#h1-for-new-players

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sweet brook
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||if you have no DDs left, it'll always regen you health no matter what, but only during combat||

leaden whale
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It's not quite as nice as the 3 rapid placements imo but its still quite fun

sweet brook
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||once you get a DD, it doesnt regen anymore||

full mural
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forever unless you get back a dd

sweet brook
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fun fact, rocket bomb + cluster bomb is allowed in this game
another fun fact, the reduced special damage from cluster doesn't apply to rocket bomb

full mural
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sounds destructive

sweet brook
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although cluster bomb prob feels worse than triple (imo it kinda is), it's always worth picking up because clockets is so damn good

sweet brook
quiet marten
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guys whats a purple drop thingy on the door?

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i know key opens new weapons

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but what does the drop do?

full mural
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helps make you stronger when you use a certain object in your room

quiet marten
tired canopy
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Based on certain upgrades you might get later, it might also heal you or increase your max HP.

full mural
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those upgrades aren't until way later

leaden whale
sweet brook
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upgrading the mirror

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i think once you unlock the mirror perk that shows up lmao

leaden whale
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Ohhh right right

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Right

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I forgot I didnt have that yet

sweet brook
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a house contractor upgrade later lets you get more in a run as well

leaden whale
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Is Zeus rarer than other boons or is that just my RNG

sweet brook
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all rng

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are you aware of how the god pool works?

leaden whale
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no

sweet brook
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basically, you can only find 4 gods naturally
some midshop crap can make it so you get 5, but typically, once you get 4 you only see boons from those 4 gods the rest of the run

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unless you force more with keepsakes

quiet marten
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like on my second boon

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i chose dash lightning

sweet brook
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so if you start zeus, find aphrodite and poseidon in tartarus, and then force artemis in asphodel, you wont see any more different gods the rest of the run (excluding hermes and chaos)

quiet marten
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guys i just got an op power

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something called world splitter from a god's hammer thingy

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im oneshotting everything lol

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except the big monsters

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i just found athena

tidal condor
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World splitter is fun

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So is quake cutter or whatever for fist

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They’re a little to dangerous to be reliable but they do a lot of damage

quiet marten
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@tidal condor who is the worst god??

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in terms of boons

tidal condor
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On their own, probably ares

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He needs a lot of support to be any good

quiet marten
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what about the god of drink

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i forgot his name

tidal condor
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He’s good on some weapons

quiet marten
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and do they give the same boons everytime?

tidal condor
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Nope

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Random selection from what you’re eligible for

quiet marten
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if i had the choice of a heart and the god of drink who should i choose

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im confused

tidal condor
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🤷‍♂️

quiet marten
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who would you choose

tidal condor
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You’ll never know if you like his boons if you don’t try them

quiet marten
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im using melee sword cause i hated bow XD

quiet marten
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wait a sec

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you lose all your boons if you die!?

sweet brook
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roguelike lol

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start from the beginning

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you do get the mirror of night which is permanent

quiet marten
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what do i do with house contractors?

quiet marten
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guys i got this weird thing which i didnt get on doors till now

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looks like some yellow potion or sand idk

tidal condor
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I don’t even know what a yellow potion would be lol

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Oh nectar

quiet marten
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what do i do with it?

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shall i choose that?

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and if i die, will i lose it?

leaden whale
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So I asked an AI Chatbot which weapons are best, and it listed 1 I've not heard of. Does a "||Stygian Axe||" exist?

tidal condor
leaden whale
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If that weapon exists, how do I obtain it?

tidal condor
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Dang I want an axe

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It doesn’t

leaden whale
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Weird, I guess the AI is just giving misinformation again

tidal condor
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I would not take the word of an AI as fact lmao

leaden whale
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Fair

quiet marten
tidal condor
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The game will tell youuuu

leaden whale
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Is there a reliable Boon Tier List?

sweet brook
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Nope

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Boons are dependent on aspects

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Ofc there's some that will never be good but point still stands

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You'd have to do a tier list for every aspect basically

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And no one wants to do that

tidal condor
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Tier list: Tidal Dash F, Divine Dash F

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/j

sweet brook
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True

quiet marten
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guys

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i found a weird door

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its like arrow

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but it has another symbol too

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like i know arrow as a godess

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and there are like 2 doors

tidal condor
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Skull icon means it’s a miniboss or a harder room

quiet marten
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but also 2 more symbols

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one of the arrow godess

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and another one is drunk god i think?

tidal condor
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Ah

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Take it and find out

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🙂

quiet marten
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can i send pic?

tidal condor
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It’s not a bad thing

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As you might be able to guess

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It’s… a boon from both of those gods

quiet marten
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is poseidon a good god or a bad one?

leaden whale
tidal condor
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None of them are bad

leaden whale
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Is this because of ||Extreme Measures||

sweet brook
tidal condor
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Yes

leaden whale
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And people say this is the EASIEST ||heat||??

sweet brook
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Yes

sweet brook
quiet marten
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oh so many spoilers

sweet brook
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Most of the others aren't like that

quiet marten
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im resisting hard to click em lmao

sweet brook
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Yeah don't read them lol

quiet marten
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im really unsure if i should choose poseidon or drunk god and arrow god 😳

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i am type of guy who spends 2h+ on character creation screen

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and its hard for me to take decisions

tidal condor
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Character creation is different

quiet marten
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well, i have never seen poseidon

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so i will pick him

tidal condor
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That’s a one time thing you can’t undo

quiet marten
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but on this side there are 2 gods

tidal condor
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You will be making these decisions a lot in hades

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So no need to think so hard on it

quiet marten
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i picked poseidon

tidal condor
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💦

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His dash is nice

quiet marten
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how many chambers do i have to cross?

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to finish the gaem

tidal condor
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Theres nearly 70 in a full run

leaden whale
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Does the "Your special is faster" hermes thing make your shield of zeus attack faster or travel faster

sweet brook
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Travel I think?

tidal condor
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Attack

sweet brook
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Probably travel

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Oh

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Idk

tidal condor
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I think?

sweet brook
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It helps lmao

tidal condor
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It’s usually animation speed

sweet brook
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What are the other options

tidal condor
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Of the attack

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Not travel speed

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Like rail special for example

sweet brook
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Oh that is true

tidal condor
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They don’t come down faster

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So for Zeus I think it would just make the launch animation shorter

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But idk!

leaden whale
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okay!

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Thanks

sweet brook
quiet marten
tidal condor
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14?

quiet marten
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tartartle something

tidal condor
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I think

sweet brook
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Tartarus

tidal condor
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Yes, tartartle

sweet brook
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And yeah 14

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12 is last combat before boss, 14 is boss

quiet marten
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wait im on chamber 13

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now's chamber 14

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thats why the door was looking different

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what can i expect from the boss?

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i got 45/75 health

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frick she killed me

tidal condor
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She does that

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Make sure you’re spending darkness at the mirror

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The extra dash is very strong

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And so is the extra life

quiet marten
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ok will do

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@tidal condor who do i give nectar to?

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i have 2 of em

tidal condor
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Anyone you want

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But the gods first is a good idea

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You do it before you pick up their boon

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The first nectar you give anyone gets you a reward

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So you’ll probably want to give one to everyone first before you start giving seconds

quiet marten
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i only got em now

tidal condor
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The gods you encounter when you’re trying to escape

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You can give the nectar to them (the icon you pick up to get their boons)

quiet marten
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ohk

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what does giving nectar to them do

tidal condor
quiet marten
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ohk

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ugh this fricking boss keeps on killing me

tidal condor
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Dash more

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Don’t stand still

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You’ll get better

north ledge
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spam every key

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eventually it will be calculated spam

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especially dash

leaden whale
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Gods pride or gods legacy?

quiet marten
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😂

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i really didnt think about dashing ngl lol

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i was just spamming every key to kill her

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shield block and punching

tidal condor
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Pride for general play

north ledge
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damn i dont even know what this stuff is

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post game content ig

tidal condor
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Not really

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It’s the 11th mirror talent

north ledge
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oh

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i wonder how long it will take for me to get the entire mirror done

tidal condor
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||heat|| goes in spoiler tags in this channel

storm hearth
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hello guys! any tips on how to get more darkness? really want to max out the mirror

tidal condor
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Use weapons you’ve already beaten the bosses with

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Get Chaos Eclipse boons

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and Poseidon Ocean’s Bounty

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That’s really all you can do to get more

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Take Darkness at Sisyphus

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Darkness rooms are not really worth taking because it’s so little

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So just get a good build and kill bosses

plucky ridge
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i wanna ask

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i got titan's blood

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and it says i can upgrade with it

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but i cant

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i have all 4 weapons unlocked too and they said i just needed to press the equip weapon button twice

sick lodge
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im thinking about getting hades is it worth it?

fading scarab
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As someone who got it this past weekend I’m having a lot of fun with it

sick lodge
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okkk ill get it then!!!

fading scarab
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(Tbh I don’t know if you were really expecting a “no” in the discord server for the game but still)

sick lodge
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is it ok if i dm u with questions if i have any later

fading scarab
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I mean sure but I’m barely into the game I think

sick lodge
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i just baught it btw

fading scarab
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Not really, I’m still not too far in

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Give nectar to Cerberus whenever you get one is the only one I can really think of

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He gives you a good item

sick lodge
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oh okk

little tiger
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the collar isnt that good ngl

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also you know that they only give you stuff for the first time you give them nectar?

cobalt bay
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Each person you can give nectar to will give you an item the first time. Except for Hades. But Cerberus item is a great help starting out I think

little tiger
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Well once you get the mirror upgrade that gives extra health you wouldn't need it anymore

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and there's better keepsakes definetly

cobalt bay
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Yeah but collar you can get way sooner

little tiger
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one extremely bad downside is that the extra health goes away if you switch keepsakes

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so if you'd switch to acorn for dad you'd lose the max hp

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Why does it say you're new here

fading scarab
little tiger
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oh my bad

cobalt bay
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Skelly keepsake is good too, can be nice to use collar for the health until your death defiance triggers and then switch to skelly for another death defiance.

little tiger
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i was looking at discord join date

little tiger
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get acorn above all

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why have extra health when you take less hits

fading scarab
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I only found her once I think

cobalt bay
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One of the things it tooo me a while to figure out was you cannot get hit while dashing, but if you attack while dashing then you CAN get hit. So be careful about that

fading scarab
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She’s the npc in Asphodale right?

little tiger
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Yeah's she's in asphodel

craggy root
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is 200 gems worth it for one blood thingy?

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(limited time offer)

sick lodge
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I already have 1 key, should i save it and get a better wepon or get the bow?

slate finch
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get the bow, all the weapons are good

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when you can get a weapon get one

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you do not need to ask in 3 channels btw just here is fine

sick lodge
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oh oke tyy

silent bane
leaden whale
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Does Hades have a New Game+ or would a 2nd save file act identical to the first one but just earlier in progression

old escarp
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There's no NG+

sick lodge
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i just got nector for the first time who do i give it to

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im in the shop rn

sick lodge
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i gave it away already but just want the best item from it xD

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ok

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ty

cobalt bay
sick lodge
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i have 5 keys right now, and i am using the bow. Do i buy a new wepon or should i get the next mirror thing with the keys?

leaden whale
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What happens when ||tight deadline|| runs out? Do you instantly die? Or do things just get harder?

sweet brook
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||you lose 5 hp per second||

leaden whale
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Holy crap the shield's hammer that makes it a piercing bolt instead of bull rush is so overpowered

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I just did the first half of the first phase of ||Hades|| hitless because I'm constantly defending and none of his attacks break my block it seems

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Gonna keep going and see if I can do the whole fight hitless

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Hmm, for some reason I got hit by a ||circle attack|| so it won't be hitless, I think he got it just as I was re-blocking after firing

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Also helps that my piercing bolt is buffed by athena so it also deflects xD

sweet brook
sweet brook
leaden whale
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Got him to phase 2, wish me luck on my second ever clear!

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Literally all thanks to that one hammer xD

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As the leaf by my name implies, I was not aware this was a a channel. As a new player, I love that this channel exists, and I also love that the channel you linked exists. Thank you

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If one is from Than, I literally have no idea where it's possible to give him a gift, I've tried in both encounters and the hades house but either way he dont want gift

leaden whale
uneven marten
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after ||defeating him in the battle||

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||the killing contest ||

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u know

leaden whale
uneven marten
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idk

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i am 3 victories in kek

leaden whale
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Oh yeah I've done those but he never wants a gift I swear wtf

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I guess I'll just keep trying

hushed cape
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Be persistent

leaden whale
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What about the other one?

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I'm missing Than and one other

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Between Nyx's and Charon's

hushed cape
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You have be sssssssneaky like a ssssssake to find them

uneven marten
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||its hades||

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the last keep sake

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iirc

hushed cape
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Oh I thought it was for the || romance ||

leaden whale
leaden whale
uneven marten
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||he is prob the only char who needs more than 1||

hushed cape
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I said to much

uneven marten
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wrong ping

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but

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dam

cobalt bay
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Yeah the shield is easy mode if you are not concerned with things t taking a long time

leaden whale
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Okay well I'm looking forward to... that... I guess.. but yeah, so just Than and ||Hades|| then

leaden whale
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This becomes a problem around ||TD2-3|| right?

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...Oh, I think I know what you mean by ||Romance||

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(Don't know why it isn't embedding but I promise I won't give you a virus)

hushed cape
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No it’s you just have a drink with dusa

cobalt bay
sick lodge
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how do i get the final 2 wepons to appear in there places?

leaden whale
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Apparantly it takes more than one for him

leaden whale
sick lodge
leaden whale
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Fantastic, now go on a run :)

sick lodge
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ok

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will they be there when i next die?

hushed cape
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Yes

leaden whale
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One will.

sick lodge
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ok

cobalt bay
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I am pretty sure yo gift than in house of hades but he doesn’t always take it, it opens up after a certain number of conversations maybe

leaden whale
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Is there ever a fishing chance in fountain rooms?

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Are the developers still patching Hades/adding updates and DLC or is that expected to stop with the announcement/development of Hades 2?

sick lodge
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should i give my nector to hades, zeus or posidon?

leaden whale
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Do you like Zeus's or Posiedon's boons?

sick lodge
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zeus

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1000000 percent

leaden whale
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Gift to Zeus, and you'll get something that can garauntee you Zeus boons

sick lodge
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okk

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should i gift chaos a nector?

leaden whale
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Sure, go for it

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They give something that I've used a few times, but always switch off at the end of tartarus

leaden whale
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Does ||Nourished Soul|| affect death/stubborn defiance?

sweet brook
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no

leaden whale
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Reccommendation here?

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Between the Leg and the Duo, obviously

faint umbra
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i would say legendary for the prophecy

leaden whale
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fair

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What is the DEAL with Styx cerb gifts? Is it garaunteed to show up by your 3rd room? Can it show up on your 1st room?

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Feels like the most pseudo-RNG RNG ever

sweet brook
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never first room

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and yeah it is rng

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can show up between 2-5 rooms

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there's like a 50-some chance of getting a 2 sack

thin heart
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anyone broke down the chances?

sweet brook
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yeah

thin heart
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and whether it depends on room choice

sweet brook
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idk if it's a predetermined sack after you finish the first tunnel or not tho

manic gulch
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yall think i should speedrun to ||epilouge||or just spoil myself. Rn im trying to ||get final amborsia to than|| and runs just feel like a chore to quickly gift gods

warped cobalt
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WHAT WHY DOES ||HADES ||HAVE A ||SECOND HEALTHBAR||

cobalt bay
cobalt bay
quick monolith
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I have four keys, should I save them to get more upgrades or should I get a new weapon? If so, spear or shield?

proven pivot
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Shield or upgrades

sterile sandal
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I started the game yesterday and I love it so far

cobalt bay
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I usually buy weapon when it has dark thirst , otherwise I will buy mirror upgrades as they will help you progress further than a new weapon will

sweet brook
cobalt bay
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I guess some modder looked at the code and theres basically random chance each room (not each wing) you enter and it’s based on a lot of things but ultimately it means you will get it on second wing more than half the time. It’s not predetermined (if it were, you couldn’t get it in 2 half the time…)

green moth
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how to get those keep stacks golden ones

tidal condor
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Max out nectar for Meg than Sisyphus skelly dusa Achilles

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And then give them an Ambrosia

tidal condor
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But not until you win quite a few more times

green moth
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I CANT

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game doesnt let me

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give them

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or even talk

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i do talk to him

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bu tdoesnt let me give anything

tidal condor
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Just have to keep talking until you get the heart unlocked

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For Meg she will show up in your room and talk to you

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That’s what unlocks the heart for her

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Then next time you see her you can give ambrosi

green moth
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what is

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guan yun

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howw to unlock that

tidal condor
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It’s a spoiler (the name)

leaden whale
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Of the first 3, what would yall say is the best bow aspect

sweet brook
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hera

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by a long shot

leaden whale
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Even if I use stygian whatever?

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Where the casts auto-regen?

sweet brook
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dont use stygian

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use infernal

leaden whale
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why

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Stygian feels better to me

sweet brook
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you need more casts to clear rooms than regen

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the idea with hera is to 1shot enemies

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with crush shot

leaden whale
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Okay so in general you're not saying Stygian is bad, just-

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If I use hera, use Infernal.

sweet brook
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oh yeah

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yes

leaden whale
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Gotcha, alright, I'll go for it thank!

green moth
distant bronze
gilded belfry
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finishing a run on the game is hard

distant bronze
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it's true but it's so worth it, I legitimately screamed (positively) when I cleared for the first time

open gust
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what does the stuff meg drops do?

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will I find out eventually or do I need to actively do something

green moth
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i finished

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20 times

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and yet cant progress

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with aspects

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or hearth

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idont get it

distant bronze
green moth
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Just one question

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Can I end the game just by finishing

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Over and over again

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Or just die at first chamber to get to the stories

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Ping me for replies

sick lodge
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what wepon do u guys main?

limpid verge
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Q:
Is there a method behind trial of the gods? Like should you go for one first?

sweet brook
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Whichever has a harder trial you take

tidal condor
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Go for Poseidon Aphrodite or Athena first if they’re one of the two

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And the spoiler god

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If both gods are one of those four

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Don’t take the trial probably

limpid verge
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Cool thanks

little tiger
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Poseidon is hell can confirm

open gust
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What is an "encounter"

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is it a room?

tidal condor
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A room with enemies in it

fringe aspen
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how i kill theseus and this stupid ass minotaur

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i’m using the awesome fists

fading scarab
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So I have the ability that lets me do 50% more damage to enemies with my cast stuck in them. I also have max 3 capacity for my cast. If I get all 3 of them stuck in a single enemy do I do 150% more damage to them or just 50%

gray haven
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Just 50%.

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+50% Attack and Special damage. It's not global damage bonus.

tidal condor
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Attack after he swings, avoid the swings and the jumps and the shockwaves

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Avoid the spear throws that Theseus does while you’re doing this

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Once Mino is down, stay at a distance from Theseus until he throws the spear and calls it back, then he will turn around and walk off for a while

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That’s your opening

fading scarab
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What was the point of the contest with Thanatos?

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Do I get more rewards if I win?

steady raptor
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yep

tidal condor
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If you win, you get a free centaur heart in addition to the reward for the room

steady raptor
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lose 50 hp clearing the room fast and getting that centaur heart WeSmart

tired canopy
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Can you skip boss invuln phases if, say, you get the hydra down to 40% and then deal like 3k damage in one hit?

steady raptor
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no

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I don' think so?

tired canopy
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It's probably difficult to test, I think things that can do it is probably max charged Aphrodite's call with several buffs?

steady raptor
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...how're you going to go in with max god gauge at the start of that fight?

tired canopy
steady raptor
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ah

gray haven
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Hydra skip was possible in early access for a time, but it would crash the game for some players, so they patched it out.

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So no.

steady raptor
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rip

fading scarab
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Do all of the gods not have prophecies for receiving all their boons? I only have Zeus Athena and Hermes in the book

vagrant mango
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they do

fading scarab
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How do I get them to show up in the list

steady raptor
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you just gotta keep playing and unlock them

fading scarab
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Oh

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Is it retroactive

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Like if I get one of Ares’s boons on the next run and I he shows up in the book two runs later will I still get the skill from my next run?

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Ah ok

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One more question

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Is there a way to remove Daedalus enchantments during a run

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I got the one that lunges you forward with special and it got really annoying

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I only got it for the prophecy

vagrant mango
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its so bad

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i decided to try it on nem aspect

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especially worse on nem

fading scarab
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Is the sword bad?

vagrant mango
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you have to special every some time to keep crits up

sweet brook
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sword isn't that great

vagrant mango
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but not very safe i would say

fading scarab
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Damn

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The only other one I really like that I’ve used is the trident

vagrant mango
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spear u mean

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?

sweet brook
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spear is pretty decent

fading scarab
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Yeah

vagrant mango
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anyway just use whatever u like

sweet brook
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yeah lmao

pulsar wharf
spiral kraken
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Is the crush shot & cast load combo good?

gray haven
#

Yes.

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Crush Shot is uncontested meta on Hera.

sterile plume
#

Out of curiosity, how exactly do multiple different dodge bonuses interact (such as Zagreus Fists and Lambent Plume)?

sweet brook
#

it's additive

#

so the base 15 from zag fists + whatever the plume is at is your dodge chance

sterile plume
#

18, at the moment, in this run, I only just got the Plume (new file). So 33%. Dang.

sweet brook
#

it's possible to get 100% dodge going, but requires ruthless reflex and/or second wind

sterile plume
#

Well, finishing out that run I had the Epic Second Wind and the Plume at 25.1%. Made ||Hades||(final boss) fairly straightforward.

sterile plume
#

Oh, whoops, sorry.

obtuse holly
#

Question

#

If i purge a boon

#

For example lets say i purged blade rift at the start of game

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Can i get it back later on the same run or i just wont see it on that specific run

warped cobalt
#

i was so happy

warped cobalt
trim creek
#

How many tries have people here used on First clear

vale berry
#

It took me like 5 tries to beat Meg

tidal condor
vale berry
#

So I didn’t see Hermes until the lava zone for the first time. Am I able to get boons for him in Tartarus now that I’ve met him once?

tidal condor
#

He doesn’t show up in Tartarus rooms. He can show up in the Tartarus shops though

#

He’s not a standard Olympian

#

You can only get two boons from him per run, sometimes a third if he shows up in the shop at the fourth area

sick lodge
#

is there any point doing contracts other then work orders?

tidal condor
#

Lounge stuff progresses dusa story

sick lodge
tidal condor
#

Some of the stuff in other tabs has interaction

#

Nothing super important

#

Room has a lot of interactions and one starts a prophecy

sick lodge
#

what are the best accessories?

#

like the ones u get for giving nector

tidal condor
#

The ones from the Olympian gods

slate finch
#

||pact|| is spoilers here

rapid pond
#

I see, sorry

tired canopy
warped cobalt
#

yea its that god damn ||balloon of butterflies||

floral lichen
#

nah nah nah. It's that ||Satyr Cultist miniboss||

slate finch
kind badge
#

how do i unlock aspects?

#

i have some blood and i wanted to get stygius nemesis

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but idk how to make the aspect menu to show up

#

(if that makes sense)

sweet brook
#

unlock every weapon and then do a run

fluid forge
#

Does||| hades|| have any minions or stationary targets that the lightning strike will be good for?

slate finch
fluid forge
#

how do i spoil mark

slate finch
#

|| these symbols on both sides ||

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there are minions but you don't really use lightning strike for the chain, you use it to activate jolted, which is one of the best boons in the game
if you have any fast-attacking weapon (fists, rail) lightning strike w/ jolted will be very good for that bossfight

leaden whale
#

TIL you can trade resources for titan blood, it goes 10 resources = 1 key (10r), 5 key = 1 nectar (50r), 10 nectar = 1 diamond (500r), 2 diamond = 1 ambrosia (1000r), 1 ambrosia = 1 titan's blood (1000r)

#

Is piercing wave buffed by everything that buffs sword attack?

sour terrace
#

no i don't think so

leaden whale
#

What do you recommend for the first 3 fist aspects?

uneven marten
#

is the ||charon card i got permanent or temporary||

leaden whale
#

Zagreus, Talos, or ||Demeter||?

leaden whale
uneven marten
leaden whale
#

But the achievement you got on Steam is permanent

#

:)

uneven marten
#

ye

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lmao

#

||the fight is so hard||

leaden whale
#

yeah I only beat him once, ||it's on par with the final boss imo||

uneven marten
#

||i can deathless hades or 1 death||

leaden whale
#

About equally hard, I only go for it in ||Elysium|| if it shows up at the ||mid-shop||

uneven marten
#

||charon always kills me twice or 3 times||

#

man

#

||he does 50 dmg with that swing||

sick lodge
#

i got 2 blood already and am on the minator + worrier boss and was wondering when will i get more blood and how?

leaden whale
#

okay but what do you recommend of the 3

sweet brook
#

Dem fists

green moth
#

do i need

#

heat

#

?

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i already did the

#

32 heaat

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for the statues

#

do i need for anything else

#

i want to progress in the story

#

do i just need to keep finish it

uneven osprey
#

only if you want to keep getting more materials to upgrade your stuff

green moth
#

im already good with my stuff i jsut wanna progress and get new aspectswhich idk how

#

guan yu thing

uneven osprey
#

otherwise i think you just need to carry on doing runs with various configurations and talking to different gods and making bonds w/ them, and they’ll help you unlock aspects n stuff

green moth
#

guan yu

#

whats that

#

how to get it

uneven osprey
#

i can’t remember exactly but ||one of the gods will tell you the activation phrase, i believe once you’ve unlocked the other aspects of the weapon||

green moth
#

i have all the weapons aspects and all

uneven osprey
#

oh wait sorry ||you get the activation phrase for the guan yu aspect from achilles, so just keep talking to him||

green moth
#

i got everything they need imo

#

ahh i do talk

#

but its always about

#

something else

uneven osprey
#

yeah it’s random, it’ll happen eventually

sick lodge
#

do the locked aspects unlock after you defeat hades or do you have to spend blood to unlock them?

green moth
#

i just asked if heat is any important in our story line or not

#

its not spoiler just information

uneven osprey
#

it technically is a spoiler, since new players haven’t necessarily encountered the concept

sick lodge
#

oh sorry

green moth
#

ahh lol its okei

sick lodge
#

if i do defeat the final boss does it unlock them?

uneven osprey
#

yeah the locked aspects you have to spend a certain amount of blood and then get the phrases from people

#

it’s overall progression + relationships, unrelated to final boss/escape progress afaik

sick lodge
#

oh i sent ya a dm with a question btw 🙂

#

ye in dms, it might be a dm request

uneven osprey
#

technically yes in practice tho probably more likely to trigger the dialogues if you’ve been past a lot of other dialogue lol

sick lodge
#

oh wierd idk why it didnt send

#

did it send now?

#

tysm for answering my questions tho and can i pls ask 1 more. the question was about how earlier i was asking how to get more blood and you said kill furies with other weapons. I have only ever killed them with the fists. So if i kill them with the sword or spear will it give me blood?

viscid notch
#

Yes

uneven osprey
green moth
#

how to open the locked hearths with others

#

like with eurodice

#

other meg nyx

tardy prism
#

Complete their full stories and get a random dialogue im assuming

green moth
#

i did completed their storiedd

#

nothing else to do

#

gave gifts keep talking

tall urchin
#

is heavy knuckle or concentrated knuckle better ?

#

i have attacks and special able to deflect

#

rly want a attack speed build

viscid notch
viscid notch
tall urchin
#

special flying kick deal 40

#

twice

#

i have special faster by 10%

tardy prism
#

Eurydice’s story ties in very heavily with Orpheus, you’d need both of them maxed out I think

tall urchin
#

concentrated would be rly good on boss right?

viscid notch
# tall urchin special flying kick deal 40

I would take concentrated here, but it's not that good, the attacks dont get to ramp up much. Heavy knuckle will slow you down, it's kinda okay with what you already have but I don't like the way it plays

tall urchin
#

wdym

#

the way it plays

viscid notch
#

Your punches become much slower

tall urchin
#

and i can unlock more weapons right, not like i have to do something secret ?

tall urchin
#

can my attack becone even faster ?

#

i know about hermes boon

#

any other ?

#

or the hammer boon ?

#

concentrated lasts 5 attacks ?

#

damn

viscid notch
tall urchin
#

the what

#

what is flurry

#

and i got flurry cast epic rapid cast fire by 60%

#

insane

viscid notch
tall urchin
#

where can i send image ?

#

well movespeed by 30% is almost useless

#

it was other option

#

cant remember 3rd one...

#

ikr

#

but i want attacks speed....

#

cant wait to get zeus cast chain lightning than anihilate room full of rats later than

#

i killed heroes

#

was pretty easy

#

my attack and special deflect really good

#

and sturdy when fighting

#

lost just one revive

#

so i have 4 now

#

got one from chaos

hushed cape
#

I might get flamed for this but I like to put Zeus on my attack

tall urchin
#

seems fine to me

#

lot of ligtning

#

cant wait to get still destroyed by ||hades||

green moth
#

how to learn lyre

#

i ahve been playing it

#

20 times a row

hushed cape
#

Spear and gun

proud citrus
#

This is a new players channel, they don't know about ||heat||

#

You only unlock it AFTER defeating the final boss, is did you know that?

trim creek
#

what do you guys think is the best weapons to play with? i use the spear but it's basically the only one i have used

proud citrus
hushed cape
#

Based

proud citrus
#

Especially shield of zeus when you unlock aspects

#

wrong, I like spear the 2nd best so it's the 2nd best

trim creek
#

i have heard good things about the shield but not a lot of people seem to like the spear so i thought i would ask

proud citrus
#

But it's my opinion that matters /s

green moth
proud citrus
#

as if I need some arbitrary thing

green moth
hushed cape
#

|| ||

proud citrus
proud citrus
#

as if I need some arbitrary thing

#

I'm VIVISOFT, otherwise known as ALABASTER SINCLAIR

green moth
proud citrus
#

And Alabaster Sinclair has good taste

#

no, my dad is Mr. Alabaster Sinclair

#

you are Aspect of Heroic L50 Divine Dash

#

🤯

green moth
#

||how to play the lyre||

proud citrus
#

Why do people say the bow is good

#

I hate the bow

#

What hammers make it not garbage?

#

Flurry shot, Exploding shot?

#

is Flurry shot good?

#

On hera.

#

I use Hera bow only

#

What's a good spell to use on Hera bow? I sometimes go for posieden cast, other itmes I go for divine fog bc of big damage

#

crush.. crush...

#

that's... who?

#

Ohhh right the short range weak cast

#

Okok

#

it do so much damage

#

Rolling Knuckle, Rush Kick, Heavy knuckle, what's best

#

dio

#

that

#

it do so much dmg

#

yes

#

why

#

ok

#

i like that

leaden whale
#

IDK, personally I don't like dealing damage

#

Spear is awesome tho

#

Flurry jab go BRRRRRR

#

Eats ||hades|| alive

#

you're using achilles, that messes with your controls

tall urchin
leaden whale
#

You just grind up enemies

tall urchin
#

spear

#

yeah

#

in usper unlucky with getting defence on it...

#

does miror other powerup happen or only those that are visible ?

sweet brook
#

only if its visible

tall urchin
#

best is gods legacy and dark foreskin ?

#

deflect

sweet brook
tall urchin
#

super good on hight speed attack

#

legendary is bad or what ?

tall urchin
#

how

viscid notch
#

It's not bad, it's just that the other option is better.

tall urchin
#

i should first max dark foresight than gods pride?

sweet brook
#

yes

#

also please use the right word lmao

#

it's foresight

tall urchin
#

oh my bad

#

Kekw

#

xD

viscid notch
#

I'll change it in my mirror guide

sweet brook
#

lmfao

tall urchin
#

got that from thick skin

#

wher miror guide ?

viscid notch
tall urchin
#

ruthless reflex or +1 dash ?

viscid notch
#

Occasionally Shields too

tall urchin
#

can i farm darkness ?

#

how

leaden whale
#

Okay, how do I unlock ||Guan-yu||? I have 5 different aspects unlocked now across my weapons.

#

Someone said I needed 5 aspects and then a certain dialogue

tall urchin
#

the fu**

leaden whale
#

Okay, so just keep running until achilles says something

tall urchin
#

hhhow

#

damn

viscid notch
#

You just finish runs really

tall urchin
#

so i shouldnt get dark foreskin if i want to get darkness right ?

leaden whale
#

At what level of the aspect does the zeus shield blitz disc benefit more from buffs like aphrodite/artemis than zeus/dio?

#

Why? That makes not much sense. You're only adding 45-ish damage to each hit, 30-60 or something depending on the rarity right

#

It's a flat rate instead of a % of the disc damage

#

My disc at level 5 deals 30 damage a hit base

#

So at some point, a 110% or whatever buff to that from aphrodite will start to do more damage than Zeus stuff, the more the higher you go, no?

viscid notch
#

30 is alright

#

It's not as high as some other stuff

#

And the Special ticks pretty fast so it's really good at applying curses to enemies

leaden whale
#

So as you get the aspect higher, zues will giv me more damage?

viscid notch
#

Common Aphro is 50%

tall urchin
#

i almost always beat heroes

#

isnt that enought ?

leaden whale
#

then what the hell does that chart mean

viscid notch
#

Oh Special yea

tall urchin
#

what

#

wdym clear

leaden whale
#

so poms will give me stronger buffs to zues stuff the higher level my aspect is?

tall urchin
#

to beat ||hades|| i just need to mainly dodge his attacks right ?

leaden whale
tall urchin
#

gotchu

tall urchin
#

and that renovation that adds ||fishing|| or something

#

what is that

#

do

leaden whale
#

OK BUT WHAT IF i have a chaos boon that makes my special do 50% more damage

tall urchin
#

i focus ||bull than guy||

leaden whale
#

Then I should take Aphrodite, right?

tall urchin
#

is it worth ?

leaden whale
#

wym its additive

#

it's 50% more

tall urchin
#

i need to find specific chamber ?

tardy prism
#

it can reflect theseus's spear...

#

and sometimes asterius in phase 2

#

not much good tho

tall urchin
#

where is fishing rod at ?

#

fishing in lava ?

leaden whale
tall urchin
#

location in chambers ?

tardy prism
#

it can be nice to spam attacks on him without having to worry about the spear

tall urchin
#

any ''big''location can have fishing rod ?

#

i use it in lava and air ?

#

where?

#

cuz i see lava or air or just wall

#

but chamber that has enemies i can fish ?

#

doesnt need to be specific like before boss chamber or empty but rewards or shop

#

ok

#

infernal soul of stygian soul ?

#

shadow presence should be good cuz later u have to ||fight enemies from back||

viscid notch
# leaden whale OK BUT WHAT IF i have a chaos boon that makes my special do 50% more damage

Zeus is one of those weapons where whatever Special you use can feel pretty solid because of the way the kit is designed. The Special has a nice balance of base damage and speed. However it is still overall better to use status effects, mainly Lightning and Doom. You can also further buff them with things like Static Discharge and Merciful End which sets them apart from % increase buffs which can be trickier to scale, it'll also be tougher to play, Zeus is already a tough weapon as it is.

tall urchin
#

how fast can cast regenerate ?

viscid notch
#

3s with no buffs

#

Hermes can make it lower

tardy prism
#

i usually have the 3 cast one just because i don't want to have to swap when i do a hera run

tall urchin
#

how much can be dark foreSIGHT up to %?

viscid notch
#

20%

tall urchin
#

and gods bride?

viscid notch
#

20%

tall urchin
#

same as gods legacy right ?

viscid notch
#

God's Legacy is 10%

tall urchin
#

can i fish darkness ?

viscid notch
#

You can

tall urchin
#

where can i send image ?

viscid notch
#

You can upload them elsewhere and copy their link here, Discord embeds it. But beware of sending embeds in this channel as you don't want to spoil things for others.

#

Just avoid it unless necessary or use another channel.

tall urchin
#

is mirror upgrades spoiling ?

viscid notch
#

No

tall urchin
#

what is a spoiler?

#

lore and bosses

#

how about weapons ?

viscid notch
#

Everything from the endboss onwards is considered a spoiler in this channel

viscid notch
tall urchin
#

idk what aspect is lmao

viscid notch
#

Well you'll know eventually, you're still pretty early in the game. At this point it's nicer to just discover stuff on your own

tall urchin
viscid notch
#

I'd probably max Family Favorite and Deep Pockets first then just equally upgrade Pride and Foresight

tall urchin
#

yeah

#

missclicked 3time in a row

#

kekw

#

that +1 dash box

#

looks like to be clicked

#

but it has to be the grey + button

#

plunder greater or urns of wealth i should max ?

leaden whale
#

Is Strong Drink good?

viscid notch
#

It's a nice buff if you get it early

tall urchin
#

on what weapons i can get lifesteal ?

#

is it boon or can be keepsake ?

viscid notch
#

You can get Lifesteal from some hammers but it's not that amazing

leaden whale
#

Just got cshot+minorush hotgrimm

tall urchin
#

what is ambroisa used for ?

leaden whale
#

Charged shot + Minotaur Rush

#

500% power shot on Charged Shot

#

1k damage hits

tall urchin
#

on bow ?

leaden whale
#

Shield

tall urchin
#

how much can deep pockets have ?

tall urchin
#

||hades keepsake refills gauge by every entry to chamber by that amout ?||

#

how do i gift to ||hades||?

#

is ||dusa keepsake worth||?

viscid notch
#

No

tall urchin
#

what ||Pact of Punishment rewards you with||?

proud citrus
#

A good tip for the Aspect of Nemesis sword is to KYS - Keep Yourself Shiny. This will make sure that your sword attacks are in sync with your special buff!

hushed cape
tall urchin
#

double ?

#

i keep gettintg those?

#

not just random resource ?

proud citrus
#

Does the "no money" chaos negative effect impact chamber rewards? Like will I just pick up the fat coin and get 0 COIN

#

Or is that just for pots and stuff

viscid notch
#

You’ll also get 0 for selling boons

tall urchin
#

in my experience from coin chest that does challenge weave of enemies and u have to beat them fast to get most of reward cuz it get less and less more time passes by

#

it gives 0 coin

trim creek
#

went from using spear not being able to even get to the boss of area 3 to switching to shield and almost clearing on my first try

tall urchin
#

i personally dont like charging weapons attack or anything if it is not super impactfull

#

i like dont ever get good boons for shield

tall urchin
#

sword or spear

#

or fists

#

or bow with hold to attack rapidly

#

can someone explain to me how doom debuff works ?

#

if i hit enemy enought times it triggers or it has cooldown

#

it can be somehow stacked

tulip fable
#

Yeah so base doom has a timer

#

You can get further boons that’s change how it works so there’s a boon which will make your doom stack for example

#

I can’t remember max stacks

#

If you don’t like charge weapons then if depends on you if you wnag fast spam with potential for chunky numbers fists

#

Spear gets pretty insane with some aspects of you like playing rang but don’t like the bow charges

#

And sword gets really funky later on too

#

I would say sword feels like it was the most variety later on but I find fists and the most fun

#

There’s aren’t really any bad weapons it’s more how you build them but that’s part of the learning process

#

Just run what you find fun

hushed cape
#

Is thunder punch good on the fists?

sweet brook
#

yes

hushed cape
#

I knew it

proud citrus
#

Is Sniper Shot or Point-Black Shot better

#

I'm super new and bad

#

Does the in-game speedrun timer tick on death defiance proc?

tall urchin
#

is there something really essencial i should know about ?

gray haven
#

empty dash = dash without attack or anything

#

That's like the most important thing the game doesn't directly tell you.

tall urchin
#

what is iframe

gray haven
#

Invincibility frames.

#

Well, in other words, Zag is invulnerable during empty dashes.

tall urchin
#

there isnt a keepsake for next boon to be hermes ?

tired canopy
#

no

fading scarab
#

I beat asphodel without dying! zaggrin

#

First time I’ve gotten this far without a death

tired canopy
#

Hermes is different. He also doesn't have any boons affect your attack, special, cast, dash or call that are like other gods. He also doesn't have any duo boons in conjunction with other gods.

thick dust
sweet brook
#

well

#

they're not like

#

direct modifiers

tired canopy
sweet brook
#

they do affect them

#

it's just different yeah

#

they dont take core slots like the others

tired canopy
#

What are some good hammers for the sword?

sweet brook
#

Double edge

#

And that's about it

#

The others are either neutral or harmful

uneven marten
#

||so uh i just completed the story but all gods hearts(the thing which increases when u give them necter) has stopped at a certain point and they wont take any necter, what to do next||

hushed cape
#

You need to sweeten the pot

#

Give them || ambrosia ||

uneven marten
#

i dont see any option tho

leaden whale
#

I didnt realize hermes epic extra dash gave you more dashes

#

I have double dash and +3 dashes now, for 5 consecutive dashes, and I have poseidon's dash

#

Do I get full iframes while I'm in those 5 consecutive dashes?

#

If so, I may not need to use my weapon anymore

tall urchin
#

is there a lifesteal keepsake ?

#

is it possible to get lifesteal on spear ?

sick lodge
#

do you get blood every time u kill the final boss?

viscid notch
viscid notch
viscid notch
sick lodge
#

if i have done the random limited time trade 2 times before will it still come back in future?

#

ok ty

tall urchin
#

that forge that swaps one hammer to 2

#

is it random or i can pick whitch to swap ?

viscid notch
#

Random

tall urchin
#

damn

#

i wa so close to ||beating hades||

#

i forgot to pick ||revive keepsake||

#

i got lifesteal on tha sword

#

i shall win now

#

right from very start i got hammer

#

is it luck ?

viscid notch
#

It is rng yea

#

Unfortunately it's not a very strong hammer

#

The health penalty is too much of an issue

#

And the lifesteal only applies to sword standing strikes not dash strikes

tall urchin
#

good thing found out about dast strike q dash strike strike combo

tired canopy
#

I'm having quite a bit of hard time using spear. I find spear does too little damage until I get merciful end, and by that time I lost too many death defiances that I couldn't beat hades.

#

Similar to rail, it seems rail does too little damage by itself and forced me to do builds that are based on on hit effects (hangover, zeus, or doom)

slate finch
#

spear can be very powerful but it's quite hammer-dependent

#

you definitely don't need me for a zag spear build

uneven marten
#

i can beat the last boss comfortably now

#

should i start using heats now

slate finch
#

if you want to

uneven marten
#

and if yes how many heats

slate finch
#

start with 1 and whenever you win (with that weapon) increase it by one

uneven marten
#

does each heat will give rewards?

slate finch
#

you only get rewards for ||heat in increments of 1|| and it's per-weapon so that's the most optimal way

uneven marten
#

then i can get say 32 titan blood from 1 wep aspect?

slate finch
#

you can get a maximum of 42 titan blood from each weapon (not aspect)

#

you get ||two per full game||, and 0 ||heat|| is included

#

the rewards cap off at ||20 heat||

uneven marten
#

ooo

#

so each heat till 20

#

i will get 2x titan blood each heat run?

gray haven
#

||Heat|| is spoilers in this channel. squirtnya

slate finch
#

seriously tho h*** being spoilers here is such a dumb rule
you can unlock it 5 seconds after booting up the game by just pressing the hell mode button

uneven marten
#

then uh

#

where can i discuss it

tall urchin
viscid notch
uneven marten
#

ty