#h1-story-discussion
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Now I kinda wanna look up if holding certain items trigger dialogue from different characters
The Braid of Atlas could trigger something from one of the olympians, but beats me which one.
Atlas is a god like the Olympians and not a god like Zagreus, is he?
Wasn't he a titan?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I just remember Atlas as the guy who held up the world, thanks Eurydice
Who's Atlas related to also?
Has Satyr Sack
Hmmm...I can get more gold...but it's in a miniboss room, I'm a greedy boi
Says "Screwit," goes in
Gets through pretty much unscathed
IM A GREEDYBOII
yeah Atlas is the titan who holds up the world
@fathom current The most, and arguably only, notable child of Atlas was Calypso. She quite literally does nothing wrong, so the gods give her points for that, but because she's Atlas's daughter they still imprisoned her to live alone on an island. The island is a great place, in honesty, but she was also cursed to forever be alone.
The only exception to that was a bittersweet one- the island can only be found by men adrift at sea who, ultimately, have something more important to them that they will eventually leave her for. She's described as a good person and practically perfect. The men that wash up there usually even fall in love with her for a time. Ultimately, though, it's never enough to keep the heroes from eventually leaving to continue whatever quest they were on.
It does kind of mirror Eurydice, now that you mention it. A girl alone on an island, she is literally a Muse, so she's stereotypically perfect; enough to be a living personification of artistic inspiration. Her story also involves a famous Greek hero, love, and his eventual but unintended betrayal and heartbreak.
Huh. Neat.
Also, myths about Atlas' "death" is also confusing. He's definitely alive when Heracles doing his labors, but was said to be turnt to stone by Perseus - who happens to be Heracles' great-grandfather ugh/
Gods are jerks. There, I said it.
yeah thats the point of mythology
the greek pantheon in particular is known for being fickle and petty over the most inane things
The confusing part is that the main reason why Perseus turnt him to stone in the first place is because Atlas didn't trust any hero after Heracles' (counter) trickery and turnt Perseus away.
Like, "Your great grandson tricked me before, so you better shoo!"
It should be more like: um... Perseus, aren't you supposed to be... dead from falling out of the sky ages ago?! And that Gorgon head is supposed to be on Athena's shield, not right in front of my Titan face right now!
Hello
Prometheus was nice enough and look how he ended
I think the rest got the message perfectly
Oh yeah, I almost forgot that Atlas was Prometheus' brother.
Than actually smiled during one of his trials. Finally!
Zag should get into poetry for his friends and love interests <:
Roses are Red, Violence is blue. You're the God of Death and I love you. -Zag
zag starting poetry: roses are dead,
hsjfjfjgkf
Tisiphone, writing a haiku:
Murder? Murderer.
Murderer... murrrr... murderer.
Mur... murder? Murder!
Bouldy, writing a sonnet:
...
Don't forget the heart drawings of Zag being felled in her room
Let's see...now for Alecto thinks
Roses are red, blood is too, don't mess with me or it'll be the end of you
Roses are red.
Ugly mortal blood is red.
If you try to escape
I'll whip you till you're dead.
Okay, but would Meg nae nae
"You fool, I'm actually into that" -Zagreus, probably
I need to spend some time in the pits of Tartarus to cleanse this from my mind
meg writing a limerick:
there once was a woman named meg
who fought zag to death on the reg
hes my ex and im bitter
but i'd reconsider
with good enough writing from greg
claps
Meta
:3
Someone should do Theseus
Meg had an ex?
An Ode to Theseus, By Theseus
Theseus Narcissus
Noooo one fights like Gaston Theseus
Sadly his name is too long to fit into the Gaston song
To me myself and I, we say...Thine blessings are yet so sad to say >:
It would otherwise be perfect
Or call him Thesie
Nah, too cutesy
Just imagine it's his mother singing it
Not for his Miles Gloriosus complex
Could always set the song to Hypnos
No one fights like Hypnos
(which would probably actually be true enough lol)
Blursed concept: Orpheus dancing the can-can
Cerberus dancing the can-can
No, because the song associated with it is actually from a parody of the Orpheus myth, I mean.
T o m o r r o w
For the memes
It'd be amusing if in the temple, Cerbie is dancing in place
U g h

I filled Meg's hearts all the way long before I filled even one heart for Than... And yet I still haven't been able to give Meg Ambrosia
Bouldy for the king 👑
You give all the ambrosia to bouldy, it's only way to make him believe you
Make you believe me about what?
Make you believe in yourself
Maybe you don't believe in yourself, then just believe in Bouldy. And his belief in you.
What if......
Bouldy is in fact Dusa's ex that she accidentally petrified?
He was as bodyless as she
Believe in the Bouldy that believes in you!
Huh. I've never beaten a zone and had Hades not say anything
to think of it.. Zag looks somewhat like Kamina.. especially with this haircut
simple clothes, some red here and there, edgy and never gives up
Someone put Gurren Lagann shades on Zag
this is reminding me that I never finished Gurren Lagann
i dropped at like 10 episodes from the ending of s3
to think of it, i seldom finish anything
hate that feeling when it's all over, story is told and there is nothing left
I thought Gurren Lagann only had the one season
simple clothes, some red here and there, edgy and never gives up
both of them came from underworld btw lol
I have seen on reddit Zagreus doing jojo pose. Now I need him drilling to ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER.
please don't send us back to 2006 😔
i'm ok with going back to 2006
Just bet on sports event
Is Guan Yu a real guy or a game character?
Guan Yu was a legit person
What's his story?
He was a major player in the Three Kingdoms period of Ancient China.
I did not know you could do the nasty with Meg multiple times.
That was kinda something.
He was a general or something.
Guandi, Chinese god of war whose immense popularity with the common people rests on the firm belief that his control over evil spirits is so great that even actors who play his part in dramas share his power over demons. Guandi is not only a natural favourite of soldiers but h...
A weapon from Meso-America Myths could be interesting...With some gods thirsty for bloods
Hey, is anyone having problems with the Gift of Music quest?
Zagreus can play quite well now, but the quest doesn't seem to be clearing.
It took me a while after that point for it to clear as well, I just kept playing it and it eventually cleared
Maybe few more runs and it will unlock a new dialogue with Orpheus once a run completed successfully
If they keep making the last aspects be from other cultures around that time period we might get something egyptian themed! that'd be cool
Maybe something from south america?
If so, Brazil or Mexico will be picked since those are the only top picked countries when it comes to Latin America
Macuahuitl aspect sword though
maybe? I'd think they'd choose something older since this is like, a couple thousand years ago. I don't know how much of america's history was destroyed post colonialism so something in that timeframe might just not be something they'd be comfortable doing
tooth sword tooth sword
TOOTH SWORD
Tooth sword?
oh man like 12 more hours
Tooth sword
Hindu myths can provide nice weapons as well...
For the sword, a Kusanagi aspect could be interesting. Not easy, for the SGG team to find a weapon and an aspect from another culture / mythos with relevant and different gameplay
@undone reef what kind of weapons are you referring to?
@cosmic wind The mace, the wheel (or disc) or the daggers (I'll pass on the spelling of the real name in Indians languages since there are many names)
But The wheel would be similar to the shield. It could be an aspect of the shield though.
The mace is interesting as it us very different from other weapons. It could have an Herakles aspect
Hmm I wouldn't mind seeing the gada, but I don't think that's plausible
The daggers (the name is Katar, popularized by Assassin's Creed) would be nice but how to translate that into gameplay in a game such as Hades, which is very similar to a Shoot Them Up or A twin Stick Shooter.
The Katar could be very nice
I was sad there is no Medusa aspect for the Shield with a turning into stone thing... (Saint Seiya...nostalgia)
For the sword, or a Katana / saber aspect focusing on slashing or a Fleuret (like fencing) aspect focusing on piking
Man that's...Hmm that would be interesting
But, yeah...easy to have ideas...But then how it would relevant to the lore and gameplay
I'd love to see what they come up with, can't say I can see how they'd relate to lore
Ah yeah
Nemesis looks kinda eastern stylish
Guan Yu is a kind of god of war / justice so his weapon fits the lore
So I doubt there will be katana or similar
A whip...we need a whip. I like whips
Euh, I meant...as a weapon in game (Dead Cells or Castlevania)
KUSARIGAMA
Suuure. (I really like Electric Whips in Dead Cells. I want to like Valmont's, but I think I need to start using less Mushroom Boi and more Bear Trap)
Long I didn't play Dead Cells. I bought the new DLC just to support that French studio who did a game of very high quality. I had the game from Early Access anyway.
My only concern is actually the Metroidvania aspect should be rogue lite as well. The runes should be discovered during a run and lost afterward.
I feel like Dead Cells is a rapid enough pace that keeping runes over runs is fine in order to keep route diversity.
But this is getting #off-topic-discussion if you wanna keep discussing.
@atomic forge Nah, let's be back on Hades.
How many hours until update release?
9 or more hours
11am pst?
Did they say something about 11am? I know people were saying noon pst last update
why are you counting that bro
Actually today is Mar10 day.
when dusa says she loves you
💚
(As a friend)
Dusa's great and all, but they really need to change how her story arc is portrayed if they're going to do the platonic end. Maybe don't have her bursting into hearts whenever Zag shows up (and ONLY when he shows up), and just have her be generally nervous. Like, why is it that the two characters we can bang act like jerks, but the one who literally has every part of their story saying that they have a crush suddenly end up going "No I only see you in a platonic light"
There's not even any progression to her story. Not even a "I had a crush on you, but it was just a crush"
i interpreted it as dusa didn't know how to place her feelings? like she knew she cared a lot for zag but didn't really understand that what she feels for him isn't the same thing that meg/than feel for zag 🤔 and coming to the understanding that her feelings are platonic rather than romantic is the entire point of the arc from what i read it as
Than's story is more of the "I don't know what to do with my feelings" story. Dusa literally bursts into romantic hearts whenever she sees Zag. If her story was her trying to place her feelings, her story would reflect that. Instead, we have Bioshock Infinite syndrome, where it seems like two entirely different stories were written for one character, and rather than decide on one, they kept half of each.
Does she mention her crush? From what I recall, she's just like "Zag nah I don't want to bang you sorry"
I got more of the vibe that she realized that her work is more important and needed to keep that a priority. She didn't want the feelings ever to get in the way of work.
But does she ever mention that? It seems like she just tries to communicate that she only feels for him platonically and never felt anything else for him.
Dusa: I do have feelings for you, silly! That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you, it’s just…it’s just…
Zagreus: It’s just what…? Whatever it is, it’s OK. You can be yourself with me, Dusa. I promise.
Dusa: I’m glad you put it that way. I…I’m not looking for an intimate relationship. You’re the kindest soul in this whole House. And I have learned so much from you! But, when I really think about my feelings…I’m just, not attracted to you, in that way. I’m sorry. You’re a really nice guy!
Zagreus: Oh, hahaha, look, there’s nothing to apologize for, not at all. In fact…all this is a relief. I’ve learned a lot from you, too, and I cherish our friendship for what it is. Do you…do you think that we could still be friends? Or, is it better that you didn’t see me anymore…?
Dusa: Don’t say that! Though, I was going to ask you the same thing. I’d really like it if you’d be my friend! Though, my career comes first, so…I don’t want you doing any special favors, promise me? I need to see how far I can get on my own.
this sounds perfectly reasonable to me, tbh
She mentions both, but she does mention first that she isnt attracred in that way.
I guess you are right in that sense
"Not attracted to you in that way" Yeah, that's certainly what it seems like when she bursts into romantic hearts whenever she sees Zag
Does she do that after that encounter? I don't believe so.
That's the part that I find frustrating. Why have her portrayed one way and then go "Nope that never happened!".
I mean, because people often don't understand their feelings until later?
That sounds like a thing that people do?

That's my thoughts.
it do, in fact, be like that sometimes.
"I'm not attracted to you" suggests she never was, when in fact she definitely was for most of her storyline. That's how I see it, anyway.
The infatuation of the prince taking notice of you when you thought you were just above the shades in the house, that would be nervewracking for me, certainly.
In looking for those lines. I found this :https://hades-dialogue.tumblr.com/post/190778284122/text-only-version-script-under-the-cutmore
just thought someone might like it.
It's not just "I'm not attracted to you". It's, "When I really think about my feelings, I'm just not attracted to you in that way"
Suggesting that she had never thought too hard about it before and found out after the fact
That's portrayed by her freaking out and bailing after every interaction. The hearts part equates to attraction, but she says she wasn't attracted to him at all. Those don't match up.
Her "I don't like you like that" speech should have included "I don't feel about you the way I thought I did" instead of implying she never was attracted to him.
Fair, penguins. I just think it could have been expressed in a better way.
That's exactly what she says??
The hearts merely indicate she had a crush, not that she really understood what it meant to her long term
It's a very real thing for people to think they like someone and later find out they only admired them as something else
She never admits that she thought one thing and now thinks something else though. That line implies that she never found him attractive, or at best never really knew what she felt. But her portrayal suggests something different up until that point.
I mean, I -am- salty that she isn't really romanceable when there are two jerkasses that are romanceable... but I'd be fine with this route if it had better writing.
I mean they don’t stay jerks for long...
That's kind of my point haha
Meg makes the most sense, as she's a bitter ex. But Than is just this salty af jerk that only is nice to you after you shower him with gifts.
Are we going to have a romanceable character eventually that we actually have a normal progression with? Someone who doesn't hate us, and we grow closer with over time? Or even a platonic friendship that starts out platonic.
I don't count Sis and Skelly, because their bonds don't have that feel. They don't have the emotional depth that a "romance" path would have
If you spent all day literally killing people you would be a jerk too
I think with than too he was also angry with zag at the time
Every time I start a run: Oh boy here I go killing!
Hence his jerky attitude
Honestly if someone I'd known, been around, and taken care of since they were a baby decided to leave without so much as a goodbye, I would be salty af too
Since its implied they had a close bond before zag started his escapes without telling him
^
Yeah i kinda understand thanatos's jerkiness in that case bc he even says later it was because he felt betrayed and angry
Which, fair
Zag himself even admits that he handled thanatos badly and should have told him that he planned to leave - or at least have said goodbye
Tbh i'm a sucker for those kind of relationships bc i love seeing how they navigate those kind of hurdles
Did Than take care of Zag when he was a baby? It seemed implied that they were both the same age, more or less.
Take care of in the same way a childhood friend would
The whole point of overseeing relationships is that they have to go through some hurdles atleast.
Some of Than's attitude is reasonable, some of Meg's might be reasonable depending on what happened in their past relationship. But they both were undeniably jerks, more so than they should have been.
I mean, from their perspective zag is just up and abandoning them, so lashing out from perceiving that betrayal is only natural
They slowly come around and support him in their own ways, but their relationships are always gonna have tension because of the whole zag running away from home theme
But at this point its probs a personal preference thing with how you deem their jerkiness reasonable in this situation
Maybe they overreacted, but if you can at least understand why, then it's p realistic. People usually don't immediately sit down and have a chat after they feel they've been betrayed. People get angry and people act unreasonably. I think it's nice when characters are written like real people.
^
Plus, it's Greek Mythology, where exactly no one besides Dionysus has chill
Yeah we're lucky no one was turned into a tree or an animal or something
I hear Calypso is p nice
The one doomed to forever be alone on an island?
Mhmm
Was that actually enforced by a godly curse, or was it just that the people who visited her were too self-absorbed to consider, you know, taking her off the damn island?
can someone tell me when the heat unlocks?
Beat the game i think
After the first time you beat the FINAL BOSS
So guys. That joke about misreading Thanatos as Thanos...
Imagine Than looking at your purse with 1.5k obols in it and just saying "All that for a drop of blood."
I was preparing for some very cursed art
Thanatos got the infinity guantlet, snapped his fingers, and 50%ish of his name got dusted.
That's how we got Thanos
That ish is doing a lot of work
Well there is that cursed edit buried somewhere in #fan-works ...
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/456936596227358720/684796450411905024/thann.png did you mean this one?
Thanks for bringing that back, I missed it so so much
mfw people rag about how meg and than act towards zag for his deciding to escape but never factor hades, their literal employer into it. not only personally feeling betrayed, but of course they're going to be testy when their own boss is pissy over zag's actions and the consequences have a real possibility of coming down on them as well
everyone is too busy trying to explain how these characters react in terms of how normal humans would act when they are, yknow, not humans and inherently cannot respond to things in a way we would consider normal and healthy. it's pointed out multiple times in game, "we're not mortal, we don't adhere to mortal standards"
zag behaves the most human which is probably related to his blood, figuratively and literally.
Even then, he doesn't act like the average human...
He doesn't
finally though, someone said it
By the way, there's this really... neat thing I just noticed.
In one Hades flashback, Zag responds "You don't need me, and I don't need you."
When you beat Hades, sometimes he says "You have only me, and I have only you"...
Neat parallel
Ohh that is p neat
Ooh I've never seen that one before
I still think that Than’s constant teleporting away from Zag is unacceptable garbage.
It's ok when Protoman does it
Patch when
Sometime this afternoon PST
What is this, Warframe? :p
Any speculations on the patch's silhouette?
nyx.
Ooh, I like that.
I've managed to convince myself it's Nyx - but nothing is confirmed so I'm trying to not get disappointed if it's not her hahah
Felis is saying to nyx the discussion
When is Nyx?
Everyone asks when is the update but no one wants to know how is the update. It has feelings too
Why is update?
"I can't believe I'm in my mid 20s and feeling this excited about a video game update"
Yeah but like... it's like I'm a kid again and xmas is tomorrow lol
I feel like that's a pretty normal feeling for someone in their mid 20s anyway
Nooo we're supposed to be boring adults, didn't you get the memo? smh
ah dang it you're right
I'm gonna have to be out of this chat today since I won't be home til long after the update drops
And I'm hype for the new weapon and want it to be a surprise
So good luck everyone
Are we going to have a romanceable character eventually that we actually have a normal progression with? Someone who doesn't hate us, and we grow closer with over time? Or even a platonic friendship that starts out platonic.
My friend wanted to see exactly that with Leuce. They can start really as strangers to each other, then know each other better, realize that they have similar fate to be stuck here against their will.. and eventually become really close
since Leuce didn't have a chance to live a life normally, and may be even still alive at the moment
never loved someone yet, and never been loved
except for Hades, but we know how good he is at loving and caring (not that good)
well.. there is a problem that some people do want to be loved, but from some overwhelming circumstance never get a chance to meet someone who will be there for them
guess that would be a deep story to be told
TFW we will never be able to romance the cook
As he feed us and makes sure we are healthy
now im imagining the cook giving baby zag vitamin gummis
needs those vit d gummis since no sunlight
the update is here Pog
yup updating the game atm
2.2gb Im really feeling it
Just sayin' I called arthur/excalibur
Oh my gods, I was gonna ask if something as silly as an Arthur aspect could happen but then it DID
Nothing is out of reach!
Karna aspect when?
Are we gonna have a bunch of people raging about pandering to British people now like we did last time?
"+ Expanded Story: hours of added narrative featuring Nyx, Chaos, Artemis, Zeus, and more" can we now progress the artemis relationship further???? 
@graceful ginkgo meh, Greg literally mentioned it 2 updates ago
did he?
Yup, way before GY even a thing
source?
QnA channel right on Discord, mate
you could have just let me have that 😡
Hehehe
Reuniting?! Ohhhh boy here we go
does it matter a whole lot what aspects you go for? Since its hard to get get titan blood it seems don't want to waist it
Twin
Fists
Twin
fists
Twin
Fists
Nyx is cuter than I thought.
double nova buff 👌
Story progression with Chaos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YihXPvZHcTQ
look at this TRAILER they made
Hades is a god-like rogue-like dungeon crawler from the creators of Bastion and Transistor. Come take a tour through the Nighty Night update, and play now in Early Access on Steam (http://bit.ly/hadessteam) and the Epic Games Store (http://bit.ly/hadesegs).
the silhouette in the june update teaser

Nyx looks funny
Holy hell Nyx
yas queen slay me
CHARON????
New Charon confirmed
Charon in June?!
She be kinda looking like Bayo
Charon in June.
Or black haired Jeanne
my bet is on Charon
the breathing charon sound made me laugh
Still, the fact that I would very much like her to step on me persist
My birthday is in June so I might as well consider the update a present.
not subtle
literally a paddle/torch for the boat he got right there.
Mood @pliant hinge
I know Nyx is beautiful but let's try to still keep it appropriate folks. 😄
can finally go behind that door though!
oh my god Charon Art coming UP
Than has his mother's eyes.
Just have Charon with gold on his chesticles. Lmao
Does Zag look more swole in this trailer art o.O
Zag has been lifting those weights lol
Probably
The godly side profile
hes getting beefy
They come with the fists
he hit up the gym to finally wield the claws
@pliant hinge Agree
aspect of arthur... the tiny vermin of evil... me thinks monty python ref
the killer rabbit?
does hades smell of elderberries?
Pretty fitting that Nyx is a ||MILF||
Yes lmao, Monty Python update
Was that Charon Shilouette
people so far feel like it is Charon lol
Yeah it's 100% Charon
are there diff aspects on the gloves?
I guess?
Yes there are
Haven't new weapons always come with three aspects?
yeaa
Talos and Demeter
She just beat them to death
that makes me wonder what kind of combos you can do with demeter and dio stuff
the attack on the claws looks insane
ORA
Kenshiro
Delays damage of an uninterrupted combo, and applies up to a 5x multiplier based on number of hits.
That ignores armor.
New Nyx art is 🔥
Aspect of Muhammad Ali
Aspect of SUTA PRATINUM ZA WARUDO
the special stops all enemies from moving until you land a hit on one.
WAIT that would be a SICK call power
Chronos Call
Call of Kronos? 👀
Time Stop aid?
Could be Hermes’ aid and it’s actually just Zag going so fast it looks like time has stopped
Now I just need to infiltrate SGG developement team and make Kronus boons a thing
I kinda wouldn't mind knowing if Nyx had a sister who lives on Olympus
who is essentially "Light/Day"
Theia? Hemera?
Pretty sure “Night” came before “Day”
But Supergiant makes it sound like Theia is unrelated to Nyx Google says Nyx’s kid Hemera represented Day /shrug
Wait whats Helios then?
Don't you all remember When King Arthur Obtained The World to stop the Saxon Invaders in their tracks?
The sun
Helios, the Sun, and Selene, the Moon. Though I've been informed that Artemis, I think, also could represnet the moon, since she has the crescent necklace and such.
wait who IS Ixion then, since Hades talks about us having only seen Ixion's light
Also the name I saw when I looked up things related to Nyx and the myth of Nyx, the names I came across for Light/Day was Himeria or something like that.
And Aeron
If such a thing was worked in, Himeria would be a person, like Nyx, and Aeron would be like Erebus.
How do I get the new weapon and aspects? Oo
Patch note says you need to talk to Nyx to get Arthur’s aspect
And you get the twin fists when you have every other weapon unlocked
whats with these final aspects and being slower than Boldy
I have everything unlocked
Has your game updated?
gonna be die, this arthus aspect is not my cup of tea
What is the Greek translation of "you are already dead"?
that's Than's line already
@fast idol ixion would be a sort of sun that only shows up in the underworld. By myth, he was a dude that tried to seduce Hera, and Zeus bound him to a flaming wheel as punishment
but I like playing slow and defensively
@deep spoke (not google) says that it's "eίsai ίdi nekrόs"
I’m sorry? The first boon I get in my run is one that gives me more fishing spots...
What?
wait, there's boons for fishing now? I skimmed through those patch notes too fast.
lol
Is it a Poseidon boon?
Yes lol
I got it on my first
Was the only option too
Mind you when I say first, I mean first of the patch
the gloves feel very strong
No Choice run. You now get all the fishies
and wow, the range on that special
Weirdly, "more fishing points" sounds like it should be an Artemis+Poseidon duo boon.
I love the sound effect of the new sword aspect
w/ dialogue along the lines of "I'm not much of a fisher but I support any kinda hunt. Even if it's in my (uncle?)'s place"
I like how Zagreus now states if he a fish is nearby, too. Helps me not miss them.
pretty sure he did this before
What is the laser between the spreaders in the trailer?
Did anyone encounter that yet?
kinda not crazy about artemis hearts being unlocked and her gift dialogue being basically a 180 from her previous heart dialogue
There are no brimstones; but there is a laser between the spreaders in at 1:05 in trailer
it's a purple laser; so i assume it's an enemy thing.
nvm; + Linker: links to other foes via a continuous beam that damages you
for the new death defiance, is a chamber a floor or a room
best aspect for the new weapon?
its been 15 minutes; i doubt anyone can say at this point.
Linkers sound like Cheerleaders except the beam hurts rather than just shows who is getting protection.
Can anyone send me a quick screenshot of the newest developer roadmap(Print screen + Ctrl V)? I don't have access to the game ATM since I'm at work
I know the patch notes are long but the roadmap also?
+1 to David's request.
Roadmap: basically there's going to be coding update so the game can be on other platforms than PC
they are gonna future prrof the code and optimize lotsa stuff
totally gonna double dip in case it gets released on switch
I would like to see native linux build of the game
Other than that, nothing major is promised. New contents like stories and arts will still be updated.
So that i can uninstall proton.
i know this must of been asked quite a few times but can someone whisper me how to get the new wep?
They mention new boons in the trailer for the next update; so I am hoping for Hera, Hestia and Hephaestus
You need to; that's what patch notes say
Have you maxed the relationship with her?
Although suicide should also work
As far as content they’re probably going to focus on spicing up and rounding out what we have now until 1.0.
They did say on the previous roadmap that replayability is going to be a priority going forward.
@gritty crypt Next roadmap tldr:
- Major: technical update to the code base, so Hades can be played on other platforms and system configurations.
- New contents in June: "new Boons, Well of Charon items, Weapon Aspects, story content, music and more."
The release date for this June update is not final, so now it's just "June 2020"
Thanks!
How many times do I need to play the lyre after Zag gets good at it? He now plays actual songs, but it's been a few runs and the prophecy hasn't been completed apparently
you'll have to talk to orpheus before it completes the prophecy
my first run after playing songs already unlocked the conversation with him
dunno if it was rng or not
It must be. I've played songs for four runs in a row now, and he has nothing new to say. Ah well, I'll get it eventually then!
Just got Huge Catch. And the boon icon looks sweeeeet
Oh god, Hades is now talking to himself over the paper approving works
*correction: he apparently can hear the shades' "claims" lining up in the court and then denying them all. Brutal.
I love the new Hypno animation when you wake up him omg!
Yeah it's adorable
I made the mistake of using every alternate Mirror upgrade in a run... it's tough getting used to
And he YAWNS everytime he falls asleep omg!
anyone know how to unlock arthur aspect?
Well I probably should have held off on triggering fists. Anyone have the dialogue of trigger arthur?
does it have to be a run with sword?
No.
no
i just ran one with the fists and didnt get anything
hm
You have to have guan yu too.
you might have to hit a certain point ion the run im not too sure
like beat the game or something
Speaking of which, is the last statue after 32 also a statue of Skelly? :3
they are all skelly
i think
if they are the same from when heat first became a thing
If anyone has the dialogue for NYx for sir Arthur can you DM me it please? Curious what she says about him.
what up with the new prophecy, like nyx and chaos shall be reunited??
like wtf
reunited
Yeah lore says Nyx came from chaos and that she and chaos are like parent and child
She has been separated for awhile around the time that the the earth was created.
That's roughly all we know. and the fact she refers to chaos as the originator/birth.
neat
New flashback hyyype
Loved the flashback
Yeah. It gives us some context and, to Zagreus' credit he's just not cut out for that kind of Job.
umm
I really miss the boon rarity upgrade... but I have to complete a run with only using alternate mirror upgrades!
Ye I just fought against new boss and that was completely unexpected
When does the flash back trigger?
Can someone put up a picture of the punchies I want to see them
new boss?
In the temple rooms
New weapon
4th
Meg, with a warm smile "If you were hoping to avoid a hassle, you've definitely come to the wrong place" boss music starts
Was The Underworld Codex entry always there? There are a few locked
"your mama pressed olive oil" lol!~!!!
So I just want to point out that the one who wielded the new weapons in the war against Titans was Demeter
Also, Artemis's new line hints "I'm just goddess of the hunt, not medicine". Suuuuuuuuuuure~ Artie! Could you please introduce me to someone like that, please? Preferably someone close to you. Maaaaybe your twinsie?!

But yeah, Ice Grandma pounded people with magic brass knuckles
That's rad as Hades
Oh wow, I never noticed the revenge lines...
I- don't know how to feel about the new art styles..
Demeter's Chill count looks... so weird. I was hoping something like Dio's poison level bar.
I don't like Dioynsus' cup just floating on the left...
I'm dying to see the fist models
At least Dio's poison count is easy to see. Demeter's chill just have a number attached below enemies' health bar. And it's bloody white. So I can't barely see what the number is anyway
Dio's poison is also a number now.
oh no, uh oh
I already don't like the sound of having numbers like that in such a fast paced game but I'll need to see it for myself...
So what happens if I have both Dio and Demeter? 2 numbers below the health bar now?>
Oof, that sounds even worse!
I seriously need to test it
how do ya get the king arthur sword
yeah how do you get the new arthur aspect
also is there a 6th person to give ambrosia too yet or we still waiting for that
you talk to nyx about it
is it random chance for the convo to start or do you have to do something
to make it happy
happen
you definitely have to own all weapons
and probably at least one aspect for each weapon
someone here said you have to have gotten to the surface with guan yu too
this isn't the channel for this anyway
this channel is for lore and story
as far as i understand
oh my bad
#h1-builds-and-combat is probably a better place to ask
Ahh no more fury dying sequence
I think I know why I felt the "artstyle" is weird now: the camera is now a bit further back, so everything seems smaller than usual
Also, the god boons are so small now
I don't know how I'm going to defeat Hades with this "One death defiance per room" thing. I always go through two at least
I just wish they'd leave a space between the god symbol and the new saturated colorful halo
ya the god boons look really nice but they need to be bigger
agreed
I do enjoy how boons look like they are trickling from the sky
also kinda wish the mirror upgrade that gives bonus damage on undamaged enemies worked twice on armored ones
or that it did more damage idk I love hestia and all but backstabbing is so good
Yeah, about the amoured foes
who's the new lady?
their new "perks" are so unclear
didn't realise until the voice line but the game is set before medieval times so arthur is a future aspect
kinda neat
thanks fates
I like the new boons 🤷♂️
is there a new goddess or?
lol my run start boon was Pos and all it was was the Legendary fishing spot boon
hoping my boy Charon is next
Yes uncle this is... useful
is that like a one-time thing or is it in the boon pool forever
still won with an insane sword damage buff stack
because that's gotta be the worst boon in the game now
So I can play the harp in the flash back
should be a chance to get whenever you get a boon from him normally
this does count as a bug right?
oh right summons are a thing
So did anybody else immediately swap to Persuasion over Authority
i've had them for like 15 hours of game time and never remembered to use them
i literally have all of them by now
still not a single use
Dang they can be run savers
Boss dying sequences are no longer a thing? I just finished hydra and then all I see is a black screen
Definitely
only one i swapped though
still not sure on the others
too many choices for my puny mortal mind
I swapped a few
the regenerating cast one feels weird since it has negative synergy with all the cast aspects in the game right now
why is than such an overachiever https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESxXhUDXkAIy1kv?format=jpg&name=large
Got the one that does more damage to unharmed enemies instead of the backstab
because Zag is the master of underachievers?
Oh, I guess someone already mentioned it. Everything looks so tiny
i noticed that the game looks slightly more zoomed in
The regen cast is awesome on Zeus, Dio, and Art Cast boons
but maybe thats just me not being used to it anymore
It's actually less zoomed in
is the new woman rework of Nyx?
Yes
nice
It's her official art
I think they changed the VA too but maybe she's just talking uh, less shadelike
I'm going to throw a run for the gauntlets
I never noticed because I never stood still but the little lasers the crystals shoot out at Zag zero in right on his head
do we already know how to unlock the new sword aspect guys?
Regen cast seems to be more for slow, careful playstyles.
These fists are already fun af
I still don't see where one death defiance would be useful, assuming you're trying to fight Hades. I mean I guess it's a free heal if you consistently get hit, but you shouldn't be getting hit enough to need it anyway.
i feel like i might turn regen cast on when i'm playing a build where i don't really care about casts, but absolutely turning it back off if i'm going for hera or poseidon or something
All my years playing Little Mac have prepared me for this
I like it for casts when I'm trying to keep my distance. It also means I never have to collect my bloodstones I suppose
does 'not dropping' mean they stay embedded in enemies forever?
when I tried it, it seemed that way
You can get five in there. Embedded bloodstones still expire
ah
just me or the sword aspect is underwhelming?
Zag calls it a "future aspect". Is that just weird wording, as to say "This is an aspect I don't have yet"?
The sword aspect is all about being tanky. It seems like it's meant to just tank hits, rather than dodging them
Especially since the third swing does 250 damage
yea
Ah, so it turns you into a literal Tank! Got it!
It's a future aspect because it's a form the sword will take in the future for the King Arthur
What? Guan yu is the opposite of tanky.
I feels so weird with the new god boons' size. Like, when it's right next to pom, it looks tiny!
You can't tank hits consistently with Guan Yu. It's just sustainable if you can dodge and position correctly. But even then you're better off with something that does more damage.
having the capability of regaining the x health is better than taking y% less dmg
but preference i guess
@ebon rose i think future aspect is because ancient greek times was before medieval times
oh someone already said that
Usually yes, but GY Spear also lowers your life by a ton
hades also says he knows no king in this realm called arthur
Sure, but we're just not sure exactly when the story takes place, as there's an eternal winter going on
this isn't a theory this is literally what it means
It's touched upon when you first unlock GY too. You see visions of the future.
And yeah it's canon lol
like ares says something along the lines of "wow wouldnt it be crazy if mortals invented something like exagryph"
so guns dont exist
@icy sinew Eh, not necessarily. The health regen is very situational and requires too much of a windup, whereas you can set up a massive defense zone while having more health, and you can use that to tank hits during your big swings.
how can i unlock the arthur aspect?
It's super safe to assume we're in Ancient Greece. GY didn't come around until a thousand years later roughly.
Whats the admin room for
Beyond a dream sequence I'm unsure so far
That's true, super. Though the gods seem to be a bit unclear about what goes on in general, though. As for the timeframe... we're clearly in an alternate history at least, with how long winter has lasted
Uh, alternate how?
You know in IRL Ancient Greece none of the Gods actually existed right.
Whaaaaat
You could call it an alternate timeline just because the Gods are actually present
haha
Cale don't say it's so
I'm just pointing out that making it an alternate timeline seems a little unnecessary, it clearly already distances itself from fiction.
I'm referring to the fact that there's an eternal winter, and humans are apparently dying out.
Just like what happens in the OG Persophone myth until Zeus and Co fix it.
You could say the same about a story where God is a character. No deities have been proven to exist or not exist, so their existence being proven to the reader (and not mortals) doesn't make it an alternate universe. So far, the only indication that things are different in the mortal realm is that this stretch of winter is long enough for it to be a cause of concern for even the other gods
I also assume the flow of time runs different on Olympus/in Hades than it does on the mortal surface.
Silly question: how to unlock the excalibur?
Can a person with server permissions pin up a message of somebody saying that Aspect of Arthur is unlocked by talking to Nyx after finishing a run? Most of this channel has just become people asking the same question.
Oh you need to finish a run
just go in and kermit suicide
Thank you.
Guan yu?
have it
are you still getting new dialogues with nyx
yep
you probably need to exhaust those
ahh will try
Oh, so you don't actually need to attempt patricide? That's how I understood "finishing a run."
i won a run too and it didnt work, still new dialogues
is "Ruthless" supposed to be coming up a lot every time I attack? o .o
or did I forget to read something again?
Thnx
i think its the um gain dmg if you dodge just before something attacks you @supple dagger
not certain but i think its that
oh okay?
@azure island Unlocking the Aspect of Arthur requires ||first having unlocked the Aspect of Guan Yu, then having invested 5 or more Titan Blood into any Blade aspects. Nyx should tell you more in a conversation soon after that||.
Hey i can't see the new weapon in the house ?
i loved the tiny vermin fight holy heck that was great
yea
@feral hamlet Assuming you have unlocked the other weapons already, you may need to complete an escape attempt first (whether you successfully escape or not).
Err, how much Blood?
Please spoil the exact amount, my Blood store is very limited.

IS excalibers special meant to slow projectiles?
(Doesn't say that in the text anywhere)
just going to do a thing real quick....
@high sparrow Yes, totally intended. The description says your Special 'creates a defensive aura that slows foes' but does not go into specific detail due to space constraints.
(We can certainly take another look at the text it if players find there is a disconnect here.)
there's a nice looking aura thing around the player's feet when you are in the zone
oh so i can just call it aspect of dio
i think it communicates it well enough
Quick question Greg concerning the Aspect of Arthur ||You don't need to do the Nyx and Chaos sidequest to unlock it, correct?||
naice
@opaque lichen Correct, it's unrelated.
coolio
its prolly more
simply cus just ||getting skelly keepsake takes fully maxed zag sword||
@deep spoke No problem, it's ||5 or more Titan Blood invested in the Blade; doesn't matter which Aspects||.
Oh, thanks!
I'm technically past that, but I somehow don't have the conversation. I think it got blocked by another Nyx event, though
Conversation with Meg blocked it :c
Yeah, it still won't necessarily be the very next conversation from Nyx, but it should be relatively soon.

hey greg, am i allowed to ask if this is confirmation that all the final aspects are going to be from other mythology? obviously this might be assuming a lot.
thanks for making such a great game too
understand if that's not something you're able to reveal
just wanted to ask in case
Hey, yeah we don't want to say too much about the remaining legendary Aspects! I think it's reasonable to say though that part of what makes them special is they don't come from the familiar gods and heroes of Greek myth.
Ooh wow it's Greg
Keep up the good work team
Seems like things are locked to 4 aspects, but if there were ever to be more an aspect of cu chuliann for varatha would be awesome
also please give the guy who made the new charon shop ui a raise
because it's just amazing
petition to have a musical weapon 
new ui is pretty besides the house contractor i think
preferably a lyre where each "attack" plays a musical note 
Please add Egypt
Egyptian mythology and history have some of the strongest ties to ancient Greece.
It'd be a damned shame not to represent that culture eventually.
Too late for a khopesh, and no room for a scepter, but... a bow, maybe?
Bow could have an aspect of neith maybe, hunter goddess and weaver of fate
tbh i was expecting aspect of masamune for sword
Big sad
The problem with making a game based on real life myths is that we mortals expect everything and everyone lol
Very true
i feel like all of the final aspects are going to be based on famous mortals, not gods
guan yu was refreshing tho
And the Supergiant team is like... smol
and totally unexpected
aspect of orcrist
Fair, but Guan is technically a god? in a way? still not entirely sure
Or at least non-greek based deities
he was deified after death
yo how do you unlock new aspect 😉
And arthurian stuff is technically mythology
or the gauntlets?
guan yu was definitely worshipped to an extent as a god
scroll up greg mentions it
from what i understand
Very fair
and his military exploits got him recognition
Arthur was technically a real dood at one point. That's also probably true of many greek heroic and divine figures.
Bow gonna be aspect of lars anderson
from wikipedia
He is still worshipped by many Chinese people today in mainland China, Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong and among many overseas Chinese communities.
during warring states china had this idea of great general under the heavens
guan held that title
Uh, so, am I just dumb or is it not immediatly obvs where to buy the gauntlets?
there are a lot of legendary hindu archers but idk if they'll use them since it's an existing religion
Or how to unlock the arthur aspect?
(im indian)
Rama would actually be quite awesome
check pinned @dreamy narwhal
Arjunaaaaa
indian longbows are usually slow and heavy
with hella firepower
at least the way they're portrayed in history
Longer charge for more damage would be interesting
all of the legendary aspects so far have been slow and heavy so
i mean guan is more about strategy
slow and heavy to be harder to use
its not slow
guan is also about using the special and the charge attack, not even attacking lol
its just if you try to charge it you should expect damage
Aspect of rama would be sick
maybe a bow that has a long charge time but the charge isnt interrupted by dashing
From the little ive used guan's it seems to rely heavily on striking at the right time and mixing in charges
Charge storage
since that's the reason explosive bow is like almost unusable
Yea guan makes u think more
Oh hey. Aspect being an Indian bow sounds plausible.
Does anyone have ideas for an Egyptian aspect?
Uhhhhh
aspect of rambo
That's the trickiest one
Aspect of jormungandr?
rip gungnir
Yea rip gungnir
who's gonna be the big famous punch boy who gets fist aspect
Aspect of loki- the gun isn't actually a gun anymore its a random weapon you get each room switch
too random for this game
Aspect of Kiryu.
yeah was more of a joke than anything haha
figured
Shield probably has a lot of options i just cant think of any atm
Shield COULD be Ajax if they stay greek with it.
Or Trojan I guess
tho the biggest oOf wtf moment
would have to be mayan
rail could be aspect of xbalanque
poison bolts
Mayan would be very interesting just artistically how they'd change the weapon
It seems like most Egyptian figures are actually gods - the only references I can find to folk heroes are magicians.
And RIP magic weapon
But, maybe Horus shield
Sun related, maybe a beam?
He is the defender so that would be fitting
Charge the beam by blocking damage, unleash the sun's power with Special.
Egyptian myth has a lot of creatures and monster that could work maybe? not a legendary figure but something like aspect of the sphinx could be cool
Poison damage could work too. Maybe not for shield but one of the others
Aspect of the sphinx for the fists maybe
aspect of xbalanque
Aspect of xbal is a great idea tho
I like the idea of using pharaohs for Egyptian
Ramses for fists
(great priest imhotep is stuck in my head)
so how do you unlock excalibur?
talk to nyx
Greg posted about it earlier
Legendary Egyptian aspect for the gauntlets: Claws of Sekhmet?
or bastet
Sekhmet was the angrier one, fits better imo
Oooo yea bastet
Oh damn
Both good, though we think they wont be gods per se since current aspects are heroes not gods
gimme dem bleed claws
Cat claws?
how would you make a poison rail not overlap with dionysus
Give it to me
make it a debuff
@molten gazelle the thing is, Egyptian lore doesn't have nearly as many mortal heroes.
Problem is that ancient Egypt had way more lor- yeah that
It's all about the gods doing their thing
something like acrid from RoR2
would be cool
where you drop the tick
and it bounces to multiple targets
There are a few heroes, but it's mainly a couple of magicians, and heka doesn't really translate well to our aspects
Unless...
They did go absolute madlad and implemented a magic aspect for a weapon
@deep spoke you're right and i would not be opposed to a god aspect for egypt at all
Completely rework it into a blend of spells and weapon attack
I would take that for the Rail
Me too
Or the fists
I'd looooove an Egyptian aspect
If not a god it should def be a pharaoh
Just a note here, I am fairly sure heka and Hecate have related origins?
The Greek connection runs pretty deep
There was a time when Geeks populated Ancient Egypt and some myths combined and new ones were made.



