It took me abt 40-50
#h1-for-new-players
thorn furnace
It took me abt 40-50
im at 62, and i still cant get past dad aha
even at 33, still struggling with daddy issues 
craggy peak
try sheild
thorn furnace
try sheild
i typically like ranged style of gameplay, in most games 
shield just feels weird to me
craggy peak
it’s a bit cheesy but you can just turtle and block attacks
thorn furnace
ive really enjoyed the spear
craggy peak
Charged shot deadulus gives you ranged attack
Spear can be fun
Even one dad clear let’s you get a lot more blood for upgrades
thorn furnace
yea i have 2-3x kills on spear than any other weapon lmao
thorn furnace
Even one dad clear let’s you get a lot more blood for upgrades
how so?
craggy peak
Once you beat dad, there is a way to get boss rewards again
thorn furnace
also, what should i focus with shield build?
craggy peak
Whatever you want
I recommended sheild because it can block
And you would prob get better info on that from someone else here
thorn furnace
I recommended sheild because it can block
forgot you could also throw shield
craggy peak
That too
thorn furnace
got a decent daedalus upgrade that lets it bounce 4 extra times, and paired with some lightning/jolt dps
thorn furnace
If you like special, I recommend chaos aspect
how do i get that? and yea, im a big special/cast abuser lol
craggy peak
You unlocked aspects right
thorn furnace
i just dont really know how to really abuse that in Hades
thorn furnace
You unlocked aspects right
i think?
craggy peak
They change how the weapon looks
And some other parts of it
Hope you still have titan blood
final dune
Zeus aspect is great too
and also a lot better
final dune
got a decent daedalus upgrade that lets it bounce 4 extra times, and paired with...
dread flight is typically avoided because the time your special is in the air means you can’t block or attack
thorn furnace
dread flight is typically avoided because the time your special is in the air me...
ah thats fair
im pretty noobish when it comes to build layout and such
final dune
you can check out the pinned build guide in #h1-builds-and-combat
thorn furnace
you can check out the pinned build guide in <#520688402958516254>
what would you suggest as to helping make 3rd/4th boss a tad easier the first few kills?
final dune
just build fundamentals will get you there
thorn furnace
ive cleared 3 multiple times, still trying to clear dad
craggy peak
I said sheild because of blocking
final dune
do you have rail yet
craggy peak
it was what I got first clear with
Maybe not best weapon but blocking is a good crutch
final dune
if you have rail and zeus keepsake a really easy recipe is just zeus attack
hold the attack button and go off
special every reload
you want the supporting boon static discharge from zeus
and to level that up a few times
craggy peak
That feels more like a crowd clearer than a boss killer
craggy peak
Anyway #h1-builds-and-combat
final dune
and it’s not fists which keeps you in melee range
thorn furnace
if you have rail and zeus keepsake a really easy recipe is just zeus attack
i have rail, but no aspect on it yet
final dune
don’t need
although eris is very strong and simple
just stand in the special for a huge buff
thorn furnace
i may have made a somewhat noob mistake by putting 3 blood into aspect of zagreus for spear lmao
thorn furnace
what should i be focusing on grinding out, other than darkness i assume?
smoky yarrow
Keys
You done with key unlocks?
You want all weapons and mirror skills unlocked asap
thorn furnace
You done with key unlocks?
unsure, how many weapon unlocks are there?
thorn pecan
there are 6 weapons in total
smoky yarrow
Last mirror unlock uses 30 keys
thorn furnace
Last mirror unlock uses 30 keys
which one is that?
smoky yarrow
as long as you see God's Pride or God's Legacy, you're good
thorn furnace
as long as you see God's Pride or God's Legacy, you're good
thats the last unlock?
thorn furnace
i mean cmon...30 keys
? im unsure why 30 keys is a big deal?
bright timber
what is yall fav acepcts (of the starting 3)
bright timber
oh which weapons?
smoky yarrow
Hestia here
I do love Achilles as well
perfect for cast runs
So far my highest heat clear is Achilles
with Beo and Hestia waiting to be 2nd place
thorn furnace
actually pulling off the crystal beam build, might be able to get first clear
we shall see
smoky yarrow
it is kind of a pain to do Rift runs with Achilles if I fail to get Hunting Blades
btw are crystal beams also good with Achilles?
smoky yarrow
of course.
Ares has a ton of boons for rifts
HB just lessens the amount of throwing you do
leaden whale
restarting hades again at a full pace grind
just completed arkham collection a few days ago
weee im excited
opaque scroll
just completed arkham collection a few days ago
Noice!
earnest obsidian
Is it good to give necter to the shop keeper guy?
lost cedar
When I can start upgrading my weapon's should I focus on one weapon at first or Put some upgrades all around
craggy peak
Upgrade what you use use the most, and unlock some other aspects too
The autocorrect my god
final dune
it depends on aspect
some require a big dump to be effective like hestia
while others are effective at low blood like hera
earnest obsidian
Is there a way to get perma rapid fire for bow?
daring adder
Should I get 65% more damage on cast or extra cast
final dune
generally you want to take epic/rare cast % > grasp > common cast %
on cast builds ofc
daring adder
generally you want to take epic/rare cast % > grasp > common cast %
Both epic
daring adder
Alr so the 65%?
final dune
yea
daring adder
Sorry if I sound stupid I’m tired
final dune
np
lapis harbor
what is bouldy's ambiguity bonus? does it do anything?
hollow gorge
Should I get 65% more damage on cast or extra cast
What build was this?
hollow gorge
what is bouldy's ambiguity bonus? does it do anything?
Think it's been confirmed to do nothing
daring adder
What build was this?
Already beat hades but it was Poseidon aspect
hollow gorge
Ah
The tradeoffs for any cast build with that are interesting. Pos gives you 50% cast bonus already, and Achilles would give you 150. But both take time to cast extra stones where the loading aspects that don't need time for extra stones also don't have a base % boost
next latch
if ||beo's|| damage increase was on cast instead of attack it would be SSSS
hollow gorge
Poor hera would feel so left out.
next latch
She'd want to be unique
hollow gorge
if ||beo's|| damage increase was on cast instead of attack it would be SSSS
They could do that and then just halve all flare damage. Would make trippy hera sad though
golden roost
You guys know what these marker-looking things after beating the game, and what they do? https://imgur.com/a/3WR4F74
final dune
they let you select which things to display on your victory screen
golden roost
Oh, I thought it does something like increases your odds at finding certain boons lol
fading marten
Abyssal Eclipse & Oceans Bounty DO Stack, Right... ?
(both increase future Darkness & Gems)
dusty vault
yes
hollow gorge
I'm guessing additively
fading marten
Thank you !! 😎
hollow gorge
What does the gold bonus apply to? Seems like everything but side hustle
fading marten
As opposed to..?
hollow gorge
As opposed to..?
Additively? As opposed to multiplicatively. Does having two 50% boosts mean you gain 200% as much or 225% as much, basically.
fading marten
I gotcha i gotcha
craggy widget
should i use death defiance or stubborn defiance?
sweet brook
death defiance
stubborn defiance only has one purpose and it's for optional late game stuff
i guess technically it's also good at the very early game when youre still learning it, but in the long run death defiance is much better
more or less stockpile hp for boss fights since that's probably gonna be the part where you struggle with the most
craggy widget
iron ivy
i have question
why does thanatos the god of death have curtains as his hairstyle
did the devs see everyone on the internet who wants to give leon kennedy a smooch and say "all right bet"
sweet brook
Doors of death but windows
iron ivy
i mean
final dune
good fashion sense has unfortunately not reached the underworld
sweet brook
Lmfao
iron ivy
still it cracks me up
sweet brook
Based take tbh
iron ivy
this is definitely a very good game it's not a "god DAMN this is a good game" game and it's definitely not an "i am losing my mind over this game because it is so good and i have this sinking feeling that it is becoming my new favorite but it is not my favorite genre of games which is niche jrpgs and it is far more of a mainstream and conventional choice than anything i typically like so i am going to have a mental health crisis over it with lots of shame over my new favorite thing and trouble admitting it to myself and others for months while i go on this insane bender that still lasts to this very day of just trying every type of game i can think of because my previous conceptions of liking games with good and deep and thoughtful stories was freaking shattered by the funny red guy from shin megami tensei nocturne and now i have the attention span of a goblin" game
uhhhhhhhh i think that last part was a one time thing
but on the other hand you can pet the doggie so uhhhhhh best game of all time pack it up everyone else you can all go home
final dune
hades good game
viral yarrow
can someone give a good build with harron's bow?
viral yarrow
what aspect
2
final dune
?
chiron?
at low blood the only thing that works is dionysus special
if you see it take relentless volley
aphrodite attack
low tolerance duo
pom the special a lot
it’s not exactly gonna be good but that’s just the nature of chiron really
at high blood you can also do aphrodite/poseidon/artemis special
poseidon special you need to get razor shoals
my greater recommendation would be to put the blood into hera instead though
viral yarrow
Thank you
viral yarrow
if u have any questions just ask
how to get titan blood fast?
final dune
how to get titan blood fast?
have you cleared yet
doing your prophecies can give you some good blood
other than that just do your bounties
optimize for speed
viral yarrow
Thank you
wintry fulcrum
Is there a trinket for having the weapon upgrade show up next or first in a run, super enjoy the three shot burst rifle but not so much when I need to reload it a ton
upbeat spoke
No
sometimes the hammer shows up in first room but you can't force or change that in anyway
other than dying and trying next run
fading marten
Okay so..
I use Blood-Filled Vial up Until the Last Area Then Switch to Skelly's item
(Or until i get the Doom & 0.5 Sec Doom Boost)
Pom these as much as i can.
This seems ideal to me.
Is there a better way..?
final dune
only works once to force ares
hollow gorge
Lots of better ways for different people, but if that's working for you right now, more power to you.
You'll likely be able to handle higher speeds as you play more, and then things like adding Merciful End to that will make it do damage a lot quicker, enabling you to handling higher difficulty and get quicker times.
final dune
but also doom with impending and no ME is gonna be poor dps
hollow gorge
Shield?
fading marten
Well i take Merciful End when i can get it, but i can't seem to rely on Duos
The Item only Works Once..?
final dune
the rarity bonus keeps working but it wont keep forcing ares
fading marten
Keeping it throughout won't increase the God's blessing More..?
polar finch
boon guarantee only works once per run but rarity increase stays
fading marten
Daaang. That's good info to have 😎 Thank you for that
viscid notch
You can rely on duos. Unfortunately ME is a bad example lol but it's consistent enough if you know what you're picking
polar finch
so good to switch to athena keepsake in aspho
final dune
but it'll still work until you take that god room reward
fading marten
@polar finch That's gonna be my plan next run exactly
final dune
so buying in the shop doesn't expend it
and avoiding the door with the god wont expend it
fading marten
@final dune the keepsake only works Once, but it KEEPS working if you skip the door? 🤔
final dune
it shows if it has a charge
on the left side
if it has a charge it has a 1 on it
if it's used it wont
hollow gorge
Daaang. That's good info to have 😎 Thank you for that
you'll see a little circular arrow and a 1 when the charge to force an ares room hasn't been used
Whoops Jazz just explained that
civic yarrow
I may be a fool for asking this, but that isn't going to stop me. For Zeus to mention his favor, do i have to to have his boon before talking to other gods, or do i need another god's boon and then get his?
hollow gorge
I may be a fool for asking this, but that isn't going to stop me. For Zeus to me...
Favor?
hollow gorge
I don't think either of those are pre-reqs
civic yarrow
damn, then do i just have to talk to him?
dusty vault
I may be a fool for asking this, but that isn't going to stop me. For Zeus to me...
as deranger said yeah the favor doesn't have pre reqs
some favors may be related to a prophecy and others aren't mentioned but they are in theme of the god (for example zeus is listening to other gods comments about him)
so yeah just gotta keep talking
favors are on the wiki if needed too
civic yarrow
Ty, i just havn't gotten him to ask for the others opinion, so i presumed i was missing something specific.
reef falcon
does anyone know if for the harsh conditions prophecy you have to clear with that condition or just do a run with it applied
sweet brook
Probably a clear
leaden whale
does anyone know if for the harsh conditions prophecy you have to clear with tha...
you have to clear
bright lynx
can i use fated authority to change which two gods are going to be in a trial
trying to get bad call but preferably in elysium
ive never used it so idk
viscid notch
can i use fated authority to change which two gods are going to be in a trial
Nope
It cant be used on certain doors
That’s one of them
Shops and story rooms too
bright lynx
thanks
rotund fulcrum
What are good boons to use with Varatha or Stygius?
worn escarp
What are good boons to use with Varatha or Stygius?
Have you beaten meg once yet
rotund fulcrum
I've beat Elysium with them, just struggle with Hades.
worn escarp
Ok do what aspect do you use
final dune
what aspect
rotund fulcrum
I use the aspect on Varatha that upgrades the spin attack, forget what it's called.
final dune
hades?
worn escarp
Ok
final dune
id recommend achilles
worn escarp
Yeah
final dune
it’s basically hades but better in every conceivable way
worn escarp
Do hunting blades
💯
Hol up
Hear me out
Blizzard shot
Jk
But generally try to go for a build
rotund fulcrum
I'm big noob who can't beat the game without hazard shot crutch
final dune
on both you can kinda just start artemis or aphrodite attack and go from there
on sword the damage rotation is dash strike x2 -> special
on spear it depends but on achilles you press special twice and then do your dash strikes
worn escarp
There is a super helpful guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
worn escarp
on sword the damage rotation is dash strike x2 -> special
Why does no one use the sword combo
Lmao
I mean
final dune
cause it sucks
final dune
slow and less damage
rotund fulcrum
The best runs I've had with the sword were with the double cast special
rotund fulcrum
Yeah
worn escarp
Do you understand anything about builds
rotund fulcrum
No lol
worn escarp
Ok lol
rotund fulcrum
I try and amplify one part of my build
worn escarp
Its a lot to explain
rotund fulcrum
So like the rail, I'll try and get as much special damage as possible.
worn escarp
Ok
Um
A build focuses on making certain aspects of your game stronger
By using usually 1,2 or 3 gods
And going for specific boons of theirs which synergies well together
To start you off
I would recommend the guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
By bananas
🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
rotund fulcrum
I'm reading through it and about 80% of the terms don't make sense to me
stable sluice
which ones?
worn escarp
Dang
stable sluice
you can ask here
worn escarp
Yeha
Ask all the questions you want
We can help
Ive got all night tbh
And I like helping people when I can 👍
rotund fulcrum
Lol the guide tells me that Poseidon attack boon is garbage
It's what got me my third escape 😂
worn escarp
It is though
stable sluice
well, I mean, lots of things can be mediocre but still work well enough
to get an escape
stable sluice
like streamers have done runs where the viewers actively pick the worst stuff, and they still escape, and probably at non-zero heat 🙂
rotund fulcrum
I had the Poseidon boon that makes enemies take damage when they move.
stable sluice
rupture
rotund fulcrum
So I'd bull rush with the chaos shield and it'd often wipe half them out.
stable sluice
yeah, I mean even with that, poseidon's attack boon on its own isn't that exciting without sea storm. I think garbage is an exaggeration fwiw
hollow gorge
Garbage ness is also going to be very situational
and secondary to fun anyways
Lots of fun combinations involving everything that are viable for most purposes, yeah
rotund fulcrum
The guide was very confusing but I think I got the general idea down for some builds for the melee weapons.
It also told me I suck at the game
Several times.
What I gathered is that I need to level up the keepsakes, most of them I never touch and I need to seek out specific ones
Specific gods, that is.
sweet brook
By bananas
the guide pinned in that channel isn't mine lol mine's in #h1-high-heat-strategies
worn escarp
the guide pinned in that channel isn't mine lol mine's in <#725021448426749993>
🍌🍌
@sweet brook ACTUALLY
🍌🍌
sweet brook
huh
worn escarp
INFACT
sweet brook
why'd you ping me 4 times lmao
worn escarp
I MIGHT DARE SAY 🍌🍌🍌
sweet brook
alrighty then
gentle juniper
stubborn roots or calculated risk?
final dune
stubborn roots
gentle juniper
alright thanks
hollow gorge
I love me some calc risk late game. I'd probably usually go with that one.
Unless already without dd or running non timed sd
rotund fulcrum
I Always run with dd
I suck at fighting Hades
Gotten pretty good at making it through Elysium without using a single dd, then I switch to Skelly tooth and hope I suck less than dad
sweet brook
take acorn
it'll mitigate more damage on average
guaranteed to mitigate more if you dont get hit by the adds
or at least equal
hollow gorge
Stubborn probably won't do much as it won't appear until late into that fight. Whereas if calc risk helps you avoid some face spears, it'll be a bigger difference. And help earlier too.
final dune
calc risk is fake
sweet brook
depending how experienced you are with the game, calc risk can make you screw up your timings lmao
also by extension, the more experienced you are with the game, stubborn roots is less likely to be useful
i'd take roots because of the timings thing but it's kinda just whatever
rotund fulcrum
What does acorn do again? I have it unlocked just never used it
rotund fulcrum
It mitigates the first hits of every room?
sweet brook
no only in boss fights
rotund fulcrum
Ahh okay.
sweet brook
so furies, hydra, heroes, and final
hollow gorge
And refreshes, can use it in multiple biomes
sweet brook
acorn at only 3 hits is still good in the final fight, it's just more dependent on what you get hit by lmao
but might as well use it so you can level it up
rotund fulcrum
Yeah I've been working on leveling the keepsakes
Started leveling the one from Than, it's really nice. It'd be nicer if I sucked less but alas.
I had it at 15% I think, when I finished the heroes and switched it for Skelly tooth.
final dune
that ones not too good
rotund fulcrum
How come?
rotund fulcrum
I see.
polar finch
generally its best to use god keepsakes in the beginning regions so you can get the right boons
rotund fulcrum
I used the Aphrodite call for my 3rd escape, the Max gage damage was awesome
bright lynx
nyx just told me i need to upgrade || eldest sigil|| and she was going to put an order with the house contractor for it. when i went to the house contractor i cant find the order for ||3142|| darkness
devout breach
generally after a conversation the action is available after the next run
bright lynx
youre right i just got it
leaden whale
are beating bosses with different weapons and trading ambrosia the only ways to get more titan blood?
hollow gorge
Fated prophecies
leaden whale
whats that?
hollow gorge
Special offers at the broker
dusty vault
are beating bosses with different weapons and trading ambrosia the only ways to ...
beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood
final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood
other sources: trading for it at lounge (1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
leaden whale
beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood
f...
so i do need to use every weapon at least once, aw man
hollow gorge
whats that?
The thing in your room by the mirror that's like an achievements systen
worn escarp
You might not have it
leaden whale
The thing in your room by the mirror that's like an achievements systen
oh the list ok
hollow gorge
so i do need to use every weapon at least once, aw man
Need to use every weapon a lot if you want to get all the blood fast
Well, I guess you could focus one for 21 successes
But after that
leaden whale
Need to use every weapon a lot if you want to get all the blood fast
i kinda only use sword and spear tbh
hollow gorge
If that's what you're having the most fun with, more power to you
Dark thirst slightly incentivize swapping around.
And the blood incentibe isn't necessarily an incentive until 21 successes on a weapon. You'll learn more about that after your first clear.
random copper
i kinda only use sword and spear tbh
you get 2 titan blood at the most from each weapon before credits and ||pact of punishment||
craggy peak
Three with trade
bright lynx
heroic deadly flourish vs epic thunder flourish with rama? its lvl 4
final dune
thunder flourish all the way
deadly flourish is a tiny little boost
thunder flourish is great for clearing little guys
bright lynx
yeah but im @ hades now so not sure if thunder effects are worth atp
final dune
still better damage by farrrrr
bright lynx
alr thanks
sweet brook
me and the boys critting for 15 damage
or whatever
lvl 1 common thunder flourish is 30 damage lmao
bright lynx
artemis always ups my boons to heroic when im @ charon
sweet brook
if you have static discharge that's easily another uh i think like 56 damage at lvl 1 common
bright lynx
doesnt feel like it rama feels very weak compared to sm like hera
bright lynx
yeah i got that and the jolted one
final dune
doesnt feel like it rama feels very weak compared to sm like hera
what's your build
bright lynx
both at epic
sweet brook
doesnt feel like it rama feels very weak compared to sm like hera
they're kinda on par-ish
sweet brook
hera is better at single target burst, rama has better chunk aoe damage
final dune
you can usually take out each wave in one or two shots
sweet brook
depending on level
rama is harder to learn tho so i can see where you're coming from
bright lynx
what's your build
how would i send
sweet brook
image link
take a screenshot, send to a different private server, and copy link
or upload to imgur
bright lynx
bright lynx
only bad thing is dio dash
couldnt find deflect dash
sweet brook
athena or artemis dash would've been good
arty for more damage
is that chain shot and relentless volley?
sweet brook
fair enough
yeah the only thing that's not great is the dash
poms on static discharge would've been good as well tho
bright lynx
if i were playing chiron it would feel better but rama doesnt feel like all that
maxed too
sweet brook
less on thunder flourish, more on static discharge
attack poms are fine, but maybe would've put 1 on static discharge
sweet brook
if i were playing chiron it would feel better but rama doesnt feel like all that
chiron kinda not great compared to the other bows
final dune
need peeber pom
bright lynx
less on thunder flourish, more on static discharge
attack poms are fine, but may...
unfortuntely didnt have the option and no skulls
sweet brook
unfortunate
bright lynx
chiron kinda not great compared to the other bows
yeah ik but chiron is more straightfoward rama feels exteremly hit or miss, my dps isnt doing to well on this build
sweet brook
rama does have a harder learning curve yeah
if you learn rama very well it's an extremely strong aspect
bright lynx
is it more consistent to get a good build over hera?
sweet brook
despite the slow charge it's excellent for speedrunning, and for heat it's one of the best for climbing past like 40
sweet brook
is it more consistent to get a good build over hera?
def not
bright lynx
hera just feels op the way i can get crush shot and run through the wohle thing in 15 minutes
sweet brook
yeah
bright lynx
what is the ideal hammer for rama
sweet brook
hera is better for speed but falls short on heat
sweet brook
what is the ideal hammer for rama
twin or triple
twin is better than triple but triple is a good fall back
after that you want point blank or perfect
between those two it's personal preference
bright lynx
i get it twin would def make everything easier
sweet brook
doubling your damage kinda good
bright lynx
would flurry shot be any good on rama?
bright lynx
oh damn
sweet brook
there's a mod that lets you test incompatible things
sweet brook
maybe but eh
i think you'd still want twin
even if flurry was compatible
1 fat chunk is better than like 3 slower chunks
bright lynx
yup might give it another try after this hades fight
true
thanks for all this info got me convinced to play it more 👍
next latch
there's a mod that lets you test incompatible things
what does Flurry Delta Spread fire look like
final dune
probably either 60% faster 3 round bursts with infinite ammo or 60% faster 3 round bursts with 6/18 ammo
sweet brook
Like they'd all work together pretty well lmao
bright lynx
for hypnos favor do i actually need to die to thesus and asterius
i have a streak of 45 i think and im not losing htat
sullen ingot
Hey everyone, even if I completed the game some times, I'm still completely noob. I'm gathering a lot of Nectar. Who should I give them to at first? And then? I gave them to Thanatos to unlock his pet (but I would like to be sure if it's the correct one before upgrading it)
Thanks a lot!
dusty vault
for hypnos favor do i actually need to die to thesus and asterius
Hypnos favor requires talking to him and Thanathos until they mention that Hypnos is working better
misty flax
Hey everyone, even if I completed the game some times, I'm still completely noob...
You should start by giving everyone 1 nectar to unlock keepsakes, since that's pretty cheap. The best companion for speedrunning is probably meg's, because it does a lot of damage pretty quickly in a very big area. I think Sysiphus is also generally pretty good, because it does still a pretty good amount of damage while giving you free gold and healing.
Skelly if you often get overwhelmed by too many enemies attacking you
Thanatos does A LOT of damage and can even backstab, but it is slow
The other ones don't seem as good to me, but they also have their uses
I think Achilles is pretty good against Hades because it hits twice guaranteed against single enemies
Idk about Dusa, I haven't used it much, it seems fun but not very good
runic olive
can someone help me out #h1-tech-support
gentle juniper
got a quick question
if you dont have any crit effects
does splitting headache still apply?
cause it says bonus
dusty vault
does splitting headache still apply?
Splitting headache still works without crit sources
rotund fulcrum
I love using Artemis or Aphrodite Call
gentle juniper
artemis is just busted
deals so much damage
half of thesues's health
evaporated
no supporting boons either
rotund fulcrum
Yeh
hollow grove
Try Zeus and Dio calls, heaps of damage with them
final dune
middle managment is not worth it
it definitely is
||free 2 heat|| for most circumstances
worn escarp
Even td 2 is free
Ive never had a run longer than 28 minutes
Even td 3 ngl
My runs average around 19 minutes
They always have which is weird now that I think of it
i just found out recently that most peoples first clears and the average players clear is like 35 and 30 mins
Maybe thats why I took so long to get my first clear.
I was going fast but I was reckless
rotund fulcrum
I've never had a run under 30, but a lot of the time I stop at the end of a room to use the restroom, or something. So maybe I could if I tried.
stable sluice
You can pause the game when you do that from now on
So it doesn't count for your time
And see what your times look like
upbeat spoke
my first successful run was like 45 minutes
for similar reasons I think
now I've done 15
probably not going below
next latch
never back down never what?
rotund fulcrum
Are there good builds for the bow other than the special spam?
Do the other builds rely on being able to land the empowered attack?
next latch
Are there good builds for the bow other than the special spam?
... has that been your only way of dealing damage?
final dune
Are there good builds for the bow other than the special spam?
basically any other build
rotund fulcrum
No but see previous comment, I suck at landing charge attack
polar finch
dash strike
final dune
do you have autoaim on
rotund fulcrum
Maybe? Idk I haven't touched any settings
final dune
kbm or controller
final dune
just practice then
rotund fulcrum
Maybe I just need more practice with it
I was really excited to beat the game with Stygius but I got Demeter Athena duo for my cast and couldn't help but take it
final dune
stubborn roots?
polar finch
you mean demeter artemis duo?
rotund fulcrum
Made the Demeter beam OP
Oh yeah not Athena rip
I could've had 7 beams instead of 6 but I chose atk boost from one of my 3 chaos visits.
I'll keep dying practicing
bright lynx
does avoiding sisyphus and eurydice give me a bigger chance at finding patroclus
final dune
no
zinc creek
Hey everyone! Getting a bit frustrated around here, I'm currently at run 43 and got twice to the stone hydra boss, used to be able to best meg more or lese consistently but now I'm getting hosed by the other two furies. I usually choose a spear or shield build, focusing on Poseidon, with the aspect of zag and chaos, respectively. I mostly try to focus on Special damage at the beginning wherever I can. Any tips or builds to get better? I feel I'm getting less and less consistent
viscid notch
Hey everyone! Getting a bit frustrated around here, I'm currently at run 43 and ...
It's pretty normal so don't get discouraged. Remember that only empty dashes have iframes, meaning dashes without inputs in the middle. When the dash transforms into a dash strike it strips all your iframes and you're vulnerable again. Basically, if you want to dodge an attack, just simply dash. Do not try to dodge and deal damage at the same time.
In terms of builds, Poseidon is a pretty versatile god overall, assuming you're talking about his Dash, his Attack is the worst by far and his Special is very situational, same goes for the Cast, the Call is solid. Shields are safe but their dmg rotation can be a bit untuitive so although you're not taking as many hits early on, you can end up spending a lot of time in encounters due to lack of dmg which will eventually make you take hits. Zag shield does NOT rely on the Special to deal damage, and the same could be said for Chaos but you can make that one work with a lot of effort, the attack is the main source. Spears are easier to deal dmg with but they're not very safe and they're pretty hammer reliant. Starting with Poseidon on such weapons can incentivize an aggressive playstyle, so you can maybe start with something else like a flat dmg attack. Alternatively, you can experiment with the other aspects, I recommend trying Eris with a Zeus attack start, or Chiron with Dionysus Special start. I can elaborate more on the builds if you need me to.
zinc creek
It's pretty normal so don't get discouraged. Remember that only empty dashes hav...
I was going for the special with Poseidon, not the dash. And sure, recommendations would be great
viscid notch
Yea that can be a big reason why you're struggling. A good build goes a long way.
You can find a link in #h1-builds-and-combat pins to a guide that goes over a variety of builds for every weapon and even the basics of how to play it, it might have some spoilers tho.
zinc creek
I took the builds from some recommendations, the special attack with the shield with the pushback from Poseidon didn't look bad at all
viscid notch
It's basically a turtle strat
Throwing the Special doesnt take time and it does a bit of dmg. While you can just block when you're in a tight spot
But there are better builds
What aspect are you looking for specifically
zinc creek
Not looking for anything specific, the only ones I upgraded were aspect of Zagreus on spear and aspect of chaos on the shield, I'm open to anything
I'm usually more comfortable with ranged attacks
viscid notch
Do you have some extra titan blood to unlock Eris for example
or Hera
Since they're not level reliant like Chiron so you wont need to invest the full 15 or so Titan Blood to get them going
zinc creek
One Titan blood left
zinc creek
Since they're not level reliant like Chiron so you wont need to invest the full ...
What's your go to build though?
viscid notch
One Titan blood left
So since you have no extra Titan Blood you can use the base Rail for this. Start with Zeus keepsake and grab Zeus attack, pom it once or twice at max. Throughout Tartarus try to pick up a big% Special, ideally Artemis or Aphro/Athena with rarity. You'll also want Poseidon's dash for offense of Athena's dash for defense. You dont need all those pieces but they're good to look for, the main goal for the run is to just find as many Zeus boons as you can. If you see him try to get Static Discharge -> Storm Lightning -> Splitting Bolt. For the Call slot you're looking for Dionysus or Zeus (after static discharge) or even Athena. In Asphodel force Poseidon/Athena for their dash, if you have a dash by then you can force them again for supporting boons or force Artemis/Aphro for the Special. In Elysium and Styx just take Tooth or Acorn for the defense, Acorn is better for bosses but offers nothing in rooms, Tooth is a solid middle ground.
viscid notch
What's your go to build though?
It kinda depends on what im doing, I mostly speedrun so my builds are overly rng reliant and very optimized. My weapon of choice is a spoiler lol
The hidden aspect of the Shield
zinc creek
Thanks a ton, I'll try and see how that works out
viscid notch
Thanks a ton, I'll try and see how that works out
Oh I forgot to mention hammers. Your best hammer for safety is Delta Chamber because its bugged and actually makes your dash strikes not strip iframes anymore, so you can just hold the attack button from start to finish (not that you should). The Special on rail only shines with certain hammers, Rocket Bomb, Cluster Rockets and Hazard bomb are your best picks (in no particular order). The combo of Rocket + Cluster is insane if you get them together, but the odds arent amazing so its not consistent to rely on it.
gl, if you need suggestions for other weps Id be happy to help too.
zinc creek
What about the twin fists? Had alright results with them going for divine dash
viscid notch
Divine Dash is really good on them but you dont start with it generally. You always want to force the god that'll help you deal dmg in Tartarus.
Which would be Ares, Zeus or Dio.
viscid notch
Oh I forgot to mention hammers. Your best hammer for safety is Delta Chamber bec...
If you force Zeus then you continue with this exact gameplan
If you force Ares it's quite different and you'll be looking for his Duo boon with Arthena to really make the build shine, it can be quite inconsistent especially if your mirror is not maxed.
Dio is more of a fun option because it's not better than either of the other options. But it's independent since it only relies on poms for the most part. Of course you can make it scale further with boons like RD, or external sources like Calls/Casts but that can be said for every build.
leaden whale
i just suddenly lost a ton of progress for no reason, anyone know what happened?
final dune
tulip wagon
Hello, is Hades one of those games that is better going in blind or is there some beginner tips that I should know before starting? have been a fan of supergiant since bastion and have played all their games. since I enjoyed them so much I was saving hades for a rainy day, luckily that rainy day has yet to come but with hades 2 in the horizon though this was a good time as any to get started
tulip wagon
ok, thanks
bright lynx
after letting ||achilles go to elysium||, do i have to ||find him with patroclus for achilles ||to reappear in the house?
raw coral
Possibly? I think it makes sense for it to work as such
bright lynx
yeah i think so its been 4 runs since ||i freed him|| and i havent gotten the option to go to patroclus' room 😭
raw coral
It seems you have yourself a mission hehe
bright lynx
took me five runs to get him and it was at the second to last elyisum room
raw coral
But hey, you got it 🎉
minor valve
Hello, is Hades one of those games that is better going in blind or is there som...
Worth mentioning that dying is good. While progressing for the first time, you get more unique conversations if you die to various specific bosses, or simply in general, and fewer if you one-try everything
There's a reason why the supposed "god mode" doesn't prevent you from dying 😉
stiff patio
Worth mentioning that dying is good. While progressing for the first time, you g...
Yeah I got the cutscene that teaches me ||who my mother is|| after i already met her
Dialogue was out of sequence
minor valve
(Also repeating previously-killed bosses on the same Heat level is one of the fastest ways to get Darkness, which you also want. If you never die, you need dozens of "Heat progression/bounty" runs, as opposed to fewer "farm" runs, to fill out your Mirror.)
stiff patio
Is it possible to lock yourself out of fully upgrading things if you exchange too much at that one shop
minor valve
Technically no. All resources are infinitely farmable
I probably would recommend not converting resources in large amounts. The acquisition rates are balanced just right
The one resource which you get of more than you can spend is Diamonds
minor valve
Now that I think of it, you also get more Ambrosia than you can usefully spend
stiff patio
And now i know it is the one for upgrading aspects
So I'm a bit sad about that lok
Lol
minor valve
So yeah, converting Diamonds and Ambrosia (in reasonable amounts) is safer than other resources
stiff patio
Noted
minor valve
That is, assuming that you'll be grinding Heat progression / bounties
Occasionally trading Titan Blood for Darkness is fine if you're doing bounties, because bounties give you lots of Titan Blood but relatively little Darkness. Less fine if you're not doing bounties much in which case you get more Darkess and less Titan Blood
For perspective, and I forgot the exact numbers, but it probably took me somewhere around a hundred bounty clears to max all aspects (out of the total available 126 bounty clears), without trading other resources for Titan Blood (with the exception of occasional "deals of the day"). It's balanced roughly to require all bounty clears for the requisite amount of Titan Blood, but you can accelerate this by fishing on the surface and buying Titan Blood from Region 4 shop
On the bright side, many aspects are not all that great, or can be good without maxing them out
stiff patio
Tbh seems like I'll be content after just getting a shield aspect levelled
Shield rilly be carrying
Esp that upgrade that boosts ur rush + the upgrade that turns it into an arrow
leaden whale
I just beat the game in my 10th run W or nah
also is it possible to eventually win in every run
starting from a certain point
stiff patio
also is it possible to eventually win in every run
Super for sure
leaden whale
Use shield instawin
I used the gun with lots of Artemis boons
Then spammed the missile
Huge numbers
sullen ingot
Sorry guys I've some questions:
- I still have a lot of prophecies to complete. Expecially the ones with gods. I'm missing 1 boon each from 20 games at least. Am I doing something wrong? Some of them can be activated somehow?
- after a lot of games I just noticed that you can keep winning blood if you don't use "heat" challenge (I don't know the exact word, sorry). What's the purpose of increasing difficulty then? (except the pleasure of improving)
- I gave Nectar to almost everyone and a lot of Gods are "locked" for the next Nectar. How can I unlock them?
Thanks a lot!!!
dusty vault
Sorry guys I've some questions:
1) I still have a lot of prophecies to complete....
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do you have the codex upgrade that allows you to see the boon lists? As you guessed some boons have requisites before they show up.
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killing each boss for the first time with each weapon will give you one of the special resources (blood x2, diamond and ambrosia) but after that they will only drop darkness, using the heat system allows you to refresh those drops (so not sure on what you mean you keep winning blood).
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all characters have a favor that you need to do to remove the lock, some of them show up as prophecies and other not, but are mostly on theme of the god (aphrosite is getting into relationships for example) all favors are on the wiki if necessary
leaden whale
can divine dash trigger merciful end?
dusty vault
Yes
leaden whale
nice, should i replace my deflect attack for a doom attack than?
cedar holly
for merciful end you probably want doom attack, athena special (to unlock the duo boon) and then divine dash to use it better
sullen ingot
1) do you have the codex upgrade that allows you to see the boon lists? As you g...
- nvm sorry, I just noticed I skipped rank 0 with a lot of weapons. I started with rank 1 after I unlocked them.
strange moth
Should I be converting all my diamonds and ambrosia into titan blood? I really want stronger weapons but I’m not sure if it’s worth it
regal hawk
what are the best options for 8 heat?
craggy peak
EM2, MM, do EM3 if you’re confident, if not, then I would do PB1 and LC1 instead
regal hawk
ok
craggy peak
If you can go under 30 mins for a run replace PB with TD1
final dune
do u mean bp
craggy peak
TD1 gives you 36mins
craggy peak
do u mean bp
Ye
hollow gorge
Should I be converting all my diamonds and ambrosia into titan blood? I really w...
You can, it won't be a huge loss. Might just make completing all the relationships and house decorations slightly slower bit better aspects sooner is worth that imo
Eventually you'll have too much of everything
final dune
sword: nem
spear: achilles, hidden
shield: zag, zeus, hidden
bow: zag, hera, hidden
fists: dem
rail: eris, hestia
final dune
I thought Chiron was the best bow
where did u get this conception from
it’s one of the worst aspects in the game
if u like it go for it
but not worth getting attached to if you have no prior ties
sullen ingot
nice 😄 I think I searched "best aspects hades" and some websites listed it as one of the best
but I think those were old rankings based on old patches
final dune
yeah don’t trust most online sources regarding hades
final dune
but I think those were old rankings based on old patches
chiron has always been garbage
it has also always had people who think it’s not
sullen ingot
thanks a lot!
sullen ingot
a lot of lists says Chiron and Chaos aspects are the best, but I believe more people from this discord tbh 😄
final dune
they still got chaos on top too?
sullen ingot
about shield, I don't really like Zeus... probably because I'm playing it badly
I think it's "slow" compared to other weapons.
final dune
damn
that one actually was decent at a point in the past
people did blindfolded runs with it
misty flax
a lot of lists says Chiron and Chaos aspects are the best, but I believe more pe...
Chiron is really fun, so I recommend upgrading it just for that. Also it is definitely not garbage. It depends a lot on your playstyle. For some people, it's one of the best. Also Zeus shield is really fun, but you need to get used to the playstyle. If you get something like zeus or dionysus on the special and then explosive return, it clears rooms really fast.
I probably wouldn't worry too much about what is good, and just upgrade what you think is fun, because if you think it's fun, you will probably get better at using it than just a boring "good" aspect.
sullen ingot
I've some other noob questions sorry:
- I might doing something wrong. To unlock Ares last heart for example.
Ares: I'm sure I completed his Prophecy, but everytime I talk with him he doesn't unlock his last heart. - I can't complete Poseidon prophecy. I'm sure I killed Teseo with Extreme Remedy activated, but when I speak with him it doesn't complete the prophecy.
- I understood that when I have to pick a boon, if I'm missing it for a prophecy it has a sort of icon. But sometimes it appears "A prophecy has been revealed" with an exclamation mark --> does this means that I just discovered a new prophecy on my book somehow?
Thanks again
dusty vault
I've some other noob questions sorry:
1) I might doing something wrong. To unloc...
- due to how the dialogue system works, having the prophecy done doesn't guarantee Ares will talk about it, just keep trying really (rng)
- poseidon favor requires fishing a lot and having a fish on you before talking to him, check wiki for details
- yeah, new prophecy iirc
sullen ingot
1) due to how the dialogue system works, having the prophecy done doesn't guaran...
Thanks a lot!
About 2), I was talking about his Prophecy, not his favor.
dusty vault
Oop
dusty vault
Thanks a lot!
About 2), I was talking about his Prophecy, not his favor.
Refer to point 1 about ares then
sullen ingot
ok thanks a lot!
to refresh available dialogues can I clear the first room and then die?
dusty vault
Yeah that works
white otter
Hello guys I'm a new guy here and I'm probably playing hades around 60h but I'm pretty sure that i don't have a clue how to play the game properly lmao i was able to beat hades at 16 heat and now i would like for some help how can i beat 32 heat
viscid notch
Hello guys I'm a new guy here and I'm probably playing hades around 60h but I'm ...
#h1-high-heat-strategies check pins
white otter
Thanks
final dune
Chiron is really fun, so I recommend upgrading it just for that. Also it is defi...
it’s not gonna be one of the best for anyone. you can enjoy it and nobody will say “stop using it because i say you shouldn’t” but i don’t like recommending something with really poor damage like chiron because people can get turned off from heat or speed because of it, which happened to me for a while
minor valve
That's a decent way to put it. It's valid to label aspects as "great for heat or speed" vs "fun if you like it", as long as we don't claim that one or the other is "garbage" that one should never use 🙂
Fundamental knowledge of how to build and play lets you work with any aspect, after all
hollow gorge
Suboptimal is probably a better term to use than garbage. Maybe less fun to say though.
final dune
that’s my personal flair added on top for reference to chiron because i have the burning hatred of a thousand hells for the idea of using it myself
hollow gorge
Yeah, recommending what the community has found allows for the best time/heat while not making anyone feel bad about their favourites is a hard line to walk. Ease of use also seems to be a factor that I think probably should get a little more focus, in this channel especially. That one is even more subjective.
stable sluice
I mean most people are not speed running or playing high enough heat where choosing some aspect is going to be a significant issue for them
i've seen people post before that chiron got them their first clear at 32 heat. That's a very respectable achievement and more than most people will ever do
final dune
anything will work up to 40
but personally i’d probably have stopped playing the game if i had hit a hard wall at 50
stable sluice
for sure. so it's fairly pointless to call things garbage without a very specific context. I think it's fair to say that no aspect is "garbage" really.
final dune
i got lucky and did it first try but a large part of that was that i was using hestia
stable sluice
hestia strong
final dune
well first try after a bunch of rarity resets
id just like to minimise people quitting from getting pwned by some goal
if they keep going and then find out they actually like chiron they should go ahead
and then i’ll probably get called an idiot in some reddit thread
stable sluice
hah
sweet brook
and then i’ll probably get called an idiot in some reddit thread
as if you haven't already
final dune
have i lol
sweet brook
Idk probably
stable sluice
it's just better to do so with milder language, because if someine is asking about bow aspects and you say "chiron is garbage", and they're like "oh that's my favorite", then they feel kinda dumb for liking it, or defensive
If you say "chiron is okay and you can clear 32 heat with it, but there's a good chance it'll be easier with hera or rama once you learn them" they won't feel that way
basically there's just no downside to phrasing it that way IMHO
final dune
i think most things people say including me are inflammatory for effect and to impress the idea strongly upon others
stable sluice
yeah I get that people do that; that doesn't make it good
final dune
and also because there is a deep loathing in my soul for chiron
stable sluice
any more than tons of people liking chiron on reddit makes chiron good 😉
sweet brook
Thunder flourish Chiron good trust
final dune
i’m pretty sure the strat just became anything purple
stable sluice
I mean as funny as it is thunder flourish might still be one of the better options
even if you only proc two lightning bolts that's still pretty good
final dune
for heat the best option is none and just using twin shot
stable sluice
sure, but assume that you actually want to use the special
final dune
but for speed they start tdash and then take some special for furies and i’m pretty sure don’t use it after that
stable sluice
i was thinking maybe demeter, with the boon to trigger the frost explosion at 10 stacks
stable sluice
get the hammer so you fire 10+ arrows per burst
so now you get an instant frost explosion
still pretty crappy I guess since you can't pom it
iirc
final dune
yeah u can’t
final dune
all % is only good with conc volley
sweet brook
dio or aph
Arty for heart rend? Why aphro lmao
sweet brook
Oh for that
final dune
arty probably a lot better as u go lower
sweet brook
Yeah fair
stable sluice
what makes artemis better specifically at lower heat
final dune
u get more additive
stable sluice
okay, yeah I was thinking about that a bit
final dune
stable sluice
from where, like boiling blood and family favorite?
polar finch
taking chaoses doesnt have a 50% chance of automatically killing your run 
final dune
did the room reward guide get unpinned
faint umbra
strange dune
What do I need diamonds for?
Also how can I get more blood cause most runs don't give blood on first world
worn escarp
Also how can I get more blood cause most runs don't give blood on first world
Diamonds can be used to purchase things from the contractor
strange dune
Just for trades?
dusty vault
Also how can I get more blood cause most runs don't give blood on first world
beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood
final boss drops another + after that you unlock the best way to farm blood
other sources: trading for it at lounge (1 ambrosia for 1 T.blood is always there and sometimes 15 keys for 1 blood which is super good)
list of minor prophecies
Charon may sell one blood for 1200 gold at the last area shop
Diamonds are used for more special upgrades at the contractor basically yeah
strange dune
Is it set to just 100 cosmetics points or however it's called or it can be traded for blood?
dusty vault
Effects like meta rewards giving rolls, darkness giving health, etc
worn escarp
Is it set to just 100 cosmetics points or however it's called or it can be trade...
?
I dont understand
dusty vault
are you speaking of trading diamonds for gems?
worn escarp
I still dont understand your question
strange dune
Yes
dusty vault
don't do that
worn escarp
You cant anyways
strange dune
Ohhhh
worn escarp
Thats the broker
dusty vault
contractor is the shade near hades in the house
(tho for most diamond work orders you first need to pay for the deluxe table iirc)
dusty vault
I don't remember the real name
is an upgrade that allows for more upgrades to show up
strange dune
beating the first boss for the first time with a weapon will net you one blood
f...
So I need to beat, the game once for me. To farm blood
Great 😂
worn escarp
Yeah
dusty vault
if you want to farm quick yeah
worn escarp
Just use a build
Must people struggle early on because they dont actually make a build
They just go in
dusty vault
and for what is worth, while aspects are super helpful they aren't needed for your first escape at all
worn escarp
Can find a lot of good builds here. https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide
strange dune
I am, gathering the purple things and keys for now to help a bit
While upgrading the trinket
worn escarp
This tells you a lot about builds and stuff
worn escarp
I am, gathering the purple things and keys for now to help a bit
While upgrading...
What trinket
dusty vault
Can find a lot of good builds here. https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-bui...
(has spoilers for the hidden aspects btw)
dusty vault
and pretty sure it mentions some post credits things too
strange dune
Wait can you get back the blood given so fat, as a reset?
dusty vault
not normally
dusty vault
what you can do
upgrade/unlock whatever and go into a run
strange dune
What trinket
Any honestly to get them to 3 stars
dusty vault
what you can do
upgrade/unlock whatever and go into a run
if you don't like it pause and press give up
worn escarp
Any honestly to get them to 3 stars
You mean keepsakes
dusty vault
giving up reverts your save back to before you spent the blood
worn escarp
if you don't like it pause and press give up
True but you get the same seed
dusty vault
the point is that it saves titan blood
worn escarp
Yeah ig
dusty vault
who cares about the seed
worn escarp
Me
It was always me
It was Agatha all along
Dang
How do you do the crossy thing
strange dune
I am sorry that I am not as familiar as you with terms of game 😅
worn escarp
I am sorry that I am not as familiar as you with terms of game 😅
? Its cool man
strange dune
You mean keepsakes
Ig that's it
The ones in the white box
dusty vault
How do you do the crossy thing
put ~~ start and end of word
worn escarp
Ig that's it
The ones in the white box
Yeah
worn escarp
put ~~ start and end of word
~~ Thanks ~~
worn escarp
I am sorry that I am not as familiar as you with terms of game 😅
Dw if you got any questions feel free to ask
Im happy to help
latent grove
worn escarp
worn escarp
Im happy to help
Really. I wont be bothered at all
stable sluice
giving up reverts your save back to before you spent the blood
I've always known that but never thought to use it
really good tip
it kinda doesn't matter now, I have like 40-50 ambrosia and I'll probably spend most of that to finish maxing the aspects I actually like
strange dune
Ambrosia is the orange juice?
dusty vault
was gonna ask if the've beated the 3rd boss in 1st place
strange dune
The things you gift is nectar?
worn escarp
Yes
strange dune
Minotaur?
worn escarp
The one from the elysium bosses is ambrosia
dusty vault
did you defeat the dude + minotaur combo?
dusty vault
or have only found the minotaur alone
dusty vault
ah
strange dune
You Mean, there is more? 😅😅😅
worn escarp
Yes 😬
strange dune
Or is it a 2nd phase?
dusty vault
aight just so is full clear
meg/sisters: blood
hydra: diamond
minotaur + some dude (3rd boss): ambrosia
final boss: blood again
strange dune
Ig ambrosia is not meant to be for sell
dusty vault
replaces nectar once you reach a certain point with each character
dusty vault
when starting the game you barely have uses for it so trading ambrosia for blood is fine
strange dune
But specific characters unlock the big ocks
dusty vault
yup
strange dune
Got it
Well I am not as good as a player yet to reach those limits so
Run after run and mirror upgrade
Till I unlocks the good stuff
boreal stag
Is there a point in the game where you can give ambrosia to Olympian gods?
dusty vault
Is there a point in the game where you can give ambrosia to Olympian gods?
all characters have a favor that you need to do to remove the lock, some of them show up as prophecies and other not, but are mostly on theme of the god (aphrodite is getting into relationships for example) all favors are on the wiki if necessary
cedar holly
quite a few favours are hinted at in dialogue btw
sullen ingot
it's so difficult to unlock Demeter's legendary boon!
is there a trick/easier way or I just have to play infinite times?
final dune
are you fulfilling the prerequisites
sullen ingot
I'm trying to... it requires 2 boons which one of them requires another boon = so you have to find her at least 4 times and pray that each time she gives you the right boon
final dune
yea
rav will is t1
chaos favor, eury nectar, and yarn all boost legendary chance
if you don’t open up dem duos you have a higher chance of getting the lego
sullen ingot
I always try to skip other Gods, go for keys (so I can change rewards when my only option is a God)
final dune
because it rolls for duo/lego slot and then picks one to put in
final dune
I always try to skip other Gods, go for keys (so I can change rewards when my on...
oh that’s the issue
use persuasion
fauth sucks
sullen ingot
I don't remember what's persuasion
final dune
you have rolls that change boon screen boons rather than next chamber reward
significantly better
can also roll wells and sell wells
final dune
yea
sullen ingot
oh nice!
final dune
you’re using fated authority right
sullen ingot
I think so, yes
final dune
also if you don’t have a full pool it’s harder to get gods you want
so you want to get 4 gods asap
sullen ingot
I don't understand this ^
final dune
https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/ use this site to make sure you don’t fulfill the prerequisites for any extraneous duos
final dune
I don't understand this ^
so basically
the game wants to give you a 4 god pool
when you have 4 gods it won’t naturally give you any more
so if you have 3 gods there’s a 1/8 chance of getting a god you want
while with 4 there’s a 1/4 chance
so if you keep dodging other gods you won’t have a full pool
and getting more demeter will be more difficult
zinc creek
Any tips on piloting the rail with aspect of Eris (upgraded to +30%)? I'm on attempt 53 with most of the mirror unblocked and upgraded, choosing to main Zeus for attack and Artemis for special. Recently also turned god mode on as I haven't been able to get past the second boss.
stable sluice
hmm not sure what you mean by "choosing to main" exactly. But Eris with zeus on attack and Artemis on special is fine
I think it's pretty much the standard stuff, fire your bomb at an enemy, dash into it
shoot stuff without taking damage. don't hold fire when your ammo runs out but rather let it reload, or reload manually when it's convenient. Remap reload to a better key; and then if you want to dash anyway you can do reload-dash to cancel the reload delay completely
same with special, reload-special
zinc creek
sorry, meant choosing the Zeus Keepsake
stable sluice
cancels the reload delay
ah, okay
Yeah, I mean zeus on attack for eris is very good
zinc creek
and then changing to artemis after the first boss if I didn't get her already for special
stable sluice
Sure
zinc creek
yeah, I've also remapped the reload, saw that as a tip somewhere
problem is I tend to already lose my death defiance in the first level, so I can't use it later on
stable sluice
you should have more than one death defiance, for starters
you said your mirror was mostly upgraded
dusty vault
How is your mirror looking?
Also yeah saving at least for the 2nd defiance is great
stable sluice
death defiance is easily one of the most important mirror upgrades
I know it's expensive but not many upgrades compare
Also, losing your death defiance in the first level basically means, I think, that you're taking too much damage (sorry to be obvious)
dusty vault
Do you know how dashes iframes work? @zinc creek
stable sluice
Most of Tartarus, almost all the enemies/rooms, avoiding damage is basically pretty straightforward. There's a couple exceptions like the boss fight, some of the mini bosses it's not as trivially to take 0 damage, but generally almost everything in tartarus is relatively straightforward to avoid; you should mostly feel like you take damage when you make obvious mistakes
zinc creek
Do you know how dashes iframes work? <@765661583711273042>
not taking damage during the dash? I'm aware of the mechanic
zinc creek
Also, losing your death defiance in the first level basically means, I think, th...
I'm sure I am 🙂
stable sluice
I think the bottom line is that as you keep improving, you'll just take less damage in earlier stages of the game, and that just continues to improve
and you'll get farther and farther
dusty vault
not taking damage during the dash? I'm aware of the mechanic
And about dash striking removing the iframes?
zinc creek
How is your mirror looking?
Also yeah saving at least for the 2nd defiance is gr...
anything special I should look out for? can't post my mirror picture here in the chat
zinc creek
And about dash striking removing the iframes?
I don't tend to dash strike much using this specific build
stable sluice
Get 3 death defiances is one big one. Another big one is boiling blood
dusty vault
You should
stable sluice
make sure you stick to a lodging cast and have boiling blood maxed
dusty vault
anything special I should look out for? can't post my mirror picture here in the...
Check pins for mirror guide
stable sluice
that's a 50% damage boost vs bosses
thick skin is very good, starting off with money is very good.
dusty vault
But assuming you don't have much of the mirror, 2nd defiance and 2nd dash are huge
zinc creek
got boiling blood at 30%
stable sluice
oh yeah, the extra dashes
dusty vault
Also you can post imgs in other server and copy img link
zinc creek
Extra dashes are maxed out
stable sluice
Yeah I mean boiling blood doesn't cost that much per level, so you just want to keep focusing on maxing out some of those critical, cheaper upgrades, then save for death defiances, don't worry too much about the fact that you haven't gotten past the second boss
dusty vault
There is embed perms
stable sluice
basically the nice thing about the hades early game is that you'll be improving both from your mirror, and your skill, at the same time
Before you know it you'll have 3 death defiances and most likely you'll be finishing the second boss with all 3 of them, consistently
dusty vault
Oh yeah @zinc creek regarding your build
I recommend forcing poseidon on aspho for his dash
That way you have a valuable pom choice
It's dmg is huge
Also look for static discharge from zeus and pom it as well
zinc creek
dusty vault
If you want extra safety, when picking up hammers look for delta chamber, it makes it so dash strikes keep your iframes
Oh you reached dark foresight already nice
zinc creek
Gotta make the grind worth it at 53 runs 🙂
stable sluice
that's avery interesting mirror
fwiw I would respec probably and prioritize things differently
I'd probably swap privileged status for family favorite. Family favorite works on all builds, from your first hit, etc
and it's not that much lower of a percentage than privileged
death defiance is higher priority than dark foresight
boiling blood to max is pretty high priority (especially considering how little it costs)
Like dark foresigh of course is good, but in the grand scheme of things even if it were max we're talking about like 1-2 more good rooms for a full run.
It seems to me this is much less impactful than a whole extra life.
dusty vault
Like dark foresigh of course is good, but in the grand scheme of things even if ...
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It swaps the ratio of 50:50 to 70:30 towards gold laurel
Def more than 1 or 2