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are they useful after unlocking all of the mirror upgrades?
like
you maybe need like 25 for work orders
Oh way down the line you need 200 for one of the themes
But that’s probably a ways away
Otherwise feel free to just trade up your resources to get the other ones you need
Particularly if you have the fishing rod and Vanquishers Keep work order (bosses drop gemstones)
yeah the gemstones to key trade
It sounds like the only thing you need keys for atp is cosmetics
Been pinged there, huh?? 🤔
Yo! so I've had hades for about a year but only have 45 hours on the game so I guess I'd consider myself a new player? Anyways I've been doing the aspect of achilles spear and I almost beat hades (I mean I was giving him belt to ass 2 hits left) and the man ended up killing me with the lasers so uh..yeah
I was wondering if you guys have any advice going forward on how I should structure my builds.
I went Crystal beam (level 7)
Hunter dash
Glacial glare
crystal clarity
extending jab
Serrated point
and a few more boons I picked up
Hunting Blades Duo boon (Ares cast supercharged) >> Crystal Beam regardless of how much you buff Crystal Beam
This seems like a competently put together build, even if meme beams just sucks compared to other builds. What really might clinch your build though might be the things you haven’t told us;
A) your mirror
B) how you use your keepsakes
also I’m wondering if you just didn’t have a strike or special core here, or didn’t feel the need to mention them
Ah I see..as a duo boon i'd assume it'd be harder to get right?
No harder than Crystal Clarity from your build, which is another duo boon
I haven't fully unlocked my mirror yet but i'll let you know what I have. I usually decide to use a lucky tooth but then decided I should use the artemis boon after further research
No harder than Crystal Clarity which might as well be mandatory for meme beams builds
For strike btw I had Heartbreak strike
I don't think I had a boom for special I just used dash attacks and casts the entire time
How about Call, if any?
Zeus
Almost always a good one to take. Very good, spammable damage (via lesser Call alongside Static Discharge)
So for my mirror I have
Shadow presence
Dark regeneration
Death defiance
greater reflex
Boiling blood (might switch to Abyssal depending on what cast I use)
Infernal soul
Golden touch
Thick skin
Dark regen and golden touch are both pretty 
I’d swap them asap
gotcha
Dark regen gives you hp when you need it the least, cuz there’s always a fountain immediately following boss fights, and the consistency of cthonic regen (especially in the styx tunnels) is just way better
and obols now is much better than obols later
gives you lots of build control
plus you should be spending your obols as you get them
The real use case for golden touch is if you’re shooting for the styx titan blood/diamond
You also need an insane amount of obols stored up for golden touch to add up higher than deep pockets in the first place I believe
Yeah that makes sense i've seen a couple diamonds on the surface
I feel like while i'm out there i need to grind for chthonic keys
Gotta upgrade my mirror
Okay used gauntlets on a serious run through
Love em but the possums on the surface thay shake their poison off of them..I can't get near them to kill them without touching the acid
you can just stunlock them
things to never take again: chaos deal that damage you on basic atack early game when you dont do damage in other ways
if you're not speedrunning it's free though
just play patiently
have like 25 hours in, furthest i reached so far was theseus, so not speedrunning 😄
If you aren’t on a time limit these are some of the most free
Play carefully with your casts and specials
plus some weapons like zeus shield predominantly use their special
But I can’t justify taking it ever aside from zeus shield when I’ve only got 5 minutes for tartarus yk
It can be of good use with "Zeus's shield" and spears
even then the attack is a core part of the damage rotation so it kinda sucks
How does Demeter's boon which increases rarity of your booms every 3 encounters actually work. Like what does it actually do, what does increasing the rarity actually mean and how does it benefit the player. Does it just increase the damage or the time of their effects for each rarity?
Rarities increase the same thing poms do
Ok
So if it hits your attack, it increases the damage of your attack
Rarity is the base dmg basically
Fine
Poms fall off the more you use them on the same boon
Stuff like ares or Aphrodite attack really want rarity
Most stuff you don't really care
But if they're rarer and still like level one, it Will take more upgrades for the levelling up to plateau?
Poms are always the same no matter the rarity
First pom on aphro attack is always +20% for example
And this boon is one that actually cares about rarity
Common is +50%~ and epic goes +90%-100%
Oh damn
Hermes also cares a lot about rarity
but rare crop can't target him
He also has a lower chance for epic boons than others
These are some graphs for how different boons scale with rarity and by how many poms they have
The actual impact of rarity really varies based on the boon
and so does pomming
some boons have really good pom scaling, others have really good rarity scaling, some have both, some have none
wait, you can change keepsake mid run? wow
It’s something you unlock so you didn’t have it when you started
for Hermes' boon that makes your attack 10% faster, and if you have the bow does that mean it takes 10% less time to charge up, or that the arrow is 10% faster in the air
The former
Which means if you get an epic swift strike, your standing strikes will be as almost as fast as your dash strikes
it’s never really worth it to take swift strike on bow, since dash striking is right there, and you’re better of with like Hyper Sprint -> RD
**however, when you have flurry shot then that changes things a little bit
Oh it only affects standing strike and not the desk strike?
Yeah (for every weapon)
I see
There are plenty of other far better Hermes boons for any given build anyways
yeah i get that now
Although
any weapon that can get a flurry hammer
can typically make use out of swift strike
because flurry interacts weirdly with dash strikes / attacks fast enough in between dash cooldowns depending on the weapon
also, if you really wanted to use heavy knuckle on fists or world splitter on sword and happened across it
it’d be great
the hidden aspect of sword can make great use of it
There are cases where you can take swift strike and it’s actually beneficial
Rarity improves the base stat
Hey when am I able to gift someone ambrosia
I’ve given Dusa nectar to the point the next heart has that lock symbol over it which is when I assumed I could give her an ambrosia
But I couldn’t do now I’m confused
keep talking to her
Ok
the option will appear after a special dialogue triggers
Gotcha
the lock means you cant gift anything until you do something with them that unlocks it
can i get more than 2 chaos gates?
had one on start of first area, second middle in shop, and now see third in shop too, all in tartaros
yes
Wdym you got a gate in midshop
But yeah multiple gates are a thing, normally there's a cooldown between gates but light of ixion overrides that
When i became good?
After 40 hours im still hard walled at theseus. Idk if scrap save and try new to get titan blood again and try other aspects
don't, keep pushing
You might have build issues
What aspect
What's your mirror?
Can anyone explain how Satyr sack chances work?
Does every chamber have an equal 20% chance of containing one or is it that you can't get one on your first chamber but every subsequent chamber you go in has increased odds?
Normally I get it on my 3rd chamber
It doesn’t depend on which tunnel you go down at all
you cannot get it on your first chamber
So after chamber 1 is it a 25% chance for each chamber
Then it’s like 52% for second chamber, 34% for third chamber, 12% for fourth, 2% for fifth
Nah
Ok
see above
So the game decides which chamber has the sack before you enter any
Based off of that
no
it decides right as you enter the last room of each tunnel
it will never generate the sack in the first tunnel
afterwards, your chances are like this
yeah
also I got this nectar thing and I decided to give the first one to my bro Charon
couldn't find Dionysus to give the other one to
and I got this hourglass thing
It decides how many tunnels you’ll have to go down before you find it
Not which tunnel it’s in
Which is why the usual strat it to take the 2 miniboss rooms first, because the game heavily favours the second and third tunnels, it means you’ll likely never have to deal with a regular tunnels end room
cant relly post images here
send to a dm/another server then right click and copy link
Mirror looks good
What weapon/aspect are you using
now im going with Nemesis sword ,some artemis/athena/aphrodite mix
no idea if i should prioritize boons, hammers, fruits or max life yet. Taking all chaos i find so far
Yeah those boons sound good
not getting more than 5 titan blood i got early invested 1 in nemesis, 4 in chiron and traded 1 for 200 jewels
Starting tidal dash and looking for hangover/doom/zeus on attack is also viable
god i hate those bullet hell armored witches coven in fire area
Yeah, take Athena on something if that’s an issue
Real
woohoo theseus down
railgun with triple mortar op (+ aphrodite)
oh no not the|| cerberus|| 😦
whew
hey guys! i hope you're all doing well ^-^
i have a save file on my switch that i wish to sync to my steam so i can continue playing on my pc. even though i've linked steam to hades on my switch, it doesnt seem to be loading up that save on my pc? help please? ;-;
Who should I spam my nectar to
give one to every npc to get their keepsake
after that, whoever you like 👍
Interesting, thank u
Trading ambrosia for titan blood worth it?
almost killed ||hades|| on this attempt, maybe i learn him soon
I think so, because ambrosia is only useful after you've forged a bond right
Yeah early game ambrosia is fine to trade some for blood
- there's excess of it compared to blood
Just don't go too far with it
after meeting ||demeter|| for first time it seems there are new enemies spawning
||those are both connected to reaching dad||
spoiler mark the boss name
One to each olympian god -> one to every other npc -> whoever you like
How do you unlock 4th aspect for weapons?
Fated Persuasion is once per bon, or once per escape?
Once per escape
If it was once per boon it would be way too insane
There's a work order where picking up keys gives a die
oh, i can get diamond, ambrosia or titan blood every time i reach final floor, nice
Would be funny if every time you picked a key you would die, but I know what you mean lol
Still on the first boss :)))

I may be late but try hiding behind the pillars on the far side
they arent that bad as long as you murder things before they murder you
i walk in this green thing on floor and it drains like 100 life
solution: beat them up before they realize youre there
Aka tidal dash
yeah
If you end up poisoned you have to dash to one of the glowing wells and interact with it to remove the effect
Which sounds like your problem
ye its skill issue still
if you end up in one of those rooms that has two chunks od ground seperated by a gap feel free to just camp them out like
You can dash over, do a few hits and dash back out to the other side if your build needs it
if i take one duo skill (athena + poseidon) can i still get other from athena + ares? probably yes
Mostly the cast duos are what block each other
If you take hunting blades you can't get freezing vortex for example
so casts are real build archetype here?
Almost exclusively on castpects
Otherwise not really
Hello, I am pretty new to this game and I was wondering if it would be a bad idea to spend the required blood to unlock every single aspect on every single weapon at the base level and just max the ones I like. Blood isn't refundable I don't think and idk how long it would take to max all aspects, would this be a bad idea?
i think this is fine yes, cuz some of the aspects are at max power with the unlock like zeus/beowulf shield or hera bow, while other aspects really needs blood (imagine playing guan yu with -70%HP lmao)
alrighty, thank you!
Yep
Up to 20 heat (25 in hellmode)
thats like nice, finally will earn some blood
Wait wtf is hell mode
While this is encouraged, it's worth noting that some of the Zagreus aspects (which are cheapest to max) are better than others and worth investing in early. Shield and Bow come to mind, as well as Fists somewhat. Some other aspects (guan yu, chaos, chiron, demeter) can be just ok to outright stinky in their early forms, try not to form a judgement on them until you can more fully afford their upgrades where they go from ugly ducklings to swans
Eh of the zag aspects it’s more like
Bow and Rail >>> Fists and Shield >>> Spear and Sword
in terms of which you want to level
If you want a mini-guide on blood spending:
If you haven’t got nemesis zeus or hera yet, they’re all really effective with low amounts of titan blood put into them. (Nab them at level 1, you can level em up later)
and then you can use the rest on other aspects that need the levels a bit more (for their effects to really get crazy)
These aspects are achilles, eris, hestia, demeter.
By that point (or earlier) you should be able so start getting the hidden aspects, in which case ||guan-yu, rama and lucifer really want titans blood, while beowulf is stellar at level 1||
and then zag bow, zag rail, and zag fist are all solid options for your titans blood.
(Maxing nem, zeus, and hera can happen really whenever in this grand scheme)
And then any aspects I haven’t mentioned
Any aspects that weren’t named are both not nearly as strong out of the gates, and their maxed effect isn’t on nearly the same level as the ones already mentioned
Alrighty, thanks for the help!
tbf for ||rama|| you can play it with level 1 and just spam the absolute hell out of zeus special since the special doesnt get upgraded anyways
its a funny way to play and turns the aspect into a weird rail/bow hybrid
what does heart with a lock mean on a npc
like i have 6 red and 7th locked
oh i prob have to do some renovations for Dusa
That’s really fair I should recatagorise it
Honestly even at 30% the strike is still busted as heck
theres a reason why hera is so good in H2 i suppose
hitch is also 30% just like ||rama|| level 1
plus for ||rama|| you can basically hitch and attack the same enemy for bonus damage
(also i feel like zag rail isnt really worth upgrading overall ngl, eris is just so much better even when zag rail is at higher level)
(zag rail upgrades are basically only good for spread fire since 12 bullets is plenty already and you can dashcancel the reload animation)
zag rail should work decent even when unupgraded i feel, just slap on zeus attack and go to town
Tbh that’s exactly the case I had in mind mentioning it
Zag rail certainly isn’t a priority, it just falls before everything I haven’t named
It’s a decently powerful aspect outshone by the rest of the Rail’s spectacular aspects.
giving nectar to gods gives better boons?
Nope, but getting their keepsakes (from gifting them) lets you control which gods you do get, and buffs their boon rarity odds while you have them equipped
Is it worth getting Hades nowadays or should I I wait for Hades 2
Hades 1 and Hades two are completely different games
or like
The experience you have with Hades 2 will not feel the same as your experience with Hades 1, and Hades 1 is absolutely worth it
Ok makes sense thanks
have both in library from family share, once im done with 1 will try 2
Do u recommend getting Hades 1 in the first place
Yes
But £20 though
I’ve dropped too many hours into it because
I’ve bought it twice. Once at full price on my switch, and recently on sale on steam
I bought binding of Isaac for that price and I didn't even like it tbh
Maybe watch a few videos of Hades gameplay prior to purchasing the game 🤔 to see if it’s up your alley?
although I can’t really recommend many Hades youtube channels, I’ve always been more of a player than a viewer
I know Haelian is popular
Sounds like a plan
you could also just wait until it comes on sale but who knows when that’ll be🤔
What's Hades even about
Nah
You’re the son of Hades and you’re trying to escape the underworld with the help of your olympian relatives, so you battle thru the underworld again and again to reach to surface
Ahhh thanks
Whenever you die you walk back into the House of Hades to do it over again, but with different weapons and different boons
A lot of people are really sold on the story alone*, as it’s really well written with 21020 voice acted voicelines
I don’t think so? But I honestly wouldn’t know I’ve got a gaming laptop from 4 years ago that handles it fine, and my switch that’s like 7 years old handles it just fines as well
Godamn
Actually the older switch handling it is probably the better frame of reference because Switches are famously not powerful consoles
Would u recomendad playing on controller of kbm
I’m a controller diehard lol
I bought a bluetooth controller just so I could play it on my PC with one (given regular switch ones aren’t fit for it)
but I know my fairshare of kbm users
Lol
If you’re a fan of greek mythology I think you’ll really appreciate what they did with each character, if you aren’t then you’ll learn your fairshare of it (albeit modified a bit, mainly to remove all the incest present in Greek Mythos)
I assume you’re familiar with the roguelite formula if you’ve played the binding of isaac?
Ye I like rogue likes
I've played balatro aswell
K cuz I’ve seen some people like completely unfamiliar with the genre (they come here asking if there are checkpoints in the game etc)
in a very general sense, if you like speedrunning, use controller, and if you like challenge/difficulty, use kbm
they each have their benefits and drawbacks
Why theres "" in borrow from charon?
try it out
How difficult is it
most people clear between 10-50 hours i think
Does he know?
i got a gut feeling that i gonna spend couple of thousand hours here
there's a lot of opportunities to increase difficulty after your first clear
Can I ||complete the Cerberus favor requirement by petting him 20 times without leaving the house, just staying on one place||?
From my subjective experience, Hades goes from Impossibly difficult (nobody is beating it in their first few runs in the game, which is the same thing in most roguelikes)
To surprisingly not that difficult after you unlock mirror upgrades, aspects, and greater knowledge of how the game works fairly quickly.
After beating the final boss I've basically never lost a run afterwards (though, I haven't tried high heat yet)
And I don't have very many runs either
Unlucky boons and heat cauge returns the difficulty back
Yea
But skill you acquire - still make it easier than first runs.
I did, when I selected keepsakes to level them instead of getting something useful.
im sure i can defeat him if im find it in elysium, is tas mid tartaros
patterns not that hard i think
chaos shield + doom on special + 4 bounces hammer feels nice, wonder if it viable later stages
so far its wrecking asphodel, not even have to specially aim or go search enemies on fire islands
Nah, chaos shield sucks
Main reason is that you can’t block while the special is out
Might have been viable if you could still use it
how do i get Hades favor?
iirc its 10 or 20 clears
can someone help me? idk if its a skill issue atp but i cant seem to rly beat a run
but i am
what the freak
anyways i have tried like every weapon multiple times with different builds but i feel so underpowered every time i get to the last level/hades
and i have only beaten the game once but i was super lucky and had all my revives by the time i was at hades and my build was super broken
which weapon are you most comfortable with?
i use the shield alot
i think thats the weapon i like the most
ah Shield is the one I know the least, I'll let more knowledgable people help you ^^
gauntlets when I started I was running the base one
the dodge chance is quite good when you max it
its honestly just better overall tho no?
it gives u more dmg
and the magnet is just a extra hit
I think demeter is the better one
which one is that one
is that the 4th aspect?
no 2rd or 3nd
idk how u unlock those they are locked on every weapon for some reason
after 12 attack, your special gets buff
ahh
doesnt sound too good honestly
it sounds like it doesnt proc alot
#h1-story-discussion pins for that
it does, 12 attack is quick on fists
It gives more hits
no the special number of hits goes up
Lvl 5 is +5 special hits
for Demeter you can start with Zeus attack
maybe thats why i suck
why zeus?
Well the other fists don't offer aoe tbh
on the special you put a % god (aphrodite/artemis/Athena/demeter)
zeus likes fast attack
fast attack means more lightning
Fists have Low base dmg and hits fast
And yeah what alek said
doesnt that just affect other enemies tho
like it bounces off
and goes to other enemies
It huts the first enemy too
oh i never noticed
For later dmg you want the static discharge boon and focus on pomming that
i dont usually attack either tho i usually just spam the special lol
with demeter you want to mix
Even other fists prefer to use the attack
Cuz it means you are keeping the enemy stunlocked
really?
i feel like i still get hit sometimes even if im attacking
it makes me feel like im wide open
Armored enemies can't be staggered if that's the issue
Is why fist's best hammer is breaching cross
whats that one
Also the idea is to do the 5 punches from normal attacks then dash strike to keep the stagger and reset the combo
+900% dmg to armor on dash strikes
oop
Get dyno'd
dang
anyways
i dont ever rly see that one
i do usually pick the one that makes ur dash strike bigger tho
its rly good
got any tips for shield tho?
It practically just removes armour from the game
very good hammer
Unlock zeus or pray you get charged shot on base shield
oh i usually get alot of poseidon
If zag shield is leveled pulverizing blow can be fun
Have you been talking to Achilles enough/ how many aspects do you have rn
i heard charge shot was horrible
Where 
i talk to every npc every chance i get lol
uhhh i have no clue tho
You should unlock the first one pretty soon then the rest are more specific
i saw them mention it was terrible
oof
If you mean his attack, it sucks
i remember picking it aswell and i felt like it ruined my run
I love mobile data
It deals the 80 dmg regardless of charge
yeah
that makes sense
what boons should i be picking with shield then?
zeus?
cuz i usually pick poseidon for my attack
Aphro ideally
Shield doesn’t attack fast enough for zeus
oh dang
She has the highest % at epic
plus lightning on ideally the 80 base damage charged shot is like nothing
Arty works but you want % from other sources like chaos
i been picking poseidon cuz the wall dmg is usually pretty good
Zeus is good if you’re using zeus shield and you put it on the special because the special hits rlly often
and like zeus call is always good dps.
Shield already has knockback by default if you like hat
But not zeus strike for shield
i was thinking it might have made it better
lol
Can take his cast to unlock the wall slam boons, or special
i tried using that aspect it didnt feel very good
the dmg feels so low
It takes some getting used to but it’s easily the safest-
zeus shield is not low damage
Having your block available along your passive dmg source is funny
8 base damage at level 1, (gets up to 30 at level 5) but that’s why you run lightning most of the time
ah
cuz it doesn’t care about the base damage
dang 30 is actually alot
A common zeus special is also 30 dmg
it just feels so grindy getting all of the titans bloods and stuff especially since im not even winning
it certainly can be early game
especially when you’re picking the game up for the first time
i got abt 40 hrs so far
…that’s still pretty early imo
Zeus shield special base damage doesn't really matter if you take zeus special boon
And get static discharge after that
You’ll get there again
i think the one time i one was with the gauntlets
i can look and see what i had actually
oh lord idk how to ss on steam
f12 iirc
what i usually do but it closes the entire window when i window
Why would you window for snip & sketch
hotkey it
^
You’ll need to send it as the link to the image that discord will just load
Ok easy test run here
DM your image to stickybot
It won’t care
then you’re going to want to right click on the image in the discord message and look for “copy image link”
Copy, paste here
I mean you aren’t running dark foresight here so it’s more justifiable that you might not see him
Hermes boons are strong & you can only get 2 (with a 50:50 chance for a third in the styx shop) in a run
depends on the other option
why does dark foresight matter?
Dark foresight increases your gold laurel rooms and decreases blue laurels (give me a second to find the image)
what in the world is a laurel
The leaves on the doors
so if you have dark foresight on you get far more boons/poms/hammers/obols and hearts per run
making you stronger overall
Exactly
Like honestly the only questionable part of your mirror is
Can't use the rarity if you can't find boons
thats true
but then arent u gonna be getting more common boons
Is nice for hermes but also god's pride existss
These thhree
Most boons don't care
Just feed them some poms
More boons => more high rarity boons
mmmm
Or there are alternate ways like yarn of ariadne/refreshing nectar
so should i reset my mirror
Or even your god keepsake
thats true i dont always get her tho
God keepsakes, chaos boons if the other options are bad, well items, eurydice,
so i shouldnt be using gods legacy?
Mmm
Rn you’re probably hunting for prophecies so I guess it makes sense
But otherwise God’s Pride is better like 90% of cases
why would u want epics over legendarys?
Especially for the boost to Hermes and Chaos boons because they have reduced rarity odds by default
…legendaries usually suck
like
Outside of zeus's they kinda stink
There aren’t many that actively do much
that makes sense
(for what they need to get)
duos on the other hand are great, but since you can get them from 2 gods instead of one it’s way more consistent
so you don’t rlly need legacy to find em
so i should be using dark forsight aswell
*dependent on which boons you have where and which duo it is
Dark foresight, Olympian Pride (once you’re not duo/legendary hunting for prophecies), and Fated Persuasion
whats the point of there even being choices if there are mostly objectively better choices for every single one
Devs didn’t know what the meta would end up being
Pretty much everything is equally viable up to and even past 32 heat (which is usually the difficulty level most gamers put as their end goal I think)
how is that even possible
Which is the max max
Really good gamers finally getting the boons™️ and the rooms
it’s a real challenge because you have ~20 minutes to rush through 60% extra enemies with 2 free hits on em and 30% extra hp and you don’t get any choice with your boons nor access to your mirror at all
That alone is really rough to get through before you factor in everything else 🗿
~
You’d be joining like a group of 10ish ppl atm (I think?)
But while there are objectively better options for 90% of cases, most of the player base either isn’t playing at a difficulty where it’s too relevant, or straight up don’t know
or they’re r*dditors
the censor is crazy
lmao
but that makes sense
so basically the choices are just for niche builds that u mostly wont rly get unless u no life the game and try and get a ton of heat
🤔 “niche builds” not really
like
It’s only niche if you… never speak to the Hades discord
builds are a pretty regular thing that are pretty consistent to get
do u think pierced butterfly is worth using if im only getting like 20% max in a run
I don’t think it’s worth it even if you get it every room
rly?
It’s opportunity cost
being able to start tartarus and asphodel with 2 gods core to your builds means you’re going to be doing good damage
compared to butterfly where it takes 8 years to ramp up, you only get the value at the end of the run, and atp it’s on whatever build you pulled together like
like the dmg is nice but ur ending up losing damage overall cuz u could be doing different things
+30% additive damage on a build w/ no damage to start with
Keepsakes
right
Being able to force gods in is pretty valuable. Then in elysium you can take hourglass and buy well items that make it to Hades like
i feel like it would be good if u didnt have to be holding it to get it that seems like the selling point for it is the fact that u have to have it to get the dmg
with hourglass in elysium alone you can easily grab a +30% attack well item in the midbiome stairs and take it to Hades ~54% of the time
i havent even thought of that
Given your build is attack centric with something that uses additive strike damage
the chaos keepsake looks like it could be pretty good sometimes aswell
It does have some niche uses
the preventing hp loss doesn’t really matter 90% of the time
Then you’re going to need to use every weapon
bc you’ll run out of bounties to claim at 20 heat with each weapon
oh
yikes
cuz i hate using the spear
and the bow
especially the spear tho it just feels like a worse sword
Nemesis, Achilles, (Zeus & Bugowulf), (Hera, Zag bow, Rama), Demeter, and (Eris or Hestia) should be your best shot with each weapon respectively
nemesis?
321 new msgs god dadm
They’re all aspects of
Sword, Spear, Shield, Bow, Fists, Rail respectively
Spear is necessary to get the rest (and pretty solid). Then shield, bow, and rail’s are good
i didnt actually like rly look into how to get them are they rly difficult?
no, honestly you'll just get them randomly after playing enough
mm
Fist is the only one that’s “hard”
you just have to invest blood into the weapon and then wait until you get the dialogue
Nah
They’re pretty balanced, they just mainly switch up the weapons core functionality and add a twist
makes sense
they're like normal aspects except they change more. Like atk speed and pattern
Pretty much every hidden aspect is a “heavier” version of the base weapon with some added spice
should i be trying to get any specific hidden keepsake
i got skellys and it seems pretty bad
megs
i recommend you try each aspect as well and experiment with boon synergies and such.
esp hidden aspect of spear, i would leave that until you are close to max blood. won’t tell what it is.
do u mean ||companion||?
to just get a feel for things
what does that do
yes
ive never heard anyone use anything other than meg for that
Near instant big aoe burst damage
yummy
skellys just looks overall bad lol
i got it cuz i love skelly hes the goat
yikes
yeah he’s REALLY situational and just ok at best really, wouldn’t recommend.
i see we have a hater
no idea who that could be
its like maybe useful for destroying the hydra heads without taking alot of dmg lol
i do like him too but there are other great characters as well
it takes quite a bit of honey
to get one
then i dumped all my titan blood into my swords first aspect to even get it
sadly
and the barge but just use meg, she’s the best for speedrunning and in general!
the hardest part imo is trying to get the dialogue to happen
yeah true
fr

yeah
same, it works best imo
its just a random chance to get the dialogue, even if you have all the requirements
🗿
dont spoil it mr spierkroft
i won’t wander, don’t worry lol
is this SLANDER IN NEW PLAYERS CHAT
nah what is this SLANDer
yes
haha maybe
this EVIL talk
how dare you
loath
she did nothing wrong
another dusa enjoyer, let’s go
and its still dirty
do u even read what she tells u
She literally cleans
u cant expect her to clean up after cerby ruined the lounge
yuh huh
U clearly haven’t experienced Cerby on a bad day
cerberus… he’s so awesome. shame hades doesn’t like zag petting him, he’s great imo.
fr
i didnt even know u could do that
for the longest time
never tried
yea you can ;]
i do so every time to get over a bad run, just because
makes u happier
his keepsake kinda sucks tho
yeah pretty much
it’s ok when you don’t have thick skin really
why wouldnt u want thick skin
All my runs suck :(
free 50 hp
i’m saying it’s good early on when maxed
25% additive kinda nice tho
but EARLY… not anywhere else i feel
yeahhh
dont rly need the hp as much when u get better at the game
not dying to meg or in a random room
Speedrunning but u wouldn’t use collar then
dw you can do it, i believe in you. just gotta chip away at it, which i say: gl. trust me i feel you.
i’m on controller and i still am improving
i feel like i know the game more just talking in here lol
yea that’s valid
youtube kinda sucks at teaching ppl how to play this game
If you have a sub 5 minute escape I don’t think you’re allowed to say that your runs suck 🗿
So true
the reason i been using poseidon with shield is cuz a youtuber told me to lol
there are a few that are useful but not many unfortunately :/
Now if you had a sub4 on the other hand
I just got the rooms, boons, skips, build, and boss fights ™️
thing is: there’s always varied views and opinions. so it won’t be the same for everyone
thats true
i get why it isn’t always helpful
yea, totally
like how zeus is good for the gauntlets
Yeah but you have to be able to make use of those things
once you utilize it well
and you did
well… depends
wdym
depends on the WEAPON aspect, but zeus is always A for me
Beo hates Zeus
depends on the aspect is kinda wild when it’s fists
actually good point lol
fists are just… good
well as far as DPS goes and attack.
🗿
honestly though, when you get much better at the game: you begin to like most weapons.
Come on at least let me pre-amble
ok
No
most though, everyone leans towards different play styles
-# i sound so much like a nerd lmao
Bow good you just aren’t dash striking hard enough
yep dash striking is mad fun with the bow imo
holy
Bow is a melee-midrange weapon you just aren’t dash striking hard enough
and electo is my least fav sister to fight
fair, i mean how new are your to this game btw?
Furies wr is on Alecto
40 hrs in
oh lol
guys genuine question: you guys have trouble on tisiphone?
for speedrunning?
40% faster attacks can make her annoying
ok… yeah i was wondering that
shes prolly the longest one to fight too no?
Yes
I don’t speedrun much I got my sub10 and never really looked back
I do :)
well yeah and she basically downsizes the room each phase, which is also more annoying.
downsized room good for dps
Tis has more health than the other 2
that’s what i thought
Meg 4800
Alecto 5200
Tisiphone 5600
that’s ok: i believe it matters on comfort level, which is understandable.
speedrunning is certainly not for everyone but i will admit: it’s fun! ehm… MOST of the time
yea honestly
but just beware, theres a condition that includes either 1 main sister and 1/2 supports.
and all three are really interesting to deal with… or annoying, that too.
esp ONE particular attack… ugh…
I've only crashed out like twice
fair enough
1:21 styxdad of a 3:49
I cannot believe I didn't put a hole through my monitor
fr i understand… they aren’t fun to deal with
glad you didn’t tho
geez
so true
not really common with me tbh… i just get slightly annoyed at best
the most il do when i get mad is just like
at worst… i just turn off the game lol
take a break from the game
yeah lol
since i beat the game once do u think i should be trying to use heat slowly so i can get rewards or do u think i should be just focusing on beating the game more
that’s your decision… but i recommend generally going at your own pace.
getting successful runs with heat rewards you with more valuable resources.
like what?
i thought it just gave the same stuff u get when u beat all of the milestones the first time aswell
titan blood, ambrosia, diamonds, etc
yeah i do wish it would change, but it doesn’t sadly
fair yea
haha yeah that’s very common
It’s whole point is to keep it’s own message visible for lost Hades 2 players
So we don’t get spoiled
Hence why it always sends it’s message after a few messages
Well more like stickybot was implemented when H2 first went on early access
And so the server was flooded w/ new users who came here by accident
Couldn’t tell you
It came out at an awkward time for me to get it and that hasn’t changed since
Just too busy to dump time into it
No
If you’re worried about value, there’s a lot more to do in hades to get bang for your buck
But if you like the gameplay you see, it could be worth getting 2, even though it’s very unpolished rn
do u have any tips for fighting the third boss btw?
i always seem to lose 1 or 2 revives
when fighting them
idk how to fight them without taking a buttload of dmg
are you having trouble with ||asterius(bull)|| or ||theseus(the man)||
#h1-for-new-players message wall of text go
but i take alot of dmg to both
Read down from there
Zaagreus 35
Thanatos 1
hope he isnt sad
How do i equip a companion? I have a handful of keepsakes with the icon showing I have finished it/have the compaign but i dont see how u equip?
Click on it in the keepsake chest
do i need to unlock that bottom row in the keepsake closest?
do you need the keepsake equipped for that companion?
i dont have anything in that row yet, guess i needto keep playing..
not sure why i dont have it tho
you need to max your relationship with specific characters
||thanatos, meg, dusa, Sisyphus, achilles, skelly||
is that done by regifting multiple nectar potions?
yeah
at some point you'll reach a lock in the hearts, which means you need to do a favor/task for the character
often this task is kinda just "keep talking" but you can refer to the wiki for details
after that you swap to gifting ambrosia
bet thx
hi
What are 5 locked slots under keepsakes?
||different type of item you can use during a run||
||you need to max relationships for it||
Why is there like no ytbers that do hades
no money in older games 🤷♂️
"older"
game came out in 2020, most of the video games I watch videos about are older
the people who do, dont know meta/optimally or can give insightful advice while spoiling the game too early for newer players
compared to marvel rivals, hades 2, bat to the heavens, etc
just text & some short video tutorials from the discord atp, haelian after you get your first win (and speedruns via speedrun.com for more advanced gameplay)
there are most definitely a bunch of roguelite channels but they often just make a handful of videos for each game
just beat lord hades in hades 1, when shld i move over to hades 2?
like... for the first time?
you're only like a fraction of the way into the game atp
not for some time if you like to complete games
please cover the final bosses name for this channel 👍
idk man i just spent liek 4-5 hours on a plane and now im finished?
if you're just defeating him for the first time, then there's actually way more to the victory itself; cuz it technically still leaves room for further story and gameplay
just run out there again lol
hmm okay so wait at what point would the game be considered finished?
4-5 hours is pretty good, but the game has an extensive difficulty system that you just unlocked
we can move out of this channel btw
You’ven’t finished the game
You’re 10% of the way to the credits
and you’d be missing out on the epilogue & the rest of Hades 21020 voicelines 
The game has like infinite gameplay too cuz you just unlocked new difficulty modifiers to make the game harder
Oh wait you already got it explained to you
😔
My b
Am silly
But like theres like a ton of very recent videos on the binding of Isaac for example
Omori is one that's still talked about and came out at the same exact time lmao
Let's say Hades is just (niche-er?)
TBOI is like one of the most known roguelike
How do u unlock the titans blood menu
I’m not a new player but I suck at the game. Should I ask for help in this channel?
You need to have all the weapons unlocked and then enter a run
Yeah also #h1-builds-and-combat is useful
About as much as you can expect
is daedalus hammer upgrades classify as a boon? or nah
no
Fr
This channel is for people who haven't gotten to the credits, so if you're 'not good' this channel should help
it feels good finally having more than 50 starting HP 😭 i didnt know thick skin existed
should i realistically js keep doing runs till i get all key unlocks and give the nector to whoever i havnt then after that js keep giving it to 1 person, bc it seeeems like that would be the best but i seriously cannot tell
yes
alr thank yee feller
anytime
i didnt know some weapons some runs gave you bonus darkness 😭 im making major bread now and idk what to spend it on bc i have all the upgrades i need
@somber frigate ty for the tips the other day i just won 2 rounds in a row
the deadalus hammer upgrade that makes ur shield shoot a piercing shot is so broken
the fact that u can combo it in with ur attacks and just spam it is kinda crazy
So true
it carried the run
i didnt even use any of my revives
what are good heats to use to just getting started with heat and to just slowly get rewards
Nice
why extreme measures that one actually sounds kinda hard
You haven’t used it yet I presume?
The first two levels are just fine
nope i havent
ohh
like the first two are meg and hydra, and really accessible
3 is still fine but a bit annoying
that makes sense
2, while making the hydra fight more dangerous, does make it slightly easier
because all the spawned hydra heads are closer together, you can easily kill multiple at the same time