h1-story-discussion

[quaint gale]

please just end this torture

[thin shale]

i thought the game made it obvious that the fates are the fury sisters?

[quaint gale]

yeah so did i

[brazen fractal]

Meg and her sisters are the furies, (if you've seen hercules) the fates are the three old crones who cut the life thread

[quaint gale]

i need a definite response because i just got the event of hypnos hiting on maegera

[brazen fractal]

Fates =/= Furies (not that hitting on siblings has stopped any of the greek gods before anyway)

[quaint gale]

so the fates are like the ones that give order

and the sisters punish?

[brazen fractal]

Basically yeah

[quaint gale]

ok yeah now i can live in a happy world

just hope not to find a goose

[ebon loom]

Nyx is not the the Furies mother but more their caretaker/guardian

[vestal pagoda]

Well in some sources nyx is their mother

[brazen fractal]

Depends where you look sometimes it's Nyx sometimes it's Uranus Castration blood

[open berry]

the erinyes and the moirai are completely different

the game does not say the furies are the fates

[royal wadi]

Hypnos barely even tries to hit on Meg lmao

[unreal mesa]

I thought their only interaction is when Hypnos gives Meg fighting advice

[rare steppe]

is there something i'm missing about ||the gift of song prophecy, or is it literally just playing the lyre a bunch then reporting to orpheus a few times?||

[toxic geyser]

Nope, that's it

[rare steppe]

oh

aight

[toxic geyser]

||It takes quite some time if you don't sit there for 20 minutes and spam the lyre though||

[rare steppe]

ah, good to know

[muted magnet]

i jsut have that one

and harsh conditions left

[unreal mesa]

||I tried to spam but ehh I heard you also need to talk to Orpheus a few times||

[dry lichen]

||I just played it till zag comments on it twice|| then did a run and repeat

[muted magnet]

man its just really annoying i cant give ||euryidce|| her last two ambrosia when ||orpheus|| is there

[low tapir]

orpheus would drink it all immediately

[thin shale]

yeah i had the same problem

but it's not half as annoying as not being able to unlock hypnos because thanatos has too much backlog data

[swift nymph]

same

Can't progress with thanatos

Therefore hypnos has no dialogue for like 20+ of my runs now

Still locked heart

[thin shale]

and than only spawns when you meet him in runs or something. almost any other storyline dialogue takes priority

i just gave up since i basically completed the game

[tough wedge]

im having trouble getting the keepsake from ||hades||

ive unlocked the rest of the affection gauge or whatever you call it but i cant seem to gift him

[low tapir]

there's no locked heart right?

[tough wedge]

yeah

[low tapir]

i think it's just a matter of hoping he'll let you give him the nectar the next time you show back up at the house

[tough wedge]

i guess so

its been like 6ish times?

[low tapir]

definitely worth maxing his hearts

he gives you something cool once you do that

[tough wedge]

yeah ik

[copper horizon]

Hi
I'm stuggling with Thanatos favor. I have maxed out hearts with Hypnos, Nyx, Achilles etc. and beat Than multiple times during his encounters and nothing. He don't talk with me after his encounter just vanishes, sometimes doesn't appear at House of Hades and if, don't have (!). Is there something I can do? or is it my bad luck?

[low tapir]

what happens if you clear the game for the tenth time with em4?

do you just like, get a free em4 clear or does he actually fight you

[tawny vigil]

||does Demeter know that Persephone has a child?|| Probably not right?

[low tapir]

after the epilogue she absolutely would know

[unreal mesa]

sigh I love Nyx but why did she have to ||fire Dusa? I needed one more heart for her. ||

[muted magnet]

HUH

THAT CAN HAPPEN?

ive ||finished dusa's hearts|| so its not really spoilers for me but i never got that dialogue??

[unreal mesa]

Yeah I mean ||Dusa was trying to avoid Zag in the latest runs and then Nyx explained that she's not doing her job or something like that and now she got fired. Oof||

[muted magnet]

i remember her being ||reprimaned, but not completely fired||

||EURYIDICE FINSALLY ALONE||

ONE MORE AMBROSIA

[unreal mesa]

Nicee

[cosmic shell]

I was curious how dialogue went if you won the first run (since you dont know ||persephone is your mom etc||) Im not good enough to beat it in the first run so i edited the file to give myself heck ton of hp. I opened a new save file from main menu and started a new run like that. But first i come up to cerberus zag says "||I need to find persephone, my mother||" is it a bug or devs didnt think of that case? or do i need to wipe all my save files to get it?

[neat crow]

To clarify, Zag does know that Persephone is his mother, but the player does not until a flashback a few runs after the game starts. The first run happens right after the first flashback

[normal kiln]

ohh

that makes way more sense

i always assumed he was just escaping for the lols to start with

[cosmic shell]

same tbh :D I assumed the flashback was just him snooping around between escapes

[normal kiln]

yeah same

[lavish crown]

how many times do I need to beat hades to get ||the true ending? I've already got it but my friend is doing it and I couldn't remember if you have to kill him 9 times or 10, because I know on the last one he just lets you pass||

||Couldn't remember if he lets you pass on the 10th or 11th time||

[grand idol]

||10th time||

[lavish crown]

||he lets you pass on the 10th encounter?||

[grand idol]

||yes he should let you pass on the 10th time||

[lavish crown]

||cool thanks, cause I told my friend cause he wasn't sure how many times he wanted to play, and I thought I messed up||

thanks!

[sterile saddle]

Hey guys am very very early in the game and i just talked to ||chaos|| for the first time and defeated megaera for the first time aswell
I have a question

In that run meg told me to ask nyx about ||chaos|| and i wanted to kill myself to ask her then talk to meg to see if she says something related

But the thing is i killed her on that run does that mean i accidentally skipped dialogue or was there nothing to begin with?

[brazen fractal]

If you're new there's probably a load of dialogue to get through first, Hades chooses dialogue on priority then RNG, so it will probs just work through the "more important" dialogue for a while and you'll get that convo eventually

[worn flower]

i don't think it's actually possible to skip dialogue except for some edge cases

just need to keep playing and talking to them

[hallow marsh]

yay https://i.imgur.com/vjMb1tq.png : )

[muted magnet]

||TWO RUNS INA ROW SHE WAS ALONE, BOND FORGED IM SO HAPPY||

[orchid jewel]

i like how it says

him and bouldy

[muted magnet]

he is his own charachter

even gives you sa buff if you give him nectar

[earnest phoenix]

Guys I want to know how many times it would take to get all of the dialogs fromm ||Zag's mom||||

[muted magnet]

its kinda just random

just gotta keep doing runs

bc sometimes chrachters will be talking to other chrachters and you dont get to have the 1 on 1 dialogues

[earnest phoenix]

oh ok

cause I have only reached her once

been playing for hundreds of hours before the 1.0 launch

[muted magnet]

oh you mean that.
10 or 11 times

[earnest phoenix]

ok

Shield should carry just fine :>

Ok so that's ||Zag's mom||, what about Hades ?

I was stuck on the "golden heart" before the launch

[muted magnet]

have to beat ||hades|| to get to ||perse|| so same answer

[earnest phoenix]

Huh

Guess I just didnt check him out after clearing

[muted magnet]

im confused but im not sure how to ask without spoiling if you dont know what im asking

[earnest phoenix]

You can just tag the whole sentence as spoilers :>

[muted magnet]

i more meant spoiling for you, bc im not sure if youre asking about one part or the other

no fault on you im just kinda dumb

[earnest phoenix]

Just asking how to have more hearts with Hades

[muted magnet]

oh ok

it requires getting to epilogue, aka ||beating him 10 times||

[earnest phoenix]

yikes

ok

thx

[haughty oriole]

what's the anime-like stuff at the right top of each keepsakes? and how do i make it consistent? i've got most of it except a few. my OCD can't handle it

[open berry]

they're stickers you get when you fully max out affinity with characters

anyone that doesn't have one is someone you haven't completed yet

[halcyon rock]

||Mmm so like are there any negative consequences to romancing everyone? Assuming the Arrow-In-Heart symbol indicates that. I already have Megara and Dusa maxed out and idk if something bad's gonna happen, lol, or if Zag's poly.||

[tough wedge]

nah

there are no negative consequences

||the other person youre romancing will actually make a comment on how than/meg inspired them to make a move||

[halcyon rock]

Ahahah that's great.

[tough wedge]

it is

[haughty oriole]

thank you

[quartz lagoon]

arent dionysus and zagreus kind of the same person in greek mythos

[open finch]

In some renditions ye

The game makes a reference to it

At one point

[quartz lagoon]

So what does romancing do? I've meg, dusa and than at 6 hearts and want to make sure I dont mess up anything

[open finch]

You can't mess anything up dw

[quartz lagoon]

So its really just personal preference?

[open finch]

You can romance all at the same time or one, it's okay with the characters

[quartz lagoon]

sick

[ebon loom]

It's important to note that Greek mythology differs from state to state

[somber estuary]

Different islands, different time periods, different cults

If you go back far enough, Zeus and Hades are the same person too.

[hallow marsh]

thats a funny pun https://i.imgur.com/BsKRAn9.png

[thin shale]

finally maxed that blasted mirror

[sharp mesa]

||i just completed the epilogue can someone explain how they are still lying to olympus didnt they tell them the whole truth?||

[muted magnet]

i simply chose to belive ||than, meg and zag are in a poly relationship|| 😌

[somber estuary]

Dionysus and Zagreus are the same in the Orphic myths, named for our boi Orpheus. Some scholars believe it was an attempt to legitimize the cult of Dionysus as something more than just wine and parties by associating him with Zagreus god of life and rebirth. The game explains this as all an elaborate troll by Dionysus amd Zagreus by tellinf fibs to Orpheus and later paying the price when Orpheus pretends they're 100% serious

[vestal thicket]

||My actual reaction when Zag walks into his bed chambers, finds Meg and Than in there and they get.. funky||

[muted magnet]

||they told them the truth that the needed to hear, if they knew the full story of "zeus handed perse off to hades as a going a way gift" there would have been actual war on olympus and the udnerworld||

its like ||perse says, its a concession||

also yeah

[somber estuary]

||Persephone's explanation replaces things that would piss off Demeter and Zeus with things that make it her and Hades' fault and they also still pretend it was Zagreus' idea to reunite everyone instead of using them to find his mom.||

[muted magnet]

dinonysus is also a VERY old god

like

preadating greece old

[sharp mesa]

ah okay i get it

thanks

[somber estuary]

Yeah but the culture at the time was against parties so the dionysus worshippers figured something else out

[muted magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5brAr51ip_k

[somber estuary]

Fight for your right to party and all that

[muted magnet]

fun video if you want a short info dump on him

he also gave women an excuse for naked parties int he woods at night

[vestal thicket]

Sounds like my kinda god

[muted magnet]

im massively entertined by orpheus's hymn to zagreus

where he goes into detail on this

also iirc

dinosysus iss...techincally....Pan

[somber estuary]

yeah, if you roll him singing it while you come back from the pool and dad is at his desk they can have a conversation where Hades makes fun of Zag.

[muted magnet]

https://i.imgur.com/iks646L.png

[unreal mesa]

Got to Asphodel and met Eurydice and Orpheus. They're singing "In the Blood" and I can't help but sit and listen to them

[whole sable]

#h1-story-discussion message

thought i'd drop this here

[thin shale]

woohoo last achievement checked

[barren tide]

What does she say about Poseidon

[halcyon rock]

I appear to have gotten ||Theseus and Asterius to be having a moment and Theseus's reaction is very 🍿 ||

[dire musk]

that whole chain is one of my 2 favorite story moments

the other one is where dionysus dumps all over theseus for abandoning ariadne and calls him a punk

it was then that i knew dionysus was the coolest god forever

[potent ridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/778304635424604180/799422798337933372/unknown.png?width=803&height=449

Now I got why they bother such buddies.

[green lance]

Ohhh no wonder they said it will start a war if zeus found Persephone went hell and have a child

Very little is known about the background of the Orphic Dionysus aside from the fact that he was regarded as the child of Zeus and Persephone.

[thin shale]

did persephone have any children with zeus in the game lore

[green lance]

wait isnt Persephone his daughter?

Ok now we are getting into the weird part of greek mythology

[dry lichen]

In some mythos she is his daughter. In others no

[turbid gate]

Ok, the absolute best part of the game is Post-Credits Spoiler (+ I guess 1 run after that) ||when Zagreus does the peace sign as he is being "taken by the styx"||

[orchid jewel]

dying in style

[rare steppe]

Weird question, but ||how do you unlock the treesome scene?||

||is it just random after having Meg and than maxed out?||

[orchid jewel]

what scene

?

[barren tide]

The treesome scene

[rare steppe]

||triple woohoo||

[orchid jewel]

yeah that's not a scene

[rare steppe]

||*THREEsome||

[orchid jewel]

there's no

uh

is that a scene

[rare steppe]

Is that not a thing

[orchid jewel]

i havent got to it

[rare steppe]

I’ve heard people talking about and idk if it’s bait or not

[barren tide]

Nah, didn't you get the Daphne romance option?

[orchid jewel]

i don't think that's a scene unless it's a super rare scene i havent really for yet

probably the just a joke or bait

[barren tide]

||on a more serious note, this is actually a real scene nocap||

[rare steppe]

Bruh

[orchid jewel]

|| there's a threesome scene?? ||

[vestal pagoda]

ye

its kinda random

[barren tide]

||Think you gotta get Meg and Than maxed by the time Meg would get in your room for le sexi tiem||

[orchid jewel]

ok wow its

ok

[vestal pagoda]

it took me until like 200+ hours

im sure yours'll be quicker tho

[orchid jewel]

i havent go that yet but i romanced both of them so i presume it's going to happen

[rare steppe]

I’ve already ||done the deed with Meg once||

Am I locked out of it now then or

[vestal pagoda]

nah

[orchid jewel]

probably not

ok this is real i was not aware

[neat crow]

The romance scenes are scripted to not be common, so if you haven't seen any of them yet then it's just a matter of doing more runs

[thin shale]

yeah i got the meg event twice

[rare steppe]

Oh, cool

[barren tide]

So, what exactly triggers the dialogue where Zag figures out who hired Skelly? I usually don't see him having anything to say

But I've talked to everyone who Zag thinks may have hired him, I think

I know it's on YT but I wanna see it myself

[open berry]

talk to ||hermes with the tooth equipped||, you should start seeing more hints about it

[somber estuary]

Uh you def gotta trigger the dialogue with Skelly where he first asks and then trigger the dialogues with like everyone else where Zag asks if they know skelly and then I thiiink you gotta bring the tooth to Hermes and get him to comment on it then go back to skelly and force the truth from him.

[barren tide]

Bah, I don't wanna use the damn tooh, I'm watching the YT upload

I need to crack down on making elaborate theories

[thin shale]

i thought the gag about skelly was that everything about him is a secret

[upbeat willow]

skelly does have an employer ^_^

[thin shale]

please don't make me grind though my complete story -_-

[barren tide]

No there's, like, actual lore there

And having spoiled it for myself this just got juicy as hell, IT'S THEORY TIME BAYBEEEE

[thin shale]

i mean i figured his identity with asterius's help

[barren tide]

His employer? What the hell does Asterius say about him?

[thin shale]

no, just his identity

confirms the name skelly gives you

but nothing about the employer

[barren tide]

Oh yeah, that

Well as said a ways up, either find it on YT or speak to Hermes with the tooth

[thin shale]

alright i'll give it a try. not any more 😄

[somber estuary]

Hmmm I will say no more than this: if you wanna figure it out without going through all the dialogues, ask ||Rib||.

[prisma bridge]

woah

damn

that's cool

[thin shale]

ok so i talked to hermes, all he said was that carrying a tooth was strange and that's it

[barren tide]

That may be it, although there may be one more line where Zag asks him about Skelly

[open berry]

theres more to the story

its just that you need to do certain things, like carrying the tooth, to kickstart it

[covert sun]

||Well, I beat the game. I actually almost cried while playing a game for the first time, though I did not. But I sure did feel a lot of emotion in the final story runs.||

[prisma bridge]

same dude

[neat crow]

Congrats!

When you say beat do you mean credits? Or epilogue?

[jagged wraith]

||I assume the roadblock in the Olympians social ranks is there cause of what Persephone is working on||

||Except Artemis for some reason||

[dry ore]

||yes and no, reaching a certain amount of bonds with the god is part of the epilogue requirement but each god's favor is also their own separate thing||

[quartz lagoon]

||the requirements are on the wiki||

||they are very helpful cuz theres no way to know them by playing the game as far as i know||

[jagged wraith]

||I've reached the roadblock with Dionysus, Hermes and Poseidon. I wasn't sure if that was still just... Stuff I had to wait for if I could keep working on them||

[dry ore]

bond requirement: ||reach 7/8 hearts (max) with 6 gods, excludes Demeter and Chaos||

[jagged wraith]

||Is that for the epilogue?||

[dry ore]

yep

[jagged wraith]

Gotcha

Here I thought the former of those two exclusions would be necessary

[dry ore]

||Demeter's favor is actually after epilogue||

[jagged wraith]

||Convenient||

[dry ore]

well it make sense story wise

[bleak shoal]

||why are we using spoilers if that's a spoiler-free channel?||

[jagged wraith]

I- ...I'm not sure

[dry ore]

those are v1.0 endgame content

[bleak shoal]

ik

the channel is called #h1-story-discussion

[vestal pagoda]

||spoiler||

[jagged wraith]

There's a name I can vibe with

[vestal pagoda]

eyy if you know you know

[jagged wraith]

Is there a way to track how many fish you've caught?

[bleak shoal]

wish poseidon had more useful boons
including duo ones

[jagged wraith]

Poseidon has some...funky boons. I never really want them but sometimes they come in handy

[bleak shoal]

athena + poseidon duo boon is cringe

[jagged wraith]

Haven't encountered that one

[bleak shoal]

don't

[jagged wraith]

Well I plan on completing the prophecies

Currently the goal is getting Dionysus' Legendary boon

But that's a pain in the butt

[bleak shoal]

oops sorry i meant dionysus

[jagged wraith]

The Poseidon + Dionysus one?

[rare steppe]

It’s good tho

If you get it early

[bleak shoal]

oh im dumb i messed up again

i meant dionysus + athena
poseidon's boons are still meh

[rare steppe]

What does that one do again?

[bleak shoal]

your foes' ranged-attack projectiles are 50% slower

[rare steppe]

Oh right

[bleak shoal]

that's it

a very epic boon

[jagged wraith]

Calculated Risk

Is the name

[rare steppe]

Not the worst, but not great either

[jagged wraith]

I did get it once

I'm curious

I assume most players here are on PC/Steam?

[dry ore]

yeah the game launched on PC first

only came to Switch two years after early access

[jagged wraith]

I'm quite late to the party then

I mentioned this earlier but I am very curious. Has anyone noticed that the contrast for Aphrodite's profile seems higher on the switch than on Steam?

[dry ore]

dont be

for early access games, the biggest audience usually are in fact post full launch

[fervent wolf]

i dont know if this is the appropriate channel to ask, but how many times do i have to interact with the lyre to get the prophecy?

[low tapir]

i think you just need to keep playing it until it starts playing strings of notes and then report back to orpheus

[fervent wolf]

i think i have interacted with him twice about it, though i still havent gotten it

oh well, just keep strumming it i guess

[low tapir]

at that point you just have to keep playing it

[fervent wolf]

you mean i have to practice to get good at something? surely you jest.

thanks for answering, by the way

[swift nymph]

Just play the lyre until zagreus says something

Then do a run

Then repeat

Don't forget to talk to orpheus after every run

[fervent wolf]

there's so much backlog of dialogue for him to say for me haha

one of my gripes with this game is not being able to talk more between runs to get through storylines quicker

however i do understand why it was designed this way

[royal wadi]

wondering what business thanatos has with zag, since hes supposed to take care of peaceful normal death, while zag never dies peacefully

[low tapir]

i mean it's not like thanatos is the one handling zag's deaths is he?

[muted magnet]

thanatos only handles certain deaths

[royal wadi]

i read somewhere that DDs are thanatos deliberately going against what hes supposed to do bc he cares about zag

[tough wedge]

whoops my bf died time to bring him back to life

[royal wadi]

or was that a theory

[tough wedge]

dds revivals are marked with the hades symbol so probably not

[muted magnet]

than even talks about how he wasnt the one to bring achilles in

[royal wadi]

are DDs even explained in any way lore wise

or is it just a game mechanic i shouldn't overthink

[muted magnet]

i know i saw somethin about it the othery day

brb searching

[tough wedge]

how is it even possible to get more duo boons from the mirror

is nyx influencing the olympians herself or something

[royal wadi]

nyx influencing the rng

thats my best guess

[swift nymph]

^

[tough wedge]

because duos come from olympian interactions

[muted magnet]

https://twitter.com/crowtective/status/1349326064984604674/photo/1

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[tough wedge]

where is that from

[swift nymph]

At this point i think I'm going to the epilogue without getting thanatos' companion

[royal wadi]

tv tropes

i guess tv tropes isnt accurate all the time

[swift nymph]

It's kinda frustrating lmao

So much backlog

[royal wadi]

thanatos 🤝 hypnos
backlog

[muted magnet]

https://hades-dialogue.tumblr.com/post/190749630127/thanatos-dialogue-reaction-to-death-defiance

[swift nymph]

Still can't give him ambrosia

[royal wadi]

I'm pretty sure those are his lines if you DD during his encounter

[muted magnet]

yes

[vestal pagoda]

still its nice to think that than cares about you so much he'll save you from death 3 times

[swift nymph]

I beat his ass like a bunch of times and still locked heart rip

[muted magnet]

but it does imply that it means hes preventing the death

[swift nymph]

Also chaos won't give me the waking phrase for the hidden aspect

[vestal pagoda]

purely rng

[royal wadi]

doesn't ||hades|| also do DD

[swift nymph]

Yea

[muted magnet]

just gotta keep going at it

[vestal pagoda]

talk to them until you do

[royal wadi]

does than also love ||hades|| enough to save him from death

[tough wedge]

well hes not dead is he

[swift nymph]

Yeah i know. I'm just grinding titan bloods

[vestal pagoda]

than probably has to do it or he'll be fired

[royal wadi]

what happens if he's fired

[tough wedge]

no one dies

[royal wadi]

do mortals just stop dying of old age

[muted magnet]

man

[tough wedge]

something something thanatos chained up from sisyphus

[muted magnet]

do i have a story for you

[tough wedge]

yeah ppl couldnt die from old age

[muted magnet]

what marshimi said

[royal wadi]

that was wack

[muted magnet]

i wil now once again link an osp video

[royal wadi]

i watched that one recently its ok lol

[muted magnet]

in case anyone was wodneirng why than hates sisiphyus so much https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsaFUEq5UEo

[royal wadi]

theres also another story where heracles yeets thanatos to save someone else's life

[muted magnet]

man you know who i wish we had gotten

tantalus

[low tapir]

hypothetically if i were to earn the favor of the three fates would i just get nothing but epic boons and constantly get duos

[vestal pagoda]

did someone say thanatos chained up?

[royal wadi]

https://youtu.be/9QcYo9gtlb8

lmao, look at thanatos

beefy arms

[tough wedge]

like jail chains not kinky chains

[vestal pagoda]

why not both

[royal wadi]

also thanatos was in a box

[muted magnet]

the fates are very much "this is how it is meant to be" so you probably wouldnt be able to curry thier favor

[tough wedge]

fats

[royal wadi]

the fats

[vestal pagoda]

love me the fats

[tough wedge]

the three fats
the chungus and his two sisters

[muted magnet]

im-

[tough wedge]

zag would have a tough time pardoning him lol

[low tapir]

the three farts

[muted magnet]

trueweeeee

but i dont wish for that

he actually deserved his fate

[tough wedge]

zag collecting poms just to spite him

[muted magnet]

(so did sisiphyus, but tantalus ltierally broke one fot he big three ruels of ancient greece)

that being DONT KILL FAMILY

oh wait sis did too, by murdering his guests

[muted magnet]

or drinking from fountains right in front of him

[tough wedge]

he would be chained up in a fountain chamber just to watch everyone else drinking from it

[muted magnet]

imagine if tantalus was just in ||the garden||

[tough wedge]

well but like

shades dont even need to eat anyways

[low tapir]

if eating a pom seed means you can't stay out of hell for at least one month is that why zagreus can't leave hell for more than like 2 seconds?

[tough wedge]

well that only applied if you were born of the overworld

[muted magnet]

zag's is more "this is fate ordained, that no one of the underwold may remain onthe surface"

[tough wedge]

plus i think its of any food of the underworld in general

not just poms

[muted magnet]

looks at theseus and his buddy

[tough wedge]

than mentions that even though he is permitted travel between the 2 realms he feels sick if he stays too long

[muted magnet]

remember whne those two thought itd be a great idea to go up to hades and say "im gonna marry your wife"

[tough wedge]

oh frick no i dont need theseus as a stepdad

[royal wadi]

cant believe hades is a faerie

you eat food from his realm

you stay forever

[muted magnet]

i forget the other guys name but it was heracles that freed theseus
but when he went for hte other guy

the entire underworld shook

[royal wadi]

pirithous

[muted magnet]

so he took that as a sing of "ok youre staying here bye"

yeah

he was the oen that wanted to marry persephone

so you can imaigne why hades might wanna keep him tehre

[tough wedge]

aside from marrying a literal god imagine what an enormous ego you would need to have to marry hades wife of all things

[royal wadi]

I really wanna know what would happen if the other underworld denizens visited the surface

[tough wedge]

poof

[royal wadi]

do they also get uncomfortable like thanatos

[tough wedge]

vanish probably

[muted magnet]

it was a dude bro hero friend of theseus, you dot he math

[low tapir]

imagine trying to get hades' girl

the wife of hades

[muted magnet]

imagine trying to break up the literaly healthiest olympian marriage

[royal wadi]

imagine trying to get on hades's bad side

couldn't be me

/s

[muted magnet]

stares at hephaetus/aphro, hera/zeus

[tough wedge]

didnt persephone resent hades in the myths lol

[low tapir]

the woman that is adored and cared for by the god of the dead, who can sentence impure souls to the worst punishments imaginable

and expecting a good outcome

[muted magnet]

it depends on the myth

[vestal pagoda]

I think persephone grew to love hades

[muted magnet]

but in like almost every myth

[low tapir]

zeus/literally anyone

[muted magnet]

hades is a genuninely loving hubdand to her

[royal wadi]

some myths have persephone literally run away from home to be with him

[low tapir]

hades is a good husband

[vestal pagoda]

I'm pretty sure mostly because he was actually responsible and didn't run around impregnating everything in sight

[muted magnet]

afaik persephone was hades only mate

[royal wadi]

and he has a dog

[vestal pagoda]

No other olympian had a pet

Well maybe artemis

[muted magnet]

weeellll

hera

argus

[royal wadi]

hades has a dog. very good boy

[tough wedge]

how to be an olympian god
step one
do everyone

[vestal pagoda]

Hera WeirdChamp

[tough wedge]

oh yeah and a second step of being immortal but

[muted magnet]

rreal talk the absolute funniest thing to me are aphro duo boons with artemis or athena

bc those are literally 2 of the 3 beings that aphro has ZERO control over

[royal wadi]

mess around and cause unexplained phenomena until the olympians recognize you as a special being and accept you as one of their own

the dionysus method

[muted magnet]

or te hermes methos

[low tapir]

plot twist aphro is bi

[muted magnet]

no no

[vestal pagoda]

Pretty sure aphro would be bi

Or pan actually

[tough wedge]

all i gotta do is slaughter a cow as an infant nice

[low tapir]

yeah definitely pan

[royal wadi]

how to be hermes:

[low tapir]

i wonder how she feels about maps

[royal wadi]

commit property theft at age 0 days

[muted magnet]

i cant thingk of any myth that backs up aphro being anytthing but straight

[royal wadi]

wasnt apollo the patron god of gays

[muted magnet]

but that might be bc greek myths didnt might boys being gay
but GIRRRRLLLS?

[royal wadi]

and dionysus of trans, intersex, and nonbinary folk

[vestal pagoda]

Sappho was a person

[tough wedge]

aphrodite probably supports any kind of love no matter how immoral

[vestal pagoda]

She is the goddess of love after all

[royal wadi]

aphro supporting my terrible one sided love for an unromanceable video game character

[muted magnet]

aphro will literally ruin someones life bc she thinks they look good together

glares at helen of troy

[low tapir]

if she can make people love certain people certainly she can do the opposite???

[muted magnet]

she cant really do that on her own

she leaves that to her son

Eros

[royal wadi]

doesnt eros/cupid have an arrow that makes you hate people

[muted magnet]

yes, iron or copper i think

OH MY GOD

CAN YOU IMAGHINE

[vestal pagoda]

Wouldn't that just kill you

[muted magnet]

IF WE GOT EROS

AND PSYCHE

AS A sidequest

[tough wedge]

straight up copper in your bloodstream

[low tapir]

what would eros' curse do

[royal wadi]

imagine if eros was in the game and he sometimes answered calls for aphro.......

[tough wedge]

charmed

[vestal pagoda]

In that story perse and aphro are both completely terrible

Well perse not as terrible as aphro

[low tapir]

but... aphro already does that

[muted magnet]

fun fact eros is a being even zeus fears

[royal wadi]

reverse charmed

[tough wedge]

just rework the call i guess

[royal wadi]

enemy hates you so much they avoid you

[muted magnet]

bc who better than zeus is swayed by random bouts of LOVE

[vestal pagoda]

Yeah cause eros can shoot zeus so that he actually falls in love with hera instead of anyone elsd

[low tapir]

they get so pissed they actively avoid you

[vestal pagoda]

Which would probably be good tbh

[royal wadi]

"disgusted" or "repulsed" sounds better than reverse charmed

[muted magnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLo1jZA1iVw

[tough wedge]

healthy relationship goals

[vestal pagoda]

People are already repulsed by me so it wouldn't be any different

[tough wedge]

meirl

[royal wadi]

gosh did eros shoot me with the lead arrow when i saw thesues

lmao

[muted magnet]

down bad

[low tapir]

nah bro he shot theseus not you

[muted magnet]

you ever think about how the only reason heracles became a hero and then god is bc hera decided to breastfed him and he bit her boob

[vestal pagoda]

Tbh I used to hate theseus a lot but now I just don't care anymore lol

[muted magnet]

nah thesues is actual garabge

[royal wadi]

i dont really hate him it was just a joke

[low tapir]

he what 😳

[vestal pagoda]

I just tune him out cause I absolutely wreck his stuff everytime

His insults are nothing to me

Ye he bit her boob when she was breastfeeding him

[royal wadi]

i cant help but laugh when he tries to insult you

PUSTULE

[muted magnet]

and through that boob nom, he got godly power

[vestal pagoda]

And the breast milk that flew out apparently created the milky way

[muted magnet]

yknow whats really funny

[royal wadi]

dlc that replaces pom of power with boob of power

[muted magnet]

i-

[low tapir]

hear me out

[muted magnet]

thats ony one of two boob related origin stories i know

[vestal pagoda]

Would probably make it NSFW lol

[low tapir]

boob poms

[muted magnet]

the other is ....krishnu? i think from hindu mythology

[vestal pagoda]

And besides what would zagreus do with the boob

Eat it? Lmao

[royal wadi]

Crunch

[vestal pagoda]

What kinda boob is crunchy my man

[low tapir]

boobs with armor over them?

[royal wadi]

okay this is going to weird places

lets uh change the subject

hestia with a gun

yes

[low tapir]

lucifer

with a laser gun

[vestal pagoda]

Hestia packing that heat bro

[muted magnet]

man

[low tapir]

ok but lucifer with a gun

[royal wadi]

hestia using a gun to cook

[muted magnet]

i hate hestias aspect

lmfao

[vestal pagoda]

Pull up on you do a drive by

[royal wadi]

i need the lucifer aspect so i can combine it with poseidon attack and fight my way out of hell with a super soaker

[vestal pagoda]

You got beef with her? She gon light you up boi

[muted magnet]

ok hear me out

[royal wadi]

okay but my friend once joked that hestia would give zag a frying pan as a weapon and thats all i can think about

[muted magnet]

what if intead of daedulus hammeras

it was boons of hephaestus

[low tapir]

imagine if poseidon used a sword in most media today

[muted magnet]

why ue sword

when fork

[vestal pagoda]

Hestia just gives zag a chefs knife

[low tapir]

you just made daedalus sad what is wrong with you

[muted magnet]

daedulus was lready sad

he saw his son burn and drown

[royal wadi]

i have a need for frying pan zag

if the dead cells guy can frying pan

[vestal pagoda]

Daedalus' life is just sad

[low tapir]

you made him sad(der)

[royal wadi]

zag should have one too

[muted magnet]

i forget what hestia is evnt he goddess of

[royal wadi]

hearth and home

[vestal pagoda]

I mean daedalus was also a bit of a jerk

[muted magnet]

i only remember shes one of the few celebic gods

[vestal pagoda]

He did kill his nephew because he was better than him

[royal wadi]

speaking of mythology

i cant get over how mythological thanatos was characterized as someone who hates literally everybody

people hated him and he hated them too

[vestal pagoda]

Emo death boi

[royal wadi]

he also hated the gods bc they were immortal and impervious to his power

im just a bit sad they didnt include this bit of characterization

would be funny to hear him rant about how much he hates everything to comical levels

[vestal pagoda]

They probably omitted so that he'd seem more friendly

[muted magnet]

real talk

how many children does nyx have

[vestal pagoda]

People would probably be kinda put off a bit

Yes

[royal wadi]

nah it could just be written off as a joke

[muted magnet]

https://i.imgur.com/xG12K9v.png

[royal wadi]

nyx asexually reproduce

[muted magnet]

well not really, she did all that with one entity or by herself

[vestal pagoda]

Yeah they just pop out of nyx

[oblique nebula]

quick question about heat. do i have to clear a run on a particular heat before i can get the rewards for the next heat?

[vestal pagoda]

Yes

[oblique nebula]

oh. so im stuck with getting darkness until i clear?

[low tapir]

weird how nyx happened to give birth to the three fates, whose ability is quite literally -- to control and manipulate her every single move, not unlike a puppet

[vestal pagoda]

Yep

[oblique nebula]

got it.

the game is surprisingly unclear about a few of these things

thx

[muted magnet]

the fates ordained their own birth

[low tapir]

you can check if you have gotten all of the bounties or not before moving to the next heat level

[muted magnet]

[oblique nebula]

yeah its confusing because you can get 3/4 bounties for heat 0

[low tapir]

do the fates also like pretty much control chaos

[oblique nebula]

but also get bounties for heat 1

it just wont let you go to heat 2

[muted magnet]

no, the fates dont actualy control anything, they just

know

afaik

[oblique nebula]

without escaping on heat 1

[muted magnet]

if thats wrong someone correct me

the funniest part of eros/psyche myth is that the reason the discourse between them happened

is becasue, "the oil from psyche's lamp thought eros was so beautfil ut jumped onto eros"

[frozen jolt]

just as a reminder, if you want to discuss greek mythology unrelated to hades please do so in #off-topic-discussion

[muted magnet]

gotcha,

[royal wadi]

okie

[quartz lagoon]

So I just finished the epilogue

And I dont understand it completely I think

||what exactly was the plan and how come theyre still lying to olympus? What are they lying about?||

[bleak shoal]

||the plan was to reveal persephone's story and somehow don't anger the gods
they are lying about zagreus's "mission"
olympians still think it's leaving underworld||

[open finch]

Actually ||the Olympians know he isn't trying to leave the Underworld anymore, they agreed that it's best that the reputation of the Underworld is important and so Zagreus' job in pointing out security weaknesses is important||

[quartz lagoon]

||what was the conversation with persephone after the part about then?||

||they said they were still lying to olympus, yet you say they are not?||

[open finch]

They kept some details out of their story, hence the lying to Olympus

And rehashed some parts I can't remember off the top of my head

[quartz lagoon]

||they said that they couldnt leave the underworld because they ate pomegranates||

||i do not understand why they said that though||

[prime mulch]

since demeter want her to stay upstairs permanently

[quartz lagoon]

ahh alright

that makes sense

[cinder gulch]

||She lied. It was an excuse she gave so that she wouldn't have to stay in Olympus forever||

[abstract sedge]

why is ||demeter|| pissed at the mortals

[prisma bridge]

Her daughter missing

[quaint gale]

i havent finished the game

||but its because Zeus gave pespherone to hades, and demeter knows that zeus loves his creation, so he took them out on them||

[abstract sedge]

[thin shale]

well that is not true in the game's lore

[quaint gale]

wait really

[abstract sedge]

doesnt persephone spend 6 months wiht hades and 6 months with demeter?

[quaint gale]

hey hey

spoiler

[thin shale]

demeter has no idea where her daughter is

how can she blame zeus?

[abstract sedge]

but in mythology

[quaint gale]

||this is from the mythology||

||hades got phesperone because zeus helped him kidnap her in the greek myth||

[abstract sedge]

||but persephone never left the underworld on her own iirc||

||in the manner she did in the game at least||

[cinder gulch]

||Demeter is mad in the game because her daughter is missing, and she faults her daughter's disappearance on the mortals, because she can't imagine anyone else would be responsible.||

||Also, she just has ill feelings towards mortals because they have a tendency to die, like Persephone's father did.||

[quaint gale]

||This belief is based from the fact that when Phespherone dissappeared the first time, she faulted the people she was with||

[cinder gulch]

||Really, she just feels bad, and wants other people to feel bad.||

||She's very sunny that way.||

[quartz lagoon]

I completed the epilogue and Zeus still wont offer his favor to me

[barren tide]

Is favor just the "Bond forged" icon?

Or is it a buff

and that's funny cuz he sure gives out his "favor" quite liberally

[tough wedge]

favor unlocks rest of the bond bar

completing all the hearts unlocks bond forged

bond forged in itself doesnt give any rewards other than feeling good

[hollow mortar]

And fun stickers!

[tough wedge]

supergiant sticker merch when pls

charon :3

dusa :3

the little faces

so cute

[orchid jewel]

orpheus

[edgy phoenix]

achillesdad. thats all

he's the weird dad who jogs everywhere and pat is the reasonable dad who drives you places with his car

[low tapir]

so since demeter is pissed because persephone went bye-bye (sort of not really) then how come she's still pissed after meeting persephone face-to-face in the feast and then occasionally at olympus after that

[cinder gulch]

she mentions that her whole winter thing was a little out of hand and she'll try to pull it back, but she'll leave the area in front of the temple of styx cold as a reminder

[hallow robin]

Anybody wanna explain how Dusa got fired but not hypnos?

[cinder gulch]

hypnos is family. dusa is not.

[hallow robin]

so is zagreus

so, that isn't really a factor

[cinder gulch]

also hades might secretly put up with hypnos because he's amusing

if Achilles is to be believed

[thin shale]

compare the effort dusa and zag put in their work

[hallow robin]

i mean, compare dusa and hypnos, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense eh?

[thin shale]

zagreus in the office is actually a very accurate representation of my workplace

hypnos is at least trying

he makes improvements overall

so being family helps

[hallow robin]

i haven't seen that yet

he seems to be asleep most of the time

but i havent unlocked the gold lock thing yet so maybe that'll change

[thin shale]

how else would he hold the title of god of sleep?

that gold lock is a pain to unlock

[hallow robin]

can you hint me on how?

[thin shale]

you need to go through a long backlog of thanatos dialogues

[hallow robin]

oh ok

wait...backlog?

[thin shale]

and to spawn thanatos in the house you have to meet him on your runs

there are a lot of scripted dialogues with thanatos, and because he appears rarely, you take a long time to go through them all

[hallow robin]

does Hypnos have a companion?

[thin shale]

mort might help summon him more but i haven't seen any official confirmation on that

no, hypnos doesn't have a companion

only fighting characters do actually

[hallow robin]

fighting characters?

pretty sure dusa and sisophys dont fight

[thin shale]

meg, than, bouldy, skelly, achilles and dusa

well she's a gorgon so she does gorgon stuff

[hallow robin]

i mean, she stated once that she acts very differently from her distant relatives

[thin shale]

speaking of gorgons, why are all the gorgons in hell body-less

not in battle

she is literally coded the same

[hallow robin]

I should also clarify, i brought up that thing about dusa being fired because IMO dusa is best girl 😦

[cinder gulch]

they sprang from her blood, and apparently, they did so sans body

she is!

[hallow robin]

I was like "Damn it Nyx"

[thin shale]

she is ok, but a bit annoying too

[cinder gulch]

nyx has some weird notions when it comes to dusa

[thin shale]

nyx idn't that bad, one of the reason she let her go was because she was overworking herself

[hallow robin]

I like Nyx, she's good, but i think that decision felt slightly off

[thin shale]

but when she lashed at zagreus i was scared

[cinder gulch]

well, farsighted of her to want to sidestep issues of overwork and burnout

but zag said it himself

no warning? no instruction or advice?

not terribly fair.

[hallow robin]

yeh i thought so too

i thought i missed a line of dialogue or two, but i don't recall dusa being warned

[thin shale]

her only warning was about talking to zagreus which was even more weird than her getting fired

[hallow robin]

that doesn't count, in fact that confidant made her leaving less bad

[thin shale]

best girl in my view is meg though, she's really professional but has a soft side too

[hallow robin]

Meg is a good character, but I prefer dusa for best girl

[thin shale]

and who's best boy?

[hallow robin]

Ceberus, obviously

[thin shale]

😄

[hallow robin]

It's a tie between Ceberus and Bouldy

[thin shale]

Zag and Skelly are my two favorites, and it's funny that they are voiced by the same guy

[hallow robin]

they are? that's good range

Ok but for real those 2 are probably also my favourite

[thin shale]

yeah voiced by the music composer/director so props to the guy

[tough wedge]

chad bouldy vs virgin cerberus
bouldy: believes in you
gives you love and money
big strong emotional presence
actually important in plot
cerb: blocks your way

jk cerb is the best too

[hallow robin]

Guys

[thin shale]

cerb: wants satyr sack

[hallow robin]

best boi is actually Narrator

He was the legit cause of the whole game

What i meant was, he was a key component to driving Zagreus to leave the house

Allowing us to experience this modern masterpiece

[thin shale]

oh yeah and the exchanges between the narrator and zagreus are the best

it's a shame the narrator slowly fades out as yoou progress

[hallow robin]

I think it's genius that Zagreus and Ceberus can communicate with the narrator as the middleman, im not sure if they actually do that but the fact that they probably can i find quite interesting

[thin shale]

also fun fact, the narrator is one of the many roles of the guy that also voiced Lord Hades / Poseidon / Achilles / Charon / Asterius

[hallow robin]

I only know that Hades and Poseidon are voiced by the same guy

those other 3 i did not know

Also, Hades kinda thicc ngl

[thin shale]

i found all the cast on imdb cause i think the voice cast makes for at least a third of why this game is great

i wonder why hades is so gigantic, and if zagreus will ever grow to that size

[hallow robin]

that was a pun...wasn't it...

[thin shale]

where is the pun lol

[hallow robin]

Hades, Super Giant Games

[thin shale]

aaah ok

totally by accident

hades, zeus and chiron are the only gigantic gods we see in game, all the others are same size as zagreus

we don't see zeus really but we see a picture of him

[hallow robin]

I haven't gotten there yet

[thin shale]

but maybe the size is just to make hades seem intimidating

[hallow robin]

from what I can tell no character model is bigger than Hades other than Ceberus

[thin shale]

not sure if charon is taller or not, probably not

[hallow robin]

doesn't look like it

[versed dagger]

Just beat the game for the first time

Damn

[atomic forge]

I would love too see Heracles as a miniboss in the Elysium

Or apollo and hephaistos as boons

[tough wedge]

chiron in-game?

huh

[ebon loom]

I expect Artemis and Apollo would have a loving brother-sister convo which would be a contrast from the other duo boon convos with artemis

[orchid jewel]

really

you realise what apollo did in mythology right

[prisma bridge]

I don't think

Artemis

and Apollo

have a healthy relationship

[orchid jewel]

yeah

i dont think they

least of all would have a friendly conversation about thins

[thin shale]

charon*

[clever ruin]

Isn't Lord Hades the narrator

I got that impression kinda

[stark violet]

No

[open berry]

narrator is implied to be ||potentially homer||

[orchid jewel]

how can you tell ||homer||

i got the bust but couldnt tell anything solid

oh

i mean i guess

akll the busts of him do look exaclty like it

[open berry]

there's some additional text that comes up if you interact with it a lot too

[storm river]

I think the narrator gets all complimentary of the bust

[somber estuary]

Narrator does a lot of voices for the game, very good range. Homer is the likely candidate buuuut... they also voice Charon. I think it would be funny if Charon could speak plainly and just doesn't do it around us.

[barren tide]

||The bust's flavor text mentions that it depicts some famous poet, and Homer was known as the "blind poet."||

[open berry]

please interact with the bust lmao

the way zag speaks to it ||says he knows the bust is the narrator. he tells it things like "say something old man" and eventually the narrator will respond "the vastly irritating prince gets no response"||

[barren tide]

This isn't even the most important question tho

||How can Zag hear/speak to Homer? Can anyone else hear him? Does Homer control the flow of the story; in which case, the gods may know they're just characters in a myth?||

[open berry]

it's not really an answer but greg had a silly comment about it #ask-supergiant message

[barren tide]

HMMMMGH, THEORY FUEEEEELLLLL

[tight cave]

Isn't demeter actually hades sister

[barren tide]

Originally, yes

She's either lying in-game for some reason or SG just rewrote the canon

[tight cave]

Hm, makes sense

[open berry]

foster sister in hades canon. hera, hestia and demeter do not have the same parents as hades, zeus and poseidon

[pallid ice]

heya, i have wanted to do skelly quest can someone explain to me what this means: ||He won't give you the quest until you've unlocked 4 non-Zagreus aspects of weapons.||

[open berry]

zagreus aspects are a weapon's default form

[pallid ice]

aha so i need to unlock 4 of non-zagreus to open quest?

[tough wedge]

yup

[ember stone]

About the epilogue: I can’t remember but was ||Theseus at the banquet when all the gods came together?
I honestly don’t remember, Zag makes comments how Alecto and Tisiphone couldn’t attend the party, but idk about Theseus.||

[whole sable]

@barren tide not sure what it says about poseidon, I personally haven't seen these voicelines

[barren tide]

He was not

[whole sable]

what a coincidence

[barren tide]

That was directed at Tac lmao

[whole sable]

i figured

[barren tide]

Then what's the coincidence

[abstract sedge]

||hol up sisyphus is the one who gives you the plushie not bouldy||??

[prisma bridge]

Yea.

[abstract sedge]

i demand my juice back

[whole sable]

that you happened to be typing in the channel the moment i pinged you?

🤔

[half eagle]

I dont really want any hard spoilers for the epilogue, ||but does who I invite to the party change the ending at all, I really want to invite Artemis but her favor just isnt popping up||

[red bough]

You have to bring all of them anyway

It’s unrelated to favor

[half eagle]

Is there any difference in dialogue at all? I know in their last game, they had modular endings based on who you freed

[red bough]

Nope

[half eagle]

Thats a relief, thanks

[vestal pagoda]

wait who says that again

i forgot

[upbeat willow]

meg iirc

it could have been either, but more fitting for ||the tsundere than||

[grand idol]

thats ||than||

[open berry]

its ||than||

i know that dialogue at a glance lmao

[grand idol]

same lmao

[tough wedge]

are we just friends or lovers who have never expressed their feelings like ever

[warm summit]

yes

[tough wedge]

||having trouble befriending hades||

havent exhausted his dialogue pool yet though

[warm summit]

not sure if that benefits from winning, or just keep talking to him

[swift nymph]

How do bond with poseidon?

[rare steppe]

Just talk to him a bunch until the heart unlocks

It may have something to do with catching a lot of fish also, but I’m not too sure about that

[open berry]

you need to have a fish caught on the run prior to speaking with him to have a chance of the dialogue popping up

[obsidian jay]

has there ever been 1 time where hades actually accepted a request of one of the shades when he says "alright, i'll here your cases" or smth along the lines of that

[lunar hazel]

I've been trying to get artemis bond but I'm still at the locked heart

any tips to get it?

[somber estuary]

I don't know if it's required but I didn't get hers until I had already gotten her commentaries on Zag using a bow and unlocking Rama and also her commentary on killing king vermin but I'm pretty sure it's more related just to exhausting her conversation options?

[lunar hazel]

I've seen that to keep going until she mentions callisto and she's mentioned her twice so I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong so I'll just keep up

[open berry]

the unlock dialogue requires about... 6 or 7 different pieces about callisto

so essentially just keep talking to her

[lunar hazel]

I see thank you!

[swift nymph]

So i maxed out dusa's heart but the last conversation didn't pop up. Where she gives you back all the ambrosia you gave her

also the bond forged thingy didn't pop out

[somber estuary]

Do more runs

[swift nymph]

I actually did more than 20+ already

She was already kicked out of the house then came back

[calm drum]

More runs

[swift nymph]

Oh

So it comes up

eventually?

Thanks

I thought it was a bug or smth

[calm drum]

That's just how the game is, if something isn't working you just haven't done enough runs

[neat crow]

It could just be that other dialog was taking priority

[barren tide]

Very rarely, he does approve their claims

[stuck wolf]

what are the shades even making claims for? which area of the Underworld they get to stay in, or where to work?

[cinder gulch]

maybe they want specific aspects of their sentences negotiated

[pure rune]

Or making a case for them to be sent to a specific region of the afterlife

[cinder gulch]

or it could be stuff like "My neighbor plays loud music and I very much don't appreciate this Lord Hades"

[pure rune]

i.e. a shade arguing that they might be better in somewhere like Asphodel veruse somewhere like Elysium or Tartarus

[cinder gulch]

oooh arguing AGAINST Elysium, that's interesting

[stuck wolf]

||Achilles did it, in order to have Patroclus in Elysium instead||

[cinder gulch]

||to be fair, he landed himself a job in the house of hades, so not exactly a downgrade||

[stuck wolf]

true enough

[terse spear]

I mean every single one gets denied so it’s not like it really matters that much lmao

[cinder gulch]

SOME of them get approved

I can only imagine what those requests might have been for

[terse spear]

Really? I never noticed I just thought he denied all of them

[vestal pagoda]

yeah some stuff gets approved

[cinder gulch]

Very rarely, he approves some

[vestal pagoda]

very rarely

[ebon loom]

I like to believe it's frivolous stuff

"this house I was placed in has an earthy rug but I wanted an elysian rug!"

[cinder gulch]

"Absurd. Denied."

Yeah, that makes sense.

[stuck wolf]

I wonder if some of them make claims to leave the underworld

When listening in on conversations of shades, one of the things they talk about is if they can get Hades to lead them out like with Orpheus

[storm river]

How come the olympians still give zag boons post story?

Surely they have other stuff they care more about

Or do they just care that much about keeping the underworld secure?

[cinder gulch]

they care more about underworld matters now since they like Zag and Nyx and have reconnected with Hades and Persephone

[prisma bridge]

kinda like

the underworld is now part of olympus vibes?

[open berry]

thats explained in the epilogue

[plain cloak]

Got to the end of the epilogue, I think that's it as far as the main story is concerned?

[atomic forge]

There's some post-epilogue dialogue, ||including Olympians talking about Zag being employed by the House as opposed to just trying to escape.||

But otherwise, yes, that's basically it.

[plain cloak]

No word on any DLC either I'm guessing?

[normal kiln]

dlc is unlikely, sadly

not something SGG is known for

[plain cloak]

Oh well, getting almost 90+ hours for $20 was definitely worth it

[muted magnet]

it irks me only bc theres several empty keepsake slots and its TAUNTING me

[swift nymph]

lmao

I kinda wished you get to spar with some olympians

[vestal pagoda]

i'd imagine if zag ever made it to olympus he'd spar with ares

[rough walrus]

i want a sequel tbh

i know it'd be completely out of character for supergiant but like...

i want MOAR

[vestal pagoda]

same but it'll probably never happen

[rough walrus]

😔

also

demeter

hades might be the antagonist but demeter is the villain

[muted magnet]

zeus

[rough walrus]

zeus is also a big part of the problem

[muted magnet]

as always

is the source of all problems

demeter just misses her girl

and its spiteful

[rough walrus]

i feel like demeter was the primary problem

persephone would have left anyway eventually

[muted magnet]

overbearing mother forcing her only child to want to leave?

[rough walrus]

yeah

zeus didn't help at all

with his whole stunt

[muted magnet]

yeah but remember who zeus is

more of a "screw now think later" type of guy

cough IO cough

[rough walrus]

ah man

[vestal pagoda]

zeus thinks with his head

not that head tho

[muted magnet]

but the wrong one

[rough walrus]

not the one with a brain in it

though with him i'm not sure there's a brain in either

athena might have taken it when she jumped out of his head

[muted magnet]

so i watched the agdq run the other day

what part about extreme measures speeds up Lernie

[vestal pagoda]

the heads are closer together

which make them faster to kill

[muted magnet]

[vestal pagoda]

saves quite a bit of time

[muted magnet]

prob keeping that on permananently now

and the tight deadline

[vestal pagoda]

yeah i've had it on for a while now

[muted magnet]

bc it skips the timeed survical rooms

[vestal pagoda]

feels weird if i dont have it on

[muted magnet]

its fun to do so if only for hte fact the ssisters all comment on it

[vestal pagoda]

actually if you're doing a speedrun based on IGT you'd want TD off

[muted magnet]

"ugh, finally alone again"

except for tis but uh

you know

[vestal pagoda]

since the survival rooms pause the timer

[vestal pagoda]

yeah all she can say is murder and zagreus

[muted magnet]

real talk, teaching tis how to saw your name was a mistake

bc now i jsut get "MURDER ZAGREUS"

[vestal pagoda]

or zagreus murder

[muted magnet]

zagreus MURDERERR

[vestal pagoda]

sometimes she just goes zaahhhhh

[rough walrus]

i'm sure everything will be fine once she finally adds happy to her vocabulary

[muted magnet]

I Was halfway hoping shed eventually say happy

HAPPY

MURDER

[versed dagger]

MÙUUUUURĐĔř

Murder?

Műřďēŕėŕ!

[low tapir]

murderzer

[muted magnet]

i just rememebred hte first time i turned on extreme measures

i paniceked

bc i thought i was going to have to ltierally fight all 3 furies

[low tapir]

that woulda been awesome

but no the other two are just stage hazards 😔

[muted magnet]

the only way to balance it would be like

3 health bars but all cut into thirds to equal the health of one

[vestal pagoda]

had the same feeling when i first saw them lol

i was like 'wtf i gotta fight all three? okay then'

[muted magnet]

I have decided the eyeballs and flame wheels are the worst part of Damage Control

[low tapir]

flame wheels

eww

[green dove]

hey guys, i put 5 titan blood into bows and talked to artemis, she said the thing to get the final aspect but when i went back to the bow upgrades it didn't unlock. am i missing something?

[open tiger]

Did she specifically give you a phrase to say?

And did you finish/die on the run, or did you give up?

[green dove]

she said the nice bow you have there i saw on youtube

also my boon to go back and see here is not working. it keeps giving me hammer instead

oh i just gave up

[muted magnet]

she has to specificially give you a phrase, it would been in italics