#h1-for-new-players

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abstract scaffold
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Alternate between that and triple shot buff and it’s less than 30 sec

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Good grief things just got fun

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Alecto fight was a joke, and that’s just base gun

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Thank you guys for all the help thusfar. It means a lot that you want to see me succeed, even though I won’t “see” it coming LOL

north ice
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It's not a problem honestly

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even though i've barely helped at all lol

abstract scaffold
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You’ve all been great

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I’d be overwhelmed with so many questions tbh

abstract scaffold
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How could’ve I screwed this up? I went to the third area and things were great until I met the suicidal butterflies miniboss encounter.

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I have no clue how to get out of that room

cedar delta
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BUTTERFLY BALL! A new player's worst enemy

abstract scaffold
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I feel like I killed a ton of them and it wouldn’t end. I died not understanding it

cedar delta
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You'll want to focus down the butterfly ball first if at all possible

abstract scaffold
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You’d think with the amount of triple grenade shots and the aaoe damage that I would’ve just done it by chance. Is it ridiculously hard to kill or am zI just doing it wrong?

cedar delta
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It has a decent amount of HP and armor

abstract scaffold
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I just can’t seem to focus on it while I’m getting stung literally every 0.3 seconds if I even stop for a moment

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Time to get my second dash back

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I even had flood shot going

abstract scaffold
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Now that I’m ready to think about it, how do you get the secret aspect of your weapons?

final dune
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the good ones are spear, shield (best aspect in the game), bow and rail

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hidden sword and fists are 2 of the worst aspects in the game so don’t waste the time or blood on them

sweet brook
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spear needs a good amount of blood in it (kinda)

sweet brook
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you kinda need that for survivability lmao

sweet brook
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just be mindful of the spawning blue men

abstract scaffold
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I had two dashes and I reset the mirror for dd and hp increases

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And not having triple shot grenades is huge with the hydra. I went in with one dd and still lost

sweet brook
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lmao it do be like that

abstract scaffold
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Thinking the gun will be my way out of here. I’ll have to just use double dash as my guard and shoot constantly

sweet brook
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dash/special and reload at the same time btw

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it'll cancel the reload animation so you can maintain mobility

cedar delta
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Reload first!

sweet brook
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well same time works

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but if you want to stagger it by a bit then yeah reload first

cedar delta
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Oh

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That'll up my Hestia game a bit

sweet brook
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tbf it doesn't matter too much since the reload takes the same amount of time

cedar delta
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once I start playing again

sweet brook
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lmao mood

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i just did a run lmao i should post that

abstract scaffold
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Gotta say, this game grew on me. I never thought I’d have fun at first, but the rail changed all that LOL

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I just hate the asphadel area with a passion. Everything burns you and does lasting damage even when you have resistance

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BTW my god mode is maxed out

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BTW is rocket bomb better than the regular special for rail? I’m trying it out

final dune
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see if on second hammer after rocket u can get cluster bomb

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it’s bugged so the base damage isn’t reduced

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so you essentially get a 400 damage nuke

sweet brook
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rocket lands faster and does more damage so it's just generally better

abstract scaffold
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I finished an area. If I switch from collar to something else do I lose the 50 hp?

sweet brook
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yes

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keepsake buffs don't carry over

abstract scaffold
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Unless of course I use an olympian to get a buff boon then that part of it stays

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But yeah I get it

abstract scaffold
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I’m finding out that inflicting weak on enemies is huge

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I’m heading to the third zone with both dd items and still a decent chunk of hp to boot

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Both my bullets and rockets deal weak now and it lasts at least 7 sec per time

cedar delta
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Bullets (other than Hestia's special bullet) are not good candidates for Aphrodite's boons because their base damage is low. I'd much rather take Zeus's flat damage on them for decent damage. Best defense is a good offense

abstract scaffold
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Strong drunk is saving me too. I just got to full hp with a fountain and I have 220 hp max

sweet brook
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aphrodite attack on rail is certainly an option lmao

abstract scaffold
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I guess for me the weaker damage adds up over time and it’s making my run better

sweet brook
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on the other hand, you can kill them in half the time instead lmao

abstract scaffold
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I completely undderstand what you’re saying.

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Anyway I’m liking alyseum better, there’s lots of room to dash and traps aren’t really a huge issue

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The fire and dash is great there

abstract scaffold
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Oh my goodness!!!! I just beat the gladiators boss on my first try!!!!!!

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This is absolutely awesome!!! Gun is my weapon for good

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I must say I got very lucky and didn’t run into butterfly ball

abstract scaffold
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Holy crap I’m about to fight Hades!!!!!

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Not sure if I’ll make it but it’ll be worth the experience.

abstract scaffold
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YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!! I ESCAPED!!!!!!!

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Maxing out the hp was the way. I had a max of 345 hp and still one DD in my pocket unused! Thanks guys for the help and suggestions. It turned out that fire & dash constantly was good enough on god mode. I may have never made it without strong drunk.

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Thunder dash too for chip damage

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I must say I need to get better at hiding behind pillars to avoid Hades’ lasers

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But who cares? I did it in under a week!

cedar delta
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Graaats. Keep going! Plenty left to enjoy

abstract scaffold
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Definitely. At least now I won’t care if I have a friend help with future escapes, I did one completely on my own and that was the goal.

north ice
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Blackholicious, you want an illigal tip fpr the Hades fight?

sweet brook
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Nice

abstract scaffold
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Definitely helps when you have the right weapon.

abstract scaffold
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Oh, what just happened here? I equipped the keepsake from Zeus, expecting his blessing when I got my next moon, and instead, I got Demeter.

final dune
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the game will sometimes force god boons over the keepsake you use

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for story events

upbeat spoke
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yep, but the keepsake will keep the charge and will just work for the boon after

abstract scaffold
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OK, I’m guessing Demeter was just a part of the story that had to happen.

upbeat spoke
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if this is your first run after reaching the surface then yes that is forced

restive ice
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I've been playing hades since it came out on the switch yet I am still so bad with anything but the blade (note I don't play anything else) lol

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I'm finally trying it so I can keep earning stuff on it cause I've maxed my pact on the blade, what's best to increase spear damage?

north ice
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I think artemis is really good for the spear, so is Ares

final dune
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do achilles aspect

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get hunting blades

restive ice
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I do and okay cool, I will try those. I've never done much with the other weapons so I didn't know what was best

cedar delta
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Spear: Archilles, hidden (with Charged Skewer)
Shield: Zeus, hidden
Bow: all but Chiron
Fists: Demeter
Rail: all

restive ice
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thank you so much !!!!!

kind cloud
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charon's well tips? i generally don't touch stygian shard ever which is probably something i shouldn't be doing

dusty vault
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Hydralite good for extra health and what now

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Yarn of ariadne also boosts legendary/duo boons chances

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Oh yeah, if you use Charon's keepsake in elysium, then when going to Styx you buy anything from the well, any item will last to the final boss assuming you get a 2 sack

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sweet brook
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It works fine for clearing

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It just falls off at the extremes harder and earlier than the others

humble herald
humble herald
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I'm here sometimes shadesmile

mighty patio
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generally would flurry fire or ricochet fire be better for zag rail

mighty patio
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seeking fire

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i didn't really like that one though when I chose it

final dune
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1st or 2nd hammer

mighty patio
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2nd

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1st was triple bomb

final dune
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flurry

mighty patio
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okay thx

final dune
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all options suck tho

steep storm
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hade

north ice
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s

stoic raven
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god of the dead

north ice
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father of zagreus

left flare
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what's the best keepsake?

final dune
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god keepsakes

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and then acorn or hourglass after aspho

sweet brook
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almost always it's gonna be acorn

left flare
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i use hourglass and then the tooth since they're the only 3 star i have

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what does acorn do again?

cedar delta
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Straight up eats and negates a certain number of hits during boss fights (including from adds, so be careful)

proven pivot
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What is this "adds" term I keep seeing?

wooden dirge
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extra enemies the main boss summons

cedar delta
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Additions, if you will

jaunty rivet
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Ugh barely made it out with Poseidon aspect sword and Athena cast.

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What cast is Poseidon aspect best with?

dusty vault
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Phalanx or crush shot

fiery plank
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Demeter fists might be my new favorite aspect

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Hold attack and dash every half second to win

naive bear
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which boon of ||chaos|| should i get: ||atrophic ambush; caustic soul or enshrouded favor? im leaning towards the one of the 1st two but idk||

wooden dirge
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||chaos|| boons depends upon your aspect and build you're doing

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but the 3 boons u got are pretty meh so whichever

dusty vault
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Hp/rarity are nice

kind cloud
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are ||demeter's boons|| much rarer than the others? i've only gotten her boons a few times

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like actually 4 times so far

dusty vault
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No

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Just bad rng

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If you have their keepsake then fill your god pool it'll be easier to find their boons

kind cloud
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fill the god pool?

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there's a limited number of gods per run?

dusty vault
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If you get a boon from a god they get added to your pool, once you find 4 different gods those get locked in

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The rest won't appear (excluding hermes-chaos as they work differently)

kind cloud
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I see

naive bear
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whats the difference between bull rush and power rush how do i know if im doing one or the other do i just have to wait for longer to get a power rush

rain jungle
upbeat spoke
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so you have to release at the exact time

jaunty rivet
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Best boons for hidden shield aspect? And also Zeus aspect?

sweet brook
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for hidden shield:
poseidon cast + artemis attack (or anything to open the duo) -> mirage shot duo. mirage shot is bugged to deal 100% damage instead of 30% on hidden shield, so you want to try and get it.
for zeus:
zeus special and aim for static discharge. that's pretty much it lol pom static discharge as much as possible

jaunty rivet
nimble whale
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hello im new to the game

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im stuck in a room with the hound

still nacelle
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just keep exploring the tunnel on the left side

nimble whale
still nacelle
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then go to him

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he should have an exclaimation mark

nimble whale
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i will probably die before completing all the tunnels

still nacelle
nimble whale
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oh ok thanks for the info

still nacelle
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5 is not as likely as 2

nimble whale
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what

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hade healed to full hp

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💀

wooden dirge
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||that's the start of his 2nd phase||

restive portal
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Only 3 more to go...

nimble whale
restive portal
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(possibly not entirely serious)

nimble whale
cedar flame
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when should i start to unlock aspects?

brittle ginkgo
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hey guys, im new to the game and im really getting clapped by hades, the tunnels for cerberus keep stretching my revives thin

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mostly the poison

dusty vault
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Grab poseidon dash or cast add breaking wave and styx is done

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The tunnels are so small they keep being knocked around till death

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Do the mini boss tunnels first (skull icon under the reward) they are easier than normal rooms

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If panicking when poisoned pause the game so you can look for the cure calmly @brittle ginkgo

dusty vault
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If you want to lessen that a bit either
-look at the pins here, there's a list of how much power you can expect from the aspects at each lvl
Or
If you use blood and don't like the aspect, go into a run and press give up (and don't go into Zag's bedroom by accident, that will save the game)

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It'll revert your save to before you used the blood

cedar flame
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my fav is malphons fist currently

dusty vault
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Dem fists is the best aspect for it (may not feel as good if its low lvl but still)

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Fists also do feel quite similarlish between aspects sadly

cedar flame
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alright thank you

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where can i unlock the aspects?

cedar flame
dusty vault
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Oh you don't have aspects yet

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Unlock all weapons (6 weapons in total)>do a run>back at courtyard weapons should be glowing

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Interact with the pedestal of your weapon equipped

dusty vault
cedar flame
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1 weapon is missing for me

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had got a nice run yesterday i beat the 2nd boss there

abstract scaffold
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If it’s not too much trouble, could someone please send me an image of a door entry where you will get a hammer to upgrade your weapon in the next room? My vision challenge is getting me confused on which rooms will give me a hammer and which ones will give me God bones.

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BTW, I’m finding that starting with Poseidon and trying for tidal dash and adding things to it is a great build for me.

abstract scaffold
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Thanks for that. The red handled sort of gives it away. Got cluster bombs with one of those last night, and most of the run became a literal joke. I got all the way through with no uses of death defiance.

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And by the way, my entire mirror is available to me now. Should I go for weapon aspects next, or titan blood, or what?

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BTW, is fishing sort of a luck thing? I press the right bumper when I feel my controller vibrate, assuming that a fish is tugging on my line. But most of the time I get nothing. I have succeeded twice. So is it kind of based on luck?

dusty vault
# abstract scaffold And by the way, my entire mirror is available to me now. Should I go for weapon ...

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

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About the rumble, when is a real catch the rumble is way stronger

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If I remember correctly

abstract scaffold
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OK. I guess I can understand that. But I didn’t feel like the rumble was any more pronounced when it was real.

dusty vault
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Sound should be different too but may be difficult to hear with the ost in the background

cedar delta
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The sound is pretty pronounced, and it gets me 75% of the way there on its own

cedar flame
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why don't i get any titans blood from hydra/erinye

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and no diamonds anymore

craggy peak
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You only get the reward one time per weapon

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Until you finish a run at least

cedar flame
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damn

craggy peak
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So ya got 6 titan blood total you can get until then

broken girder
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Along with 6 diamonds

craggy peak
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other than that I recommend getting more darkness for the mirror

cedar flame
craggy peak
cedar flame
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oh well died to the 3rd rn

craggy peak
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They are hard to get through at first but keep at it and you’ll be fine

lost tendon
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Does acquiring titan blood speed up after beating the final boss? The 12 from my first six and trading away my 6 ambrosia doesn’t seem like a lot compared to how much is needed for upgrades.

broken girder
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It does if you get comfortable with the weapons

lost tendon
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What are the main ways of acquiring it. Is trading 20 nectar>2diamonds>ambrosia>more blood the best way to do it?

sweet brook
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The better you get at the game the faster titan blood comes in, and since you're always improving it will always be faster

lost tendon
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Oh do I get more per weapon when I increase the heat level?

upbeat spoke
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one for each level for each weapon

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well two

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first and last boss

lost tendon
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Ah that makes sense

upbeat spoke
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also you can buy it sometimes in last shop

lost tendon
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I haven’t used the heat yet so I was confused

dusty vault
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There are a few prophecies that also give blood iirc

cedar delta
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15 keys for 1 blood sometimes at the broker! Good deal

dusty vault
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Always keep 15 keys with you in case-

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Yeah that one

cedar delta
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Fishing in the final area!

broken girder
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Fishing… my enemy

cedar flame
dusty vault
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Ah, chaos shield

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At lvl 1 yeah it won't feel any different

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at lvl 5 is just kinda bad

cedar flame
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so i shouldn't get it to lvl 5?

final dune
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just dont level it up

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not worth

cedar flame
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alright ty

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already leveled it up to 3 before rip

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which weapon aspects should i level up

final dune
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on shield zeus is good

cedar flame
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alright ty

final dune
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you have them for all already

cedar flame
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yeah mb didn't realize that i have to equip a weapon to see the aspects lmao

brittle ginkgo
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I al determined that poison pools are the worst thing to ever welcome me

jaunty rivet
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How do I know if by doing the dice rolling thing that I will get a god boon instead of coins ?

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Been trying to get curse of drowning for the prophecy but so far no luck

final dune
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use the other option

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much better

molten valley
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hey I can never decide while picking hermes boon on fists, which of these is the best? +3 dashes, side hustle, swift strike thanks

broken girder
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Kinda depends on your build, but more dashes mean more iframes so I would probably take that

molten valley
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thanks ❤️

weak burrow
dusty vault
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Dashes or hyper sprint into rush delivery are like the best options no matter the weapon really

naive bear
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My only goal for this game isn't to beat it but to just be knowledgeable enough to actually give good advice in this channel

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Because rn I'm about as useful as a paralysed rock climber

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weak burrow
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for me the easiest way to beat the game is zeus aspect shield

broken girder
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It is for many

weak burrow
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blovk everything

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its so cheesy

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broken girder
naive bear
weak burrow
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is it with gilgamesh

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naive bear
naive bear
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broken girder
naive bear
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||why tf does hades have to restore all his health and be stronger when u get him to 1% health its hard enough getting to him||

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naive bear
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Spoiler for final boss

broken girder
naive bear
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naive bear
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naive bear
naive bear
broken girder
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He is a good dad

still nacelle
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Stubborn is worse compared to Death Defiance

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broken girder
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still nacelle
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Unless you used lasting consequences 4

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Dd is always better

naive bear
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But stubborn defiance with some touch of styx is just death defiance but for every chamber

still nacelle
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Just don’t get hit then

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Said hypnos

broken girder
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naive bear
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I got recommended this video about hades max heat being completed wtf does that mean

weak burrow
still nacelle
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I’m kidding but you realistically only use death defiance at boss

broken girder
opaque scroll
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But I personally also use High Confidence and Ruthless Reflex to maximise damage.

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opaque scroll
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Basically the game hasn't even started for you.

naive bear
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No I've been absolutely screwed over by redacted

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broken girder
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What’s the issue with redacted?

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gritty elm
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My mirror of the night things are shadow presence, chthonic vitality, death defiance, greater reflex, boiling blood, infernal soul, deep pockets, thick skin, priveleged status, dark foresight, god's legacy and fated authority
What should I change in those?

dusty vault
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Legacy for pride and authorithy for persuasion

naive bear
gritty elm
broken girder
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opaque scroll
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I'm genuinely brain dead

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I'm so sorry for whoever got spoiled by that

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Damn

gritty elm
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Uh how do I get special aspects

naive bear
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@gritty elm I just realised u have a geometry dash profile picture right

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naive bear
gritty elm
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I meant hidden aspects ops

broken girder
dusty vault
gritty elm
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Oh ok ty

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naive bear
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What other aspect combos are there bcs I'm a bit tired of using shield I wanna use spear or the nes power gloves

broken girder
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|| What attack did you have the most issues with? ||

dusty vault
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For fists dem os the hest aspect but they all play quite the same

naive bear
broken girder
dusty vault
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Use merciful end/zeus attack and what not

broken girder
naive bear
naive bear
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It's hermes keepsake right

dusty vault
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Yeah

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naive bear
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Yea I got it

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opaque scroll
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Usually I say aii, tbh.

naive bear
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broken girder
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|| Simplest for fists is basically plume and zag fists, along with Athena dash and aphro or dio attack, and that boon from hermes that gives additional dodge rate ||

naive bear
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What does zag fists do

dusty vault
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+15% dodge

broken girder
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You can also go for a merciful end built but it’s very luck depending or I’m just terribly unlucky

naive bear
dusty vault
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The joke is just stacking dodge chance

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It can work but if your boons are awful you'll barely get plume to proc

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broken girder
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It’s the duo boon of ares and Athena

naive bear
dusty vault
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If enemy has doom and you hit them with any deflect ability doom procs instantly

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Instead of waiting

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broken girder
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Can you get merciful end with Athena only on dash?

wooden dirge
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nope

dusty vault
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No

wooden dirge
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attk or special

dusty vault
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It was nerfed to not have dash as requisite

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You can guess why

opaque scroll
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Yeah, prolly go for Zeus build to be safe.

broken girder
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That explains it

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Can I get dash afterwards tho?

dusty vault
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Yes

opaque scroll
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You gotta build your mirror more to optimally force duos.

dusty vault
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You want the dash

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So you can dash strike to inflict doom and instant proc

naive bear
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How do I see the reqs for duos

broken girder
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Yes, I’ll try to do it today perhaps I’ll get more lucky…

opaque scroll
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Divine Dash Addiction is real, get help kids.

dusty vault
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Do you have the codex upgrade yet

broken girder
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naive bear
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naive bear
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Wait maybe I do

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What's the codex again

broken girder
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That book

dusty vault
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The journal

broken girder
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With all the info

naive bear
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Oh yea i have the codex

dusty vault
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C on keyboard I think

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Yeah but the boon requisites is an upgrade

naive bear
dusty vault
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Check an olympian's page and see if at the bottom there's a "press - to see boon list"

naive bear
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I may have some pretty dodgy opinions but the most based opinion is that the styx boss fight is the best by far

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dusty vault
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Styx as in the final boss?

wooden dirge
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now i wanna see what's my most used boon is

dusty vault
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Or the mini bosses

broken girder
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It is the best

dusty vault
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Mine is tidal dash bouldy

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naive bear
broken girder
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I remember the time I tried to beat [redacted] with only tidal dash

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naive bear
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broken girder
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Tidal is also really good

naive bear
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Which cast boon gives cast the most damage

dusty vault
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Hunter is solid on bows

broken girder
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Bc of those annoying skulls

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# naive bear WHAT

Less of a fight, more of you getting mowed down by the goodest boi, but essentially yes.

naive bear
dusty vault
opaque scroll
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Been a while since I played.

naive bear
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Ok thanks I always thought it was athena

broken girder
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If you had hunter dash on fists, does it boost the entire combo or only first punch? You hold the button down like the bow after all

dusty vault
broken girder
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Oh alr

dusty vault
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Also tidal dash is an easy way to destroy styx

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dusty vault
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Get breaking wave and watch as the enemies play ping pong on themselves

broken girder
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I wanna try full knockback fists too, there’s just so much to do with fists

opaque scroll
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The knockback makes it arguably as good as Divine Dash.

dusty vault
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Crowd control

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naive bear
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Bloody hell why is my English so bad today

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Syrian refugees probably know more than me

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broken girder
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That got nothing to do with English dw

dusty vault
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More than english I think is just unkown slang lol

wooden dirge
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it's hyper sprint

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second is dd lol

dusty vault
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Oh yeah hyper sprint is also on my top picks

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Prob 2nd?

naive bear
broken girder
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That’s hades slang tho

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Not something people would actually use I think

opaque scroll
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Gen Z is literally another language at a certain point.

wooden dirge
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grue

broken girder
weak burrow
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broken girder
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I do sometimes too, it’s even worse bc people here don’t even speak English…

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Aphro Aid 1st
PP 2nd
3rd Divine Dash.

naive bear
dusty vault
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Aphro call???

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How

broken girder
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Where do you even see that?

dusty vault
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Admin chamber

broken girder
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Oh

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Btw @naive bear Some other builds are:
Yo-yo Fist Talos fists + Pos Special
Flurry Slash is really good on spear and I personally get Extended Jab to embarass enemies.

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Plus I feel like Aphro is hella underrated, she's one of the best gods in the game.

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dusty vault
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Yo yo talos is fun until you get to a boss

broken girder
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3 chambers in and I’m already down to 15hp I’m terrible today

dusty vault
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Where you cry at the lack of dmg

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broken girder
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12 but it’s simple things

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Im trying to go just with tidal dash

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dusty vault
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The best thing is play it like the other fists bouldy

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My hottest take is that Gilga is best fists.

wooden dirge
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that sure is a take

broken girder
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I just build better with it, it was made for me.

broken girder
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I just got that second cast duo boon, I don’t even have a cast yet, do I take it?

wooden dirge
dusty vault
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Mirage shot always sneaks on random builds lmao

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dusty vault
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If you are trying to set up sea storm might as well

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Also from what god did you get it

broken girder
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Poseidon

dusty vault
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Do you have razor shoals/breaking wave?

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Might be worth to roll for either

broken girder
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The others are that the knockback effects do that weird damage thing 20 per 0,2 seconds and cast, both of them are epic

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All three are good

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I never had this problem

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I just gave tidal dash and Artemis aid

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Nothing else

dusty vault
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Razor shoals does lot of dmg

broken girder
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It’s chamber 5

wooden dirge
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breaking wave is good

broken girder
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So, let the duo boon rest for now?

wooden dirge
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which aspect and build

dusty vault
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Hidden fists tidal dash it seems?

broken girder
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Zag fists and as much knockback as possible

dusty vault
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Oh zag fists

broken girder
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I don’t have hidden yet bc that Minotaur doesn’t wanna give me words

dusty vault
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dusty vault
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Shoals/Beaver will help more

broken girder
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Alright thank you

dusty vault
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Only duo you want (but don't really shoot for) is sea storm

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Cuz wet dash doesn't open it

still nacelle
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Wet dash is crap, especially with heighten security

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I throw a lot of run because of ||pots||

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Or it just me but I will take hunter dash over wet dash everytime

dusty vault
#

Just you but also depends on weapon

wooden dirge
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high heat problems

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it's still funny how hs in 1 heat but also one of the worst pacts

still nacelle
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Without it, wet dash is top tier no doubt

knotty sphinx
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hehe moist dash

still nacelle
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I just have love-hate relationship with poseidon

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broken girder
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I got it again

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broken girder
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All 3 good again

knotty sphinx
wooden dirge
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what r the other 2

broken girder
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Obv it only happens in an experimental run

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Uh the one that gives extra damage if you push them into walls and Poseidon attack

dusty vault
#

I don't like thyphoon really

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It doesn't feel the same as B.wave

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Attack will eventually open sea storm if you run into zeus

still nacelle
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Typhoon is not bad, just bwave being broken

broken girder
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So attack or duo?

dusty vault
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No reason to take duo

broken girder
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True

wooden dirge
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is beaver the one that can instaphase redacted with demeter?

dusty vault
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Unless to sell/keep so it doesn't bother you more

dusty vault
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Funny pillar thing

broken girder
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I’ll take attack anyway, I need some sort of damage against the first boss now

dusty vault
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Also spoiler the name

wooden dirge
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whoops

broken girder
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Uh that was quick, this build might actually be good holy

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dusty vault
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Tidal dash good

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knotty sphinx
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With the heat I'm on rn, I'm either dead before Elysium or unbeatable if I reach it.

broken girder
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I kinda feel like my controls might actually be good for this build, I have dash on left trigger and attack on right

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dusty vault
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Also why are we in the new players channel still

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knotty sphinx
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dusty vault
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I don't think most people talking here rn can be spoiled bouldy

knotty sphinx
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broken girder
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Uh you mean the controls or?

knotty sphinx
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that should be a skin

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knotty sphinx
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pee dash

weak burrow
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my favorite part about today is that fact that i have died to the last phase of hades 6 times

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when he was on 5%

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still nacelle
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Change sea storm dash into yellow seem like a cursed feature fr if they implement it

broken girder
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Uh aid on A the help thing on the lower cross cast on b and the rest you know already or is standard

knotty sphinx
weak burrow
broken girder
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Alright this Poseidon attack and dash combo is really good

dusty vault
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dash may be doing the heavy job there

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broken girder
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Yes a few

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broken girder
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No passives I think

weak burrow
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13 times

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😔

broken girder
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Oh i died to the hydra

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It still takes time getting used to em2

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weak burrow
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i ususally beat hades prettey consistently with this up until 10 heat

still nacelle
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I wouldn’t recommend 🦋 especially melee weapon

weak burrow
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why

still nacelle
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Because the damage is addtive, you have way less control of your build

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And you have to keep it the entire run to even get the benefit

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still nacelle
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20% is quite good on nemesis ngl

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But you can just by a jerky from charon and save yourself from the hassle of playing hitless

sweet brook
# weak burrow why

It's a lot of effort for a pretty mid damage bonus and no control of your build lmao

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You're likely to get more damage from a good build rather than butterfly

weak burrow
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its works the best for me

steady lark
weak burrow
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and i usually stop getting bonuses after asphodel

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still nacelle
sweet brook
honest yew
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Hi whats the best way to reset? Like for example on an attempt to do a run when the boon showcase are bad

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How to reset instance

dusty vault
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Just afk near an enemy/trap

weak burrow
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idk what they do

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it took me a while to know and use chaos so

dusty vault
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If you mean like getting a specific thing chamber 1, use ||heightened security and routine inspection 4||

weak burrow
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dusty vault
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Your mirror is all meta choices

still nacelle
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2 dash peasant can’t play 1 dash zagsad

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dusty vault
dusty vault
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Not a peasant thing

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sweet brook
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The mirror is fine as is, just switch SD to DD

stoic raven
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The work order costs 5 diamonds

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Pretty sure

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still nacelle
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People from the cult of Dionysus sure is built different

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fringe trail
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like, yeah, the lava sucks, but it makes the secondary heads spawn closer to each other, so it can be easier to kill multiple of them at once

sweet brook
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yeah that sounds about right

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speedrunners take em2 because of that lmao

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not because it's easier but because the heads are closer

fringe trail
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it also makes the green ones less reliable

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cause I've seen them just throw the little rock things into the lava on EM2

cedar delta
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It's so satisfying when they just sink into the lava

cedar flame
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how to unlock the hidden aspects

fringe trail
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iirc you need to invest blood into spear 1st

cedar flame
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i don't have blood left

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already got the "free" blood with all weapons

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i was at last boss rn but failed

fringe trail
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put 5 blood into spear (aspect doesn't matter) and then at some point someone will give you the ability to unlock the hidden spear aspect

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after hidden spear aspect is unlocked, you just need to put 5 blood into the respective weapon and eventually a character will give you what you need to unlock the aspect for that weapon

cedar flame
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rip i won't be able to get more blood until i beat last boss right

fringe trail
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you get blood for beating the run, yes

cedar flame
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rip

fringe trail
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it's ok, you'll get there eventually

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this game is hard

cedar flame
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i could get guan yu aspect rn if i wouldn't have leveled chaos shield

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fml

dusty vault
# cedar flame rip i won't be able to get more blood until i beat last boss right

beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood
final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood
other sources: trading for it at lounge (1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop

cedar flame
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yeah already got furies blood with all 6 weapons unfortunately and i'm not able to beat hades yet

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and i still need keys for the mirror

dusty vault
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You can probably squeeze unlocking hidden spear through any of this methods but doubt ypu'll be able to unlock anything else after

cedar delta
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You'll get plenty more blood in a jiffy after your first win. Don't you worry!

dusty vault
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Still good to keep in mind

cedar delta
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I'd practice getting good at fishing in case you get lucky after the final boss

cedar flame
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final boss was literally 1hit but got killed then

dusty vault
cedar flame
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death defiance was already used twice

dusty vault
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Also yeah fishing in the last boss area can net you 1 extra blood

cedar flame
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is fishing important?

cedar delta
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Fishing in general is fantastic for meta currency, including keys!

dusty vault
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^

cedar delta
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Yes, it's pretty darn important if you want to farm meta currencies quickly

cedar flame
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so i should just clear a room and fish a bit?

dusty vault
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Tart/styx give gems, aspho gives keys, elysium gives nectar, chaos gives darkness

cedar delta
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You should take every fishing point possible if you're still farming lots of currencies

dusty vault
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And last boss area gives diamond/ambrosia/blood

cedar delta
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Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

cedar flame
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are the fishing points marked?

dusty vault
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Yes

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Is a bright dot in the water

cedar flame
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alright ty

dusty vault
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At the start of a chamber or at the end of one there's also a ding sound

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That indicates if there's a fishing spot

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Can also buy skeleton lures from charon wells

cedar delta
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You do need to have purchased the Fishing Rod from the contractor, by the way

cedar flame
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yeah i bought it like 1h ago but didn't fish since then

cedar delta
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Oh good thing we caught you soon after you purchased the rod

cedar flame
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yeah good timing xD

cedar delta
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Where'd the Nyaanyaa go?

final dune
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banned

naive bear
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how much endgame stuff after the final boss is there

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also whats the replayability like

broken girder
broken girder
naive bear
stoic raven
naive bear
stoic raven
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yes

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there is still a lot of content outside of heat

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heat itself has a lot of content as opposed to other games, since you choose how the game gets harder

naive bear
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just how hard is max heat theres no way only 1 person has beat it

sweet brook
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and also the odds of getting a viable run is super low

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viable runs meaning getting the right boons

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not accounting for bad enemy rng and skips

dusty vault
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There's a video by haelian explaining why is it so hard and rare

naive bear
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what does max heat do does it give zag like 1hp and -80% damage or smthing

dusty vault
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Which funny enough it was a week before it happened bouldy

sweet brook
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and 60% more enemies, all with 30% more hp

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that deal 100% more damage

dusty vault
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A time limit

sweet brook
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and you're on a timer of 5 min per region

naive bear
sweet brook
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the average player doesn't get past like chamber 5 at max heat lmao

sweet brook
naive bear
dusty vault
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Also applies to hammers and poms

broken girder
naive bear
naive bear
sweet brook
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for heat runners at least

stoic raven
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to get 64 heat, youd need:
to be good(not great) at speedrunning due to limited boons choices, forced purges, extra enemy health, harder bosses/minibosses, and a tight timer

be god at the game

have good rng with thunder flourish

sweet brook
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forced purges aren't that big of a deal

naive bear
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imagine if some sadist made a mod where it goes up to 100 heat

sweet brook
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that does exist

dusty vault
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Just play early access hades too

sweet brook
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although it goes up to 99 i think lmao

stoic raven
sweet brook
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it doesnt

stoic raven
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oh then its fine

naive bear
sweet brook
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i think it was just a different heat system

dusty vault
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Yeah

sweet brook
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although i do remember certain stuff being like "bruh wtf" lmao

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in terms of difficulty

dusty vault
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Funny numbers mainly

cedar flame
#

i defeat final boss omggg

sweet brook
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big gamer

stoic raven
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🎉

broken girder
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Congrats

stoic raven
#

epic manual emoji fail

cedar flame
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btw what should i keep in mind for getting good builds? so should i focus on one god etc

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tyty guys

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shield carried me through this fight lmao

stoic raven
cedar flame
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uhm guys

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i got pranked

sweet brook
sweet brook
cedar flame
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there is a second phase?..

stoic raven
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no

broken girder
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Oh…

cedar flame
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uhm well

dusty vault
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Nice

cedar flame
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let's hope i'll get this lmao

sweet brook
naive bear
broken girder
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Good luck

stoic raven
broken girder
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Both of you

sweet brook
naive bear
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im getting a mix of deja vu and ptsd from this

cedar flame
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i'm dead

broken girder
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Oh

cedar flame
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got caught by one of those green things and beamed out of my life

broken girder
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You’ll get them next time

naive bear
sweet brook
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classic

cedar flame
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btw where can i exchange my fish

sweet brook
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lounge

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the chef

broken girder
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The cook

cedar flame
#

got some legendarys this run

lost tendon
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Does anyone have advice on which hidden aspects are good, like in the pinned message?

cedar flame
#

ty

naive bear
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nevermind im too late ffs

stoic raven
broken girder
stoic raven
broken girder
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Thanks

sweet brook
naive bear
sweet brook
naive bear
sweet brook
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because that's after first claer

broken girder
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It’s meant to be hidden…

sweet brook
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tbf all the ||heat|| stuff we talked about earlier was supposed to be a spoiler lmao

dusty vault
naive bear
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i mean i havent got them but they dont seem to mess with the story

dusty vault
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No need to beat them

sweet brook
dusty vault
stoic raven
naive bear
dusty vault
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Just we have new but not so new and less mods watching here

stoic raven
#

ive only everr seen alma

dusty vault
cedar flame
#

what can i do with ambrosia

dusty vault
#

That aside a conversation with Than confirms that Zag dash is basically a short range teleport

stoic raven
dusty vault
broken girder
naive bear
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istg if i dont beat the final boss the next time i get to him im cutting off my left nutsack.....place your bets everyone will i be able to have children

broken girder
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No I’m sorry but my bet is on no

dusty vault
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Just avoid hits and keeping your health above 0

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While you reduce their hp to 0

broken girder
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Try not to get hit so much

stoic raven
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my strat was not facetanking

lost tendon
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What are some good ways to build ||aspect of Lucifer||? I mainly have trouble focusing on dashing and holding attack, or spamming special.

naive bear
broken girder
dusty vault
stoic raven
broken girder
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Pro tip, listen to Hypnos

naive bear
dusty vault
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No problem

broken girder
#

Hypnos is the best advisor out there

stoic raven
naive bear
broken girder
#

So I’m the only one that took 40 runs to reach the dude and about 50 to defeat him?

naive bear
#

i just wanna find one game where im actually "good" i still havent found it

dusty vault
#

Escaped at my 45th run

stoic raven
broken girder
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I mean I never gave a single thought while playing, thinking about it now I probably could’ve planned a bit

naive bear
stoic raven
dusty vault
#

Some top player took 50 attempts to escape

broken girder
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All my runs are like, oh this sounds nice let’s see what happens

dusty vault
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Tl;dr don't compare yourself too much to others and it doesn't really matter (on escape count)

stoic raven
naive bear
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im only doing well bcs im just using zeus shield and zeus boons

naive bear
dusty vault
stoic raven
#

im still pretty bad, id say my hollow knight is MUCH better

cedar flame
#

got dead cells last week i beat 5bc today lol

stoic raven
#

average baseball bat abuser

cedar flame
#

nah did it with assassin dagger

naive bear
stoic raven
#

its ok we all suck at something

broken girder
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Or everything (in my case)

sweet brook
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lmao i suck at dead cells dw

naive bear
sweet brook
#

you're like barely 20-25 runs into hades chill

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also like

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single player game

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who cares

cedar flame
stoic raven
#

20-25 runs is great

cedar flame
#

i love how i got legendary boon for 20% more fishing chance but keep getting rooms without water

steady lark
#

It took me 87 attempts to escape

naive bear
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problem is im way to competitive but im too crap to be competitive © (yea take that @broken girder )

stoic raven
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final dune
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this is the only game im "good" at

final dune
honest yew
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Does mirage shot work with crystal beam?

dusty vault
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Yeah

cedar flame
#

are there like recommended gods for each weapon?

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so on which gods should i focus with malphon for example

dusty vault
leaden whale
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i usually go artemis for attack

cedar flame
#

so in general:
slow weapons with good dmg go % boons like for example the one in poseidon
fast weapons go status effects like ares/zeus

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is that right?

dusty vault
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Yup

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Just not poseidon bouldy

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Lowest % bonus moment

cedar flame
#

yeah i realized i fckin hate the knockback lmao

final dune
#

yeah poseidon attack is rlly bad

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also the lowest boost

leaden whale
#

poseidon cast is rly good

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very large splash

cedar flame
#

most fun run for me yet was exagryph with ares boons

dusty vault
#

Cast/dash are nice yup

leaden whale
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whenever i use demeter fists i always look for aphrodite special

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shes got the highest dmg boost

cedar flame
#

i never gave attention to aphrodite yet tbh

dusty vault
#

Weak is comfy

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Also her duo with zeus is run winning

leaden whale
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i think it never hurts to have weak

cedar flame
#

how to get duos? just saw 2 yet

leaden whale
#

anything that helps with survivability is good

dusty vault
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Needs one core from each god for most of them basically

cedar flame
#

wdym by core?

dusty vault
#

Some a bit more specific (Merciful end doesn't open with dash or cast/smoldering air needs a call)

dusty vault
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Atk/special/cast/dash/call

leaden whale
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smoldering air is nice

leaden whale
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pairs great with billowing call

dusty vault
#

There's an upgrade that you can get from work orders that gives your codex a boon list

cedar flame
#

i'd say ares is definitely my favorite yet i just like his boons

dusty vault
#

Is like 50 gems

leaden whale
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ares is neat, its fun to stack the doom damage

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ive never rly had much success with the blade rifts ngl

dusty vault
#

Ares is fun for hunting blades

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Doom kinda lame

leaden whale
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i got two cast boosts from chaos once my rifts were doing insane dmg

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still lost that run lol

cedar flame
#

are hermes boons important?

leaden whale
#

never hurts to have hermes

cedar flame
#

what about chaos?

dusty vault
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Depends on build but basically always good

dusty vault
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And they are great too

cedar flame
#

i like the dash increasing boon

dusty vault
#

Yeah +dashes is great

leaden whale
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im a fan of the raw move speed tbh

cedar flame
#

that's nice aswell

dusty vault
#

There's also hyper sprint (+100% move speed after dadh and sturdy), which opens rush delivery

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Which converts speed into global dmg

cedar flame
#

i don't like the one which gives you 100% movement speed for 0,5seconds after dash

dusty vault
#

Thats hyper sprint squirtnya

leaden whale
#

i used to not like that one

cedar flame
#

i thought i beat the final boss today

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then i realized there is a 2nd phase lmao

dusty vault
#

Hyper Sprint+ rush delivery even at common rarity is a 50% DMG increase to anything that comes from zagreus

leaden whale
#

that happened to me as well lol

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i think it happened to a lot of us

dusty vault
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So not only his weapon but things like zeus stuff or your dash

leaden whale
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i died to the initial wave he gives off

cedar flame
dusty vault
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Your move speed is converted into dmg
50/75/100% of your move speed is converted into dmg depending on rarity

cedar flame
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ohh damn that sounds op

dusty vault
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Hermes boon opened by sprint/greater haste or his keepsake

leaden whale
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for the all directional beams u can even stand on top of him

cedar flame
dusty vault
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Also to be even more fun

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Movement speed is multiplicative

leaden whale
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i didnt know that tbh

dusty vault
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So if you buy any ichor from charon welll....

cedar flame
#

btw which keepsake should i use? i use the raw hp one currently because i just don't know which one i should use

leaden whale
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no wonder i was going crazy fast when i had two ichors

leaden whale
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when u max it out, 30% dmg reduction from the front, but +10% dmg from the back

dusty vault
#

The meta for keepsakes is like
God that starts build>(aspho) 2nd god to compliment>ely and styx go acorn (eurydice) for defense

cedar flame
#

so i should a boon keepsake for start?

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use*

dusty vault
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Yeah

cedar flame
#

alright ty

dusty vault
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Also helps them getting them in your god pool

cedar flame
#

that's quite good to know

craggy peak
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I would use the god keepsake only if you know what build or boon you want to start don’t just choose any random one

dusty vault
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Yeah that ^

craggy peak
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The autocorrect

dusty vault
#

starting tidal dash can work for most thing too lol

leaden whale
#

i didnt know the meta was two god boons tbh, i always switched to ||pom blossom|| on the 2nd floor

dusty vault
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Should spoiler that one

leaden whale
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lol mb

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dont google that lol