelican]

truly a jack of all trades

[somber frigate]

but yeah where was I going with this

Hermes

Damage

Greatest reflex is extra damage/mobility/safety on pretty much every weapon thru added dashes = more dash boon proks and more dash strikes = more damage

less straight forward is
Hyper Sprint -> Rush Delivery for a large global additive damage boost

Or it’s younger sibling:
Greater Haste -> Rush Delivery for a much lower global additive damage boost

[somber frigate]

This can get bonkers with ichors for even more added movement speed too

We love multiplicative movespeed bonuses

so yeah there are a few routes to really knock your damage out of the park with hermes

That apply to pretty much all weapons

Sorry if I’m yapp yapp yapping away here

[rain pelican]

I'll read your stuff in a bit i just grabbed heart rend already 😭🙏🙏

this COULD BE THE RUN

oh my god dude i can't Not cuss

[somber frigate]

It cannot be that hard

I say as someone who accidentally developed it this year and now am dropping them randomly verbally

My texting habits have not been infected thou

[rain pelican]

okay.. final boss time..

i pray

I GOT HIM HAHAHA

[somber frigate]

Sweet

Take a ss and throw it in #h1-victory-boasting

[rain pelican]

oh i literally closed the run menu damnit 😭

[somber frigate]

figures

[rain pelican]

but I'd have to take an actual photo cuz playstation

[somber frigate]

True true

I love being able to send ss to my phone on switch

No glare no fuzz

[rain pelican]

i need that 😔

[somber frigate]

It just takes 8 years so I often just turn the lights off and hit a quick photo unless my hands can’t stay steady

the whole process of connecting my phone to the switches wifi and then grabbing the qr code for the files

[somber frigate]

Like after I sub8ed I couldn’t hold my phone steady for the life of me

[rain pelican]

fym Sub Eight

Eight Minutes?

[somber frigate]

In-game time which the category is tracked in anyways

The real life time was like 25 or 30 minutes

[rain pelican]

still insane

i think i spent 8 minutes on the last fight alone

[somber frigate]

The fastest I’ve done that I actually know the split for was roughly 35s

but it averages out to like 50s

[rain pelican]

▶ please tell me how.

i didn't mean to add that

[somber frigate]

Good building skills and decisions + good luck + good mechanics

There isn’t a quick and easy way to just develop building skills or combat mechanics

[rain pelican]

I'll never comprehend 🥀

[somber frigate]

You just have to keep asking questions and figure it oit

[rain pelican]

question: why the hell does the last boss deal so much damage

it has to be percent based

[somber frigate]

Nah you’d figure it out a lot faster than I did if you lock in I spent like the first 60% of my hades game time dillydallying

[somber frigate]

It isn’t

But his lowest damaging move does 40

[rain pelican]

yeah like what the hell vro

[somber frigate]

It’s rough

That’s why an easy combo like weak + hyper sprint can go so far

Throw them together and 51% dr means he’s doing roughly half the damage

[rain pelican]

who's dr

oh damage reduction

yeah i never pick that up

[somber frigate]

If you’re hit by a skull Hades has his own boiling blood effect on you btw

[rain pelican]

cuz like why would i ever take a 7% damage reduction

[rain pelican]

yeah idk what that is

[somber frigate]

causing you to take 100% more damage

[rain pelican]

Oh.

[somber frigate]

Boiling blood like the mirror option

[rain pelican]

i don't remember things by name

[somber frigate]

That causes enemies with casts in them to take more strike and spdcial damage

[rain pelican]

wait

ok yeah

[somber frigate]

It’ll be hard to communicate about Hades without learning them 💔

There are a lot of named things

[rain pelican]

just say what they do 🥀

[somber frigate]

It’s a specific combo of literally any weaken source (30% damage reduction) and hyper sprint (30% damage reduction)

It’s not like bronze skin levels of useless

[rain pelican]

love how i don't have image perms

[somber frigate]

Aphrodite is strong on it’s own and hyper sprint is good for damage if you hit rush delivery so

[rain pelican]

what's the point of a chat for new players if they can't show their qualms and questions

[somber frigate]

you’re literally getting the damage reduction as you build for damage

[rain pelican]

btw aphrodite didn't give me a single useful thing that entire run

[somber frigate]

It’s a general thing on the server to block bots

you can use embeded image links

[rain pelican]

just give people perms after 24 hours like most other community servers 😭

[somber frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1027412687799468042/IMG_2293.png?ex=68a143a1&is=689ff221&hm=83908ce5bfa38dd7aaa2fa003c37d20f408fffd4b1b71c703fc700ebfeaecd4f&

[rain pelican]

W user of old client

me too

[somber frigate]

Nah that was just taken 3 years ago

💔

[rain pelican]

oh.

😔

[somber frigate]

I’d love to

I didn’t know it was an option

[rain pelican]

when do i unlock the Reroll ability for boons

[somber frigate]

Bottom of the mirror green side

[rain pelican]

the internet is a wonderful place

[rain pelican]

oooof course

[somber frigate]

Rerolling boon is so strong

Boosts your hyper delivery odds by a massive amount

[somber frigate]

No strike? Nor a special or dash to just apply the debuff

or sweet surrender to make the debuff a bit stronger

or dying lament to help clean up styx tunnels

[rain pelican]

ONLY dash

even the legendary she gave was just chance to inflict charm or something

[somber frigate]

or broken resolve for way stronger damage reduction from the weaken debuf

her legendary is kind of just free obols at a purging pool ngl

[rain pelican]

which was utterly useless cuz it goes out after 2 seconds

[rain pelican]

literally vro

[somber frigate]

Not all legendaries and duos are built the same

Not everything can be Splitting Bolt 💔

[rain pelican]

hate this damn floor btw

too ass

[somber frigate]

Styx ain’t so bad as long as you have solid quick aoe

Just one more dub for tidal dash

[rain pelican]

thank every god that daedalus gave me the chain shot thing for my bow's strike

I would've been beyond cooked without it

[somber frigate]

chain shot

[rain pelican]

dunno the name my friend

[somber frigate]

No

That’s the right name

I’m more expressing my opinion of it

[rain pelican]

ohh true

[somber frigate]

Chain shot is like the one bow strike hammer that’s not as massively positive but also not sniper shot

yk

[rain pelican]

sniper shot mmmm

nice edits btw

[somber frigate]

I’m a big text first fix later kinda discord user

[rain pelican]

mood

[somber frigate]

I love how sniper shot is anti-synergy with even hitting good bow hammers while also only triggering at a frankly unusable range

[rain pelican]

also i wish theseus Dies

[rain pelican]

i don't think i understand what this entails

[somber frigate]

Which part

The unusable range part of the fact that sniper shot is incompatible with 2 of the best bow hammers

so you cannot have sniper shot and point blank or twin shot

[rain pelican]

i see i see

[round vapor]

Wait what's that

What's all this info

Bow hammer?

We have those?

[harsh canyon]

yes, they are bow hammers.

all weapons have hammers, and some aspects have aspect-specific hammers (and others don’t have certain hammers that you’d find on the base weapons)

[round vapor]

What hammers? Like the hammer thing we find inside the chambers? Or is it a weapon hybrid?

Or u mean the thing we spend tartar blood on

[harsh canyon]

hammers are the reward you could find inside chambers that directly buffs/changes your current weapon for that run

[round vapor]

Oh okay okay now I know what you're talking about

Yeah

Were they talking about the best upgrades the hammer offers?

Is the hammer even good? I usually skip it when possible for anything else

[harsh canyon]

Shackle was discussing his opinion about 2 different bow hammers that don’t work/don’t show up with eachother

[harsh canyon]

yeah, in most cases the hammer is very good on most weapons, you usually don’t skip it unless for some specific builds/corcumstances

[grave prawn]

...you should always take hammer

some of the upgrades are insane

[outer flint]

It's supposed to be the other way around

always go for hammer over everything else

[round vapor]

I see

[round vapor]

Hmm okay okay

[round vapor]

Really? What are some good hammer upgrades for the gloves?

[round vapor]

I've really been messing up huh

[sterile solar]

hammers are pretty much the most impacting room you can have, you can only have 2 per run reward, 3 with anvil

[round vapor]

What's an anvil?

[grave prawn]

the best ones are breaching cross and long knuckle

[grave prawn]

it can only appear at the final shop, removes one hammer and gives you two random ones in its place

[round vapor]

I see I see

[round vapor]

Noted noted

What do they do?

[grave prawn]

breaching cross gives you +900% damage against armor, so you shred armored enemies

long knuckle makes your attack have like 4x longer range, giving you a ton of extra safety

[round vapor]

That's actually pretty cool, I usually don't pick armoured stuff ngl but I think I should

[rain pelican]

shackle my goat

[somber frigate]

It’s less of opinion and just how the meta is

Also sniper shots effective range is nigh unusable and the other bow hammers I mentioned are some of the best ones

[harsh canyon]

yeah sorry, i honestly skimmed the chat and went based on this message #h1-for-new-players message

[somber frigate]

Chain shot isn’t a meta hammer but it also isn’t strictly neutral-bad like sniper

I just personally go because if you’re good at lining up your shots you lose a lot of value from it and most of the time you have better options

6/12 of bow hammers are really strong so you almost always have a great option at your disposal as opposed to something like sword or spear

[rain pelican]

wait so you were straight up calling it bad

[somber frigate]

No I wasn’t

[rain pelican]

[somber frigate]

It’s good, just relatively not as good at literally half the hammers for bow

[rain pelican]

i see

[harsh canyon]

in other words you’re not nerfing yourself from base with it, but possibly not getting as much gain as the other hammer choices

[rain pelican]

i wonder if the game will replace the furies with a hecatoncheire at some point

since they're the ones that guard the way out of tartarus

[steady lark]

Dam lotm watcher

[sterile solar]

do you want the answer?

[rain pelican]

reader*

[steady lark]

[rain pelican]

maybe not tbh

tbh is she related to them, i can't remember a relation other than name and appearance

[steady lark]

spoilers

[rain pelican]

true

[abstract plinth]

For working towards high heat are the Hell Mode conditions worth playing under or are there better choices in Normal mode's Pact of Punishment?

This is under the assumption that one's goal other than basic clears is to improve at the game to clear higher heats (even beyond what the game rewards you for)

[abstract plinth]

Oh wait, nvm

[rain pelican]

unrelated but the title intro for hades at the start of the game is like the coolest thing ever

absolutely love the animation of it getting splashed in

[median sphinx]

oops sorry

[grave prawn]

||jury summons and calisthenics program|| is harder than you think, i only recommend it if you're planning to go above 40

[teal valley]

so um.. guess I'm not much new player anymore just beat epilogue. I was little underwhelmed ngl, but no spoilers so I'm gonna refrain from saying much more.

[abstract plinth]

Oof, I see

Also surprised to find out that PoP's apparently considered spoilers

[grave prawn]

well channel description says nothing about end boss and onwards 🤷‍♂️

if you ever needed more advice for heat you can ask in discussion or high heat strategies

[abstract plinth]

Fair, though I'd assumed given Hell Mode just gives it to you for free then 🤷

Alrighty

[rain pelican]

@somber frigate i beat another run
with the bow again cuz it's quite fun to occasionally deal a thousand damage from a distance

i also had pointblank but i basically never used it-

[median sphinx]

crush shot hera to the moon 🔥

[fathom fog]

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I am pretty sure I've fulfilled the requirements so why isnt dio talking to me

[sterile solar]

Dialogue rng maybe

[sage escarp]

^ this is very much a thing. There' are times that I've done something and had the gods or npcs comment about like like 3 runs later.

[rain pelican]

hermes slacking off with messages smh

[sage escarp]

Fr 🙂

[fathom fog]

weeeeeeeeeird

I've had more than 6 forged bonds for so many runs and took dio quite often

[fathom fog]

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wow it sure took a long time for zagreus to talk to pops about the pact

guess being limited to 1 conversation after each run somewhat limits this

[harsh canyon]

assuming you talked to him after every run ||I’m sure i got the pact conversation as the 1st one after my first clear||

[fierce goblet]

Hello everyone, I'm in need of help. I played this game for five hours but quit due to frustration after an awful run and uninstalled. I just want to know how long you took to beat the game. I just want to gauge how garbage I am at the game to decide if it's worth trying again or I'd rather just watch a lore video on YouTube

[grave prawn]

first win can easily take +20 hours, it's a roguelike game, you die A LOT, you learn from every death and push a little farther each time until your first win

[somber frigate]

The average person takes anywhere between 20-80 escape attempts to escape for the first time, often heavily dependent on prior experience with the roguelike/roguelite genre

I used to say 40-80 but more recently (in the past year or so), a lot more players with relevant experience have joined and pushed the lower bound down.

[somber frigate]

Rng dialogue moment

[fierce goblet]

How much do I have left after the coliseum with the bull and the other guy?

Am I near the end?

[somber frigate]

Pretty close

Geographically anyways

Like every other section of the game, you’ll have to learn it and then the subsequent boss fight

[sterile solar]

Theres not really a "you should beat the game within this timeframe" everyone progresses at their own pace

[harsh canyon]

oh damn, i didn’t know there was rng behind the queue for “story” elements

[sterile solar]

Well yes, there's only 1 dialogue per run, 2 in emergencies, so when there's a lot of stuff to talk about, they get queued

[somber frigate]

Some things can skip the que but otherwise it’s just random

iirc

[sterile solar]

Yeah some dialogue has priority

[dim sun]

how do i use the titan blood to upgrade my weapons?

[sterile solar]

Click on the weapon again in the yard

[dim sun]

oh wow game never told me. will do.

[dusty vault]

(you need all weapons unlocked)

[dim sun]

and how do i know how to get duo boons. dont know the synergies.

ok i dont have them all yet im focusing on 20 keys for new upgrades in stead

[dusty vault]

There's an upgrade to the codex that will list all boons of each god + their pre reqs

A lot of duos are like
One of attack/special/cast/dash/call from both gods then pray

[dim sun]

okay i will look again thanks

whats it mean to have this green banner?

oh i cant add pics. but on the boons is a green side on the diamonf

[dusty vault]

Uhhh, send somewhere else (priv server/dm) then right click > copy link

[dim sun]

all the boons have a side that is coloured

[dusty vault]

Oh green is for duos no

I assume that's what you mean

I was thinking of the actual diamond drop from the hydra lol

[dim sun]

ok but i dont know what the other duo half would be

is it the offering requirement on the boons codex next to the gods

[dusty vault]

Can you dm me the pic instead

[dim sun]

yeah i sent pic

[dim sun]

i got this boon called rare crop but it only upgraded one boon?

[dusty vault]

It depends on rare crop's rarity

Common crop only upgrades 1/rare 2/epic 3

[fresh bridge]

and there are some exceptions to the boons that rare crop can upgrade

[dim sun]

wow i just beat the game!

i had this boon that regenerated my health and i spammed the q which stacked this poison stuff. wow

16 attempts.

pretty cool! the doom helped too!

oh thanks @dusty vault !

[dusty vault]

Gaming

[dim sun]

i feel like i cheesed it though

so i missed dialogue then i guess cause i finish the game too early?

it took 65 minutes wow

[dusty vault]

Who says the game is done

[dim sun]

well im not done i want to do all the mirror upgrades

still need 20 keys for the next levels

but i fear i missed dialogue or story for finishing the game maybe too early.

i dont think youre meant to finish the game that early. i just got this boon that regenned my health is all

[dusty vault]

Nah no missed forever stuff

It will prioritize dialogue about the first win but at some point it will return other dialogues

Is like a queue

[dim sun]

okay 🙂

im back to hades haha

i mean the house area. thanks for the help

[somber frigate]

Escaping for the first time is not beating the game, you’re not even done the main story atp

[dim sun]

yes i did

whats the lore why the bosses return when you kill them

should i play with heat? or just escape normally with all the weapons first.

[dusty vault]

Well you are already in the underworld, where else would they go

[sterile solar]

The same reason you respawn when you die

So do they

Welcome to the underworld

Except lernie, who just keeps growing heads probably

[outer flint]

Up to you, but the heat will add more replayability

[sterile solar]

as well as giving you more currency you will need

[cosmic kiln]

ngl i panicked that i got instakilled when meg was defeated because of the screen 😭

asphodel stupid hard for an aegis user wtf

[somber frigate]

What

I haven’t noticed too much of a difference between the shield and other weapons in aspho

[cosmic kiln]

then again, im a new player so

loving it so far

[hybrid vessel]

I'm relatively new in hades ( 70h of gameplay basically ) — To get better at the game, should I focus on learning all weapons or should I focus on a specific weapon/aspect, even?

[somber frigate]

Yes.

I think there are some pretty solid viewpoints for each side but I’d recommend getting good with all the weapons

you don’t have to get good with all the aspects persay but I’d have at least one aspect for each weapon

[somber frigate]

Also for the purposes of this channel, experience is measured more based on “where you are in the story” because after the credits or the epilogue (your choice) you pretty much graduate from this channel to go to the other channels bc you don’t have to worry about main story spoilers atp

[burnt portal]

Hi

Love the art

[dim sun]

game is already hard heat 0. i only beat the game cause i lucked out with stubbon roots with regened my health.

and i spammed q from far away and it built up poison. forgot the actual game

dont know how ill win with sword its so hard cause you gotta get in close

[dusty vault]

Aspects can help with that

[hybrid vessel]

Ooooh I see, sorry then- but thanks anyways!

[paper obsidian]

I recently redownloaded this game cause I lost it after it got removed form gamepass, I forgot how hard it was 😭 but it's just as fun as the day i lost it

[dim sun]

Which diamonds upgrade should I get? The fishing one first or just farm for the 5 diamond upgrade first?

[dusty vault]

Which one is that

[dim sun]

Abd will there be better upgrades for the rooms? Cause I feel 25 hp is not much i was hoping there's a 50 hp option.

Well they are in order I don't remember it eas after 4 diamond upgrade.

[dusty vault]

Fishing allows you to get some extra resources

[dim sun]

Okay maybe I get that then. I am playing heat 1 I found it easy to just get 2hp per room. No difference.

And I can now upgrade my weapons should I try get anything in particular?

[dusty vault]

Tartarus = gems (small amounts)
Asphodel = keys
Elysium = nectar
Styx = gems (large amounts)
Chaos = darkness
Final boss+ = boss resources

[dim sun]

Ok I get it then

[dusty vault]

I'd say just go for what seems appealing.
If you care about power levels, there's a tier list pinned here that will tell about the power you expect from each aspect

[dim sun]

And do you know how to unlock the 4th upgrade on the weapon its locked

[dusty vault]

#h1-story-discussion pinned messages for that

[dim sun]

Ok I try to find

[dusty vault]

Another trick you can do is unlock the aspect and go into the run immediately

If you don't like it you can press give up to revert the save to before you used the blood

(just don't die/go into zag's room as that will save the purchase)

[dim sun]

Mmm doesn't work on mobile I clicked on pin message but doesn't take me there

[dusty vault]

#h1-story-discussion message

[dim sun]

Oh good idea.

Yeah I see the pinned chat about the unlocks but you cant click it on phone.

Well I think the first upgrade for each weapon is boring right? Maybe best to try the other ones.

I am doing shield now and I get one projectile after bullrush.

I see how the game will get easier! The first two bosses are easy now!

3rd one is still hard 🙁

[dusty vault]

In order I'd do like
-Keys give rerolls (gets a lot better once you can swap to boon rerolls)
-Nectar gives random pom
-Gems gives 20 gold
-darkness gives 5 max hp

Erebus gates def for last if available

[dusty vault]

#h1-for-new-players message heroes tips, theseus is a message below the linked one

I should a nicer write up of that one day

Same for final boss

[dusty vault]

Not for gold laurel rewards

There's 3 ways to get boosted rewards of those tho

[dim sun]

Oh nice I always went for the smaller guy and leave the bull till last tha ks for the tip!

[dusty vault]

Erebus gates ||are challenge rooms that need heat to enter, 5 heat in tartarus, 10 in asphodel, 15 in elysium. They are rooms that must be done hitless and the reward will be better than usual, 50 hp, 2 levels in a pom, better rarity for boons.||

The other 2 are in styx

[dim sun]

I beat a run today! My second one. It was the gun weapon. But I got this hammer that made the rpg attack be spammed 3 times in a row! Wow it was op!

[dusty vault]

Miniboss rooms are always upgraded rewards, same for the expensive items in charon's shop

[dusty vault]

Ayyy gg

[dim sun]

Oh wow never seen those yet

I try avoid rooms with the icon that shows it is hard

[dusty vault]

For styx miniboss rooms are easier generally

There's only one big enemy in a small room

[dim sun]

I am taking lots of 25hp health flinstead of other rooms.

[dusty vault]

Vs multiple hordes in massive rooms full of traps

[dusty vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png?ex=68a85d4a&is=68a70bca&hm=83a67a6df0a74b02f8c4472e9e9b7d4cea272e04613797277e79215a3542ee97& also for clarification on gold laurel

Out of curiosity up to what point are you in the mirror?

[dim sun]

By the way I ignore hermes I think those powers are not good and just get everything else I don't really know about combos yet. I like hades for doom and Athens for the dash and deflect. Is that okay to just get any good besides hermes

[dusty vault]

Oh hermes can be insane

[dim sun]

God*

[dusty vault]

He's a lot more dependant on rarity and the boons being offered tho

You generally save rerolls for him

[dim sun]

In the mirror i am up to needing 30 keys for more unlocks

I have everything max except the death defiances

But not the flip side of the mirror upgrades.

Okay I just ignored it cause it seem it about speed where I want damage

[dusty vault]

His ideal choices are
Greatest reflex (+1/2/3 dashes)
Or hyper sprint (+100% movement after dash + sturdy) into rush delivery (gain bonus dmg based on movement speed, common converts 50% of speed into dmg then 75%/100%

[dim sun]

Well then I just get any god i don't ignore them yet. I like doom though it seem broken

[dusty vault]

Speed/dodge can be dmg

[dim sun]

Oh ok interesting

I feel if I get good hammers it make the game easier

[dusty vault]

Hyper sprint + rush delivery is an insane combo for anything as it is what we call a "global buff"

[dim sun]

But if it all rubbish boons its bit hard

I also like the god that give critical hit that's cool

[dusty vault]

For example if you have zeus attack then get a chaos attack% buff, that only works on your weapon attack, not the lightning bolt

Rush delivery increases both

(all global buffs are worded like "you deal more dmg" or "enemy takes more dmg")

[dim sun]

I don't know hyper sprint and rush delivery by memory yet

I try avoid chaos a bit it steals health

[dusty vault]

Some weapons are more hammer dependant than others

[dusty vault]

They can be really good

An epic hp boon is like +80 hp

Spoiler that

Or move to the other chat

[dim sun]

How do you get more rarity i never got epic in chaos

Ok

[dusty vault]

||anyways is the pots, they break on hit by you or hades||

[dusty vault]

From the mirror in the 30 keys section there's an upgrade so every boon gets +20% chance at being epics

[dim sun]

I can behind rock in one attack so easy when you learn it

Oh nice!

Will i get more damage too to all weapons

Even adding heat 20% damage to enemies seems a lot when you only gwt 25hp for those rooms

[dusty vault]

Outside of that you can use yarn of ariadne (charon well) that makes minimum rarity rare + extra chance for epic
Or refreshing nectar from Eurydice

[dusty vault]

You already unlocked all dmg skills from the mirror

[dim sun]

Okay rhe only one was 5% per god

[dusty vault]

Yeah there's only 3 global dmg buffs in the mirror

[dim sun]

I cant believe I beat the game and only have 7 achievement haha

[dusty vault]

High confidence (+25% if over 80% hp)
Privileged status (+40% if enemy has 2 curses)
Family favorite (+5% per god)

[dim sun]

Thanks for help. I am trying to get all the keepsake 3 star. And get all the materials for the weapons on hades 1 (as its fresh start - any boss will give the premium loot)

Heat 1

[dusty vault]

Other bonuses are shadow/fiery presence (+50% attack/special on backstabs/+75% to undamaged enemies) and boiling blood (+50% attack/special if enemy has a cast stuck)

[dim sun]

I don't fam favourite

Do

[dusty vault]

That's the better one usually

Oh

Are you using olympian favor or dark foresight?

[dim sun]

Whats that one again

I am using what the pinned message said

[dusty vault]

+rare boons chance/+20% to gold laurel rooms

Should be your last unlocked skill atm?

[dim sun]

I don't do the curse one I don't know how to apply curses yet. I follow the pin guide. But maybe I put first attack as 75% again. But that's not good for boss fight so maybe not. But then again maybe the game go quicker mmm. It still go too long

No I didn't do the rare . I did the other one

[dusty vault]

Alright good

That's one of the best skills in the game lol

[dim sun]

Its 12% more poms abd that. I need 150 gem for next upgrade.

Goodnight thanks for help

[dusty vault]

Like with this guide
Normally imagine a 50:50 ratio between blue/gold laurels
Maxed out dark foresight swaps it to 70:30 in gold's favor

Gn!

[dim sun]

Look forward to playing again i just wish I can clear the game a bit faster maybe one day

What is laurels

[dusty vault]

The rooms have a laurel to indicate the type of reward

[dim sun]

Laurel is a name?

[dusty vault]

Blue = darkness/gems/keys/nectar
Gold = in run stuff like boons/poms/etc

[dim sun]

Oh the door symbols

[dusty vault]

Is those wings you can see on the doors

[dim sun]

Okay I just call them icons.

The hammers are good. I guess its from 15%. Night. I try kill bull first that will help. Last boss still bit hit and miss. Also in style I just do required rooms not all five.

Style is autocorrect for.. styx

[dusty vault]

Yeah that's the better choice usually

[pine abyss]

I feel like "hammer-dependent" is a bit unfair, none of them really NEED hammers to be strong if you play them well.

...though I will say the bow and the gun definitely are extremely high up on the "getting good hammers will make you SO much stronger" thing. The spear a bit too. The fists tend to feel like they get the least benefit from hammers overall.

Maybe I don't need spoiler all that lol

unspoilered

[sudden gale]

are there any cheeses to that goddamn bull?

in the 3rd area

[atomic prairie]

Dodge into his attacks, you’ll just go through him and take no damage then u can just backstab him

[dusty vault]

Nah the difference of stuff like shield/sword rolling their one good hammer is also insane

You called spear/fist correctly

Bow does want its good hammers but is built differently in the way it has multiple ones

Rail depends on the aspect I'd say

Every aspect loves cluster rockets but eris can chill without it

[somber frigate]

Bow is hammer dependent in the fact that it’s hammers literally 2-3x your damage output and 6/12 bow hammers are that strong

so you want your hammers a lot

But you’re not fiending for a specific one or two like sword / spear

[rain pelican]

words cannot describe how much i hate theseus

@somber frigate does pierced butterfly cap??

it's not working anymore in styx

[somber frigate]

It only counts the final chamber of each tunnel

Not the mini-rooms

[rain pelican]

wtf

that's so ass

[somber frigate]

same with plume

[rain pelican]

i kept it specifically cuz i thought it's free damage

i threw the run

[somber frigate]

Everything other than plume and pierced butterfly count the minirooms as chambers and encounters

[rain pelican]

at least tell me does "attack inflict hangover" count for my spear's dash attack..

[rain pelican]

[somber frigate]

All strike boons apply to dash-strikes

And so do 90% of strike hammers

[rain pelican]

can never be too sure ig

oof but is this worth giving away deadly strike

[somber frigate]

uhhh

[rain pelican]

i have the triple dash attack so that's potentially a few crits yeah

[somber frigate]

Which aspect is this

[rain pelican]

uh

whatever punishing sweep is

[austere otter]

Hades I think

[rain pelican]

true

crits would be better than an epic drunken strike right

like my dps is pretty decent..

[somber frigate]

deadly strike is probably the play unless you have a massive amount of poms on deadly strike and if you have a high amount of poms on deadly strike that’s a bit questionable

*given you have the additive to back up the strike

[rain pelican]

erm i don't fully understand

but I'll keep the crits then

[dusty vault]

Did you typo the attack

[somber frigate]

no

[rain pelican]

so keep artemis

[somber frigate]

If you’re going to exchange deadly strike -> drunken strike it only makes sense if you already have high poms on deadly strike

[rain pelican]

uh

i have deadly strike

why would

why would it be better to give it up if it has high poms

[somber frigate]

I thought you said you were weighing the exchange

[dusty vault]

Deadly strike pom scaling stinky

Drunken strike pom scaling gud

[rain pelican]

well yes but i moreso looking at the crit chance

15% for my triple jab seems good

[somber frigate]

It is

[rain pelican]

there's also another thing the global crit which should be an extra 4%

[somber frigate]

I’m just saying the exchange only makes sense if you have the poms to make hangover worth it since hangover works so much better with more poms

[rain pelican]

it's an epic hangover if that changes much

[somber frigate]

Not too much

just keep deadly

[rain pelican]

and styx has 4 poms (insane shop)

[pine abyss]

Because you keep the poms on an exchange along with the rarity going up, and as mentioned the scaling's better on the drunken strike

[rain pelican]

i already left it 😔

[rain pelican]

wait

WHY ARE YOU IN MARTIN'S SERVER

[outer flint]

wait

wait a minute

[rain pelican]

this is like the most random encounter EVER

LMAOOOO

[outer flint]

no way lmao

I'm an og

[rain pelican]

HOW

[outer flint]

idek man

martin is a new gen, im an og

[rain pelican]

whatttt

what are the odds dude oh my god

[outer flint]

crazy work

[rain pelican]

this is some lotm type plot development

[outer flint]

[rain pelican]

he's asking are you valor

[outer flint]

uh

no

[rain pelican]

whom then

[outer flint]

uh

I don't think martin acutally knows my real name

[rain pelican]

[outer flint]

He's a year younger than me

[rain pelican]

interesting

[outer flint]

i thought about it

there's like 20 ppl in that server

kinda crazy odds

[rain pelican]

i think our lives are seeded

who's speedrunning rn 😭😭

[rain pelican]

what does boneless hestia even mean btw

wait

i misread

[outer flint]

uh

boonless as in no boons

and hestia as in Aspect of Hestia for the rail

I basically only play boonless

[rain pelican]

yeah i mistread as boneless...

[rain pelican]

are you a masochist or just that bored 😭

[outer flint]

uh

it's fun?

idk how to descirbe it

it makes it easier for me to focus on my mechanics instead of build crafting

I do play with normal builds but there's something about boonless that I just like

[rain pelican]

so you advocate for raw skill rather than builds 🥀

[outer flint]

maybe?

Build crafting is a skill

[rain pelican]

no i meant

[outer flint]

but I'm usually lacking in mechanical skill when I focus on it too much

[rain pelican]

just skill gameplay yk

[outer flint]

yeah i knew what you meant

[rain pelican]

varatha my beloved

dusa my beloved too

[rain pelican]

mrrr i wonder which is better

piercing fire or explosive fire

screw it I'm taking explosive 😔

[spare field]

question, if i haven't claimed the base rewards of a weapon and i turn on heat, do i receive the reward of both at the same time

[dusty vault]

No

In order
-you need to claim all bounties for 1 heat for the next heat bounties
-if going higher than necessary the game will give bounties from lowest heat
-0 heat can be skipped as an exception to the previous rules

So if you don't claim everything from heat 0 but start using heat the game will give rewards from heat 1

(and if you do this until you get all heat rewards the game will mention you are still missing 0 heat)

[spare field]

got it

thanks for the explanation

[half wedge]

Guys guys I just defeated Meg

[twilit fable]

absolutely powerful dude

[half wedge]

But I died on the asphodal

[twilit fable]

it's ok, one milestone at a time bro

[half wedge]

Thanks bro I’m so proud of myself learning the gap

Also I like the spear weapon I don’t know what it’s called

[twilit fable]

Varatha I think

[half wedge]

Yeah that one

[somber frigate]

Tbh just call them what they are when you’re talking about builds

Sword / spear / shield, etc

but yeah it’s Varatha for spear

[somber frigate]

Hestia but you remove the bones

[austere otter]

[austere otter]

asphodel scary ngl, the terrain damage gets super annoying and sometimes enemies just. decide to plot themselves in the middle of the lava

[meager charm]

Yo I got alot done during that stream

Relatively tho

I feel like I havent gotten all that far

I got to the hydra at the farthest

And I really like the keepsakes and lore features

[rain pelican]

don't eat hestia 😔

[rain pelican]

had this happen in the witch boss room thing
literally couldn't reach most of them

[spare field]

is greater call worth it for demeter?

[austere otter]

It’s so unfortunate that’s why with close range stuff I try to get more creative with it even tho I just want to shield bash Poseidon boon

[rain pelican]

i had a tidal dash run with hermes giving me a plus 3 dash

with the slamming people into barriers thing doing 210 damage i just run into people and they melt 😭

[austere otter]

Lfggggg

It’s so good for later game it’s just so bad when you’re in Asphodel cause they’ll just fly into the damn abyss

[dim sun]

trying to up the heat to get the premium loot for all bosses but the ticks wont go away any ideas/

in the past the ticks go away to show i can unlock all premium loot

when i start a heat level i never did before

maybe you have to get all the loot before you can start again on the next heat level?

[grave prawn]

yes, first you have to get every reward for heat 1, then heat 2, then heat 3 and so on
if you increase the heat past whatever you're currently on, it will stay on it

[dim sun]

ok that sucks because now i only get half the rewards, because i need to kill boss 3 and 4

so its a hindrence to die then.. because then you have to play it all over for a remaining premiun loot or two

[sterile solar]

Dying is just part of the process

Having to do stuff again comes with the genre

[half wedge]

For the first time dying in a game doesn’t feel bad

[dim sun]

im not getting nectar anymore... is it because of dark foresight

[dusty vault]

Yeah, nectar in general is rare already

That said you can trade gems into keys into nectar

And the one dio boon

[dim sun]

then how i max the relationships. wow

ok i didnt unlock that yet. even keys a bit rare

[sterile solar]

nectar is the rarest of the 3 meta currencies, on top of that, yes dark foresight reduces the chances of meta currencies rooms

[dim sun]

okay so maybe it isnt good then to use that

[sterile solar]

nah it is good

[dim sun]

the pin guide said use dark foresight

[sterile solar]

dark foresight is better for the actual game, relationships dont help you

[dusty vault]

Farming resources through doors take forever

[sterile solar]

^

[dusty vault]

Buy them whenever you can at charon

[dim sun]

but i need those resources ha

because i read after 10 wins the game needs relationships to continue.

[dusty vault]

Or use fishing/vanquisher's keeps for more resources you can trade

[dim sun]

i dont get the fishing keeps saying too early

[dusty vault]

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish

Fishing guide upon you

[dim sun]

the thing sinks so not sure

[dusty vault]

Need to wait till it flashes

[sterile solar]

thats just the prologue, do you value the story over the actual gameplay? cause youre giving up run power

[dusty vault]

Also while post credits does want you to go for relationships, there's no need to rush

[sterile solar]

^

[dusty vault]

You'll get there when you get there

[dim sun]

i got this amborisa stuff but i didnt find use for it yet

[sterile solar]

youre trying to rush the game

stuff will come your way

whatever you havent found use for, will come sooner or later

[dim sun]

well i still just play and pick any olympian. i sort of know what each gods theme is but i dont know how to force duos or anything yet.

i dont look for anything in particular. besides stubborn roots i learned so far.

[sterile solar]

neither do i xd

[dim sun]

yeah too many synergies.. but that table wants them all so maybe one day i have to farm to get certain duos

[sterile solar]

one step at a time

[dusty vault]

A lot of duos you will eventually get by just playing

Maybe the cast duos

[dim sun]

yeah but you can only have 5 gods in a run

[sterile solar]

4

technically

[dusty vault]

Hermes doesn't count for the pool, he's different

[dim sun]

but i thought i get 25% damge from the mirror for each olympia

[sterile solar]

right

yes, thats where the technically came from, youre not wrong

[dusty vault]

Hermes is an olympian but doesn't count on the pool

[sterile solar]

think of hermes as a hammer

[dim sun]

so when there is two olympian doors, i still dont really know whats best door to pick.

[sterile solar]

hermes doesnt have any duos for example

hes a special one

[dim sun]

is hermes the fast one. the yellow one, friend with charon

[sterile solar]

yes

[dim sun]

okay i dont pick that one ever cause it have no synergies

and i dont like poseidon cause it just give resources, doesnt really help with damage

[dusty vault]

The basics of builds is
Fast, weak hits = go for stuff like zeus or dio that add a special effect to each attack
For higher base dmg and slower go for gods like Aphrodite or Artemis which provide a percentage boost to your attacks

[sterile solar]

missing out, hes got powerful stuff

[sterile solar]

poseidon has more than just resources

[dim sun]

only has like 10 coin per room and study

[dusty vault]

Have you clicked poseidon dash yet

Hermes gets better with rerolls

His good stuff are insane

[sterile solar]

i think youre generalising too fast and writing off powerful stuff

[dusty vault]

The other stuff is mostly ok

[sterile solar]

each god has more than the 3 boons offered

[dim sun]

because you only pick 4 gods a run so if i pick hermes maybe i miss chance of duos

[sterile solar]

just cause you saw hermes give you 3 mid ones in one run doesnt mean hes bad

[dusty vault]

Hermes doesn't count for that limit

[sterile solar]

thats why i said hermes is special, hes not part of those 4

[dusty vault]

In fact is better you take him

[sterile solar]

youre not missing on anything by taking hermes

[dusty vault]

Cuz he's prioritized to keep showing up

[sterile solar]

think of hermes like a hammer

[dusty vault]

So if you keep skipping him he will keep annoying you (same works with hammers)

[dim sun]

ooh ok.

[sterile solar]

you can only have 2 hermes boons, just like hammers, 3 in styx, just like hammer

hermes is just a hammer that talk to you

[dim sun]

in styx theres that blood for 1200. thats crazy haha

how it even possible to get that.

[sterile solar]

money

you farm

[dusty vault]

Other limits
2nd hermes can only show up from asphodel (or last tartarus shop with some shenanigans)
2nd hammer only shows up from Elysium

[dim sun]

maybe you have to sell all our boons

[dusty vault]

Sell duos

[sterile solar]

or use that one gold interest mirror thing, really easy

[dusty vault]

Eventually you'll just get some random duo that doesn't help, free 410 coins

[dim sun]

do you mean the 5% money

[sterile solar]

yeh

whatever it is, i forgot

[dusty vault]

Same for that random epic boon you found

[dim sun]

ok the pin said not to use that

[dusty vault]

Those sell for like 100+

If you only care about getting the last item at charon you def can golden touch

[dim sun]

well the weapon upgrades have made the game easier so far.

[sterile solar]

thats cause the blood doesnt give you any actual power for that run

[dusty vault]

But like, ehhhh

[sterile solar]

theres a difference between playing your run, and playing the long game

and yes, you should pretty much always play your run

[dusty vault]

I don't think is that hard to get 1200 with the 100 coins skill

[sterile solar]

i never like the idea of sacrificing run power for meta currency

[sterile solar]

is not

[dusty vault]

Hell you can prob force exclusive access and sell the million purple boons

[dim sun]

today i stole charon purse wow hahaa it easter egg? haha

[dusty vault]

Have fun

[sterile solar]

i wouldnt call it an easter egg

[dusty vault]

This is also a way to afford the last item 🙂

[dim sun]

i lost couldnt escape the purple cloud that trap you in middle of it

[dusty vault]

||if you can survive||

[sterile solar]

yes

[dim sun]

sad the blood and diamond i need locked behind having to make the game harder. shucks

[sterile solar]

you can always just buy thme in the final shop if its that big of a deal

[dim sun]

i onlky buy keys with the gems

[dusty vault]

There are a lot of pacts that aren't that bad/take minimum adjustment

[dim sun]

the other stuff too premium to trade

yeah i just been doing the health one.

[dusty vault]

Do you have the boss one unlocked

Bosses get new moves

[dim sun]

i only did health one

[sterile solar]

also those resources are mostly to trade for the difficulty up, base game gets really easy quick

[dusty vault]

If you have it I'd do the first 2 levels

[dim sun]

trying to get all 4 boss loot for each weapon and then i do the next heat.

but dying on hades i feel its waste of time to play it all over again for one blood..

[dusty vault]

The changes aren't awful and this means the rest of the run is still the same

[sterile solar]

welcome to roguelikes

gotta make your peace with dying

[dim sun]

i dont know, maybe with 3 revives one day itll be better

and maybe just god like in last fight to not waste an hour

[dusty vault]

You can prob reset mirror to get the 3dds and then decide what other skills do you need atm

[dim sun]

i think i might put high confidence on mirror

[dusty vault]

Someone's confident

[dim sun]

the first region easy

and i can kill snake easy too now

[dusty vault]

But also I'd say only use that for speedruns?

[dim sun]

the other 2 are hard

[sterile solar]

game gets easy, just dont force rush it

[dim sun]

the armorguys that dash with spear and shield still the hardest in the game..

[dusty vault]

There's not much value of that otherwise

+50 hp comfy

[sterile solar]

yeah

i prefer the hp too

[dim sun]

im watching heat 64 run

what potion do you get on eurydce?

[dusty vault]

Bottom one usually

Guarantees minimum rare rarity, boosts epic/legendary/duo chances

[dim sun]

ok. because by the time i go there i have lots of boons so the one that upgrade the rarity very weak

[dusty vault]

Good for hermes/chaos/duo hunting

[dim sun]

oh ok

wonder if there is % table

[dusty vault]

The other two have their take but is usually when you start restricting your options through the pact

[dusty vault]

Duos is 12%, 10% on minibosses (legendaries share it) (or 22%/20% with god's legacy)
Epics are 5% (25% with god's pride)
Hermes is 3% epic, 1% legendary

[dim sun]

wow

heroic only replaces my boons i realise

[dusty vault]

Yarn of ariadne/refreshing nectar boost by like +25% to epics iirc? And +10% to duos/legendaries

[sterile solar]

wait yarn increases chances for duos?

[dusty vault]

Yeah heroics are not common (lol)

Yeah

[dim sun]

when it say doom damge 100. it do 100 damage?

[dusty vault]

So does chaos's favor boon

[sterile solar]

you can never normally be offered a heroic

only a trade/eurydice

[dusty vault]

There's 3 ways for heroics
Core swap from epic to heroic
Eurydice ambrosia delight
Demeter's rare crop

[sterile solar]

i forgor about demeter

[dusty vault]

From these 3 only eurydice can get you heroic hermes

[dim sun]

whats rare crop. the one that upgrade boons?

[dusty vault]

So does everyone

[sterile solar]

yes

[dusty vault]

Yeah

[dim sun]

shame its random boon that upgraded

[dusty vault]

Downgrade to common then every 3 encounters up by 1

[sterile solar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dusty vault]

Yeah is not that good of a boon lol

[dim sun]

i try get demter all the time cause stubbon roots

but the rest is trash

[sterile solar]

hell of a glow up on h2 tho

stubborn roots is omega trash

[dusty vault]

Ideal case is like, common core start into immediate rare crop

[sterile solar]

one of the worst boons in the game lmao

[dim sun]

no shot you hide behind pillar in hades and easy win

[sterile solar]

nah bro thats bait

waste of a boon

sell it, buy the blood xd

[dim sun]

it got me my first win at run 13 😄

im run 22 now i think

and the dialogue still new

[dusty vault]

You will be saying that 500 runs in lol

[sterile solar]

bro youre brand new lmao, youll be in like run 200 and still be getting dialogue lmao

yeah xD

[dim sun]

hope not cant play forever haha

[sterile solar]

why not, you dying next week or smth?

[dim sun]

hades 2 one day and maybe other games like bastion. not sure yet.

[dusty vault]

There's meg dialogue for killing her 500 times iirc

[sterile solar]

something like that

hypnos also comments after so many runs

[dim sun]

do you know how to get the 4th upgrade in the weapons

[dusty vault]

Didn't I link you to the message the other day

[dim sun]

oh yeah. i dont think anything happen in my game yet.

maybe it come later after few more runs

[dusty vault]

If you are checking the guide keep in mind you need to reveal the spear's 4th aspect first

[austere otter]

Yeah, some of it is dialogue dependent! Just check in with everyone after a run

[sterile solar]

like i said, most of the stuff will come to you by just playing, 22 runs in, you literally just installed

[dim sun]

nah 23.4 hours in

beat game 6 times now i think

[sterile solar]

thats brand new lmao

[dim sun]

goodnight!

[sterile solar]

nite

[dim sun]

2:20am ha

[sterile solar]

may hypnos bless you

[fresh bridge]

i will indeed bless this person😌

[sterile solar]

[rain pelican]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1263674828754259969/1408546233496113293/IMG_20250823_001926373.jpg?ex=68aa2267&is=68a8d0e7&hm=78cc59d1bfdb12774c33f4349668ca1844d80439c3476499d9cb407fc3f12ad4&
what the freak happened that time

[sterile solar]

You got clapped in tartarus

[outer flint]

An hour and 45 minutes in Tartarus?

[rain pelican]

nah dude that's One Minute Forty Four Seconds

[outer flint]

Oh okay

[sterile solar]

no but like how are we supposed to know what happened from that screenshot

[outer flint]

My guess is the game froze and they took a bunch of damage during that time

[dim sun]

what is considered late game? the red A is better than the normal A?

in the level guide for the weapons. it is pinned

[somber frigate]

It’s more of a measure of how much blood you have

[dim sun]

so red is not better? ok

[somber frigate]

The tiering system doesn’t really truly show the value of levels too well

It’s still a power boost but it doesn’t go past S tier

[dim sun]

yes s the best

[somber frigate]

right, but since they don’t go past S tier

it doesn’t do a great job of encapsulating how the aspects still improve

[mortal mortar]

ive just gotten into the game and havent beaten [REDACTED] yet, but ive reached him twice, once with bow and the other time with rail. should i be rushing titans blood with trades? i spent all my initial titans blood trying the second aspect of every weapon

[austere otter]

It’s not essential to get the titan’s blood, but if you hit a wall with the final boss then I would look into trading for blood. I needed that when I was a new player but its possible to beat endgame with just about any build

[spare field]

erm so i skipped a lot of dialogue and now im thinking about restarting

should i?

did 45 runs so far in my current save

i think i didnt skip the important bits but i totally skipped all boon, orpheus, eurydice and thanotos dialogues

i dont know why orpheus and eurydice are seperated and why thanotos comes and challenges me every now and then

[rain pelican]

because it says 1:44.03
if it was hours it'd say 1:44:03.XX

as for what happened, nothing i just found it funny

[dim sun]

is it okay to use the nectar for 500 gems

i mean the upgraded nectar

why doesnt the infernal arms pic include the 4th upgrade in it?

[grave prawn]

it's called ambrosia and yeah it's a good deal

[dim sun]

ok. its just that i didnt find use for ambrosia yet

i can also buy blood with it

[grave prawn]

do keep some ambrosia, you'll suddenly need a good amount of it later

[dim sun]

i have 7

[rain pelican]

bruh i literally just exchanged all

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1116555735032152084.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[dusty vault]

How much did you trade

[outer flint]

Bro traded 7 ambrosia

[rain pelican]

ahaha... yeahhh about that-

i traded i believe 15..

[outer flint]

Bruh

Like

Bruh

[rain pelican]

IT HAD NO OTHER USE

[outer flint]

IT DOES

[rain pelican]

HAD

[outer flint]

It's very important

[rain pelican]

PAST TENSE

[outer flint]

Ts pmo

[rain pelican]

and still doesn't have actually

HOW COULD I KNOW.

[outer flint]

It does have a use

It's very important

[rain pelican]

YET.

[outer flint]

Give characters more nectar

[rain pelican]

I'm giving them to Than

[outer flint]

Give it to everyone, the dialogue is rng based so your better off going for multiple at the same time

[rain pelican]

awh..

[outer flint]

I'm still trying to get than💔 🥀

[rain pelican]

he seems to chill at the house more at this time

running into him every other run

killing skelly sometimes drops nectar or something..

but it's fine I'll no longer trade ambrosia

i got all aspects

[dusty vault]

Ehhhh it should be fine

There's spare ambrosia over the max needed iirc? (Assuming all non renewable sources)

[rain pelican]

are we sure bounties and renewable

dawg

I said is the game gonna force me to have 67 heat eventually or crap

[dusty vault]

Bounties cap at 20

Also this includes prophecies

And there's always trading/fishing

[rain pelican]

i mean

you need what 20 nectar for an ambrosia

mad expensive..

[dusty vault]

According to wiki you have like 50 spare ambrosia before having to trade/fish for it

Or a bit more due to some cosmetic purchases

[rain pelican]

what the freak do i need ambrosia for..

[dusty vault]

Is like nectar+ basically

[rain pelican]

oh.

[dusty vault]

It finishes up each character relationship

Is also related to the big locks in the keepsake cabinet

[rain pelican]

guessed so..

say

I'm missing One KeepSake

could that be from hades

[dusty vault]

Gotta hit credits for that one

[rain pelican]

what's

[rain pelican]

yeah i meant what's that

[dusty vault]

The Ending

[rain pelican]

oh i thought characters have credit quotas or something-

to be fair i haven't seen any credits so Makes Sense

we push on

[outer flint]

Beat 10 runs on any heat for the credits to roll

It's not the end, but it's a good milestone

[rain pelican]

ohh i see

that's p easy

[honest hazel]

Hello

[median sphinx]

sup

[honest hazel]

Heyo

I'm really new, so like, how do I beat first boss