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Good grief things just got fun
Alecto fight was a joke, and that’s just base gun
Thank you guys for all the help thusfar. It means a lot that you want to see me succeed, even though I won’t “see” it coming LOL
How could’ve I screwed this up? I went to the third area and things were great until I met the suicidal butterflies miniboss encounter.
I have no clue how to get out of that room
BUTTERFLY BALL! A new player's worst enemy
I feel like I killed a ton of them and it wouldn’t end. I died not understanding it
You'll want to focus down the butterfly ball first if at all possible
You’d think with the amount of triple grenade shots and the aaoe damage that I would’ve just done it by chance. Is it ridiculously hard to kill or am zI just doing it wrong?
It has a decent amount of HP and armor
I just can’t seem to focus on it while I’m getting stung literally every 0.3 seconds if I even stop for a moment
Time to get my second dash back
I even had flood shot going
Now that I’m ready to think about it, how do you get the secret aspect of your weapons?
pinned in #h1-story-discussion
the good ones are spear, shield (best aspect in the game), bow and rail
hidden sword and fists are 2 of the worst aspects in the game so don’t waste the time or blood on them
spear needs a good amount of blood in it (kinda)
you've been playing with only 1 dash??
you kinda need that for survivability lmao
ngl you're probably doing it fine, butterfly ball just has a stupid amount of armor
just be mindful of the spawning blue men
I had two dashes and I reset the mirror for dd and hp increases
And not having triple shot grenades is huge with the hydra. I went in with one dd and still lost
lmao it do be like that
Thinking the gun will be my way out of here. I’ll have to just use double dash as my guard and shoot constantly
dash/special and reload at the same time btw
it'll cancel the reload animation so you can maintain mobility
Reload first!
tbf it doesn't matter too much since the reload takes the same amount of time
once I start playing again
Gotta say, this game grew on me. I never thought I’d have fun at first, but the rail changed all that LOL
I just hate the asphadel area with a passion. Everything burns you and does lasting damage even when you have resistance
BTW my god mode is maxed out
BTW is rocket bomb better than the regular special for rail? I’m trying it out
yes
see if on second hammer after rocket u can get cluster bomb
it’s bugged so the base damage isn’t reduced
so you essentially get a 400 damage nuke
rocket lands faster and does more damage so it's just generally better
I finished an area. If I switch from collar to something else do I lose the 50 hp?
Unless of course I use an olympian to get a buff boon then that part of it stays
But yeah I get it
I’m finding out that inflicting weak on enemies is huge
I’m heading to the third zone with both dd items and still a decent chunk of hp to boot
Both my bullets and rockets deal weak now and it lasts at least 7 sec per time
Bullets (other than Hestia's special bullet) are not good candidates for Aphrodite's boons because their base damage is low. I'd much rather take Zeus's flat damage on them for decent damage. Best defense is a good offense
Strong drunk is saving me too. I just got to full hp with a fountain and I have 220 hp max
aphrodite attack on rail is certainly an option lmao
I guess for me the weaker damage adds up over time and it’s making my run better
on the other hand, you can kill them in half the time instead lmao
I completely undderstand what you’re saying.
Anyway I’m liking alyseum better, there’s lots of room to dash and traps aren’t really a huge issue
The fire and dash is great there
Oh my goodness!!!! I just beat the gladiators boss on my first try!!!!!!
This is absolutely awesome!!! Gun is my weapon for good
I must say I got very lucky and didn’t run into butterfly ball
Holy crap I’m about to fight Hades!!!!!
Not sure if I’ll make it but it’ll be worth the experience.
YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!! I ESCAPED!!!!!!!
Maxing out the hp was the way. I had a max of 345 hp and still one DD in my pocket unused! Thanks guys for the help and suggestions. It turned out that fire & dash constantly was good enough on god mode. I may have never made it without strong drunk.
Thunder dash too for chip damage
I must say I need to get better at hiding behind pillars to avoid Hades’ lasers
But who cares? I did it in under a week!
Graaats. Keep going! Plenty left to enjoy
Definitely. At least now I won’t care if I have a friend help with future escapes, I did one completely on my own and that was the goal.
Blackholicious, you want an illigal tip fpr the Hades fight?
and you thought it was gonna take months lmao
Nice
Definitely helps when you have the right weapon.
Oh, what just happened here? I equipped the keepsake from Zeus, expecting his blessing when I got my next moon, and instead, I got Demeter.
did you just reach the surface for the first time
the game will sometimes force god boons over the keepsake you use
for story events
yep, but the keepsake will keep the charge and will just work for the boon after
OK, I’m guessing Demeter was just a part of the story that had to happen.
if this is your first run after reaching the surface then yes that is forced
I've been playing hades since it came out on the switch yet I am still so bad with anything but the blade (note I don't play anything else) lol
I'm finally trying it so I can keep earning stuff on it cause I've maxed my pact on the blade, what's best to increase spear damage?
I think artemis is really good for the spear, so is Ares
so u have aspects right
do achilles aspect
get hunting blades
I do and okay cool, I will try those. I've never done much with the other weapons so I didn't know what was best
Spear: Archilles, hidden (with Charged Skewer)
Shield: Zeus, hidden
Bow: all but Chiron
Fists: Demeter
Rail: all
thank you so much !!!!!
charon's well tips? i generally don't touch stygian shard ever which is probably something i shouldn't be doing
Use them if you have soare money really.
Casts benefit most from it due to having way more limited ways to increase their dmg.
Stygian shard is fun if you get more than one, as the dmg is multiplicative.
Same goes for ichors (good if you have rush delivery)
Hydralite good for extra health and what now
Yarn of ariadne also boosts legendary/duo boons chances
Oh yeah, if you use Charon's keepsake in elysium, then when going to Styx you buy anything from the well, any item will last to the final boss assuming you get a 2 sack
chiron is the worst bow aspect? damn it was my favourite one so far
It works fine for clearing
It just falls off at the extremes harder and earlier than the others
It can still be your favorite! The ways it isn't good won't actually affect you unless you're doing speedrunning or other challenges, the kind of extremes I think Bananas is talking about.
mumei in sggcord jumpscare
I'm here sometimes 
generally would flurry fire or ricochet fire be better for zag rail
3rd option?
1st or 2nd hammer
flurry
okay thx
all options suck tho
hade
s
god of the dead
father of zagreus
what's the best keepsake?
almost always it's gonna be acorn
i use hourglass and then the tooth since they're the only 3 star i have
what does acorn do again?
Straight up eats and negates a certain number of hits during boss fights (including from adds, so be careful)
What is this "adds" term I keep seeing?
extra enemies the main boss summons
Additions, if you will
Ugh barely made it out with Poseidon aspect sword and Athena cast.
What cast is Poseidon aspect best with?
Phalanx or crush shot
Demeter fists might be my new favorite aspect
Hold attack and dash every half second to win
which boon of ||chaos|| should i get: ||atrophic ambush; caustic soul or enshrouded favor? im leaning towards the one of the 1st two but idk||
||chaos|| boons depends upon your aspect and build you're doing
but the 3 boons u got are pretty meh so whichever
Hp/rarity are nice
are ||demeter's boons|| much rarer than the others? i've only gotten her boons a few times
like actually 4 times so far
No
Just bad rng
If you have their keepsake then fill your god pool it'll be easier to find their boons
If you get a boon from a god they get added to your pool, once you find 4 different gods those get locked in
The rest won't appear (excluding hermes-chaos as they work differently)
I see
whats the difference between bull rush and power rush how do i know if im doing one or the other do i just have to wait for longer to get a power rush
you have to time it right for a power rush (same as a power shot with the bow) and only if you have the right hammer upgrade
power rush is like a brief moment during the charging if you have the hammer, so if you wait too long it's gone
so you have to release at the exact time
Best boons for hidden shield aspect? And also Zeus aspect?
for hidden shield:
poseidon cast + artemis attack (or anything to open the duo) -> mirage shot duo. mirage shot is bugged to deal 100% damage instead of 30% on hidden shield, so you want to try and get it.
for zeus:
zeus special and aim for static discharge. that's pretty much it lol pom static discharge as much as possible
Thanks I'll give it a try. Last I tried the hidden shield, I was mostly using the throw rather than the attack
just keep exploring the tunnel on the left side
i have to complete all the 5 dungeons?
i will probably die before completing all the tunnels
no, the thing you need can range between 2-5 tunnels until you find it
oh ok thanks for the info
5 is not as likely as 2
||that's the start of his 2nd phase||
Only 3 more to go...

(possibly not entirely serious)

when should i start to unlock aspects?
hey guys, im new to the game and im really getting clapped by hades, the tunnels for cerberus keep stretching my revives thin
mostly the poison
Grab poseidon dash or cast add breaking wave and styx is done
The tunnels are so small they keep being knocked around till death
Do the mini boss tunnels first (skull icon under the reward) they are easier than normal rooms
If panicking when poisoned pause the game so you can look for the cure calmly @brittle ginkgo
As soon as possible really
Just look at your fav weapon, see something that calls for your attention and unlock it (even if blood is somewhat limited before the first win)
If you want to lessen that a bit either
-look at the pins here, there's a list of how much power you can expect from the aspects at each lvl
Or
If you use blood and don't like the aspect, go into a run and press give up (and don't go into Zag's bedroom by accident, that will save the game)
It'll revert your save to before you used the blood
i've got 5 blood yet
my fav is malphons fist currently
Dem fists is the best aspect for it (may not feel as good if its low lvl but still)
Fists also do feel quite similarlish between aspects sadly
oh so the aspects usually change the playstyle of the weapon?
Oh you don't have aspects yet
Unlock all weapons (6 weapons in total)>do a run>back at courtyard weapons should be glowing
Interact with the pedestal of your weapon equipped
Yup, some more than others
thank you
good to know ty
1 weapon is missing for me
had got a nice run yesterday i beat the 2nd boss there
oh yeah, thanks
If it’s not too much trouble, could someone please send me an image of a door entry where you will get a hammer to upgrade your weapon in the next room? My vision challenge is getting me confused on which rooms will give me a hammer and which ones will give me God bones.
BTW, I’m finding that starting with Poseidon and trying for tidal dash and adding things to it is a great build for me.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/3/3e/Daedalus_Hammer.png/revision/latest?cb=20181212011510
This is how it looks like, if it helps any
Thanks for that. The red handled sort of gives it away. Got cluster bombs with one of those last night, and most of the run became a literal joke. I got all the way through with no uses of death defiance.
And by the way, my entire mirror is available to me now. Should I go for weapon aspects next, or titan blood, or what?
BTW, is fishing sort of a luck thing? I press the right bumper when I feel my controller vibrate, assuming that a fish is tugging on my line. But most of the time I get nothing. I have succeeded twice. So is it kind of based on luck?
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
About the rumble, when is a real catch the rumble is way stronger
If I remember correctly
OK. I guess I can understand that. But I didn’t feel like the rumble was any more pronounced when it was real.
Sound should be different too but may be difficult to hear with the ost in the background
The sound is pretty pronounced, and it gets me 75% of the way there on its own
damn
So ya got 6 titan blood total you can get until then
Along with 6 diamonds
other than that I recommend getting more darkness for the mirror
how many bosses are there
alright i will ty
Four
oh well died to the 3rd rn
They are hard to get through at first but keep at it and you’ll be fine
Does acquiring titan blood speed up after beating the final boss? The 12 from my first six and trading away my 6 ambrosia doesn’t seem like a lot compared to how much is needed for upgrades.
It does if you get comfortable with the weapons
What are the main ways of acquiring it. Is trading 20 nectar>2diamonds>ambrosia>more blood the best way to do it?
The better you get at the game the faster titan blood comes in, and since you're always improving it will always be faster
Oh do I get more per weapon when I increase the heat level?
Ah that makes sense
also you can buy it sometimes in last shop
I haven’t used the heat yet so I was confused
There are a few prophecies that also give blood iirc
15 keys for 1 blood sometimes at the broker! Good deal
Fishing in the final area!
Fishing… my enemy
got chaos shield before btw
but well it feels just like the normal shield
Ah, chaos shield
At lvl 1 yeah it won't feel any different
at lvl 5 is just kinda bad
oh really?
so i shouldn't get it to lvl 5?
alright ty
already leveled it up to 3 before rip
which weapon aspects should i level up
on shield zeus is good
alright ty
you have them for all already
yeah mb didn't realize that i have to equip a weapon to see the aspects lmao
I al determined that poison pools are the worst thing to ever welcome me
How do I know if by doing the dice rolling thing that I will get a god boon instead of coins ?
Been trying to get curse of drowning for the prophecy but so far no luck
not rlly guaranteed
use the other option
much better
hey I can never decide while picking hermes boon on fists, which of these is the best? +3 dashes, side hustle, swift strike thanks
Kinda depends on your build, but more dashes mean more iframes so I would probably take that
thanks ❤️
i would say dashes especially if you have gilgamesh
Dashes or hyper sprint into rush delivery are like the best options no matter the weapon really
My only goal for this game isn't to beat it but to just be knowledgeable enough to actually give good advice in this channel
Because rn I'm about as useful as a paralysed rock climber
Just lurk and you'll be there in no time, trust me.
for me the easiest way to beat the game is zeus aspect shield
It is for many
Zagfist Plume for true braindead gaming.
What's your build? I'm curious.
Ngl I did that with Athena attack and sprint, you basically don’t die anymore, but it’s very slow
Zeus shield and zeus boons
whats that agin
is it with gilgamesh
Really? What was your mirror like?
Got that from here as well
The 2 times I've gotten to the final boss was from that
Nah, Zagreus Fist and Lambent Plume, you become basically untouchable and it's a guaranteed win up to a certain heat.
It’s really good
||why tf does hades have to restore all his health and be stronger when u get him to 1% health its hard enough getting to him||
Lmao, makes sense, is it fun?
Spoiler for final boss
So fun
Because he's ur dad lol.
Niiiiiiice, what's ur mirror look like?
He should be a good dad tho
Every Dad should be a good Dad. He's an Olympian tho so good luck with that lmao.
I unlocked the stuff with 10 keys and I'm using the 50 bonus health
And stubborn degiance
He is a good dad
Stubborn is worse compared to Death Defiance
Niiiiiice
BASED.
I feel like It kinda depends
But consider how based it is tho...
But stubborn defiance with some touch of styx is just death defiance but for every chamber
Well unless you play with || hs or a lot of heat || you only get killed in bossfights
Shadow is generally better than Fiery on fists.
I got recommended this video about hades max heat being completed wtf does that mean
im on a losing streak on a new file of 9😭
I’m kidding but you realistically only use death defiance at boss
Yes I know, I just saw the aspect and thought “you know what would be neat” and did it, didn’t think much about the mirror
But I personally also use High Confidence and Ruthless Reflex to maximise damage.
Fr, and if you're skilled enough you can cope with a boss with SD.
It means that up until recently no person was able to beat Hades at max heat.
Fair.
Ik that but what is heat
Oh yeah, you haven't beat [redacted] yet.
Basically the game hasn't even started for you.
No I've been absolutely screwed over by redacted
First time u saw ||Second Phase|| what did u think?
What’s the issue with redacted?
Skill Issue.
My mirror of the night things are shadow presence, chthonic vitality, death defiance, greater reflex, boiling blood, infernal soul, deep pockets, thick skin, priveleged status, dark foresight, god's legacy and fated authority
What should I change in those?
What weapon are you using?
Legacy for pride and authorithy for persuasion
||WHAT THE FÜCK HE WAS LITERALLY DEAD NOW HES ON FULL HEALTH WTF CAN I DO WITH 20 HP LEFT||
I mean Im gonna consider that perduation, I barely use authorithy
How come you were at 20 by the ||end of 1? ||
Lmao, My luck stat in Hades is genuinely insane, I was genuinely too stacked to care on my first run meeting ||Hades.||
I'm ass
Uh how do I get special aspects
@gritty elm I just realised u have a geometry dash profile picture right
Yes
Titan Blood
I only recognised it because I use that ufo
I meant hidden aspects ops
I think they’re pinned in #h1-story-discussion
Check #h1-story-discussion pins 8f you lean the hidden ones
Oh ok ty
They play SD rember?
What other aspect combos are there bcs I'm a bit tired of using shield I wanna use spear or the nes power gloves
|| What attack did you have the most issues with? ||
For fists dem os the hest aspect but they all play quite the same
Is that directed to me?
Well fists are either just Demeter and merciful end build or plume with zag fists
Use merciful end/zeus attack and what not
ZAGFIST PLUME GAMING
Yes click it
u got Lambent Plume?
I did click it but I thought someone else was asking lmak
Yeah
Aite, for maximum effect do this if possible
Yea I got it
And this, I assume u have Fiery cuz Zeus Shield.
Aite?
Oh wow I'm stupid
Nah, I just speak weird, trust me.
Btw, English your first language?
|| Simplest for fists is basically plume and zag fists, along with Athena dash and aphro or dio attack, and that boon from hermes that gives additional dodge rate ||
Yep that's what makes it worse
What does zag fists do
+15% dodge
You can also go for a merciful end built but it’s very luck depending or I’m just terribly unlucky
Thanks
The joke is just stacking dodge chance
It can work but if your boons are awful you'll barely get plume to proc
A merciful end?
unlucky
I'd also add Zeus fists to the build tbh because the dps is insane, honestly all zeus if possible Zeus is genuinely cracked on most builds (I hate him tho)
Ares-athena duo
It’s the duo boon of ares and Athena
Oh I haven't gotten any duos yet
If enemy has doom and you hit them with any deflect ability doom procs instantly
Instead of waiting
Ahhhh, that's why, mb mb
Can you get merciful end with Athena only on dash?
nope
No
attk or special
Yeah, prolly go for Zeus build to be safe.
Yes
You gotta build your mirror more to optimally force duos.
How do I see the reqs for duos
Yes, I’ll try to do it today perhaps I’ll get more lucky…
Divine Dash Addiction is real, get help kids.
Do you have the codex upgrade yet
It’s just too good
(work order)
I don't think so
Indeed.
That book
The journal
With all the info
Oh yea i have the codex
Controller supremacy
Check an olympian's page and see if at the bottom there's a "press - to see boon list"
I may have some pretty dodgy opinions but the most based opinion is that the styx boss fight is the best by far
I need to switch tbh, my mouse is too broken.
Styx as in the final boss?
now i wanna see what's my most used boon is
Or the mini bosses
It is the best
Mine is tidal dash 
Based.
||nope the totally real and thrilling fight against cerby||
So true
I remember the time I tried to beat [redacted] with only tidal dash
At a certain point it does become real actually lol.
Divine dash is way to good I love it
WHAT
It is, you basically never use any other even though they're all good.
Tidal is also really good
Which cast boon gives cast the most damage
Hunter is solid on bows
Bc of those annoying skulls
Less of a fight, more of you getting mowed down by the goodest boi, but essentially yes.
It doesn't do much damage though...does it
Trippy shot (dio)/aphro second
Aphrodite or Dionysus I'm pretty sure.
Been a while since I played.
Ok thanks I always thought it was athena
If you had hunter dash on fists, does it boost the entire combo or only first punch? You hold the button down like the bow after all
Is the highest dmg dash
Only the sweep
Oh alr
Also tidal dash is an easy way to destroy styx
You're thinking too simply, cc is an important part of damage.
Get breaking wave and watch as the enemies play ping pong on themselves
I wanna try full knockback fists too, there’s just so much to do with fists
The knockback makes it arguably as good as Divine Dash.
Crowd control
Fr, there's so many build with it, I'd prolly do it with Talos Fist.
Bloody hell why is my English so bad today
Syrian refugees probably know more than me
We're using slang, it makes perfect sense lol.
That got nothing to do with English dw
More than english I think is just unkown slang lol
I should know slang though I'm gen z that's like the golden age of slang
Homie, if you think just cuz we're gen z we can comprehend the sheer amount of slang that exists then you're cracked.
Gen Z is literally another language at a certain point.
grue
And every second thing is just the skull emoji

And -ussy.
I'm cringe I use gamer slang irl constantly.
I do sometimes too, it’s even worse bc people here don’t even speak English…
Aphro Aid 1st
PP 2nd
3rd Divine Dash.
I mean cc is in many games and I'm a game addict I should've got it
Where do you even see that?
Admin chamber
Oh
Btw @naive bear Some other builds are:
Yo-yo Fist Talos fists + Pos Special
Flurry Slash is really good on spear and I personally get Extended Jab to embarass enemies.
Pure Determination.
Plus I feel like Aphro is hella underrated, she's one of the best gods in the game.
Yo yo fists wtf
You'll see.
Yo yo talos is fun until you get to a boss
3 chambers in and I’m already down to 15hp I’m terrible today
Where you cry at the lack of dmg
Then you gigachad em with Quake Slam.
||Heat?||
I feel like the best thing to stack on Talos is Uncle Pos and Ares.
The best thing is play it like the other fists 
||Pact of Punishment set up? Just curious||
lmao.
My hottest take is that Gilga is best fists.
that sure is a take
|| Td 2 em2 and that thing that speeds up enemies on max ||
I just build better with it, it was made for me.
I just got that second cast duo boon, I don’t even have a cast yet, do I take it?
||forced overtime?||
Mirage shot always sneaks on random builds lmao
Ahhh, FO messes with your flow a lot at first.
If you are trying to set up sea storm might as well
Also from what god did you get it
Poseidon
The others are that the knockback effects do that weird damage thing 20 per 0,2 seconds and cast, both of them are epic
All three are good
I never had this problem
I just gave tidal dash and Artemis aid
Nothing else
Razor shoals does lot of dmg
It’s chamber 5
breaking wave is good
So, let the duo boon rest for now?
which aspect and build
Hidden fists tidal dash it seems?
Zag fists and as much knockback as possible
Oh zag fists
I don’t have hidden yet bc that Minotaur doesn’t wanna give me words
Yeah it doesn't do anything
Lmao, yeah, people have extreme rng issues in this game sometimes, It's crazy to me.
Shoals/Beaver will help more
Alright thank you
Only duo you want (but don't really shoot for) is sea storm
Cuz wet dash doesn't open it
Wet dash is crap, especially with heighten security
I throw a lot of run because of ||pots||
Or it just me but I will take hunter dash over wet dash everytime
Just you but also depends on weapon
Fair.
high heat problems
it's still funny how hs in 1 heat but also one of the worst pacts
Without it, wet dash is top tier no doubt
hehe moist dash
I just have love-hate relationship with poseidon
And how every person seems to think it's free but is actually one of the most unfair pacts in existence.
I got it again
soaked dash.
Me with Zeus fr.
All 3 good again
damped dash.
what r the other 2
Obv it only happens in an experimental run
Uh the one that gives extra damage if you push them into walls and Poseidon attack
I don't like thyphoon really
It doesn't feel the same as B.wave
Attack will eventually open sea storm if you run into zeus
Typhoon is not bad, just bwave being broken
So attack or duo?
No reason to take duo
True
is beaver the one that can instaphase redacted with demeter?
Unless to sell/keep so it doesn't bother you more
Yeah
Funny pillar thing
I’ll take attack anyway, I need some sort of damage against the first boss now
Also spoiler the name
whoops
Uh that was quick, this build might actually be good holy
mildew dash
Tidal dash good
Yeah, some builds just need scaling.
drenched in water dash
With the heat I'm on rn, I'm either dead before Elysium or unbeatable if I reach it.
I kinda feel like my controls might actually be good for this build, I have dash on left trigger and attack on right
Hydration Dash.
Also why are we in the new players channel still
Yeah I have a similar build on mouse, very comfy.
h2o dash
Cuz peeps prolly don't wanna be spoiled in normal chat.
Sweat dash
I don't think most people talking here rn can be spoiled 
tears dash
What's ur set up on controller? I wanna switch.
Loogie Dash
Uh you mean the controls or?
Snot dash
pepsi dash
Ye.
Pilk Dash
What should?
pee dash
my favorite part about today is that fact that i have died to the last phase of hades 6 times
when he was on 5%
Actual Misery, what heat?
Change sea storm dash into yellow seem like a cursed feature fr if they implement it
Uh aid on A the help thing on the lower cross cast on b and the rest you know already or is standard
Gotcha.
make it bright yellow and call it "sunset sea skin"
12
Alright this Poseidon attack and dash combo is really good
dash may be doing the heavy job there
U got Knockback Boons?
Yes a few
The double rebound effect is insane tho.
Which ones? I mean passives btw.
No passives I think
Ahhhh, get some, they're insane
What's ur build?
nemesis, 20% butterfly, artemis att, ares special, artemis cast, posiedon call
i ususally beat hades prettey consistently with this up until 10 heat
I wouldn’t recommend 🦋 especially melee weapon
why
Because the damage is addtive, you have way less control of your build
And you have to keep it the entire run to even get the benefit
You use Butterfly? You're actually cracked.
Mirror?
20% is quite good on nemesis ngl
But you can just by a jerky from charon and save yourself from the hassle of playing hitless
What's ur mirror look like?
It's a lot of effort for a pretty mid damage bonus and no control of your build lmao
You're likely to get more damage from a good build rather than butterfly
only for nemesis
its works the best for me
its +6 dmg per hit i think
and i usually stop getting bonuses after asphodel
Fair enuff, u got Erebus rooms yet?
Smth like this #h1-victory-boasting message
That's why butterfly sucks lmao
Hi whats the best way to reset? Like for example on an attempt to do a run when the boon showcase are bad
How to reset instance
Just afk near an enemy/trap
not yet
idk what they do
it took me a while to know and use chaos so
If you mean like getting a specific thing chamber 1, use ||heightened security and routine inspection 4||
true
Prolly switch to Shadow Presence and Ruthless Reflex.
Your mirror is all meta choices
2 dash peasant can’t play 1 dash 
They reward u for not taking damage, prolly would be best if you're taking Butterfly.
2 dashes are simply better 
is erubus the 5 diamond one
Not a peasant thing
Lmao, it scales well with ur build because it adds %dmg and dodge and u can add dashes with Hermes.
Don't do that lmao
The mirror is fine as is, just switch SD to DD
yes, or 6(i forgot)
I don't think so, it should be the thing that pops up on the floor with a boon on it that u can enter with a certain amount of heat.
Fair, just thinking of the Butterfly.
Ahhhh.
People from the cult of Dionysus sure is built different
Well we are insane.
am I insane for thinking EM2 makes the fight a bit easier?
like, yeah, the lava sucks, but it makes the secondary heads spawn closer to each other, so it can be easier to kill multiple of them at once
yeah that sounds about right
speedrunners take em2 because of that lmao
not because it's easier but because the heads are closer
it also makes the green ones less reliable
cause I've seen them just throw the little rock things into the lava on EM2
It's so satisfying when they just sink into the lava
how to unlock the hidden aspects
iirc you need to invest blood into spear 1st
i don't have blood left
already got the "free" blood with all weapons
i was at last boss rn but failed
put 5 blood into spear (aspect doesn't matter) and then at some point someone will give you the ability to unlock the hidden spear aspect
after hidden spear aspect is unlocked, you just need to put 5 blood into the respective weapon and eventually a character will give you what you need to unlock the aspect for that weapon
rip i won't be able to get more blood until i beat last boss right
you get blood for beating the run, yes
rip
beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood
final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood
other sources: trading for it at lounge (1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
yeah already got furies blood with all 6 weapons unfortunately and i'm not able to beat hades yet
and i still need keys for the mirror
You can probably squeeze unlocking hidden spear through any of this methods but doubt ypu'll be able to unlock anything else after
You'll get plenty more blood in a jiffy after your first win. Don't you worry!
Still good to keep in mind
I'd practice getting good at fishing in case you get lucky after the final boss
final boss was literally 1hit but got killed then
Depending how many work orders you have left I suggest to trade gemstones for keys
death defiance was already used twice
Also yeah fishing in the last boss area can net you 1 extra blood
is fishing important?
Fishing in general is fantastic for meta currency, including keys!
^
Yes, it's pretty darn important if you want to farm meta currencies quickly
so i should just clear a room and fish a bit?
Tart/styx give gems, aspho gives keys, elysium gives nectar, chaos gives darkness
You should take every fishing point possible if you're still farming lots of currencies
And last boss area gives diamond/ambrosia/blood
Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.
Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.
are the fishing points marked?
alright ty
At the start of a chamber or at the end of one there's also a ding sound
That indicates if there's a fishing spot
Can also buy skeleton lures from charon wells
You do need to have purchased the Fishing Rod from the contractor, by the way
yeah i bought it like 1h ago but didn't fish since then
Oh good thing we caught you soon after you purchased the rod
yeah good timing xD
Miss Nyaanyaa tbh.
Where'd the Nyaanyaa go?
banned
how much endgame stuff after the final boss is there
also whats the replayability like
Really great
Quite a bit, actually more than before I think
thats good.....now i just have to get to the endgame stuff
a lot
to the point where only one person has officially finished everything besides custom challenges like boonless
that one person is the guy who beat max heat hades right
yes
there is still a lot of content outside of heat
heat itself has a lot of content as opposed to other games, since you choose how the game gets harder
just how hard is max heat theres no way only 1 person has beat it
i wouldn't be surprised if she already did boonless tbh
game wasn't designed for it to be beaten
and also the odds of getting a viable run is super low
viable runs meaning getting the right boons
not accounting for bad enemy rng and skips
There's a video by haelian explaining why is it so hard and rare
what does max heat do does it give zag like 1hp and -80% damage or smthing
Which funny enough it was a week before it happened 
no mirror, 1 boon choice, no healing
and 60% more enemies, all with 30% more hp
that deal 100% more damage
A time limit
and you're on a timer of 5 min per region
is that 1 boon total or just 1 god you can choose boons from
the average player doesn't get past like chamber 5 at max heat lmao
instead of 3 choices per boon, you get 1
what the actual hell
Also applies to hammers and poms
Good pun
ooooooohhhh oh god that rng is crazy
unintended lmao
tbf the timer isn't that bad for like <45 heat
for heat runners at least
to get 64 heat, youd need:
to be good(not great) at speedrunning due to limited boons choices, forced purges, extra enemy health, harder bosses/minibosses, and a tight timer
be god at the game
have good rng with thunder flourish
forced purges aren't that big of a deal
imagine if some sadist made a mod where it goes up to 100 heat
that does exist
Just play early access hades too
although it goes up to 99 i think lmao
to me, no df+less rolls makes it really bad in tart(i forgot if ap applied to purges)
it doesnt
oh then its fine
whats so hard about early access hades
i think it was just a different heat system
Yeah
although i do remember certain stuff being like "bruh wtf" lmao
in terms of difficulty
Funny numbers mainly
i defeat final boss omggg
big gamer
🎉
Congrats
epic manual emoji fail
btw what should i keep in mind for getting good builds? so should i focus on one god etc
tyty guys
shield carried me through this fight lmao
focus on synergies, typically involving duos/legendaries
go through the duo list and see what works for your aspect/weapon
classic lmfao
there is a second phase?..
no
Oh…
uhm well
Nice
let's hope i'll get this lmao

me and you are in the same boat lmao
Good luck
||he just happens to have a body double||
Both of you
to be fair, the second phase is considered easier than the first so you're big chilling
im getting a mix of deja vu and ptsd from this
i'm dead
Oh
got caught by one of those green things and beamed out of my life
You’ll get them next time
it did not feel that way when i was crapping myself during the 2nd phase
classic
btw where can i exchange my fish
The cook
got some legendarys this run
Does anyone have advice on which hidden aspects are good, like in the pinned message?
ty
head chef in the lounge
nevermind im too late ffs
can confirm, i beat second phase on my second attempt(first was to learrn about beams)
|| Beowulf seems a favourite||
thats a spoiler pretty sure
Thanks
bow, shield, and kinda rail are considered the better hidden ones
spear is dependent on getting charged skewer, without it it's pretty garbage. with it, it's extremely strong and safe
sword and fists are pretty bad but they're fine for like casual playing. a lot of people like these two
||why tf is anglo saxon (i think?, im an idiot idk) mythology in the game||
||all the hidden aspects are from other mythologies||
why is hidden aspects a spoiler
because that's after first claer
It’s meant to be hidden…
tbf all the ||heat|| stuff we talked about earlier was supposed to be a spoiler lmao
Post reaching the final boss*
i mean i havent got them but they dont seem to mess with the story
No need to beat them
right
"everything past the final boss is spoilers" - this channel description

for some reason i thought it was #h1-discussion because i rarely go here
i wonder the in story reason for that does zagreus like teleport or smthing
Just we have new but not so new and less mods watching here
ive only everr seen alma
||the explanation is that the weapons just know they'll be there for their wielders, either in the future or past||
what can i do with ambrosia
thats cool
That aside a conversation with Than confirms that Zag dash is basically a short range teleport
its nectar but for later
Cool nectar
Tasty random nectar
istg if i dont beat the final boss the next time i get to him im cutting off my left nutsack.....place your bets everyone will i be able to have children
No I’m sorry but my bet is on no
how many runs total?
Try not to get hit so much
my strat was not facetanking
What are some good ways to build ||aspect of Lucifer||? I mainly have trouble focusing on dashing and holding attack, or spamming special.
like 20-25 i think
triple bomb
God damn you’re a quick learner
Play it like eris, zeus atk, tidal dash and yeah triple bomb best hammer
pro tip:
get away from him, and attack after his attacks
Pro tip, listen to Hypnos
i had no clue
Hypnos is the best advisor out there
i finished at about 20 runs, wouldve been ~15 if i actually kept my distance(the telegraph on jab is too unclear)
is that good im usualy god(s) awful at games
So I’m the only one that took 40 runs to reach the dude and about 50 to defeat him?
i just wanna find one game where im actually "good" i still havent found it
Escaped at my 45th run
although to be fair i did play a little too much dead cells prior to hades
I mean I never gave a single thought while playing, thinking about it now I probably could’ve planned a bit
how good r u im only 1bc lmao
5bc door
Some top player took 50 attempts to escape

All my runs are like, oh this sounds nice let’s see what happens
Tl;dr don't compare yourself too much to others and it doesn't really matter (on escape count)
i remember when i used to like bow+thunder flourish(not chiron)
im only doing well bcs im just using zeus shield and zeus boons
yep ur definitely good
Also congrats on this lol
im still pretty bad, id say my hollow knight is MUCH better
i wish
got dead cells last week i beat 5bc today lol
average baseball bat abuser
nah did it with assassin dagger
WHAT THE HELL HOWWWWWW WTF GENUINELY WHY ARE U SO GOOD OR WHY AM I SO BAD WTF IS GOING ON AAAAAAAAAAAAAH IM HAVING A MENTAL BREACKDOWN£$%^£**"&(£%~{{:@
its ok we all suck at something
Or everything (in my case)
lmao i suck at dead cells dw
bro i suck at everything every game i play im ass at.
you're like barely 20-25 runs into hades chill
also like
single player game
who cares
i don't play anything else then paladins, roguelike/lite games and soulslike games lmao
thats already really good
20-25 runs is great
i love how i got legendary boon for 20% more fishing chance but keep getting rooms without water
It took me 87 attempts to escape
problem is im way to competitive but im too crap to be competitive © (yea take that @broken girder )
I’m using that from now on
competition is based on commitment, not talent
Hell mode though 👀
Actually insane.
i have like 1100 hours or something
Indeed, based gaming those two.
What I like most about this game is that those are two viable options.
I have, it's Bricky Boy, I'm goated at it.
this is the only game im "good" at
Same lol.
which should tell you that my general skill in games is pretty low 🗿
Does mirage shot work with crystal beam?
Yeah
are there like recommended gods for each weapon?
so on which gods should i focus with malphon for example
Slow, big dmg weapons go for gods with a % modifer (most of the time Aphro or Artemis)
Quick and weak hits, go for boons that add am extra dmg source (So Zeus for example or Ares for merciful end builds)
i usually go artemis for attack
so in general:
slow weapons with good dmg go % boons like for example the one in poseidon
fast weapons go status effects like ares/zeus
is that right?
yeah i realized i fckin hate the knockback lmao
most fun run for me yet was exagryph with ares boons
Cast/dash are nice yup
whenever i use demeter fists i always look for aphrodite special
shes got the highest dmg boost
i never gave attention to aphrodite yet tbh
i think it never hurts to have weak
how to get duos? just saw 2 yet
anything that helps with survivability is good
Needs one core from each god for most of them basically
wdym by core?
Some a bit more specific (Merciful end doesn't open with dash or cast/smoldering air needs a call)
The boons that always show on the left of your hud
Atk/special/cast/dash/call
smoldering air is nice
ty
pairs great with billowing call
There's an upgrade that you can get from work orders that gives your codex a boon list
i'd say ares is definitely my favorite yet i just like his boons
Is like 50 gems
ares is neat, its fun to stack the doom damage
ive never rly had much success with the blade rifts ngl
i got two cast boosts from chaos once my rifts were doing insane dmg
still lost that run lol
are hermes boons important?
never hurts to have hermes
what about chaos?
Depends on build but basically always good
If you don't take him the game will keep forcing his boons on you anyways
And they are great too
i like the dash increasing boon
Yeah +dashes is great
im a fan of the raw move speed tbh
that's nice aswell
There's also hyper sprint (+100% move speed after dadh and sturdy), which opens rush delivery
Which converts speed into global dmg
i don't like the one which gives you 100% movement speed for 0,5seconds after dash
Thats hyper sprint 
i used to not like that one
oh damn
i thought i beat the final boss today
then i realized there is a 2nd phase lmao
Hyper Sprint+ rush delivery even at common rarity is a 50% DMG increase to anything that comes from zagreus
So not only his weapon but things like zeus stuff or your dash
i died to the initial wave he gives off
what's rush delivery?
i died to the beam after getting stunned by the purple hands
Your move speed is converted into dmg
50/75/100% of your move speed is converted into dmg depending on rarity
ohh damn that sounds op
Hermes boon opened by sprint/greater haste or his keepsake
hide behind a pillar for the beams
for the all directional beams u can even stand on top of him
oh well i wish i would have known that before lmao
i didnt know that tbh
So if you buy any ichor from charon welll....
btw which keepsake should i use? i use the raw hp one currently because i just don't know which one i should use
no wonder i was going crazy fast when i had two ichors
i like the one from achilles
when u max it out, 30% dmg reduction from the front, but +10% dmg from the back
The meta for keepsakes is like
God that starts build>(aspho) 2nd god to compliment>ely and styx go acorn (eurydice) for defense
Yeah
alright ty
Also helps them getting them in your god pool
that's quite good to know
I would use the god keepsake only if you know what build or boon you want to start don’t just choose any random one
Yeah that ^
The autocorrect
starting tidal dash can work for most thing too lol
i didnt know the meta was two god boons tbh, i always switched to ||pom blossom|| on the 2nd floor
Should spoiler that one