h1-builds-and-combat

[worn solar]

then for hammers get triple/twin and pointblank, perfect, or explosive shot

uh and get hunters mark from arty

[deft seal]

any good duo boons i should be aiming with that build?

[flat garden]

heartrend?

[deft seal]

ok im idiot, sorry for that xD, thanks for the info 🙂

[cold coyote]

is dionysus cats good on hera bow

cast

not cats

wish he had cats

[worn solar]

a bit niche compared to aphro cast but has a pretty high damage ceiling partly due to having the same bugged behavior with mirage shot as on beo

[cold coyote]

nice

i'm getting all the bugged boons today lmfao

[short crow]

first time using beowulf, what are some good synergies with it?

[worn solar]

flood flare, deadly strike and mirage shot is the go to speedrun build

[short crow]

neat thanks, I see a speedrunning guide linked as well

[turbid needle]

what is the most damaging dash boon?

i think it would be zeus right?

either him or ares

i dont want to rely on divine dash or hunter dash everytime

[proper furnace]

tidal dash

[turbid needle]

hmm

the knockback can be difficult to work around tho

or is it not that bad

[cold coyote]

it's really not

just like

walk

towards them

[turbid needle]

damn

you're right

whats your favorite dash out of curiosity

[cold coyote]

if you're using sword you can special
shield you can throw shield or charge
spear has enough range
gun you can shoot
fists: cry about it
bow is kinda slow but has range like spear

[cold coyote]

tidal

good damage

[turbid needle]

nice

i like hunter dash

[turbid needle]

i like fist tho...

:(

[pliant dirge]

Fists are nice, but dont work that well with Tidal

[last dirge]

Slam them into walls

Or eachother

Get long knuckle

Breaching cross

[pliant dirge]

Ignoring Gilgadash

"just get good stuff lul"

[last dirge]

Those are options to help you hit stuff before you knockback them

You could do Talos lol

[turbid needle]

i did try it

[last dirge]

That actually seems solid for dash dmg

[turbid needle]

i used the poseidon special lol

pinball

[last dirge]

Get tidal, spam dash uppers to suck enemies into your tidal dash

Yeah

Dash + special

[turbid needle]

what boon does gun work well with besides dionysus and zeus?

i tried athena attack on eris

doesnt feel that satisfying

got it legendary and pom to level 5 as well

[last dirge]

Hmm

You can do Artemis for spreadfire

Zag rail

For the bonus ammo

It works well on Eris too tbh

[turbid needle]

oh yeaaa

[last dirge]

It's just a little harder because you get a small clip

[turbid needle]

i need to max zag gun

[last dirge]

Thats the hammer that makes aphro/artemis attack good

It's cheap at least

[turbid needle]

ill try that tonight

does delta chamber work with lucifer aspect?

[worn solar]

nope

luci has a different set of attack hammers

[turbid needle]

ah okay

does support fire and lucifer work like how i imagine it would?

[worn solar]

yeah

pretty much constant

[turbid needle]

i need to get that build going

[last dirge]

Its good

Support fire is great on rail

Rail has Eternal Chamber

Infinite laser but it doesnt ramp

[worn solar]

tbh thats more of a meme

[turbid needle]

frick i want that

[short crow]

any notable hades YT content creators or speedrunners? or videos that talk over aspects/boons/etc.?

[gusty rapids]

not sure about recently but haelian and duunk0 have made a lot of hades content

i think jawless paul still makes hades content

[viscid snow]

@stray vector to be fair i didn't see any gamechanging daedalus bonuses for the aspect of Arthur

[worn solar]

@stray vector cursed slash falls off at higher heats pretty hard when you add in fo and hl

[stray vector]

yeah i noticed that

at 10 hear i was just dying alot

[viscid snow]

i like to go with 5% money damage and just save up as much as i can

[worn solar]

like its cheesy at lower heats but doesnt add damage or anything thatd make it useful if you dont have trouble with lower heat

[stray vector]

i like the... lemme check...

[worn solar]

arthur has pretty high survivability anyways so you can just stack more damage with stuff like aphro attack and face tank anyways without cursed slash and do it faster

[stray vector]

when i use cursed slash i always hope for an epic boon for hermes

so i can attack faster

and use my special faster

if arthur was faster it would be op

[valid dagger]

High heat exists

Still

[worn solar]

well itd be easier to use but there are plenty of aspects that blow arthur out of the water

[stray vector]

ya
um where do i check all the hammer upgrades again

[worn solar]

actually idk if those are even in the codex

can just check the wiki instead ig

[stray vector]

oh right

[viscid snow]

i have a trauma for sword/fists because of those small exploding chariots in elysium

[stray vector]

idk about you but if you can greater consecration and +30% special speed
its gonna be game changing

[stray vector]

lmao
i can relate

[lucid oar]

https://imgur.com/a/ZibaVPb

Spend half the time stunned and still deleted dad

[fallen spoke]

Jeez

[lucid oar]

Epic RD, hyper sprint, epic greater haste

Also double strike and epic jolted

No concentrated volley

[cinder mist]

Athena's Blinding Flash, does it only activate when you actually deflect a projectile, or whenever the ability that can deflect hits no matter what?

[sterile fiber]

When the ability that can deflect hits the enemy

It doesn't have to actually deflect anything, the same as ME

[cinder mist]

so I can basically use Athena's attack boon to activate Privileged Status?

[sterile fiber]

Yeah

[cinder mist]

Coolio

[wintry plank]

Any build for the rail?

[tight cobalt]

Zeus attack is a good all-rounder imo

[shell sleet]

zeus attack, try to get static discharge, poseidon dash

[cyan saddle]

sea storm, tempest strike, thunder dash, double strike, dashes, static discharge, gilgamesh

[valid dagger]

Swap the attack and the dash and you’re set

[wintry plank]

Is the doom still good?

Doom lucy

[valid dagger]

It was never good to begin with

Always been a meme build

It’s just fun

Somewhat

[wintry plank]

I've been lookin for fun builds as well

Any other fun builds?

[valid dagger]

Supersoaker is fun, it’s basically Lucifer + Poseidon attack and try to get Sea Storm + Zeus T2s

[wintry plank]

Ouuuu

I should definitely try that!

[cyan saddle]

nah, i just want to do the most lightning strikes as possible

[valid dagger]

Usable

[wintry plank]

Welp just started the game and only beated it once

The game really caught my attention

[cyan saddle]

lightning doesnt strike in the same place twice?

nah it strikes 15 times

[wintry plank]

Any fun and menacing weapons?

[cunning urchin]

They're all fun.

[wintry plank]

Hmm i should try all of them!

[cunning urchin]

Yeah!

Some can take a bit to figure out how to use effectively, but don't be discouraged.

[cyan saddle]

absolutely! any weapon is good, it just goes down to personal preference

i just use gilgamesh because autodash

[cunning urchin]

Well, some are clearly better for speed or high heat than others, but they all offer something unique that make them fun.

[last dirge]

Doom is better on Rama special

Better spread of doom

[cunning urchin]

What's that in response to?

[last dirge]

Here

Doom Lucifer can work but its very st without triple

[lucid oar]

Rama special doom beats 60 heat

[lucid oar]

https://imgur.com/a/m1tLThs

Most unnecessary DDs and patty ever

Could have just done 44 heat 😦

[valid dagger]

or 50

[turbid needle]

what does the hangover stack do

[valid dagger]

It deals damage

[lucid oar]

Damage over time, stacks up to 5

[turbid needle]

like 5 times the damage?

[lucid oar]

Yeah

[turbid needle]

so if my hangover have an flat 11 damage

its times that by 5?

[lucid oar]

Yes

[turbid needle]

ah thank you :)

[unreal tree]

Thats kinda gaming

[pale quarry]

Hi all, in your opinion what are the top 3 strongest builds at the moment?

[cunning urchin]

For what purpose?

[pale quarry]

For the firsts heat runs, where there aren't many debuffs

[cunning urchin]

Hmmm. What aspects do you have now?

[pale quarry]

Well, I asked for that since I have some titan bloods to spend and I don't know which are the best aspects to spend those on

[cunning urchin]

Chiron, Chaos, and Hestia require a lot of levels to really be good. So if you want to use those, you should be prepared to spend a lot of Titan Blood. For the others, you can just do whatever you like. The Hidden Spear is pretty difficult to use at lower levels, but its no less powerful at Lv.1 than at Lv.5. You just have less HP at lower levels, so you can't make a lot of mistakes.

Hidden Fists are honestly pretty bad.

Zag Sword is also pretty bad.

Zag Spear is... pretty bad.

Well, it's still good if you can get Flurry Jab, but it's bad without it.

Zag Rail is just worse Eris tbh.

Hidden Rail doesn't beat Eris or Hestia, but it's pretty strong, too.

Chaos is weaker than the other shields tbh, but it's still a shield and you might enjoy its features more than the other shields.

Can't really go wrong with any of the other aspects, anyway.

At a high level of play, Sword, Spear, and Fists are generally considered harder to clear with than the others; but if they click with you better, that doesn't really matter too much.

[pale quarry]

Thank you so much for all those info, i appreciate it. I just wanted to ask you my last question, could you tell me which is the best aspect for each weapon (considering the same parameter as before, so "first heat runs")? This is what i got:
Sword: ?
Spear: ?
Shield: ?
Bow: Chiron
Fists: ?
Rail: Eris or Hestia

[proven osprey]

click

[cunning urchin]

Sword: Hidden (or Poseidon)
Spear: Achilles
Shield: Hidden (or Zeus)
Bow: Hera
Fists: Demeter
Rail: Eris

Probably those.

[pale quarry]

Perfect, thanks for your patience and clarity! That helped me a lot

[cunning urchin]

I hope so!

[short crow]

any tips for using the Achilles spear?

how do I best make use of it's Special dash (Raging Rush)

[cunning urchin]

This one assumes you have Flurry Jab, but it's an excellent build guide for it anyway. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eAOEli9KqJOVyPD7U-6D1o1yZx1tDMQWLDcMJr8G84E/

Here's my own Cast Build Guide for just how to make Cast builds work in general if you want to do those on Achilles, which it's very good at. #h1-builds-and-combat message

[short crow]

is there a reason Achilles spear is better with casts?

[cunning urchin]

The Rush gives you +150% bonus damage to both your Attack and your Cast.

[short crow]

ahhh

[worn solar]

when thats 3x more than poseidon

[short crow]

thank you for the info 👍 ill check out the cast builds

[cunning urchin]

Mainly you just double-tap Special and then either throw Casts or do Dash-Strikes, then do that again when you've used up your Raging Rush bonus.

Pretty much.

I'd suggest just playing it a lot to get a feel for it.

You could watch some Achilles speedruns or high heat runs to see what they do differently.

[short crow]

does special have much synergy with any particular boon? or is it mainly used as a dmg buff

for your next atk/cast

[worn solar]

mainly just the damage buff. you can put whatever boon on it to open up duos

[valid dagger]

Mainly a damage buff, your actual special doesnt do damage for the most part, you usually fill it with a boon to unlock duos etc

[worn solar]

like doom synergizes with its periodic usage but that can open up unwanted duos

[cunning urchin]

I'd avoid Tempest Flourish because it spreads out enemies when you want them bunched up, and I'd avoid anything that opens up Duo Boons you don't want.

Otherwise just take whatever if they're not offering you a boon that's more important.

But it's a low priority to take a Special boon.

[short crow]

gotcha gotcha, thank you 👋

[sterile fiber]

Also you're not doomed without Flurry jab, just Flurry Mash with your finger

[worn solar]

or just get hunting blades

[valid dagger]

or serrated

[cunning urchin]

@alpine warren I'd recommend swapping Olympian Favor to Dark Foresight.

Dark Foresight is kinda busted.

You'll see 40% more gold laurel rewards.

[alpine warren]

I'm really not familiar with names in this game sorry xD what they do?

[valid dagger]

It’s the third from last mirror upgrade

[last dirge]

Achilles special is mostly a duo holder

[alpine warren]

Is it the one with status curse dmg boost?

[valid dagger]

You see more gold laurels if you use it as Nyaanyaa said, gold laurels are Poms Gold Health Boons & hammer

No

The one under that

[last dirge]

I do actually like Vicious Skewer on Achilles if I have Artemis

Just to proc mark

[alpine warren]

What are gold laurels?

[last dirge]

Not that useful though. Special generally is just movement and a boon holder for duos.

[valid dagger]

Those are better than darkness, nectar gemstones etc and will make your build stronger by quite a bit

[cunning urchin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/hades_room_rewards_guide.png?width=832&height=508

It changes the odds from 50/50 to 70/30 in favor of gold laurel rewards.

[alpine warren]

Omgg I never noticed the difference thank you!!

[cunning urchin]

Which means 40% more boons etc. from room rewards.

[alpine warren]

What about skulls with red arrow, does it always mean there's a mini boss

[cunning urchin]

Yeah.

You can also just easily tell right away if it's a boon + skull, it's a miniboss. Minibosses before the Temple of Styx always give boon rewards.

[alpine warren]

Sometimes I don't encounter a mini boss idk, but overall stronger enemies with armor

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, those are just regular elite rooms.

They always have a blue laurel reward.

[verbal fjord]

Need a build for Chiron bow

[cunning urchin]

Heartbreak Strike > Deadly Flourish or Drunken Flourish + their respective Duo Boons.

[errant acorn]

I'm a fan of the Low Tolerance build but your mileage may vary.

[wintry plank]

what boons can i use for lucy

[dusty hazel]

help!!, is there a build with guan yu

because its annoying to get to hades with

[lucid oar]

Lightning strike tidal dash static discharge triple bomb

[lucid oar]

Charged skewer, deadly/heartbreak flourish

[dusty hazel]

hmmm

k

[sterile fiber]

Divine dash, Life affirmation

[cunning urchin]

I wrote a guide for it that might help. #h1-discussion message

[sterile fiber]

• takes enshrouded chaos boon
• enters a room
• why is this empty where is everyone
  Trial of the Gods

[worn solar]

blasphemy

everybody knows that seastorm guan yu best build

[frank jolt]

So I really dislike spear spin, but I -want- to like spear spin. How do I go about it and make a good build for it?

It just feels super dangerous, even with fast spin.

[lucid oar]

Quick spin and massive spin are great for it, also aspect of hades cause the spin is huge

As soon as you do a spin, dash so you cancel the recovery animation

[turbid needle]

why do i hear boss music

[lucid oar]

Limit your spins to in between waves while enemies are still spawning in

[frank jolt]

I found out the dash cancel in Elysium, run changer. But even then it feels... lacking in dps by a lot.

[lucid oar]

What hammers did you have

Also attack boon and aspect

[frank jolt]

Massive spin, quick spin, aprodite attack, second aspect. (dont have 3 and 4 unlocked yet)

[lucid oar]

Well, the third aspect has a huge spin radius, and because massive spin gives a large % attack increase, deadly strike is the best for it

Because crits

[frank jolt]

Not a weird idea.

Well, I suppose the damage per se was just fine, but it was dangerous to use and I got hit all over the place. What additions can I make to make it safer to charge and spin, so I can have more uptime?

I found myself canceling just to get out of the way a lot

[lucid oar]

Could try Demeter attack for chill

Enemies will be much slower

[frank jolt]

Well, worth a shot.

🙇

[worn solar]

guan yu https://imgur.com/a/6ickiUT

[frank jolt]

That looks beautiful.

[worn solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/912425963814531092/Hades_11_22_2021_11_34_36_AM.png massive pain getting the boons tho

[frank jolt]

Thank you regardless 🙂 got my hopes up

[strange lark]

fated authority stonks

[worn solar]

gotta grab every zeus t2 along with the legendary

[wintry plank]

lucy and the wine god combo

is [retty fun

[cunning urchin]

You can just Dash to release the spin.

[errant acorn]

It is very rough to find out that the best way to play Aspect of Demeter is without core boons from Demeter.

[turbid needle]

You can dash with aspect of hades to extend the range even further like the theseus/hades attack

[short crow]

@cunning urchin thanks for all the spear info 👋 what do you choose between stygian and infernal soul for achilles cast builds?

nevermind, scrolled up and saw you answered it there

[wintry plank]

WHAT FIRST TIME I GOT A LEGENDARY BOON

[strange lark]

is it the fishing one

[wintry plank]

the zeus thing

the bolt thingy

[strange lark]

oh nice

[worn solar]

time to sell it for the achievement

[turbid needle]

its one of the best

[wintry plank]

so you can hug hades

when he's doing the laser thing

OUUUUU

thats cool

[turbid needle]

the power of family > infernal laser beams

[wintry plank]

what does the holy ground do?

in the aspect of arthur?

[turbid needle]

damage reduction while u stand in it and projectiles are slowed

upgrading it give more aura dmg reduction

[wintry plank]

ouu thank you@@@

ouu i see

[last dirge]

Enemies are slowed too iirc

[cunning urchin]

It also disables most traps and allows you to walk on magma.

[last dirge]

Yeah

Pretty good

Can be hard to always maintain since Hades is very mobile but if you get a good spot, it really works.

Greater Concentration is a good hammer choice since Arthur isnt so hammer dependent. It increases the size and value of the effect.

[rustic rune]

What are the best mirror upgrades to set to green?

[turbid needle]

ussually its all red, except 3rd from the bottom and the bottom

[rustic rune]

What about stubborn defiance?

[turbid needle]

sd is good in high heat or when you havent won that much

[rustic rune]

Ok, we’ll I’ve won once, so I fall there

[turbid needle]

dark regeneration and golden touch are pretty good while farming, stygian soul is good in cast builds with lingering casts

[rustic rune]

Oh, I like never use my cast anyways, which I know I should, and I try to but I just forget it’s there

[turbid needle]

dark foresight is op because it replaces meta rewards (darkess, gems etc) with temporary rewards like boons and hammers

[rustic rune]

Oh, yea, that is quite good, I have it there

Then why not gods legacy, just too uncommon to proc?

[turbid needle]

bcz u kinda get a decent amount of duo boons anyway and rarity is super important in this game

[rustic rune]

Mm fair

And wait

[turbid needle]

but if ur going for a build that really needs duos then its decent to take

[rustic rune]

Is fated persuasion like a stubborn defiance of fated auth?

But for boons or something?

The wording is a bit weird?

[turbid needle]

fated persuasion lets u reroll in the boon selection screen

its really good

[rustic rune]

How often though

[turbid needle]

at max its 4 + how many keys you get

[rustic rune]

For the whole run?

[turbid needle]

especially helpful in chaos gates

yea

[rustic rune]

Ok

Makes sense

And are you saying greater reflex is better than ruthless reflex?

(Sorry that I’m asking so many questions lol)

[turbid needle]

definitely

[rustic rune]

Ok

[turbid needle]

sheild is the exception cuz it has a block and dash

like if megeara is doing her spin attack, greater reflex can get you out of the circle and ruthless might get you hit

[rustic rune]

Ooh, yea, I get that

[worn solar]

most cases greater reflex still better for shield. fated persuasion is prefered almost always unless doing boonless or stacking a lot of a single god

[rustic rune]

Welp, time to search for a single key to reset my spent darkness!

[wintry plank]

damn the aspect of arthur is a hard hitting one

any dps weapons?

[fallen geode]

Aspect of Eris Rail feels really strong to me

75% extra dmg on everything, even DoTs I think

[cunning urchin]

Nemesis, Poseidon, Achilles, Zeus, Beowulf, Hera, Rama, Demeter, Eris, Hestia.

[cunning urchin]

Any damage that comes from Zagreus, yeah. So not traps or summons.

[torpid bolt]

the last fists aspect is more of an exception because it comes built-in with a couple extra (nerfed, but still) dashes

[last dirge]

Those are more offensive dashes

Know what I mean

For like tidal dash or dash strikes

Dash strike has low base dmg but honestly that is perfect for Breaching

You dash strike to shred armor, then stop for a second to do a 1-2-3 combo

Never do a full combo. It slows you down.

Probably dont dash strike once armor is gone. Empty dashes are safer. Though if you have enough dps it doesnt matter.

That's how I've done well with gilgamesh

Special for memes. Just treat it like a debuff.

[cunning urchin]

Dash-Strikes stun unarmored enemies.

[last dirge]

True. Depends on your attack.

[bright vine]

Hey guys using magnet special fists (forget the name) have an ares boon for special doom epic (100 damage) or blood frenzy which i like taking for the mintotuar and hades fights thoughts????

Not sure how good using the special is on these fists first or second go with them

(3rd is battle rage since i always get asked)

[candid valve]

should i upgrade the chaos aspect for the shield, or i should save for beowolf

[bright vine]

You want zeus over chaos in the meantime but yes beawolf is the best

[cunning urchin]

I'd roll for Attack.

But you only asked the guys anyway and m not a guy.

[unreal tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/875812054227886080.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[turbid needle]

bruh idk how I survived this run, my main boons are only tempest strike, thunder flourish, and aphrodites aid, and the rest well they aren't main boons but just stuff like flurry cast, etc

[last dirge]

You don't need main boons tbh

You can get by with a single core boon on the attack you are using

And then the secondary boons that make that core boon really good

[turbid needle]

yeah your right but i am decent im in the middle of damn i suck and you can't even hit me

[last dirge]

Bonus dashes?

[turbid needle]

bonus dashes?

[last dirge]

From hermes

[turbid needle]

oh that

no

i had none

[last dirge]

How are you not getting hit then? Just got good at timing?

[turbid needle]

all i had was the mirror and the boons

[last dirge]

Boons dont determine how well a run does really to a certain degree

[turbid needle]

i got hit a lot i said im in the middle of damn i suck and y'all can't even hit me

[last dirge]

It's the mirror and the timing you have

Building boon power just makes a run easy

[turbid needle]

You're right but good boons can certainly help

[last dirge]

Like ridiculously easy even

But you can win at 0 heat with any build really

I've tried just about everything

It really depends on your timing and mirror

Mirror adds a lot of essential upgrades

[turbid needle]

oh yeah I forgot to mention I was at 0 heat and I lost all my death defiance's

and i was sooo close to dying it was insane

[last dirge]

You won still?

It's fine then

[turbid needle]

somehow

[last dirge]

I usually lose 1 or 2 vs dad

Sometimes all 3

[turbid needle]

but yeah i nearly nearly died and it didn't go exactly how i would've liked it to go i kept getting aphrodite and i kinda don't do good with her

[last dirge]

As long as you have all 3 dds vs dad he is easy enough.

Aphrodite is good. Honestly this build would have been meta

What weapon?

You could have gotten smouldering air since you have Zeus

[cunning urchin]

So you're saying you got what you deserve.

[turbid needle]

you see the bow its final aspect

[turbid needle]

i did not

[last dirge]

I thought you did. Never mind.

Rama is also that good tbh

[turbid needle]

that would've made it easier

[last dirge]

It's the weapon I'm most comfortable with

[turbid needle]

yeah but i do good with hera's bow

[last dirge]

Hera is good too

Probably 2nd best bow

[turbid needle]

it is

[turbid needle]

personally best

[last dirge]

Cairon is really 3rd. It's good but it's slow.

Hera is usually the aspect I unlock first

I tried to rush the game as fast as I could and yeah got a win after hmm

Maybe 5 runs?

[turbid needle]

the only reason chairon isn't the 2nd imp is because of its special having like 1-4 arrows instead of the usual i think 5-7

[last dirge]

On a fresh save

It gets more with each upgrade

[cunning urchin]

Lv.5 Chiron has 8 arrows.

[last dirge]

That's also why I dont recommend it as a 1st unlock

Hera is just better starting off

[cunning urchin]

Hera is also better when both are at max level.

[turbid needle]

huh nice this was my 1st rouge like and i got it at around 75-80 runs

[last dirge]

Cheaper to max but you dont need to max it

That's fine

[lucid oar]

Hera level 1 > Chiron level 5

[last dirge]

5 runs was from like 500 hours of experience

[turbid needle]

well my hera is at max and chiron isn't

[last dirge]

I think I even died to Meg once lol

But whenever I lost to a boss I beat it next run, until I unlocked Hera and just won

Starting off is tough

[turbid needle]

bruh i died to meg a million times

[cunning urchin]

Indeed.

[turbid needle]

i never had a issue with the hydra

[last dirge]

You have no upgrades and just base sword

Base sword isnt a safe weapon

Same when I started.

[turbid needle]

tho thesus lord i died to him a good amount of times and hell sometimes i couldn't even reach him

[last dirge]

That's normal

[turbid needle]

but you see what's funny? the first time I beat thesus and asterius I went up I got to dad and as much as I was nervous I won first try

[last dirge]

Nice

[turbid needle]

yeah i was quite happy

i also knew he was the final boss and i expected a second phase and i was kinda correct

anyways ima do another run wish me luck

[last dirge]

Gl

Try to avoid poseidons attack too usually. It is probably the weakest attack boon.

[turbid needle]

p attack is pretty good for knocking into walls

my 2 least favorite are ares and athena attack

[uncut shadow]

i combine poseidon with fists

thats pretty well tho

i am playing with this combination rn

[lucid oar]

Poseidons dash can fill the role of slamming enemies into walls

Except tidal dash actually does a lot of damage

[worn solar]

chiron and hera just become bootleg zag bow at high heat. proof that zag bow is the superior bow

[turbid needle]

tbh I don't see why people still use zag's bow I don't think there's a special upgrade that separates it from the rest for example hera can put the cast into a shot but zag's bow correct me if I'm wrong but there's no upgrade that makes it better?

[proven osprey]

Innate crit is just good

Goes well with a couple hammers

[gusty rapids]

yeah innate 15% crit is pretty high

pair it with twin shot / triple shot and it’s v nice

[turbid needle]

oh ok so thats why?

[mild raft]

Crit good

[valid dagger]

Crit good

[tight cobalt]

w/ Hunter Dash on it that mfer can CHUNK

[mild raft]

The great part is you can use Arty Special or Cast to unlock Heart Rend and still use the innate crit to benefit off of it without Mark

[turbid needle]

better to use battie vs redacted p1 or p2?

imo p2 is easier sometimes cuz no summons

[worn solar]

p1 is more beneficial since you can hit both him and adds but riskier since its easier to miss

[sterile fiber]

Speedrun uses battie the instant the battle starts

[mental lake]

if I'm using the chiron bow would I want rare artemis spec attk or epic poseidon spec attk

[turbid needle]

poseidon

[lucid oar]

What hammer do you currently have

[turbid needle]

artemis doesnt do much cuz attacks arent ur dmg

[mental lake]

the +4 volley one

[lucid oar]

Spec attack means special i assume

[turbid needle]

posedien gets some distance and u can spam q from there

[mental lake]

okiedokie

[turbid needle]

oh posedien spec?

[mental lake]

it's my first time using the dang bow and i read that chiron is buisted

[lucid oar]

What other gods do you have in your god pool so far?

[mental lake]

so im trying it

just artemis

[lucid oar]

Oh it’s a replace

Well both are viable tbh, poseidons better with Zeus and sea storm, Artemis is better with aphro and heart rend

[turbid needle]

what are the other options

[lucid oar]

So pick one of those

[mental lake]

sunken treasure and hydraulic might

[lucid oar]

Take hydraulic

[mental lake]

what kinda boons am I looking for with a bow run exactly?

[lucid oar]

Chaos special bonuses, pressure points, hunters mark, heart rend

If you’re going the crit route

Also concentrated volley is the best hammer, and if you have that then epic swift flourish from Hermes is OP

[mental lake]

Meg died so fast. I think I love the bow.

[safe radish]

😨

[proven jackal]

Yo guys, I'm gonna try out the bow with Chiron aspect, any tips for someone that is garbage at it?

[polar python]

Dionysus

On special

Concentrated volley and/or relentless volley for hammers. Aphrodite on attack and Zeus on call to bait out smouldering air

Dash and cast are up to you, but Divine Dash gives you access to death defiance refreshes.

[proven jackal]

Thanks!

[bright vine]

Wdym roll for attack?

I don't really use aphrodite (magnet fists) crush shot, passion dash, life affirmation

[lucid oar]

Do you have fated persuasion unlocked?

[bright vine]

Not this run? Is that a boon

Sounds like a mirror thing

[sterile fiber]

It's a mirror skill, the last one

green side

[bright vine]

Oh no im close to the last set need 10 keys haha

Thats to reroll boons right

[sterile fiber]

Yeah

[bright vine]

Sooooo crush shot, passion dash or life affirmation?

Whata typically good

[valid dagger]

Depends on your weapon and build overall also maybe heat

[turbid needle]

does swift strike make spin charge faster

or just make it so you have to wait less time before using another spin

[worn solar]

nope

[turbid needle]

does nourished soul boost frost fair blade healing

[cunning urchin]

Nope.

[turbid needle]

yea makes sense cuz LC doesnt either

and u were right lol gaun yu cares the least i was gonna wait til mid heat to use LC and SD but im only on heat 11 and LC4 is ez

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, you can pretty easily keep your HP capped still.

[turbid needle]

yea i didnt expect guan yu to still heal its kinda op

[cunning urchin]

At least until you take FO2. Using the spin with FO2 is a whole lot harder.

It's like enemies don't wanna wait for you to charge your spin or something I dunno.

Very rude.

[worn solar]

you mostly use the spin for damage the spin heals kinda slow unless theres a billion enemies

[cunning urchin]

Well, a spin build will pretty naturally have HP capped most of the time.

But FO2 spin builds are like... maybe I should do something else, like not use the spin.

[worn solar]

fo1 fun. fo2 kinda sus

[cunning urchin]

FO2 on its own is still kinda fine.

Add JS1 or something...

[valid dagger]

EM4 maybe

[turbid needle]

battie + winter harvest makes it feel like bosses have no hp

[cunning urchin]

Trying to charge your spin while what feels like 20 Speeder Slugger Longspears take turns dragoon-jumping you.

[worn solar]

aggroing a room of speeder shifter flamewheels then tryna spin bad idea

[cunning urchin]

No that works.

When you try to spin, they all teleport away from you.

When you recognize spinning is a bad idea and dash away or something instead, they all teleport right to where you dashed to.

[turbid needle]

i remeber that gif lol

[worn solar]

https://imgur.com/a/1VmLkf1

this is truth

[cunning urchin]

See?

You didn't get hit during the spins.

You got hit after dashing.

With Flaring Spin, maybe the best idea would have legit been to just stand there spinning and praying lol.

[worn solar]

dc2 plus armour says no

[unreal tree]

Running away from/trying to fight flame wheels

[tight cobalt]

Just blew an Erebus chamber on the last hit with a Hazard Bomb, mad skills

[cunning urchin]

Well played.

[verbal fjord]

I need a build for... I forget which aspect, but it's for the Exagryph that empowers ya when you're in the blast zone

[worn solar]

attack: lightning strike > static discharge > maybe storm lightning > splitting bolt
special: high% boon aphro or artemis prefered
cast: doesnt matter much
dash: tidal prefered. ddash, blade rifts, drunken, or aphro can work too
call: zeus/dio/poseidon/athena/anything that aint ares call is fine

[verbal fjord]

And Daedalus upgrades?

[worn solar]

rocket/cluster bomb are priority especially together, delta comfy, avoid hazard bomb unless you have delta, avoid spread fire

[turbid needle]

imagine if hazard, cluster and triple were compatible

the total chaos

[flat garden]

hazard cluster

yum

[tight cobalt]

I’ve been meaning to try out Demeter’s Legendary at some point—what’s a good build to use it on?

[turbid needle]

have you done a turret build with demeter cast

hades tower defense 6

ice wine with aspect of hera or beowulf is also fun

[cunning urchin]

@verbal fjord Demeter Aspect just does more damage than the others. That Giga-Cutter does a lot of damage especially with good hamers.

[robust cradle]

i just used it because it was recommended for the merciful end build i failed to do lol @verbal fjord

[cunning urchin]

Well, that looks like a pretty good Merciful End build.

[robust cradle]

oops autocorrect

[cunning urchin]

Heroic Lv.6 Curse of Agony is still pretty good.

[robust cradle]

didnt get the actual boon

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, but the build is still decent.

[robust cradle]

yea

got unlucky in styx no ares or athena

[cunning urchin]

That's just something that you gotta expect to happen sometimes when you're going for Merciful End.

What did you use to upgrade your Curse of Agony to Heroic?

[robust cradle]

is there a point where upgrading a boon isnt viable because i think the upgrades diminish each time

[robust cradle]

asphodel lady

it was epic

[cunning urchin]

Ah.

Refreshing Nectar will increase your chances to get a Duo Boon, so next time you're in that situation take that instead.

That should do the trick.

[robust cradle]

whats that

[cunning urchin]

That's her third option.

[robust cradle]

oh

cool ty

[cunning urchin]

Next three boons you see have a greater chance for duo/legendary and for epic, and if those rolls fail, it'll be guaranteed to be at least rare.

It's usually the best option to pick because of that. And definitely if you're looking for a specific Duo Boon like Merciful End.

[turbid needle]

can you get smoldering air without a call, according to the conditions it should be right

[robust cradle]

.

[turbid needle]

yes they diminish really hard after 4, i wouldnt go past 6

unless its hang over cuz that always goes up by at least 1 everytime

[pliant dirge]

I dont think you can

[robust cradle]

cool

[proper furnace]

Nope

[turbid needle]

that sucks

then it should list calls as a condition like vengeful mood does

[cunning urchin]

Yeah, the codex is misleading.

Pretty sure I did a F10 bug report for that before. Maybe it slipped by somehow or just wasn't high priority or something.

[turbid needle]

how does making it more likely to get a rare affect epics/duos/legendaries if at all? like a gods keep sake

[torpid bolt]

If you are wearing a god's keepsake you have a +10/+15/+20% chance for boons from that god to be Rare or better depending on what level it is; in practice what this means is that it gives you a +20% chance to get Rare, and a +10% chance for Epic, and a +10% chance for Duo/Legendary (provided you have the prerequisites). Chaos Favor boon works similarly, increasing the chances of Rare by some amount, and increasing Epic chances and Duo/Legendary by +10%

[polar python]

I think the question is whether it is ever a bad idea to take additional rare probability if it would eat into the probability for getting duos and legendaries

[turbid needle]

no i wasnt worried it would be worse, i thought increasing rare chance would have no affect on the higher rarities cuz thats how i interpreted its wording

[worn solar]

yeah it dont

[errant acorn]

What calls do y'all use most with Smoldering Air?

Besides Zeus, I mean.

I've thought about trying it with Demeter.

[valid dagger]

Dionysus

Athena and Poseidon are also fine ones

Demeter is underwhelming in terms of damage compared to others

You’d need like Killing Freeze with it

[errant acorn]

That was my idea, but that's a real roundabout way to get Killing Freeze going...

[valid dagger]

Yup

Demeter call tough to make work

When you can grab a lv1 Dio call and do the same amount if not more

Kinda sad

[errant acorn]

I feel like Demeter has some of the best and worst boons honestly

Like Frost Strike on certain aspects is really good, and she has Ravenous Will, Rare Crop, and Nourished Soul, all of which are just universally good.

[valid dagger]

She has decent stuff yea

[errant acorn]

I'm not saying she has anywhere near the best set of boons

She actually has what I view as the worst boon in the game with Mistral Dash.

[unreal tree]

Hunter's instinct is a boon

[valid dagger]

Yea The dash and cast and call can be iffy, the Special is situationally good, same for the attack, some of her side boons are very nice like Snow burst Ravenous will for cast builds and Killing Freeze is very strong

Hunter’s instinct

[unreal tree]

Hide breaker

[errant acorn]

Aphrodite's Aid is a boon.

[valid dagger]

I don’t think Aphro’s Aid is anywhere near worst boon lol

[errant acorn]

I guess the reason I say it's Mistral Dash is because of what all you can't get when you have this dash that does almost nothing.

If the hitbox were larger, maybe there would be something to it, but it's so small and does so little damage.

[lucid oar]

I had a decent amount of success starting with mistral dash in my hestia high heat runs

Wasn’t as good as when I got rare+ attack, but it was still decent

[unreal tree]

Frost strike is a lot less damage compared to heartbreak

Its probably why you timed out tbh

[lucid oar]

I had 2:30 left

[unreal tree]

Oo

[lucid oar]

Free rooms were pretty cracked tho

Something like a 3:02 tart

Sub 6 aspho

11:xx ely

[unreal tree]

Damm

2 sack?

[lucid oar]

Yes

[lucid oar]

Yeah I had like 80% from chaos

[valid dagger]

I was gonna do Hitless runs

[unreal tree]

Based

[valid dagger]

I kinda wanna do something other than Hestia

Zeus Shield

[unreal tree]

There is actually a gilga no hit

They just spam special and flood shot

And a talos and dem one

[valid dagger]

So basically:
No deflects
No invincibility calls
No dodge

That’s it?

[unreal tree]

No taking damage from chaos/midas's touch

And no acorn/sure footing

[valid dagger]

Sure footing because it rounds early lava damage to 0?

[unreal tree]

Yep

[valid dagger]

This should be okay ish aside from styx lol

[unreal tree]

Styx

[lucid oar]

I’m tempted to try beowulf

[unreal tree]

Styx and heroes fight are the hardest parts basically

[lucid oar]

And just get an OP build

[unreal tree]

Cant bullrush

[valid dagger]

Oh no

Same for Zeus?

[lucid oar]

Is a block considered a hit

[unreal tree]

It would block

Yes

[lucid oar]

Cshot then

Don’t block anything

[valid dagger]

Cshot start resets

Suddenly shields feel like garbage for this

[valid dagger]

Charged flight

[torpid bolt]

If it just says rare chance (e.g. olympian favor says "chance to be Rare") it only affects the chance to be Rare; if it says "Rare or better" (e.g. a god keepsake, chaos Favor) it affects the rolls for Epic and Duo/Legendary as well as the roll for Rare

[turbid needle]

hey guys, I keep trying to get defiance from chaos I got the boons that require it over and over in many runs then I enter chaos again and reroll over and over again but I can never get it I know it's a legendary boon which is why I have gods legacy in the mirror of night but I can never get it is there something I'm doing wrong?

[valid dagger]

Nah, it's just rng, pick Favor from Chaos himself to higher the odds

Aswell as Yarns/Eury nectar

You dont see that boon often so yea

[turbid needle]

favor?

[valid dagger]

It's a Chaos boon that increases rarity

[turbid needle]

i'll check it out soon

i assume eury nectar is from eurydice?

[valid dagger]

Yes

Chance is normally 1% I think

[valid dagger]

Legacy is 10% and each of these also adds 10%

So it should become more reasonable to get the DD

[turbid needle]

bloody hell

so if i do get everything i get 31%?

well that;ll be nice i guess

[valid dagger]

Picking up a boon will only consume 1 Yarn / Nectar

Not both

So you only get 10%

[turbid needle]

ok then well atleast its better then 1%

[valid dagger]

Yea should be 21% with legacy

And Chaos favor is another 10% if you can pick that up

That would make it 31%

[turbid needle]

wish me luck cause this will be hard to do

im mainly doing it for a prophecy i only have 2 left the 25 rare fish one and the chao's boons one

[severe vigil]

guys

what are good rama builds

i just maxed it out

[lucid oar]

Special only is really fun and can be strong

Get Zeus ares or Dionysus on the special and juice it up

For Zeus you want jolted and double strike

For Dionysus you want curse of nausea and low tolerance

Ares wants dire misfortune and impending doom

All of them want poms and relentless volley

[unreal tree]

Based

[severe vigil]

I got aphro attack

zeus special

with heroic hidraulic might

[lucid oar]

Good so far

Aim for triple/twin shot and smoldering air

[severe vigil]

I also have triple shot

and jolted

i got a lucky seed

hammer first pick

i have epic special flourish from hermes

lightning go brr

I'm missing a dash

what should it be

athena?

[valid dagger]

Athena or Artemis

usually

[severe vigil]

i got athena keepsake

wish me luck

[torpid bolt]

Are you sure that's the case for Chaos? I thought only Hermes had the 1% for legendary, 3% epic, etc base chances but I could be wrong

[valid dagger]

I'm not sure no

[severe vigil]

point blank shot or perfect shot for second hammer? @valid dagger

[torpid bolt]

Well either way, legacy, favor, Eury nectar, yarn, chaos egg all the way to go

chaos favor*

[valid dagger]

Yea those are good ones, with Triple first I'd take Point Blank over Perfect

[severe vigil]

ok

thank you

[valid dagger]

With Triple since you wanna try to shotgun whenever you have a good opportunity, a lot of the time you get in a tight spot and you wanna let go of your arrow and readjust to avoid getting hit, so you benefit more from point-blank this way since perfect only applies if you powershot, and if you do happen to powershot you usually are within triple shot shotgun range so point-blank also applies here

[valid dagger]

Looked through some stuff, can't find anything about Chaos Legendary chance but considering how rare it is and how many people struggle with it it's probably less than 10% but yea no idea

[quartz fractal]

is flurry shot incompatible with rama

[valid dagger]

Yes, you can't get it on Rama

[torpid bolt]

Makes sense, though I think part of it might be the needing to take two chaoses in a run, and seeing and taking 3 or more isn't the most common thing. Compare it to trying to get ME, where sometimes you have like five or six chances plus rolls and don't get it, or only get it at Ely midboss, vs maybe one chance plus whatever rolls you've got for getting b Chaos's

[valid dagger]

yea that's true

[proven osprey]

Legendaries are obviously rare and Chaos is showing up when they please

[shell sleet]

and poseidon too right?

(not with triple but with twin)

[pliant dirge]

Good speed for a spear, but uh. I may or may not have forgotten to change my keepsake into Elysium

[cunning urchin]

Just make the best of it.

[pliant dirge]

Well, 7:01 heroes so not terrible :D

[cunning urchin]

What's the goal?

[valid dagger]

Its fine but I wouldnt call it good

[quartz fractal]

anotha quick question how does hyper sprint affect rush delivery

[valid dagger]

Hyper sprint gives you a mvt speed bonus of 100% for a small duration after you dash

And RD gives you damage based on mvt speed bonus

[cunning urchin]

@turbid needle @valid dagger @torpid bolt

12% legendary, 5% epic, 10% rare for Master Chaos boons. Same as any normal boon.

[valid dagger]

Legacy?

[cunning urchin]

That's base chance.

[valid dagger]

That’s a lot more than I thought

[cunning urchin]

Just seems less than others because others have multiple Duo and Legendary boons, you can get Duo boons from two different gods, you don't really reroll for Defiance specifically, etc.

[turbid needle]

does it help if i reroll?

[cunning urchin]

Sure, gives you another chance.

[uncut shadow]

time to face with hades

wish me luck

[fallen geode]

[torpid bolt]

@cunning urchin thanks for the confirmation

[spiral thistle]

Aspect of Zeus + Ares cast rift boon + Dionysus drunken flourish boon was the most fun run I have ever had, personal best of 6 heat run. But I think I could have managed an 8 or more.

[turbid needle]

thanks

[pliant dirge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/921956761949327380/930889846942232616/unknown.png?width=1191&height=670 New into-furies PB

[gusty rapids]

v nice, congrats

[pliant dirge]

sloooowly making progress

[lucid oar]

Shame it’s tis

[pliant dirge]

hey uh, how is 6:27 out of Elysium?

with no 2nd hammer for.. no reason

[cunning urchin]

Should still have sub 8 potential.

[pliant dirge]

yea I just named it for sarcasm, but it works! Pretty decent run

best ever but yea

8:19 end time, not terrible but could've been better. Sloppy Styx

[turbid needle]

why EM2 does it make it faster?

[proven osprey]

Boss room is not the same, heads are closer to each other

So you basically navigate faster

[sterile fiber]

you might also die faster

[proven osprey]

Yeah it's definitely harder

[gusty rapids]

just don’t die :)

[fallen spoke]

heart rend us best for chiron right?

[turbid needle]

yea that and low tolerance are the best

[valid dagger]

Sea Storm is very good aswell

[short crow]

what do you all find fun to run with Achilles spear in cast builds?

[valid dagger]

Hunting Blades / Ice Wine / Crystal Clarity

[polar python]

Cold Embrace

[last dirge]

Curse of Drowning

Special becomes offensive

[fading nymph]

cod Achilles kinda bad because of splash dash

[last dirge]

Cod is super splash dash that is boosted by raging rush

[fading nymph]

splash dash pushes them out of cod range

[last dirge]

Get flurry cast. You dont need more dmg anyway

Ah. Dont dash then?

[turbid needle]

call of duty?

[last dirge]

Dont get splash dash.

Curse of Drowning

[turbid needle]

ohhh

[fading nymph]

Achilles really likes splash dash

[last dirge]

Fair. You dont always need it though.

[fading nymph]

you dont always need cod

[last dirge]

True but they asked for fun

I'd get blade dash tbh. fastest route to cod

And cod does enough damage

Flurry too. Usually you wont need hyper+sprint for damage. Flurry however makes cod much faster and more survivable.

Stopping to load casts and the cast delay ends up getting me damaged a lot

Flurry makes it easy. Rush hold cast rush into enemies.

[proper furnace]

Hyper + sprint is one boon

[last dirge]

It's one boon that is delayed

It's like a gacha 2 part character

Ying and yang

[fading nymph]

?

[proper furnace]

Wad a joke cause hyper and sprint are the same boon lol

Is normally hyper + rush delivery

Or hyper delivery

[fading nymph]

rush sprint

[proper furnace]

Zoom

[turbid needle]

how are replacements affected by yarn/nectar

does it get consumed for no effect

or does the replace be +2 rarity from the current

or not get consumed

[proper furnace]

Doesnt affect replaces afaik

Just gonna boost the rarity of the non exchsnges

[turbid needle]

does it get wasted if u take it tho

[proper furnace]

Yes, it still boosting the rarity of the others and thats its job

[cold coyote]

is flurry slash any good

for sword

[strange lark]

Nah

[lucid oar]

It’s fun but it’s not as good as dash striking

And it ends up making the optimal DPS combo worse

[cold coyote]

ok

[last dirge]

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I'm playing sloppy and it's still just an instant win

[proper furnace]

Clockets moment

[last dirge]

Got Second Wave again + smair in Styx shop lmao

After just purging sw

At the very end I swapped aphro special for heroic artemis

I got like +53% boon rarity from Chaos

[bright vine]

If i only want to get 2 companions could i just trade the other ambrosia i collect for titan blood? Seems more efficient i want sysyphis and the demon chicks companions but i want to level my aspcts quickly too

[cunning urchin]

You'll need Ambrosia to upgrade Chthonic Companions, too.

[bleak pivot]

you can bump your ambrosia/titan blood count by doing heat levels on weapons you dont like using cast/dash builds

[hexed pendant]

idk how to screenshot on the switch but today's run was Aspect of Chiron (homing special on the bow) + Caustic Flourish (bonus damage on special from Chaos) + Relentless Volley (extra shots for special) + Frost Flourish (bonus special damage inflicting Chill) + Killing Freeze (Chill applies damage over time)

pew pew

everybody gets froze

plus also extra damage from passion dash + sweet surrender + privileged status

[cunning urchin]

Caustic Flourish
First name is the curse, last name is the boon btw.

[mental lake]

For aspect of chiron do I take relentless volley over piercing?

[valid dagger]

Yes

Piercing also reduces the range of your volley by a bit

[mental lake]

Oooh gotcha

[valid dagger]

Concentrated Volley + Relentless Volley is your ideal combo

[bright vine]

Is flurry slash or shadow slash better?

[cunning urchin]

Shadow Slash just for the fact it's not Flurry Slash. But Shadow Slash does nothing for Dash-Strikes.

[bright vine]

So flurry is only good on spear

[pliant dirge]

Wait Boiling Blood stacks right?

[turbid needle]

no

[shell sleet]

flurry is good on spear, bow, rail

though its VERY good on spear and just good on the others

[tight cobalt]

Flurry is good on bow? I had always thought Power shots were the way to go

[gusty rapids]

flurry jab > flurry shot > flurry fire >>>>>>>>>>> flurry slash

[tight cobalt]

There’s only one thing even remotely worthwhile with flurry slash, and that’s using it with cursed slash on zag aspect, and even that’s a meme build

[turbid needle]

pretty sure power shots are still the meta flurry is just also good

[sterile fiber]

I've done Flurry + Doom with dire misfortune and Flurry Frost Strike with Arctic Blast, both are pretty cool

[gusty rapids]

flurry shot's base is like almost as much as a powershot anyways iirc

[valid dagger]

Flurry slash is peak memeing

[turbid needle]

also the fact that only two bows get flurry 😔

[cunning urchin]

Only Rama can't get it.

[turbid needle]

wait chiron can get it

huh idk why I thought it couldn't

[gusty rapids]

its just not great on chiron

p nice on zag and hera tho

[cunning urchin]

Point-Blank Triple Flurry gaming.

[last dirge]

That's definitely a style

Then hand movements Zagreus does is half of why I take flurry

[bronze marten]

Flurry on hera is fun

[gusty rapids]

indeed

[turbid needle]

finally after many attempts i got it in this run

[umbral jolt]

wow cluster bomb + rocket bomb is incredible, you really just dont care about anything and shoot people and clear rooms in seconds lol

[proper furnace]

400 base dmg moment

[turbid needle]

if you have flood shot, passion dash and Dio's aid you can get all 5 curses

become a witch with curse of pain, agony, longing, nausea and drowning

[verbal fjord]

Need a build for aspect of Zeus shield

[last dirge]

Just do zeus special

Jolted, double strike

Get whatever good shows up on attack for duos. Maybe aphrodite.

Then you can get Smouldering air, Zeus call, and lean all into bolts

[lucid oar]

Double strike doesn’t do anything with just the special

If you have the call it’s good

[sterile fiber]

It opens up splitting bolt

if no other better options are offered

[worn solar]

well double strike still increases jolted and explosive return damage

[last dirge]

Ah I forgot double strike is worse on Zeus

[turbid needle]

what does curse of drowning do on flood flare

[worn solar]

instead of immediately activating, you start using the pulses at the end of your bullrush

its not very good

[turbid needle]

alr its going down the drain

im doing my first heat 32

[turbid needle]

curse of agony is getting UC sold i meant, i dont have cod

damn chaos gate or Eurydice?

hard choice chaos shot and nectar are both good

[worn solar]

well eurydice is a guaranteed positive

and youll prolly be taking a curse into lernie with chaos

[turbid needle]

no this is the first aspho chamber

[turbid needle]

true but chaos is a bigger + if it does payoff

and ill reroll once if i have to

ok ill go Eury

[worn solar]

if eurydice's rarity boost gets you epic rush delivery or mirage shot thats about as good or better than any chaos benefits. well though not like i know what prereqs you have rn

[turbid needle]

i got mirage and pom power and rare greater reflex off the nectar so id say u were right

charged shot or sudden rush?

[fading nymph]

cod Beo is so cursed lol

Both are very good

[turbid needle]

i took sudden rush cuz shot is less fun

[fading nymph]

cshot takes away some safety from your bull rush but makes your attack do more and also speeds up the charge, sudden keeps the safety and speeds up charge more

I would take sudden

[worn solar]

cshot fun smh

[turbid needle]

about to do champions

my run is probably over here i have 15 seconds on TD

my only hope is using battie to blow everyone up before i die

nope i ded

i got EM thesius to god phase so i was closeish

[turbid needle]

is eris rail the only weapon that have global dmg boost?

maim maybe increases global

damn

[cunning urchin]

Eris's buff increases all damage from Zagreus. Gilgamesh's Maim increases all damage taken from any source.

That means Maim can increase summon and trap damage as well as damage from charmed enemies.

But Eris can't.

[worn solar]

maim confirmed op

[turbid needle]

Maim stygian shard build vs hades

cuz he needs a 50% dmg boost so bad

[errant acorn]

I don't get why more people don't use Aphrodite's Greater Call. I just made it do 3,500 damage to Hades.

[turbid needle]

because most non-boss encounters are so short they dont reach greater call so people spam lesser call and aphros lesser call is useless

and because lesser calls are used more, the best for damage without upgrades is Dionysus

[lucid oar]

You can make Zeus call do 1000 damage with one stock very easily

[shell sleet]

you get 1/3 rd an eris buff (but a lot worse most of the time) for 2.5 HL, what a good mechanic

[fickle orbit]

What is the best Daedalus hammer for shield

[valid dagger]

Charged shot arguably

But there are many good ones depending on the aspect

Like Explosive Return / Sudden Rush / Breaching Rush / Ferocious Guard

[worn solar]

dread flight my beloved

[valid dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/930778716987068416/849657007131721758.gif

[lucid oar]

Pulverising blow is good too

[valid dagger]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

[unreal tree]

Pulv blow suuuuuuuuuuux

[valid dagger]

Yea I don't like it tbh

[pliant dirge]

2:05 out of Tartarus, pretty sure that's a pb <3

[valid dagger]

poggy

sub6 soon™️

[pliant dirge]

hey uh, is there a vid for how to Meg in the Witches' Circle?

Is the only miniboss I suck at using Meg at

[lucid oar]

https://imgur.com/a/oKKycJu

Ignore boon choice

Basically you want to stand above the bubble, auto aim at top witch and Meg earlier than I did in the video

[pliant dirge]

ty

[valid dagger]

exit wounds op

[worn solar]

pulv blow funni https://imgur.com/a/WgVwvVK

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/912921664231198771/Hades_11_23_2021_8_24_02_PM.png

[cunning urchin]

#h1-victory-boasting is one below.

[unreal tree]

Very based

I approve

[last dirge]

Dread Flight is ok for like Charged Flight Beowulf

[unreal tree]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/927560358355427368.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

but who runs that

[turbid needle]

can phlanx backstab

with parting shot

[cunning urchin]

Yes.

[turbid needle]

how exactly is megs summon line determined

[cunning urchin]

If Zag looks this way ↑ she fires this way →.

[lost charm]

If I'm not completely mistaken, with the exception of Achilles, Dusa and Bouldy, other companions help based on what's in front of Zag

Oh, and skelly. He just lures enemies

[bronze marten]

yeah than is a circle in front of you, meg is a perpendicular line

[lost charm]

Youps

[fading nymph]

https://youtu.be/G-Iovk-sbe8

This vid explains it well

[lost charm]

Hey, what's the best weapon to Ares core builds? I'm trying to get used with his boons for fast cleans

[turbid needle]

Eris or Nemises with doom on special and aphro on attack are pretty decent

with curse of longing

[strange lark]

eris?

[valid dagger]

I disagree with both

[strange lark]

yeah

just do ME on nemesis

[valid dagger]

Eris would do Blade dash as budget tidal dash, besides that there isn’t a whole lot you want from Ares

[lost charm]

I'll try with nemesis. Got this aspect really early and enjoyed more than arthur

[valid dagger]

You could take Cast if you have Artemis on Special to open up hunting blades but it’s not something you actively aim for

[unreal tree]

[valid dagger]

[lost charm]

Oh, ok! I'll remember that

[valid dagger]

Urge to kill / Blood frenzy are fine picks if you have to take Ares

But again, not something you aim for

[lost charm]

Right. I have the small feeling that ares it's not a popular choice for boons :/ but I really like his boons

[valid dagger]

Well Merciful End is very popular

You can run it on almost anything

[lost charm]

Hmmm, true

[valid dagger]

Or Hunting Blades on Achilles

And Battle rage is very strong for room clearing with certain aspects