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I've unlocked 5 non-zag aspects, to get the hidden ones do I just have to keep doing runs until I get special dialogue?
Do I need to farm darkness after maxxing everything in the mirror? Other than ||the rank system|| and the trade thing
Same with keys
nope
well there are a lot of things you buy with darkness
so basically, yes
not with keys tho, keys are useless after some point
at a beginner's level, the shield or (adamant) rail are the best
i killed meg with rail for the first time
Kind of, there are definitely things you can do to make the process faster. Won't spoil anything but you can look on the wiki
Pick a weapon that speaks to you and stick with it
Achilles spear was my first one because the extra mobility from the special saved me countless times
You’ll get her eventually, it’s about memorizing her attacks
Tips for clearing asphodel witch room on fists?
what are the best boons for zeus shield? 🙂
What boons would you guys recommend for Chiron's Bow?
there’s this combo i use but it needs privileged status maxed out on the mirror
I've got enough darkness to max out most of the mirror
Pretty sure I have privileged status
okay so my combo is:
- drunken flourish from dionysus
- heartbreak strike from aphrodite
basically you hit an enemy with aphrodite’s attack, and then you special with dionysus
since you have privileged status they take crazy damage when you hit them with both
A very strong build on Chiron is tidal dash and arty attack and then look for special or attack hammers, flurry and concentrated volley being go to picks
Then look for any non ares, Athena, pos, or Demeter special
I always prefer pos special
Should I try to go for hermes to get either attack or special speed up?
Also why do I see a lot of people promoting Poseidon's Dash?
because its very strong
high dmg and knockback is good if u dash into an enemy
Does it destroy projectiles?
I know dashes make me invincible but like
Projectiles are a nuisance, that's why I run Athena's dash
Does Poseidon's destroy them at least?
I don’t think so, but if you are actually worried about getting hit by projectiles, you’re not dashing enough
i wanted to share a (unfortunately failed) run and wanted to share what i ended up with and was wondering what i had to to to be able to share photos?
Hello 🙂
do we always start from 0? I thought I had reached a new stage
Yeah
Oh yes ? do we have to do the same boss again?
Roguelikes always do that
oh yeah ok
i was wondering if there was a backup at some point
Hear me out tho
One-shotting witches with their own projectiles is funny tho
@mellow cradle yeah its funny. especially the ones later on.
is vicious skewer good on aspect of achilles?
No
I think it's okay at best. Archilles only uses the special for the bonus to damage
If you’re running a merciful end build, are you cooked if you don’t beat the 1/9 odds and find natural athena in tartarus? Every run I have 2-4 gods by the time I’m in asphodel and I heard merciful end has a lower chance of showing up than other duo boons
It does not have a lower chance of showing up than other duos, and you don’t need to hit a natty Athena unless you are doing high level speed runs
how to become strong at the game?
You can just force it into asphodel. Don’t take boons that open up other duos for ares and Athena
so how heat exacly work?
everytime i beat hades on some weapon i should beat it with +1 heat?
and does every aspect of weapon work as seperate weapon?
you can increase by more than 1 and you won't lose out on any rewards. The heat tracks per weapon but if you go to the administrative chamber you can see highest heat for each aspect
how to become strong at the game?
ok thanks
slow attacks are better with % boosts and fast attacks are better with flat damage. divine dash and tidal dash are good places to start for damage and safety
I guess start by trying different boons and like reading all their descriptions and stuff, I suppose. Need to start somewhere
Hard to develop skill without some familiarity with things
Where is the Codex that it talks about? WIth boon info?
I just beat hades for the first time. What is the best option for 1 heat haha?
Or better is there a heat guide?
I recently did my first clear and found the +20% enemy spawns easy
so free that I didn't notice a difficulty difference on my heat clear and my first clear
Check the pinned messages in #h1-high-heat-strategies and scroll down the list
should I reroll my achilles spear at the hammer shop in styx? didn't get flurry jab, did get the ranged jab, and I do not want to be cooked by redacted
do you only have 1 hammer?
I have 2
this build is terrible man
oh my god the hammer thing isn't even an option
I'm cooked ig
The OST for this game is awesome
Is there enough space in redacteds laser beams to dash strike him or can you only stand there and melee
Why can’t I give than or meg my nectar in the house? Just killed redacted, respawned, listened in on Meg and talked to Than but there was no option to gift before or after. Don’t remember if I gifted Than omw out of Tartarus.
Ye cannae gift if the would-be recipient is in a conversation
fighting the Bone Hydra for the first time
boss fights always start out easy, but then quickly ramp up in difficulty as their health goes down
Than was not in a conversation with someone else, he was standing at the balcony
Was he like "I GOTTA GO"?
going into the Bone Hydra fight with 300 health and a stack of death defiance
Dang 300 max hp by Hydra is
a lot of hearts to pick up
only took 150 damage in the fight
a lot better than dying lol
I think it's cause I grabbed life afirmation and upgraded it early
That’s fair enough
Life affirmation can’t level up iirc
So
Do you mean a rarity boost?
yeah rarity boost
going from Tartarus on up, the enemies definitely fight differently
I've found that the Bow's special is very useful defensively
it just deletes all the projectile spam in front of you
very useful for certain fights
is the charged shot good on beowulf?
Absolutely
minotaur rush is on my plate as well
Minotaur Rush is bad
best in slot
minotaur rush is garbage and u should never take it
only sudden rush is rlly useful other than cshot
ferocious guard gives tiny amount of extra damage
if u want
Theseus is an annoying character (edited out curse word)
what is the best use for nectar? I unlocked every keepsake. Only the last two are missing.
You can give more to characters you like to deepen your relationship with them
Does cyclops jerky select work with super damage or does it work only with basic attacks?
am i right in saying once you die you need to start again?
yes
but u get more darkness and various currencies every run to give u various boosts to make it easier
ok thanks i'll watch some beginner guides before i make any dramatic refund decisions as quite like the gameplay of the game
What’s the point of giving characters nectar beyond acquiring their keepsake?
Mostly to unlock more dialogue/side quests, though some of them might also give you something else when you fully max out their relationship :)
You can pet Cerberus
Yeah starting to enjoy it now despite dying a ton
how did the fight go 
CERBERUS VANQUISHED
(You did this.)
am I the only one who thinks 2 is more difficult than 1
Bow
In the early game, since you don't have a lot of damage, the most important thing is fully focusing on dodging her skills so you can defeat her slowly
Basically don't rush it, it's the first boss and you don't have a lot of boons yet
im a new player
hi a new player, I'm Dad!
once you beat meg slowly with ur first weapon choice i suggest saving up keys for the spear and get an ability called aspect of Achilles. When u beat a boss for the first time you can get an item called titan’s blood that can unlock and level extra abilities otherwise known as aspects that will drastically change the playstyle for that weapon
This boss reward, that boss reward, or that other boss reward?
megara
It's used for upgrading weapons eventually, but don't worry about it for the moment 👍
ok
try just doing runs for darkness so that you can get more abilities from the mirror , that makes it so much easier
I found 2 harder at first but now I think 1 is harder because 2 has the funny beam phase which is an opportunity for massive damage for melee
is health regen pretty much nonexistent here?
Mmhm outside of Cursed Slash on the swords, Draining Cutter on fists, fountain chambers, food from shops, Chthonic Vitality from the Mirror of Night, etc.
there is so much healing in this game
you unlock it as you progress though. first run there's only shop food and well healing
and fountains?
Fountains are an unlock via the contractor
what about the midbiome ones
Looks like they're there even on Fresh File
the midbiome fountains always exist but you can upgrade them to heal more in the contractor
I dont really understand how duo boons work. For example mirage shot. Do i need to have my Attack , Call and Dash all filled only with Artemis and Poseidon? Or for example if i have Aphrodite on Cast and Special but the rest on Artemis and Poseidon can i still get mirage shot?
you just need to fill the prereq
in the codex it'll say 1 of whoever
and give you a bunch of options
you just need 1 of each and you're fine
so artemis attack and poseidon cast would open up mirage shot
Make sure to get the second dash, and Shadow Strike, it makes a huge difference
hey i am new to hades(1st game)
and i never asked my question lmao 😅
so i beat the final boss with a weapon and i know for each difficulty i beat it i get the blood thing right?
so lets say i have never beaten it with the bow, on normal difficulty and i beat it on heat 1 will i get the rewards for the previous difficulty too? or should i go step by step?
is there an ingame tracker?
0 heat's rewards are unique: they aren't rewarded at any heat level other than 0 heat
so..
i need to beat 0 heat even tho i beat it on heat 1? and is there an ingame checklist?
Yep
Heat levels are not cumulative. If you beat the game at 2 heat, you do not automatically beat it at 1 and at 0. They are like isolated levels of difficulty and also isolated by weapon. You can beat with the sword up to 5 heat and it does not affect your spear.
Every heat level beyond 0 gives you the rewards available from the lowest available heat level (for a given aspect). So you could in theory jump straight to 20 heat, beat that ten times, and gain the rewards for heats 1-10
ohhh so it doesnt give cumulative damn.. i understand now , and there is no checklist ingame?
There is once you unlock the heat mechanic, but it's a bit clumsy. Need to select aspect, talk to the orange window, etc. etc.
oh okay , thanks a lot for the info u guys, love the game so far it has been in my list for so long
i am also greek so the references are so fun haha
Started strong with ares's cast on hera's bow and grabbing every prophecy boon to exist, doing a lootrun, fully expecting to die in asphodel, I ended up killing redacted lmaooo
if i pick cursed slash does it somehow affect the chambers rng and start giving me a lot of centaur hearts to make up for the HP loss?
On achilles, is rerolling for flurry jabs the most important thing you can do with your reroll?
about enemy spawns, do you approach them from the left or right/do they face the left or right when you enter a room?
Approach them from the left side of the screen
You can’t reroll a hammer 
Unless you mean anvil rng manipulation
No it doesn’t
And if you mean rerolling for swift strike from hermes, then no, you really want to be using your rerolls on hyper sprint -> rush delivery, otherwise grab greatest reflex and lastly grabbing swift strike only if you have flurry jab
ah okay I thought the d20 thing worked on them
just boons and charon ig
How do I use the gun? This thing sucks
wdym
Also, which gun?
They play very different aside from zag and eris
I heard hestia sucks on low titan blood and that's one I have
I've also tried zag
about to lose my 3 clear streak because of it
Most enemies reposition too fast for the special to land unless I spawnkill them, bait them into standing still, the room is small, or bait them into walking into it
Attack feels like a watergun in terms of damage
I've seen people do crazy things with it (the blindfolded playthrough) but idk how to do it like them
Hestia you want to put +% on attack and constantly reload for first shot + special after to cancel the reload animation
so you can move
then
otherwise you put zeus on attack if it’s not hestia
Special isn’t impossible to hit, you just need practice with it, or to replace it with rocket bomb (better dps, easier to hit, faster)
Thanatos hasn't shown up in the house or in the wild in over 5 runs after I got him to 6 hearts
Intentional or bad rng?
he showed up the run I posted this, nvm lol
hey why did he leave before giving me the thing to unlock his next heart
He very busy
If I get a duo god interaction before taking the boon, does it lock me out of other boons? I got curse of drowning from ares and didn't know if rerolling still gave me a shot at merciful end
IIRC you may be able to reroll into ME
how rare is it/duo boons in general? used 3 rerolls on a random athena and didn't get it
12% on normal rooms, 10% for minibosses
I can now dash 5 times
with gods' legacy, that's a flat +10% increase
unfortunately I picked a bad time to take a Chaos boon
time to fight the Hydra at half movement speed
with 5 dashes, it's doable
Welp I have aspect of hera, along with 6 bloodstones and Poseidon's cast
So I basically have an AOE nuke on demand
How much easier would you guys say getting a ||companion|| makes escaping? I do fine and never lose my run to the heroes but by the gods do they drain my death defiances
5 to 20% easier depending on your skill (more skill = more easier)
No
More skill means you need them less tbh
You can use them better but you need them less
Exactly
so yeah you get more value but at the same time that value is less… valuable
Precisely
so I wouldn’t necessarily say 20% at all
It does cut out some miniboss interactions which is very helpgul
I say 20% for more skilled players because they're better at utilizing and following up bursts from companions. Like less skilled players will still have a bit of a slog after deploying their companions, so it eases fights less than it does for better players
Yeah but I’d be hard pressed to say companions make the game 20% easier
Oh. Maybe I'm just bad
what do they say lmao
someone told me once you beat hades once it's much easier to do it again
oh yeah definitely
i mostly have his moveset down i just get clipped by the spin for 40 sometimes
it do be like that
that spin is so annoying
What are the best gods for call?
Usually Zeus and Dionysus
thanks
Athena is good too cause of the invulnerability
but if you're wanting more damage, go with these two
Aphrodite is also great for single target damage
what spear aspect do you guys recommend
i mostly spam her normal call to burst in damage
Achilles 💯
Throwing and charging to your spear is real nice mobility
What are the conditions for Sisyphus to spawn? Is it COMPLETELY random?
The damage buff you get from it is nice too
Yes
When blocking with the shield against redacted, do you aim it at him or clockwise/counterclockwise in the opposite direction of his swing? + Can you block the waves?
Hello, all! So I’m new to Hades. Played it a little just to try it out, but now I’m getting back into it to really sink my teeth in. Any advice, setups for a new player and the like are definitely welcome.
Zeus shield
Zeus Shield?
How do I get some of the different weapons in the game? I only ask cuz I just reinstalled and have the starting gear.
Not nearly as much as zeus or dionysus
Once you have all the base weapons unlocked
you can walk up to them and interact with them after you’ve already selected them to open up the menu
She deals 2500 damage with a maxed out bar, can take out 1/3rd of hades health in one hit.
The main difficult phase for hades is when you bring him below half health in phase 2
yeah and zeus and dionysus are consistent strong bursts that charge themselves back so
So you can almost take him out in one hit as soon as his invuln ends
you’ll can pop a ton of miniguages
Yes, they are great as well.
I mostly pick Zeus myself, but picked aphrodite in the last run and it went really well against hades.
They do great single target dps as well and it’s honestly a lot better than just holding out for a full call
I usually take the auto call charge boon from Hermes so full gauge cann happen like 3 times in hades fight/
It is mostly dependant on your build honestly
Like almost everything in hades.
Quick favour is not doing that much in a Hades fight unless you’re going uber slow
It is really good on shield builds.
Specially if you pick an aspect other than Zeus
a lvl 0 common dio call is doing 2400 damage over 4 calls which is just under what aphrodites does
any boost above that
Really?
throws it over and that’s without even considering that dio call recharges itself with the damage proks
Ok, I admit you were right if that's the case
15*(5 stacks) * 8(damage ticks per stack) * (4 minicalls)
does anyone else have problems with saves going missing here?
also i though poseidon's call was the best
It’s kinda not
Minus the “kinda”
i probably shouldn't ask for techincal advice
?
oh
yeah
hades tech support and tech fixes exist for a reason
I can't make a hard hitting build with the heart-seeking bow for the life of me.
this game is confusing. very determine to learn this game
It’s quite possible
Is this just generic bow?
Im learning. also, Im reading guides here in the discord.
Yes, it's the generic bow
You’ll want to focus on attack +% then
Aphrodite has the highest bonus, so typically her
For hammers you’ll want twin shot > triple shot, if you don’t sed those look for perfect shot, point blank shot, or flurry shot
make sure you’re dash striking
Take attack and dash strike boons from chaos if you can
Yeah. I'm spamming dash-strikes a lot; Using Aphrodite's heart break strike
you’re looking for the typically hyper sprint -> rush delivery from Hermes, for the added damage
after that, I would recommend using zeus call or putting zeus on special and taking dionysus call
Either way you’ll open aphrodite and zeus’s smouldering air duo for added dps
(Charges your call by 5% a second, caps guage at 25%, essentially lets you spam out minicalls for high dps
You can either go for hunter dash (artemis) or tidal dash (poseidon) for more damage on top of that, artemis adding straight to your attack damage, poseidon adding good aoe and damage wherever you dash into, letting you mow down the quick light enemies that might otherwise overrun you
I also really like dionysus cast, it does a lot of damage and can trivialise some later enemies
It’s something quite random to throw on generic bow though tbh
And it removes your ability to use boiling blood
I dont have any weapon aspects , yet.
true, but it's very nice for early when you don't have the aspects to carry
Chiron bow for the win
?
The chiron bow hits hard when you dash strike a charged shot into a homing special
Bonus points if you have daedelus hammers to boost dmg or Artemis for crits
Without titan blood for the chiron bow, the special is only really good for crowd control or else you gotta treat it like a shotgun and get up close by dashing towards your target
it doesnt really hit hard ever at all
I mean yea I also have issues with good dps using the bow. I'm still relatively early in my run having only gotten one win with fists, shield, and rail
you're probably having dps issues cause u use chiron
which is the lowest dps aspect in the game
i think
would there be anything lower
no idts
maybe hidden sword
zag fist or talos
I think
Because at least you can use chiron like discount zagbow
Zag fists are good for dodge builds. Plus any fist works really well with merciful end
Real
It’s been a while
I was thinking of anything aside from ME for dps
And I forgot that zeus fists exists as well
They don't.
Hello ! I've a question about Nectar. When i give some to chyron or some other carachers, they give me a "heart", what is this "Heart" ?
As a build? Yes
Unless you meant like zeus boon on fist
I thought you meant aspect. Sorry
zap fist is not real build
Fair enough
It is basically an affection level. On the first one every character give you an item. Maxing it out doesn't do anything for some characters, maxing it for olympians it unlocks the epilogue, and some house of hades characters it unlocks pets, but that will be for very late game
Zap is just fds and if your aspect plays ME or fds, it doesn’t exist
Sounds like someone fasn't tried gilgamesh with merciful end.
🙏
i believe i have done that
it sucks
It is literally the highest dps in the game
dawg
you do not know anything
that's the most insane thing i've ever heard
are you trolling
Ok some heavily optimised builds might go higher fair
But ME is fairly easy to achieve.
I swear I am not
ok then maybe get like any build knowledge at all
here hold on
View Hades speedruns, leaderboards, forums and more on Speedrun.com
here you go
just for reference
just so we're clear
gilgamesh has no sub30 dads
Its not that easy to get tbh
ME is an insanely high requirement build
and it is still not really that good
especially on an aspect as garbage as gilga
ok hold on just to clear this up
you're saying gilga has higher dps than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXwcigljfSQ
I appreciate this Uchiha-vampire hybrid
you gotta stop assuming that people who don't know as much as you are trolling
not everyone knows what the meta is and what's good or not
be more patient
especially in a channel called #h1-for-new-players lmao
hey homies im trying to unlock aspect of Gilgamesh but im having trouble getting the dialog with bull boi. is there a way to get guaranteed encounter with him . i swear i used to see him all the time but i never encounter him anymore
always get the butterfly boss now
No guarantee, unfortunately
Going off this table, that sounds about right
https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/f4l3be/comment/fhrn7nl/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3&rdt=41779
For Achilles spear, do I take the mirror thing that gives me 3 casts or the one that regenerates casts? Usually run hunting blades or crystal clarity
I’d prefer to rely less on boon rng
Hunting blades take 3 casts, crystal clarity takes regen
Stygian soul is more rng reliant bc you want more casts from chaos
I have a question guys. Achilles wont give me the right dialogue (and yes i have them both at 6 hearts) and i had the dialogue with patroclus where he tells achilles to risk it all, and i had the dialogue with achilles where he says he needs to think for a bit. My problem is, that he just doesnt give me the dialogue. ( I have beaten hades 8 times now and have had like 30 failed runs cuz i just turned it up to heat 57 or smth like that)
is there a reason he doesnt say it or am i just unlucky
Most likely just unlucky
ffs its been 4 hours
does Thanatos cheat in the kill count minigame so that he always gets atleast 1 i swear he just one shot a mob
All his mob kills are one-shots! But they take a long, long time to go off
it was instant
no, its possible for him to get none
just very difficult
That's normal 👍
39th escape attempt, <30 hours, I got my 10th clear :D
I got 2 of the titan blood and im not sure what its for
theres also a trade where i spend 1 for 200 gemstones, is it worth?
Noooo absolutely not unless you literally have no use for the blood (which doesn't seem to be your case)
My rule for everything you collect- If you havent been told everything it does, dont use it until then.
I did ares's favor and got him all the way to the locked heart, but when he showed up again, I had no option to give him ambrosia. Why?
Does "mini-boss" encounter offer better rarity boons, than normal encounter?
Did DatMoonGamer unlock the locked heart first?
Yes, Ninomae
I thought I had to do his favor and have ambrosia on hand before I could unlock that heart
Don't you need to complete the favor (thereby unlocking the locked heart) before you can gift Ambrosia?
isn't his favor killing 10k enemies
Isn't that Ares?
Update: Reddit said after talking to him after claiming the prophecy, I have to talk to him again with my keepsake equipped. I did. Still no unlocked heart. Why?
Someone else said it took them dozens of runs after getting the prophecy even with the keepsake equipped
The keepsake is just so you can vet him chamber 1, as for the why
Bad luck
Dialogue can be somewhat rng even if there isn't any other "important" dialogue remaining
ah man
I want to farm for nectar and than's ||companion||, is it faster to keep clearing or rush through tartarus and commit die on a spike trap?
or if it's just dialogue progression I want, should I keep running the first room and dying?
Found some code that lets you increase thanatos spawns
Will doing so mess with the legitimacy of my runs in the security log/achievements/etc?
hey
hades 1 feels much harder then hades 2.
I came from hades 2 to hades 1. I am keep dying here every now n then
Dying is normal dw about it
Huge spoiler Zagreus dies a lot
prob bc it's a different play style so it's harder to adapt
One thing I learned is dash strike a lot
and I mean a lot
its the only way to avoid the enemy's attacks while still dealing damage
What no way!!!!
It’s also the fastest way to deal damage on most weapons/aspects
And ends up being highest dps
Hello, what do you people consider the best weapon ?
chiron bow
Beowulf no contest. Then Hera, Hestia, Eris, Nemesis, Zeus, Achilles, and Guan Yu for various speed and Heat
Beowulf is bugged to do ludicrous damage with certain boons and such
how can i use god call
im pressing rt buttom
but it doesnt work
what should ı do
is there a useful guide for spending titan blood?
thank you
how to use titan blood
You are welcome
Go in front of the weapon and click the reveal button
Will only be available after you unlock all the weapons
whats the reveal button im playing on console
I got a legendary and duo boon option. Which one is more rare?
legendary
Duo boons require specific boons from 2 gods to get
But Legendary is just pure rng
so it is more rare
this is the channel for hades 1, youre probably looking for #h2-discussion :)
upsi, sry !
Hi, i've been doing a 100% playtrhough of all the supergiant games, and the one that's causing me more trouble is hades haahahaha, the thing is, how do i unlock the rest of meg's hearts? and hipno's?
(sorry if the writing is kinda off, english is not my native)
I have 5 Titan blood what weapon aspect should I unlock
I currently have none of them
I like fists and spear
But I can max out the nemesis sword which doesn’t seem bad to me
my current favorite is hades spear, but i haven't tried a lot of them.
i'd recommend aspect of chiron and hera though, big damage is always fun
Achilles spear is really fun
Spear + hunting blades or crystal clarity for practically afk gameplay
What about fists though
I do have a slight preference
The magnetize ones look funny
But aren’t rated well on YouTube tier lists
Idk about fists I main spear
Have you tried merciful end (the duo boon) on fists yet? You will steamroll your enemies
they're the goat, i love them
Talos can be fun if you wanna get it
can you unlock secret aspects before you finish the main quest
Yeah
cool
Idk how duos work tbh
Be gotten two so far
I assume you need specific books to trigger them
i have no idea what are really good
Boons
Yeah
I’m sending you an image guide to boons in dms, it’s missing a few but I’ve been relying on it and it’s great
i tried the zeus/poseidon one and it was insane
Tell me is not the wiki one
I don't really want advice i just wanna play how i like
I got it off reddit idk
i need to play a game like this way
Also if you already found a duo then a codex upgrade should appear in your work orders soon
It has a boon list for the gods with the requisites needed to get them
Also what’s with the frost grandma
Don’t worry about it
funny cast stuff
:)
She only appears after triggering the hades boss fight?
Spoiler both of that but yeah
Alright
you get a laser
Alright thanks
i don't know what the optimal build is for it but i tried going full demeter with a touch of athena and chipped hades out with their duo boon
and cast
my keyboard decided to die and now my w key isnt working (had to type this by copy and pasting the w lmao)
I'm in the middle of a fight, what happens if I quit now?
the game saves everytime you enter an ecounter
If you can press quit in the pause menu it should be fine
If not is probably gonna delete the run
Keep speaking to them and keep gifting them
and Ambrosia
so i beat everything in hades 2 without ever playing this game, and then i came to this game to beat it too once i ran out of content in hades 2, but im finding it much much harder. i dont exactly know why im struggling so much, anything particularly different that i should be paying attention to?
A lot of weapons rely heavily on dash-strikes, especially the bows
Unfortunately, I haven't played Hades 2, so apologies if my advice isn't super pertinent
i haven't played hades 2, but the combat is very different based on what i have seen and what people have told me
zag plays faster and more aggressive
After using on my keys on the mirror, do I use the rest on nectar?
Don’t use keys on the mirror, unless you mean gems
wdym
unlocked all the mirror aspects
Oh mb I forgot that was a thing
After that and all weapons yeah you could convert to nectar
You could save a few to reroll the mirror but up to you
keep 15 keys at the very least in case the trade for titan blood shows up
Hi I have question, is Hades more like adventure lore game or slash how much you want without end?
gameplay is majority fighting but there is a lot of bonding with characters involved
yeah but like
there is main story right?
and what after that
do you just end game
or you have like game modes and stuff
there's a main story, a Real™️ main story, and then post-epilogue
post-epilogue still has a lot of content regarding character relationships
is modding discussion prohibited here
is the game playable at 45 fps?
Is there any suggestions on which weapon to upgrade first with titan blood?
Check the pinned messages in this channel for cost/benefits per level per aspect per weapon
Can you elaborate? I don't really understand the table
Do you have any specific questions about it?
From what I see, I shouldn't upgrade the sword, cuz it has the lowest rating and focus on any other weap first?
Best weapon? I really like spear, but bow also seems as intresting option
is the game playable at 45 fps?
From what I've played it can be, but extra fps would give u much
Sure, if you want better returns on power for blood, then maybe avoid the Zagreus aspect on the sword and focus on a different aspect (including better sword aspects) first
how do i pass cerberos ? what keep sake to take before him
No: low FPS will pop your eyes out of your head and turn your brain into molasses, then you'll be attacked by a swarm of a billion kittens
go in the tunnels to the left
I recommend taking the miniboss rooms because those are easier
the sack will never spawn in the first room
as for what keepsake to take before passing him, skelly's tooth for your first time imo
Temple of styx's rooms are on the left. About any non God keepsake is good i.e. Skelly tooth, Acorn, Cerb collar (More defensive ones.)
yo
does using the necter that you gift to the gods do anything after you alr did it once?
you need to max out their hearts for a secret endgame thing
You get the following:
- Cute chibi portrait on their respective keepsakes at max hearts
- Progress toward epilogue
- More dialogues, I think
so it doesnt effect boons?
It does not affect boons
alr ty
no the keepsakes do give a small rarity boost
At what titan blood should I use the guandao? 4? 5? The build guide says it sucks at low blood.
it's just that no one uses the keepsakes for the boost
it sucks bc you have no hp, not bc it deals less damage
something something "just dont get hit lol"
ik
how do i pass hades ?
realistically, just use it at whatever level you feel comfortable with
guan yu kinda sucks without the right hammers
I just want to do the prophecy real quick and then work on making it good later
should be fine if I take stubborn defiance and a cast build
on second thought idk if casts are decent with it
Cast build on Guan Yu?
got achillespilled
Special build ig
i mean it doesnt buff casts but you can still build towards casts if you want bc some of the builds just play itself
namely hunting blades
hunting blades = instant win
Yeah, CS on guan yu is pretty strong
CS Guan Yu can be optimized a tad, but you can just as easily spam CS special
cuick spin
second life noooo , betrayed
FATHER NOOOOO
and i killed the bone hydra like it was nothinh
On what weapon
thats what i said LOL
the sword
I WANTED TO MET DEMETER
Do you have double edge?
i think it comes after you get a certian distance
what?
Hammer for sword
thats why i wanted to pass hades
you get her once you reach the surface once
no matter the outcome
i also got hermes more dash in a row thing
you're guaranteed demeter next run btw
Yeah double edge is super strong
real
good choice, Cursed slash is super weak
ye figured lol
how do i get the last upgrade thing for the sword anyway?
like where u put titan blood
the wiki said when i use 5 blood it would mean to talk to that lady
but i did
and nun happened
do u get only 1 blod 4 comleting a bos with 1 weapon ?
found about god mode 2 runs ago Q-Q
yeah i did it with 6 weapons
god mode?
oh
it makes it easier
;-;
takes out the fun lol
i love me a challenge
not if u fought 4 2 months and just now got to the snow plane
skill issue
jkjk lol
good 4 u , i dont
i mean i ws playng like3 rounds 1-2 days a week ?
oh
i do like 3 rounds over like 2 days
but its bc i gotta do stuff
job and school yk
sis
sis
i a degree next month my 40 page is at 2 (the title)
there
nice
im taking 7 ap classes out of my 8
next year its 9
ap
😭
also
rest in peace thy soul
its online this year
next to zagreus
9 classes per day goodness
so the test
i do way better with paper testing
especially since i can get around the testing site
i was playing coolmath during it
don say nun lol
i finished everything so it was at the end
i need the extra class bc i aint paying for no extra college classes
i think i have to test while talking , idk how to express it, 12 clases in 1 exam
oh dang
i know nothing
the ap site
legit
gives the keybind to escape
without messing with the test
i thought it was funny
i showed my proctor
bro busted out laughing
didnt say nun either
guess my gpa
3.8
I'm imagining your English teachers crying right now LOL (no offense)
close its 3.9
nahh that thing is op
it's a heavy hit to your hp but in return you become immortal
she alr finished crying
when i corrected her grammer in class
with admin in the room
:)
she was mean to me untill i did that LOL
yeah its where i win by default
lol
i dont do that normally
but she decided to make an example out of me bc im 6'4
so i said
get rekt
Under what circumstances? The HP recovery's nice, but many rooms and bosses hit hard enough rapidly enough to overwhelm Cursed Slash
she even admitted to that lol
ok question
im at zues orb
there are 3 epic
there is a cast, a call or a revenge damage
which should i choose
revenge it is
Not sure about higher heat but I did my first clear with sword with it and it was so free the entire time
Thanks
If I took a hit at all, I'd just whack them between their attacks and heal back to full
whats the best companion?
Maybe I'm misremembering my experiences with it at lower heats
Battie's the best companion bar none
hello
Mort does more damage but some bosses move out of his aoe before he strikes
alr ty
can someone help me, I don't know how to create treats for unlocking new familiars in hades 2
sorry
from meg
yeah but what do i do to get it?
give her ambrosia
oh
alr ty
whats the best way to give it to her? like idk if its in the fighting area or what?
oh ok
man I tried getting than's companion first because he doesn't show up often, 30 runs later meg and than are both at the locked heart because mf hasn't shown up in nearly 10 runs
Finally got arounnd to playin hades. Gettin my ass kicked, but I keep getting distracted with all the awesome art
k
long knuckle is also good for safety
alr bet ty
if youre on demeter fists, kinetic launcher for a shorter special animation and more range/damage is good
explosive upper is also a straight up 100% boost for the charged upper so it's hella chunky too
ill remember that ty
but bro
i got zeus special attack at epic rarity
and
it destroys
with gloves
bro-
yay me i got another diamond
rip
i got another ambrosaia now too
same run lol
ima be mad if i finish for the first time with gloves
bc
it takes way more effort with gloves lol
nope
died as he was at 2nd life and almost ded
Gloves didn't feel like they were terribly hard to use, but I guess I used god mode and had 50% defense on the first win. Final boss does so much goddamn damage normally
did not like fists until I realized they slap with merciful end
When will I be able to use my Titan Blood?
after you unlock all weapons, do an extra run
then check back the placeholder of where your weapon is in the courtyard
ah tks
I have to feed ambrosia to the companion and the guy that gave it to me separately?
Yes because Zagreus is the type of guy who'll feed his stuffed animals
I've got ||demeter|| and arty to 6 hearts, do I just keep talking to them until they give me a favor quest?
nvm the guide says ||demeter|| is post-epilogue and up to the locked heart counts
hi, i cannot seem to upgrade my weapons despite unlocking all of them? When i equip a weapon, the option to reveal and upgrade does not show up. am i missing some hidden requirements or something?
do another run
Then talk to Skelly, boyo
alright, thanks
Should I hold off on the ambrosia? Saw Thanatos with a ❗ but I ||gifted him ambrosia, he flipped out, fled, and now I'm thinking I'm moving too fast?|| Will I have this issue with Meg?
And everyone else after I reach the ambrosia stage, for that matter
what are the requirements to getting charged volley, chain skewer, charged skewer, and quake cutter
Hello everyone!
Quick question
By 'End Boss Onward', does that mean anything that happens after beating the Final Boss or anything that happens after Greece?
Got it
If a chaos gate shoes up but for example i could go for poseidon boon also will it safe the poseidon boon for my next god boon option after i enter chaos gate or will it be random again?
Because sometimes i want to take the chaos gate but the perfect god boon apears also. I skip chaos gate because i dont want to miss on the god boon. Feels so bad sometimes haha
guys how can i get skilled?
Practice
first thin i got is huge catch :3
boon is better
chaos mostly gives stat ups and resource rewards but the extra cast/death defiance is nice
if you have an olympian boon in your face i'd rather just take it than gamble
thanks mate
I often take chaos but is a more speedrunning mentality
i'm not really good at the game though
And idk your weapon so idk how much you wanted pos to show up
i just like mindless key spam mixed with cool story
Depends on what you need
Cuz if you were using pos keepsake for example chances are that pos will show up soon again
Ex: I run cast builds on Achilles spear so I always take chaos gate in the hopes of +1 cast
(unless is aspho where too many skips can easily lead to skipping your keepsake lmao)
Oh yeah right choice for pos then lmao
cast didnt feel really useful for that
Special dmg is nice but tidal dash is too good
how long does it take to max every aspect
is it worth restarting since i havent played in half a year and forgot all the story
or rather what is the highest heat i need to win for enough titan blood
Story is awesome but the game for me is also alot of fun without any story
If you do all bounties with all weapons + prophecies you are still short of maxing everything iirc
Need to trade ambrosia/fishing
#h1-story-discussion pins
Or better how did you guys spend your titan blood?
I spend all i have in zeus shield, hera, Achilles, eris, nemesis
but i feel like thats stupid haha
You pretty much unlocked all the meta aspects lmao
For new files I just dump the first bloods into random aspects to get the hidden aspects unlocked, then max one of a random weapon I like so I can steamroll through the bounties and then lvl up others
and just bought all s tier
And my first file I just cheated in blood
hahahahhaha
that sounds like a plan
do you guys have braindead easy cannot-possibly-lose-with-this shield build for new players?
like merciful end or crystal cast/hunting blades but for shield
chaos + all the zeus?
Do zeus shield instead but that works
zeus aspect with zeus and poseidon builds
and stack on some debuffs for the mirror effect
make your own better blade rift
Hidden shield tbh but Zeus is fun
Higher skill floor than the beo though
Should I max out my favorite aspect (achilles) first or scatter my titan bloods to unlock all hidden aspects asap
Whatever you want
There’s more than enough blood in the game. I have like 60 extra rn.
Infinite blood!
i think im sitting at like 90 now lmao
What's the little gem looking thing with a face that's under nectar?
Is it purple and drop shaped?
Nvm
Misread it
Nope
I can't send a sc
It's not ambrosia, nectar, gems, darkness, diamond, keys, or titan blood
It's something else
I have 4 of them no clue what it is
Message a Discord bot with the screenshot, then copy+paste the link here
Copy link not copy message link
Sorry. The image link
Hang on
On phone click the image, 3 dots at top right then share
Its the door/boon reroll
Fated authority/persuasion yeah that ^
Ohhhhh
Thats a 20 sided die
Haha I saw a face
If you don't have the skill yet you can also get them from the fated keys work upgrade
Understandable i think if i never knew a 20 sided die i wouldnt know what that is
Thanks
Which gives a dice each time you pick up a key
This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.
my bad
If you could delete the comment that would be appreciated! No problem!
i deleted it, just pointing u up ⬆️ to the hades 2 category
on what heat level did you guys farm darkness?
or is there a better way to get more darkness?
9 heat (FO2 and EM2) is optimal for speeding through runs
the better way is to pick up speedrunning and/or heat so you actually have fun instead of grinding for a number that doesnt affect gameplay
you'll get the darkness, slower, but you'll have a better time
i just want to get my lasr mirror upgrades
FO2, and EM2 works
but i play with my diffretn weapons always one heat higher and win most of the time so i get like 0 darkness
oh yeah so if you don't advance in heat you'll get the darkness
thanks mate
ye i know so i will paly until heat 9 and than i do some runs for darkness 🙂
thanks for the help
bro i just got the best boon ever-
it makes all my future boons epic or higher
nothing lower
bro
ima be op
if i do runs on heat higher than the heat level that is required can i do the lower levels and get their bounty rewards? or how does it work
You'll get the bounty of your lowest heat first
So if you only need 2 but do like 5 heat, you'll claim the 2 heat bounties forst
Then if you repeat the pact you'll claim heat 3 and so on until it catches up
ohhh
uhh
i should just immediately do the skelly pact thing then
If you want yeah
What's the best way to transition from God mode on to God mode off? Using the enemy dmg boosting heat to counter the dmg reduction? I just have a lot of trouble avoiding damage from the bosses of Elysium and Styx
Chill builds to learn enemy attack patterns?
first idea sounds like a good way
Occasionally I screw up and stand right in front of those witches that shoot bullet hell projectiles and lose half my health bar D:
You have to learn how to time your dashes right, so maybe it could help to watch the better players and see when and how they dash
Fair. I also have a bad habit of constantly dash striking and I only recently learned you lose dash invincibility when doing so
If you're not killing most enemies in seconds at the moment, it might be good to learn how to create good builds too. The best defense is a good offense
I can reliably dispatch of enemies with the fists, sword, and rail, but struggle with the spear and bow (it's not a big problem with the shield)
The spear I probably need to try a better build. The bow I just need to better time the power shots, though I still have trouble with crowd control when using it...
Is one of the weapons like noticeably better or is it mostly just preference?
Mostly preference for pretty much the entire game
Alr
any tips for someone like me playing Hades? This is my first roguelike that I've ever played and I've played transitor from these guys before
been wanting to get into this game when it got discounted
Get used to dying a lot
Also dashes have iframes by default but attacking removes them
talk to all the npcs between runs
Read the tooltips on boons and such. Reaaaaad
Flat damage like zeus and Dionysus work best on fast, low damage attacks while % based boosts work best on slow, high damage attacks
Don’t spread yourself too thin in terms of boons. Get a god or two and focus on boosting a few sources of damage
Recommended Mirror effects for a decent player?
ok so ive put over 5 titan blood in my sword and talked to nyx but i still cant get the last aspect...
does she need to be given necter for it to work?
also what does the admin room do
Check pinned messages
Do you have hidden spear revealed
4th aspect
You need that first before any other 4th aspect
how do i get it
Method is pinned in #h1-story-discussion
alr
how do i unlock guan yu
or whatever its called
Acquire the Fated List, unlock at least 5 other aspects, and fight the final boss at least once (outcome is irrelevant). Achilles should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.
ok
im trying to use the bow but idk a good method... any tips?
Get used to dash strike power shot rhythm
alr
Grab aphro attack, twin/triple shot ideally as first hammer then perfect/point blank/flurry/explosive
k
ty
is the dash atk supposed to fire an arrow?
Yeah
alr just making sure
Just dash then hold atk
ty
You'll notice if it's the dash strike cuz zag holds the bow differently
Twin-shot is goated, honestly though point-blank/flurry is cool too
I'd only take explosive if you have attack speed + from hermes cuz that charge speed is so slow ☠️
And the charge is faster
Attack speed doesn't work on dash strikes
Dash strikes are pretty weak tho???
They charge faster
For a bit less base dmg
And you also get the benefit of reposition/any dash strike bonuses you can get
Only time I'd use dash is for the sword because 140% increase in damage is crazy (i think I got the math right)
Pretty much every weapon dash strikes
Really?
Yeah
Chaos dash strike bonuses can go up to 100%+ at epic for example
Also going back to explosive the trick is to just not bother with power shots all the time
Explosive amps up the dmg a lot
power shot is click and hold right?
And release when zag flashes
k
I suggest practicing at skelly for a while
So in that case would flurry/explosive work or is that combo illegal?

