#h1-for-new-players

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final dune
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what build r u doing

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what weps do u have unlocked

astral basin
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I only have spear

final dune
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oh

astral basin
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idk how to unlock the ones past the 4 that are there

final dune
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unlock the ones there

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then you get more

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but

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if ur that early

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just play more

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no advice is better than experience at that point

astral basin
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I unlocked them all other than shield cuz I think it's boring. is that why theres no other weapons...

final dune
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how do you know if it's boring if u dont even have it lol

astral basin
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tried it out on skelly

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then forgot to save

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so it ended up reseting

final dune
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well

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it's worth unlocking anyways to get the next two weapons

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well

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the last weapon

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fifth weapon kinda stinks 🗿

astral basin
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that explain's a lot, thank you so much

copper estuary
astral basin
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should I trade off my titan blood to trader?

final dune
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save for now

astral basin
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ok good to know

final dune
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check pins for guide to spend once you figure out how

lapis harbor
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should is save my darkness for another death defiance?

sweet brook
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probably

final dune
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make sure u have greater reflex too

stoic raven
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why is my computer able to run hades
the min req on steam is 2.4ghz, 3ghz recommended but my processor is 2.3ghz

anyways, enjoying the game so far, sadly i still remember the ending from about 2 years ago
||why is this channel dead||

sweet brook
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Should be fine probably

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I'm not a big tech guy so I have no idea but it'll probably work

stoic raven
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and even better, its actually managing to run properly, my computer's only been reset once

viscid notch
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I think recommended isn't like the bare minimum

stoic raven
viscid notch
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Close enough

raven marsh
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not necessarily a new player but why does my god gauge sometimes have 5 charges and sometimes have 4? does it depend on whose call i have?

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ahh okay thank u

arctic jacinth
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Hello everyone!
Only a potential new player here, I'm intrigued by what I've seen so far from the trailers.
Is it actually good though?

sweet brook
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very much so

final dune
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well i mean

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youre in the server of people who love the game

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but yeah

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top 2 game of all time

sweet brook
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i was gonna point that out yeah lmao

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actualy on the other hand there's a few games where if you ask people if they should get the game they'll whole heartedly say "no" so honestly fair

arctic jacinth
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What can I say?
Force of habit.
Reading reviews is one thing, but asking the actual community is different, even if it's existence means they love it.

final dune
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but like

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it’s definitely the most polished game i’ve ever played

arctic jacinth
sweet brook
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yeah i think it'll be difficult to find anyone in this server who would say "don't get this game" lmao

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good thing i got it for free

final dune
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my mom is

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she plays like 5 hours a day and is in one of the top teams as a high level administrator or something

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her rn

sweet brook
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your mom is so incredibly based

final dune
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she hired someone to make a bot for her team for contested territory

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no way is rt bloonpilled

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lmfao

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i bloonpilled my mom years ago

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with td5

zinc epoch
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I got ||assist from Meg, Thanatos, Skelly and Achillies||. Who esle am I missing and how do I get them?

zinc epoch
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How do you unlock more Dusa story?
I think she's still having lock on her heart chain

final dune
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in the lounge

zinc epoch
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I ||freed Sisyphus|| so I should probably get his next time I find him

final dune
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Hades Wiki

'"UNIQ--infobox-1-QINU"'
Dusa is a shade in the form of a floating, disembodied Gorgon's head. She works as a maid in the House of Hades under Nyx, constantly floating around and cleaning, and...

zinc epoch
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I was hoping Artemis actually, cause I once saw a screenshot with something green and forest-ish that i feel she would have
Plus she's best girl, with Dusa right behind

final dune
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Heretic

final dune
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Lady Aphrodite will have your head

zinc epoch
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If they add Hestia in the next game they better make her the Bestia

final dune
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she’s on whats it calles

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hidden agenda

silk tiger
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the fact that I know who that is

final dune
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the team or what player my mom is

silk tiger
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The team

final dune
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oh

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yeah she’s pretty high up in it

silk tiger
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I played the first event and got bored

lapis harbor
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how do i get better at using mouse and keyboard? I feel really comfortable with the controls on a controller, but on a keyboard, my movement feels really weird and hard to control

zinc epoch
zinc epoch
sweet brook
stoic raven
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i love playing hades tower defense(ranged weapon spam)

craggy peak
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I don’t do well with ranged stuff like the bow

viscid notch
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Bow is one of the trickier ones as a starter weapon

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It’s not that intuitive

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But the trick is just to dash strike

covert nest
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is it worth it selling boons in the pool of purging?

vapid canopy
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heavily depends on the boon

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the biome

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the build

covert nest
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i dont know what ambrosia does, is selling it for 500 darkness worth it

dusty vault
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so early game not many uses

covert nest
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i see

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ay max privilage status

leaden whale
unreal scroll
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Returning Member from 2011 - is this the room get tips. I am now playing my cross-server account on the switch.

final dune
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yea

unreal scroll
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I started in 2021

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Then thing fell off because I got busy

quasi notch
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i got it like three days ago

sweet brook
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i'd say stick around here until you reach the credits, then it'd probably be better to ask outside to avoid spoilers

final dune
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i got the game on december 25 last year

sweet brook
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i still need to figure out when i started playing this game

unreal scroll
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I’ve never beaten it

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I got all way to the gates and dead

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Those door too me through a loop

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The Colosseum was fun though

quasi notch
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ive only gotten to asphodel once

sweet brook
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that was the day i cleared tartarus and iirc i cleared it within a day

unreal scroll
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I just see I have a lot keep sakes

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Is the pierced butterfly the best to equip?

quasi notch
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im baby i dont know what that is

sweet brook
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probably one of the worst lol

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or at least less helpful ones

unreal scroll
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Ooooooppp

sweet brook
quasi notch
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coolio

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havnt met yet

unreal scroll
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He is your bestie I think

final dune
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it's like better than distant memory and co but not by much

sweet brook
# unreal scroll Ooooooppp

it's not good because you dont get control over your build, and if you want to take if when you have your build, it'll be too late to be useful

quasi notch
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i love him so i already know ill love him in game too

unreal scroll
final dune
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god keepsakes

unreal scroll
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I don’t have that one

sweet brook
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just make sure to give your nectar to the gods then

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zeus, ares, etc

quasi notch
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you mean an olympian

final dune
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the olympians r still gods

quasi notch
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yeah but thanatos is a god

final dune
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but yeah god keepsake refers to one of the 8 keepsakes from aph arty ares athena pos zeus dio ||dem||

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@unreal scroll it depends which

quasi notch
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oh ok

final dune
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oh my god dyno

quasi notch
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lol

final dune
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i will cut you in twain and scatter your ashes in a volcano

final dune
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but essentially

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you use one of those

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and take one of their boons first

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here is a guide on how to make some decent builds

sweet brook
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there's spoilers in there

final dune
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they got to ||dad||

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already

unreal scroll
sweet brook
final dune
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oh right

quasi notch
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im using lucky tooth

covert nest
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wish tooth was used first instead of death defiances

unreal scroll
final dune
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the guy who made the website

covert nest
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I hate the butterflies

covert nest
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As far as I can tell to use the fists you just spam dash and attack

sweet brook
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pretty much

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there's more specific techs for speedrunning but that's really all you need at a base level

covert nest
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cool

uneven seal
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NAH WHAT THE HELL WHY DOES THESEUS HAVE A GUN

final dune
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that's your fault

covert nest
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I mean you can use a gun as well so basically its a draw

quasi notch
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you can use a gun-

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o.o

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wait no seriously- can you

final dune
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you'll see

quasi notch
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2hat weapon do most people prefer

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ivebeen wanting to asl

final dune
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well

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it depends on what community you ask

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but also there is eventually something which makes asking the question of what weapon a lot more complicated

covert nest
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I tend to get the furthest with bow butnthats may be just me

quasi notch
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i think i least like the bow

final dune
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you just have to learn to dash strike power shot

quasi notch
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i like the spear thingy

final dune
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at this point in ur progression bow is probably the best thing u have access to

covert nest
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I guess we are opposites cus i hate the spear

final dune
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i should make a video with all the damage rotations

quasi notch
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i have sword spear bow and shield

sweet brook
final dune
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wtf is base spear rotation

quasi notch
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...sorry what are rotations

final dune
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just dash strikes?

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idek

sweet brook
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2x dash attacks probably

final dune
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yeah

uneven seal
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damn this game is so well made

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they're so much content to be found wow

sweet brook
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And it's looped

covert nest
final dune
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the buttons u press

quasi notch
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im just a baby i got this game two days ago i know nothing

sweet brook
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Which is why it's called a rotation

quasi notch
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okk

sweet brook
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DW about it lol just keep asking questions

final dune
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damn i have aspect bonuses

sweet brook
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Make a new save and use shop mod

final dune
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only really matters for bow and rail though

covert nest
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How far were you guys into the game by the time you beat it for the first time

quasi notch
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...

final dune
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wtf is my fourth save

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when did i use this what

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apparently it took me like 360 tries to get the 652

final dune
sweet brook
final dune
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doesnt give

sweet brook
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It does

final dune
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broker doesnt offer it

sweet brook
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It's special offer so die in a run

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Should be

final dune
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ok

sweet brook
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I was able to max mirror

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I think the special offer rotates between gems and darkness

final dune
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sometimes its blood for darkness isnt it

sweet brook
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Idk but shop mod gives you infinite resources basically

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Well it's not called shop mod

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Generous broker

final dune
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yeah thats what i have

sweet brook
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Well you should get darkness lmao

final dune
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im playing out the ff run and i keep thinking enemies will spawn way faster than they do lol

sweet brook
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Lmao amazing

final dune
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i think thats my pb slowest meg fight

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wait when do you get the broker

hollow gorge
covert nest
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im at 42 and got to Final boss once

sweet brook
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opening up the lounge should open up broker by default

final dune
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when can u buy access

hollow gorge
covert nest
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Got to second phase

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gave had skele keepsake left

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then died like 10 bow shots away from victory

sweet brook
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or 2nd or something idk

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but very very early

final dune
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🗿

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do i need gemstones

sweet brook
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idk

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probably

zinc epoch
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Which buff makes enemies take damage when bloodstones are dropped from them

upbeat spoke
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exit wounds boon from Artemis

upbeat spoke
zinc epoch
upbeat spoke
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Hermes legendary

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Greater recall it is called I think

dusty vault
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Yup

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Can only get it when ysing infernal soul mirror talent as an aside

zinc epoch
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You mean Nyx's mirror?

dusty vault
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Ye

zinc epoch
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Is it green or purple?

dusty vault
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Purple

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Infernal is the +2 casts

zinc epoch
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Is there any item to guarantee the hammer?

sweet brook
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Nope

unreal scroll
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Trying to relearn this game is something else…especially when you didn’t have a clear understanding from the beginning 😅

stoic raven
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which contractor's desk deluxe upgrade should i go for first

grave hill
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unless ur very early in ur runs
. i think u dont get hammers at all for a while or when u do its only one at first.. something like that

sweet brook
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You get your first hammer on run 3

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Once that happens it follows normal hammer rules

final dune
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first hammer is so garbo lol

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it's like flurry world splitter and hoarding slash

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unless its random

lapis harbor
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should i the +2 cast or the regernating one

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for mirror

final dune
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depends

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most purposes just use infernal

final dune
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spoiler

arctic jacinth
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Hello again!
Is this the channel without spoilers?
I guess I'll be staying for a while.

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Got the game and it's awesome so far!

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What should I tag as spoilers here?
Just in case.

viscid notch
arctic jacinth
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Alright.
So, question right off the bat: can you not change weapon in mid run?

viscid notch
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No

arctic jacinth
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Ah, okay.
I got far with that bow, for a second run anyway.

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I got this weird blood with spikes over it after beating Tartarus boss.
Who can I give it to?

long helm
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@arctic jacinth That will be for weapon upgrades, sorry if this is a spoiler in this channel

arctic jacinth
arctic jacinth
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How does earning of Titan Blood work?
I got four pieces from beating Tartarus with four different weapons and then traded one to Wretched Broker for 200 Gemstones.
Next run, I beat Tartarus and for some reason didn't get the blood.
Is it now permanently lost and I will get locked out of some upgrades or did I get the system wrong?

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Also, can you please give some tips on Hydra? Boss is cool and all, but it keeps beating me into oblivion.

final dune
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hydra is kind of just getting better damage

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and getting the hell away when it does one of its tells

covert nest
upbeat spoke
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there isn't anything you can permanently screw up

arctic jacinth
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Thank the Greek Gods.

arctic jacinth
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Do bosses get stronger the more you defeat them?
Megaura the Fury used to only do her bullet spam attack at last phase, but now she does it much earlier.

sweet brook
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no they stay the same strength

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there's new variants but that's about it

covert nest
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Which attack she gains is random when she reaches 75% health

arctic jacinth
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I see.

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I just beat Hydra!
Had two Death Defiances used, but it was worth it.
Damn epic!

final dune
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nice

arctic jacinth
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Yeah.
I got through most of Elysium, but the boss trampled me.

long helm
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That's normal, keep trying 🦾

bright timber
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idk what keepsake i should use for Tarturus

hollow gorge
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I think using a god keepsake to get the first god you want is pretty common

craggy peak
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Also Sisyphus keepsake is a good one to start too if you’re not looking for a specific build

upbeat spoke
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or purse

tidal vine
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Using the bow with the dyonisus blessing is fun as hell

final dune
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on what

bright timber
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do you unlock the dimond trade after the secound boss?

leaden whale
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Yeah.

bright timber
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when can you but titans blood?

upbeat spoke
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after third boss I think

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you can also get it with the rotation option but only one at a time and only sometimes

bright timber
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which acspect shouldi get, i only have 1

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titan blood

bright timber
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with which item

prisma mica
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what happen when i max up my friendship with a character

bright timber
dusty vault
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And story spoilers ||some of the relationships needs to be maxed for the game's epilogue||

prisma mica
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so between them

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does charon count ?

dusty vault
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Nope

prisma mica
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sad

fiery kraken
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Hi, just started playing is there a prefer God to give gifts too?

bright timber
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give atleast one to each character you can, you will get a keepsake that helps you on your way, after that is for more story

fiery kraken
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thanks

compact acorn
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How many times can I die before I stop getting unique interactions?

final dune
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a very large number of times

bright timber
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too much times

summer rampart
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So many

proud bobcat
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How do you unlock the final weapon?

final dune
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get keys

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buy it

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same as all the others

proud bobcat
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what makes it appear

final dune
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idk do a run

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after unlocking fists

upbeat spoke
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all other weapons need to be unlocked

proud bobcat
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it has appeared now, i just need two more keys

final dune
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tip for it

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start zeus keepsake and take his attack

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boom

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win

livid jackal
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It is quite literally a gun

bright timber
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i got 4 death defiences lmao

fiery kraken
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Is God Mode use by a lot of ppl or is frawn upon? Also, can you get achievements if God Mode is on?

bright frost
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if you see anyone frawin upon god mod users, pls send me... I will have a talk with them

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I personally have never seen someone doing that
half of my friends use god mode 🤙

fiery kraken
bright timber
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I hate people hating on other people because they use a easy mode

fiery kraken
bright timber
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I don't remember

bright frost
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As you die, you get dmg resistance

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Is not a "easy mode" cuz you still need do deal the dmg

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It gets easier the more you die, but just for the resistence

still stirrup
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yeah every time u die you gain 2% damage resistance

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it goes up to 80%

fiery kraken
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ah so is not your traditional ez mode. Thanks for the explanation.

bright frost
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It is a good tool for ppl that are new to this kinda game and/or are playing mostly for the story

still stirrup
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ong it saved my life

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i wouldve never gotten through my first time (or second time for that matter) if not for it

fiery kraken
bright frost
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My best friend never had the chance to play this kind of games, and their laptop didn't run the game that well when they started.
If it wasn't for god mode, I won't be able to share my favorite game with my best friend!

still stirrup
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dude was overpowering fr, and then i beat him and got through elysium and i was like okay they want me to fight this mf AND a ripped blond himbo???

still stirrup
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for people who prefer just the story, but to be able to turn it off for others who focus on their skill and technique as well

bright frost
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That's why I love supergiant system of "ok, done with the begginin of the game, here are tools for you to make the game harder if you want;"

fiery kraken
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Like that its not your traditional ez mode, you still got to work for it. But once you die a lot upto 80% dmg res, guess it becomes very ez.

still stirrup
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ong especially if you level up your weapon of choice

bright frost
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It will be very ez, but I think at that point, half of the reason is you getting beter at the game
If it is a challange for you, is a challange to overcome

still stirrup
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ohh whats everyones favorite weapons

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mines the fists 100%

bright timber
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I love the bow aspect of hera

bright frost
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I actually dont have a fav 😅
I have a less favorite at the moment, but I have fun with all

bright timber
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I also like the fists

bright frost
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But after hades 2, for some reason I am inclined to say that nemesis is my fav

fiery kraken
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shield for me so far

bright timber
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I like nemesis styg blade

fiery kraken
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sword leaast fav for me

still stirrup
fiery kraken
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yeah just unlock the Zeus shield and liking it

bright timber
bright frost
# still stirrup whats ur _least_ fave?

Gun
Right now, for me it just feels a bit clinky to use it.
I know it can be really strong, but just not workin for me right now. This will prob pass when I start to improve with them. Just like it happen with bow and spear 😅

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Shield bouncing is hella fun

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That's why zag shield is my fav from them

bright timber
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I love acheiless spear

bright frost
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THE best spear

still stirrup
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the spin attack gives me so much serotonin

bright frost
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I tried to do that and I hated.
It was back when spear was my least favorite weapon tho

summer rampart
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I'm a shield enjoyer too

ivory oasis
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Hiyaa

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I just bought hades

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Icl I am new to the roguelike genre

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Im 1 hour into the game

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And so far I love the art and all

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Phenomenal

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The voice acting too omg

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But like

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I cant help but feel its repetitive but I heard thats the point of the gente

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Genre*

final dune
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yeah you're supposed to do a bunch of runs

ivory oasis
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Ah

final dune
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hades is a roguelite which means among other things it has meta progression

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so for a long time the gameplay elements will continue to change

ivory oasis
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I dont wanna refund this game I think it deserves a chance but the repetitiveness is getting to me zagsad

dull terrace
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Try do something diffirent each run

final dune
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i mean

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if you're only an hour in

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you haven't seen much of the change

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how many weapons do you have

ivory oasis
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So far Ive unlocked 3

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Or 2 was it

dull terrace
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So bow and spear?

final dune
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no

sweet brook
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Try different weapons and builds lol

final dune
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would be shield and spear

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bow is 4th

ivory oasis
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Bow and shield

final dune
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oh

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oh right you start with 4 open

ivory oasis
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I think I did smth wrong lol

dull terrace
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Are you struggling at a boss or something rn?

ivory oasis
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Nope I just keep dying to regular enemies

dull terrace
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Athena is a good god for 1st boss

sweet brook
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What's your mirror looking like

ivory oasis
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Tbf Im only an hour into the game

final dune
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most important is ssecond dash

sweet brook
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Death defiance and greater reflex should be priority atm

final dune
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greater reflex

ivory oasis
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I just get dizzy easily after playing anything

final dune
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then death defiance

sweet brook
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But that's fair enough

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It's only been an hour lmao

ivory oasis
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Yeah the game does get good doesnt it :]

dull terrace
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Dopamine yes ( with good builds

ivory oasis
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Im new to roguelikes so its a first for me

dull terrace
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Story progresses each run no matter ( you still need to flee further up )

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Also try each weapon and find which fits you the best

woven canopy
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yeah the game is definitely repetitive in terms of just doing runs every time but there's always different combos and i feel like the progression is also there. like i used to suck at the game and then i just kept playing and got better lmao

ivory oasis
dull terrace
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So sword

ivory oasis
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Im just not great at shield and bow

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Yahh

woven canopy
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and there's always something to do in the game with plot so it's nice

woven canopy
dull terrace
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If you want to stay alive longer , try athena

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Aphrodite has like the highest dmg modifier

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Dont forget your cast

ivory oasis
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I heard theres also god mode and I looked it up and it basically makes thegame easier

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Hmm

woven canopy
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i think it's def worth it to just play without lmao

dull terrace
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It gets higher each loss

woven canopy
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i went like 30 runs using keyboard and mouse and never completed elysium and then i got a controller and it was so life changing lmao. i have so much respect for keyboard and mouse users 😭

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but yeah i never used god mode despite the 30 losses lol

sweet brook
dull terrace
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Still hard at it due to brimstones the crystals and other enemies that are like same as brim

sweet brook
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you still have to learn the game but it's just a lot more lenient

dull terrace
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Also boon info also shows which chamber you are in

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14 is boss room

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Of tartarus

ivory oasis
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I wonder how hard it would be LOL

sweet brook
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12, 22, and 34 are the last combat rooms of each biome

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next afterwards is guaranteed free room and then boss

dull terrace
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One of the free rooms can be Charon

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Aka the bag with a golden skull if you didnt went to one

ivory oasis
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Ooo yeah

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Been there

dull terrace
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Boons are 150

woven canopy
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honestly might be fun to try going back but we'll see 😭

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also where do i start with educating myself about builds?? like i kind of just read the descriptions of each boon and just do a ton of combinations

dull terrace
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Combat strat

ivory oasis
#

I cant wait to get to the fun(ner) parts of the game rn Im just flabbergasted

dull terrace
#

Builds and combat i mean

woven canopy
#

oh is there like a place to start? i feel like i get overwhelmed reading everyone's comments lol

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but it was also modded

dull terrace
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You can get only 1 hammer rn due to 2nd being in the 3rd part and highest of the underworld

ivory oasis
#

This game got mods??

woven canopy
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apparently

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i only found out yesterday LOL

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OH SORRY

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okay yeah i dont remember how to use the spoiler feature so imma just delete my message lol

dull terrace
#

Same but mobile

cedar holly
#

whoops wrong reply

woven canopy
#

but yeah like there's like good combos with certain gods and certain weapons so i might just do a bit of research and get familiar

dull terrace
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There is a vid about guy explaining broken builds in insults

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Still nice

summer rampart
#

Ah yes Wimbdy lol

bright timber
#

i have so much dashes

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i think 6 rn

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5 actually

elder gulch
#

I died to Hades noooooooooooooo

final dune
#

unless the gimmick of the video is that it lies to you and then says it was a joke or something

lime spoke
# final dune Looked ar it and it features chiron so i would immediately trust it 0%

|| he showed a build for nem which is aphrodite attack ares special artemis cast and optimally also athena dash and 3 other builds: chiron like you said and also aspect of zeus and both to have the same build aka aphrodite attack dionysus spec artemis cast and revenge from ares and a gilgamesh build which is to have me mainly aka doom attack and dash and spec athena probably || sorry for making this so long

final dune
#

ares special 🗿

lime spoke
#

tho tbh he does exxagerate the builds bc chiron isnt that great even with dyionisus you need good rarity and lvl

lime spoke
final dune
#

no

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why would it

lime spoke
#

or should it be on attack if its not with ME and on spec if its with ME?

final dune
#

no

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you should never have doom special with ME unless you're on zeus shield

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and you shouldn't use doom without ME

lime spoke
lime spoke
#

wait okay so

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doom on attack is only good if you do ME

final dune
#

yes

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doom period is only good with ME

lime spoke
#

and you should have doom on attack and rather have athena on special not the other way around

final dune
#

yes

lime spoke
#

okay

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I should go sleep its 1 am bye

final dune
#

gn

fleet topaz
#

Hey, new here, what can I do with titan blood

viscid notch
fleet topaz
fiery kraken
#

so certain Gods only appear when you wield certain weapons. Because I been trying to give Aprodites a nectar but she has not appear for a very long time. Wonder if she appears only when using range weapons? thanks

fleet topaz
sweet brook
#

Once you get boons from 4 unique gods (doesn't include Hermes and chaos) then you can't see any different gods unless you force them into your god pool

fiery kraken
#

ok

viscid notch
fleet topaz
viscid notch
#

The gun

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Just keep buying the weapons in the courtyard for keys

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It’s obvious when it unlocks so you wont miss it

gilded lance
#

sometimes there's some weirdness with the shop and it'll be 5 plus Hermes

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just had that happen the other day

fiery kraken
#

Do I have to unlock all the weapon in one type to get the last one? Like unlock all three rails to get the last rail gun etc..?

summer rampart
#

No, just the weapon

gilded lance
#

you have to put at least 5 blood into upgrades for whatever weapon you're trying to unlock the hidden aspect of

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also you have to get the hidden spear aspect before you'll get any of the other waking phrases

summer rampart
#

Like you have to actually unlock it or just be able to see the option

dusty vault
fiery kraken
gilded lance
#

yeah you have to get the spear waking phrase from Achilles and use it

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yeah

fiery kraken
#

maybe I need to give him a nectar or something

dusty vault
#

hidden spear method is different

sweet brook
#

nah you need to have the prereqs lmao

gilded lance
#
Hades Wiki

Weapons are your main mode of attack. Initially, only the Stygian Blade is available, but additional weapons can be unlocked by spending Chthonic Keys in the Arsenal Room. Unlocking all the weapons requires a total of 24 Chthonic Keys. They can be upgraded during a run with a Daedalus Hammer.
Each weapon has a number of "Aspects" that can be unl...

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scroll down and it has details on the hidden aspects and the exact reqs

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minor spoilers obviously

fiery kraken
#

So I beat the last boss, do that mean I beat the game or does beating the game multiple times is when it is final. As the last final cutscene left in a cliff hanger. New to roguelites games so just trying to figure things out. thanks.

gilded lance
#

10 times

summer rampart
#

About to fight ||Hades|| for the third time

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Maybe I'll finally beat him

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More likely I'll die lol

gilded lance
#

||hades|| isn't even as hard a fight as ||charon|| is for me sometimes. have you had a chance to fight ||charon|| yet?

dusty vault
#

both of those things have to be spoiler marked btw

gilded lance
#

you should get the chance since clearing the first time

fiery kraken
summer rampart
#

Let's go!

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I needed all three death defiances lol

#

Good thing I saved them

dusty vault
#

gg

dusty vault
fiery kraken
#

This game is so good. Is Hades 2 releasing full release or early access?

dusty vault
#

we are getting early access news this year

gilded lance
#

...we hope

fiery kraken
#

ahh wanted a full release. I will wait for full release dont like to play unfinished games

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will buy it early but not play it

#

I bought Balder Gates 3 early release but havent played yet will play it when it releases this month

gilded lance
#

I didn't care about or buy hades until early 2021, I'm a bit torn between getting to be along for the EA ride or getting the full polished experience going in like with the first gane

fiery kraken
#

I like to support the game,but wait for full release.

gilded lance
#

I got transistor in 2020 which is just a beautiful game and that was my intro to sgg

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then hades came out at a decent price and became my favorite game ever

fiery kraken
fiery kraken
gilded lance
#

totally different game in both tone and gameplay, you plan what moves you're going to do in advance and execute the command

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but it's gooood

dusty vault
dusty vault
bright frost
fiery kraken
sullen mortar
#

hey can someone help me with getting the hidden aspect for the fist cause i have everything completed and met asterius multiple times but it wont give me the dialogue to get the hidden aspect

viscid notch
fiery kraken
#

Any benefit of catching fish? just got the rod

upbeat spoke
#

you get extra resources for them

glass mango
#

It can be a nice change of pace

fiery kraken
#

I did not spend 5 bloods to get the aspect of Guan Yu like guides I saw say I had too? Did they change it now ?

#

or is it 5 bloods in any weapon accumulative?.

hollow gorge
#

The wiki has the costs

dusty vault
fiery kraken
#

youtube videos

dusty vault
#

Yt moment

past merlin
summer rampart
#

Does the cruel thrust Daedalus upgrade for the sword affect the dash strike or just the final attack of the combo?

sweet brook
#

just the final attack on the combo

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even tho a dash strike is functionally a thrust, it doesn't count towards cruel thrust

final dune
#

which makes cruel thrust in the middle tier of sword hammers because even though it does nothing for you it isn't literally actively negative like 4 others

summer rampart
#

Damn that sucks I only picked it cause I thought it'd help my dash strike lol

sweet brook
#

i think only double edge, breaching slash, and piercing wave affect dash strikes

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double edge is in the description at least lmao

final dune
#

hoarding

sweet brook
#

oh yeah i forgot that existed

leaden whale
#

Hey all. I know I’m late to the party but just picked up Hades from the Steam summer sale. I don’t know much about the game other than it’s universally praised, so I’m in the dark about story and general strats. Having a good time but getting my butt kicked 😂

hollow gorge
#

Sounds ideal. Enjoy!

restive portal
keen leaf
gilded lance
#

you'll probably die at least the first 20 times

#

but yeah it's very addictive, I have 700 hours on switch and 100 on pc

hollow gorge
#

Or first 100 times

gilded lance
#

the first clear is worth it though, I cried

hollow gorge
#

It's a good feeling

leaden whale
#

On my 11th run, I finally got out of the first area, then died to some lava skeletons

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I’m doing the best with bow. Take too much damage with the close combat weapons

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Two runs died to trial of the gods rooms, lol

lapis harbor
#

should i just use my most comfortable weapon or use the 20% darkness one?

craggy peak
#

Depends on where you’re at, but do what you’re most comfortable with

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I think the 20% boost might help if you use dark regeneration though

desert hazel
#

should i get the spear or unlock the second row of talents with my keys

hollow gorge
hollow gorge
desert hazel
hollow gorge
#

Probably the bow, but it varies day to day. You're definitely going to want to try out all of the versions of all of them.

sullen mortar
#

just tried posiden sword

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its so

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so

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good

#

and fun

#

with zeus cast

deft charm
#

whats the best ewapon i can use and the best aspect

hollow gorge
#

That is going to be different for everyone. Kinda have to feel which ones vibe with you

dusty vault
#

There is a pinned guide of how much power you can expect from each aspect but as deranger said, just try everything

#

You don't need the best to easily win

deft charm
#

Ok thank you very much

leaden whale
#

Just unlocked the rail

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First try with it I beat the second area boss for the first time and made it all the way to the third area double boss

#

Also I just discovered aspects. How rare is titan blood? Haven’t used any yet, only got 2

dusty vault
#

After you first escape you get the biggest way to gain more and outside of that you have prophecies/trading at the lounge /shop in the final area may sell one

tender light
#

how to beat meg, been playing for 50 hours

final dune
#

do you have shield

tender light
#

yes i just used it and died still

#

never beaten her before

final dune
#

have you unlocked all weapons

tender light
#

yes

final dune
#

do you have zeus keepsake

#

do you have second revive and second dash

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if so try using the rail and the zeus keepsake, take zeus attack

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and on bosses dont be greedy

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if there's an attack you think you can't avoid then don't bother trying to deal damage during it just run away

heady spoke
#

Aegis is gonna be your most helpful for Meg. If you can, get get a Dionysus attack or Ares special both are optimal but either one can get you past Meg fairly easy.

final dune
#

neither of those are optimal

#

but also they already said they died on shield

heady spoke
#

The point of the game is to die

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And try again

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And try again

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And so on

heady spoke
# final dune neither of those are optimal

Chip damage on the quick attack for the god of wine. Ares special means you can throw the shield and run away while a second layer it deals minimal 50 dmg, that’s like a rechargeable cast.

final dune
#

yeah

final dune
upbeat spoke
#

tbh Meg I'd say can be completely bruteforced just by upgrading the mirror, 50 hours being stuck on Meg seems way too long

#

so my first question would be what mirror upgrades you have

heady spoke
# final dune the special isn't worth using and the attack is better off with a %

On many weapons this is true. However, the shield does so little damage on each individual attack, a viable strategy is to rack up chip damage. Same with the special. If you throw the shield, you can hit multiple enemies for low damage but with curse of pain, it will let you distribute a better damage output to a wide range.

final dune
#

25 base damage

#

epic aph adds 25

#

while the realistic answer is either get zagshield or get cshot

#

% will just work better

heady spoke
#

Then I respect your experience. I will still offer mine which let me beat the game

final dune
#

mike on the way to tell me im wrong and bad

viscid notch
#

Just focus on learning the attack patterns and empty dashing to dodge. Your "build" barely matters at this point

final dune
#

nvm we're good for nwo

viscid notch
#

If you wanna facetank everything you'll win once in a while and die in the biome right after so it's pointless

#

But yea 50 hours seems a big long. Maybe consider god mode

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Then switch back once comfortable

odd forge
#

This is one of those situations where a better god mode that worked like configurable inverse heat would be the best solution.

fiery kraken
#

Is there a way to see how many times you have complete a run? The only time I can see is at the end of the run.

final dune
#

at the end of the run is the only reliable and not time consuming one

#

although i think you can add up between your weapons

#

when you highlight them

#

it should show you total escapes i think

#

but the other way is to go and count in the administrative chamber

fiery kraken
#

ok thanks

fiery kraken
#

Geesh I try doing the 20% fast attack and speed for the punishment but was too fast for me lol. I rather have less options of Boons or something.

final dune
#

spoiler that

#

||FO is definitely hard to adjust to but you'd 100% prefer that to AP||

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||AP and RI are deceptively difficult||

fiery kraken
deft charm
#

Is there any way to dodge 2nd phase hades explosion

karmic hornet
#

time a dash through it

proud bobcat
light totem
#

.

final dune
#

how times change

deft charm
#

Are the aspects of non olympians always the best?

hollow gorge
#

Not necessarily

#

Both in terms of loose consensus and what you'll prefer personally.

smoky yarrow
#

I've just recently obtained access to the Aspects for the arms.

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Done some research and poured all my Titan Blood in Aspect of Eris as my preferred carry.
Is this an ok decision?

covert nest
#

I think just dump blood into whatever weapons you find fun as you cant really be set back at all by making a mistake with your blood

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however eris does shred

smoky yarrow
#

Learned that Eris is both solid and flexible in how it works

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Since its buff applies on everything

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And it worked out for me cause I reached the farthest I got....dying to a surprise phase 2 of Hades.

#

Btw do the keepsakes for the olympians only work post-boss battle?

#

I tried using it at the start of the run and it didnt work

upbeat spoke
#

didn't work how

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if you got a hammer instead of boon first that can happen

#

the keepsake doesn't guarantee that next reward is a boon, just that next boon you get is from that god

#

and even that isn't always true, if you for example had a room with two exits then you could get offered room with the keepsake god and other room could have different god and you could just go to that room instead

#

also there are some scripted boons when you're starting out that will override the keepsake

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poseidon has two for example

#

but the keepsake will trigger afterwards

smoky yarrow
#

That makes sense

#

Got the fishing rod boon that increases fishing spots

upbeat spoke
#

yep that is one of the scripted ones

leaden whale
#

Welp, I made it to the redacted on run 19

#

Got handed though

low sparrow
#

Apparently the wretched broker sells Tartarus blood for diamonds, but I don’t see that in my shop? Is there something I need to progress?

craggy peak
#

I’m not sure, but some options may not be available until you beat a specific boss

#

Even then, I don’t think there is a direct diamond to blood trade that isn’t the limited time offer

dusty vault
#

Yeah some trades are just once between runs

#

The one that's always available is ambrosia>titan blood

stone zephyr
#

How many hours should it take to beat your first run?

viscid notch
ebon nova
stone zephyr
covert nest
#

took me 46 runs to get my first win

odd forge
#

It took me 106 runs to get my first win...

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(and then another 10 runs after to get my second, IIRC)

bright frost
odd forge
#

TBH, I think most of the time I was dying in Elysium or to ||those bloody poison satyrs||.

gilded lance
#

now unlock ||extremer measures|| and make him fight you for real

odd forge
#

Oh, gods, this was ages ago and I never managed to get anywhere with ||any real heat applied|| 🙂

bright frost
gilded lance
#

my bad I didn't read and thought you just cleared your first run. congrats, still.

covert nest
#

My first win was ares on special zag aspect shield cheese

odd forge
#

Shield cheese got my to my first encounter with ||Hades||, but the ||second phase|| killed me very very quickly.

bright frost
#

classic

gilded lance
#

my first win was zag rail with zeus boons. turns out having a straight up gun helped a lot

bright frost
covert nest
#

Bro aspect ofhera is so awkward to use

sweet brook
#

Try rebinding cast to somewhere more convenient

#

Also use Aphrodite cast to one shot enemies

gilded lance
#

yeah aph cast is actually good on hera

covert nest
#

Ill try that

#

Might just stick with rail though

smoky yarrow
#

What is considered as the all purpose mirror talent build?

#

Or if it's based on the Aspect, what mirror build is best for Aspect of Eris?

sweet brook
#

basically this but death defiance instead of stubborn defiance

#

you'd basically use this on ever aspect

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the only difference would be gods' legacy instead of gods' pride for 1 or 2 builds

#

stygian or infernal soul is also aspect dependent

#

but apart from those specific aspects, stygian or infernal soul doesn't really matter

covert nest
#

fiery presence over whatever the backstab damage talent is, damn

sweet brook
#

stygian gives better hermes odds for something good (and can give you bad news, which is bugged)
infernal can give you lightning rod, which is also really good

sweet brook
#

backstabs are really only useful against bosses, and you dont really aim to get those

smoky yarrow
#

Sell me on Fiery Presence.

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My logic is based on boss priority

sweet brook
#

if you're relying on the occasional 50% more damage on bosses then there's an issue with the build

sweet brook
#

this is new players

#

just use thick skin

sweet brook
#

like for example eris rail

#

the special can't backstab

#

a bullet backstab is 5 bonus damage

final dune
#

hera

sweet brook
#

if you take fiery, the special can hit for 75% more damage

sweet brook
final dune
#

on hera shadow isnt going to greatly increase boss damage

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even if you hit 100% backstabs

#

but fiery pets you not load a cast for some tart enemies

sweet brook
#

that's true

final dune
#

on hestia it makes bpoints easier

sweet brook
#

very few aspects can make the case for using shadow presence

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if you want to maximize boss damage, then shadow would be decent on like hestia i guess

viscid notch
#

Hera backstabs are no joke but you need parting Shot

sweet brook
#

achilles can use shadow presence i guess but that's just because of the way you play achilles and not for maximum boss damage

viscid notch
#

It was the old strat used for speedrunning but Snow burst just became more appealing after a certain point and getting both is pretty unreliable so the switch to Fiery became better for the sake of breakpoints. Also Flurry Hera wasn’t always as appealing as it is now that helped too.

smoky yarrow
#

Does Stygian Soul recovery remove the Cast ammo inside an enemy?

#

Just thinking of Boiling Blood applications

smoky yarrow
#

Nice

sweet brook
#

if you dont feel like upgrading stygian soul, you can still use infernal

#

that difference doesn't really matter 90% of the time

#

cast builds generally use infernal anyways and if you dont feel like switching your mirror ever then i recommend just using infernal

smoky yarrow
#

Does Infernal allow for multiple casts active at once?

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Like for Dionysus or Ares' cast for example

sweet brook
#

yeah

smoky yarrow
#

So infernal is really a better one for burst damage

sweet brook
#

yeah but not every build is going to build around the cast

#

most builds don't

smoky yarrow
#

At the very least I want a cast ammo inside the boss

sweet brook
#

i mean you can do that with stygian just fine

#

dionysus and ares casts can't even lodge as well

smoky yarrow
#

Infernal sounds like the better default just because it applies better to non-lodging types

sweet brook
#

infernal is almost always better for cast builds

#

but if you're not going to build around it then stygian vs infernal doesn't matter at all

smoky yarrow
#

Thats why I'm just deciding on what I will default onto in case I get one of the better Cast boons

sweet brook
#

stygian gives you better odds to get better boons from hermes, which is the only reason it's good basically

sweet brook
#

or like before you start the run, when you're picking aspects

smoky yarrow
#

if I'm going Eris, I should just use cast for Boiling Blood lodging? Or are there any Cast Boons always worth getting no matter the run?

sweet brook
#

for every build that isn't cast centric, you use the cast for boiling blood

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so for eris you'd just use it for boiling blood

final dune
#

electric shot is pog too

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with global buff

#

its not worth going for in particular tho

sweet brook
#

there are some niche cases where you can get a good cast but most of the time it's just for boiling blood

final dune
#

since u would rather get jolted or a splitting prereq

smoky yarrow
#

Ok that means I'm avoiding non-lodging types

final dune
#

yeah generally

#

hunting blades has a niche on eris

#

if u have arty special

smoky yarrow
#

THE build I heard for Eris is Zeus attack, Artemis special, and get lucky with hammer giving Artillery and/or Rockets?

sweet brook
#

yeah

#

artemis/aphrodite special generally

final dune
#

and tida dash

sweet brook
#

but any % modifier on the special can work fine as long as it isn't poseidon

#

oh yeah and tidal dash

final dune
#

and jolted

sweet brook
#

ideally you get 2/3 of those gods in tartarus

final dune
#

tdash higher priority than spec i believe

smoky yarrow
#

Poseidon dash?

final dune
#

yea

#

best dash

smoky yarrow
#

How do you use it with gameplay of Eris kinda going in the face close to enemies for special buff?

sweet brook
#

if you're wondering why tdash, it's because it has big damage and the global boost from eris goes a long way

final dune
#

everything in this game is a melee weapon

sweet brook
#

kinda

smoky yarrow
#

Ah

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Just the raw damage

#

Of boost

sweet brook
#

pretty much

#

the dash itself is like idk 100 is probably about right with enough poms

#

yeah let's just say ~100

#

75% boost from eris makes it kinda fat

smoky yarrow
#

Btw why Zeus shots? To make normals deal with mobs alongside the extra damage?

sweet brook
#

it's decent aoe

final dune
#

and good damage

#

and procs jolted

sweet brook
#

and also common zeus attack will give the same boost as an epic max damage aphrodite attack

#

not including the chain

smoky yarrow
#

Yeah I got jolted in a run. I can barely register the friendly fire cause too busy with Eris buff chore

sweet brook
#

jolted is hella strong

final dune
#

pom it like tdash

smoky yarrow
#

Tdash and Jolted boons are prio poms over normal and special?

sweet brook
#

zeus attack doesn't really need poms because jolted and tdash are going to be doing the heavy work

#

at the start it's fine to pom a bit if you dont have anything else to pom

final dune
#

you can pom zeus atk like once

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and special like once

sweet brook
#

less things to pom but you'll still get good damage

final dune
#

also better dmg

sweet brook
#

yeah

final dune
#

because its 40-80 additive and 40 mult

sweet brook
#

will say that 1 pom on that is still pretty good tho, like ~30% or so? i remember it being pretty fat surprisingly

final dune
#

and mult stacks on eris buff

sweet brook
#

not the worst thing to pom but it's decent

#

if the other choices suck lmao

hollow gorge
#

Good safe way to have things die, and gets the nice eris boost

lapis harbor
#

whats the best aspect for each weapon?

final dune
#

nem achilles hidden hera/hidden dem eris/hestia

lapis harbor
#

how do i get hidden

#

its the last one for each weapon right

final dune
#

yea

smoky yarrow
#

For Rail, do Triple Bomb and Artillery stack?

#

cause....damn

covert nest
#

Imagine getting rocket cluster bomb and hazard bomb, would they stack?

smoky yarrow
#

i remember some Hammer boons do change the very nature of the normal or special that it looks like it'll never stack with the other ones that alternate the effects

bright lynx
#

Will shattered shackle give a boost to my attacks and specials if I want to use something in the cast slot?

smoky yarrow
#

Also are Hermes' boons by nature improve your basics without the chance to override other boon properties? So far that's what I keep seeing on him

bright lynx
covert nest
#

yes

bright lynx
#

thanks

smoky yarrow
#

For Eris build, should I prioritize attack damage or special damage?

viscid notch
smoky yarrow
#

i knew it

#

it depends if i ever get artillery or triple special

#

I'm basing it off of the payoff on Chaos boon

smoky yarrow
#

I guess I should just abuse God Mode for this normal save file

#

I plan on doing Hell Mode anyway

viscid notch
#

I mean if you abuse god mode on a normal file then switch to hell mode you'll probably need like 100 attempts to beat it

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Hell mode is pretty tough

smoky yarrow
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i read up on it

viscid notch
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For starting out. And it's very restrictive

smoky yarrow
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Well I meant like after I have fully completed everything in a normal save file and learned every ins and outs

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I'm making a hell mode save file

viscid notch
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Yea that makes more sense then

smoky yarrow
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getting my ass handed down to me by redacted's 2nd phase

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and it might just be me panic dashing out

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and wasting my 2 dashes

viscid notch
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Should spoiler the boss' name in this channel

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Just remember that dash striking strips iframes

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So if you ever panic atleast empty dash

smoky yarrow
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like clicking dash with pauses?

viscid notch
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No. Empty dashing just means dashing without pressing another action in the middle, because that transforms it into a dash strike and you're no longer invulnerable

smoky yarrow
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ah

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ok.....

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so that's the part which is still present in Non-Hell mode

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the invulnerability of the dash

viscid notch
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That's present all the time

smoky yarrow
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btw

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Rail

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hammer

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no special, only attack

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is Delta Chamber the way to go?

viscid notch
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The part that gets disabled in hell mode is the invulnerability shield that pops up when you take a lot of damage continuously

viscid notch
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Delta Chamber is bugged

viscid notch
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Dash strikes do not strip the iframes on delta

smoky yarrow
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ok what part is abusable in delta?

viscid notch
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So it is basically the safest option you can have

smoky yarrow
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dash shooting?

viscid notch
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Yea you can just dash strike endlessly

smoky yarrow
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lemme try...

viscid notch
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Unlike other weapons where you'l have to stop to actually dodge then resume attacking afterwards

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Basically no downtime on damage when it comes to delta

smoky yarrow
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Rocket or Cluster?

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I can only choose one rightnow

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Ok now i know how Rocket works

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it makes for easier application of Eris buff although that does mean you either hug a wall or be close to your enemy

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i don't mind the latter

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got Tidal Dash

hollow gorge
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Oh yeah, for eris I find cluster easier. Guess it's a little late now.

smoky yarrow
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indeed

hollow gorge
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Hopefully you can get both

smoky yarrow
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oh i wish to see the havoc

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i can only hope River Styx has a hammer

hollow gorge
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Tidal dash might make Eris rockets harder lol

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Is that your first hammer or second?

smoky yarrow
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2nd....

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piercing shot was first

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sorry...

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welp no hammer in river styx

hollow gorge
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Yeah, you get max (and almost always) 2 hammers a run, like Hermes, with the possibility of anvil or third hermes in the styx shop

smoky yarrow
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so i was right

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Hermes is like a Hammer

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except for Zag

hollow gorge
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?

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Except for zag? Wdym

smoky yarrow
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i meant that it buffs his basics rather than apply a property

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Hammer is for Arm
Hermes is for Zag

hollow gorge
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Sorta I guess

smoky yarrow
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I hate Satyr tunnels so much

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small spaces

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poison...

hollow gorge
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Got tidal dash and rockets, right?

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Those should help

smoky yarrow
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it works well together yeah

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Got my first victory. Required 22% God Mode though.

smoky yarrow
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should I treat Hermes like a Hammer?

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doesn't override anything but always useful?

dusty vault
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Yeah that works

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He also shares the 2 boons per run rule with hammers + prioritized if you don't have them yet

hollow gorge
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Getting a nice hammer early can definitely help lot, but yeah, if you want to select a god it'll likely show later

smoky yarrow
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Well, I just made my Gun run into a Shotgun run

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Had to check off the Fate list

dusty vault
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Spread fire gaming

smoky yarrow
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I want T.Dash and Rocket more than ever now

smoky yarrow
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Triple Bomb or Cluter bomb?

dusty vault
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Still the same run with spread fire?

smoky yarrow
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new one

final dune
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cluster

smoky yarrow
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I know Cluster is better for mobs. And Triple Bomb is better for bosses or concentrated burst

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but which one is generally better?

final dune
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where did u learn that

dusty vault
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Cluster

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Also yeah where

smoky yarrow
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Just from experience. I can just put 3 bombs in one area against the boss/miniboss