#h1-story-discussion

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red ravine
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Yes

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It is?

warm summit
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yeah I think so

open berry
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yeah its unique, it only plays once

warm summit
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I haven't seen it more than once

red ravine
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Ah

spring dust
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Yup, just did another run and still the same thing, duo boon was offered with no dialogue. No worries though, I appreciate you taking the time to answer!

earnest elm
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||Hades is the last boss right? i still not finish the game but asking for the spoiler||

modest vine
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first of all you are in the spoiler channel you don't have to spoiler anything

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why do you want to learn from us who's the last boss and not find on your own? I mean I can tell you if you want but are you sure?

earnest elm
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@modest vine Oh just tell me it's not hades

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i thought im in disscussion channel

modest vine
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Well if you want to know then yes he is

fleet drift
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I got the credits!

gloomy frigate
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donโ€™t know who edits the wiki, but epilogue requirements says you need Hermes at 8 hearts but I had him at 6 and still got it

frozen jolt
potent matrix
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am i the only one who wonders how the olympians would have reacted ||if they saw chaos at the banquet it the House of Hades||
sure, Chaos talks about being forgotten i just wonder... would Ares at least comment on them since he has such an admiration for cthonic gods?

warm quartz
frozen jolt
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you only need 6 olympians maxed, so that must be it. I donโ€™t think the requirements have changed, but who knows, I havenโ€™t checked

somber estuary
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||Ares slowly growing on me. He's like, edgy on purpose but he's actually a huge lore nerd. I love how he says he reads the prophecies of the Fates regularly and wants to know about the Cthonic gods. Like, now when the other olympians take jabs at him for being creepy or awkward I'm like don't be mean to Ares, once you get past his rough edges he's a pretty sharp dude.||

potent matrix
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ares is a babe

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but his simping for nyx is a bit too much ๐Ÿ˜‚

somber estuary
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It might just be his awkward nature since he just really wants to know about the Cthonic gods and is jealous that they reached out to Athena before him, the number one Cthonic nerd.

potent matrix
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also gotta love how you really feel scared of him cause he's the war god, bloodshed and pure violence and all that and then you come across his fightstyle in trial of the gods and just... understandable but pathetic ๐Ÿ˜‚

somber estuary
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But if he's simping for Nyx I mean, I'm not one to judge. I'd simp for Nyx she's the best.

potent matrix
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aww guess thats another reason as to why he is one of the only gods that trigger in the first ever run

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little jelly babe

potent matrix
somber estuary
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Zag definitely has that "don't try to date my mom" vibe getting defensive about it but Nyx is like "don't worry" so she's probably perceptive enough to pick up on what Ares is about. Zag just has pom for brains is all.

potent matrix
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nyx is her own women/goddess who can truly take on a god of violence with no worries whatsoever

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that really makes me wonder how much she actually does to all of greece since her work really isnt mentioned by anybody except that she "cares for the house of hades and underworld since the beginning of time"
so how come ares is the biggest nyx simp and even athena really worships and admires her but only those two, the war gods o.o

somber estuary
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War sends them a lot of souls. They might have an interest in their part in the Cthonic responsibilities.

open berry
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ares appreciation, we love to see it! welcome to the club ares

potent matrix
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we love our cthonic gods fanboy ares

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but yeah there is rarely any appreciation for him in the channels huh o.o

open berry
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its why i make it my duty to do so ๐Ÿคง

somber estuary
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I recall Ares mentioning that Nyx being night incarnate is cool because night has all kinds of tactical advantages for warfare and many victories are owed to her. Also Athena being like "I was born from all the wisdom escaping Zeus' head so I always wanted a mom as cool as Nyx". Paraphrasing of course.

spring canyon
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How to unlock hidden aspect of adamant rail?

somber estuary
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Uh, have hidden aspects unlocked from talking to Achilles about Varatha and getting the ability to spend blood on Guan Yu, then have 5 blood spent on Exagryph on non zag aspect and talk to Zeus I think?

spring canyon
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So i have to spend 5 blood on rail except zag aspect ah?

somber estuary
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I think so. I know it was 5 blood spent and I'm fairly sure it can't be Zag aspect? There's a pin with the full deets somewhere up top.

spring canyon
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It says only 5 titan blood

somber estuary
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But yeah it's Zeus for Exagryph once all conditions are met just keep talking to him.

spring canyon
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I am on lvl2 on zag and lvl1 eris and lvl1 hestia

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It must be enough right?

somber estuary
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Looks like it. It also says that for Exagryph you must have had Zeus already give the commentary of you having it equipped. Once that has been said you don't have to have it equipped for the convo where Zeus gives you the waking phrase.

fleet drift
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I beat Charon first time! Then he sent me right into the mini boss
I'm at 4hp! Yay!

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And died next room

somber estuary
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Classic Charon. What a great sense of humor that guy has.

void pier
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Does buying the carpets for the lounge count towards prophecy completion or does only 1 carpet purchase count?

red imp
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Will meg still appear in the lounge if you use extreme measures?

somber estuary
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I... thiiink the lounge upgrades all count for the prophecy no matter the category?

drifting citrus
somber estuary
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And yeah Meg can still show up if your previous runs were with extreme.

red ravine
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Is the hermes line about him being fast because of practice a unique line or recycled?

frank tapir
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Whaddya mean

somber estuary
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I think they mean can they hear that line again or is it only under a specific circumstance

potent matrix
red ravine
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Yeah, I can't get hermes favor

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And not the qoute actually

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I've used maxed plume for 10 runs or so and I can't get Hermes's favor

potent matrix
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it can take aLOT of time

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it took me like 40 runs to finally get it unlocked because other dialogue is deemed more important

red ravine
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Sounds like that should be patched tbh

open berry
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bad rng more than anything

potent matrix
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hermes has alot to talk about

open berry
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some dialogue is weighted to have higher priority but ultimately whatever comes up is still like a figurative dice roll

potent matrix
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it's the same with nyx and achilles, so honestly being patient with him makes sense

smoky nacelle
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Hey, I've had achilles and patroclus maxed out for ages now and haven't got any progress on their favir

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Maxed out pre-favor I mean

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And I do have the admin chambers unlocked

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It's been forever

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Am I missing something else I need?

potent matrix
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has patty talked about ||achilles risking it all||?

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else you might just miss a few dialogue juggling between them
if yes then look out to also have nyx a bit more in your favor?

smoky nacelle
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I know my achilles dialogue is maxed out since most runs he has nothing to say unless I achieve something new the past run

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Idk if pat has talked about that, it might have happened a while ag

potent matrix
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but is the achilles-patty dialogue maxed?

smoky nacelle
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Also nyx is actually maxed for me

potent matrix
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since you are kinda playing hermes between them

smoky nacelle
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Achilles is, idk if pat is

potent matrix
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do you have any other side plot completed? ||sisy or orpheus and his lady||?

smoky nacelle
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Yup

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Almost all of them

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Lol

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I just want them to be happy damn it!!!

potent matrix
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thats another requirement to have one of those completed

smoky nacelle
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Why won't achilles let me make him not sad!!!

potent matrix
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it may be that you're missing a few messages from patty since he tends to get even more depressed and silent in the very last meetings?

smoky nacelle
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Hm

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I was wondering if that was it

potent matrix
smoky nacelle
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It's just been quite a while

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I do have new dialogue for him still

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Just gotta do more runs I guess

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I swear I'm gonna end up maxing out every other relationship in the game first haha

potent matrix
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lool

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well, what would you expect from two equally depressed lads trying to get back together

smoky nacelle
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I have 4 olympian gods and hypnos left

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Unmaxed

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That's it

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I genuinely might get everyone else maxed first

potent matrix
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may the patty room be in your favor ;-;

smoky nacelle
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Especially since I already know I've completed aphrodite's favor, just haven't gotten the dialogue

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Thank you

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Also, I gotta say, just having finished it, as a straight dude, I love the thanatos romance way more than the megera one

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I know it's not a competition or anything

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But it felt more natural to me for the characters

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And they payoff was great for it

potent matrix
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well it is the more genuinely romantic one since meg's is almost purely sexual

smoky nacelle
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You think?

potent matrix
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thats the 3 greek love types whoop

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thats official lol

smoky nacelle
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OH SNAP

potent matrix
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xD

smoky nacelle
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I DIDNT REALIZE THAY

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THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

potent matrix
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welcome to greek mythology

smoky nacelle
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I WAS FEELING LIKE MEGERAS RELATIONSHIP FELT KIND OF SHALLOW, THATS BECAUSE ITS INTENDED TO JUST BE SEXUALLLL

potent matrix
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i also had the same reaction, it was a beautiful day

smoky nacelle
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IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOWWW

potent matrix
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:D

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friends with benefits ;)

smoky nacelle
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I'm s h o o k t h

potent matrix
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and a bit of death ._.

smoky nacelle
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That also pits some dialogue in perspective

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About them talking about how they're not the same to him

potent matrix
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about their former relationship?

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ahhh yes

smoky nacelle
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It makes much more sense now

potent matrix
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this is also why ||dusa's romance|| is considered one

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  • aro representation ;w;
smoky nacelle
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Honestly, we all need a dusa in our life

potent matrix
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agree

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but i would be scared that she might try to clean my chambers

smoky nacelle
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I have a friend who I think my relationship to is a lot like dusa and zagreus

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It's good vibes

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One of my all time favorite human beings

potent matrix
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awww

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precious

smoky nacelle
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Like, she is technically the gender that I'm attracted to, but I just don't think I could think about her in that way, I just she's just an amazing friend

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Also, she's really friendly, ace, and really small

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So big dusa vibes

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Lol

potent matrix
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normalize hetero other gender friendships!

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hell yeah!

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a tiny dusa :o

smoky nacelle
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I mean, dusa is small, bit it's cuz she's just a head

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So I guess that's kinda different?

potent matrix
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her head looks bigger than zags

smoky nacelle
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Yeah but as a whole, she's small

potent matrix
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i think she would tower over him in full body glory

smoky nacelle
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CHAD DUSAAA

potent matrix
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CHAD DUSA

smoky nacelle
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That's like the diglett fanart with the buff body

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I need that now!!

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In my life

potent matrix
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medusa got made into maid dusa

smoky nacelle
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Buff dusa fanart

potent matrix
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now chad dusa

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this server/game/fandom is beautiful

smoky nacelle
somber estuary
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There's four kinds of love in Greek philosophy but the 4th one isn't represented in hearts because it's divine love and Zag's the divine in this situation! zagluv

smoky nacelle
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Now they just need to add a relationship option for artemis
Representing
Uh,
I'll think of something

potent matrix
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i have a seen a few dusa full body fanarts but none were CHAD level

somber estuary
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Being the "little godling" he is

smoky nacelle
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Also true, divine love wouldn't really make sense

potent matrix
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zag is divinely infatuated with himself >:D

somber estuary
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Artemis has an oath of chastity so isn't it still philial love?

smoky nacelle
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I mean, he does hang a portrait of himself on the wall

potent matrix
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true that

smoky nacelle
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Oh does she?

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Damn

potent matrix
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maybe achilles tho

smoky nacelle
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Lol

potent matrix
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artemis is a goddess of virginity lol

smoky nacelle
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YOOO TRUEE

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She also hangs out all alone in the forrest

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I see it

potent matrix
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yeah

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with her besties

smoky nacelle
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Me except my room

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But same deal

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Her room is just big and filled with trees

potent matrix
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honestly if you had a divine forest right by your house tho

smoky nacelle
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I'd hang out there for sure

potent matrix
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all animals like to be pet and are neither scared of me now attack me other than if i wish to hunt??? uh??? YES????

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PETS FOR LIFE

smoky nacelle
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I just like joking about artemis romance because, and you cannot convince me otherwise:
God next door vibes

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Lol

potent matrix
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well her dialogue when you first get the aphro-artemis duo is kinda weirdly romancey

smoky nacelle
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I've heard, but I haven't seen it yet

potent matrix
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kinda tsundere

smoky nacelle
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Also she talks a lot about how she feels like almost no one understands her, but she feels like she connects with you

potent matrix
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go for it lad

smoky nacelle
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Lmao

potent matrix
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honestly i feel so bad for her

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this game really gifted her a sad background

smoky nacelle
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Yeah

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She definitely gives god next door vibes tho, that's the best way I can out it

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Her dialogue but als

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I mean, aphrodite is aphrodite, so not atainable, hera is a cranky grandma, athena doesn't seem interested at all

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So none of them

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Lol

potent matrix
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wellllllllll

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athena is her cousin?

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hera is his aunt?

smoky nacelle
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That's not an issue for greek gods, you know that and I know that lol

potent matrix
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and sgg made very clear that they want all incest minimized

smoky nacelle
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That's good

potent matrix
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indeed

somber estuary
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Artemis didn't give me those vibes, she seemed more like she's on the spectrum. Not like in a bad way or anything.

potent matrix
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hence why persephone isnt related to hades :D

smoky nacelle
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I can confirm, I am pro-reducing incest

smoky nacelle
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It would make a lot of sense

potent matrix
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my ace qween :c

somber estuary
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Divine representation there.

potent matrix
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all the representation my dudes :c

smoky nacelle
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It would explain well her feelings of disconnect from people

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OH SNAP

potent matrix
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ohhh another snap moment

smoky nacelle
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They also talk about how she, more than almost all the other gods, is almost singularly focused on her job

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You know what thing autistic people often do? Develop incredibly strong interests

somber estuary
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Gods can be introverts, they do whatever they want, heh.

smoky nacelle
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More than most people

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So that would make a lot of sense too!

potent matrix
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i wouldnt go that far with her tbh

red ravine
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Pog

smoky nacelle
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It absolutely could be not a thing

potent matrix
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she does get insanely social outside of olympus

somber estuary
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Also there's her oath. If she revoked that then she's not the goddess of the same spheres of influence anymore.

smoky nacelle
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But I feel like it totally could be

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No they make a point of saying that she is explicitly more focused on just her job than most of the other gods

potent matrix
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it's just her family that she really doesnt feel like she belongs with

smoky nacelle
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most of the other gods do the thing they're the God of, and then also go do other things, she seems to mostly just do that

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It could be nothing, but it could be not nothing

potent matrix
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honestly with her amazing job - same

red ravine
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Aspergers Artemis

smoky nacelle
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Yo it's alterative

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Confirmed

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Cannon now

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Lol

somber estuary
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Protecc daughter god of the hunt.

smoky nacelle
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Oh, did you guys see the tier list I made the other day of Hades characters who I would want to be friends with?

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I'm curious if your opinions are close to mine

somber estuary
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Is it all Cerberus?

smoky nacelle
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Don't worry he's at the very top in his own teir

somber estuary
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Well, to be quite honest I think Charon is a cool dude.

somber estuary
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Pretty much all 3 of the super sons of night bros.

potent matrix
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TISIPHONE WHY

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ARES WHY

smoky nacelle
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I'm sorry but I don't want her near me

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Like, I feel bad about it

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But I don't want her around

potent matrix
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D:

smoky nacelle
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She always talks about murder only!

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Also ares too!

potent matrix
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maybe thats her "i am groot"

somber estuary
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No she's just speaking her own language made entirely of particles that sound like "murder"

potent matrix
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ares is simping for nyx and cthonic gods

smoky nacelle
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I mean, nyx is hot, I don't blame him lol

potent matrix
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he is the only one who admires them and actually aknowledge that everything came from them

smoky nacelle
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I didn't put him in go away tier

potent matrix
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he aint even simping for her in a visual attraction way

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my poor nerd D:

somber estuary
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You gotta read between the lines! Like that time when she was like "Za...Zaaagerer. Murrmuurder!" she was just trying to tell you "Zagreus, please hook a sister up with that dreamboat Charon in the other room!"

smoky nacelle
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He went in the "not my friend but would be a good friend for someone else tier"

potent matrix
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whelp, more for tatz

smoky nacelle
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I think I personally just wouldn't want to be friends with a guy who loves war and killing so much

potent matrix
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tisiphone x charon, interesting ๐Ÿ‘€

somber estuary
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I mean come on, it's obvious. They won't shut up about each other...

potent matrix
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๐Ÿ˜‚

smoky nacelle
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Truee

potent matrix
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somebody talks urrrghn and murrrrrrr-der fluently?

smoky nacelle
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Do you guys agree with the rest of my placements?

potent matrix
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yesnt but thats ok

somber estuary
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Zag just pretends not to notice because his own relationships would pale in comparison to how romantic theirs would be.

potent matrix
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i just dont have any rl friends to compare anyone to :)

smoky nacelle
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Aw

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Well I'm your friend!

potent matrix
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aww thank you ;-;

smoky nacelle
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You don't know me in real life, but we're friends now

potent matrix
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ah yes

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friend-dopted

smoky nacelle
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You seem like a really cool human from all our interactions

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So I've decided we're friends

potent matrix
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cool humanoid

smoky nacelle
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And there's nothing you can do about it

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Indeed

potent matrix
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cooloid

smoky nacelle
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๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

somber estuary
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Also as far as your placements they are interesting even if I disagree with half of them. With such a cast it's clear different people will feel affinity for different characters.

potent matrix
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i can work with that probably

smoky nacelle
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That's really interesting

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And yeah, since they're all so fleshed out, it makes sense people would feel different ways

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Although if anyone disagrees with me on that top tier then I cannot understand them at a basic level

somber estuary
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They're too pure for this underworld.

smoky nacelle
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Any changes on the tiers below that are acceptable

potent matrix
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i would personally put everybody but alecto and zeus in the higher-middle layer

smoky nacelle
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Interesting

potent matrix
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and maybe put dio in his own category cause thighs

smoky nacelle
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Also, I differentiate the good and great friends into easy to make a friend and tougher to make a friend with, but neither of those are actually better or worse

somber estuary
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Alecto is... I dunno. Kinda fun? Like in a Theseus kind of way. Fight them to the death enough and you might start to look forward to it? Ha I dunno.

potent matrix
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alecto is fun but i really dont like her spitting "redblood" at me

smoky nacelle
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Yeah, like, is I'd be happy to be in a class with her

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But not her friend

somber estuary
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Alecto... this is pomegranate juice!

smoky nacelle
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Lmao

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You know what the real tragedy of this game is?

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Zagreus, god of blood, forger of connections, loved by so many right?

Still can't find a single person to play a goddamn board game with

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Big rip

potent matrix
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wouldve been great for some ace representation beside the aro one

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but i am personally already so happy seeing somebody like dusa there

somber estuary
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When Persephone jokes that maybe Zag is only bound to the underworld for as many months as pomegranate seeds he's eaten I just imagine Z like counting on his fingers then going wide eyed and saying "Mother... I've been eating pomegranates whole almost every day since I was a child!"

smoky nacelle
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Oh speaking of which

potent matrix
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thats gonna be a few eons

smoky nacelle
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||she just left for me after the feast, I figured it was just going to be every once in a while, but the dialogue makes it seem like she's gone for the rest of my playtime, is that true?||

potent matrix
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nope

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she will come back sometimes

smoky nacelle
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Oh thank god

somber estuary
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||She'll drop in. Kinda like the seasons.||

smoky nacelle
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||I was gonna miss her!||

potent matrix
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it will just sometimes really seem logn until you see her

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||dont forget to check the garden||

smoky nacelle
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That's a bit sad

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Glad I'll still see her though

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I'm going to actually play some more right now

potent matrix
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i miss seeing her above attire

smoky nacelle
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It was nice talking to you guys

potent matrix
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it was very nice indeed my friend bro dude

smoky nacelle
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It's always so pleasant hanging out on this server, love that

potent matrix
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pleasant server

smoky nacelle
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Indeed

potent matrix
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full with dusa vibes

smoky nacelle
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Talk to you guys later

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Have a good night!

potent matrix
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gnight :)

void lake
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Is there a downside to ||taking the ambrosia back from dusa||?

dense pumice
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No

somber estuary
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Only hearing one line of dialogue instead of one other line.

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Worth it. I'm not lacking in ambrosia I only traded like 2 of them for blood and I got a bunch of prophecies really early on.

potent matrix
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i want to know how many hours darren spent saying weapon aspects excitedly

hollow patrol
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is it possible to use two companion charges during hades fight

grand idol
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no

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u cant use 2 companion charges in any single encounter

hollow patrol
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lastly, if i already have hemes attack speed, is it possible to find attack speed again but in better rarirty

grand idol
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no

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if you already have a boon you cant find it again with better rarity

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that applies to all boons

hollow patrol
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i gotta purge it to find it again

grand idol
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yeah

hollow patrol
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ight

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big helps brotherman

grand idol
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np

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actually ok the ONLY one im unsure of about that rule

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is chaos

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im p sure u can get the same chaos blessing

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but any olympian god nah u cant see the same boon

stiff haven
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I can't seem to get Charged Volley with Chiron Bow at the minor prophecies after having runs with it multiple times. Should I just try the zag aspect?

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I have few prophecies left and this damn charged volley is playing hard to get

atomic forge
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Charged Volley cannot spawn on Chiron.

stiff haven
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GOTCHA GODAMMIT.

atomic forge
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I'm sorry, are you trolling?

stiff haven
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No no just enlightened to know

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silly me trying to get it on chiron bruh

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Also about the lyre prophecy, gotta have to trigger more dialogues with orpheus and keep playing?

atomic forge
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Yeah, there's a sequence of dialogue.

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You can literally grind out the entirety of the play attempts in one pass (it will progress through murdered chords to coherent notes to riffs if you just keep hitting the button), but the conversations with Orpheus have to be completed run-to-run.

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It's possible other dialogue will muddy it up, just keep going and talking to Orpheus every time you pass through the House.

stiff haven
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Yeah the rough part is the interval between the play button showing up in the lyre is getting longer, thanks for the heads up

atomic forge
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It's a wonderful parallel to how progress slows in real life.

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As you get better at a given pursuit milestones take longer.

somber estuary
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Forgot what channel I was in.

grand idol
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@frank marlin typing here so we dont have to use spoiler tags

frank marlin
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kk

grand idol
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skelly gives you statues of himself for 8, 16, and 32 heat. theyll be covered by a sheet, right next to where you exit to start a run in the courtyard right now

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they're meme rewards but they're funny

frank marlin
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oh i see

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thats cool

frank marlin
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how do i fight charon?

calm orchid
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so i got the epilogue. is the game considered complete now? someone told me there was a thing about Zag's ||parentage, and how he's the adopted son of Hades or some'in.|| Is that an actual subplot?

spring wind
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It doesnt happen every run but once in a while ig

feral stratus
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are there any consequences to ||maxing ambrosia with both thanatos and megaera||

weary seal
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No, it's actually the opposite of consequence

atomic forge
forest hearth
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does the story continue after you get the true ending

feral stratus
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idk about you but i still have a lot of nectar and ambrosia to give out to complete the story

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keep forgetting to give stuff to the gods

vague tangle
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is there a way to not get rejected by dusa in the end

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just curious

drifting citrus
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@devout lake rule 2, keep it clean please!

devout lake
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๐Ÿ’ฉ

potent matrix
forest hearth
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thanks

storm river
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Iโ€™m a little impressed by how I still get new dialogue 100+ hours in

night trellis
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do i get literally anything for skelly's third statue or did i do that for nothing

dense pumice
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You get the statue

night trellis
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good point, i'm sorry

open finch
potent matrix
calm drum
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Game is canon, mythology is for nerds

potent matrix
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then why have you not joined the ranks of the hades role

vague tangle
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can't believe the devs made a ||threessome event if you romance both than and meg. what a time to be alive||

somber estuary
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There are multiple versions of the mythogy depending on island and time period. Zagreus' myths are particularly muddled and they must have thought that would make it perfect for a protag, lots of leeway for them while still having a more genuine feel.

storm river
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Plus heโ€™s like the god of rebirth and hunting in some versions, perfect for a roguelite

somber estuary
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||Sometimes he's Dionysus. Sometimes Dionysus is his freaky clone twin grown from a vine in his interred heart. Sometimes he really is just Persephone's kid after she ate the pomegranate seeds with Hades. Sometimes he's Zeus' kid who got resurrected in the underworld.
Personally I think he's just an ambulatory pomegranate tree that grew in Persephone's underworld garden! Haha||

potent matrix
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the thing with ||"sometimes he's dionysus"|| is based on the belief of the dark age in greek culture if i remember correctly. since why the heck would a god of wine and party be deemed important enough to be one of the olympians, the highest and most important of gods

somber estuary
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Cult resurging at that time of the Orphic myths, Zag man.

potent matrix
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especially considering that partying was frowned upon in the two main cities of greece and was more considered "oh you party, you're in a cult"

storm river
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Orphic Dionysus was scary

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He was also the god of madness, sorta like the bad side of drinking too much

somber estuary
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"Hey hey Orpheus man ya know that is just the saddest melody I've ever heard, ya dig? Hey man, Orpheus it would just really lighten the mood of this place if you could just, get this man, be torn apart by Satyrs okay man? Alright."

sonic sinew
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Also with some of the myths, Dionysus was also the only Olympian God that wasn't fully a God either

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Since he was born to Semele, who was a mortal

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And yeah, some of the Dionysus myths were MEEEEESSED up

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One of the Dionysus myths I remember is the one where he gets kidnapped by pirates, he tries to convince them he's a god, was unsuccessful in doing so, and as a result he turns everyone on the crew into sea animals (I think they were dolphins) except for the helmsman, who he makes into one of his head priests as he was the only one who believed Dio's story.

torpid vine
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Some of his followers were REALLY wild too.

atomic forge
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I mean... we know how orpheus died

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Mans was ||dismembered|| by the guys followers

potent matrix
#

in some myths yes

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not in all versions tho

atomic forge
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Theres always variations. That one felt relevant though

halcyon zealot
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Holy smokes do I always get cold shivers down my spine when ||On the coast starts playing. Especially the last 30sec of that song are โฃ๏ธ||

atomic forge
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The very first time I made it past Hades on the surface I was just crying the entire time.

fathom current
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You know what's unfortunate about the first half of God of The Dead being 4 minutes? It's one of those songs you don't want to hear for 4 minutes, since that means that's how long you've been fighting him.

calm drum
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Laughs in stubborn roots

fathom ivy
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Is there a certain thing I have to do to get the ||Achilles and Patroclus summon?||

atomic forge
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Gotta reunite them.

fathom ivy
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Iโ€™ve gotten their relationships as far as they will go for now and Iโ€™ve encountered both for a while

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Is there another thing I have to do or is it just random?

atomic forge
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Keep talking to both, of course, max their meters to the lock.

fathom ivy
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Ok

atomic forge
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I think you need to do at least one of Orpheus' and Sisyphus' favors.

fathom ivy
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So I need to get the Sisyphus summon before?

storm river
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You also need to undo at least one of either of Orpheus contract or Sisyphus or both first

fathom ivy
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Ok

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I did the Orpheus thing from the contractor

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And now I just wait?

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Sorry if Iโ€™m being a nuisance btw

void pier
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If I clear Heats that are higher than the minimum requirement for new stuff, do the rewards stack in a single run?

atomic forge
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No.

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You get the lowest value, as well.

void pier
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Okay, so best to do them slowly one heat at a time?

atomic forge
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If you immediately leap to 50 Heat you get rewards for 1, then 2, then 3, and so on and so forth.

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Yes.

void pier
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Okay, thank you

potent ridge
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I just beat Hades a 10th time and saw the credits.

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It was sooooooo adorable!

somber estuary
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I'm paraphrasing that obviously.

storm river
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Why does Zag always say ||to check the garden|| a millisecond before you leave?

dense pumice
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Because someone's in ||the garden|| and you can talk to them

storm river
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I know, but he says it too late for me to actually go in there

warm summit
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you're in too much of a hurry ๐Ÿ˜›

calm drum
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If you go to his room I think you miss it

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It's usually mom and dad being wholesome

calm orchid
open finch
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Ah they probably meant adopted by Nyx which is like one of the first things you find out zaglol

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and yith the sad men who refuse to admit they want to be happy ๐Ÿ˜” v stubborn

calm orchid
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oh no they were adamant that zag was hades' adopted son . smh

open finch
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:0

calm orchid
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but oh how fulfilling it was to reunite those two? enough to make an underworld god shed a manly tear :')

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yeahhh ikr. i was like what who when??

storm river
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I like Patty being all happy and not emo

calm orchid
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yes my guy deserves happiness

storm river
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I personally reunited them way after the epilogue tho

open finch
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Happy Patroclus is best Patroclus

storm river
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First I need to survive to Elysium, then I need to get Patty's room

calm orchid
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i managed it just before the epilogue. purposely avoided every dio boon door bcs he was the last of the invite

calm orchid
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after a few runs it was beep beep! got a msg for Pat, sir? gotta go fast

storm river
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Patty was a life saver on the final run that completed their favor, gave me my DDs back and then I beat the final boss

calm orchid
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ayyyyyy fr he's the truest mvp

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his boons literally have it all. life? health? attack?

fathom current
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...Say, if we were to take stats literally, would that mean that Zagreus would deal the most damage out of any god? (||Hades|| deals 40-60 damage on average, Zag can easily deal more than 100)

storm river
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I think the damage is scaled so we can be awed by large numbers from hits

prime mulch
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dat is with the help from all of the olympian gods, AND with the help of infernal weapons

calm drum
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its not actual damage from god

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its boons

storm river
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A fully leveled up Hestia rail can do 100 something damage after manual reload

calm drum
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also aphro deals 2500

storm river
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So Zag doesn't necessarily need boons to hit hard

potent matrix
prime mulch
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dat is still zgreus with a titan blood infused infernal arms

calm drum
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it's also hestia's rail lol

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like hestia exists

fathom current
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He does, but heโ€™s also faster than Hades. Both in evasion and DPS

potent matrix
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well the zag aspects boonless and mirrorless are already good enough to do some damage

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not nearly as much as with boons but still decent

calm drum
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but also like boons arent the entirety of the gods' power

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its like a tiny bit

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even theseus has boons

potent matrix
#

are you insinuating that theseus is a weak ass bro? shadeohboy

storm river
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And like the companions, the circle attack that meg does hits Zag way less compared to using her summon

calm drum
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well he's no god

potent matrix
#

love is all the underworld needs

fathom current
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Snrk

potent matrix
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just not in aphrodite form

calm drum
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like surely the gods arent granting him or zagreus enough of their power that it would debilitate them in the slightest way

prime mulch
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marmy with the friendship is magic argument

potent matrix
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:)))))

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all day every day boyo

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you literally have to get their friendship to max to even get access to their true level of care with 2200 damage

prime mulch
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give them enough alchohol so they can hit stronger lot more times

potent matrix
#

dusa dun drink for example tho

fathom current
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Donโ€™t take too much though or it could prove lethal...over time.

calm drum
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just have high tolerance

fathom current
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True!

potent matrix
#

if than as death personified would die just because of alcohol.............

red imp
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||Persephone|| just told me to not come back

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not cool

fathom current
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oof

solid iron
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||Nyx fired Dusa!!|| ๐Ÿ˜ญ shadegrief ๐Ÿ˜ค

rare steppe
#

||i just got friendzoned by Dusa, and my disappointment is immesurable||

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||i did not expect this game to bring back bad irl memories that i'd forgotten for years... damn||

open berry
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i mean its not meant to be taken as a bad thing, she was trying to sort out her feelings as much as zag was. she still loves him, its just a different love, and the game points that out

rare steppe
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||i understand, it just kinda suckerpunched me out of nowhere||

#

||tho it is pretty sick that we're still best friends for eternity||

open berry
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yeah i think the romance options were playing on different forms of greek love iirc

#

wish i could remember where i heard that though

rare steppe
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||omg. it just clicked||

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||in the myths, they say Medusa was turned into a hideous gorgon because of her love for Poseidon and his poor decision making. what if sheโ€™s just trying to avoid a similar situation here?||

somber estuary
thorn compass
#

She Ra?

red imp
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OK

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so i was doing a timed run right?

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i got to ||dad|| and had 1:30 left

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||HE JUST LET ME GO||?????

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WAIT WHAT

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||PERSEPHONE BACK WITH ME||???

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CREDITS

modest vine
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lol

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it was the ||10th win||

graceful trench
#

Did anyone else get spooked when In The Blood started playing during the boatride? The intro to the song sounds like somehtings gonna go down.

open tiger
#

yeah

graceful trench
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I was like, Is Demeter gonna show up?

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But no, just a wholesome song about family

viral grove
peak pumice
#

maybe i dont watch too many movies but i think the story and the narrative of this game is new and that is saying something considering there are lots of copy paste storylines on other media.

I said this because a protagonist finally reach his destination and then to die and repeat all over again just to find out about his mom backstory because the surface area kills him is kinda creative. kudos SGG

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This really keeps me going and to root for the main character (take way many tries considering im the one controlling him.. sorry zag)

atomic forge
#

I just got my 10th too

neat crow
#

People's reactions to reaching the credits unspoiled always brings me such joy friendly

sonic sinew
#

||Charon tipping his hat to Persephone|| in the ending sequence was such a cute little touch. ;3;

spring canyon
#

What is the code artemis say for aspect of rama

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Im not getting the code even though i have spent more than 5 blood on bow

potent matrix
#

have you gotten her to talk about coronacht already ad unlocked the hidden spear?

spring canyon
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Yes

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She told take care of the bow

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After that i didnt get any code

potent matrix
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you need her to talk about coronacht twice

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the second time will be the code

spring canyon
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So should i gift 2 nectars before that or no need

storm river
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You don't have to

spring canyon
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I have zag aspect and chiron on lvl 2

storm river
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I mean, you can't even gift nectar to another person who reveals a hidden aspect, so it shouldn't matter

spring canyon
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That is 5 blood right

uneven crater
#

What level is Zag @spring canyon

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If it's level one

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Then I think you need to upgrade it one more time

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If it's 2 ur good

spring canyon
#

Zag lvl 2

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Chiron lvl 2

uneven crater
#

Hmm

#

Maybe one more in zag just in case?

spring canyon
#

More than 5 is the condition?

potent matrix
#

@spring canyon thats the guide from here
idk about investing 5 blood into the aspects usually it's about investing 5 blood into non-zag aspects

spring canyon
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Really

potent matrix
#

idk it didnt work for me with zag

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yeah cause with sword i think you definitively were required to put 5 blood into non-zag aspects, but it also doesnt say that on the wiki

spring canyon
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I spent on chiron till lvl 2 so its 4 blood right for non zag

potent matrix
#

so just one more for hera?

spring canyon
#

Hmm ok

potent matrix
#

technically zag's aspect isnt an aspect per se but the main weapon i guess? so you already have it unlocked and the other is just bonus for it imo

spring canyon
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Thanks

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I spent on other non zag

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Now i got the code

potent matrix
#

yey!

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have fun with the new aspect!

spring canyon
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Thanks mateโค๏ธ

potent matrix
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sure thing :)

crystal dawn
#

which river flooded the asphodel meadows? styx?

smoky nacelle
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Let's goooo!

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I get to make him less saddd!!!!

potent matrix
#

LETS GO

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LESS DEPRESSO MORE romanco?

modest vine
#

when he finally said that I wanted to hug my monitor

potent matrix
#

do it

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but not too strong

modest vine
#

It's been sometime not feeling it rn

potent matrix
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:c

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your poor unhugged monitor

smoky nacelle
rapid peak
#

oh dear ~~god ~~ Zues I just looked at the total darkness to get to Unseen One

somber estuary
crystal dawn
#

Ah, thank you

fathom ivy
#

Omg Iโ€™ve been doing runs where Iโ€™ve only tried to get to Patroclus for the past four days and he hasnโ€™t done anything relating to Achilles

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Iโ€™ve maxed out both their affinities as far as they will go and he still hasnโ€™t said the thing

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Iโ€™ve even reversed the contract with Orpheus

potent matrix
#

yeah you have to first do one of the other two subplots (orpheus and his wife OR sisy) before you can continue with theirs

atomic forge
#

I maxed relationship with everybody except Demeter. How to trigger epilogue?

red imp
#

THESUS HAS A GUN

snow idol
#

LMAO

red imp
#

that was alot easier than i thought

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maybe easier than normal thesus

potent matrix
#

thats true

storm river
#

Iโ€™m impressed how I still get new dialogue even though I maxed relationship with everybody and finished the story

potent matrix
#

just beyblade asterius is annoying

storm river
#

Like, at this point, Iโ€™m not even really playing for the story, but for the gameplay loop

potent matrix
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same, 300h in now and than still talks to me about normal things D:

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i am ready for continuosly looping dialogue but not new one

kind juniper
#

I got to the ending without having to fight hades in the last attempt wtf

potent matrix
#

ah, the true ending

rustic rain
#

wait nvm

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wrong channel

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lmao

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thought this was new plaeyrs channel

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sorry

kind juniper
#

Oh hey, that worked lol

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Also it's fine

rustic rain
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u can unspoiler it i clicked on the wrong channel and was a bit confused

potent matrix
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you can still spoiler here, but it depends on you

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if you feel like it's toooo spoilery i mean

kind juniper
#

At the very least I know how to spoiler tag text now

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I don't use discord often

sinful kite
#

Wait you can be in a relationship with both thanatos and megaera?

potent matrix
#

yes

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achilles will mention something about it being ok for gods

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we love ourselves some poly representation

sinful kite
#

Noice nose bleeds

storm river
#

What's the first word you think of when you think of the greek gods?

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definitely not monogamy

potent matrix
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i want to say depends on what you most focus on in greek mythology but damn you're right

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even if only caring about the human relationships with each other it's hard to believe in monogamy

storm river
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Yeah, lots of demigods running around, because every writer wanted to say their heroes was a son of zeus

potent matrix
#

well i was thinking of achilles and odysseus but guess yea

spring kettle
#

i think even sisyphus gets in a 'good for you' line re: polyamory, though could be misremembering

atomic forge
#

Yeah he says you're courting two at the same time

flat beacon
#

What do the notes for ||successful escape attempts|| mean?

#

I got "Made Friends Along the Way", and I'm not sure what it refers to

#

I've gotten clearer ones in the past

atomic forge
coarse raptor
#

huh. does anything happen when you clear all the bounties?

atomic forge
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not really

coarse raptor
#

๐Ÿ˜ข bounties feel a bit slapped on

atomic forge
#

not that i've cleared mine

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yeah, it's just extra endgame grind probs

coarse raptor
#

yeah

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a voice line would be nice, although Dusa did tell me Nyx told her not to talk to me

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so maybe that's it, but doesn't seem likely at all

atomic forge
#

nah, that's part of a side story

keen geyser
#

oh no, orpheus is singing about all of zag's jokes to him

somber estuary
#

I hear you can get pops to comment on it if he's around when Orpheus is singing it.

keen geyser
#

YEAH HE DID

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tbh I very much enjoy the bit about being the bastard son of zeus, as that's part of zagreus' official mythology ๐Ÿ˜‚

slender walrus
#

Zagreus officially got more or less merged with Dionysis which makes the joke even more clever

keen geyser
#

my little classical history degree heart is so full with this game ngl

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...when the very next interaction with zeus after orpheus' song about zag's lies is "perhaps we ought to go around telling everyone I'm your real father, am I right?" ๐Ÿ˜‚

somber estuary
#

Zagreus doesn't really have like a singular official version to his myth, does he? Like I thought the entire point of the little extra plotlines for the hymn of Zagreus and the commentary all the other characters have is to emphasize how his myth got chopped up more than others to serve the purposes of different writers and to legitimize the cult of Dionysus, etc?

keen geyser
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Not many real actual stories, no, but the commonly "told" version is that he's the son of Zeus and Persephone after Zeus.. did what Zeus does to beget most of his offspring.

somber estuary
#

I thought that version came a little later than the one where he's just straight up Hades. Not Hades' son, just literally he's Hades.

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Also, Zeus is Hades. Everyone is Hades.

keen geyser
#

Yeah, there's this side of Greek myth where everyone is just aspects of other people

somber estuary
#

I'm Hades. You're Hades. Nice to meet me.

final echo
#

So I feel like I've hit a wall of Olympian god relationship progression and I don't really know how to progress. Couldn't find any obviously labelled Youtube tutorials for this, but I've lost the ability to give most of the gods any more nectar but the Codex shows them as still missing quite a few hearts and most without any locks. Is there something I need to do before I can give them Ambrosia or something?

keen geyser
#

afaik you can only give them one per escape?

final echo
#

I guess I cant say with absolute certainty, but it seems like I can't give them even 1 item per run now.

spice ice
#

there are certain conditions that need to be met, for example you need to encounter hermes while carrying his artifact in order to unlock more hearts

final echo
#

Makes sense, I've literally never equipped his. I've maxed out many of the others though.

open finch
final echo
#

Most do not have that. Some do.

open finch
#

For the ones that have a lock, it means there's a requirement you have to fulfill in order to proceed, but if there are hearts still available, you should be able to give them 1 nectar per run

obsidian zephyr
#

||So I saw the pin on the last aspects. Do I have to fight Hades with the Spear, or any time will do?||

open finch
#

You mean the favours for the hidden aspects?

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Or rather prophecy

obsidian zephyr
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||Guan Yu says I have to fight Hades before it unlocks. My question is do I have to fight him with the spear, or will any weapon be acceptable?||

open finch
#

Ohhhh ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘....hmmm

prime mulch
#

any

obsidian zephyr
#

cool. Cause I'm not the best with the spear.

keen geyser
#

I have yet to meet someone who is the best with the spear

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spear is my worst weapon too ๐Ÿ˜‚

fathom ivy
#

Omg

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I just beat the story

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AAAAAAAAA

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The feels

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I half expected the olympians to find out about Persephone though

keen geyser
#

There's an epilogue!

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tbh for me the biggest moment of feels was when || mom tells you you can't visit her anymore ever ||

atomic forge
#

That video is a gift.

keen geyser
#

It really is, I revisit it often

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Question, though. Do you end up doing anything with ||the garden|| or is it just sort of there?

atomic forge
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||It's just there, unfortunately.||

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||Appreciate it while you can.||

keen geyser
#

Oh, no, I mean the one you unlock after the credits scene

atomic forge
#

Ooohh.

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You get ||a thing when you complete the epilogue.||

smoky nacelle
#

Do you ever find out who hired skelly?

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I'm starting to think he hired himself I swear

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Him or charon

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Lol

atomic forge
#

you do, yes

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there's a condition for the dialogue to proc though

atomic forge
#

Got epilogue. Wew. Cool. Now what?

neat crow
#

Finish your codex? Get all the statues? Ranks? Retire?
Do what seems fun!

atomic forge
#

Only have one more hammer boon for sword and ||learning to play music ||left on my fate prophecy

toxic geyser
#

Idk do high heat runs or start speedrunning the game

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Or try meme builds

modest vine
#

whatever is fun (which in this case most likely meme builds)

frozen jolt
#

did the amount of ambrosia you need to give to dusa change? thanthink someone edited the wiki to change it from 10 to 4 but that doesnt seem correct to me

fathom garnet
#

Hey ! Do we really have ||more bed time with Than or Meg after the threesome ? I searched here but could not find anything about it :3||

upbeat willow
lethal plover
#

hey, i just read that ||persephone's garden had a minigame... what is it exactly ? ||I'm at my 100th escape and i guess i will never see it unless i start a new save.

frozen jolt
#

theres no such thing, unless you mean ||fishing spots, which you can also find in the final boss area||

atomic forge
#

talking about fishing spot, i want to sign a petition to have fishing bait on last merchant too, i'm quite pissed off by the ridiculously low chance of fishing spot on both final area and chaos' realm

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not mentioning the fact its since steam level 4 im looking for hermes feather's bless and yet never spwned, and nowdays im like 15 on each weapon. I want to change the charm but cannot all thanks to that ****** bless

potent matrix
#

what?

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steam level 4? hermes feathers bless? whats spawning? 15 what on each weapon? change what charm?
sorry but wtf are you talking about????

atomic forge
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consider i dont play it in english so im tryng to translate. im talking about the herme's bless that you can unlock by both having him in a certain mood or by equipping the feather charm he gives you, the one that gives you a chance to dodge if you finish area in certain amount of time. Steam level is.. pact level maybe? The thing that makes each run harder

potent matrix
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ahh, may i ask from which language you're translating? maybe i can understand that better ๐Ÿ˜…

atomic forge
#

italian

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anyway hermes has 2 main legendary skill right? one has no particular requirements, the other, the one in the bottom, has two way only to get. Having him in a i dont remember mood, not stygyan, the other is to have equipped the feather he gives you

potent matrix
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ok italian is sadly not a language i'm fluent in
if you mean the hermes legendary boons you can look in your upgraded codex because you need different mirror upgrades

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ah yeah, getting the hermes original cast upgrade ususally gives the legendary more of a chance to be available

atomic forge
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i've already all unlocked, dont think mirror has anything to do with that. And i got that charm since pact level 4, now im lvl 15 with all weapon and still no sign of that bless

potent matrix
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you need Infernal soul mirror upgrade for one of them

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and stygian soul for the other

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6th mirror upgrade

atomic forge
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u mean the mirror in the room right? as i sayd all mirror upgrades done, game finished by long time

potent matrix
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ye

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but you need one of them specifically while in the run

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can you tell me the itanlian name of the boon you're missing?

atomic forge
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mom need to run the game

potent matrix
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ok

atomic forge
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cattive notizie = bad news

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last bless, legendary rarity

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its either have automatic recharge as skill or the feather charm

potent matrix
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yeah you need the green 6th mirror upgrade active

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so if you're looking for it switch to that and play normally, try not to rely on the feather but get automatic recharge

atomic forge
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ive done that too ofc

potent matrix
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else you need to wait out

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and have the 2nd to last green upgrade in the mirror maxed

atomic forge
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as i sayd its since pact level 4 im looking for it, now im 15 with ll weapon.. feels like a joke

potent matrix
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yeah it's very unlucky with hermes boons

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i needed 100h for it ๐Ÿ˜…

atomic forge
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im tryng to get a shot from ingame of the mirror, cant post dunno why.. but its all maxed out

potent matrix
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you cant post pictures here

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else also try getting yarn of ariadne or eurydice's nectar before going into a hermes boon room

atomic forge
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dont have so much time to waste.. im still looking for chaos bless too. I mean i see no F logic to make me finish game, having like 50 ambrosia but still looking for achiev on chaos to get reward by 30 pointless keys

potent matrix
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it's just prophecies

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no need to get mad about it

atomic forge
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it generally gives me the other legendary one eheh. Like 8 time dropped the other legendary in the last 50 runs

potent matrix
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it's pure rng if you get them or not after getting what they need to become available

atomic forge
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well tbh its the only thing im doing actually. just to finish the game and greetz

potent matrix
frozen jolt
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please only send victory screenshots in #h1-victory-boasting! if you want to send a screenshot here, you can upload it to imgur or another image hosting website and share the link here

potent matrix
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already cleared it up

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just wanted to see it here for a second

warm quartz
uncut umbra
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hey guys, how do I deepen relationship with Patroculus?

neat crow
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Do you have Achilles also at locked heart?

marsh oasis
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and Nyx at 5 hearts or more

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at least i believe so

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Nyx might be for another favor

uncut umbra
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yes, both

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I also have favor of Nyx

marsh oasis
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you need to keep talking to patroclus when you can

uncut umbra
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eh

marsh oasis
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there's one line of text that triggers the whole thing

uncut umbra
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well, then I guess I am passing out on +35 health

modest vine
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Achilles and Patroculus are gonna take some time to unlock

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just keep talking to both

marsh oasis
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keep talking to Achilles and Patroclus and eventually Nyx

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but yeah that is one of the hardest favors in the game

uncut umbra
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especially since he is so damn rare...

marsh oasis
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while you wait to get Patroclus you can try and max out Charon

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you generally end up getting the requirements for charon without even trying

uncut umbra
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I think I already maxed out Charon

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it only took like 1 or 2 ambrosia and I cant offfer him more again

late onyx
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Okay I need opinions/confirmation/answers: is Dusa the Medusa, and if she isnโ€™t, then would Medusa be the same as every other gorgon or would she be different because of the story of how she became a gorgon

marsh dragon
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From what I understand in the codex, she's a variation of the other gorgons in Ashpodel :o

modest vine
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I don't think she is Medusa.

late onyx
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So then if someone wanted to design her in Hades (heh), Medusa could easily look different from the other Gorgons

modest vine
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Medusa was a woman transformed into this form but Idk if that matters. Also I think the face in Zag shield is Medusa I've seen something about her face being in a shield

marsh dragon
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Gorgons had various appearances throughout ancient Greece! Medusa herself depending on which BC/Mytho you follow was both a serpent and a bipedal woman.

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so really anything is possible for her

late onyx
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@modest vine I know which shield you mean! Youโ€™re thinking Athenaโ€™s shield, which is also based off the chaos shield

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@marsh dragon hell yeah

modest vine
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yup but I'm not sure if Athena uses this shield in supergiant universe I don't remember

marsh dragon
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Smol Brain: Dusa is bipedal
Big Brain: Dusa is a serpent

Galaxy Brain: Dusa can transform into both

late onyx
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I donโ€™t thiiiiiink so, I think sheโ€™s just got a normal shield

modest vine
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also Medusa is kinda mean I guess?

marsh dragon
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I've played Titan Quest and I can safely say Gorgons are Meanโ„ข๏ธ

late onyx
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@modest vine depends on the mythos! I usually go off the one where Athena transformed her because of stuff

modest vine
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Yup that's the main Myth. But I don't know if that's the one Supergiant follows

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I guess we could ask Perseus? He most likely knows

clever ruin
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Perseus isn't in the game tho

modest vine
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I know so I'll ask him if I find him and I'll let you know guys

clever ruin
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Could you also ask him

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If he saw my pet shark?

modest vine
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Sure

clever ruin
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Thx man

modest vine
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Might visit Theseus to tell him some things too

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I just realised my point of Medusa being mean and Dusa not is dumb

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since Asterius was the Minotaur

marsh dragon
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god I can't wait until I get to experience the theseus "bUT WHat ARE wE if NOT a TeaM ASTERIUS!!!" in the game

modest vine
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it is so fun to see Theseus break out of character

marsh dragon
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Theseus and Asterius are just secretly a married couple who have never experienced deep dive emotional breakdowns

modest vine
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I love how he always thinks Asterious gets mad at him or snobs him in his own and Asterious is like: WHAT ARE YOU EVEN SAYING... bro

marsh dragon
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"King I'm just complimenting him." "THE FIEND??? IN MY VICINITY???? HOW DARE YOU, ASTERIUS"

modest vine
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Respect Asterius btw

marsh dragon
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god theseus is such a pompous man and i love him

modest vine
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he's a big lad

marsh dragon
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love me that chill giant and egocentric tiny man dynamic

modest vine
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The game changed my opinion for both of them

marsh dragon
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honestly ye, like before that i only ever knew surface-level stuff about the minotaur

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but now.... I love him....

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I love all the characters so much ngl

glacial pulsar
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Last night I had my first opportunity to 'borrow' 300g from Charon. I was not prepared. At all.

marsh dragon
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oh NO

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my condolences I had that happen to me with only an Artemis boon in my Attack slot sdkjfnsk

glacial pulsar
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yeah i had a dash boon nothin gmore

modest vine
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don't worry no one was...

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what a traumatic experience

glacial pulsar
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i did win at least

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but used all 3 lives

marsh dragon
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eyy nice

modest vine
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yeah me too I won first time but I lost all of my dd's and I was so shocked lol

slender walrus
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first time I borrowed from Charon

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I did so

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on the first floor

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on the first shop

modest vine
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here's another character you wouldn't expect to be lovely

slender walrus
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needless to say, that ended poorly

glacial pulsar
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It was a super cool fight

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I was more entertained than paying attention to winning

slender walrus
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he is really not that bad if you just religiously dash to his back

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but yeah first time I did not know that

modest vine
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He's the most readable boss

slender walrus
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and I took a paddle to the face

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repeatedly

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nah that is still Theseus

modest vine
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oh yeah I forgot by playing e3 too much

marsh dragon
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i was actually curious to see what'd happen if i beat story mode without getting Orpheus/Eurydice together, like maybe there'd be only Eurydice singing in the surface or something. :0 turns out it's like a "memory" of them singing together, and Orpheus later tells you he won't be singing it for a long while.
(((now i theorize the reason orpheus is gone at times is probably to sing secretly))

slender walrus
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you had better bring them together quickly now

modest vine
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or maybe he just walks around thinking about suiciding even though he is dead

slender walrus
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KianaThinking maybe I should go back to Tartarus

marsh dragon
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oh definitely, I always thought Zag would be more centric to getting his mom back and the friendship aspects were just second priority to him.

((which is an excuse for me to see what Persephone will do when she got back before everyone's bonds got unlocked. I WANT HER TO BE part of his life and friendship bonds!!!!)))

slender walrus
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that happened with me more or less naturally

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well except for Nyx and Orpheus

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but how could I not be excited about getting the two coolest characters back on speaking terms?

marsh dragon
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Oh definitely also I turned on God Mode because I am in fact, a baby when it comes to Rogue-Likes sdjkasdkj

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I have started the Patrochilles quest tho!!!

slender walrus
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Awesome! It is good to pay your mentor back at last

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Their devotion, absolute

modest vine
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no worries Roguelike is the hardest genre

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or maybe Souls?

slender walrus
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technically this is a roguelite

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...I'll see myself out

marsh dragon
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eyyyy

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finger guns

modest vine
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yes for it's reasons it's easier than other roguelikes/lites but it's still hard

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aight time to play

slender walrus
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Whatever even if it wasn't, games are meant to be enjoyed

marsh dragon
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tbh even with god mode on, it's still going to be more strategic when you get further into the punishment pacts and I find that cool

slender walrus
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If it is at a reduced difficulty MonikaShrug

marsh dragon
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I've still yet to do Extreme Measures and I Fear

slender walrus
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Whatever man, not everyone enjoys suffering through the insurmountable

solemn pewter
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The god mode is a really cool way to keep the experience consistent while making it more accessible honestly genius tier

marsh dragon
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yessss

solemn pewter
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Thematically consistent

slender walrus
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EM is not that bad

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Extremer measures on the other hand

glacial pulsar
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This game is unique - my wife loves watching me play it on couch. She even downloaded the sound track. Last time that happened was Zelda

marsh dragon
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i just love the story so much ugh

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i haven't read the entire codex yet but i want to

tiny haven
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Who has better thighs Artemis or Dio?

modest vine
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Artemis

potent matrix
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artemis has nice waist-thigh proportions tho ngl

marsh dragon
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im so slow I thought you did a Jojo reference instead of Dionysus

potent matrix
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gotta love standing right next to dusa and meg in the lounge and listen to dusa whispering something ominous before meg just goes "what???"

marsh dragon
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I finally got to start talking to Bouldy

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I love this boulder so much dskjfnkj

solid wyvern
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hey guys I just talked to Dusa after maxing her hearts and she asked if I wanted to get back all the Ambrosa gifted to her. I chose no but I was wondering what happens if I choose yes?

thorny jacinth
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you get all 10 of them back and nothing bad happens, zagreus being as charismatic and pro at speaking as he is handles it like a champ

potent matrix
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nothing, you just get it back

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well since zag is also dio he's basically the god of charisma ;)

solid wyvern
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Damn it, I made a mistake then. ๐Ÿ˜

thorny jacinth
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pff

potent matrix
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not a mistake, you're just good-hearted for letting her keep it :D

solid wyvern
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she said she wanted to be friends forever then paddle back. Idk what is their relationship btw

potent matrix
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if you ever consider doing a new savefile you'll know the possibilities

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they're friends

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dusa isnt interested in romance so it's her way of "romance"

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goddamnit this game is great

solid wyvern
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hah. Damn I was hoping she would change her mind eventually

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I prefer Dusa more than Meg

solemn pewter
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General spoilers for a lot of storylines below since I don't have people to talk about it with

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||Was anyone else surprised by how many of the subplots are resolved by having exes get back together? I appreciate it with Than/Meg because Zagreus has genuinely changed throughout the game, but I was a bit disappointed that Hades, Orpheus, and Patroclus just sort of stew in their misery before Zagreus fixes everything by getting their old romance back.||

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I bring this up because I can't tell if I'm seeing something or projecting really hard

plush fox
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To get the shield hidden aspect, do I need to have unlocked Aspect or Guan Yu or just have revealed it?

open finch
# solemn pewter ||Was anyone else surprised by how many of the subplots are resolved by having e...

Well for Hades, ||he didn't know how to solve the Persephone situation, he was concerned about Demeter finding out (especially considering she sent the world into a semi-permanent Winter upon discovering that Persephone was missing), and chances are it was Zagreus' good relationship with Demeter that dampened her anger-not to mention Persephone disliked being in the Underworld, Hades weighed the consequences from what he knew and it just didn't seem worth it|| Patroclus ||straight up didn't know where Achilles was, and Achilles couldn't see any way of getting past his contract and didn't think it was appropriate to ask|| and for Orpheus ||in the mythos, it was his actions that caused Eurydice to become trapped in the Underworld, and he beat himself up for it (not to mention she was not happy at first about Zagreus mentioning him)||

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If it weren't for Zagreus ||Persephone admits she wouldn't have come back||, and ||Patroclus would have never known what became of Achilles|| and ||Orpheus probably would never be released from Tartarus in the first place||

cloud geode
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actually all the SG have a common thread of loss and longing for something or something like that
The protagonists all miss something and long for something, and sometimes the ending puts a twist on their want for that thing

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And in general i think Hades' main theme is reunion
rebirth, determination and reunion

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and i guess bonds and finding your place

solemn pewter
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I think that phrasing can help me better explain my feeling. There are parts of the story focused on reunion and coming together that I might have preferred to have a focus on determination and becoming something new. ||Zagreus reunites with Persephone, but it's the process of getting to that reunion that actually improves his life. I wish a similar process could have occurred with Patroclus and Orpheus where, prior to getting what they want, they start to change and focus themselves on a change so that it doesn't feel like the key to happiness is getting what you desire. I really love Hypnos' story for this because it's about him refocusing on the things he really enjoys.||

zealous wind
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With Zagโ€™s potential status of god of blood it does fit pretty well, what with blood ties and bonds being a thing

solemn pewter
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I really like how much more he talks about love as the story progresses.

cloud geode
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If you want maybe there's a bit of what you're saying in ||Achilles'|| case? ||The whole "risk it all" stuff. He learns to take his own advice that "fear is for the weak", takes matter into his own hands and decides that yes, he wants to see his lover again, whatever it takes||

cloud geode
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but otherwise i got what you're saying

open finch
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that's assuming dramatic sad boi monologues don't get you what you want in life

spark nymph
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||while it does lead to patroclus and achilles getting what they want, i feel it still matters that it involves them changing their perspectives||

solemn pewter
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I didn't really think about it like that, but y'all are right

cloud geode
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||he literally got off his ass, he got up lmao||

solemn pewter
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Reaching out to someone like that requires a lot out of a person too

cloud geode
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||also Eurydice and Orpheus? Orpheus puts remorse aside in favor of accepting his wife's forgivness, Eurydice finds out she really can't let go of Orpheus even after finding herself again and starting a new life||
||She probably was a bit salty about living in his shadow, but shining with your own light doesn't cancel the possibility of also belonging to someone||

open finch
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It's Theseus thesis-writing time shadesmile

potent matrix
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at least ||orpheus was a great hubby legitemately trying to make people understand that eurydice is equal to him, if not even more||

cloud geode
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||idk maybe dying and going through everything that happened kinda helped their relationship. Would not suggest doing that in real life, just book a therapist, but you know, who's a better therapist than the alleged god of blood (bonds) and life?||

spark nymph
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||even theseus and asterius experience a change of perspective that improves their afterlives, namely when they become official boyfriends (they were unofficially boyfriends the whole time but acknowledgment of the relationship is an upgrade)||

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burgerking = best ship

somber estuary
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||After concluding the Asterius plotlines I finally understood Theseus and how he is like tsun-prime.||

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||Whereas Asterius is just prime grade! Hahaha||

spark nymph
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||i headcanon that theseus is playing up his heel personality so that zagreus wont be star-struck and get chopped down in 5 seconds||

solemn pewter
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lmao

cloud geode
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hell even the furies sisters agree on a truce to trash Zag's ass
Like Eldena Doublecast says: "there's no stronger bond than the one between two three women who are sick of a man's bullpoop"

solemn pewter
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||Forming a union to depose the Boss' son||

smoky plinth
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Oh my God, i just got asked by Dionysus to tell Orpheus that tale about Zagreus and him having a connection, and at first I was like "Okay? what kind of Prank is that?"

Old Mythology about Mycenaean Greece (Ancient Greece before ancient Greece) Syncrotize Zagreus with Dionysus, some saying their the same, some saying Zagreus turned into Dionysus.

I love nerdy stuff like this!!!!

spark nymph
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i'm not sure they apply quite as much ||because if you turn the heat back down at least one or possibly two of them thanks you for not making them have to show up in the same chamber||

somber estuary
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||Also, Zag and Meg officially don't "get back together" they agree to a different sort of mutually beneficial relationship that combines work with leisure.||

cloud geode
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that's why it's a truce, a temporary one
they hate eachother's guts but they want to massacre Zag even more

potent matrix
marsh dragon
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||I love the headcanon of Theseus actually knowing who Zagreus is, but he's just as big of a performer on stage as he is a warrior that he's just acting it out to rile the enemy up more||

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||a true heel wrestler to his core||

cloud geode
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Hades is full to the brim with tiny little references as the joke one

potent matrix
somber estuary
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My favorite line of Theseus is ||Oh why is Death on HIS side!?||

cloud geode
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i too think they don't actually hate eachother deep down. They're just sisters who fight, but that's taken to the extreme with their very antagonistic and abrasive personalities
but i absolutely think that were one in danger the other would immediately help her
To then follow with a "hmpf, be careful next time" kind of thing

solemn pewter
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I think it's the kind of family anger that a lot of Greek gods have. Heated, but still secondary to their connection

potent matrix
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they are so protective of her it's really cute

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and well if tis hates them, we wont ever know

cloud geode
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it's been a while since i played the game so i'm not very clear on stuff like this but good to know

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but yeah now that i think about it meg is more distant from tisi than annoyed by her
it's like "oh yeah, her. Never see her, not like i care or anything yes she does a bit"

potent matrix
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after zag starts ||teaching tis words, megs care really shows in her talking about how "tis had it the worst out of them" and that even if zag is trying he shouldnt count on getting anywhere since meg also tried|| if i remember correctly

cloud geode
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ah, i still haven't gotten to that point
but still i'm glad they're just tsunderes like the family tradition says and they don't actually hate hate eachother

potent matrix
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idk about alecto tho

open finch
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I think Alecto just has a super strong personality and that kinda makes it hard for people to get close

potent matrix
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maybe it's her fury rage but she really is fuelled on all the hate bs

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well alecto is the fury sister who seeks out people for commiting mortal crimes out of anger and hate

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so it does really make sense with her background

solemn pewter
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Now I just wanna give Alecto some time off to recuperate

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and now I want to see all the fury sisters on vacation together

potent matrix
solemn pewter
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I they they'd settle on mountains because it's where tis wants to go

potent matrix
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aww, anything for the most traumatized baby <3

calm drum
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I thought tiss was in charge of punishing murderers and hate crimes

potent matrix
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murder; hate crimes are alecto's work of field

cloud geode
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i realized it makes sense that Tis would be the busiest one, she punishes just murders in general while the other two focus on more specific things like passions and infidelity
Alecto and Meg get the ones they are assigned to, Tisi gets everyone

open finch
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Tiz wants a spa day so she can sleep and keep her nails fresh

potent ridge
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I have a problem gifting Hades Nekta to get his keepsake. He has a lock heart (gave him one early in the playthrough), I already got mother back in the underworld. Why canยดt i get him.

calm drum
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Keep talking to him

marsh dragon
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father is a stubborn man who needs to realize his feelings

potent ridge
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hahaha

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ok

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So I still can do it?

royal urchin
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yes but it takes some time!

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so just do a few runs and be patient

warm eagle
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Wait, I'm curious, ||since non-greek deities are canon in Hades with Lucifer and Rama being acknowledged, does the game's lore address how the deities coexist? Or do the weapons gain aspects from like alternate realities of the weapons where those deities exist and wield the weapon||

drifting citrus
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there was an answer to this in a dev q&a, one sec