#h1-story-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 105

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:33 PM

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You have work to do Panda, move your ass!

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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shadesmile

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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:C

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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I live 5 minutes away from my job so I have some time lol

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:34 PM

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Bruh

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That's living the dream right there

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:35 PM

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0;34

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what work can be in this time

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:36 PM

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I work evenings at a pizza shop

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in addition to my job in a school

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Sounds nice actually

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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now i understood i'm hungry(((

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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But back on spoilery-topic, I think Hades is trying to prepare Zag for a conflict with someone

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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why are u doing this to me

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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Perhaps even Demeter herself

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:37 PM

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well it's not his fault

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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(they did fight over Persephone, now imagine how she'd react finding out that she has a grandson)

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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So in the end Pesephone is actually the villain in the story...

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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she is not back to her mother

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villian?

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I think Persephone might be the unwitting instigator of doom

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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she left Hades cus he is intolerable jerk

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:38 PM

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But what if the Olympian that is coming isn't Demeter but Persephone?

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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True, but I have this inner feeling that we may not see new biome

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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and I'm pretty sure she left because the Underworld and plantlife technically don't get along

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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and she didnt back on Olimp cus Zeus would send her back

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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Yeah, Zeus would go "You need to go back to my brother. Now."

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:39 PM

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I don't think Demeter would care too much about the underworld if she knew that Pesephone was not there anymore

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Demeter would want Persephone with her

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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it's obvious Demeter is looking for her child

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Basically "come back to Olympus or else."

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Yeah but the letter never mentioned anything about Demeter though

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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but she has no power in the underworld

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Persephone might just be tired of her mother's helicopter parenting

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Demeter on Olymp - Persephone wont back on Olimp

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right?

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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and wants to live somewhere away from that family drama

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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Or she might be tired of her ribbon trips back to back to hell and olympus

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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for me she just tired of her husband

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I don't think she's tired of Hades persay

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or else she would've probably said something about it and been less diplomatic in her letter

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The fact that she asked for him to care for Ceberus is telling

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I think she just felt stifled in the Underworld, a trait that Zag also shares

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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"You are disgusting boob and moron. I'm leaving you!"

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like that?

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Bruh, if she didn't ask him to take care of Cerberus I'd be mad. Just look at him

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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More like "I'm sick and tired of both you and my mother controlling me. I am going to leave and be by myself, Goodbye."

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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The 3 of them totally care about Cerberus

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Ceberus is best doggo

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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He's the family's doggo

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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cus Cerberus is a goodest boy

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:43 PM

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His name technically means Spot

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Hades named his dog a common doggo name

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So I don't think he's as bad as we think

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It's just that Zag is a perspectively biased narrarator

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(and Hades is a grump so that doesn't help)

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But I think Persephone intended for either Hades or her son to find her. Why give a hint to where she might be otherwise.

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Nah, I still think that Hades is that type of person that would lock someone so that he wouldn't lose them

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Well he doesn't do that to Zag

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The fact that he just made the Pact on the door instead of y'know

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shutting it

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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and kept all his weapon

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:45 PM

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Hades felt so sad when he got defeated by Zag the first time

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:46 PM

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if u find her tall Cerberus is ok?

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:46 PM

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Either he's the worlds grumpiest tsundere or isn't that bad of a father once he deals with his wife leaving

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Yeah, that line itself kinda screams

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that he may want to say even more

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:46 PM

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I mean, if the love of your life left you then you'd be pretty shaken about it

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Imagine this:

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Yeah, he probably misses her but accepts that she left

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so he's not going to ask her to return

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(or guilt trip her to return)

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I think Hades could be the best husbando and worst dad at the same exact time lol

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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Hades is too proud to ask her back

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or searching for her

coarse stone Jan 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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I think he's more accepting that she wanted to leave, he is definitely very faithful and devoted to her. So he accepts her decision.

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anyways, time for me to head out, see everyone later!

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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he is very stubborn and conservative.

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:48 PM

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The person that you loved most, got pregnant of your baby, gave birth, left a letter saying that they decided to leave while leaving their baby behind. Now you have no one to love but your only child. That child, however, wants above anything else to leave as well. What would you do?

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:49 PM

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he cant change

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@lavish frost pierce him with my spear!

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everytime hi tries to run away

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:51 PM

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That's why he cannot accept losing another loved one

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He has to kill Zag everytime he gets too close to leaving because he doesn't want to be alone

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Quite tragic

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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"I have only you. And you have only me" - Lord Hades

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 9:52 PM

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Now I pity Hades. He is in difficult position but just a reminder that your trauma does not allow you to be a jerk.

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:53 PM

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I mean, would you be open about it?

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Go to your son and be like. You can't leave because of <selfish reason>.

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and we all know Hades is not that much of an open guy after all

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Being the god of the underworld can make you quite... cold hearted

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 9:55 PM

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and he cant lose his face

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Never heard of a underworld god in other mythologies being all sweet and happy

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Maybe Hel from norse mythos but only the child version ofc

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 9:56 PM

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True

merry sorrel Jan 17, 2020, 9:57 PM

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I remember one culture where the underworld god couple are sweet and happy... but their way of being sweet include feeding worms to the dead

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because they enjoy it and did not realize that maybe the human dead do not want to eat worms

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 9:59 PM

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Yeah, being sweet and happy can be relative af

burnt harbor Jan 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Welp I lost against Hades second bar

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How many lives he has?

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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2 phases

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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2

burnt harbor Jan 17, 2020, 10:01 PM

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Oh

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Welp, maybe next time

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Did you have Pos' boon?

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:03 PM

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@burnt harbor what build did u have

burnt harbor Jan 17, 2020, 10:04 PM

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Ok, gun with Unlimited ammo and 3 bombs

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Plus Zeus ultimate

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Plus Ares Dash

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:04 PM

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what attack

burnt harbor Jan 17, 2020, 10:04 PM

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The arrows from Artemis

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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You need Athena's dash no matter what

burnt harbor Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Why?

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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yeah Athena dash is op

burnt harbor Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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What do they do?

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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allows you to be almost invincible

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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Deflects attacks

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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and deflect all while dash

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:05 PM

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They deal dmg but also reflect incoming projectiles

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But that's #h1-builds-and-combat topic anyways

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Hold up ! I'm just catching up with greek myhtology

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"After Hades abducted Persephone, Demeter grieved. The earth became barren through her neglect; thus, the winter season and its manifestations were a reflection of Demeter’s emotional state during Persephone’s absence."

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But in the game Hades says Persephone escaped , but its winter outside

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and the next week patch Supergiant teased us by saying "expect the unexpected!" aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:18 PM

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failbag old news dude

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Because Zeus got Hermes to make a deal with Hades to get Persephone to go back to Olympus so that winter could cease, but the deal was that they would ribbon Persephone back and forth so that everyone would be happy

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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we discussed it thousand times

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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im sorry 😦

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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but u know what

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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i am just learning greek mythology 😦

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and just wanted to share my news ::(

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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if persephone left hades

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Nah it's cool

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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wont discuss again 😦

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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it's ok

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:19 PM

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Don't listen to gznm

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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yeah i'm old grumping man

iron flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Ionian you can discuss it again, don't be discouraged. We get all sorts of people with different levels of video game and mythology knowledge. 😄

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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dont listen to me

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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Dawww thank you guys ❤️

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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❤️

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Now watch me break that heart

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jk

iron flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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me at 8 learning about greek mythology: they have a PANTHEON???
the ghost of an ancient greek behind me: You Tiny Idiot

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:20 PM

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lol

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Haha

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:21 PM

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@raven gale its fine and always good to share your thoughts! gznm is just a meanie

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:21 PM

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I'd be so pissed at people when they would be like "Cronos, the god of time, was Zeus' father"

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Bruh

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:21 PM

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Aww pls dont be mean towards gzmn , now i feel bad

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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failbag

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Yeah, now switch the bullying target hehe

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Also , I gotta say , I wasn't super into Greek Myth , but this game made me haha

iron flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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No no!! Sorry I was just poking fun at the idea of ancient greeks rolling their eyes at us as we keep retelling their stuff wrong.

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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That's good

iron flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Handshakes all around folks, sorry if I hurt you gznm. 🤝

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:22 PM

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Yeah, we know more than them so...

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:23 PM

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i'm too old to be hurt by stranger)

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:23 PM

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Greek mythology is cruel yet interesting

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:23 PM

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gznm: This heart was already hurt too many times...

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I'm sorry gznm ❤️

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:23 PM

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no i do not think so

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so what we are about

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:24 PM

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idk, this chat goes off topic in the blink of an eye

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:25 PM

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but we are on topic

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the topic of ancient Greece

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:25 PM

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i mean it's #h1-story-discussion

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:25 PM

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and the smooth grease that keeps the boulder rolling bouldy

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:25 PM

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Greek mythology was my fav book even 20-25 years ago when i was a kid. It was children adaptation but still had some cruel moments)

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and now it just refreshing old memories

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sometimes

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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petition to create a channel to talk about greek mythos

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I liked egyptian stuff better

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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offtopic

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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I blame myself for not learning mythology.

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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well i didnt have egyptian myths book

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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petition for the next Supergiant game to be based on egyptian mythology!

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:26 PM

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AGREE

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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I like the Roman names (like Jupiter instead of Zeus) cause im a huuuugee astronomy nerd

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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Norse mythos might actually be the funniest out there

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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☀️ ARISE, SON OF RA ☀️

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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i would prefer something like Transistor style

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some different future

karmic vine Jan 17, 2020, 10:27 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/doW9vaI
TIL you can get more than one DD from chaos boons

Imgur

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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WHAT

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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2 in a row?

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what the

karmic vine Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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yar

raven gale Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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I have YET to get a death defiance from chaos...

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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THIS IS ILLEAGAL

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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i do not think u need it anyway

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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huh, I thought you couldn't get multiple boons of the same rarity and type from Chaos

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:28 PM

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HP looks cooler

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Yup

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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This man getting legendaries while I'm busting my ass to get a epic boon...

karmic vine Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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I had 3 dash attack buffs (2 epic 1 rare) during a nemesis sword run, plus the double hit daedalus buff
I button mashed most of the way through Elysium and Styx after

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so yeah you can

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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HP? But then you won't have five death defiances!

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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yeah i had 3 dash attack and 1 attack too

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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Styx is basically button smashing

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:29 PM

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hell, grab the tooth and get SIX

lavish frost Jan 17, 2020, 10:30 PM

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If you can't kill the rats with 1 hit then you're better off dead

lament flame Jan 17, 2020, 10:30 PM

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More DD to god of DD

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 10:30 PM

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💀 residentzag 💀

celest cosmos Jan 17, 2020, 10:59 PM

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I just want to see it once, no need to be so greedy .-.

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 10:59 PM

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what?

celest cosmos Jan 17, 2020, 10:59 PM

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The Chaos buff lol sorry

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 11:00 PM

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extra DD?

celest cosmos Jan 17, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yeah, the legendary buff

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I'm like 90 something runs in without seeing it once, go Chaos every time I see it because I just want to get the damn challenge done

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 11:01 PM

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saw it twice for 101 run

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 11:20 PM

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@celest cosmos do egg runs

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40% rarity increase

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plus your mirror rarity boosters

flint marten Jan 17, 2020, 11:47 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/457639241615409173/667877625267486769/unknown.png?width=861&height=485 there's meg in the back I'm crying 😂 😂

fickle yoke Jan 17, 2020, 11:48 PM

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it's a REAL trouble Tomatos

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run

junior field Jan 17, 2020, 11:52 PM

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he knows that sharing is caring, and so does Meg

uneven loom Jan 17, 2020, 11:56 PM

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that’s what I call I duo boon 😉

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 12:19 AM

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I love how, if you romance Than first then romance Meg, there will be a convo that essentially is just Zag asking Than if he was cool with Zag and Meg being a thing, since most mortals aren't

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and Than's response is essentially,

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"*squinty eyes* Nah, mortals are weird"

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Me: pops in
Someone: Supergiant Games, next game, Egyptian mytholgy
Me: ASCEND SO THAT WE CAN DEFEAT SET!

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Also should I lose a DD in order to GET the DD boon from Chaos?

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 12:27 AM

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only if you need it the dd boon to fulfill that one prophecy, otherwise no

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:28 AM

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Ah okay. Because I was thinking maybe I needed more boons from Chaos.

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or something

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 12:31 AM

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@supple dagger you can get Chaos DD even if u have all ur usual DD untouched

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:32 AM

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How? o .o

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 12:34 AM

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...

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i do not understand

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:35 AM

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The last boon on the list of Chaos boons is the one that awards me +1 DD

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 12:35 AM

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yes

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:35 AM

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however, I've cleared a run where I visited him three times and I've seen nothing but the same rewards I've already gotten.

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 12:35 AM

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i saw that boon only 2 times

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for 100 runs

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Well, I'm gonna attempt losing one on purpose when I come across a gate and see if that helps forcing that as a possible boon, since the wiki says rarity doesn't affect its probability of appearin.

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 12:37 AM

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it cant help

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Chaos can give you that boon even if u have all ur DD

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https://imgur.com/a/doW9vaI

Imgur

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look here

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Guy has 3 dd. 4th from chaos and Chaos just gives him 5th

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2 chaos legendaries in 1 run)

karmic vine Jan 18, 2020, 12:41 AM

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yeah that was me <.<

atomic forge Jan 18, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Imagine the patroclus value

supple dagger Jan 18, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Yeah, some people managed to get that many boons. I've only managed 3 a run, so...

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 12:50 AM

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But yeah, number of times you got to chaos or how many DDs you have doesn't impact it. It's legitimately all random, which entirely fits the character but also makes it the worst to try to get

karmic vine Jan 18, 2020, 12:53 AM

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ended up actually needing one of those because any run without aphrodite is a lot harder for me to finish without dying

pliant hinge Jan 18, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I wonder if we'll ever get any excuse besides prince Zag was giga unlucky for ending games

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And whether we'll get proper reason we keep starting over

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Or the game"finishes" and suddenly get hit by SGG that "thank you for your participation, the real renovation Hades was up to was this game, and we have completed it. Zagreus will now escape once beating Hades"

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:06 AM

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if Zag is god of rebirth

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so it's just what he do

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dies and rises again

lament shadow Jan 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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So will I be able to unlock skelly's 32 heat statue if I did a 32 heat run prior or does it need to be in order?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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i think u can do it without beating 31 and lesser

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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It's Hades gonna be the FB of the complete game?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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fb?

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Final boss

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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well he is final boos for now

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and it seems all will be that way after all

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Shame, I was hoping for one of the Olympus gods

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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well

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lets see

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Titans mb

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not olympian

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@burnt harbor so how is your progress?

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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I managed to face Hades twice

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So meh

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Maybe in a few days

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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not bad

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my 1st win was

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Hunting blades

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i had no good idea about boons and synergie

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i just took some random stuff

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and tried to make it work

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and when i suddenly had this thing - it was something

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i even didn have time to use weapon

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:40 AM

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My first time was like "I'll change this damn weapon asap to get that spear"

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:40 AM

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shadesmile

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I hope they make that the more you defeat Theseus, the more of your banners appear

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:50 AM

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shadesmile yes it's kinda disappointing

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i beat this loud guy so many times but i have only 1 soul is my fan

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:51 AM

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He's the second most annoying boss fight in the game imo

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Tisiphone is #1

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Hydra is annoying as in boring

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I mean

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Muuuuuuuuuuurder

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Hydra is easy if you know what you're doing

merry sorrel Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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^

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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I said boring, not hard

merry sorrel Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 AM

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as in, dead before it gets boring

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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It's fun imo

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:53 AM

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@burnt harbor u didnt try Ex Hydra

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failbag

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i cant beat her without losing DD

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only with Chiron

burnt harbor Jan 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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It's just always the same

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:54 AM

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yes it same

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but hard

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:56 AM

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The easiest way to kill the Hydra is Spear + stacking cast

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You pop those cast on it and you just go to town

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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failbag words "spear" and "easy" are not going together with me

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:57 AM

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You just stand there watching its hp bar drop real fast

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bruh

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Spear is easy to use

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Best start in the game

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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failbag what max heat u did with it?

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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rn I'm basically just trying to get everyone's affection to maximum

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So I'm basically not even caring about heat

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:58 AM

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affection?

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Yeah, giving elixir

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Nectar?

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Yeah

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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but there is no much sense

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also u can do both

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Dude, there is no sense when you're talking about me, first rule

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 1:59 AM

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playing more heat to grab more blood and Diamonds

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:00 AM

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ik

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BUT AFFECTION DOE

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i want to be loved

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;;

bleak osprey Jan 18, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Mood™️

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:03 AM

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yes but later if u want to have some bounties game may be boring cus you alredy did much other

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hm

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Chaos shield is kinda similar to chiron i must say

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u charge ur aa and use Q

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also use them to proc Status

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:04 AM

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I didn't like the Chaos Shield very much at first

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But maybe I'll give it a try with some upgrades

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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well it my 2nd run with it

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i didnt like 1st

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even i had good boons

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:05 AM

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Chaos is the one that gives your especial one more attack right?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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u can throw more shields with special

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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You dash and your especial gets one more shield attack

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:06 AM

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after u charge ur AA

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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Is the sword even worth leveling up?

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The default sword is really useless

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:07 AM

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yes

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Poseidon and Nemesis is good weapon

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even if i'm not good with sword

jovial fossil Jan 18, 2020, 2:27 AM

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Zagreus aspect is never good for any of the weapons, but they're cheap and always active
every other aspect either changes how the weapon functions or is a conditional effect

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Why Zag aspects are so bad? Mb alecto was right about Zag is god of trash?

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:28 AM

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Zag aspect on spear is valuable

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Then it really isn't on any other weapon than the spear

jovial fossil Jan 18, 2020, 2:30 AM

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I don't think zag spear is good
you can already hit almost anything on the screen with the spear's base range, and the speed increase is canceled out by the increased range the spear has to travel

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so zag spear is only good for sniping things offscreen, which only matters if the room is large enough for there to be an offscreen and is very hard to do

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:32 AM

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If you can hit things from far away for free dmg then you're on the winning side

jovial fossil Jan 18, 2020, 2:32 AM

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yes but the spear can already do that

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:33 AM

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But not as far as it would with Zagreus aspect

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:33 AM

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i liked rail

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:34 AM

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If you didn't level it up then you wouldn't even see the difference

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:34 AM

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but more i use Eris more i like it

jovial fossil Jan 18, 2020, 2:34 AM

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the effective range of zag aspect and regular spear is effectively the same

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or very nearly the same

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:35 AM

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So you use Achilles aspect on the spear?

jovial fossil Jan 18, 2020, 2:35 AM

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i have leveled zag spear and done a run or two with it, and the range barely does anything
it's even less of a change than zag rail

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I've used a lot of achillies spear, but i've recently started using hades spear and it's also fun
spin attack into explosive launcher spam is very good kill power

static adder Jan 18, 2020, 2:37 AM

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Zag spear is fine for me

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I don’t really want to invest in Achilles

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Also I’ve heard arguments for both

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:38 AM

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i dont want to waste anything on spear

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have max Hades though(

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want it back!

static adder Jan 18, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I want at least 1 high level aspect per weapon

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Zag aspect + infinite attack chain on spear is the dream

static adder Jan 18, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I don’t know if I should invest in hades aspect

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:39 AM

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i do not like spear

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:39 AM

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Because you're a nerd. HAHA

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gottim

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But seriously

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Spear is easy to use dude

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Easier than that is rail

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:42 AM

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i made 13 heat rail

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and died 0 heat spear

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:43 AM

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Maybe you have a problem dodging idk

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Maybe you just feel more comfortable at attacking from long distances

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:45 AM

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mb

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cus i made 13 heat bow too

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Which weapons do you main

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:46 AM

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how i start shield

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:46 AM

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Shield is basically all Athena and Ares

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Spam the especial all the time even if there is only 1 enemy

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If you can get the boon that makes the dash even faster then make sure to get it

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:48 AM

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http://prntscr.com/qpbyc1

Lightshot

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lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Void shield can deflect Hades' laser beams so I've heard

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:48 AM

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oh i didnt beat 13 with bow only 12

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:49 AM

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How dare you lie to me then

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You said 13 with such confiction

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fishman not happy

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:49 AM

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failbag sorry i forgot

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:50 AM

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gilmanrage

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:50 AM

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need more 10 diamonds for song

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:52 AM

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You need to pay Orpheus diamonds for a song?

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BRUH

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That's some expensive song there

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:53 AM

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i only left 2

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but i never saw Zagreus Hymn

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so it one for now

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for 10

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God of dead

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:54 AM

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The first time I've requested a song he was all like

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Thats a good song you chose but I song sing

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He literally told me before to choose a song for him to sing but then he goes 180 on me

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:55 AM

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shadesmile it was a good joke

lavish frost Jan 18, 2020, 2:56 AM

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It was so unexpected that I was like YOU TOLD ME TO!

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I was really mad

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Aint gonna give him no diamonds

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or nectar

still kayak Jan 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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5 more days! Cant wait

static adder Jan 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Ikr

misty arch Jan 18, 2020, 6:09 AM

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Heeeeck yeah! I almost defeated hades on my first try, but I was taken off guard by the second phase; it was down to the wire though! I had been stuck on Theeseus and Minotaur for so long. Loved the last area. I had such an op build with my gun

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Grats! Luck will be on your side next time.

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Elysium is the hardest area in the game, I think. All enemies there are so annoying and nasty

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Except Strongbows maybe

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 6:40 AM

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that room with perma strongbows and flame wheels

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are the worst

misty arch Jan 18, 2020, 6:50 AM

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yeah, and the boss at the end is brutal, which is probably why they are my favorite so far. Very reminiscent of Ornstein and Smough. I wonder if that was an influence or not. Heavy bruiser commin at you, with a smaller character that you have to contend with, typically by separating them. Where Ornstein was fast and could close the distance, Theeseus has the range to hit you from almost everywhere

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 6:51 AM

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yup!

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the only boss honestly that has no connection to Zag is any way

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is the Hydra

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who just feels kind of out of place?

misty arch Jan 18, 2020, 6:54 AM

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hmm. It is odd that he's the only one that you can't have a conversation with, but I do like that he's in the game as a boss. I think it's good to have that beastial mythological creature to fight. Although it's a long fight. THe last time I fought the hydra, though, I killed it VERY quickly and I'm starting to wonder if it's balanced so that the more you progress overall, the stronger you get, and the faster and cleaner you can get through the hydra. Maybe it's designed to be a massive endurance drain for your run, until you get powerful enough to just clear it very quickly.

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man, it's hard to type without cursing.

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I had to write that paragraph twice.

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old habits

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 6:56 AM

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honestly the hydra is the easiest boss once you get the patterns down

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once you know what boons to look out for and understand your weapon well

uneven loom Jan 18, 2020, 6:57 AM

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i hope there's another "bullet hell" style boss like EM furies

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 6:57 AM

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hydra usually dies extremely fast, only delayed due to HP-gating every 25% of its health

uneven loom Jan 18, 2020, 6:58 AM

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but way harder. when i first fought meg she made me think of touhou and I still see the resemblance. i hope there's antoher boss with big projectile patterns

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 6:59 AM

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on the one hand: could be cool!

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on the other: athena's blessings are a thing

uneven loom Jan 18, 2020, 6:59 AM

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true lol. the boss can still have melee obv

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but I think another boss that's like megara would be cool.

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 7:19 AM

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yup!@

mighty wraith Jan 18, 2020, 7:23 AM

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yeah I feel the hydra should interact the same way cerberus does

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where the narrator says what it does

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 7:32 AM

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"The Hydra viciously prepares to attack Zagreus for his thoughtless quip."

"...Why do I get the feeling he WASN'T going to do— oh well here we go."

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"The Hydra seems unamused at the Princes' attempts for peace-seeking conversation."

"Thanks for the support, old man."

mighty wraith Jan 18, 2020, 7:38 AM

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yeah something like that

rough swift Jan 18, 2020, 7:55 AM

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"The Prince decides to check if he knows how to speak Hydra. And whether he can placate the creature's ever building rage."

"I... do? Well, no harm in trying, I guess. horrible Hydra growl"

Hydra growls back

"Instead, he has appeared to have angered it even further."

Fight Starts

"You planned that, didn't you, old man,?"

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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The Hydra is super easy until you turn on Extreme Hydra Mode, at which point it's...not.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I finally met Meg in Zag's bedroom second time yay! And now I've got Meg's companion - Batty. From her description seems like Batty deals really nasty damage

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:43 AM

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I chuckle every time I get the "stay away from me or I'll have your head...s?" line.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:45 AM

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EM Hydra is my nightmare. This is second boss battle in game in which I have a high chance to lose DD

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:45 AM

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The problem with all the companions for me is that Sisyphus's is so clearly the best because it heals you. Damage is okay, but there are lots of ways to do damage. Healing is hard to come by.

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:46 AM

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em hydra is dangerous but honestly it’s so fun, I’m bad at avoiding lava and it makes me give effort

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:46 AM

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Agree

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:46 AM

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One game ago I made it through EM Hydra with full health, thanks to a late Bouldy heal. And then I lose half of it stepping in lava trying to pick up the rest of the coins and stuff.

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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F lol

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that’s me

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Yeah, EM hydra is way more fun, even if it's a royal bastard and a half.

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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I’ve lost a dd trying to get to the next room standing in lava 😔

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:47 AM

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Standard Hydra you can just crouch behind a pillar half the time.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:48 AM

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Floor is lava but literally

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:48 AM

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EM miniboss Asterius is, oddly, easier than original recipe, since you don't have the gorgons.

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But he makes up for it in the rematch.

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:49 AM

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oh man em thesus/asterius fight is SO good

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thesus’ maniac laughter always makes me laugh too

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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I nearly laughed myself to death at the dialogue the first time.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:50 AM

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Now Asterius in both versions (EM and standart) don't summon gorgons. Also EM Theuseus is so easy

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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YES it’s so funny

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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In this golden mask Theseus looks like a clown

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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and then Achilles later said thesus’ outfit was for someone who was too prideful to realize it or something along those lines

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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I love Theseus. He's such an a-hole, and yet so devoted to his big bull bro that you can't hate him.

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:51 AM

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love everyone bashing on thesus

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:53 AM

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Huh, didn't realize the dropped the gorgons from standard Asterius.

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My favorite pacts are the boss/miniboss upgrades, though. Just really nice evolutions of the original fights all around.

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Except for Butterfly Ball. I'm not a fan of Butterfly Ball But Two.

fallow bronze Jan 18, 2020, 8:57 AM

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oh I’m glad to hear miniboss ones are good! I’ve been really hesitant to try because I lost a run to the butterfly ball the first time I tried it and I’ve feared that room ever since

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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Middle Management Barge of Death is insane

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 8:59 AM

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It is.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Once I just straightly die on it. Lost all my DDs

haughty carbon Jan 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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I hate middle management for Asphodel.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 9:01 AM

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Absolutly agree with you

haughty carbon Jan 18, 2020, 9:02 AM

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I am fine with double butterflies

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But not fine with big wave attack from a stonehead and teleporting mediusa head.

patent flicker Jan 18, 2020, 9:03 AM

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Oh, that’s the best one, though. No additional enemies, just new moves.

haughty carbon Jan 18, 2020, 9:04 AM

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Still kind of feels like a kick in the gut if you have a sword or shield run

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Shield with deflect attack is actually good against Barge of Dead

chilly shard Jan 18, 2020, 9:49 AM

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is there a point to the skelly statues?

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 9:50 AM

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bragging rights

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you also make Skelly proud

pearl plank Jan 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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theseus says "who taughtyou suck sloppy technique?" wasn't that achilles?

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such*

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 9:51 AM

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yeah, that's Theseus' stab at Achilles who, as you may remember, uses a spear, same as Theseus in the fight

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which is kinda weird, I don't remember Theseus going into the labyrinth with a spear

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I think he had a short sword in the depictions I saw

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Theseus has no rights to insult Achilles but this is funny because I think our beloved king doesn't know who is Zagreus' theacher shadesmile

tiny sequoia Jan 18, 2020, 10:27 AM

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There's a special conversation if you go into the theseus fight with the achilles aspect spear

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 10:27 AM

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Yep. Theseus actually seems to respect Achilles

pearl plank Jan 18, 2020, 10:47 AM

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it'd be cool if zag had a line to call theseus out on that then and make him fumble and half-way take back the insult lol

fast idol Jan 18, 2020, 11:07 AM

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I lowkey highkey want a companion item that summons Achilles and Patroculus

pearl plank Jan 18, 2020, 11:10 AM

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summoning some buddies that actually fight for a minute does sound potentially cool

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 11:18 AM

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i want to date theseus

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 11:24 AM

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sorry, his heart belongs to the bull

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 11:24 AM

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i also want to date the bull

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at least give them nectar

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 11:27 AM

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I'd definitely ambrosia Asterius, he seems to have gotten better after dying

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unlike his buddy, who's gotten worse

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 11:29 AM

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Yes give Aserius nectar becsuse he deserves some love

raven gale Jan 18, 2020, 11:38 AM

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My friend. I am not even joking. Wants to make love to Dusa.

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

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naturally dusa

bleak osprey Jan 18, 2020, 11:48 AM

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god i wish we could summon achilles. make his plushie a little exalted shade core and give him the fighting style of the longspears, it’d be perfect

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bonus dialogue if you summon him in pat’s room

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 11:52 AM

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can't use summons outside of encounters, sadly

bleak osprey Jan 18, 2020, 12:19 PM

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but if you could

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 12:21 PM

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just to think of all the gold I missed out on because of not being able to use Shady in Styx's Cerberus room...

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 12:34 PM

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even floating snake haired heads deserve love

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 1:04 PM

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EVERYONE IN THIS GAME DESERVES LOVE

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Theseus not but I respect him for his choice to save Asterius from the lowest depths of Hell

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Also Hades should visit psychotherapist

shy socket Jan 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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He's too busy for that, handling ongoing underworld renovations

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Sadly

spring scaffold Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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He'd have time to visit a psychotherapist if his son helped him with the paperwork.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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Maybe so

spring scaffold Jan 18, 2020, 1:52 PM

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ajfingerguns

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 2:00 PM

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just noticed that Than is on the board in the dining hall

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the goodest boy

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:02 PM

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He is a hard worker

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:02 PM

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how Dare You call someone but Cerberus goodest boy)

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 2:02 PM

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cerberus is a good boys

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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Love Than with all of my heart!

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 2:03 PM

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me toooo!

bleak osprey Jan 18, 2020, 2:04 PM

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thanatos bestest boy

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:04 PM

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Want to protect him and Zag gosh their love so pure and gentle

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:04 PM

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what does this sound was?

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also intresting fact

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i just had Ares boon

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when i have unused Aphro trinket

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is it a bug?

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:06 PM

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No

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Sometimes the gods even if you use their keepsake don't want appear for first time

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:08 PM

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but it's a bug

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Maybe yes. Maybe no. Idk I am fine with that

graceful wharf Jan 18, 2020, 2:10 PM

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they're just playing hard to get

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:12 PM

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The next Boon you find will be from Aphrodite.

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and it totally wasnt!

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Patroclus is the wisest man in this blasted place. Love him, he deserves it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOka-Q6X4AA03Uk.jpg

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Pat misses his boyfriend

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Let him see his boyfriend!!! shadegrief

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:34 PM

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he has a deal with Lord

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:34 PM

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I know, right

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:34 PM

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and deal is a deal

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also i do not understand

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Achiles tought him

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Zag i mean

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and now he just chills in House?

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why he even here?

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also why SGG forgot Achiles had a wife?

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i guess i know why

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:38 PM

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Doesn't he guard the Hades room?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:39 PM

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why does Hades even need guardian in his own House???

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in the center of his domain?

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:40 PM

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Maybe there are some secrets behind that door. Secrets that should be kept locked from prying eyes

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 2:41 PM

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failbag but i saw shades freely come in and out

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 2:43 PM

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Not in that room

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 2:46 PM

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the relationship between Achilles and Patroclus was far deeper described in the tales than Achilles relationship with his wife

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pretty sure Achilles mentions he had one though

odd siren Jan 18, 2020, 3:01 PM

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so i just got the uh. whatever you call the little tidbits of hades talking that sometimes show up when you start a run

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and this one said "nobody gets out of here alive or dead, boy. you think i jest? you think i haven't tried?"
and for the first time in the 45 hours i've put into this game i feel a stirring of pity for hades

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Hades is part of the underworld

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he cant leave it

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also looks like Zag too

odd siren Jan 18, 2020, 3:03 PM

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he just sounded so. defeated about it. i dunno

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 3:03 PM

#

)

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i better like "I have only you. And you have only me"

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 3:25 PM

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I remember going to fight Hades

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And he said something in the vein of

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"My brothers reign over the land and sea. I reside here forever, a foreigner to their country."

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Hades isn't a bad person

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He's just, jaded from the realm he resides in

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And thinks that Zagreus has no right to leave him alone with no family

lapis smelt Jan 18, 2020, 3:41 PM

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For all the stuff people give Hades, he’s not a bad person.

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He’s just a horrible father

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 3:41 PM

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or Zag is terrible chikd

slim thorn Jan 18, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Or both. Probably both.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 3:50 PM

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Lets say it's complicated

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 3:58 PM

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It's not that Hades is jaded, he just doesn't get the kind of open worship as Olympians do. Plus, due to the nature of the job, he always has work to do, judging the shades.

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unlike Olympians, who enjoy a much wider variety of activities

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like Zeus, who bones everything that breathes

slim thorn Jan 18, 2020, 4:02 PM

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He isn't too bad in actual mythos. More like a nerdy middle aged dad

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 4:03 PM

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he's definitely the most "balanced" of all the greek gods

umbral grail Jan 18, 2020, 4:23 PM

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I think it’s at least implied that Hades is being severely overworked with the unnamed war happening on the surface, and takes his frustration out on Zag.

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Hades did kidnap Persephone, but at least he respected her and she had plenty of power herself as the Queen of the Underworld. And she had agency, insofar as she didn't have to stay in the Underworld the entire year, an the only reason she had to after being released was that she ate half a pomegranate down there, not because of Hades exerting his authority.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 4:27 PM

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He definitely better than his brothers, if to be exact Zeus

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At least Hades was nice to his wife unlike Zeus to Hera

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Hera was... not a good wife sometimes

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Poseidon is... also not the best

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 4:33 PM

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Yes she isn't saint but mostly becsuse of Zeus anyway this topic is more for #off-topic-discussion so I quit my mumbling about it

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Agree. Especially with Medusa ;)

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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in game, Poseidon can very vaguely mention the messed up stuff he did that ended up with the existence of Asterius, if you defeat Asterius in the previous run

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 4:35 PM

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Oh yeah

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I forgot about that

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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Yep!

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 4:37 PM

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no no, this isn't off topic at all

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Greek mythology pertains to Hades stuff

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 4:38 PM

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not all

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:39 PM

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i think the mods have come down that Greek myths unrelated to what's in the game in particular are off-topic

bleak osprey Jan 18, 2020, 4:41 PM

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off-topic greek mythology discussion tends to be anything that isn't related to the game or speculation concerning plot

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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So, like, all the crazy stuff Artemis has done and what that says about her character is off topic. But talking about how Poseidon was spurned by the queen of Athens, so he gave her a bull she was cursed to be attracted to, and that lead to the existence of Asterius the Minotaur, that's not off topic

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 4:43 PM

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that's not how the myth went tho

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:44 PM

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as it relates directly to two in game characters and is directly referenced in game

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i don't remember the exact deets

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or even most of it probably

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Minos was a Cretan king, he was supposed to sacrifice a special bull to Poseidon but instead kept that bull and sacrificed a regular one

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Poseidon got angry, so he used his god powers and made Minos' wife, the queen, fall in love with the bull

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:46 PM

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ah, gotcha. Messed up the first part

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 4:46 PM

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she had Daedalus make wooden cow so that she could climb into it and the bull would mount it and her

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fast forward, she gave birth to the minotaur, so Minos had Daedalus build the labyrinth to contain the beast

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Still, get what I mean by off topic and not off topic? If there's a vague reference to it or proof of it in game, it's not off topic

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 4:47 PM

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yeah, yeah, gotcha

steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Thus why Hera is mostly off topic, unless we're talking about her bow and how she relates to it probably

vivid knoll Jan 18, 2020, 6:22 PM

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how do you get Legandery keepsakes?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:23 PM

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there are 4 characters

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Tomatos Meg Skelly and Sisiphus

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u gift them max nectar

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and make some quest or conditions

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and in some moment u will be able to gift them ambrosia

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and have Comanion for that

vivid knoll Jan 18, 2020, 6:24 PM

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And what are summons?

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:24 PM

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a long way, does it deserve it ?

vivid knoll Jan 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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Cpmpanions = Legandery keepsakes ?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:25 PM

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yes

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Companions summons and leg keepsakes are the same

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@sinful cedar i like sisphus most

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it can be used in any battle

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and it grants u damg and healing

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lots of healing

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Companions definitely worth their price

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Sisphus, Ok i'll focus on him

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Meg's and Than's companions deal a lot of damage

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@sinful cedar he requires 10 diamonds for ending quest

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@lament flame but they cannot be used in some boss battles

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or even all bosses

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idk

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:28 PM

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In Hades boss battle

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:29 PM

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holy moly, how can i get it ? @fickle yoke

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:29 PM

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@sinful cedar what exactly?

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:29 PM

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10 diamonds?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:29 PM

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there are 4 ways to get more blood/diamonds/a,mbrosia

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:30 PM

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i only have 2 cuz i killed the boss with two different weapons

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:30 PM

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1st - when you beat the game u can lvlup difficulty and have same reward for bosses

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2nd - Broker

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3 - Fated list

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and 4 - last Charon shop(Only blood for 1500 and dia for 100 can be there)

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:31 PM

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*1000

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:31 PM

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oh ok, sounds easy

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||i hope so..||

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:32 PM

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@sinful cedar gl with that pal

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:32 PM

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thanks boyo.

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:32 PM

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Also you may get Than's companion. He deal 3000 damage

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Also useful

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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3k dmg

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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and also cant be used in Bosses batles

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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sounds useful, but i think i'll need the health and coins more

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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and hard to aim

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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and the darkness

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:33 PM

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and long animation

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@sinful cedar i would say u better enjoy story and playing

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dont force urself something

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:34 PM

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well, i get bored so fast, so i need to put a goal to continue playing

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:35 PM

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shadeohboy how about.... beat the Hades at least once?)

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:35 PM

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keast ince?

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what does that mean

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oh, you mean at least once ._.

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well, sounds like a good goal, shadesmile

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:36 PM

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You can get used to it. I switched to Mort and didn't lost my winstreak even if I can't use him in final boss battle. For me it is second useful summon in game

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:36 PM

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failbag my bad

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@lament flame i forget to use my comps anyway shadesmile

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:38 PM

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Thanks to Shady now I always remember about them

shy socket Jan 18, 2020, 6:40 PM

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Companions make stacking plume in elysium possible

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Some rooms you just cant clear fast enough without help

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@sinful cedar what weapon do u prefer

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:50 PM

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the shield

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:50 PM

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aspect?

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:50 PM

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i didn't open any

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i dunno how to open it, lol

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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With titan blood?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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@sinful cedar unlock all weapon

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and make 1 run

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and u will be able to see it

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and unlock with blood

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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do i need to open the gun too ?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:51 PM

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yes

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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ok, i need to do some research about how to unlock it

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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keys?

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:52 PM

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it's not shown

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oh, i need to unlock the other weapons

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:53 PM

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did u unlock all weapon before rail?

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:53 PM

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nope,

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i didn't like the spear, so i didn't waste keys on it

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but i must but it now, to unlock the aspects

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:54 PM

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if u buy fated list

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and gift to Chaos 2nd and 3rd Nectar

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he will give you 2 prophecies

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to your list

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for ending this u can have 20 keys

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for each

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use all Chaos curses and use all Chaos boons

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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the fated list is a must now, i'll get it as soon as i can

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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at least once

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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how much does it cost?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:55 PM

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list?

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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yes

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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https://hades.gamepedia.com/Fated_List_of_Minor_Prophecies

Hades Wiki

Fated List of Minor Prophecies

"The minor prophecies of the Three Fates shall come to pass, sooner or later, probably."
The Fated List of Minor Prophecies, located in Zagreus's room, can be commissioned at the House Contractor for 20 .

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20 gems wiki says

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:56 PM

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Nice,

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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u can see list of reward

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on the link

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:57 PM

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this game is deeper than i thought

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yeah i see

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 6:58 PM

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SGG is all about good stories and good music

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and songs.

sinful cedar Jan 18, 2020, 6:59 PM

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and graphic

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the art in this game is so good

spring radish Jan 18, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Eh okay I beat hades but I still can't use those blood titan things?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 7:07 PM

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@spring radish u need to unlock all weapon 1st

spring radish Jan 18, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I have

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 7:07 PM

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and make 1 run

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 7:34 PM

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@safe dirge did u max Sisi nectar?

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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i relate, hades
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/346134447785246732/668176356982521889/unknown.png

safe dirge Jan 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@fickle yoke yah

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@safe dirge and did u speak...bouldy?

safe dirge Jan 18, 2020, 7:35 PM

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the rock?

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yah

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he says nothing though

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 7:36 PM

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so u just focus meet him

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speak them

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untill u will have scene with Meg in Sisi room

safe dirge Jan 18, 2020, 7:36 PM

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how many times xD

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i finished the game over 50-60 times now xd

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every time i get the Sisiphus room i go to him and talk to both the rock and him

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i guess i am just unlucky? xd

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i ll keep trying

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thx though 🙂

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 7:39 PM

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what do u have in codex with him?

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also dont forget to have 10 diamonds for him@safe dirge

worn mountain Jan 18, 2020, 7:48 PM

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Than refers to the sun as Helios' chariot. Not sure if we'll see environments past River Stix but would be fun to see how the that would be handled.

midnight sinew Jan 18, 2020, 8:07 PM

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whenever thanatos leaves before you can give him nectar

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handR

haughty carbon Jan 18, 2020, 8:27 PM

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how much left before the update? kind of lazy to open the game to see the date

safe dirge Jan 18, 2020, 8:28 PM

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@fickle yoke i have 27 diamonds xDDD

junior field Jan 18, 2020, 8:28 PM

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3

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 8:28 PM

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@safe dirge good

harsh sleet Jan 18, 2020, 8:46 PM

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hold up can i kiss thanatos yet

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:46 PM

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You can bone him

harsh sleet Jan 18, 2020, 8:46 PM

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MONKAs

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brb downloading hades again

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 8:49 PM

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shadesmile

lament flame Jan 18, 2020, 8:49 PM

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You need to maxed out him with nectar, than beat him in contest several times and after that you get the option to romance him. After you maxed out him with ambrosia (forge the bond with him) you just wait for him...appear in Zagreus room...

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But still I WANT KISS THIS IS MORE INTIMATE THAN BANGING

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Well guess I'll draw it myself then

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 9:26 PM

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how does Hades take off his cape through his pauldron?

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If someone forgot - shield is op http://prntscr.com/qpm263

Lightshot

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steady beacon Jan 18, 2020, 9:28 PM

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fire. he just burns off the part under the pauldron and he's able to drop and burn the rest easily enough

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also, wanted to check. What exactly causes the 'no dio dialogue that eventually leads to Hymn of Zagreus' glitch? Was it just talking to Eurydice before you talk to Orpheus at all, or is there more to it?

hard osprey Jan 18, 2020, 9:44 PM

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finally finished a run after ~30 tries
https://i.imgur.com/LlzJjzI.jpg

Imgur

shy socket Jan 18, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Uh... just gotta say kissing is categorically not more intimate, despite popular sentiment 😅

If Than trusts you that much, don't devalue it!

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 9:51 PM

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@hard osprey 1st win?

hard osprey Jan 18, 2020, 9:51 PM

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yeah

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kinda cheese with ares cast

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 9:51 PM

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HB is best thing in game

hard osprey Jan 18, 2020, 9:52 PM

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yeah, I got HB and then managed to snag vicious cycle just before hades

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so it pretty much deleted his hp

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 9:53 PM

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i just had run with HB and ares leg

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uhhh i never saw hades died so fast

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in my runs

woeful quartz Jan 18, 2020, 10:01 PM

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What's HB?

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 10:02 PM

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Hunting Blades

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ares/artemida duo

woeful quartz Jan 18, 2020, 10:03 PM

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Oh

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 10:05 PM

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how can i get Zagreus Hymn?

fast idol Jan 18, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Its and event that triggers with Dionysus

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 10:13 PM

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@fast idol ?

fast idol Jan 18, 2020, 10:14 PM

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Uh

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Well you give Dio some Nectar

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and you give Orpheus some

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You won't get it though as long as you have the Orpheus/Eurydice event running in the back

fickle yoke Jan 18, 2020, 10:15 PM

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shadefear running in the back????

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ok nvm i think i found one more intresting thing to discober

uneven loom Jan 18, 2020, 10:26 PM

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Kissing is less intimate than sex in romantic relationships. However, at least where I live, sex is something people do for non romantic reasons but kissing isn’t. I’ve never heard of fwb that make out

minor oyster Jan 18, 2020, 10:48 PM

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Yeah same

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Kissing is definitely an intimate only action. Or rather, making out is. I've heard of cultures that just kiss as a greeting.

uneven loom Jan 18, 2020, 10:56 PM

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Some do. It’s usually on the cheek I think

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Also who is your pfp

tame bronze Jan 18, 2020, 11:34 PM

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I swear everytime I get an Ares boon, Dionysus is right up next as if saying "Hey do you need wine to go with all that blood?"

karmic vine Jan 18, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Vampire Jesus definitely needs both

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:12 AM

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How can you turn blood into wine if wine is blood and blood is wine? Would turning your own blood into wine really make it wine because VampireJesus could turn them all into vampires to make blood into wine?

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This I do not know, Alucard sides again with humanity.

fickle yoke Jan 19, 2020, 12:14 AM

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shadeeyeroll wtf is that

tame bronze Jan 19, 2020, 12:14 AM

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And this entire conversation just made my day.

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:19 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651489881104711720/668247565740802058/478.gif

fickle yoke Jan 19, 2020, 12:19 AM

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some anime stuff meh

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:20 AM

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Hmmm.

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Is Zelda an anime?

obtuse parrot Jan 19, 2020, 12:21 AM

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Is anime Zelda?

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:22 AM

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Absolutely!

obtuse parrot Jan 19, 2020, 12:23 AM

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Beautiful!

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

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Wait I'm still in Hades Spoilers.

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Uuuh.

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Guys, Zagreus dies.

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But then, he like, comes back!

tame bronze Jan 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Never saw that coming

junior shard Jan 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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ugh spoilers

obtuse parrot Jan 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Spoiler alert man

fickle yoke Jan 19, 2020, 12:25 AM

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failbag i feel too old for such jokes

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in my times joke supposed to be

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you know

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there should be some humor

obtuse parrot Jan 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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That sounds like Boomer Speech mate

fickle yoke Jan 19, 2020, 12:26 AM

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they was funny

tame bronze Jan 19, 2020, 12:27 AM

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It does sound like a Boomer speech XD

fickle yoke Jan 19, 2020, 12:27 AM

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who is boomer

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 AM

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Humor in 2020 is basically created by an algorithm machine and at any day the internet decides whether or not the media we consume is entertaining or not regardless of the context.

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Wait sorry I meant: "uh oh stinky!"

obtuse parrot Jan 19, 2020, 12:31 AM

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Wow a new phrase already

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I'm so behind

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Trust in what I say I've been running Athena boons.

tiny sequoia Jan 19, 2020, 12:32 AM

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theseus: "uh oh stinky"

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

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residentzag

obtuse parrot Jan 19, 2020, 12:33 AM

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dusa

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 12:35 AM

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I love Dusa.

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bouldy

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Bouldy too.

stiff lark Jan 19, 2020, 1:05 AM

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residentzag

prime holly Jan 19, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Artemis best girl

dry briar Jan 19, 2020, 1:24 AM

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How can you say Artemis is best girl when Dusa exists

solar depot Jan 19, 2020, 1:31 AM

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also you guys omg i FINALLY got the than scene shadehearts

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wait

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lol mad i saw you typing.......

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honestly same

uneven loom Jan 19, 2020, 1:50 AM

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opinions: with than and zag, who's where?

solar depot Jan 19, 2020, 2:09 AM

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zag, in the parlor, with the gun

tame bronze Jan 19, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Who's where?

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recalculating

twilit swan Jan 19, 2020, 3:59 AM

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how much nectar do i have to give before i can give ambrosia?

fallow bronze Jan 19, 2020, 3:59 AM

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6 I believe?

twilit swan Jan 19, 2020, 3:59 AM

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oh ok

eternal river Jan 19, 2020, 4:04 AM

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@solar depot than, in the bedroom with my heart

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sorry wait that's not in clue

marble vine Jan 19, 2020, 4:34 AM

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"Ah, hahaha, very clever, fiend. Invoking Heracles' name, in an attempt to drive me to a jealous rage. It shall not work! But you shall dearly pay nevertheless!"

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theseus i didnt say that bro tmi

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im about to check this mans ego but i thought him oversharing like that was funny

sullen imp Jan 19, 2020, 4:37 AM

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Theseus is my favourite himbo

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 6:25 AM

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frenetic laugh Theseus

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:26 AM

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Yikes

uneven loom Jan 19, 2020, 6:37 AM

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what i was trying to say: between than and zag, who tops?

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Than tops...~~don't judge me~~

uneven loom Jan 19, 2020, 6:37 AM

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we need a specific channel for sophomoric talk about hades

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Hjhjhj yes

uneven loom Jan 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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why would i judge you?

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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Dunno

uneven loom Jan 19, 2020, 6:38 AM

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than kind of gives me power bottom vibes tho, although zag is a total bottom

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:39 AM

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And so they both were bottoms

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 6:43 AM

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cpthink why not take turns

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:44 AM

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Absolutely agree with you

shy anvil Jan 19, 2020, 6:55 AM

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just got into a meeting with meg

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there was a freaking whip sound

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:55 AM

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Yep!

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Zagreus loves Meg's whip residentzag

shy anvil Jan 19, 2020, 6:57 AM

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i hope alecto joins at some point

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 6:58 AM

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If she isn't she always can join to me...Gosh Alecto is something

shy anvil Jan 19, 2020, 7:01 AM

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she is

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Those muscules

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:02 AM

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more importantly, there's some ‘Zag sounds’ after the yeehaa

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:02 AM

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AHAHAHA

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:02 AM

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questionable

cold canopy Jan 19, 2020, 7:02 AM

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Reminder to please keep it safe for work in here folks shadesmile

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Teeheeohno ok will do

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:03 AM

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Alecto is tough I am sick for this type of women

shy anvil Jan 19, 2020, 7:03 AM

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been conditioned, can't even swear properly here

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i found i've been using freaking instead of the other one because of this server

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:04 AM

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rooThink we do kinda need some channel for

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you know what

shy anvil Jan 19, 2020, 7:05 AM

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look, any game with zeus in it

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XD

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my bad, madcar

cold canopy Jan 19, 2020, 7:08 AM

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It's alright, we aren't trying to discourage your enthusiasm but this is a public space for people of all ages.

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:08 AM

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You just don't read this dionysus myth do you... Anyway we can talk about it in #off-topic-discussion

cold canopy Jan 19, 2020, 7:08 AM

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Please take anything else that isn't appropriate into DM's or elsewhere

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Okay as you wish

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I am sorry tho

cold canopy Jan 19, 2020, 7:09 AM

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You are free to discuss other myths in #off-topic-discussion if you'd like! Just please keep the server rules in mind.

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:10 AM

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Okay I understood you this will not happen again

queen torrent Jan 19, 2020, 7:13 AM

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hey can someone help me

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 7:13 AM

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What's the matter?

queen torrent Jan 19, 2020, 7:14 AM

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i dont know what is better

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http://prntscr.com/qpq7bu

Lightshot

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cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:14 AM

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rooThink usability or fated choice.

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oh lol 3 fated choice nvm

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well it depends on what kinda build you are going for tho

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since you haven't tried any of this, just try one

hoary pine Jan 19, 2020, 7:15 AM

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try everything

queen torrent Jan 19, 2020, 7:15 AM

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okayy i will thanx

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:16 AM

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rocket bomb makes your special into a rocket launcher.

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spread fire makes your attack kinda like a short-range shotgun

stoic goblet Jan 19, 2020, 7:16 AM

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Rocket bomb is a significant boost to the special base damage so I like it a lot.

hoary pine Jan 19, 2020, 7:16 AM

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i havent tried rocket bomb

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:16 AM

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yeah, base damage really matter in this game.

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80 is a relatively higher one.

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works with +% damage boons on your special

queen torrent Jan 19, 2020, 7:17 AM

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thank you guys

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i will choose it

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 7:17 AM

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AOE attack works with some boons like Poseidon.

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try around first get a grip about it

queen torrent Jan 19, 2020, 7:18 AM

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Okayyy

austere fox Jan 19, 2020, 11:03 AM

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@terse bronze @pearl plank @last horizon updated endless mode #self-promotion

austere fox Jan 19, 2020, 11:37 AM

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anyone has an idea for a mod?

proven summit Jan 19, 2020, 11:46 AM

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uhh question

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on meg there's a lock on one of her hearts, how do i keep progressing her stuff?

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i'm not sure how to get rid of it

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and i wanna progress her stuff so i can unlock her as helper

pallid crag Jan 19, 2020, 11:52 AM

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you have to beat her a couple times with the Extreme Measures Heat option at 1+

proven summit Jan 19, 2020, 11:54 AM

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yeah i already have but sure i'll do it more time ig

loud tiger Jan 19, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Eventually it triggers a dialogue

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no idea when though

dawn ore Jan 19, 2020, 11:57 AM

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Has anyone of you done 32 heat and gone on the Barge of Death with middle management and NOT lose all your death defiances?

proven summit Jan 19, 2020, 12:00 PM

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barge of death is hell

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:01 PM

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@dawn ore Chaos shield with Aphro attack and Dio special

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no timer 32 heat, that is

dawn ore Jan 19, 2020, 12:02 PM

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Timer on 32 is a death sentence

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:02 PM

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only because of Elysium and bad sack RNG in Styx

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otherwise, timer would've been tolerable

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well, barge is a pain, too

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but if you got your boons by the time you reach it, it's doable

dawn ore Jan 19, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I'm never touching the timer, only did it once for the list and that's all

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:14 PM

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having 32 heats timer flashbacks

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:21 PM

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9 mins ain't bad

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7 mins is where I start sweatin

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not sure why people try and attempt 32 heat with the 7 minute one

loud tiger Jan 19, 2020, 12:26 PM

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cuz it's 3 heat probably

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:27 PM

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they probably breeze through Tartarus and Asphodel and then run out of time during Elysium

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:27 PM

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ye, 3 heat you don't have to put into, say, Hard Labor or Lasting Consequences

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:27 PM

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pump up trap damage and extreme measures

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easiest sources of heat, imho

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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I only got the 9 min timer for my 32 heat run, gives you so much more leeway to play properly

vivid knoll Jan 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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I h8 trap damage in Elysium, the arrow hitbox is stupid....

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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you are much better with traps than yours truly, lol

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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do not look directly at the arrow tip

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:28 PM

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one word: lava

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Pro tip for Elysium: Never walk close to the walls.

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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just dash, loooool

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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i hate hydra lava heads

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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And lava isn't that bad, but Hydra certainly is annoying

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I just cheesed it with Bouldy

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Trapped it in the center

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In a prison of Obals

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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ah, I see you're a man of bouldy as well

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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i'm also love bouldy

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:29 PM

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The health is super important for 32 heat

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He also bugs AI

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:30 PM

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but i'm still terrible with lava due to accidentally putting half a second between dashes to dash attack

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 12:31 PM

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I finally saw that bug

steady beacon Jan 19, 2020, 12:31 PM

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also gorgons and spreaders /cries in Greek

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wrt to lava i mean

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:32 PM

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yeah enemies going to the corner of the lava off the map is complete bull if ima be honest

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and not asterius, he's cool

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the bad kind of bull

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hydra heads especially

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their ai is in a perpetual state of non-functioning

lament flame Jan 19, 2020, 12:34 PM

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Bruh Hydra heads with waves are disgusting

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I hate them so much

cobalt summit Jan 19, 2020, 12:36 PM

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Would someone talk to me a little bit about the Yarn of Ariadne? Does getting increased rarity ever give extra effects or does higher rarity just mean increased numbers?

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Given the choice between a boon and a chance to upgrade my next boon, I should take the boon, right?

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Every (normal) boon has a base rarity of common and rarities that go all the way up to Heroic. All they do is change the base numbers (say attack damage %) on said boon.

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Yarn just makes the next one(s) you see have a full level of rarity higher than they would have been without they Yarn.

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:39 PM

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so for example, if you were to get a god gift with a common, rare, and an epic boons, with the yarn it would've looked like rare, epic, and epic isntead

cobalt summit Jan 19, 2020, 12:40 PM

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cool. do you tend to buy those on sight? my assumption has been that I could save that 70 gold for buying boons in the future

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but better powers are better, too, so idk

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:41 PM

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it depends entirely on your situation

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Yeah highly dependent

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:41 PM

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do you want gold for the shop? do you want gold for Charon's stuff?

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do you want gold to buy diamond/blood in Styx?

minor oyster Jan 19, 2020, 12:41 PM

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I usually only get one when I have an abundance of gold, or I am specifically relying on the next boon I find for DPS

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Like I'm carrying a god relic on Asphodel and I'm hoping to get it on a specific part of my kit

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:42 PM

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also, if you have Poseidon/Dionysus duo boon that sets minimum rarity to epic, do not buy yarns

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they'll do nothing for you

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:42 PM

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usually get the yarn if I have money to spare. Or being really unlucky with boons prior.

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with the mirror upgrade and keepsakes I don't feel it's necessary.

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:44 PM

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yarn is definitely more important on Hell because of the mirror limiter

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you run into common boons regularly

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:44 PM

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^

vivid knoll Jan 19, 2020, 12:51 PM

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Is it possible to get heroic boons on an empty slot or can u only upgraude to heroic by changing one slot?

cobalt summit Jan 19, 2020, 12:51 PM

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(These are good tips, thankyou)

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:53 PM

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you can only upgrade to heroic

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the only exception is Eurydice's upgrade

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it can turn your epics into heroics

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:55 PM

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oh well.. upgrade. more like replace the old boons cause usually you get a heroic boons from a different god for the slot.

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wheeze yeah some really rare heroics from Eurydice if ur real lucky

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:55 PM

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I do wish you could just get heroic randomly, or force it with a yarn

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gonna suggest that

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:56 PM

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yeah... usually mess up with my build so I don't choose them.

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:56 PM

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it's not all that rare to get heroics from Eurydice

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especially with Poseidon sword runs, if you get your Artemis cast

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I mean like Eurydice upgrade some heroic boons that usually you can't pick up.

junior field Jan 19, 2020, 12:57 PM

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I usually have 2 boons by the time I reach Eurydice bouldy

cloud lion Jan 19, 2020, 12:57 PM

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like those passives