#h1-story-discussion

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fathom current
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Oh yeah that happens

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Now I kinda wanna look up if holding certain items trigger dialogue from different characters

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The Braid of Atlas could trigger something from one of the olympians, but beats me which one.

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Atlas is a god like the Olympians and not a god like Zagreus, is he?

atomic forge
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Wasn't he a titan?

fathom current
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I just remember Atlas as the guy who held up the world, thanks Eurydice

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Who's Atlas related to also?

fathom current
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Has Satyr Sack
Hmmm...I can get more gold...but it's in a miniboss room, I'm a greedy boi
Says "Screwit," goes in
Gets through pretty much unscathed
IM A GREEDYBOII

fast idol
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yeah Atlas is the titan who holds up the world

granite nacelle
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@fathom current The most, and arguably only, notable child of Atlas was Calypso. She quite literally does nothing wrong, so the gods give her points for that, but because she's Atlas's daughter they still imprisoned her to live alone on an island. The island is a great place, in honesty, but she was also cursed to forever be alone.

The only exception to that was a bittersweet one- the island can only be found by men adrift at sea who, ultimately, have something more important to them that they will eventually leave her for. She's described as a good person and practically perfect. The men that wash up there usually even fall in love with her for a time. Ultimately, though, it's never enough to keep the heroes from eventually leaving to continue whatever quest they were on.

It does kind of mirror Eurydice, now that you mention it. A girl alone on an island, she is literally a Muse, so she's stereotypically perfect; enough to be a living personification of artistic inspiration. Her story also involves a famous Greek hero, love, and his eventual but unintended betrayal and heartbreak.

fathom current
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Huh. Neat.

shy nimbus
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Also, myths about Atlas' "death" is also confusing. He's definitely alive when Heracles doing his labors, but was said to be turnt to stone by Perseus - who happens to be Heracles' great-grandfather ugh/

burnt harbor
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Maybe he got better

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And getting turnt to stone was just temporary

fathom current
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Gods are jerks. There, I said it.

open berry
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yeah thats the point of mythology

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the greek pantheon in particular is known for being fickle and petty over the most inane things

shy nimbus
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The confusing part is that the main reason why Perseus turnt him to stone in the first place is because Atlas didn't trust any hero after Heracles' (counter) trickery and turnt Perseus away.
Like, "Your great grandson tricked me before, so you better shoo!"

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It should be more like: um... Perseus, aren't you supposed to be... dead from falling out of the sky ages ago?! And that Gorgon head is supposed to be on Athena's shield, not right in front of my Titan face right now!

round linden
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Hello

burnt harbor
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Prometheus was nice enough and look how he ended

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I think the rest got the message perfectly

shy nimbus
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Oh yeah, I almost forgot that Atlas was Prometheus' brother.

ebon rose
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Than actually smiled during one of his trials. Finally!

coarse stone
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Zag should get into poetry for his friends and love interests <:

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Roses are Red, Violence is blue. You're the God of Death and I love you. -Zag

runic terrace
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zag starting poetry: roses are dead,

deep spoke
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Incorrect Zagreus quotes:
"I love you from your Thana-head to your Thana-toes"

runic terrace
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hsjfjfjgkf

coarse stone
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don't forget the last line

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"Let's go grab some Thana-toast"

deep spoke
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Tisiphone, writing a haiku:
Murder? Murderer.
Murderer... murrrr... murderer.
Mur... murder? Murder!

mighty zodiac
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Bouldy, writing a sonnet:
...

coarse stone
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Don't forget the heart drawings of Zag being felled in her room

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Let's see...now for Alecto thinks

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Roses are red, blood is too, don't mess with me or it'll be the end of you

deep spoke
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Roses are red.
Ugly mortal blood is red.
If you try to escape
I'll whip you till you're dead.

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Okay, but would Meg nae nae

mighty zodiac
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"You fool, I'm actually into that" -Zagreus, probably

coarse stone
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To my dearest Zag, don't be a fool

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mess with me and I'll send you into the pool

deep spoke
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Watch her whip... watch her nae nae

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Hypnos: To sleep, perchance to... zzzzz

mighty zodiac
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I need to spend some time in the pits of Tartarus to cleanse this from my mind

runic terrace
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meg writing a limerick:
there once was a woman named meg
who fought zag to death on the reg
hes my ex and im bitter
but i'd reconsider
with good enough writing from greg

coarse stone
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claps

deep spoke
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Meta

runic terrace
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:3

deep spoke
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Someone should do Theseus

thorn compass
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Meg had an ex?

deep spoke
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An Ode to Theseus, By Theseus

mighty zodiac
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Theseus Narcissus

deep spoke
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Noooo one fights like Gaston Theseus

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Sadly his name is too long to fit into the Gaston song

coarse stone
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To me myself and I, we say...Thine blessings are yet so sad to say >:

deep spoke
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It would otherwise be perfect

coarse stone
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Thes'us

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Could always contract a vowel to make it fit?

deep spoke
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Tough, but maybe

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It's just a bit janky is all

coarse stone
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Or call him Thesie

deep spoke
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Nah, too cutesy

coarse stone
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Just imagine it's his mother singing it

deep spoke
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Not for his Miles Gloriosus complex

coarse stone
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Could always set the song to Hypnos

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No one fights like Hypnos

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(which would probably actually be true enough lol)

deep spoke
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Blursed concept: Orpheus dancing the can-can

coarse stone
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Cerberus dancing the can-can

deep spoke
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No, because the song associated with it is actually from a parody of the Orpheus myth, I mean.

thorn compass
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T o m o r r o w

deep spoke
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For the memes

coarse stone
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It'd be amusing if in the temple, Cerbie is dancing in place

thorn compass
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U g h

worldly glade
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when did this place turn into poetry contest

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now i cant unsee this

tall ingot
ebon rose
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I filled Meg's hearts all the way long before I filled even one heart for Than... And yet I still haven't been able to give Meg Ambrosia

tall ingot
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Bouldy for the king 👑

ebon rose
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Yet I just gave Than some

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Oh snap! Nevermind. Just entered Zag's room and...

tall ingot
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You give all the ambrosia to bouldy, it's only way to make him believe you

ebon rose
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Make you believe me about what?

bold niche
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Make you believe in yourself

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Maybe you don't believe in yourself, then just believe in Bouldy. And his belief in you.

burnt harbor
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What if......

Bouldy is in fact Dusa's ex that she accidentally petrified?

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He was as bodyless as she

deep spoke
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Believe in the Bouldy that believes in you!

ebon rose
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Huh. I've never beaten a zone and had Hades not say anything

deep spoke
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Next aspect: Aspect of Kamina

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GIGA DRILL BREAKER Hades

bold niche
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to think of it.. Zag looks somewhat like Kamina.. especially with this haircut

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simple clothes, some red here and there, edgy and never gives up

coarse stone
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Aspect of Cerberus, lobs a ball that lures shades to it

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Then giblets!

deep spoke
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Someone put Gurren Lagann shades on Zag

mighty zodiac
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this is reminding me that I never finished Gurren Lagann

deep spoke
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I only saw memes

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episode 1 and memes

bold niche
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i dropped at like 10 episodes from the ending of s3

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to think of it, i seldom finish anything

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hate that feeling when it's all over, story is told and there is nothing left

mighty zodiac
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I thought Gurren Lagann only had the one season

bold niche
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simple clothes, some red here and there, edgy and never gives up
both of them came from underworld btw lol

wicked pier
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I have seen on reddit Zagreus doing jojo pose. Now I need him drilling to ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER.

open berry
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please don't send us back to 2006 😔

bold niche
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i'm ok with going back to 2006

vale basalt
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Please send me to 2006

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so I can stock up on bit coins

worldly glade
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Just bet on sports event

fathom current
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Is Guan Yu a real guy or a game character?

tame bronze
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Guan Yu was a legit person

fathom current
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What's his story?

atomic forge
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He was a major player in the Three Kingdoms period of Ancient China.

wicked pier
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I did not know you could do the nasty with Meg multiple times.

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That was kinda something.

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He was a general or something.

tame bronze
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Encyclopedia Britannica

Guandi, Chinese god of war whose immense popularity with the common people rests on the firm belief that his control over evil spirits is so great that even actors who play his part in dramas share his power over demons. Guandi is not only a natural favourite of soldiers but h...

undone reef
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A weapon from Meso-America Myths could be interesting...With some gods thirsty for bloods

ashen summit
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Hey, is anyone having problems with the Gift of Music quest?

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Zagreus can play quite well now, but the quest doesn't seem to be clearing.

glad lion
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It took me a while after that point for it to clear as well, I just kept playing it and it eventually cleared

undone reef
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Maybe few more runs and it will unlock a new dialogue with Orpheus once a run completed successfully

ancient stump
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If they keep making the last aspects be from other cultures around that time period we might get something egyptian themed! that'd be cool

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Maybe something from south america?

hollow mortar
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If so, Brazil or Mexico will be picked since those are the only top picked countries when it comes to Latin America

deep spoke
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Macuahuitl aspect sword though

ancient stump
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maybe? I'd think they'd choose something older since this is like, a couple thousand years ago. I don't know how much of america's history was destroyed post colonialism so something in that timeframe might just not be something they'd be comfortable doing

tiny sequoia
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tooth sword tooth sword

ancient stump
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TOOTH SWORD

tame bronze
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Tooth sword?

stiff geyser
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oh man like 12 more hours

fathom current
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Tooth sword

undone reef
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Hindu myths can provide nice weapons as well...

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For the sword, a Kusanagi aspect could be interesting. Not easy, for the SGG team to find a weapon and an aspect from another culture / mythos with relevant and different gameplay

cosmic wind
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@undone reef what kind of weapons are you referring to?

undone reef
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@cosmic wind The mace, the wheel (or disc) or the daggers (I'll pass on the spelling of the real name in Indians languages since there are many names)

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But The wheel would be similar to the shield. It could be an aspect of the shield though.

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The mace is interesting as it us very different from other weapons. It could have an Herakles aspect

cosmic wind
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Hmm I wouldn't mind seeing the gada, but I don't think that's plausible

undone reef
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The daggers (the name is Katar, popularized by Assassin's Creed) would be nice but how to translate that into gameplay in a game such as Hades, which is very similar to a Shoot Them Up or A twin Stick Shooter.

cosmic wind
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The Katar could be very nice

undone reef
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I was sad there is no Medusa aspect for the Shield with a turning into stone thing... (Saint Seiya...nostalgia)

cosmic wind
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Ahhh very true

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Yeah I can't think of a way the Katar could be introduced

undone reef
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For the sword, or a Katana / saber aspect focusing on slashing or a Fleuret (like fencing) aspect focusing on piking

cosmic wind
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Man that's...Hmm that would be interesting

undone reef
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But, yeah...easy to have ideas...But then how it would relevant to the lore and gameplay

cosmic wind
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I'd love to see what they come up with, can't say I can see how they'd relate to lore

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Ah yeah

tired veldt
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Nemesis looks kinda eastern stylish

undone reef
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Guan Yu is a kind of god of war / justice so his weapon fits the lore

tired veldt
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So I doubt there will be katana or similar

undone reef
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A whip...we need a whip. I like whips

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Euh, I meant...as a weapon in game (Dead Cells or Castlevania)

rugged mural
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KUSARIGAMA

atomic forge
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Suuure. (I really like Electric Whips in Dead Cells. I want to like Valmont's, but I think I need to start using less Mushroom Boi and more Bear Trap)

undone reef
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Long I didn't play Dead Cells. I bought the new DLC just to support that French studio who did a game of very high quality. I had the game from Early Access anyway.

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My only concern is actually the Metroidvania aspect should be rogue lite as well. The runes should be discovered during a run and lost afterward.

atomic forge
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I feel like Dead Cells is a rapid enough pace that keeping runes over runs is fine in order to keep route diversity.

undone reef
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@atomic forge Nah, let's be back on Hades.

atomic forge
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How many hours until update release?

haughty carbon
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9 or more hours

lunar ibex
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11am pst?

haughty carbon
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But tbh can be anywhere their time

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We are pretty much just speculating

lunar ibex
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Did they say something about 11am? I know people were saying noon pst last update

shy nimbus
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Hm... March 10 is literally 69th day of 2020

strong horizon
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why are you counting that bro

haughty carbon
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Actually today is Mar10 day.

worldly glade
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LMFAO dusa thought Zag was courting her

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why is she so cute

marble prawn
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when dusa says she loves you shadegrief 💚

burnt harbor
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(As a friend)

restive elk
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IT'S ENOUGH

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WE DON'T DESERVE DUSA

ebon rose
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Dusa's great and all, but they really need to change how her story arc is portrayed if they're going to do the platonic end. Maybe don't have her bursting into hearts whenever Zag shows up (and ONLY when he shows up), and just have her be generally nervous. Like, why is it that the two characters we can bang act like jerks, but the one who literally has every part of their story saying that they have a crush suddenly end up going "No I only see you in a platonic light"

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There's not even any progression to her story. Not even a "I had a crush on you, but it was just a crush"

marble prawn
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i interpreted it as dusa didn't know how to place her feelings? like she knew she cared a lot for zag but didn't really understand that what she feels for him isn't the same thing that meg/than feel for zag 🤔 and coming to the understanding that her feelings are platonic rather than romantic is the entire point of the arc from what i read it as

ebon rose
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Than's story is more of the "I don't know what to do with my feelings" story. Dusa literally bursts into romantic hearts whenever she sees Zag. If her story was her trying to place her feelings, her story would reflect that. Instead, we have Bioshock Infinite syndrome, where it seems like two entirely different stories were written for one character, and rather than decide on one, they kept half of each.

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Does she mention her crush? From what I recall, she's just like "Zag nah I don't want to bang you sorry"

polar gust
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I got more of the vibe that she realized that her work is more important and needed to keep that a priority. She didn't want the feelings ever to get in the way of work.

ebon rose
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But does she ever mention that? It seems like she just tries to communicate that she only feels for him platonically and never felt anything else for him.

polar gust
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Dusa: I do have feelings for you, silly! That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you, it’s just…it’s just…

Zagreus: It’s just what…? Whatever it is, it’s OK. You can be yourself with me, Dusa. I promise.

Dusa: I’m glad you put it that way. I…I’m not looking for an intimate relationship. You’re the kindest soul in this whole House. And I have learned so much from you! But, when I really think about my feelings…I’m just, not attracted to you, in that way. I’m sorry. You’re a really nice guy!

Zagreus: Oh, hahaha, look, there’s nothing to apologize for, not at all. In fact…all this is a relief. I’ve learned a lot from you, too, and I cherish our friendship for what it is. Do you…do you think that we could still be friends? Or, is it better that you didn’t see me anymore…?

Dusa: Don’t say that! Though, I was going to ask you the same thing. I’d really like it if you’d be my friend! Though, my career comes first, so…I don’t want you doing any special favors, promise me? I need to see how far I can get on my own.

deep spoke
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this sounds perfectly reasonable to me, tbh

polar gust
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She mentions both, but she does mention first that she isnt attracred in that way.

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I guess you are right in that sense

ebon rose
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"Not attracted to you in that way" Yeah, that's certainly what it seems like when she bursts into romantic hearts whenever she sees Zag

polar gust
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Does she do that after that encounter? I don't believe so.

ebon rose
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That's the part that I find frustrating. Why have her portrayed one way and then go "Nope that never happened!".

deep spoke
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I mean, because people often don't understand their feelings until later?

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That sounds like a thing that people do?

polar gust
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That's my thoughts.

deep spoke
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it do, in fact, be like that sometimes.

ebon rose
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"I'm not attracted to you" suggests she never was, when in fact she definitely was for most of her storyline. That's how I see it, anyway.

polar gust
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The infatuation of the prince taking notice of you when you thought you were just above the shades in the house, that would be nervewracking for me, certainly.

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just thought someone might like it.

signal palm
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It's not just "I'm not attracted to you". It's, "When I really think about my feelings, I'm just not attracted to you in that way"

Suggesting that she had never thought too hard about it before and found out after the fact

ebon rose
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That's portrayed by her freaking out and bailing after every interaction. The hearts part equates to attraction, but she says she wasn't attracted to him at all. Those don't match up.

Her "I don't like you like that" speech should have included "I don't feel about you the way I thought I did" instead of implying she never was attracted to him.

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Fair, penguins. I just think it could have been expressed in a better way.

signal palm
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That's exactly what she says??

deep spoke
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The hearts merely indicate she had a crush, not that she really understood what it meant to her long term

signal palm
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It's a very real thing for people to think they like someone and later find out they only admired them as something else

ebon rose
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She never admits that she thought one thing and now thinks something else though. That line implies that she never found him attractive, or at best never really knew what she felt. But her portrayal suggests something different up until that point.

I mean, I -am- salty that she isn't really romanceable when there are two jerkasses that are romanceable... but I'd be fine with this route if it had better writing.

jovial cedar
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I mean they don’t stay jerks for long...

ebon rose
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That's kind of my point haha

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Meg makes the most sense, as she's a bitter ex. But Than is just this salty af jerk that only is nice to you after you shower him with gifts.

Are we going to have a romanceable character eventually that we actually have a normal progression with? Someone who doesn't hate us, and we grow closer with over time? Or even a platonic friendship that starts out platonic.

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I don't count Sis and Skelly, because their bonds don't have that feel. They don't have the emotional depth that a "romance" path would have

burnt harbor
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If you spent all day literally killing people you would be a jerk too

hollow charm
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I think with than too he was also angry with zag at the time

lusty barn
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Every time I start a run: Oh boy here I go killing!

hollow charm
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Hence his jerky attitude

signal palm
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Honestly if someone I'd known, been around, and taken care of since they were a baby decided to leave without so much as a goodbye, I would be salty af too

hollow charm
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Since its implied they had a close bond before zag started his escapes without telling him

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Yeah i kinda understand thanatos's jerkiness in that case bc he even says later it was because he felt betrayed and angry

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Which, fair

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Zag himself even admits that he handled thanatos badly and should have told him that he planned to leave - or at least have said goodbye

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Tbh i'm a sucker for those kind of relationships bc i love seeing how they navigate those kind of hurdles

ebon rose
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Did Than take care of Zag when he was a baby? It seemed implied that they were both the same age, more or less.

signal palm
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Take care of in the same way a childhood friend would

restive elk
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The whole point of overseeing relationships is that they have to go through some hurdles atleast.

ebon rose
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Some of Than's attitude is reasonable, some of Meg's might be reasonable depending on what happened in their past relationship. But they both were undeniably jerks, more so than they should have been.

hollow charm
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I mean, from their perspective zag is just up and abandoning them, so lashing out from perceiving that betrayal is only natural

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They slowly come around and support him in their own ways, but their relationships are always gonna have tension because of the whole zag running away from home theme

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But at this point its probs a personal preference thing with how you deem their jerkiness reasonable in this situation

signal palm
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Maybe they overreacted, but if you can at least understand why, then it's p realistic. People usually don't immediately sit down and have a chat after they feel they've been betrayed. People get angry and people act unreasonably. I think it's nice when characters are written like real people.

hollow charm
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^

untold fjord
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Plus, it's Greek Mythology, where exactly no one besides Dionysus has chill

hollow charm
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Yeah we're lucky no one was turned into a tree or an animal or something

signal palm
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I hear Calypso is p nice

hollow charm
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The one doomed to forever be alone on an island?

signal palm
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Mhmm

deep spoke
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Was that actually enforced by a godly curse, or was it just that the people who visited her were too self-absorbed to consider, you know, taking her off the damn island?

storm hazel
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can someone tell me when the heat unlocks?

south oxide
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Beat the game i think

untold fjord
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After the first time you beat the FINAL BOSS

deep spoke
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So guys. That joke about misreading Thanatos as Thanos...

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Imagine Than looking at your purse with 1.5k obols in it and just saying "All that for a drop of blood."

south oxide
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I was preparing for some very cursed art

lusty barn
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Thanatos got the infinity guantlet, snapped his fingers, and 50%ish of his name got dusted.

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That's how we got Thanos

signal palm
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That ish is doing a lot of work

errant mango
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Well there is that cursed edit buried somewhere in #fan-works ...

nocturne rose
errant mango
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Thanks for bringing that back, I missed it so so much

analog edge
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Thanostos

open berry
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mfw people rag about how meg and than act towards zag for his deciding to escape but never factor hades, their literal employer into it. not only personally feeling betrayed, but of course they're going to be testy when their own boss is pissy over zag's actions and the consequences have a real possibility of coming down on them as well

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everyone is too busy trying to explain how these characters react in terms of how normal humans would act when they are, yknow, not humans and inherently cannot respond to things in a way we would consider normal and healthy. it's pointed out multiple times in game, "we're not mortal, we don't adhere to mortal standards"

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zag behaves the most human which is probably related to his blood, figuratively and literally.

deep spoke
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Even then, he doesn't act like the average human...

open berry
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He doesn't

deep spoke
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finally though, someone said it

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By the way, there's this really... neat thing I just noticed.

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In one Hades flashback, Zag responds "You don't need me, and I don't need you."

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When you beat Hades, sometimes he says "You have only me, and I have only you"...

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Neat parallel

hollow charm
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Ohh that is p neat

errant mango
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Ooh I've never seen that one before

sharp axle
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I still think that Than’s constant teleporting away from Zag is unacceptable garbage.

earnest spindle
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It's ok when Protoman does it

icy sinew
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Patch when

faint socket
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Sometime this afternoon PST

ebon rose
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Soon tm

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What is this, Antimatter Dimensions?

deep spoke
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What is this, Warframe? :p

sinful temple
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Any speculations on the patch's silhouette?

deep spoke
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nyx.

sinful temple
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Ooh, I like that.

errant mango
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I've managed to convince myself it's Nyx - but nothing is confirmed so I'm trying to not get disappointed if it's not her hahah

ebon rose
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Felis is saying to nyx the discussion

deep spoke
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So instead of "when is the update"

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"Who is the update"

errant mango
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When is Nyx?

stiff geyser
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Everyone asks when is the update but no one wants to know how is the update. It has feelings too

ebon rose
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Why is update?

errant mango
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"I can't believe I'm in my mid 20s and feeling this excited about a video game update"

hollow garden
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you're allowed to be excited about a video game update regardless of your age

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:p

errant mango
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Yeah but like... it's like I'm a kid again and xmas is tomorrow lol

rugged coral
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I feel like that's a pretty normal feeling for someone in their mid 20s anyway

hollow garden
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how dare you enjoy fun things kappa

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last I checked fun was made illegal

errant mango
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Nooo we're supposed to be boring adults, didn't you get the memo? smh

hollow garden
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ah dang it you're right

stiff geyser
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I'm gonna have to be out of this chat today since I won't be home til long after the update drops

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And I'm hype for the new weapon and want it to be a surprise

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So good luck everyone

bold niche
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Are we going to have a romanceable character eventually that we actually have a normal progression with? Someone who doesn't hate us, and we grow closer with over time? Or even a platonic friendship that starts out platonic.
My friend wanted to see exactly that with Leuce. They can start really as strangers to each other, then know each other better, realize that they have similar fate to be stuck here against their will.. and eventually become really close

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since Leuce didn't have a chance to live a life normally, and may be even still alive at the moment

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never loved someone yet, and never been loved

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except for Hades, but we know how good he is at loving and caring (not that good)

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well.. there is a problem that some people do want to be loved, but from some overwhelming circumstance never get a chance to meet someone who will be there for them

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guess that would be a deep story to be told

burnt harbor
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TFW we will never be able to romance the cook

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As he feed us and makes sure we are healthy

tiny sequoia
#

now im imagining the cook giving baby zag vitamin gummis

hollow charm
#

needs those vit d gummis since no sunlight

spring remnant
#

the update is here Pog

tame ember
#

lo

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the update is on steam already?

#

check steam page

shy nimbus
#

yup updating the game atm

nova kite
#

2.2gb Im really feeling it

shy nimbus
#

"nity nite" lol!

#

Yah! Arthur!

graceful ginkgo
#

Just sayin' I called arthur/excalibur

jovial cedar
#

Oh my gods, I was gonna ask if something as silly as an Arthur aspect could happen but then it DID

#

Nothing is out of reach!

#

Karna aspect when?

short vault
#

MOM

#

NYX

graceful ginkgo
#

Are we gonna have a bunch of people raging about pandering to British people now like we did last time?

drowsy hollow
#

"+ Expanded Story: hours of added narrative featuring Nyx, Chaos, Artemis, Zeus, and more" can we now progress the artemis relationship further???? Pog

shy nimbus
#

@graceful ginkgo meh, Greg literally mentioned it 2 updates ago

graceful ginkgo
#

did he?

shy nimbus
#

Yup, way before GY even a thing

graceful ginkgo
#

source?

shy nimbus
#

QnA channel right on Discord, mate

graceful ginkgo
#

you could have just let me have that 😡

shy nimbus
#

Hehehe

ebon rose
#

Reuniting?! Ohhhh boy here we go

hexed scarab
#

does it matter a whole lot what aspects you go for? Since its hard to get get titan blood it seems don't want to waist it

fast idol
#

Twin
Fists
Twin
fists
Twin
Fists

burnt harbor
#

Nyx is cuter than I thought.

graceful ginkgo
#

double nova buff 👌

supple dagger
#

Story progression with Chaos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

drowsy hollow
#

the silhouette in the june update teaser Pog Pog Pog

supple dagger
#

Nyx looks funny

pliant hinge
#

CUTER?

#

SHE IS
HOT

thin saddle
#

Holy hell Nyx

fast idol
#

yas queen slay me

lunar kiln
#

CHARON????

coarse olive
#

New Charon confirmed

pliant hinge
#

I didn't think any character would come close to Bayonetta

#

But here she is

#

Nyx

tame bronze
#

Charon in June?!

thin saddle
#

She be kinda looking like Bayo

coarse olive
#

Charon in June.

thin saddle
#

Or black haired Jeanne

haughty carbon
#

my bet is on Charon

stray frigate
#

the breathing charon sound made me laugh

pliant hinge
#

Still, the fact that I would very much like her to step on me persist

tame bronze
#

My birthday is in June so I might as well consider the update a present.

stray frigate
#

not subtle

haughty carbon
#

literally a paddle/torch for the boat he got right there.

thin saddle
#

Mood @pliant hinge

iron flame
#

I know Nyx is beautiful but let's try to still keep it appropriate folks. 😄

stray frigate
#

can finally go behind that door though!

fast idol
#

oh my god Charon Art coming UP

tame bronze
#

Than has his mother's eyes.

pliant hinge
#

Oh right

#

Also explains why Than is very hot

supple dagger
#

Just have Charon with gold on his chesticles. Lmao

visual parrot
#

Does Zag look more swole in this trailer art o.O

errant mango
#

Zag has been lifting those weights lol

supple dagger
#

Probably

jovial cedar
#

The godly side profile

fast idol
#

hes getting beefy

supple dagger
#

They come with the fists

haughty carbon
#

he hit up the gym to finally wield the claws

burnt harbor
#

@pliant hinge Agree

stray frigate
#

aspect of arthur... the tiny vermin of evil... me thinks monty python ref

#

the killer rabbit?

drowsy hollow
#

does hades smell of elderberries?

burnt harbor
#

Pretty fitting that Nyx is a ||MILF||

deep spoke
#

Yes lmao, Monty Python update

burnt harbor
#

Was that Charon Shilouette

haughty carbon
#

people so far feel like it is Charon lol

errant mango
#

Yeah it's 100% Charon

verbal bramble
#

are there diff aspects on the gloves?

haughty carbon
#

I guess?

deep spoke
#

Yes there are

haughty carbon
#

Haven't new weapons always come with three aspects?

fast idol
#

yeaa

deep spoke
#

Apparently Demeter punched the crap out of the titans.

#

Yes.

fast idol
#

Talos and Demeter

deep spoke
#

She just beat them to death

haughty carbon
#

that makes me wonder what kind of combos you can do with demeter and dio stuff

#

the attack on the claws looks insane

jovial cedar
#

ORA

fast idol
#

big ora energies

#

Third aspect is gonna be Aspect of Jotaro

deep spoke
#

Kenshiro

#

Delays damage of an uninterrupted combo, and applies up to a 5x multiplier based on number of hits.

#

That ignores armor.

ivory sand
#

New Nyx art is 🔥

burnt harbor
#

Aspect of Muhammad Ali

supple dagger
#

okay, I saw the tiny vermin in the trailer

#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

wicked pier
#

Aspect of SUTA PRATINUM ZA WARUDO

#

the special stops all enemies from moving until you land a hit on one.

#

WAIT that would be a SICK call power

fast idol
#

Chronos Call

jovial cedar
#

Call of Kronos? 👀

supple dagger
#

Time Stop aid?

jovial cedar
#

Could be Hermes’ aid and it’s actually just Zag going so fast it looks like time has stopped

wicked pier
#

Now I just need to infiltrate SGG developement team and make Kronus boons a thing

supple dagger
#

I kinda wouldn't mind knowing if Nyx had a sister who lives on Olympus

#

who is essentially "Light/Day"

jovial cedar
#

Theia? Hemera?

#

Pretty sure “Night” came before “Day”

#

But Supergiant makes it sound like Theia is unrelated to Nyx Google says Nyx’s kid Hemera represented Day /shrug

fast idol
#

Wait whats Helios then?

burnt harbor
#

Don't you all remember When King Arthur Obtained The World to stop the Saxon Invaders in their tracks?

jovial cedar
#

The sun

fast idol
#

ah

#

and ixion the moon, but wasn't there also a Selene?

supple dagger
#

Helios, the Sun, and Selene, the Moon. Though I've been informed that Artemis, I think, also could represnet the moon, since she has the crescent necklace and such.

fast idol
#

wait who IS Ixion then, since Hades talks about us having only seen Ixion's light

supple dagger
#

Also the name I saw when I looked up things related to Nyx and the myth of Nyx, the names I came across for Light/Day was Himeria or something like that.

#

And Aeron

#

If such a thing was worked in, Himeria would be a person, like Nyx, and Aeron would be like Erebus.

full girder
#

How do I get the new weapon and aspects? Oo

jovial cedar
#

Patch note says you need to talk to Nyx to get Arthur’s aspect

fast idol
#

And you get the twin fists when you have every other weapon unlocked

tired aspen
#

whats with these final aspects and being slower than Boldy

full girder
#

I have everything unlocked

jovial cedar
#

Has your game updated?

full girder
#

yes i'm filling the new mirror stuff

#

but the fists aren't there

fast idol
#

ah you need to finish a run

#

beat final boss or die

#

your choice

tired aspen
#

gonna be die, this arthus aspect is not my cup of tea

deep spoke
#

Important question

#

What is the Greek translation of "you are already dead"?

fast idol
#

jasdajkdlh

#

don't

#

its a little sluggish yeah

bold niche
#

What is the Greek translation of "you are already dead"?
that's Than's line already

red kayak
#

@fast idol ixion would be a sort of sun that only shows up in the underworld. By myth, he was a dude that tried to seduce Hera, and Zeus bound him to a flaming wheel as punishment

fast idol
#

but I like playing slow and defensively

bold niche
#

@deep spoke (not google) says that it's "eίsai ίdi nekrόs"

safe mountain
#

EXCALIBUR ASPECT

#

Yeeeeesssssssssssss

brazen silo
#

I’m sorry? The first boon I get in my run is one that gives me more fishing spots...

#

What?

supple dagger
#

wait, there's boons for fishing now? I skimmed through those patch notes too fast.

deep spoke
#

lol

supple dagger
#

Is it a Poseidon boon?

brazen silo
#

Yes lol

#

I got it on my first

#

Was the only option too

#

Mind you when I say first, I mean first of the patch

tired aspen
#

the gloves feel very strong

supple dagger
#

No Choice run. You now get all the fishies

tired aspen
#

and wow, the range on that special

supple dagger
#

Weirdly, "more fishing points" sounds like it should be an Artemis+Poseidon duo boon.

wicked pier
#

I love the sound effect of the new sword aspect

supple dagger
#

w/ dialogue along the lines of "I'm not much of a fisher but I support any kinda hunt. Even if it's in my (uncle?)'s place"

next glacier
#

I like how Zagreus now states if he a fish is nearby, too. Helps me not miss them.

bold niche
#

pretty sure he did this before

wicked pier
#

What is the laser between the spreaders in the trailer?

#

Did anyone encounter that yet?

supple dagger
#

Demeter cast, I think

#

if not Brimstones, it has to be Demeter's cast.

open berry
#

kinda not crazy about artemis hearts being unlocked and her gift dialogue being basically a 180 from her previous heart dialogue

wicked pier
#

There are no brimstones; but there is a laser between the spreaders in at 1:05 in trailer

#

it's a purple laser; so i assume it's an enemy thing.

#

nvm; + Linker: links to other foes via a continuous beam that damages you

viscid fjord
#

for the new death defiance, is a chamber a floor or a room

verbal bramble
#

best aspect for the new weapon?

wicked pier
#

its been 15 minutes; i doubt anyone can say at this point.

supple dagger
#

Linkers sound like Cheerleaders except the beam hurts rather than just shows who is getting protection.

gritty crypt
#

Can anyone send me a quick screenshot of the newest developer roadmap(Print screen + Ctrl V)? I don't have access to the game ATM since I'm at work

fast idol
#

its uh

#

long

gritty crypt
#

I know the patch notes are long but the roadmap also?

wicked pier
#

+1 to David's request.

fast idol
#

yea

#

tldr

#

Next update in June

shy nimbus
#

Roadmap: basically there's going to be coding update so the game can be on other platforms than PC

fast idol
#

they are gonna future prrof the code and optimize lotsa stuff

#

totally gonna double dip in case it gets released on switch

wicked pier
#

I would like to see native linux build of the game

shy nimbus
#

Other than that, nothing major is promised. New contents like stories and arts will still be updated.

wicked pier
#

So that i can uninstall proton.

fringe arch
#

i know this must of been asked quite a few times but can someone whisper me how to get the new wep?

shy nimbus
#

just talk to Nyx

#

I literally just talked to her and she gave me the passcode

wicked pier
#

They mention new boons in the trailer for the next update; so I am hoping for Hera, Hestia and Hephaestus

fringe arch
#

i did and she didnt give me anything

#

maybe i need to do a run

wicked pier
#

You need to; that's what patch notes say

shy nimbus
#

Have you maxed the relationship with her?

wicked pier
#

Although suicide should also work

fringe arch
#

i dont think so. but yea i also suicided

#

cause i was in a run b4 update

umbral grail
#

As far as content they’re probably going to focus on spicing up and rounding out what we have now until 1.0.

#

They did say on the previous roadmap that replayability is going to be a priority going forward.

shy nimbus
#

@gritty crypt Next roadmap tldr:

  • Major: technical update to the code base, so Hades can be played on other platforms and system configurations.
  • New contents in June: "new Boons, Well of Charon items, Weapon Aspects, story content, music and more."
#

The release date for this June update is not final, so now it's just "June 2020"

gritty crypt
#

Thanks!

ebon rose
#

How many times do I need to play the lyre after Zag gets good at it? He now plays actual songs, but it's been a few runs and the prophecy hasn't been completed apparently

stark swallow
#

you'll have to talk to orpheus before it completes the prophecy

#

my first run after playing songs already unlocked the conversation with him

#

dunno if it was rng or not

ebon rose
#

It must be. I've played songs for four runs in a row now, and he has nothing new to say. Ah well, I'll get it eventually then!

#

Just got Huge Catch. And the boon icon looks sweeeeet

shy nimbus
#

Oh god, Hades is now talking to himself over the paper approving works

#

*correction: he apparently can hear the shades' "claims" lining up in the court and then denying them all. Brutal.

#

I love the new Hypno animation when you wake up him omg!

ebon rose
#

Yeah it's adorable

#

I made the mistake of using every alternate Mirror upgrade in a run... it's tough getting used to

shy nimbus
#

And he YAWNS everytime he falls asleep omg!

void heart
#

anyone know how to unlock arthur aspect?

safe oyster
#

Well I probably should have held off on triggering fists. Anyone have the dialogue of trigger arthur?

spiral saddle
#

talk to nyx after a run @void heart

#

i think

void heart
#

does it have to be a run with sword?

safe oyster
#

No.

spiral saddle
#

no

void heart
#

i just ran one with the fists and didnt get anything

spiral saddle
#

hm

safe oyster
#

You have to have guan yu too.

spiral saddle
#

you might have to hit a certain point ion the run im not too sure

#

like beat the game or something

void heart
#

guess ill beat the game with sword, i just beat it with fists

#

thanks

supple dagger
#

Speaking of which, is the last statue after 32 also a statue of Skelly? :3

spiral saddle
#

they are all skelly

#

i think

#

if they are the same from when heat first became a thing

safe oyster
#

If anyone has the dialogue for NYx for sir Arthur can you DM me it please? Curious what she says about him.

spiral saddle
#

what up with the new prophecy, like nyx and chaos shall be reunited??

#

like wtf

#

reunited

safe oyster
#

Yeah lore says Nyx came from chaos and that she and chaos are like parent and child

#

She has been separated for awhile around the time that the the earth was created.

#

That's roughly all we know. and the fact she refers to chaos as the originator/birth.

spiral saddle
#

neat

ebon rose
#

New flashback hyyype

tame bronze
#

Loved the flashback

lapis smelt
#

Yeah. It gives us some context and, to Zagreus' credit he's just not cut out for that kind of Job.

icy sinew
#

umm

ebon rose
#

I really miss the boon rarity upgrade... but I have to complete a run with only using alternate mirror upgrades!

tired veldt
#

Ye I just fought against new boss and that was completely unexpected

safe oyster
#

When does the flash back trigger?

stiff geyser
#

Can someone put up a picture of the punchies I want to see them

icy sinew
#

new boss?

tired veldt
#

In the temple rooms

stiff geyser
#

New weapon

icy sinew
#

temple rooms??

#

3rd stage?

stiff geyser
#

4th

icy sinew
#

styx rooms

#

got it

ebon rose
#

Meg, with a warm smile "If you were hoping to avoid a hassle, you've definitely come to the wrong place" boss music starts

#

Was The Underworld Codex entry always there? There are a few locked

shy nimbus
#

"your mama pressed olive oil" lol!~!!!

untold fjord
#

So I just want to point out that the one who wielded the new weapons in the war against Titans was Demeter

shy nimbus
#

Also, Artemis's new line hints "I'm just goddess of the hunt, not medicine". Suuuuuuuuuuure~ Artie! Could you please introduce me to someone like that, please? Preferably someone close to you. Maaaaybe your twinsie?!

untold fjord
#

But yeah, Ice Grandma pounded people with magic brass knuckles

#

That's rad as Hades

ebon rose
#

Oh wow, I never noticed the revenge lines...

shy nimbus
#

I- don't know how to feel about the new art styles..

#

Demeter's Chill count looks... so weird. I was hoping something like Dio's poison level bar.

ebon rose
#

I don't like Dioynsus' cup just floating on the left...

still flume
#

Wait what new style

#

Im in class so i havent seen

stiff geyser
#

I'm dying to see the fist models

shy nimbus
#

At least Dio's poison count is easy to see. Demeter's chill just have a number attached below enemies' health bar. And it's bloody white. So I can't barely see what the number is anyway

deep spoke
#

Dio's poison is also a number now.

shy nimbus
#

oh no, uh oh

pure plaza
#

I already don't like the sound of having numbers like that in such a fast paced game but I'll need to see it for myself...

shy nimbus
#

So what happens if I have both Dio and Demeter? 2 numbers below the health bar now?>

pure plaza
#

Oof, that sounds even worse!

shy nimbus
#

I seriously need to test it

haughty carbon
#

they have their icon too

#

so it's icon and number

viscid fjord
#

how do ya get the king arthur sword

deep spoke
#

That's exactly what happens

#

It's really small on Bothers and all

raven gale
#

yeah how do you get the new arthur aspect

viscid fjord
#

also is there a 6th person to give ambrosia too yet or we still waiting for that

haughty carbon
#

you talk to nyx about it

viscid fjord
#

is it random chance for the convo to start or do you have to do something

#

to make it happy

#

happen

indigo cipher
#

you definitely have to own all weapons

#

and probably at least one aspect for each weapon

#

someone here said you have to have gotten to the surface with guan yu too

#

this isn't the channel for this anyway

#

this channel is for lore and story

#

as far as i understand

viscid fjord
#

oh my bad

indigo cipher
lunar ibex
#

Ahh no more fury dying sequence

shy nimbus
#

I think I know why I felt the "artstyle" is weird now: the camera is now a bit further back, so everything seems smaller than usual

#

Also, the god boons are so small now

ebon rose
#

I don't know how I'm going to defeat Hades with this "One death defiance per room" thing. I always go through two at least

lunar ibex
#

I just wish they'd leave a space between the god symbol and the new saturated colorful halo

zenith leaf
#

ya the god boons look really nice but they need to be bigger

hybrid glen
#

agreed

fast idol
#

I do enjoy how boons look like they are trickling from the sky

zenith leaf
#

also kinda wish the mirror upgrade that gives bonus damage on undamaged enemies worked twice on armored ones

#

or that it did more damage idk I love hestia and all but backstabbing is so good

shy nimbus
#

Yeah, about the amoured foes

tepid ledge
#

who's the new lady?

shy nimbus
#

their new "perks" are so unclear

indigo cipher
#

didn't realise until the voice line but the game is set before medieval times so arthur is a future aspect

#

kinda neat

#

thanks fates

modern hearth
#

I like the new boons 🤷‍♂️

tepid ledge
#

is there a new goddess or?

indigo cipher
#

new nyx art

#

she's beautiful

#

new hypnos model too

tepid ledge
#

oh I see

#

so it's Nyx

modern hearth
#

lol my run start boon was Pos and all it was was the Legendary fishing spot boon

hybrid glen
#

hoping my boy Charon is next

modern hearth
#

Yes uncle this is... useful

indigo cipher
#

yeah i think that's scripted

#

got it too

zenith leaf
#

is that like a one-time thing or is it in the boon pool forever

indigo cipher
#

still won with an insane sword damage buff stack

zenith leaf
#

because that's gotta be the worst boon in the game now

tough mulch
#

So I can play the harp in the flash back

indigo cipher
#

should be a chance to get whenever you get a boon from him normally

tough mulch
#

this does count as a bug right?

modern hearth
#

Accidentally summoned Meg to murder first enemy

#

Overkill

indigo cipher
#

oh right summons are a thing

modern hearth
#

So did anybody else immediately swap to Persuasion over Authority

indigo cipher
#

i've had them for like 15 hours of game time and never remembered to use them

#

i literally have all of them by now

#

still not a single use

modern hearth
#

Dang they can be run savers

shy nimbus
#

Boss dying sequences are no longer a thing? I just finished hydra and then all I see is a black screen

indigo cipher
#

also yeah i swapped over

#

way more useful

modern hearth
#

Definitely

indigo cipher
#

only one i swapped though

#

still not sure on the others

#

too many choices for my puny mortal mind

modern hearth
#

I swapped a few

zenith leaf
#

the regenerating cast one feels weird since it has negative synergy with all the cast aspects in the game right now

open berry
modern hearth
#

Got the one that does more damage to unharmed enemies instead of the backstab

proper cairn
#

because Zag is the master of underachievers?

supple dagger
#

Oh, I guess someone already mentioned it. Everything looks so tiny

proper cairn
#

i noticed that the game looks slightly more zoomed in

modern hearth
#

The regen cast is awesome on Zeus, Dio, and Art Cast boons

proper cairn
#

but maybe thats just me not being used to it anymore

modern hearth
#

It's actually less zoomed in

timber obsidian
#

is the new woman rework of Nyx?

modern hearth
#

Yes

timber obsidian
#

nice

modern hearth
#

It's her official art

timber obsidian
#

yeah they use the shade art as placeholder

#

did the same for sysiphus

modern hearth
#

I think they changed the VA too but maybe she's just talking uh, less shadelike

#

I'm going to throw a run for the gauntlets

deep spoke
#

Eh, regen cast feels bad on Dio ice wine combo

#

It's so slow for DPS

modern hearth
#

I never noticed because I never stood still but the little lasers the crystals shoot out at Zag zero in right on his head

ivory yacht
#

do we already know how to unlock the new sword aspect guys?

ebon rose
#

Regen cast seems to be more for slow, careful playstyles.

modern hearth
#

These fists are already fun af

ebon rose
#

I still don't see where one death defiance would be useful, assuming you're trying to fight Hades. I mean I guess it's a free heal if you consistently get hit, but you shouldn't be getting hit enough to need it anyway.

zenith leaf
#

i feel like i might turn regen cast on when i'm playing a build where i don't really care about casts, but absolutely turning it back off if i'm going for hera or poseidon or something

modern hearth
#

All my years playing Little Mac have prepared me for this

ebon rose
#

I like it for casts when I'm trying to keep my distance. It also means I never have to collect my bloodstones I suppose

zenith leaf
#

does 'not dropping' mean they stay embedded in enemies forever?

severe sapphire
#

when I tried it, it seemed that way

ebon rose
#

You can get five in there. Embedded bloodstones still expire

severe sapphire
#

ah

icy sinew
#

just me or the sword aspect is underwhelming?

ebon rose
#

Zag calls it a "future aspect". Is that just weird wording, as to say "This is an aspect I don't have yet"?

The sword aspect is all about being tanky. It seems like it's meant to just tank hits, rather than dodging them

#

Especially since the third swing does 250 damage

icy sinew
#

guan yu would be more tanky with the lifesteal for me

#

personally

pure plaza
#

third swing does What now????

#

Is that base???

icy sinew
#

yea

pure plaza
#

Ah, so it turns you into a literal Tank! Got it!

modern hearth
#

It's a future aspect because it's a form the sword will take in the future for the King Arthur

ebon rose
#

What? Guan yu is the opposite of tanky.

shy nimbus
#

I feels so weird with the new god boons' size. Like, when it's right next to pom, it looks tiny!

ebon rose
#

You can't tank hits consistently with Guan Yu. It's just sustainable if you can dodge and position correctly. But even then you're better off with something that does more damage.

icy sinew
#

having the capability of regaining the x health is better than taking y% less dmg

#

but preference i guess

indigo cipher
#

@ebon rose i think future aspect is because ancient greek times was before medieval times

#

oh someone already said that

pure plaza
#

Usually yes, but GY Spear also lowers your life by a ton

indigo cipher
#

hades also says he knows no king in this realm called arthur

ebon rose
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Sure, but we're just not sure exactly when the story takes place, as there's an eternal winter going on

indigo cipher
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this isn't a theory this is literally what it means

modern hearth
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It's touched upon when you first unlock GY too. You see visions of the future.

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And yeah it's canon lol

indigo cipher
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like ares says something along the lines of "wow wouldnt it be crazy if mortals invented something like exagryph"

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so guns dont exist

ebon rose
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@icy sinew Eh, not necessarily. The health regen is very situational and requires too much of a windup, whereas you can set up a massive defense zone while having more health, and you can use that to tank hits during your big swings.

edgy phoenix
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how can i unlock the arthur aspect?

modern hearth
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It's super safe to assume we're in Ancient Greece. GY didn't come around until a thousand years later roughly.

still flume
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Whats the admin room for

modern hearth
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Beyond a dream sequence I'm unsure so far

ebon rose
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That's true, super. Though the gods seem to be a bit unclear about what goes on in general, though. As for the timeframe... we're clearly in an alternate history at least, with how long winter has lasted

modern hearth
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Uh, alternate how?

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You know in IRL Ancient Greece none of the Gods actually existed right.

ebon rose
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Whaaaaat

modern hearth
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You could call it an alternate timeline just because the Gods are actually present

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haha

ebon rose
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Cale don't say it's so

modern hearth
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I'm just pointing out that making it an alternate timeline seems a little unnecessary, it clearly already distances itself from fiction.

ebon rose
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I'm referring to the fact that there's an eternal winter, and humans are apparently dying out.

modern hearth
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Just like what happens in the OG Persophone myth until Zeus and Co fix it.

ebon rose
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You could say the same about a story where God is a character. No deities have been proven to exist or not exist, so their existence being proven to the reader (and not mortals) doesn't make it an alternate universe. So far, the only indication that things are different in the mortal realm is that this stretch of winter is long enough for it to be a cause of concern for even the other gods

modern hearth
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I also assume the flow of time runs different on Olympus/in Hades than it does on the mortal surface.

tired burrow
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ah

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how do i get those fists?

modern hearth
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Finish a run.

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Win or lose, doesn't matter.

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The cost is 8 keys to unlock.

tired burrow
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oh okay thanks alot

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ah

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sweet

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thanks uwu

azure island
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Silly question: how to unlock the excalibur?

remote knot
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I WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO ASK THAT LMAO

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Oh

thorn raft
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Can a person with server permissions pin up a message of somebody saying that Aspect of Arthur is unlocked by talking to Nyx after finishing a run? Most of this channel has just become people asking the same question.

remote knot
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Oh you need to finish a run

icy sinew
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just go in and kermit suicide

azure island
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Thank you.

ivory yacht
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i did it multiple times and it didnt work

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and i have all other aspects of the sword

remote knot
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Guan yu?

ivory yacht
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have it

remote knot
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Wierd

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Maybe it's a chance

zenith leaf
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are you still getting new dialogues with nyx

ivory yacht
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yep

zenith leaf
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you probably need to exhaust those

ivory yacht
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ahh will try

azure island
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Oh, so you don't actually need to attempt patricide? That's how I understood "finishing a run."

remote knot
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Lol

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Ya

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That was what I assumed

ivory yacht
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i won a run too and it didnt work, still new dialogues

supple dagger
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is "Ruthless" supposed to be coming up a lot every time I attack? o .o

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or did I forget to read something again?

remote knot
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Thnx

icy sinew
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i think its the um gain dmg if you dodge just before something attacks you @supple dagger

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not certain but i think its that

supple dagger
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oh okay?

fair light
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@azure island Unlocking the Aspect of Arthur requires ||first having unlocked the Aspect of Guan Yu, then having invested 5 or more Titan Blood into any Blade aspects. Nyx should tell you more in a conversation soon after that||.

feral hamlet
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Hey i can't see the new weapon in the house ?

signal palm
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i loved the tiny vermin fight holy heck that was great

icy sinew
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yea

fair light
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@feral hamlet Assuming you have unlocked the other weapons already, you may need to complete an escape attempt first (whether you successfully escape or not).

deep spoke
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Err, how much Blood?

feral hamlet
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Yeah

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thanks buddy !

deep spoke
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Please spoil the exact amount, my Blood store is very limited.

feral hamlet
viral kiln
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i hope its under 9

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thats how much i have spent on sword

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bow gang wya

high sparrow
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IS excalibers special meant to slow projectiles?

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(Doesn't say that in the text anywhere)

bleak osprey
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just going to do a thing real quick....

fair light
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@high sparrow Yes, totally intended. The description says your Special 'creates a defensive aura that slows foes' but does not go into specific detail due to space constraints.

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(We can certainly take another look at the text it if players find there is a disconnect here.)

indigo cipher
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there's a nice looking aura thing around the player's feet when you are in the zone

viral kiln
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oh so i can just call it aspect of dio

indigo cipher
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i think it communicates it well enough

opaque lichen
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Quick question Greg concerning the Aspect of Arthur ||You don't need to do the Nyx and Chaos sidequest to unlock it, correct?||

deep spoke
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Hey uh, Greg... mind spoiling the exact blood amount?

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Please?

viral kiln
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naice

fair light
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@opaque lichen Correct, it's unrelated.

opaque lichen
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coolio

feral hamlet
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i think the amount's gonna be 3 or 4

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i can see that

viral kiln
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its prolly more

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simply cus just ||getting skelly keepsake takes fully maxed zag sword||

feral hamlet
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WTFFFFF the boon aspect changed

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oh god

fair light
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@deep spoke No problem, it's ||5 or more Titan Blood invested in the Blade; doesn't matter which Aspects||.

feral hamlet
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oh god

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no no no no no why

deep spoke
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Oh, thanks!

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I'm technically past that, but I somehow don't have the conversation. I think it got blocked by another Nyx event, though

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Conversation with Meg blocked it :c

fair light
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Yeah, it still won't necessarily be the very next conversation from Nyx, but it should be relatively soon.

feral hamlet
indigo cipher
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hey greg, am i allowed to ask if this is confirmation that all the final aspects are going to be from other mythology? obviously this might be assuming a lot.

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thanks for making such a great game too

feral hamlet
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Oh gooood

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the update's so great

indigo cipher
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understand if that's not something you're able to reveal

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just wanted to ask in case

fair light
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Hey, yeah we don't want to say too much about the remaining legendary Aspects! I think it's reasonable to say though that part of what makes them special is they don't come from the familiar gods and heroes of Greek myth.

warm ocean
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Ooh wow it's Greg

indigo cipher
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cool!

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thanks for answering

warm ocean
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Keep up the good work team

molten gazelle
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Seems like things are locked to 4 aspects, but if there were ever to be more an aspect of cu chuliann for varatha would be awesome

indigo cipher
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also please give the guy who made the new charon shop ui a raise

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because it's just amazing

shy nimbus
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petition to have a musical weapon squirtdevious

zenith leaf
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new ui is pretty besides the house contractor i think

shy nimbus
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preferably a lyre where each "attack" plays a musical note squirtheh

deep spoke
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Please add Egypt

molten gazelle
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I'd be down for that @shy nimbus

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@deep spoke YES

deep spoke
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Egyptian mythology and history have some of the strongest ties to ancient Greece.

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It'd be a damned shame not to represent that culture eventually.

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Too late for a khopesh, and no room for a scepter, but... a bow, maybe?

molten gazelle
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Bow could have an aspect of neith maybe, hunter goddess and weaver of fate

viral kiln
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(the smite lore is heavy in this one)

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exdee

molten gazelle
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Hahaha

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Smite only encouraged my love of mythology and brought me to this game

indigo cipher
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tbh i was expecting aspect of masamune for sword

viral kiln
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i feel ya

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just stopped playing smite a long time ago ;-;

molten gazelle
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Big sad

shy nimbus
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The problem with making a game based on real life myths is that we mortals expect everything and everyone lol

molten gazelle
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Very true

zenith leaf
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i feel like all of the final aspects are going to be based on famous mortals, not gods

fair burrow
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Devs can only do so much

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And yea most likely

viral kiln
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guan yu was refreshing tho

shy nimbus
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And the Supergiant team is like... smol

viral kiln
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and totally unexpected

indigo cipher
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aspect of orcrist

molten gazelle
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Fair, but Guan is technically a god? in a way? still not entirely sure

fair burrow
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Or at least non-greek based deities

zenith leaf
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he was deified after death

red moss
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yo how do you unlock new aspect 😉

fair burrow
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And arthurian stuff is technically mythology

dreamy narwhal
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or the gauntlets?

viral kiln
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nah

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guan is a general

indigo cipher
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guan yu was definitely worshipped to an extent as a god

molten gazelle
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scroll up greg mentions it

indigo cipher
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from what i understand

viral kiln
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who was raised to the level of a god

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he was a man

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who existed

molten gazelle
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Very fair

viral kiln
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and his military exploits got him recognition

dreamy narwhal
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Arthur was technically a real dood at one point. That's also probably true of many greek heroic and divine figures.

molten gazelle
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Bow gonna be aspect of lars anderson

indigo cipher
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from wikipedia

He is still worshipped by many Chinese people today in mainland China, Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong and among many overseas Chinese communities.

viral kiln
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during warring states china had this idea of great general under the heavens

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guan held that title

dreamy narwhal
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Uh, so, am I just dumb or is it not immediatly obvs where to buy the gauntlets?

zenith leaf
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there are a lot of legendary hindu archers but idk if they'll use them since it's an existing religion

viral kiln
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he was basically considered the patron saint of war

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RAMA

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RAMA

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RAMA

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gimme

dreamy narwhal
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Or how to unlock the arthur aspect?

viral kiln
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(im indian)

molten gazelle
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Rama would actually be quite awesome

viral kiln
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check pinned @dreamy narwhal

broken pumice
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Arjunaaaaa

viral kiln
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indian longbows are usually slow and heavy

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with hella firepower

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at least the way they're portrayed in history

molten gazelle
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Longer charge for more damage would be interesting

zenith leaf
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all of the legendary aspects so far have been slow and heavy so

viral kiln
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i mean guan is more about strategy

indigo cipher
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slow and heavy to be harder to use

viral kiln
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its not slow

indigo cipher
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guan is also about using the special and the charge attack, not even attacking lol

viral kiln
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its just if you try to charge it you should expect damage

fair burrow
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Aspect of rama would be sick

zenith leaf
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maybe a bow that has a long charge time but the charge isnt interrupted by dashing

molten gazelle
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From the little ive used guan's it seems to rely heavily on striking at the right time and mixing in charges

viral kiln
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Charge storage

zenith leaf
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since that's the reason explosive bow is like almost unusable

fair burrow
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Yea guan makes u think more

deep spoke
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Oh hey. Aspect being an Indian bow sounds plausible.

viral kiln
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now that would be cool

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my question is

deep spoke
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Does anyone have ideas for an Egyptian aspect?

viral kiln
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what would rail aspect be

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?

fair burrow
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Uhhhhh

zenith leaf
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aspect of rambo

molten gazelle
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That's the trickiest one

viral kiln
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F

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i kinda want a norse weapon

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for rail

fair burrow
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Aspect of jormungandr?

viral kiln
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since spear is already gone i can put gungnir in the corner

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big sad

molten gazelle
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rip gungnir

fair burrow
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Yea rip gungnir

zenith leaf
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who's gonna be the big famous punch boy who gets fist aspect

molten gazelle
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Aspect of loki- the gun isn't actually a gun anymore its a random weapon you get each room switch

viral kiln
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too random for this game

atomic forge
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Aspect of Kiryu.

molten gazelle
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yeah was more of a joke than anything haha

viral kiln
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figured

molten gazelle
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Shield probably has a lot of options i just cant think of any atm

signal palm
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I feel like Aspect of Jimmu has a chance

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maybe like Svalinn for shield

tiny oyster
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Shield COULD be Ajax if they stay greek with it.

viral kiln
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i doubt that

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but wouldnt complain

tiny oyster
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Or Trojan I guess

viral kiln
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i would like a roman aspect

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for the lols

molten gazelle
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Could work but yeah doubt they'll stay Grecian

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hahaha roman aspect would be fun

viral kiln
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tho the biggest oOf wtf moment

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would have to be mayan

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rail could be aspect of xbalanque

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poison bolts

molten gazelle
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Mayan would be very interesting just artistically how they'd change the weapon

deep spoke
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It seems like most Egyptian figures are actually gods - the only references I can find to folk heroes are magicians.

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And RIP magic weapon

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But, maybe Horus shield

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Sun related, maybe a beam?

molten gazelle
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He is the defender so that would be fitting

deep spoke
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Charge the beam by blocking damage, unleash the sun's power with Special.

molten gazelle
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Egyptian myth has a lot of creatures and monster that could work maybe? not a legendary figure but something like aspect of the sphinx could be cool

viral kiln
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Cleopatra

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just do it supergiant

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charm shield

molten gazelle
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Poison damage could work too. Maybe not for shield but one of the others

viral kiln
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well yh

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poison rail

fair burrow
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Aspect of the sphinx for the fists maybe

viral kiln
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aspect of xbalanque

fair burrow
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Aspect of xbal is a great idea tho

viral kiln
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he is a hero

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not a god

molten gazelle
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I like the idea of using pharaohs for Egyptian

viral kiln
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Ramses for fists

molten gazelle
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and i'm totally down for xbal

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I could see it

viral kiln
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(great priest imhotep is stuck in my head)

tepid granite
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so how do you unlock excalibur?

viral kiln
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talk to nyx

molten gazelle
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Greg posted about it earlier

tiny oyster
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Legendary Egyptian aspect for the gauntlets: Claws of Sekhmet?

viral kiln
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or bastet

deep spoke
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Oh, poison rail...

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That would be sick

tiny oyster
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Sekhmet was the angrier one, fits better imo

fair burrow
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Oooo yea bastet

deep spoke
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Oh damn

molten gazelle
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Both good, though we think they wont be gods per se since current aspects are heroes not gods

viral kiln
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gimme dem bleed claws

deep spoke
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Cat claws?

zenith leaf
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how would you make a poison rail not overlap with dionysus

deep spoke
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Give it to me

viral kiln
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make it a debuff

deep spoke
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@molten gazelle the thing is, Egyptian lore doesn't have nearly as many mortal heroes.

tiny oyster
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Problem is that ancient Egypt had way more lor- yeah that

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It's all about the gods doing their thing

molten gazelle
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Or maybe the rail doesn't do flat damage on hit and its all dot

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with poison

viral kiln
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something like acrid from RoR2

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would be cool

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where you drop the tick

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and it bounces to multiple targets

deep spoke
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There are a few heroes, but it's mainly a couple of magicians, and heka doesn't really translate well to our aspects

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Unless...

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They did go absolute madlad and implemented a magic aspect for a weapon

molten gazelle
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@deep spoke you're right and i would not be opposed to a god aspect for egypt at all

deep spoke
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Completely rework it into a blend of spells and weapon attack

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I would take that for the Rail

molten gazelle
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Me too

deep spoke
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Or the fists

modern hearth
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I'd looooove an Egyptian aspect

deep spoke
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That said

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I think they should.

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I mean...

molten gazelle
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If not a god it should def be a pharaoh

deep spoke
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Just a note here, I am fairly sure heka and Hecate have related origins?

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The Greek connection runs pretty deep

modern hearth
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There was a time when Geeks populated Ancient Egypt and some myths combined and new ones were made.