#h1-for-new-players
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how meny hours do you have on hade?
130ish
i have 26
800 I think?
gotdamn
But a fair amount has been afk
ho hell nah
(switch moment)
i'v beaten the game like 3 or 4 times
~350
And I started playing a few months ago
I’d probably be in the thousands if I got it at release lol
What does Charm do on bosses? Does it work on last boss?
I saw that it interrupted boss 3, does it interrupt last boss's attacks/spells if it procs?
does the wretched broker have any deals that turn diamonds into titan blood?
no
but you can trade 2 diamonds into 1 ambrosia and trade that into 1 titan blood
so like yesn't lol
I just bought the game recently, and the game is amazing. But I just can't stop dashing
Do you mean it's bugged or do you mean you have a habit?
A curse!
Dashing is a core mechanic. There are some builds where dashing is a significant portion of your dps.
I have like 500 hours on Switch and probably 1/3 of my runs use Athena dash because it became a habit (or crutch, if you look at it a bit pessimistically).
Yeah I don't think there's much change on how often you dash
You just apply them better 
"divine dash is so good" > "divine dash is a crutch and shouldn't be used > "divine dash is so good" pipeline
It's a great way of applying a debuff if you're doing the two-debuff thing.
Probably the easiest to apply. You have to get close, but you're also invulnerable.
I mean you're invulnerable with any dash
Aphro's is prob better as you already have the curse
That's true, but Athena dash has longer iframes.
No??
It is safer by making deflected attacks no longer hurt you
But it doesn't extend your iframes
I'm 99% sure that at some point it had extended invulnerability, but maybe that was EA or I could be wrong.
I've heard it used to decrease dash distance
It could be deflecting attacks nullifies the entire animation, so it feels like you're invulnerable longer.
Either way, I think Aphro dash is only good if your main DPS boon also applies an effect. But since Aphro is so strong on attack/special/cast, I usually prefer to put it on there and thus doubling up with dash is pointless.
that's why the real answer is just play with fam favs
Depends on heat.
Or that your build already runs into the gods with nat curses
Well I guess they're both the same heat. Man I haven't played in too long!
New players need to learn how to argue pointlessly, it's a core mechanic of Hades chat.
(jking of course) (mostly)
You got me
How many rooms, on average, is a run?
I usually have 49-51 depending on tunnel length
hey newbies
if youre struggling to dodge
it maybe bc youre playing at the normal 60 fps
tweak the display, plug in yo charger(not recommended for iphones)
so that it goes into above 60 fps mode
the controls and input is better for some reason
Do the trinkets that guarantee a god reset after a boss?
As in if I don't change it, will the first boon be from that god again?
Nope, it works once and then never again for that run
The rarity improvement still lasts though
Is that 5diamond extra area an "extra" room or does it take the spot of another room if you use it?
wut, is it the room with the fountain
where you can can get the reward and heal?
skips don't add a room unless you take them in chambers 12, 22, or 34
Can the mark from crit happen on just 1 target if there's no other
Skip as in chaosgate or the 5diamond thingy area?
Also why those specifically 😮
that’s the last chamber before a boss
so instead of getting a shop/free reward -> boss you get chaos/erebus -> shop/free reward -> boss
no skip
has anyone played hades mobile?
Does the "special speed" boon from hermes increase the speed of the zeus-version of the shield weapon procs its damage
Or just its movement
just the animation of releasing it and retrieving it if i heard correctly
so basically it sucks on zeus shield
a bit spoilers here
yall newbies lucky ya aint need to face the Ceberus Santa hiroshima
I just dont understand the difference between Death defiance and Stubborn defiance on the mirror. Which one is better and whats the difference?
The difference is you can get a total of 3 Death Defiances from the mirror but only one Stubborn Defiance. However, Death Defiances are meant to last you the entire run, while Stubborn Defiance only lasts for one encounter, then refreshes when you enter the next if you lost it. SD also heals for less.
If you're asking this, stick to Death Defiances
Each accomodates a certain style of play, the first is for a more safe approach while the latter accomodates more recklessness
Stubborn is not for everyone and needs a lot more getting used to in order to properly benefitting from it, so sticking with the regular Death Defiance is best imo
I still dont get the difference, Im sorry
Like one is restored everytime you enter another room?
Yeah
Stubborn can be used once per room
A very simple but also kinda missing a lot of context generalization is
Death defiance = better for bosses
Stubborn = dying way too much in normal rooms
thats a perfect analogy for me, thanks
Stubborn is great until you get to a boss where you need to survive for more than one DDs worth of damage.
In general you want to start with Death Defiances because without any added difficulty you should find it's the bosses that block progress. You'll understand what I mean by added difficulty later.
The general formula I use is SDs when learning the game, back to DDs when heroes and end boss are the biggest challenges, and then back to SDs at ||32+ heat||
Also, remember that you can recycle darkness from the mirror and re-spec it for 1 key.
are some gods boons harder to find? I have had a lot of runs and never seen ||demeter || yet
she doesn’t start showing up until ||you get to the surface for the first time||
probably not too long tbh
you don’t actually have to escape the underworld, if you’ve done a lot of runs you’re probably not far off
I mean I defeated the ||hydra||
Opinion on DD vs SD is kind of a bell curve.
True beginner: “Mirror of Night? Death defiance? Stubborn defiance? What?”
Beginner: “Yeah stubborn defiance is pretty good because I need that extra life for every room”
Midgame player: “Why would I use Stubborn Defiance? I’d rather have 3 lives for the bosses, I hardly ever die in regular rooms”
Endgame content: “Why would I even use Death Defiance, I would loss my run after like 3 mistakes”
Uber endgame content: “What’s a mirror of night?”
Yeah that’s ~ half way to seeing ||her|| then
Ish
Not really
Maybe. I was always getting blocked by bosses even early on so DDs seemed a better choice immediately. Getting 2 is easy enough plus the collar
stubborn was definitely the choice for me before i got my 3rd DD
but then around when i got my 3rd DD i also started getting to ||hades|| and realized one defiance wasn't going to cover it
does anyone know how to hide text for spoilers?
you can also start your message with /spoiler which marks the whole message
ohh bet thank you guys
is there any way to cap the fps? like an launch parameter for steam?
from a quick search i found a video saying you can do this by placing '+fps_max60' (for example) in the launch options parameter, worth a shot 
Will do, Thanks Cosmic
looking into it further i'm less confident about that because that command seems to be engine specific
(like somenoobdying said vsync should cap it at 60 iirc, hopefully that's a somewhat helpful limit
)
(and on further reading, i actually think the framerate might be capped by default, and a launch parameter exists to unlock it)
any guides / tierlists esp for boons
there's not really a tier list for boons since it's pretty build dependent
does the bloodstone comes back with stygyan soul after 5 secs by default?
there is a pinned build guide in #h1-builds-and-combat but it contains some spoilers iirc
they dont "come back" they just regen
so if you miss, after 5 seconds you'll have another back
5 sec at lvl 1 of stygian soul at least
and they regen even if you hit? or only when missing?
for stygius maybe (?)
altho idk which weapons r easier to use as a newbie
coronacht by any chance ?
You can stop mid run right?
If I close the game it just takes me back to the arsenal?
If you press give up you lose all progress for the run
If you press quit you can start where you left off
This is such a funny way to put it lol
No it’s uber build dependent
Stygius though
could
as a newbie I would say
bow and shield
they got OP upgrades
Minotaur rush + the one shooting upgrade
Which may be a bit of a headache for newer players
Charged shot is hands down the best shield hammer
Only ||one aspect|| doesn’t take it automatically if it sees it and even then it’s the 2nd best option
tho I would recommend newbies learn to play spear and sword
its actually fun dashing around
I would recommend newbies just play every weapon
real
You dash around on shield & bow too?
and, "pre-upgrade" them
best strat when youre starting out is do what dark thirst tells you to
If you play bow without constantly dashing it’s pain and agony
Dash striking my beloved
well you did say something abt dashing is a bother for new players
Yeah but at the same time
It’s a headache but how are you going to learn otherwise
And also, it’s more of “dash -> dash strike -> dash -> dash strike” then pure dash dash dash
You catch a break
nah, I'd spam 2 dashes
why use 2 dashes at the same time unless you need to? It’s bow, you can’t just dashstrike dashstrike
btw uh for spear I heavily recommend new players "blood-upgrading" it as, the damn thing is hella under powered
you can dash strike -> dash strike but you can’t dashstrike dashstrike if you get what I mean
It’s just upgrading btw
although I don’t assume players to have unlocked ||aspects|| just yet & when they refer to weapons by their name rather than the ||aspect|| it makes me think they haven’t
am i supposed to stock up keys to unlock all weapons to get hera bow or save those for revealing the mirror first
eh
just do it however you please
it's not a huge amount of keys to do either
I'd go for weapons first then upgrades just because then you can start figuring out what you like to play earlier
and then you can start spending your titans blood
ah
||now that I have all upgrades asking for diamonds, will the gem be useful again or I can exchange them?||
You need gems for the rest of the cosmetics but
Not for any mechanical boosts
holy cow the shotgun bow is insane even without hera
I mean twin & triple shot r best bow hammers (except on Hera) for a reason
2* & 3* the base damage just works
i was spamming aphro q lol
Ohhhh
the special?
Idk what q is on keyboard
Shotgunning with special is certainly one of the way you can play bow
what do i prioritise frm the contractor
Work orders are upgrades, everything else is cosmetic
what work orders do you have available
I don’t really have a guide for the order on all the work orders it’s just really wing it based off what’s avai-

yeah keys for rerolls r important but idk if they’ve even got rerolls yet
they probably don’t
for now im p sure there's more n i just haven't hit the prereqs
so im gonna save ig
thats true
also why does the sword suggest i can +20% dark by equipping it
thats dark thirst
one random weapon has that every time
and you get 20% more darkness on that run if you use the weapon
mmm
am i supposed to just utilise it every run then
or wld it fk w muscle memory
it'd also mean i gotta learn all the optimal boons for each weapon
well
youll probably want to do that anyway
you get separate boss rewards with each weapon
so its good to know how to use all of them
up to you, it does help but you dont have to
eh ?
like
you can get each boss reward once with each weapon
one titan blood from meg with spear
one with shield
one with bow
etc
ahhh
honestly this is a good feature lol
encourages players to master the whole game
I mean…. 2 things
- it’s not really per weapon, it more per aspect
- it’s not exactly per aspect either, it’s more of the qualities of the aspect that tell you what boons r good
like anything that hits fast for lower damage is going to want flat damage sources on them, like zeus, dio or ares
ares always wants athena to combo with him on the special of the weapon, and on dash, so you can find merciful end and just dashstrike into everything
dio always wants aprhodite on special (or attack, if chiron), to find low tolerance for more stacks
Zeus just wants more zeus boons
and that’s going to stay the same regardless of weapon
that’s just how it comes together
A +% ain’t going to work as well on rail where it adds like 5 damage per bullet compared to lightning adding a minimum of 10 (and aoe)
But when you’re attacking once a second with bow for heavy damage, flat damage is adding like 10 to your 50 damage hit, compared to a +% boon adding ~50 more for double
It really comes down to understanding the qualities of the aspects moves & how gods interact with each other rather than (oh heartbreak strike is good on bow because someone told me it is) if you want to be able to develop the knowledge

hm currently i've got fiery chthonic boiling n infernal up with 221 dark, do i upgrade anyth yet
not sure whether to stick w infernal or stygian tho
Infernal is typically the play outside of 2 niche cases
Honestly no clue what you can afford it’s been a while
what chaos boons shld i be taking
which r ?
Depends on what you’re focus on
& the curses attached
like when you’re playing zag bow your strike damage is your main damage source, so you look for dstrike & strike boons, check their numbers, then check the curses
An epic dashstrike boon may be leagues more damage than a common strike, but if you’re in tartarus, an enshrouded curse could lead you to a bad start since you can’t make your own decisions @ the part of the game where decisions are the most crucial to forming your build
or maybe your aspect is more build for casts
Then you take extra stones & cast damage
if your weapon has a low base damage strike don’t bothed, go for special +% instead
Rarity always good, obols +% always decent, +max hp is an option if the rest don’t make sense for your weapon &or there aren’t any better curses
hmm
?
also shadow or fiery presence
I’m avoiding mentioning them because 1 is a slight spoiler that you already know of so just click this spoiler: ||trippy flare (dionysus cast) hera||
And then the other one you won’t know for a whileee
That’s ||trippy flare beowulf||
Fiery presence
oh i literally just tried it lmao
was kinda weird grenading w ur cast
ngl i thought one of the niche cases was better hermes odds lmao
and both of what you listed counted as a separate one
Trippy flare not trippy shot
It’s not a grenading
it’s different
distinctions distinctions
oh
and why
Speed reasons: regular rooms are more of your run then boss rooms, & being able to take down enemies in 1 or 2 hits consistently >>>> extra damage on backstab
ah
but up to 50% extra dmg on all mobs if u position right does sound enticing
sounds hard to pull off tho
Eh
Positioning right takes too long
It’d literally be time loss
practically speaking, pulling of a backstab takes too much effort
You all ready have +75% on the most impactful hit
and on a lot of things it doesnt really matter
how do u play aegis
what're u gonna be doing the most
poseidon's most valuable boon is the dash ?
Depends on the aspect but typically yes
jesus christ zeus shield is hard to control
but after changing keybinds it's so braindead lmao
it's flippin broken
i beat the hydra w it
n this is like my 5th run
It takes time yeah
Is there a limit on how many boons you can have?
nay
this is a real all you can eat buffet
but similar boons cant stack (obviously)
Wait what
Apart from "replaces" don't they all stack
yea that
Got me worried for a sec that my 2chaosgate3+ boon special/attack had all been in vain
damnit i nearly beat theseus
i think bro blocks the shield specials
what do plunder keepsake collection fated list n urns of wealth offer
oh for Theseus
do i buy all of them
sheesh
that sounds fancy
wait wait my boy
have you been using just 1 keepsake
every run
i havent been using ANY
but uk u could just stack shield special boons then get the ares something duo
you get to drink fountain, shop well and keepsake change
I mean ngl if you want to be lazy
I recommend getting the
Ares and Artemis duo combo
focus on Ares cast rift tho
fated list doesnt seem to be related to fountains
i picked doom lmao
Nah the zeus shield should work, I just killed him with it
hmmm
Question: The unshackled 50%+ bonus without boon, does it mean the boons that show automatically on the left and not the extra boons you have to press B to view. Or does it mean any boon at all
Like a chaos bonus or such would count and disable the trinket?
Chaos counts
well any attack buff that has the word "boon" on it works
as it
disable shackle
What the HECK is the point of it if even side-boons disable it? If you can't stack any extra dmg that flat bonus is pathetic compared to what other trinkets can offer
well
it can be upgraded to 100% actually
and yes, it is pathetic
Yeah I was keeping that in mind but even with 100% that's nothing compared to what boons+other trinket does
who do i give nectar to
side-boons dont deactivate shackle
only boons that go in the slots on the side do
main attack, main special and main cast
appntly nectar shld be given to skelly n cerberus first ?
do i give the 3rd to hypnos or smth
or achilles
you can give it to whoever you want
theres keepsakes that are better than others but you can just do whatever you want
What does the immaculate bond do for keepsakes?
Cool sticker in the keepsakes cabinet :p
(it just means you maxed out the hearts with someone)
what build should i be aiming for for spear?
i use achilles aspect and i aim for merciful end
Cast builds is it's strong point
Can do hunting blades (start ares, find/force artemis for attack or smth, get duo)
There's lightning phalanx (athena cast + zeus)
If you don't want a specific cast build you can start tidal dash then pick based on what you get
Stuff like trippy shot/||crystal beam|| also work but you want the stygian soul skill for these
So you can throw more of them instead of waiting for their effect to run out
From there just add dmg through chaos/charon wells
And hermes hyper sprint + rush delivery always works (but lodging casts may want quick reload instead)
Best hammer is flurry jab by far
You can damage the bull even after the bell rings and he goes to leave the area (in the 1v1). Can you theoretically kill him if you had projectiles launched at him as he leaves?
You need a lot of damage overtime stuff but yeah you can
It's not intended though so he just appears
shld i spend 500 on another death defiance or save it for mirrors down the line
It depends on the rest of your mirror and how far you're going each run. The extra DD is good for survivability
Surviving longer = more darkness for other upgrades
also fiery > shadow right
and is it actl commonplace for u to ignore certain gods' boons
since the game seems to restricts ur god pool
Yea for most weapons it is. Shadow is better on Achilles and maybe Chiron but thats mostly it.
Yea you should, that's how you get better builds. Only take what you need, one or two filler gods is fine but dont just take boons because you can
there's a build guide i read that mostly explained the starting gods, but how do u work around after
so like, if u have one god boosting special u can't have another god on that as well ?
Yeah
They don’t
Ah I’m a little ways late
Ad already got to it
i just realised ur the one who wrote the mirror tldr
As shackles biggest fan I’ve got to stick up for it
So what I'm hearing is you play spear by not playing spear
Eh you could do atk builds too ig
Thanks
But cast bonuses are rare, and achilles at max is like 2 epic cast dmg boons
(+150% cast/attack dmg)
And even then lvl 1 achilles is already lvl 5 pos sword/talos
If you want to throw your special go for hidden spear ideally
I'm not sure I like guan yu
I become a glass cannon
I do like using Zeus on attack tho
Is pretty good but yeah, mind the hp
Spin attack becomes Zeus shield special but worse
Did you mention the special builds
Feel free to do
cuz those work on anything that isn’t achilles
Big +% special boons, take explosive launcher, charged skewer, get a big 150 base damage exploding bang
just grab more special boosts from chaos and wherever you can
pretty straight forward
Gun but worse?
Anyways it works you just need to hit the hammers
That should say something
Ideally you rock aphrodite special, zeus strike & either zeus or dio call
I like playing chiron bow with dio special build it requires 0 skill to use.
Yeah chiron is pretty straight forward
Lowest skill floor weapon
The only thing you have to watch for is how slow the special is
that’s going to put you in danger at times
And your lack of aoe potential
Is there ever anything interesting in the garden or can I ignore that area
Ignore
sometimes there's dialog, zag will tell you "should check the garden" if you don't zoom by too fast
wait do atk buffs apply to dash strikes
I mean dash strikes
are just
attack
dash strikes are a type of attack. generally a bonus on attack will apply to dash strikes. a bonus on dash strike will only count for dash strikes, not regular attack
hey boyo
I want you to try this
you hold attack
at the same time you dash twice
its goes like, dash strike dash into spinning
then dash again to extend that spin range
do i upgrade fountains urns or troves first
Can I get an explanation for dummys of this image? https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Athena?file=AthenaUpgradeSolo.png
Hm?
Like I imagine it should make things easier, but it just confuses me more
Im just trying to learn about improving boons and such
What ing you mean
The link just puts the Athena png
Oh wait
God I hate that chart
This?

Yes. Someone recommended those charts to understand the system
Was it reddit
yep
What a surprise
Arrow means that X boon will open Y
So take divine strike/dash/etc > now you can get blinding flash
Priority means the game well, prioritizes those boons over others
So if you have attack and special filled and cast/dadh empty
When you pick up a boon the game will make the first option one of those empty 100% of the time
Tho I need to say
When a god has their curse statis as a t2 boon (boon that needs another to show) they have a 50% to be placed over other boons so I'd still call those priority
If the chart is confusing I'll wait until you have the codex upgrade for the boon list
It highlights what unlocks what much better
Or this
so hera is spam cast > dash atk when u can't
eris is dash into ur special cast n spam > dash away to reload n repeat
You don’t need to dash away to reload
Eris plays really oonga boonga
Take tidal dash and dash into enemies
Lol, You could have started there and save the explanation, thanks for it
Explaining priority is still helpful so I don't mind
Helps when you want to maximize for duos
wait it knock backs even bosses ?
No
Is also good for that
it's the one that uh
Dash + breaking wave = styx begone
gives the dot/0.2 s
It gets to like 75~ dmg at lvl 5
but eris wants a % on special right
Combine that+ eris buff for free dmg
Also yeah
ok so it seems eris wld go like
either zeus or dionysus atk
then poseidon dashes
take a god with a hard hitting special
^
the building is quite punishing
Curse of vengeance?
Yeah
Unless you have rocket, weak application is awkward
i did not run trippy shot just now
And may want to save dash for smth better
Eris is cheaper if that's something
Tbh just do a coinflip if you like both
Or upgrade one, do a run and press give up mid run so you revert the save and test the other
Or just keep playing and get more blood
Aspect of Nemesis
😈
is there a community consensus tho
logically/theoretically speaking
Both are top aspects lmao
Yeah hera strength doesn't matter much on lvls
Enemies will drop the casts if you kill them anyways 
15% isnt crazy broken ig
And bosses you can get quick reload/be fancy and learn wallbug
Shoot aphro cast at specific angle/wall = cast won't lodge
wtf that's crazy
It does take practice, is mostly used for speedrunning
But really
mmm then which is more braindead / easier for newbies
oh
that actl does make sense
And not as intuitive to scale
u could fk urself up lodging ur casts in the wrong mob
ur dps wld plummet like crazy
on top of that there's also bosses
guess it's eris then
but wait
zeus or dio atk
n which special
Zeus is better overall
Zeus
You can go for any % Special. Artemis or Aphro is ideeal
The dash is more important, you should look for Tidal Dash and pick whatever Special you come across
You really really want jolted
which gods r well known for those
Static discharge from zeus
From Zeus
Breaking wave/razor shoals from pos
And prioritize poms into jolted and tdash over attack
If you have arte, hunter's mark/pp/support fire are nice
Aphro can do zeus call into smair
But yeah focus on what dragon said
maybe i shld've given nectar to zeus n artemis lmao
n aphro
oh n keepsake ? appntly cerberus n skelly r good for newbies ?
typically what's the room reward priority
Generally as you get better with dodging, you’ll want to prioritize control over your build
Kinda whatever works for the build
Mini boss rooms will be faster generally
Skill rooms will also generally be faster since they only spawn armored enemies
wasn't armour a bad thing
Well
I’m talking from a speedrunning perspective, where fewer enemies is better since you’re probably instakilling them anyways
Eris does fine with more enemies bc of Zeus attack
But honestly even for learning, it’s easier for me to keep track of a few enemies rather than a bunch
If you are looking for other time save, chaos/fountains/shop are free
Chaos isn’t great on eris unless you get special damage boost
So just take the least bad curse
For blue laurel rewards, keys, nectar, gems, darkness are the generally prioritized order
oh
wait but i alw took chaos by default lmao

Yeah it’s a nice timesave but I’m just saying the buffs aren’t that great
Rarity/hp still decent
So take it, but if there’s another skip to choose between, don’t feel obligated to take chaos bc it won’t make or break your run
True
eh its more like
you should decide for yourself
I just cant decide which ||weapon to unlock or upgrade
||
No need to spoiler that. I assume because you are talking about upgrades, you mean weapon aspects, not the base weapons themselves. Which of the base aspects are you having most fun with?
I meant aspects and upgrades as well
I like everything but the sword and the cannon, maybe the shield too
If you like the fists, Demeter aspect is good. For spear, Achilles aspect is good.
If you dislike the rail due to reloading being awkward (often the case on controllers) remember you can remap the reload button.
just feels weird, I think is the lack of nockback and the low amount of bullets
The Hestia aspect fixes that, but only after 3 or more levels, so it's an expensive investment.
With Hestia you're just constantly reloading and dash striking
Maybe unlock Hestia and give it a go. Also put boons on the special with Eris rail, then you don't even care about bullets.
Rail is one of the better weapons generally.
But also Demeter fists.
I'm assuming you've not unlocked any of the 4th aspects yet.
Hidden aspects.
Nop, I guess I could. I have like 6 or so bloods
If you quit a run without dying or saving you go back to the courtyard. So you can unlock something, even upgrade it, and try a run providing you give up.
Don't leave the courtyard to go back into the bedroom though, that will save too.
When you get back in the courtyard the weapon will go back to being locked (the state it was in at the last save when you last entered the courtyard).
So go to courtyard, unlock weapon to test, start run, have fun but give up before you die.
Don't quit out the game either as that's a save, give up the run.
I feel like Demeter is op haha 😆
if artemis/aphro is on the eris special who's gonna be the last god you'd take
?
doesnt matter that much
wb trippy shot heh
bad
double nuke
u want boiling blood
i went the farthest on blade w the lifesteal boon lmao
eris didnt get me to theseus
ur much more prone to dmg going in n staying still w only ur dashes to save u
wat
bruh why is it that ur forced to take the boon on the vry first room
how do u fix ur godpool
usually you'd start out using a keepsake so the first god is who you want them to be. ifyou have keepsakes already
no way to fix your god pool though, who's in is in. can sell boons though
I mean you cant really
nvm you cant
game gotta go so well
untill an off god boon
like Pose or Zeus
Hello!!! i have unlocked weapon aspects, i ahve like 5 blood(think that is what its called). would it be smarter for me to try to focus on nemesis aspect fully(i like sword mainly), or unlock 5 different aspects
mess around and find out
fair xd
@leaden whale see this post for advice on testing aspects before you buy.
i see, thanks!!
There's also the pinned post for the lvl/power you can expect on each aspect
thanks for pointing that!! helps me out quite a lot
lmfao was testing things out, maxed out zag shield cause why not, accidently dashed out to the chamber
perfecto
Noooo
tbf this shield is quite strong, i spam the rush soo hard that i hardly get hit, and i do some dmg as well
not the worst to happen ig
Indeed.
i like it over sword style, naisu
Hope you got to try a couple of other things first too
luckily i did
Zag sword is when you feel like you have that dawg in you
and Guts sword when you are that dawg
nvm, the max i have reached with my nemesis aspect lvl 2 is minotaur...that bull
accidentaly upgraded zag shield to max, and tried the run
won ,only died once
bruhl, this item is a tank
Such is the shield
So I’m about 14 hours into Hades (Having a HELL of a time too), but I was wondering if I’m just total trash? I’ve cleared both Tartarus and Asphodel a number of times, but Elysium just seems to kick my ass. I’ve made 33 attempts in total and was just looking to see where everyone else is at in their journey through the underworld and see if you guys have any tips or anything that you’ve found useful?
Game is hard
Use flat damage on fast weak attacks and % damage on slow strong attacks
Tidal dash is good
Dashing gives I frames and doing anything during that dash like a dash strike takes away the iframes
What do you normally die to in ely
what aspect are you focusing on right now
And it's a big variance for what run people clear on. I was around 22, I've heard as low as 8 and as high as 80
Everyone's different so don't feel like you're doing something wrong if it's just taking you more runs
Oh yeah, it’s definitely gonna be on my PlayStation Home Screen for awhile. I just got the upgrade to where I can seen the Boon List for each Olympian God so I think that’ll help strategize a little bit more. I’ve tried all the weapons a little bit, but I’ve been going with the Twin Fists a lot recently. Also, I’ve really noticed that any ability that has deflect is crucial when things become very bullet hellish.
well boy, someday you will realize that
life is not a race, its a journey
run, if you cant walk, crawl, if you cant crawl, roll
but by all means keep it going
nice, the fists are probably the most dangerous weapon, simply bc they
it dont matter if you suck, we all start somewhete
he he hell naw
are close range, and don't have any inherent protection
sword you have a good amount of reach
but still nothing compared to the almighty Mr Potential Weapon
Varatha the spear
fists attack pretty fast so flat damage sources like hangover and zeus scale really well
tidal dash, static discharge, some artemis
I'm talking about the endlag of the thing
after a dash strike?
attackig as a whole
The special with the fist just seems pretty powerful and you can speed it up Swift Flourish from Hermes. Also, a Dash deflect skill is a must.
do you have aspects yet?
I don’t think so.
that aint gonna make no dif
yeah , upgraded zag fist to lvl 2 and trying to beat the game 2nd using it, flat dmg really works. whats better hammer for it tho, rolling knuckle?
alr dw about it then
special is strong with a % boost on it but attack is honestly going to give a lot better consistent damage
i don't like rolling that much. generally the best ones are breaching cross, explosive upper, and long knuckle
does he know abt the dash special endlag
thanks
Thanks. I don’t play a lot of games with this level of build variety so I’m just not used to thinking through it all, but it’s kinda fun doing it. You know?
Yeah i gotchu, it can def be overwhelming at first

Creating builds with good synergies is pretty much the main mechanic for Hades.
Yeah, it’s my first rougelike and I think I’m just wanting to rush through like I do with the other games I play, but I gotta realize that this is a new genre for me so it needs to be played differently.
Read the descriptions carefully though, they are very careful about saying what works with what, and there's a codex to tell you exactly which boons unlock others.
I just unlocked the Boon Codex upgrade to tell you all the ones associated with each God.
It was almost my first too.
That's the one
Note that Zeus lightning comes in two flavours, bolt and strike
Some secondary boons only work with one of these types.
Took me ages to spot that
Hades average run be like
*Gambles.PNG
What's the best way to use my titan blood do I use it only in one weapon ??
If you keep playing, you’ll eventually have enough for all weapons and aspects and more left over. Pick a weapon you like and focus that
Once that’s max, you can pick another one, etc
Ok so just focus on own weapon because I unlocked ||heat||
And they are still stuck on 1
For some reason
@leaden whale (post final boss spoilers) ||Heat does not cause weapons to be upgraded automatically. Heat is a way to get more Titan Blood, and that's what you can use to upgrade weapons||. And now you've beaten final boss (congrats), maybe #h1-discussion is a better channel for your questions.
I'm saying like should I focus only on one weapon?? Or mix and match
If you like multiple weapons, while it will keep the upgrades weaker you'll have more options
Or you could upgrade one aspect, and win over and over ||through the pact to receive all of its bounties||, the move to the next weapon
||ok so I'm better off doing once aspect and win than go to another aspect for the same weapon ?? ||
But you don't need to ||upgrade the weapon for that, it's the heat level that matters||
The point of just upgrading one is to have easy wins ||until the bounties cap out||
in some builds I see people mentioning one god for attack and another god for a special. What does this mean?
For example I wanted to go a low tolerance build but I’m new so I don’t really know what Aphrodite attack and Dionysus special means 😅
get heartbreak strike (aphrodite’s attack boon) and drunken flourish (dionysus’ special boon)
each god has one boon for each core ability (attack, special, dash, cast, call) and you can only have one boon for each of those abilities at a time
oohhhh ok
aphrodite attack gives a high % damage boost and inflicts weak
so do I need to use the aphro keepsake in order to get the attack first?
or does that not rly matter
dionysus gives no damage buff but adds a certain amount of hangover damage
it helps yeah
if you’re looking for a specific build you’ll want to use keepsakes to get the gods/boons you want
for low tolerance probably start with dionysus to get the hangover special since i assume that’s what you’re focusing on
then add aphrodite in asphodel, get her attack, then look for low tolerance
This is assuming for chiron aspect vtw
Depending on your weapon you should swap these
Dio on fast thing, aphro on slow thing
(or if applying weak is annoying, go for the ares-dio dup instead)
You want curse of vengeance from ares
Y'all new people want to win right?
Even || beat Hades? ||
Well here's a great idea to get you started
|| stop using stygius||
💯
i mean if you go for ME it can be a very good weapon for early game especially if you don't have ||aspects|| yet
Yea but ME is good on every weapon
nah, nem slaps
trust in the RNG gods 🙏
& all poms on hangover
The aphrodite boon can get 1 or 2 but the rest boost hangover
i don't think bow can do ME very well? unless like... chiron maybe? but still
Hidden bow ME
Chiron would be the worst at it
ares special, athena attack? not good but certainly better than hera I'd say
opposite direction
Ares attack athena specila athena dash
Find flurry shot
play it like a melee aspect
guys, i ||defeated hades twice|| , so for the third time, i was thinking of trying a cast build which is easy to learn, what weapon and aspect fits that the best
poseidon or achilles, for pure cast
hera and ||beo|| for cast assisted builds
Aspects are just weapon variants. Use them, or don't. They give you more scope for different builds with different strengths, but they are not the aim of the game. As you move past simply struggling to beat the final boss and start to increase difficulty (via ||heat||) you'll end up with enough Titan Blood to unlock everything eventually. Or maybe you're a player who makes it to credits and puts the game down, in which case aspects won't matter much either way.
Overall Hades is a game about constructing builds from the semi random boons you get during a run, so it's probably good to think about that aspect of things. But weapon aspects are just one part of putting a build together.
The basic advice if you have some Titan Blood to spend would be to either upgrade the weapon you're most successful with, or save it for a weapon you like the look of (there are guides that explain each aspect).
I find censoring kinda flawed ngl
cuz, people still gonna click on that and ask
"whats a beo"
actually I'd rather saying names out casually
censoring kills the mysterious vibe
Hidden aspects names should be spoilered cuz the whole post final boss rule in this channel
But also you can just say hidden shield/sword/etc lol
yo uhh Imma call the sword aspect
Guts sword
btw I suggest giving everyone npc a bottle of nectar
they might reciprocate
is the best employee board in the lounge randomised? is there any way zagreus gets on the board?
Yes and yes but idk the specifics for zag
I think you ||need to have done a certain amount of heat?||
Is prob on the wiki
i think its just after you beat the game
oh actually
I think Ive gotten it twice
afterter
actually
no, let the lad
find out
but letme say
bro look quite handsome on that board
ahh makes sense
lol zag always looks handsome tbf HAHA
🤨
cmon ya cant rly blame me
actually we can
it's the character design. they are made to look good. we are being manipulated by sgg. can't resist🤷♂️
The designs are peak
So I'm on my third run what should I focus on also I have god mode on its more fun for me haha
I'm making it to the final area and they I get wrecked haha
Should I just focus on the codex ?? That's really interesting to me rn
Focus on getting more Darkness and Keys to get more powerful, codex is for fun yeah it's interesting
I'm focusing on getting 30 keys rn
do the weapon unlocks take that many? i remembered them only taking around 5 for the last ones
Yes it's 30
I just unlocked the mirror talents
What do I need Keyes now for if I unlocked all talents and weapons
Any good talents I should use ??
Trade at the broker once mirror/weapons done
For mirror refer to pinned messages
(have 15 keys with you at all moments for 15 keys = titan blood)
how did you unlock all the talents and weapons on the third run-
Hold up 
📌 icon on top right (pc)
Or ctrl + p
Idk where it is on discord mobile new layout lmao
Oh I meant Ive completed three runs my bad for the confusions
I'm on run 36 now I think
oh lol that makes sense
this channel is mostly for ppl who havent met redacted yet
Yea I'm worried about spoilers in other channels haha
Since I haven't beat the story tbh
And I'm still figuring out stuff in the game
fair fair
i shouldn't be giving advice to u then lol, im in the same progression spot as you. Just traded all my gems for keys implusively to get to 30
Yea 😅😅
I just got to 30 today
I've been doing well but die near the end of runs haha I'm like oh well at least I get to go back to the house again and talk to my favs
I'll take any advice tbh haha
It's a game advice is useful 😀
I just got the game last week ?? It was on sale on PlayStation haba
Haha
If you're on PlayStation, consider mapping the Rail's reload action from R3 to left shoulder (L1) and move the Codex button elsewhere (I put it on left D-pad and just do without menu-left).
When you unlock Hestia you'll thank me. 🙂
should just be in settings -> controls
Ok thanks 😊
It.... took me so long to realize god mode was a thing 
i finished the ... 4th boss the thanatos one and got to the maze and fumbled not knowing how the poison worked
I have the poison I still struggle haha
how much % can you level god favour?
olympian's favor? 40%
but don't use that one
swap to dark foresight
and just in case, 20% for pride, 10% for legacy
Im still needing to farm dark and gems and things, thats why Im using that one tho
chamber rewards are like 10 per room tho
with dark foresight you get better builds = faster clears = get darkness from bosses
assuming you claimed the bounties with the wep already
also troves
the main thing you want to grind darkness is getting good rng with chaos boons
also this is speaking from a way more experienced point but even w/o full mirror you'll start winning often at some point w/o it
unless the build you are doing is like super needy (see merciful end)
but meanwhile you can just focus in like dds/2nd dash/hp/dark foresight and be set
then start grinding for rest (looking at persuasion)
I just have died like 10 times against ||the bull and theseus||, so I hope so
want any tips or have an idea of what to do already
I know what to do, my hands dont understand it tho(?
understandable
better compared to...?
to golden touch
Yeah my mind got lost
But I meant that isnt that good to focus on too?
Like it should help with the build same as dark foresight
shouldnt it?
I'd say dark foresight is better tbh
(tho can also make the argument of like, focus on safety, dark foresight will supply money)
It helps more throughout the run, the 100 extra gold is mainly for like Tartarus shops
Which is like still good but you'll get more consistent boons with dark foresight
hey guys rather than call (boss spoiler) ||Thesus and Minotaur||, why dont we call it the "||Heracles bossfight"||
its called heroes
would rather call them frauds
It’s not ||heracles||
What are you on lol
be nice to new people
im new
Hi new
how nice cuz we got Zagreus's nice
and Hades's nice
as nice as you can manage. strive for how nice zagreus is to everyone but hypnos
Anyone have tips for beating the game? I have one successful escape attempt, but i can't seem to do it again. I'm most comfortable with the fists and deflect boons, but i don't always get them. Any general tips for beating the game? Am i supposed to use more than one weapon? How do i get more upgrade materials for my weapons? Should i pay attention to heat during my first playthrough? Taking all general tips.
each boss drops a specific big material the first time you kill a boss with a weapon
With every weapon
blood, diamond, ambrosia, blood again in that order
You don't have to use all of them but I recommend trying them
He's in Tartarus rn
what the|| pact/heat does is that if you increase to the number it tells you, the bounties are refreshed and you can get them again with your weapon of choice||
Is that the gun?
keepsakes are what the npcs give you when gifting nectar
athena's (and any from the gods) have the effect of forcing the next boon you find to be from athena
or whatever god you used
And having better rarity
that barely matters
OKay my first run with ||heat, do you know why Styx and elysium rewards are empty on 0 heat?||
||you haven't claimed the bounties of those areas with that weapon/0 heat yet||
And how do I do that, If I defeated the bosses, didnt I?
wait ||with empty do you mean the checkmark is there along the bounty icon or a ?||
a ?
||this is for 0 heat right/same weapon you escaped already?||
mess around and find out
Which are the best c||ontracts to spend diamonds on?|| what should I focus in?
You’ll get enough for all of them if you keep playing
None of them really matter gameplay wise
Fated keys/nectar are nice
what about ||sysyphus is useful?||
Is that ||his free him contract?||
its for the story
I mean
||freeing him does have a few rewards||
||you know the big locks in the keepsakes cabinet?||
I really don't think this is appropriate convo for new players
If you're not willing to wait to find out @lone urchin #h1-discussion is a better place or the wiki
well uhm
isnt it kinda cut n clear
