#h1-for-new-players

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coarse lily
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is there a meme channel?

slender flint
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I've unlocked 5 non-zag aspects, to get the hidden ones do I just have to keep doing runs until I get special dialogue?

slender flint
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Do I need to farm darkness after maxxing everything in the mirror? Other than ||the rank system|| and the trade thing

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Same with keys

stable ridge
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nope

swift aspen
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so basically, yes

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not with keys tho, keys are useless after some point

dim zenith
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best weapon?

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i keep dying to magera

zenith stirrup
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Debatable

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Zeus shield, Beowulf, Hestia rail

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Those are some commonly named ones

swift aspen
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i killed meg with rail for the first time

spice crater
last pollen
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okay i just unlocked aspects

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what shall i upgrade.

slender flint
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Achilles spear was my first one because the extra mobility from the special saved me countless times

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You’ll get her eventually, it’s about memorizing her attacks

slender flint
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Tips for clearing asphodel witch room on fists?

inner ridge
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what are the best boons for zeus shield? 🙂

mellow cradle
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What boons would you guys recommend for Chiron's Bow?

wide elbow
mellow cradle
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I've got enough darkness to max out most of the mirror
Pretty sure I have privileged status

wide elbow
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basically you hit an enemy with aphrodite’s attack, and then you special with dionysus

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since you have privileged status they take crazy damage when you hit them with both

mellow cradle
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Got it

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I'll try it

novel swift
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A very strong build on Chiron is tidal dash and arty attack and then look for special or attack hammers, flurry and concentrated volley being go to picks

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Then look for any non ares, Athena, pos, or Demeter special

steady lark
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I always prefer pos special

mellow cradle
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Should I try to go for hermes to get either attack or special speed up?

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Also why do I see a lot of people promoting Poseidon's Dash?

wind vessel
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high dmg and knockback is good if u dash into an enemy

mellow cradle
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Does it destroy projectiles?

wind vessel
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all dashes make u invincible

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just dash in general

mellow cradle
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I know dashes make me invincible but like
Projectiles are a nuisance, that's why I run Athena's dash

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Does Poseidon's destroy them at least?

novel swift
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I don’t think so, but if you are actually worried about getting hit by projectiles, you’re not dashing enough

ripe rain
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i wanted to share a (unfortunately failed) run and wanted to share what i ended up with and was wondering what i had to to to be able to share photos?

floral falcon
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Hello 🙂
do we always start from 0? I thought I had reached a new stage

mellow cradle
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Yeah

floral falcon
mellow cradle
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Yeah

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It's a full reset every time you die

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Start from square one

slender isle
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Roguelikes always do that

floral falcon
mellow cradle
jade thistle
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@mellow cradle yeah its funny. especially the ones later on.

desert totem
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is vicious skewer good on aspect of achilles?

novel swift
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No

cedar delta
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I think it's okay at best. Archilles only uses the special for the bonus to damage

slender flint
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If you’re running a merciful end build, are you cooked if you don’t beat the 1/9 odds and find natural athena in tartarus? Every run I have 2-4 gods by the time I’m in asphodel and I heard merciful end has a lower chance of showing up than other duo boons

novel swift
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It does not have a lower chance of showing up than other duos, and you don’t need to hit a natty Athena unless you are doing high level speed runs

late holly
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how to become strong at the game?

hollow hull
plush knoll
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so how heat exacly work?
everytime i beat hades on some weapon i should beat it with +1 heat?
and does every aspect of weapon work as seperate weapon?

hollow hull
late holly
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how to become strong at the game?

hollow hull
late holly
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i have no idea about superpowers names

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i just bought it 2 days ago

cedar delta
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I guess start by trying different boons and like reading all their descriptions and stuff, I suppose. Need to start somewhere

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Hard to develop skill without some familiarity with things

olive carbon
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Where is the Codex that it talks about? WIth boon info?

inner ridge
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I just beat hades for the first time. What is the best option for 1 heat haha?

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Or better is there a heat guide?

slender flint
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so free that I didn't notice a difficulty difference on my heat clear and my first clear

cedar delta
slender flint
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should I reroll my achilles spear at the hammer shop in styx? didn't get flurry jab, did get the ranged jab, and I do not want to be cooked by redacted

sweet brook
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do you only have 1 hammer?

slender flint
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I have 2

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this build is terrible man

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oh my god the hammer thing isn't even an option

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I'm cooked ig

rose basin
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The OST for this game is awesome

slender flint
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Is there enough space in redacteds laser beams to dash strike him or can you only stand there and melee

sweet brook
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fairly certain you can only melee

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too small to actually dash

slender flint
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Why can’t I give than or meg my nectar in the house? Just killed redacted, respawned, listened in on Meg and talked to Than but there was no option to gift before or after. Don’t remember if I gifted Than omw out of Tartarus.

cedar delta
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Ye cannae gift if the would-be recipient is in a conversation

rose basin
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fighting the Bone Hydra for the first time

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boss fights always start out easy, but then quickly ramp up in difficulty as their health goes down

slender flint
cedar delta
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Was he like "I GOTTA GO"?

rose basin
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going into the Bone Hydra fight with 300 health and a stack of death defiance

somber frigate
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a lot of hearts to pick up

rose basin
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only took 150 damage in the fight

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a lot better than dying lol

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I think it's cause I grabbed life afirmation and upgraded it early

somber frigate
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Life affirmation can’t level up iirc

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So

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Do you mean a rarity boost?

rose basin
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yeah rarity boost

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going from Tartarus on up, the enemies definitely fight differently

rose basin
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I've found that the Bow's special is very useful defensively

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it just deletes all the projectile spam in front of you

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very useful for certain fights

desert totem
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is the charged shot good on beowulf?

cedar delta
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Absolutely

desert totem
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minotaur rush is on my plate as well

cedar delta
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Minotaur Rush is bad

final dune
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minotaur rush is garbage and u should never take it

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only sudden rush is rlly useful other than cshot

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ferocious guard gives tiny amount of extra damage

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if u want

rose basin
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Theseus is an annoying character (edited out curse word)

inner ridge
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what is the best use for nectar? I unlocked every keepsake. Only the last two are missing.

leaden whale
placid spruce
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Does cyclops jerky select work with super damage or does it work only with basic attacks?

dim lichen
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am i right in saying once you die you need to start again?

neon quiver
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yes

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but u get more darkness and various currencies every run to give u various boosts to make it easier

dim lichen
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ok thanks i'll watch some beginner guides before i make any dramatic refund decisions as quite like the gameplay of the game

neon quiver
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u will get better

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it do be hard at first tho

tepid mason
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What’s the point of giving characters nectar beyond acquiring their keepsake?

astral pawn
atomic totem
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yo i just got thew game

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its pretty fun

rose basin
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You can pet Cerberus

dim lichen
coarse lily
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just met my dog, have to fight against him this time!

neon quiver
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how did the fight go squirtheh

coarse lily
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ended in 10s

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🤣

slender isle
coarse lily
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am I the only one who thinks 2 is more difficult than 1

warm skiff
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Bow

drifting moat
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In the early game, since you don't have a lot of damage, the most important thing is fully focusing on dodging her skills so you can defeat her slowly

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Basically don't rush it, it's the first boss and you don't have a lot of boons yet

gentle aspen
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im a new player

swift aspen
covert ledge
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once you beat meg slowly with ur first weapon choice i suggest saving up keys for the spear and get an ability called aspect of Achilles. When u beat a boss for the first time you can get an item called titan’s blood that can unlock and level extra abilities otherwise known as aspects that will drastically change the playstyle for that weapon

coarse lily
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try to focus on upgrading your skills and unlocking weapons?zaggrin zaggrin

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use the pot

atomic totem
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what do i do

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with the boss reward

cedar delta
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This boss reward, that boss reward, or that other boss reward?

atomic totem
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megara

cedar delta
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It's used for upgrading weapons eventually, but don't worry about it for the moment 👍

atomic totem
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ok

misty raven
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try just doing runs for darkness so that you can get more abilities from the mirror , that makes it so much easier

sweet brook
slender flint
gentle aspen
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is health regen pretty much nonexistent here?

cedar delta
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Mmhm outside of Cursed Slash on the swords, Draining Cutter on fists, fountain chambers, food from shops, Chthonic Vitality from the Mirror of Night, etc.

hollow hull
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there is so much healing in this game

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you unlock it as you progress though. first run there's only shop food and well healing

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and fountains?

cedar delta
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Fountains are an unlock via the contractor

hollow hull
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what about the midbiome ones

cedar delta
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Looks like they're there even on Fresh File

sweet brook
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the midbiome fountains always exist but you can upgrade them to heal more in the contractor

inner ridge
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I dont really understand how duo boons work. For example mirage shot. Do i need to have my Attack , Call and Dash all filled only with Artemis and Poseidon? Or for example if i have Aphrodite on Cast and Special but the rest on Artemis and Poseidon can i still get mirage shot?

sweet brook
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you just need to fill the prereq

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in the codex it'll say 1 of whoever

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and give you a bunch of options

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you just need 1 of each and you're fine

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so artemis attack and poseidon cast would open up mirage shot

rose basin
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Make sure to get the second dash, and Shadow Strike, it makes a huge difference

manic stirrup
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hey i am new to hades(1st game)

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and i never asked my question lmao 😅

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so i beat the final boss with a weapon and i know for each difficulty i beat it i get the blood thing right?

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so lets say i have never beaten it with the bow, on normal difficulty and i beat it on heat 1 will i get the rewards for the previous difficulty too? or should i go step by step?

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is there an ingame tracker?

cedar delta
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0 heat's rewards are unique: they aren't rewarded at any heat level other than 0 heat

manic stirrup
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so..

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i need to beat 0 heat even tho i beat it on heat 1? and is there an ingame checklist?

stuck geode
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Yep

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Heat levels are not cumulative. If you beat the game at 2 heat, you do not automatically beat it at 1 and at 0. They are like isolated levels of difficulty and also isolated by weapon. You can beat with the sword up to 5 heat and it does not affect your spear.

cedar delta
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Every heat level beyond 0 gives you the rewards available from the lowest available heat level (for a given aspect). So you could in theory jump straight to 20 heat, beat that ten times, and gain the rewards for heats 1-10

manic stirrup
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ohhh so it doesnt give cumulative damn.. i understand now , and there is no checklist ingame?

cedar delta
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There is once you unlock the heat mechanic, but it's a bit clumsy. Need to select aspect, talk to the orange window, etc. etc.

manic stirrup
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oh okay , thanks a lot for the info u guys, love the game so far it has been in my list for so long

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i am also greek so the references are so fun haha

slender flint
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Started strong with ares's cast on hera's bow and grabbing every prophecy boon to exist, doing a lootrun, fully expecting to die in asphodel, I ended up killing redacted lmaooo

desert totem
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if i pick cursed slash does it somehow affect the chambers rng and start giving me a lot of centaur hearts to make up for the HP loss?

slender flint
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On achilles, is rerolling for flurry jabs the most important thing you can do with your reroll?

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about enemy spawns, do you approach them from the left or right/do they face the left or right when you enter a room?

cedar delta
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Approach them from the left side of the screen

somber frigate
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Unless you mean anvil rng manipulation

somber frigate
slender flint
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just boons and charon ig

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How do I use the gun? This thing sucks

somber frigate
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wdym

cedar delta
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Also, which gun?

somber frigate
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They play very different aside from zag and eris

slender flint
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I heard hestia sucks on low titan blood and that's one I have
I've also tried zag

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about to lose my 3 clear streak because of it
Most enemies reposition too fast for the special to land unless I spawnkill them, bait them into standing still, the room is small, or bait them into walking into it
Attack feels like a watergun in terms of damage
I've seen people do crazy things with it (the blindfolded playthrough) but idk how to do it like them

somber frigate
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so you can move

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then

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otherwise you put zeus on attack if it’s not hestia

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Special isn’t impossible to hit, you just need practice with it, or to replace it with rocket bomb (better dps, easier to hit, faster)

slender flint
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Thanatos hasn't shown up in the house or in the wild in over 5 runs after I got him to 6 hearts
Intentional or bad rng?

slender flint
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hey why did he leave before giving me the thing to unlock his next heart

cedar delta
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He very busy

slender flint
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If I get a duo god interaction before taking the boon, does it lock me out of other boons? I got curse of drowning from ares and didn't know if rerolling still gave me a shot at merciful end

cedar delta
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IIRC you may be able to reroll into ME

sweet brook
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you probably can but no clue since dialogue is involved

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i doubt it's an issue tho

slender flint
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how rare is it/duo boons in general? used 3 rerolls on a random athena and didn't get it

sweet brook
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12% on normal rooms, 10% for minibosses

rose basin
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I can now dash 5 times

sweet brook
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with gods' legacy, that's a flat +10% increase

rose basin
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unfortunately I picked a bad time to take a Chaos boon

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time to fight the Hydra at half movement speed

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with 5 dashes, it's doable

rose basin
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Welp I have aspect of hera, along with 6 bloodstones and Poseidon's cast

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So I basically have an AOE nuke on demand

slender flint
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How much easier would you guys say getting a ||companion|| makes escaping? I do fine and never lose my run to the heroes but by the gods do they drain my death defiances

cedar delta
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5 to 20% easier depending on your skill (more skill = more easier)

somber frigate
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You can use them better but you need them less

cedar delta
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Exactly

somber frigate
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so yeah you get more value but at the same time that value is less… valuable

cedar delta
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Precisely

somber frigate
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so I wouldn’t necessarily say 20% at all

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It does cut out some miniboss interactions which is very helpgul

cedar delta
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I say 20% for more skilled players because they're better at utilizing and following up bursts from companions. Like less skilled players will still have a bit of a slog after deploying their companions, so it eases fights less than it does for better players

somber frigate
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Yeah but I’d be hard pressed to say companions make the game 20% easier

cedar delta
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Oh. Maybe I'm just bad

ocean plover
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i beat the game 3 times in an hour

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so it is true what they say

sweet brook
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what do they say lmao

ocean plover
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someone told me once you beat hades once it's much easier to do it again

sweet brook
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oh yeah definitely

ocean plover
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i mostly have his moveset down i just get clipped by the spin for 40 sometimes

sweet brook
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it do be like that

ocean plover
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that spin is so annoying

inner ridge
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What are the best gods for call?

cedar delta
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Usually Zeus and Dionysus

inner ridge
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thanks

rose basin
rose basin
leaden whale
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Aphrodite is also great for single target damage

inner ridge
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What is the best companion?

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or rather what should i unlock first?

ocean plover
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what spear aspect do you guys recommend

ocean plover
slender flint
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Throwing and charging to your spear is real nice mobility

ripe tendon
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What are the conditions for Sisyphus to spawn? Is it COMPLETELY random?

slender flint
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The damage buff you get from it is nice too

slender flint
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When blocking with the shield against redacted, do you aim it at him or clockwise/counterclockwise in the opposite direction of his swing? + Can you block the waves?

rotund quiver
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Hello, all! So I’m new to Hades. Played it a little just to try it out, but now I’m getting back into it to really sink my teeth in. Any advice, setups for a new player and the like are definitely welcome.

rotund quiver
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Zeus Shield?

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How do I get some of the different weapons in the game? I only ask cuz I just reinstalled and have the starting gear.

somber frigate
somber frigate
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you can walk up to them and interact with them after you’ve already selected them to open up the menu

leaden whale
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The main difficult phase for hades is when you bring him below half health in phase 2

somber frigate
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yeah and zeus and dionysus are consistent strong bursts that charge themselves back so

leaden whale
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So you can almost take him out in one hit as soon as his invuln ends

somber frigate
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you’ll can pop a ton of miniguages

leaden whale
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I mostly pick Zeus myself, but picked aphrodite in the last run and it went really well against hades.

somber frigate
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They do great single target dps as well and it’s honestly a lot better than just holding out for a full call

leaden whale
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I usually take the auto call charge boon from Hermes so full gauge cann happen like 3 times in hades fight/

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It is mostly dependant on your build honestly

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Like almost everything in hades.

somber frigate
leaden whale
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Specially if you pick an aspect other than Zeus

somber frigate
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a lvl 0 common dio call is doing 2400 damage over 4 calls which is just under what aphrodites does

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any boost above that

somber frigate
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throws it over and that’s without even considering that dio call recharges itself with the damage proks

leaden whale
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Ok, I admit you were right if that's the case

somber frigate
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15*(5 stacks) * 8(damage ticks per stack) * (4 minicalls)

ocean plover
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does anyone else have problems with saves going missing here?

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also i though poseidon's call was the best

somber frigate
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Minus the “kinda”

ocean plover
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i probably shouldn't ask for techincal advice

somber frigate
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oh

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yeah

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hades tech support and tech fixes exist for a reason

wind tapir
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I can't make a hard hitting build with the heart-seeking bow for the life of me.

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this game is confusing. very determine to learn this game

somber frigate
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Is this just generic bow?

wind tapir
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Im learning. also, Im reading guides here in the discord.
Yes, it's the generic bow

somber frigate
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You’ll want to focus on attack +% then

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Aphrodite has the highest bonus, so typically her

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For hammers you’ll want twin shot > triple shot, if you don’t sed those look for perfect shot, point blank shot, or flurry shot

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make sure you’re dash striking

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Take attack and dash strike boons from chaos if you can

wind tapir
somber frigate
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you’re looking for the typically hyper sprint -> rush delivery from Hermes, for the added damage

somber frigate
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Either way you’ll open aphrodite and zeus’s smouldering air duo for added dps

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(Charges your call by 5% a second, caps guage at 25%, essentially lets you spam out minicalls for high dps

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You can either go for hunter dash (artemis) or tidal dash (poseidon) for more damage on top of that, artemis adding straight to your attack damage, poseidon adding good aoe and damage wherever you dash into, letting you mow down the quick light enemies that might otherwise overrun you

teal flower
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I also really like dionysus cast, it does a lot of damage and can trivialise some later enemies

somber frigate
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It’s something quite random to throw on generic bow though tbh

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And it removes your ability to use boiling blood

wind tapir
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I dont have any weapon aspects , yet.

teal flower
gentle herald
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Chiron bow for the win

final dune
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?

unreal chasm
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The chiron bow hits hard when you dash strike a charged shot into a homing special

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Bonus points if you have daedelus hammers to boost dmg or Artemis for crits

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Without titan blood for the chiron bow, the special is only really good for crowd control or else you gotta treat it like a shotgun and get up close by dashing towards your target

final dune
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it doesnt really hit hard ever at all

unreal chasm
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I mean yea I also have issues with good dps using the bow. I'm still relatively early in my run having only gotten one win with fists, shield, and rail

final dune
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you're probably having dps issues cause u use chiron

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which is the lowest dps aspect in the game

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i think

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would there be anything lower

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no idts

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maybe hidden sword

somber frigate
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I think

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Because at least you can use chiron like discount zagbow

final dune
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those are not that

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ME

leaden whale
somber frigate
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It’s been a while

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I was thinking of anything aside from ME for dps

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And I forgot that zeus fists exists as well

leaden whale
pine stream
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Hello ! I've a question about Nectar. When i give some to chyron or some other carachers, they give me a "heart", what is this "Heart" ?

somber frigate
leaden whale
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Unless you meant like zeus boon on fist

leaden whale
final dune
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zap fist is not real build

somber frigate
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It’s _•~

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No where near ME

final dune
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fists already suck

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not doing a good build is like real real suck

somber frigate
leaden whale
hollow hull
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Zap is just fds and if your aspect plays ME or fds, it doesn’t exist

leaden whale
hollow hull
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🙏

final dune
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it sucks

leaden whale
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It is literally the highest dps in the game

final dune
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dawg

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you do not know anything

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that's the most insane thing i've ever heard

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are you trolling

leaden whale
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Ok some heavily optimised builds might go higher fair

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But ME is fairly easy to achieve.

final dune
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no actually are you trolling

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this is insane

leaden whale
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I swear I am not

final dune
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ok then maybe get like any build knowledge at all

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here hold on

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here you go

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just for reference

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just so we're clear

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gilgamesh has no sub30 dads

hollow hull
final dune
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ME is an insanely high requirement build

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and it is still not really that good

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especially on an aspect as garbage as gilga

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ok hold on just to clear this up

leaden whale
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What did I just watch?

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Alright fair, I was wrong

cedar delta
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I appreciate this Uchiha-vampire hybrid

sweet brook
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not everyone knows what the meta is and what's good or not

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be more patient

cedar delta
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jazz gonna grow up and become Hades LOL

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Blood and Darkness!

hushed totem
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hey homies im trying to unlock aspect of Gilgamesh but im having trouble getting the dialog with bull boi. is there a way to get guaranteed encounter with him . i swear i used to see him all the time but i never encounter him anymore

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always get the butterfly boss now

cedar delta
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No guarantee, unfortunately

hushed totem
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when should i bail out ?

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32-33?

cedar delta
hushed totem
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ooh looking at it as a range makes it clearer

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cheers

slender flint
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For Achilles spear, do I take the mirror thing that gives me 3 casts or the one that regenerates casts? Usually run hunting blades or crystal clarity

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I’d prefer to rely less on boon rng

sweet brook
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Stygian soul is more rng reliant bc you want more casts from chaos

mortal sapphire
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I have a question guys. Achilles wont give me the right dialogue (and yes i have them both at 6 hearts) and i had the dialogue with patroclus where he tells achilles to risk it all, and i had the dialogue with achilles where he says he needs to think for a bit. My problem is, that he just doesnt give me the dialogue. ( I have beaten hades 8 times now and have had like 30 failed runs cuz i just turned it up to heat 57 or smth like that)

mortal sapphire
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is there a reason he doesnt say it or am i just unlucky

cedar delta
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Most likely just unlucky

mortal sapphire
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ffs its been 4 hours

hushed totem
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does Thanatos cheat in the kill count minigame so that he always gets atleast 1 i swear he just one shot a mob

cedar delta
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All his mob kills are one-shots! But they take a long, long time to go off

hushed totem
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it was instant

upbeat abyss
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just very difficult

hushed totem
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might have just marked him offscreen

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or out of los

cedar delta
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That's normal 👍

slender flint
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39th escape attempt, <30 hours, I got my 10th clear :D

lucid portal
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I got 2 of the titan blood and im not sure what its for

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theres also a trade where i spend 1 for 200 gemstones, is it worth?

cedar delta
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Noooo absolutely not unless you literally have no use for the blood (which doesn't seem to be your case)

outer kraken
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My rule for everything you collect- If you havent been told everything it does, dont use it until then.

slender flint
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I did ares's favor and got him all the way to the locked heart, but when he showed up again, I had no option to give him ambrosia. Why?

iron tiger
#

Does "mini-boss" encounter offer better rarity boons, than normal encounter?

cedar delta
#

Did DatMoonGamer unlock the locked heart first?
Yes, Ninomae

slender flint
cedar delta
#

Don't you need to complete the favor (thereby unlocking the locked heart) before you can gift Ambrosia?

slender flint
#

isn't his favor killing 10k enemies

cedar delta
#

Isn't that Ares?

slender flint
#

yeah

#

he appeared and told me "10k enemies gg" as well

slender flint
#

Update: Reddit said after talking to him after claiming the prophecy, I have to talk to him again with my keepsake equipped. I did. Still no unlocked heart. Why?

#

Someone else said it took them dozens of runs after getting the prophecy even with the keepsake equipped

dusty vault
#

Dialogue can be somewhat rng even if there isn't any other "important" dialogue remaining

slender flint
#

ah man

#

I want to farm for nectar and than's ||companion||, is it faster to keep clearing or rush through tartarus and commit die on a spike trap?

#

or if it's just dialogue progression I want, should I keep running the first room and dying?

#

Found some code that lets you increase thanatos spawns
Will doing so mess with the legitimacy of my runs in the security log/achievements/etc?

thin sand
#

hey

#

hades 1 feels much harder then hades 2.

#

I came from hades 2 to hades 1. I am keep dying here every now n then

slender flint
rose basin
#

Huge spoiler Zagreus dies a lot

sweet brook
rose basin
#

One thing I learned is dash strike a lot

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and I mean a lot

#

its the only way to avoid the enemy's attacks while still dealing damage

long merlin
somber frigate
#

And ends up being highest dps

pine stream
#

Hello, what do you people consider the best weapon ?

maiden quail
#

chiron bow

cedar delta
#

Beowulf no contest. Then Hera, Hestia, Eris, Nemesis, Zeus, Achilles, and Guan Yu for various speed and Heat

#

Beowulf is bugged to do ludicrous damage with certain boons and such

timid flame
#

how can i use god call

#

im pressing rt buttom

#

but it doesnt work

#

what should ı do

inner ridge
#

is there a useful guide for spending titan blood?

inner ridge
#

thank you

timid flame
#

how to use titan blood

leaden whale
#

You are welcome

leaden whale
#

Will only be available after you unlock all the weapons

timid flame
#

whats the reveal button im playing on console

leaden whale
#

idk, sorry. I play on pc

#

Check the settings I think

inner ridge
#

I got a legendary and duo boon option. Which one is more rare?

leaden whale
#

Duo boons require specific boons from 2 gods to get

#

But Legendary is just pure rng

#

so it is more rare

faint umbra
#

this is the channel for hades 1, youre probably looking for #h2-discussion :)

raven brook
#

upsi, sry !

loud sail
#

Hi, i've been doing a 100% playtrhough of all the supergiant games, and the one that's causing me more trouble is hades haahahaha, the thing is, how do i unlock the rest of meg's hearts? and hipno's?

#

(sorry if the writing is kinda off, english is not my native)

fathom charm
#

I have 5 Titan blood what weapon aspect should I unlock

#

I currently have none of them

#

I like fists and spear

#

But I can max out the nemesis sword which doesn’t seem bad to me

ocean plover
#

i'd recommend aspect of chiron and hera though, big damage is always fun

slender flint
#

Spear + hunting blades or crystal clarity for practically afk gameplay

fathom charm
#

What about fists though

#

I do have a slight preference

#

The magnetize ones look funny

#

But aren’t rated well on YouTube tier lists

slender flint
#

Idk about fists I main spear
Have you tried merciful end (the duo boon) on fists yet? You will steamroll your enemies

dusty vault
#

Fists best aspect is demeter

#

But yeah they are all pretty same-y for builds

loud sail
dusty vault
#

Talos can be fun if you wanna get it

ocean plover
#

can you unlock secret aspects before you finish the main quest

dusty vault
#

Yeah

ocean plover
#

cool

fathom charm
#

Be gotten two so far

#

I assume you need specific books to trigger them

ocean plover
fathom charm
#

Boons

dusty vault
#

Yeah

slender flint
ocean plover
#

i tried the zeus/poseidon one and it was insane

ocean plover
#

I don't really want advice i just wanna play how i like

slender flint
ocean plover
#

i need to play a game like this way

dusty vault
#

Also if you already found a duo then a codex upgrade should appear in your work orders soon

#

It has a boon list for the gods with the requisites needed to get them

fathom charm
#

Also what’s with the frost grandma

slender flint
#

Don’t worry about it

ocean plover
#

funny cast stuff

slender flint
#

:)

fathom charm
#

She only appears after triggering the hades boss fight?

dusty vault
#

Spoiler both of that but yeah

fathom charm
#

Alright

ocean plover
#

you get a laser

fathom charm
#

Alright thanks

ocean plover
#

i don't know what the optimal build is for it but i tried going full demeter with a touch of athena and chipped hades out with their duo boon

#

and cast

slender flint
#

my keyboard decided to die and now my w key isnt working (had to type this by copy and pasting the w lmao)
I'm in the middle of a fight, what happens if I quit now?

loud sail
#

the game saves everytime you enter an ecounter

dusty vault
#

If you can press quit in the pause menu it should be fine

#

If not is probably gonna delete the run

cedar delta
half marten
#

so i beat everything in hades 2 without ever playing this game, and then i came to this game to beat it too once i ran out of content in hades 2, but im finding it much much harder. i dont exactly know why im struggling so much, anything particularly different that i should be paying attention to?

cedar delta
#

A lot of weapons rely heavily on dash-strikes, especially the bows

#

Unfortunately, I haven't played Hades 2, so apologies if my advice isn't super pertinent

ocean plover
#

zag plays faster and more aggressive

slender flint
#

After using on my keys on the mirror, do I use the rest on nectar?

hollow hull
slender flint
hollow hull
#

Oh mb I forgot that was a thing

#

After that and all weapons yeah you could convert to nectar

#

You could save a few to reroll the mirror but up to you

dusty vault
steady vigil
#

Hi I have question, is Hades more like adventure lore game or slash how much you want without end?

slender flint
steady vigil
#

there is main story right?

#

and what after that

#

do you just end game

#

or you have like game modes and stuff

slender flint
#

there's a main story, a Real™️ main story, and then post-epilogue
post-epilogue still has a lot of content regarding character relationships

gentle aspen
#

is modding discussion prohibited here

late holly
#

is the game playable at 45 fps?

uneven gale
#

Is there any suggestions on which weapon to upgrade first with titan blood?

cedar delta
#

Check the pinned messages in this channel for cost/benefits per level per aspect per weapon

uneven gale
cedar delta
#

Do you have any specific questions about it?

uneven gale
#

From what I see, I shouldn't upgrade the sword, cuz it has the lowest rating and focus on any other weap first?

steady vigil
#

Best weapon? I really like spear, but bow also seems as intresting option

late holly
#

is the game playable at 45 fps?

steady vigil
cedar delta
novel pivot
#

how do i pass cerberos ? what keep sake to take before him

cedar delta
slender flint
#

I recommend taking the miniboss rooms because those are easier

#

the sack will never spawn in the first room

#

as for what keepsake to take before passing him, skelly's tooth for your first time imo

zealous juniper
bold adder
#

yo

#

does using the necter that you gift to the gods do anything after you alr did it once?

slender flint
#

you need to max out their hearts for a secret endgame thing

bold adder
#

oh alr

#

does it have any other use?

cedar delta
#

You get the following:

  • Cute chibi portrait on their respective keepsakes at max hearts
  • Progress toward epilogue
  • More dialogues, I think
bold adder
#

like does it give higher rarity boons?

#

oh

cedar delta
#

It does not affect boons

bold adder
#

alr ty

sweet brook
#

no the keepsakes do give a small rarity boost

slender flint
#

At what titan blood should I use the guandao? 4? 5? The build guide says it sucks at low blood.

sweet brook
#

it's just that no one uses the keepsakes for the boost

sweet brook
#

something something "just dont get hit lol"

slender flint
#

ik

novel pivot
#

how do i pass hades ?

sweet brook
#

realistically, just use it at whatever level you feel comfortable with

#

guan yu kinda sucks without the right hammers

slender flint
#

I just want to do the prophecy real quick and then work on making it good later
should be fine if I take stubborn defiance and a cast build

#

on second thought idk if casts are decent with it

novel swift
#

Cast build on Guan Yu?

slender flint
#

got achillespilled
Special build ig

sweet brook
#

i mean it doesnt buff casts but you can still build towards casts if you want bc some of the builds just play itself

#

namely hunting blades

slender flint
#

hunting blades = instant win

novel swift
#

Yeah, CS on guan yu is pretty strong

cedar delta
#

CS Guan Yu can be optimized a tad, but you can just as easily spam CS special

sweet brook
#

cuick spin

novel pivot
#

second life noooo , betrayed

bold adder
#

woah

#

demeter is op

#

i got the regular attack and the dash one

novel pivot
bold adder
#

and i killed the bone hydra like it was nothinh

novel swift
#

On what weapon

bold adder
bold adder
novel pivot
novel swift
#

Do you have double edge?

bold adder
bold adder
novel swift
#

Hammer for sword

bold adder
#

oh

#

no i didnt

#

oh wait

#

actually i did

novel pivot
bold adder
#

mb

#

i did

sweet brook
#

no matter the outcome

bold adder
#

i also got hermes more dash in a row thing

sweet brook
novel swift
#

Yeah double edge is super strong

sweet brook
#

double edge

#

the only good sword hammer

novel swift
#

real

bold adder
#

i almost got the hit heal thing

#

but na

#

the hp thing

#

takes too much

novel swift
#

good choice, Cursed slash is super weak

bold adder
#

ye figured lol

#

how do i get the last upgrade thing for the sword anyway?

#

like where u put titan blood

#

the wiki said when i use 5 blood it would mean to talk to that lady

#

but i did

#

and nun happened

novel pivot
#

do u get only 1 blod 4 comleting a bos with 1 weapon ?

#

found about god mode 2 runs ago Q-Q

bold adder
bold adder
#

oh

#

it makes it easier

#

;-;

#

takes out the fun lol

#

i love me a challenge

novel pivot
#

not if u fought 4 2 months and just now got to the snow plane

bold adder
#

jkjk lol

novel pivot
bold adder
#

oh rip

#

i played the game for like 2 days when i first bought it

novel pivot
bold adder
#

then foregot

#

now im playing it fr now

bold adder
#

i do like 3 rounds over like 2 days

#

but its bc i gotta do stuff

#

job and school yk

novel pivot
#

same

#

Q-Q

bold adder
#

sis

novel pivot
#

sis

bold adder
#

i have so many ap tests next week

#

oh mb

novel pivot
#

i a degree next month my 40 page is at 2 (the title)

bold adder
bold adder
#

im taking 7 ap classes out of my 8

#

next year its 9

#

ap

#

😭

#

also

novel pivot
#

rest in peace thy soul

bold adder
#

its online this year

novel pivot
#

next to zagreus

cedar delta
#

9 classes per day goodness

bold adder
#

so the test

#

i do way better with paper testing

#

especially since i can get around the testing site

#

i was playing coolmath during it

#

don say nun lol

#

i finished everything so it was at the end

bold adder
novel pivot
#

i think i have to test while talking , idk how to express it, 12 clases in 1 exam

bold adder
#

oh dang

novel pivot
#

i know nothing

bold adder
#

the ap site

#

legit

#

gives the keybind to escape

#

without messing with the test

#

i thought it was funny

#

i showed my proctor

#

bro busted out laughing

slender flint
#

7 ap classes???

#

damn what college you aiming for

bold adder
#

didnt say nun either

bold adder
slender flint
#

3.8

cedar delta
#

I'm imagining your English teachers crying right now LOL (no offense)

bold adder
slender flint
slender flint
#

it's a heavy hit to your hp but in return you become immortal

bold adder
#

she alr finished crying

#

when i corrected her grammer in class

#

with admin in the room

#

:)

#

she was mean to me untill i did that LOL

#

yeah its where i win by default

#

lol

#

i dont do that normally

#

but she decided to make an example out of me bc im 6'4

#

so i said

#

get rekt

cedar delta
bold adder
#

ok question

#

im at zues orb

#

there are 3 epic

#

there is a cast, a call or a revenge damage

#

which should i choose

#

revenge it is

slender flint
cedar delta
#

Thanks

slender flint
#

If I took a hit at all, I'd just whack them between their attacks and heal back to full

bold adder
#

whats the best companion?

cedar delta
#

Maybe I'm misremembering my experiences with it at lower heats

#

Battie's the best companion bar none

bold adder
#

alr

#

u fr?

#

idk if ur joking

last plinth
#

hello

sweet brook
#

battie is def the best

#

by far

slender flint
#

Mort does more damage but some bosses move out of his aoe before he strikes

bold adder
#

alr ty

last plinth
#

can someone help me, I don't know how to create treats for unlocking new familiars in hades 2

sweet brook
#

bruh

last plinth
#

sorry

bold adder
#

it doesnt say

sweet brook
#

from meg

bold adder
#

yeah but what do i do to get it?

sweet brook
#

give her ambrosia

bold adder
#

oh

#

alr ty

#

whats the best way to give it to her? like idk if its in the fighting area or what?

sweet brook
#

in the house

#

which is the only way to give it to her anyways lmao

bold adder
#

oh ok

slender flint
#

man I tried getting than's companion first because he doesn't show up often, 30 runs later meg and than are both at the locked heart because mf hasn't shown up in nearly 10 runs

harsh iris
#

Finally got arounnd to playin hades. Gettin my ass kicked, but I keep getting distracted with all the awesome art

bold adder
#

for the gloves

#

whats the best hammer upgrade

sweet brook
#

breaching cross

#

deleting armor is good

bold adder
#

k

sweet brook
#

long knuckle is also good for safety

bold adder
#

alr bet ty

sweet brook
#

if youre on demeter fists, kinetic launcher for a shorter special animation and more range/damage is good

#

explosive upper is also a straight up 100% boost for the charged upper so it's hella chunky too

bold adder
#

bro

#

thats cool

bold adder
#

but bro

#

i got zeus special attack at epic rarity

#

and

#

it destroys

#

with gloves

#

bro-

bold adder
#

yay me i got another diamond

loud sail
#

do i really need to farm the 100 nectar ??

#

and the 25000 darkness?????

bold adder
#

i got another ambrosaia now too

#

same run lol

#

ima be mad if i finish for the first time with gloves

#

bc

#

it takes way more effort with gloves lol

#

nope

#

died as he was at 2nd life and almost ded

unreal chasm
#

Gloves didn't feel like they were terribly hard to use, but I guess I used god mode and had 50% defense on the first win. Final boss does so much goddamn damage normally

slender flint
#

did not like fists until I realized they slap with merciful end

uneven gale
#

When will I be able to use my Titan Blood?

dusty vault
#

after you unlock all weapons, do an extra run

#

then check back the placeholder of where your weapon is in the courtyard

uneven gale
#

ah tks

slender flint
#

I have to feed ambrosia to the companion and the guy that gave it to me separately?

cedar delta
#

Yes because Zagreus is the type of guy who'll feed his stuffed animals

slender flint
#

I've got ||demeter|| and arty to 6 hearts, do I just keep talking to them until they give me a favor quest?
nvm the guide says ||demeter|| is post-epilogue and up to the locked heart counts

strong warren
#

hi, i cannot seem to upgrade my weapons despite unlocking all of them? When i equip a weapon, the option to reveal and upgrade does not show up. am i missing some hidden requirements or something?

final dune
#

do another run

cedar delta
#

Then talk to Skelly, boyo

strong warren
#

alright, thanks

slender flint
#

Should I hold off on the ambrosia? Saw Thanatos with a ❗ but I ||gifted him ambrosia, he flipped out, fled, and now I'm thinking I'm moving too fast?|| Will I have this issue with Meg?

#

And everyone else after I reach the ambrosia stage, for that matter

stoic socket
#

No, he’s just a tsundere

#

It’s just how he copes with affection

desert totem
#

what are the requirements to getting charged volley, chain skewer, charged skewer, and quake cutter

final dune
#

zagbow or hera

#

zagspear or hades

#

non achilles spear

#

non dem fist

spice tangle
#

Hello everyone!

#

Quick question

#

By 'End Boss Onward', does that mean anything that happens after beating the Final Boss or anything that happens after Greece?

sweet brook
#

right after styx

#

so like right before beating the final boss

spice tangle
#

Got it

inner ridge
#

If a chaos gate shoes up but for example i could go for poseidon boon also will it safe the poseidon boon for my next god boon option after i enter chaos gate or will it be random again?

#

Because sometimes i want to take the chaos gate but the perfect god boon apears also. I skip chaos gate because i dont want to miss on the god boon. Feels so bad sometimes haha

placid arrow
#

guys how can i get skilled?

naive bear
#

Practice

novel pivot
#

first thin i got is huge catch :3

ocean plover
#

chaos mostly gives stat ups and resource rewards but the extra cast/death defiance is nice

#

if you have an olympian boon in your face i'd rather just take it than gamble

inner ridge
#

thanks mate

dusty vault
#

I often take chaos but is a more speedrunning mentality

ocean plover
#

i'm not really good at the game though

dusty vault
#

And idk your weapon so idk how much you wanted pos to show up

ocean plover
#

i just like mindless key spam mixed with cool story

dusty vault
#

Cuz if you were using pos keepsake for example chances are that pos will show up soon again

slender flint
#

Ex: I run cast builds on Achilles spear so I always take chaos gate in the hopes of +1 cast

inner ridge
#

ye i get it

#

it was an eris run

dusty vault
#

(unless is aspho where too many skips can easily lead to skipping your keepsake lmao)

inner ridge
#

i wanted tidal dash

#

and got it without keepsake

dusty vault
#

Oh yeah right choice for pos then lmao

inner ridge
#

cast didnt feel really useful for that

dusty vault
#

Special dmg is nice but tidal dash is too good

inner ridge
#

how long does it take to max every aspect

naive bear
#

is it worth restarting since i havent played in half a year and forgot all the story

inner ridge
#

or rather what is the highest heat i need to win for enough titan blood

inner ridge
dusty vault
#

If you do all bounties with all weapons + prophecies you are still short of maxing everything iirc

#

Need to trade ambrosia/fishing

inner ridge
#

uuf

#

okay

#

that sounds hard haha

#

how do i unlock the special aspects?

dusty vault
inner ridge
#

Or better how did you guys spend your titan blood?

#

I spend all i have in zeus shield, hera, Achilles, eris, nemesis

#

but i feel like thats stupid haha

dusty vault
#

You pretty much unlocked all the meta aspects lmao

inner ridge
#

yep

#

im saw that titan blood guide

dusty vault
#

For new files I just dump the first bloods into random aspects to get the hidden aspects unlocked, then max one of a random weapon I like so I can steamroll through the bounties and then lvl up others

inner ridge
#

and just bought all s tier

dusty vault
#

And my first file I just cheated in blood

inner ridge
#

hahahahhaha

slender flint
#

do you guys have braindead easy cannot-possibly-lose-with-this shield build for new players?

#

like merciful end or crystal cast/hunting blades but for shield

#

chaos + all the zeus?

dusty vault
#

Do zeus shield instead but that works

ocean plover
#

and stack on some debuffs for the mirror effect

#

make your own better blade rift

hollow hull
#

Higher skill floor than the beo though

slender flint
#

Should I max out my favorite aspect (achilles) first or scatter my titan bloods to unlock all hidden aspects asap

hollow hull
#

Whatever you want

#

There’s more than enough blood in the game. I have like 60 extra rn.

cedar delta
#

Infinite blood!

faint umbra
#

i think im sitting at like 90 now lmao

cobalt zenith
#

What's the little gem looking thing with a face that's under nectar?

fast stag
#

Nvm

#

Misread it

cobalt zenith
#

Nope

#

I can't send a sc

#

It's not ambrosia, nectar, gems, darkness, diamond, keys, or titan blood

#

It's something else

#

I have 4 of them no clue what it is

cedar delta
#

Message a Discord bot with the screenshot, then copy+paste the link here

dusty vault
#

Copy link not copy message link

cedar delta
#

Sorry. The image link

cobalt zenith
#

Hang on

dusty vault
#

On phone click the image, 3 dots at top right then share

dusty vault
#

Oh the rerolls

#

Is the last mirror skill

robust escarp
#

Its the door/boon reroll

dusty vault
#

Fated authority/persuasion yeah that ^

cobalt zenith
#

Ohhhhh

robust escarp
#

Thats a 20 sided die

cobalt zenith
#

Haha I saw a face

dusty vault
#

If you don't have the skill yet you can also get them from the fated keys work upgrade

robust escarp
#

Understandable i think if i never knew a 20 sided die i wouldnt know what that is

cobalt zenith
#

Thanks

dusty vault
#

Which gives a dice each time you pick up a key

cedar delta
#

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

worn coyote
#

my bad

cedar delta
faint umbra
#

i deleted it, just pointing u up ⬆️ to the hades 2 category

inner ridge
#

on what heat level did you guys farm darkness?

#

or is there a better way to get more darkness?

cedar delta
#

9 heat (FO2 and EM2) is optimal for speeding through runs

hollow hull
#

you'll get the darkness, slower, but you'll have a better time

inner ridge
#

i just want to get my lasr mirror upgrades

hollow hull
#

FO2, and EM2 works

inner ridge
#

but i play with my diffretn weapons always one heat higher and win most of the time so i get like 0 darkness

hollow hull
#

oh yeah so if you don't advance in heat you'll get the darkness

inner ridge
#

thanks for the help

bold adder
#

bro i just got the best boon ever-

#

it makes all my future boons epic or higher

#

nothing lower

#

bro

#

ima be op

desert totem
#

if i do runs on heat higher than the heat level that is required can i do the lower levels and get their bounty rewards? or how does it work

dusty vault
#

So if you only need 2 but do like 5 heat, you'll claim the 2 heat bounties forst

#

Then if you repeat the pact you'll claim heat 3 and so on until it catches up

desert totem
#

uhh

#

i should just immediately do the skelly pact thing then

hollow hull
#

If you want yeah

unreal chasm
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What's the best way to transition from God mode on to God mode off? Using the enemy dmg boosting heat to counter the dmg reduction? I just have a lot of trouble avoiding damage from the bosses of Elysium and Styx

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Chill builds to learn enemy attack patterns?

faint umbra
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first idea sounds like a good way

unreal chasm
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Occasionally I screw up and stand right in front of those witches that shoot bullet hell projectiles and lose half my health bar D:

cedar delta
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You have to learn how to time your dashes right, so maybe it could help to watch the better players and see when and how they dash

unreal chasm
cedar delta
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If you're not killing most enemies in seconds at the moment, it might be good to learn how to create good builds too. The best defense is a good offense

unreal chasm
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I can reliably dispatch of enemies with the fists, sword, and rail, but struggle with the spear and bow (it's not a big problem with the shield)

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The spear I probably need to try a better build. The bow I just need to better time the power shots, though I still have trouble with crowd control when using it...

pulsar aspen
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Is one of the weapons like noticeably better or is it mostly just preference?

dusty vault
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Mostly preference for pretty much the entire game

pulsar aspen
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Alr

tacit urchin
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any tips for someone like me playing Hades? This is my first roguelike that I've ever played and I've played transitor from these guys before

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been wanting to get into this game when it got discounted

dusty vault
slender flint
cedar delta
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Read the tooltips on boons and such. Reaaaaad

hollow hull
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Don’t spread yourself too thin in terms of boons. Get a god or two and focus on boosting a few sources of damage

mellow cradle
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Recommended Mirror effects for a decent player?

bold adder
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ok so ive put over 5 titan blood in my sword and talked to nyx but i still cant get the last aspect...

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does she need to be given necter for it to work?

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also what does the admin room do

dusty vault
dusty vault
bold adder
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hidden spear?

dusty vault
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4th aspect

bold adder
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uh

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no just the first 3

dusty vault
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You need that first before any other 4th aspect

bold adder
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how do i get it

dusty vault
bold adder
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alr

bold adder
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or whatever its called

dusty vault
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Acquire the Fated List, unlock at least 5 other aspects, and fight the final boss at least once (outcome is irrelevant). Achilles should tell you more in a conversation soon after that.

bold adder
dusty vault
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Get used to dash strike power shot rhythm

bold adder
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alr

dusty vault
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Grab aphro attack, twin/triple shot ideally as first hammer then perfect/point blank/flurry/explosive

bold adder
dusty vault
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Yeah

bold adder
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alr just making sure

dusty vault
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Just dash then hold atk

bold adder
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ty

dusty vault
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You'll notice if it's the dash strike cuz zag holds the bow differently

mellow cradle
dusty vault
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And the charge is faster

dusty vault
mellow cradle
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Dash strikes are pretty weak tho???

dusty vault
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They charge faster

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For a bit less base dmg

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And you also get the benefit of reposition/any dash strike bonuses you can get

mellow cradle
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Only time I'd use dash is for the sword because 140% increase in damage is crazy (i think I got the math right)

dusty vault
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Pretty much every weapon dash strikes

dusty vault
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Yeah

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Chaos dash strike bonuses can go up to 100%+ at epic for example

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Also going back to explosive the trick is to just not bother with power shots all the time

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Explosive amps up the dmg a lot

bold adder
dusty vault
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And release when zag flashes

bold adder
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k

dusty vault
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I suggest practicing at skelly for a while

mellow cradle
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So in that case would flurry/explosive work or is that combo illegal?