Double pom, True Shot 1->3, Arty Call 1->3, Billowing 2->4
#h1-builds-and-combat
elder gale
strange lark
do you still have rerolls?
elder gale
Nah, used it on another pom
elder gale
Welp, too late
cunning urchin
Well it doesn't matter too much, both are fine.
elder gale
First time I've fought Dad at full life and DD....nice
cunning urchin
Good luck! 
elder gale
Is there an achievement for perfecting Hades?
cunning urchin
Well, the title is for beating him with full HP.
strange lark
oh true
cunning urchin
Doesn't matter if you got hit or lost a DD or whatever in the fight.
As long as you have full HP when he dies.
strange lark
aspect of demeter, zeus attack, artemis special, aphro dash, zeus call, smoldering air, heart rend
strange lark
what
strange lark
oh
cunning urchin
Best Malphon builds?
elder gale
Cool
Guess Zeus was the choice for first keepsake?
Cause you say Blossom from Elysium onwards
elder gale
Legendary/Duo boost?
strange lark
yes
elder gale
Status or Favorite?
strange lark
probably status if you are going for zeus attack aphro special
elder gale
Shadow or Fiery?
strange lark
shadow
elder gale
Most seems to be preference.
proven osprey
Not really. On most build you'll go FF. PS is really specific
With Demeter you'll mostly use your special when charged up right
elder gale
Dash Upper with Explosive.
proven osprey
And if it's your only way to apply weak well it's not gonna benefit from it
elder gale
Which I got
cunning urchin
With Demeter you'll mostly use your special when charged up right
You use it a lot more than that if you have Heartbreak Flourish.
elder gale
Cast doesn't matter, Nyaanyaa? Cause I got an Epic true shot, Common Hunter dash, and Rare PRessure point
I have 4 reroll tokens
cunning urchin
Hunter Dash.
elder gale
Even common?
elder gale
Post-Tartarus Keepsake?
cunning urchin
For Asphodel? Thunder Signet.
Well, depends on what you picked up in Tartarus, but most likely just go with Thunder Signet.
elder gale
Any Hermes Boons I'm looking for, @cunning urchin ?
cunning urchin
Epic or Rare Greatest Reflex > Hyper Sprint > common Greatest Reflex > Second Wind > Swift Strike would be my priority for the first boon you get from him, pretty much.
uncut lintel
@cunning urchin any tips for keepsake and boons I should search for on a Chiron Aspect run?
cunning urchin
Sure. Start Heartbreak Strike, then pick up whichever you see first out of Deadly Flourish or Drunken Flourish.
Then get their Duo Boon.
Tidal Dash and Divine Dash are both great if you see them.
uncut lintel
awesome, thank you!
elder gale
Second wind rare, common side hustle, common quick reload...I need to reroll on this. >.>
cunning urchin
Second Wind is good.
If you get Smoldering Air, you'll have practically 100% uptime on that after the first 4-5 seconds of any encounter.
uncut lintel
True Shot (Epic), Hide Breaker, Pressure Points?
cunning urchin
Without any context for what else you have, no idea. 
Link a screenshot of what you have now.
uncut lintel
cunning urchin
Oh, you don't have Persuasion. True Shot will fill the last priority slot, so taking that will improve your chances for Heart Rend a lot.
uncut lintel
Sounds good, and no I'm running all the opposite mirror choices to try and complete a prophecy
elder gale
Died. :/
Oh well
Starting a Rama build with Ares Keepsake, but I just got Rama
Curse of Agony and Slicing shot rare, Curse of pain common?
cunning urchin
Curse of Pain.
cunning urchin
You want a high % attack and Doom, Hangover, or Lightning on Special.
uncut lintel
I've got Quick Recovery, Greater Evasion and Hyper Sprint all Rare?
turbid needle
im a big fan of hyper sprint myself
strange lark
Hyper sprint
cunning urchin
Hyper Sprint unlocks Rush Delivery, so that.
Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery is one of the very best combos in the game.
elder gale
Lightning Strike Rare, Thunder Dash and Lighting reflexes common.
cunning urchin
Lightning Reflexes.
Mainly for the fact that it's not his Attack or Dash.
Could also reroll for Call.
cunning urchin
Poseidon's is by far the weakest % Attack. You don't want that, actually.
Heartbreak, Deadly, Divine, Frost, Tempest are % attacks and specials.
elder gale
Okay. I have a poseidon boon or a shop choice
cunning urchin
How many gods are already in your pool?
Is this mid-shop or the shop before the boss?
elder gale
Ares and Zeus. That's it.
Midshop
cunning urchin
I'd check shop.
uncut lintel
Sorry to interrupt 
I'm currently in Elysium, I have a Trial between Artemis and Dionysus or Charon's mid shop with 161 for potential boon?
cunning urchin
Shop.
Trials in Elysium can be pretty brutal. You'd probably not want to risk that yet.
cunning urchin
Sure. Get the boon from Lord Hermes first.
uncut lintel
Wave of Despair (Epic), Sweet Surrender (Epic) or Life Affirmation (Common)?
strange lark
Sweet surrender
uncut lintel
I'm not getting hit too much so i'm thinking sweet
cunning urchin
Easy pick, yeah.
elder gale
Flurry Cast Rare...Hyper Sprint Common, Greater Evasion Rare.
uncut lintel
coolio
cunning urchin
Hyper Sprint.
turbid needle
hyper sprint will always be my answer
cunning urchin
More or less lol.
elder gale
Now for zeus boon....
cunning urchin
I'll take rare or epic Greatest Reflex over Hyper Sprint.
But otherwise, Hyper Sprint every time.
faint snow
why hyper sprint over greater evasion
strange lark
why hyper sprint over greater evasion
It can get rush delivery
elder gale
Lightning Strike...and Thunder Dash common, Static Discharge Rare.
cunning urchin
Static Discharge. Easy pick.
uncut lintel
Gotta put this run on pause, gotta run an errand.
cunning urchin
Curse of Pain.
faint snow
ares or zeus?
elder gale
Zeus, sorry
faint snow
hmm
elder gale
I'm playing Rama
faint snow
Aid or Vengeance I think
elder gale
Slothful Affluence and Maimed Ambush, Rare, and Atrophic Favor, common.
cunning urchin
Atrophic Favor or reroll for either Strike or Lunge.
elder gale
relentless Volley, Chain Shot, or Sniper Shot(which I need for prophecy)
cunning urchin
Prophecy, I guess, but it will pretty much not do anything for you lol.
But it's not a huge loss over the other options.
Chain Shot, otherwise.
uncut lintel
Alright I'm back. Currently looking at a Hermes door or a miniboss (Asterius possiply) Dionysus door. Thoughts @cunning urchin ?
cunning urchin
I forgot what your build was lol. Chiron with Heartbreak Strike, Deadly Flourish, and what else?
uncut lintel
Hermes to hopefully get Rush Delivery or a possible duo maybe from Dionysus?
heartbreak, deadly, true shot and divine
cunning urchin
Lord Hermes, I guess.
uncut lintel
Got Heart Rend in the very last tunnel 
cunning urchin
Nice nice.
elder gale
https://imgur.com/a/VhYqviq
Choice?
cunning urchin
Hunter Dash.
elder gale
Pom, Curse of Pain 2->3, Hunter Dash 1->2, Static Discharge 1->2
cunning urchin
You're telling me levels like I know all the pom scaling by heart.
Probably Special.
proven osprey
Need to slam an attack on that Rama
cunning urchin
There's already an Attack on it, it's called Hunter Dash.
proven osprey
Pomming doom is probably the best here. Jolted is important but it's only your call and your god gauge building is not amazing
elder gale
I'm going into chamber 23, that's the free boon, right?
proven osprey
yes
cunning urchin
Yes, free room or shop.
cunning urchin
Shop.
cunning urchin
Getting an Attack has priority.
proven osprey
Rama does not hit fast enough for it to matter
cunning urchin
proven osprey
yeah it's the best here
elder gale
Curse of Pain 147 -> 161, Hunter Dash 60% -> 70%, Zeus' Aid 55 -> 75
Dash seems nice.
proven osprey
Pom what you think is better
elder gale
Dionysus is...not one of the scaling attackers, right
opal lodge
what do you mean?
proven osprey
Oh no, the pom scaling of dio is actually really nice
elder gale
No, I mean, like, Percentage. sorry
proven osprey
Oh yeah it's flat damage
cunning urchin
The reason you want a % boon on Rama's Attack is that Shared Suffering spreads your Attack damage, but it doesn't spread things like Hangover, Doom, etc.
The Attack also has very high base damage, so % modifiers are really good.
lime jolt
Oh no, the pom scaling of dio is actually really nice
It goes like📈 and it never ends
boreal prism
Dio hungy
elder gale
Lucifer...seems interesting.
small fable
Is level 1 Beowulf worth it? I wanna get some fun runs with the shield but Zeus and Chaos dont really do it for me. It seems interesting to just get big chunks of damage with Beowulf but the level 1 bonus is only 20%
elder gale
Playing Eris Rail; Ricochet Fire, Piercing Fire, or Delta Chamber(my personal pick before opinions)
Any opinions?
cunning urchin
Delta.
elder gale
Agreed. Not having to reload after getting powered up is nice.
Drunken Strike, Flourish, or Trippy Shot?
I am in the camp of Trippy shot or Strike.
cunning urchin
If you don't make decisions like that yourself and get your own experiences, you'll never develop any confidence in making those decisions.
elder gale
Fair enough
cunning urchin
You can open the codex to see what boons unlock what to plan ahead a bit for any combos you want to try.
The wiki is also really helpful for that.
elder gale
Opinions on Scintillating Feast?
lucid oar
It's pretty good on beowolf, better than ice wine. On other aspects ice wine and scintillating are about equal I'd say.
turbid needle
It does nothing.
elder gale
Cool
Mirage Shot is so good with Trippy...but Support fire works with Exagryph nicely...
ughghrhbh
small fable
Is level 1 Beowulf worth it? I wanna get some fun runs with the shield but Zeus ...
Just asking this since no one answered but is Beowulf level 1 too weak for a good build?
boreal prism
You're at low heat, right?
Beo level 1 is fine, most of the power comes from loading casts
small fable
You're at low heat, right?
Yeah. Around 5 to 10 depending on the weapon
boreal prism
Yeah you'll live
Just um... remember to block!
You basically have 10% less health
cunning urchin
Any Lv.1 aspect is gonna be weak compared to max level.
But you can clear the game with any of them.
I mean, you can literally beat 32 Heat or whatever with just Dash.
boreal prism
Level 1 beo is easier than level 1 gy, in my estimation
cunning urchin
Most certainly.
opal lodge
scint feast is a crazy good boon on any aspect
especially so on eris
its just a strict upgrade from trippy shot. theres no times when you wouldnt want it
boreal prism
i really like most of the cast duos
some of them are funky
ice wine is also just a strict upgrade
boreal prism
but blizzard shot is weird, because it's stronger than the original but it doesn't fill the same role in your build
boreal prism
oh, I never got that
slim lynx
I mean, you can literally beat 32 Heat or whatever with just Dash.
aka lv.1 gilgamesh
opal lodge
schadenfreudic did either 40 or 45 heat with dash only rama
lime jolt
Oh I thought they did special only
pure stone
so, aspect of beowulf+charged shot=aspect of hera but without a debilitating fear of melee range
turbid needle
I guess
pure stone
this is also one of the first times ive actually used posidon shot,and hey, its like dionysus but it trades insane damadge for instant grabablility
i wonder if it plays well with aphrodite shot
turbid needle
its also gud
pure stone
Btw, never got them on the same run, which hits harder, aphrodite shot or dionysis shot
turbid needle
dio shot
valid prism
It's funny because high heat beo players have trouble sometimes with charged shot
Mainly because they're used to the iframes from the charge
pure stone
I feel like someone whose better at the game than I would be nigh immortal with a sheild and a few Athena boons
valid prism
On 50 heat I saw that beo players can fight Hades EM4 by using the map to take advantage
They stick to the wall to reduce a lot their dead angles while blocking with the shield and when they charge they aim another wall and prepare themselves immediately to turn back and block again
opal lodge
charged shot is amazing still imo
just not a style most high heat beo players myself included are used to
esp if you run ruthless
slim lynx
easily one of the best anyheat hammers
pure stone
does naegling board benefit from buffs to cast or attack?
strange lark
does naegling board benefit from buffs to cast or attack?
the bull rush benefits from attack buffs
the cast explosion benefits from buffs to the cast
pure stone
so both will do nicely?
strange lark
well for beowulf most of the damage is coming from the cast
so i would buff the cast as much as possible
pure stone
i already have been
strange lark
good
pure stone
but some extra spice from attack couldent hurt
torn mural
Don't you think using Cast is a bit difficult?Like you gotta retrieve it after every use and stuff.
strange lark
Don't you think using Cast is a bit difficult?Like you gotta retrieve it after ...
upgrading the mirror will help with that
torn mural
upgrading the mirror will help with that
Thanks
unkempt scroll
Hey, can I get some tips for what to go for with the basic shield? Been a long time since I've practiced, and I've just started over, so I don't have many of the items/mirror buffs
uncut lintel
Personally, at that stage I would just grind out the rooms to try to maximize darkness for the mirror. Play whatever boons are fitting your play style and just roll with it for now.
unkempt scroll
I don't remember what's best to use for the shield, though xP
Is it just attack? I'd assume it be most useful with a Poseidon/Zeus combo
strange lark
I don't remember what's best to use for the shield, though xP
Is it just attack?...
for base shield you should just attack
unkempt scroll
Okay
strange lark
dash attack to charge the bull rush
cunning urchin
Attack and Dash-Strikes, Bull Rushes for safety.
You can put Doom on Special for some extra damage.
Best DPS you can get would be Doom on Attack > Deflect on Special > get Merciful End > get Divine Dash.
Easiest build for DPS would be getting Tidal Dash and putting poms on it.
unkempt scroll
If I get doom on attack I'd need to stack on it, no?
I assumed the water attack + lightning effect would be most effective 🤔
cunning urchin
The point of that build is that Merciful End will let all of your attacks that can Deflect immediately proc Doom and add 40 extra damage.
unkempt scroll
If attack is to be my primary dmg
cunning urchin
So your Dash will immediately proc Doom.
unkempt scroll
I don't remember boon names :c
cunning urchin
Merciful End is the Duo Boon from Lady Athena and Lord Ares.
unkempt scroll
Is it a combo boon?
Oh, okay
Heh... I don't even think I have Athena... were they called relic?
turbid needle
Athena's Boons usually have "Divine" in the name.
strange lark
Heh... I don't even think I have Athena... were they called relic?
when you play hades for the first time the first god you get is athena
turbid needle
Strike, Flourish, and Dash.
unkempt scroll
when you play hades for the first time the first god you get is athena
Yes, but I haven't given her a drink yet
strange lark
they deflect things
cunning urchin
Yeah, def try to get keepsakes from everyone. Really opens up what you can do in a run.
unkempt scroll
Ah, that's what they were called
Haven't practiced in a while x)
And I never really bothered to remember boon names
Well, I had to pick doom on special... also got the hammer thing that does dmg when I catch my special, so I guess I'll be using my special for dmg xP
Oh. That dmg from grabbing my special also procs the doom effect :o
Didn't know that
unkempt scroll
Nah. The hammer gave me an upgrade that makes an explosion (50 dmg) when I grab the shield after special
cunning urchin
Explosive Return is really good.
unkempt scroll
So far I like it.
So, now I have Athena's keepsake. Will I be able to make use of it if I select it after defeating the next boss? Or do I have to select it on a new run? I don't remember the "rules" for keepsakes xP
strange lark
So far I like it.
So, now I have Athena's keepsake. Will I be able to make use o...
you can select new keepsakes in between biomes but you have to buy a work order to unlock that
unkempt scroll
I have that. I'm asking if it will take effect even though I've just spoken with Athena (just unlocked the keepsake)
cunning urchin
You could, but it's probably not worth it on this run now since your build has Doom on Special rather than Attack. The build is something you'd want to very single-mindedly go for from the very start. Needs a few pieces to really come together.
strange lark
I have that. I'm asking if it will take effect even though I've just spoken with...
yeah it will work
unkempt scroll
Can't it work on special? Seems okay so far. Also just got the +70% dmg for doom effect
171 + 70% :3
cunning urchin
It can work, yes, but it's far from the optimal Merciful End build. You can still go for it if you want just to see it how it works out.
You'll need Divine Strike (her Attack) to unlock the duo.
unkempt scroll
... Was I not supposed to pick divine dash? :c
strange lark
you were
unkempt scroll
I can't use the list of boons on the book yet 😅
strange lark
but you need her attack to get the duo boon
duos and legendary boons have prerequisites
unkempt scroll
Oh... I guess It's too late to get it, then :c
Unless if I get rather lucky...
Can I get duo boon in one of those chambers with two God options?
strange lark
Can I get duo boon in one of those chambers with two God options?
nah
cunning urchin
Hurray~! 💕
unkempt scroll
Okay, this is pretty cool
460 doom dmg, and I have merciful end + divine dash/strike x)
That minotaur died pretty fast x)
The one that throws a spear hit me twice because of a misstep I did. And that all the dmg I took from that boss, much better than I expected x)
Man, I love that there are all these dialogues in the game. The first time arriving at Cerberus, for example
turbid needle
im trying out a dionysus attack lucifer build, any suggestions?
support fire seems self explanatory, other than that i dont know
just got concetrated beam
unkempt scroll
As far as I remember, Dionysus is pretty good with the week buff
I think you can make it stack more if you get the duo
limber whale
im trying out a dionysus attack lucifer build, any suggestions?
Splitting Headache is the bomb
honest wing
Splitting Headache is the bomb
hehe
unkempt scroll
I have all the weapons now, do I need to to take a run before I can select an aspect?
strange lark
I have all the weapons now, do I need to to take a run before I can select an as...
yes
unkempt scroll
Ah, okay
cunning urchin
https://prnt.sc/12mz7ne
First victory? Congratulations! You can upload your victory screens in #h1-victory-boasting.
sacred glade
I have no idea where to go from here.
unkempt scroll
Where are you, currently?
cunning urchin
To the surface.
sacred glade
Spoilers back in the house, and stuff, maxed out megara and almost maxed thana
unkempt scroll
Heh... The good thing with this game is, you're either at tock buttom or you're at the peak x)
sacred glade
???
unkempt scroll
Underworld = "rock bottom", hence you can only go up
sacred glade
Oh lul
unkempt scroll
But "spoilers back in the house" doesn't really tell me how far you are
But sounds like you have a lot to do, yet
But if you're mostly just playing for the campaign, you can just reset, I guess
I'm gonna practice on EM3 and FO1
I think FO2 is a bit much right off the bat xP
sacred glade
I have not gotten to the epilouge thoe.
unkempt scroll
Then go for that :p
cunning urchin
Get the epilogue, get all of Skelly's prizes, max out all relationships, etc.
Plenty of things to do.
unkempt scroll
And after all that, you can just hone your skills
Took me about 100 attempts to get through epilogue and a 32 heat-run in my first save
unkempt scroll
Just play
sacred glade
Dosnt help that much sorry.
unkempt scroll
Yay, boon list unlocked :3
cunning urchin
Spoilers are allowed in this channel. You can also just spoiler-tag things.
"Almost maxed spoilers" doesn't tell anyone anything.
sacred glade
yeah was here when the game was first released.
unkempt scroll
Uh
sacred glade
then left the server
cunning urchin
Failure is just part of the game, anyway. Just go and try again.
unkempt scroll
If I haven't beaten a 0 heat-run with a weapon and then play with heat 1 or higher, do I not get the materials from 0??
cunning urchin
I believe so.
Or maybe it just counts as getting the 0 Heat first and you have to do 1 Heat or higher now to get more rewards.
unkempt scroll
Isn't this decent enough in terms of practicing? https://prnt.sc/12n27lp
Pretty sure FO2 would be too much
boreal prism
To my understanding, doing more heat than you need to gives you the reward for the heat that you were supposed to be at
Whatcha practicing for?
unkempt scroll
Wanna get used to the FO and EM
But the heat reward says "1"? I haven't completed a run with the fists
uncut lintel
Just unlocked Guan Yu, would somebody mind linking a good build to try with it?
unkempt scroll
cunning urchin
To my understanding, doing more heat than you need to gives you the reward for t...
Yeah, but I think I heard 0 Heat is different. Not something I've had to deal with in like forever lol.
Well, there you go.
unkempt scroll
So, I'm in a way technically forced to complete 0 on every weapon?
boreal prism
Because you already got some bounties on 0, when you increase heat it will give you bounties from 1
But I think it'll give you the heat 0 ambrosia
cunning urchin
So, I'm *in a way* technically forced to complete 0 on every weapon?
Pretty much.
unkempt scroll
Normally it would just give reward based on the lowest. I guess Nyaanyaa's is correct, 0 works different
uncut lintel
Just unlocked Guan Yu, would somebody mind linking a good build to try with it?
uncut lintel
Thanks!
unkempt scroll
I guess the "0 being different" may be to benefit new players? Idk. I guess it just lets you pretty much beat the first part of the campaign and get some materials to upgrade a weapon 🤷
cunning urchin
Something like that, I suppose.
proven osprey
Thanks!
Also spin between waves if you don't have a spin hammer. It's quite dangerous to spin without quick spin
uncut lintel
I was doing just that up until I chose to fight Charon
small fable
Stygian is the way to go for Beowulf trippy shot right?
strange lark
Ye
unkempt scroll
How much does it cost to max out aspect of Chiron?
strange lark
15
unkempt scroll
Okay
sacred glade
Ironicly I maex chiron first
unkempt scroll
Is lightning strike bad to do a run for?
strange lark
Lightning strike on chiron?
unkempt scroll
3 ghosts shot at me while I got charmed three times (I lost 2 DDs) and then I died because of a shielded chariet at the final boss
BS RNG
strange lark
You got charmed?
unkempt scroll
Yes
And then I got damaged by 3 ghosts in an elite encounter
Or something
They shot a lot...
unkempt scroll
You know Aphrodite shoots a charm after you if you don't pick her, right?
unkempt scroll
I might have been able to beat the final boss if it wasn't for the chariot, though
It had a shield and just rammed into me, hitting me 3 times every time...
Or something
Can't dodge that thing, the boss, and other monsters with only 2 dashes
The chariot killed me at the end. The ghosts made me lose 2 DDs before I got out of the lava area
cunning urchin
3 ghosts shot at me while I got charmed three times (I lost 2 DDs) and then I di...
That's what you get for your heresy, heretic! 💕 
unkempt scroll
I don't know what you mean
strange lark
I don't know what you mean
Nyaa likes aphro... a lot
sacred glade
Lol I got 2 duo boons
strange lark
Nice
cunning urchin
Epic.
unkempt scroll
Nyaa likes aphro... a lot
Oh, okay
sacred glade
Both with dyinoisus
cant spell
doing a rama bow
run with duo shot and exploding shot
unkempt scroll
I might be able to go for Smoldering Air, is it worth it? Zeus/Aphro duo
cunning urchin
Smoldering Air is one of the best boons in the game.
As are all of Lady Aphrodite's boons, naturally.
cunning urchin
run with duo shot and exploding shot
Bootleg Hades?
sacred glade
Lol.
cunning urchin
Twin Explosive on Rama is fun.
unkempt scroll
FFS, Demeter effect in third boss makes you take an unnecessary amount of dmg -_-
cunning urchin
You get better at dealing with all those things and avoiding damage.
sacred glade
3rd fight is chaotic but getting used to it again
unkempt scroll
Smoldering Air was my second duo boon (I sold my first) and bought a titan blood, pretty good run, even if I somehow am to lose against the final boss
small fable
what are some good casts for Beowulf other than trippy?
static karma
Aphro and poseidon work I think, not a beo expert but I did 32 and 40 heat with flood flare
uncut lintel
Any tips for a Critical heavy build for a max level Nemesis?
unkempt scroll
Man, I don't get how it has become so hard to beat Hades with fists 😂
I used to beat it with ease on 16 heat-run, now I struggle on a 0 XD
Well, it took me 3 attempts to beat 0 with fists 🤔
chilly ibex
Dark Foresight lets you have better runs and is usually better; Olympian Favor lets you earn meta currency faster, which is a niche use
unkempt scroll
Okay
chilly ibex
Wait, no, sorry, Olympian favor is the one that gives you more rare talents. Still, Dark Foresight beats that
static karma
Use Dark Foresight if you aren’t farming meta currency
chilly ibex
I had the conclusions right and the details off
unkempt scroll
Any recommended boons for basic spear?
cunning urchin
Heartbreak Strike > Zeus' Aid > Smoldering Air.
Tidal Dash.
Ideal hammer is Flurry Jab. The spin hammers are incompatible with Flurry Jab, so if you want that, don't take any spin hammers on first hammer for a chance for Flurry Jab to show up on the second hammer.
Lightning Strike and Deadly Strike are also very good.
Exploding Launcher and Serrated Point are decent hammers, too.
You'd want to avoid Serrated Point if you already have Flurry Jab, though, because it will hurt your DPS.
lucid oar
Lightning Strike and Deadly Strike are also very good.
Is deadly strike worth it over lightning strike on zag spear? I'm only used to Achilles where deadly strike is the way to go.
turbid needle
ive used both, i think i tended to get about the sam edps with either one
lightnings is better for groups and deadly is better for single target
cunning urchin
Is deadly strike worth it over lightning strike on zag spear? I'm only used to A...
Depends on how many Jerkies and boons from Master Chaos you get, pretty much, if you mean "worth it" for DPS.
They're both decent, anyway. Not every run is a speedrun.
unkempt scroll
Sigh... 5/6 0 heat runs. Just need the bow
Btw, my spear run became bit of a mess
I had legendary Aprho on special + Zeus' Aid + special hits 7 enemies + +3 dashes + heroic tidal dash
And crit attack
honest wing
that actually sounds not bad
zeus aid and tidal dash on any weapon can make it pretty good
sacred glade
Builds to go for
sacred glade
Any build to go for, just trying to get better.
turbid needle
is that a question?
sacred glade
I guess so sorry.
turbid needle
no problem, just wondering
idk if i know enough to suggest a general build, is there a weapon you like?
sacred glade
idk if i know enough to suggest a general build, is there a weapon you like?
Not exactly, any ideas?
turbid needle
well i personally like sword and gun
cunning urchin
Guan Yu Tempest Strike spin build.
turbid needle
i like going: nemesis sword, artemis attack and dash, aphrodite special
sacred glade
Have not unlocked guan yu yet, have it avalible but idk if I wana get it
I have the blood to get it.
cunning urchin
Guan Yu is a lot of fun, but Lv.1 Guan Yu can be very difficult.
sacred glade
I need to get enoygh blood to max everything 😦
cunning urchin
One thing at a time. You'll get there eventually.
sacred glade
Heh lol.
cunning urchin
I didn't have all aspects maxed until well after I did 52 Heat. It takes awhile.
turbid needle
you need like 250 blood or so
sacred glade
oof
cunning urchin
Time for 5 Heat then.
sacred glade
oof
turbid needle
pro hades player hours 
sacred glade
lol sorry
turbid needle
I have about 1k now.
wowow
sacred glade
oof
cunning urchin
Still got 3 more badges and 1 house contractor upgrade to purchase.
cunning urchin
Er, I dunno. Sometime back in Early Access.
cunning urchin
Don't remember. There was no ending yet then, so 10 wins was just 10 wins.
My first win was run 30-something.
sacred glade
I remember mine was like 15 or 20ish
can check right now
22 exactly
second wind right afterwards
small fable
Recommendations for a Hera build? I know a good cast is Aphrodite's but aside from that what else should I aim for?
cunning urchin
Tidal Dash, Deadly Strike, Mirage Shot. Ravenous Will, Snow Burst, Parting Shot, Smoldering Air, Sweet Nectar, and Heart Rend are also very good.
Try to get +1 ammo or Cast damage from Master Chaos.
Quick Reload from Lord Hermes is great for bosses.
Best hammer you can get is Flurry Shot. Twin Shot and Triple Shot are great, too.
lime jolt
Heartbreak Strike > Zeus' Aid > Smoldering Air.
I think this more so abuses smoldering air rather than letting the player actually try the spear
oops i didn't read the stuff below that
cunning urchin
Base spear has no damage without Flurry, and even then, you still want Tidal Dash. Is that my fault that Smoldering Air and Tidal Dash are your most reliable DPS?
sacred glade
idk what to play next lol.
cunning urchin
Me either.
cunning urchin
Play whatever has Dark Thirst.
cunning urchin
Here are some Malphon builds. #h1-builds-and-combat message
sacred glade
Just not sure what to put my blood into
cunning urchin
Have you unlocked Hera?
sacred glade
Checking
cunning urchin
Hera is very powerful even at Lv.1.
sacred glade
put all 4 blood into it
lime jolt
^
sacred glade
what shoudl I aim for
lime jolt
It literally needs one blood
sacred glade
Actualy 2
lime jolt
why waste all your blood into one aspect
sacred glade
More benefits
lime jolt
Nyaanyaa was suggesting hera bcs doesn't need much blood to get going and then you can use that to get more blood for other weapons
sacred glade
already maxed chiron
small fable
Just quit and go back into the game if you wanna get your blood back. It should work as long as you didn't leave the training area
lime jolt
yeah thats what I was suggesting
sacred glade
Hera is very powerful even at Lv.1.
Hera and what else
sacred glade
yeah thats what I was suggesting
Hera and what else
hoary sorrel
Does the Aspect of Arthur's higher base damage match or exceed the aspect of nemesis critical bonus?
sacred glade
uuugh died to a bloody bow
turbid needle
arthur has better dmg output generally than nem
but nem can go very hard with heartrend
turbid needle
doesnt feel like it
oh i definitely think nem has better dps
whenever im trying to get a fast time i go with nemesis
arthur is really fun and fairly safe, i tend to go arthur when i do higher heats
but nemesis is definitely better for dps
cunning urchin
doesnt feel like it <:dusa:522248771409543188>
I checked with ellomenop's DPS meter.
turbid needle
I checked with ellomenop's DPS meter. <:squirtnya:472124054644457472>
is that part of the speedrunning modpack?
i downloaded that today so im wondering if i have access to that
cunning urchin
Nope.
uncut lintel
I'm needing to get Vengeful Mood and was curious how I should do an Ares/Zeus build? Like what aspect and where I might want my boons?
jovial fulcrum
zooz is good on Rail and Fists
lucid oar
Zeus special on aspect of Zeus is good, also you might want to consider Arthur for the survivability
jovial fulcrum
besides Ares and Zeus, the other revenge boon are Athena, Demeter and Aphrodite.
Notably, in that pool there's potential for ME and Smoldering
though if you're trying to make Vengeful Mood work, ME is probably asking for too much
uncut lintel
Thanks! I'll probably do a Rail run
opal lodge
is that part of the speedrunning modpack?
hey yom, just a heads up that runs on the modpack arent technically leaderboard legal yet if thats something you were considering
only mod currently allowed is the colorblind mod
turbid needle
oh yeah ik, its just what its called in the other server
im not doing official speedruns just yet
still gotta get better at the game first
but thanks anyway!
turbid needle
whats the best shield aspect
so far ive been going with zagreus and i want to try something else
cunning urchin
Zeus or Beowulf.
lucid oar
Beowulf>>>>>Zeus>Zagreus>>>Chaos
turbid needle
I disagree
cunning urchin
So do I.
lucid oar
What are your rankings then?
turbid needle
how do i use zeus
like it just feels awkward to throw out and leave it
or should i just stick with zagreus and wait for beowulf
vast linden
throw it into a high-traffic area
lucid oar
Thunder/heartbreak flourish, explosive return, throw your shield out and once it's gone past the enemy return it
Dash towards it to return it
vast linden
or have it follow you around while you just reign destruction in a path
turbid needle
beowulf/zeus>chaos>zag
lucid oar
Zag shield is underrated
My IGT shield PB is with zag shield, and that had a 3 sack and no attack boon until Styx chamber 2
turbid needle
none of the shields are terribl
vast linden
frankly
turbid needle
but zag shield just has...not much going for it
vast linden
the shield is really good if you dont like damage
lucid oar
Chaos is pretty bad post nerf
turbid needle
I mean chaos used to be insane but its still okay
proven osprey
Zag shield is good the only tough thing is not to fall asleep while playing it
vast linden
my playstyle with the shield is just dashstrike strike dashstrike bull rush repeat
generally i just go fast
lucid oar
That's the best combo until you get charged shot
vast linden
true
turbid needle
beo and zeus just tie for me because they are both good but are completly diff playstyles
statisticially you'd say zeus is the best shield
since it won max heat
deep oyster
What's the suggested crit build
proven osprey
Max heat routed though
lucid oar
Nemesis/zag bow, hunters mark, deadly strike, heart rend
proven osprey
Beo could easily beat max heat routed too
turbid needle
yeah a bunch of weapons could do it
lucid oar
Yeah beo is a fantastic high heat weapon
turbid needle
but have they done it yet...
vast linden
artemis does give a lot of crits but i havent played enough to find out what would give the most crits
proven osprey
and Baj only did it because Cgull was eager to do one
deep oyster
Hades blade
Artemis main boons
Butterfly pendent all the way through
Prey for the hold x to attach hammer buff
lucid oar
I don't think Zeus can go sub 6 tho
proven osprey
no I mean you don't have to take 64 into account at all
Because 64 routed is not 64 let's be honest
vast linden
except go fast
turbid needle
other than beating td3
deep oyster
Does the BP buff get removed if you change teinkets through the run
lucid oar
All I know about high heat is Athena good Demeter good
proven osprey
Idk which one is better for speedruns, both can go really fast
turbid needle
demeter bad tho
lucid oar
Killing freeze
turbid needle
:(
proven osprey
demeter is alright until AP2
proven osprey
Then it's a gamble but chill is always appreciated
turbid needle
just learn fo2
lime jolt
Just lvl up cast more and you should be fine
floral wren
woah the artemis/poseidon duo boon also works fo demeter's ice beam
opal lodge
Like, anything I can do with this?
whenever you have demeter in the pool on a cast weapon snow burst and rav will are both decent pickups
on melee weapons with casts you kind of want flurry cast
urban vapor
give me a fun build with malphon
boreal prism
Have you tried tidal dash gilgamesh?
urban vapor
i have not unlocked gilgamesh yet
boreal prism
Ah ok
unkempt scroll
Dang... I've forgotten EM + FO :I
I used like, 7 DDs, and lost to Tiny Vermin <.<
But now I at least have maxed Aspect of Chiron, may help me a bit... Somebody know what's best to go for? 🤔
slim lynx
@unkempt scroll start with eternal rose for heartbreak strike from aphrodite, then just take deadly flourish (arty) or drunken flourish (dionysus), whichever one comes first
lucid oar
But now I at least have maxed Aspect of Chiron, may help me a bit... Somebody kn...
Tempest flourish is also decent if you get sea storm, also for your hammers concentrated volley is the best by far, if you don't get that settle with relentless volley.
jolly cliff
Whoa thanks a lot I’ll try them out and see what works for me best.
cunning urchin
Wrong channel, but you're welcome.
heady peak
Turns out that Smoldering Air breaks the ||Sigil of the Dead||. The Call is entirely unusable and is stuck at 24% out of 25%, just short of 1 bar.
Here is what it looks like:
||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/398896768399704082/840934136222318592/unknown.png?width=1246&height=701||
finite iris
oh ok, I always wondered, since the wiki says „not compatible“. Turns out you still can choose it, however it doesn’t work with sigil of the dead. On the other hand locking away the duo would feel bad as well, since u still can change the sigil until styx. Did you get it before you equipped the sigil or afterwards? The sigil maybe shouldn’t count as a requirement for smoldering air, does it?
heady peak
No, I have basically confirmed that without a call, smoldering air does not show up. You must first obtain smoldering air, purge the original call that enabled it, then equip Sigil of the Dead to reproduce this.
I posted this in case people wondered what it would turn out to look like.
finite iris
Tbh I think noone really wonders about that. Sigil states it needs 50% for 1 charge, max 2 charges. Every other call has 4 charges, 1 every 25%. Smoldering states max charge rate is 25%. I rather wonder that it‘s possible to pull off.
cunning urchin
You have to purge your Call in order to get both Smoldering Air and Hades' Aid.
These interactions are intentional, anyway.
finite iris
The intention is to show people math is a thing? 
cunning urchin
Hades' Aid had 4 charges at 1.0 release, and it was very broken especially with Smoldering Air. Practically every single speedrun on every aspect had the Sigil equipped from Elysium on and often from Asphodel on.
finite iris
ah ok
cunning urchin
It's still used a lot now, but the balance is much better.
Artemis' Aid only requires 20% and has 5 charges, by the way.
heady peak
Artemis Aid is crap unless you use a full call though
finite iris
oh cool, actually didn’t notice that after 200 hours playing
finite iris
Artemis Aid is crap unless you use a full call though
paired with the zeus boon, that increases your total dmg after using call it‘s quite ok to use 1 charge
edit: typo
heady peak
That's because that boon is overpowered by itself, you could have a call that does absolutely nothing and smoldering air + billowing strength would see use
At any rate, I don't see the point in changing the entire game because some speedrunners can't figure out how to make a category without Sigil of the Dead
cunning urchin
Artemis' Aid lesser call is great for kickstarting your Hunter's Mark dominoes.
slim lynx
speaking of hunter's mark
remind me to never not take it when i'm running flood flare beo
heady peak
There isn't even a mod that reverts the Hades Keepsake change as far as I can see, this is troublesome.
cunning urchin
remind me to never not take it when i'm running flood flare beo
If you still have 2–3 priority slots open, Hunter's Mark is your best chance to get Mirage Shot on the next boon from Lady Artemis.
Same with Razor Shoals and Poseidon.
Typhoon's Fury and Breaking Wave hurt your chances a lot.
slim lynx
i already know about priority
but hunter's mark on flood flare with deadly strike just sounds stupidly strong on encounters
bold solar
just got to experience Minotaur Rush + Charged Shot + Tempest Strike for one of the strongest builds ive ever had with the shield
teal tangle
I saw in a video that the game tries to limit you to 4 gods in each build
Is that accurate or not really?
turbid needle
it does that yeah
turbid needle
I saw in a video that the game tries to limit you to 4 gods in each build
Not including Hermes or chaos but yeah
At least I don’t think chaos counts
I think it’s beneficial, most of the time I’d rather have more of what I’ve got than trying to spread myself too thin
Especially when going for legendäres or duos
teal tangle
hmmm
turbid needle
Legendaries*
teal tangle
I am just starting to look up which duos and legendaries I can go for
but I haven't really got an idea of which are good yet
turbid needle
I think that just comes from e perience
Experience
I’d suggest trying to go for lots of dates choices whenever you have the opportunity, even if it isn’t optimal it will help with prophecies as well as teach you which things feel good and which don’t
In my first like 20 hours of gameplay I almost exclusively used trippy shot for everything, it’s not bad but now I know that just relying on it all the time isn’t very optimal
teal tangle
I see, thank!
bold solar
also does anyone have a good general purpose keepsake recommendation? not sure how to pick between stuff
turbid needle
also does anyone have a good general purpose keepsake recommendation? not sure h...
This is mostly preference but my personal favorites are tooth for tough fights, earring for damage, coin purse is nice to take at some point in the run, egg is good to start runs for better chaos boons, and plume is good to keep during an entire run
Acorn is also nice for tough fights
cunning urchin
God #1> god #2> coin purse/hourglass/acorn > acorn is very common.
bold solar
nod. currently just sorta trying everything and seeing how they feel. Cerberus's collar is kinda nice early.
nod. yeah that makes sense, im still struggling to figure out how to pick which gods i want in a run
turbid needle
I sorta wish collar was like coin purse, but then maybe it would be too strong
cunning urchin
egg is good to start runs for better chaos boons
Not really. Cosmic Egg is best in Asphodel or Erebus where you can check the Well of Charon for a Light of Ixion before choosing your keepsake.
turbid needle
Ah yeah that makes sense too, I was just putting my personal preferences in
Also I think you mean elysium
cunning urchin
Skull Earring for DPS only really makes sense if you run LC4 with Stubborn Defiance.
bold solar
what're gods that go well with the gun, y'all think?
turbid needle
Btw Nyaa idk if I’ve mentioned but I appreciate all the advice, it’s been helping me a lot in my runs
cunning urchin
Sure thing!
turbid needle
what're gods that go well with the gun, y'all think?
I think Zeus is pretty common for attack
cunning urchin
what're gods that go well with the gun, y'all think?
bold solar
ty
cunning urchin
There are other viable builds, but of course. But that's how you optimize it for DPS.
surreal oak
I'm having issues getting past Elysium with the gun. I'm trying to decide which aspect to unlock for it. I've got a few extra blood thingies.
turbid needle
Yeah, my all time favorite build is Eros rail cluster bomb rocket bomb and deadly flourish
Eris*
leaden iron
Eros cluster bomb would have been an interesting weapon
cunning urchin
Mothers Day Challenge
“Mother? Nyx? I know this cannot possibly repay you for everything you've done for me, but... please accept this gift from me. Thank you for always being there to support me. Happy Mothers Day!“
Conditions:
(1) Forge bonds with Lady Nyx and Queen Persephone.
(2) Display Lady Nyx's portrait in the House.
(3) Add flowers to Lady Nyx's spot in the House.
(4) Complete both of the following runs:
Gift for Mother
Keepsake: Pom Blossom (whole run)
Upgrade at least one boon to Lv.20 or higher.
Gift for Nyx
Keepsake: Black Shawl (whole run)
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unkempt pagoda
__**Mothers Day Challenge**__
*“Mother? Nyx? I know this cannot possibly repay y...
willow haven
strange lark
nice
sand sorrel
👀
pale kayak
silk hearth
thats nice lol
cunning urchin
Nice. One done.
silk hearth
btw how do i remove my hades monthly challenge role? i stopped playing the game
pale kayak
My quick question is: What happens if you already have both of their bonds fully forged?
strange lark
btw how do i remove my hades monthly challenge role? i stopped playing the game
type the same thing into #bot-commands
?role
silk hearth
cool thanks
pale kayak
Sorry to see you go.
pale kayak
Understandable.
cunning urchin
My quick question is: What happens if you already have both of their bonds fully...
Then you don't need to do that anymore.
pale kayak
Alright, cool! Was just curious. c:
teal tangle
How do I decide which thing to grab from eurydice?
Like what influences my decision?
strange lark
How do I decide which thing to grab from eurydice?
for me i will take the ambrosia if i have a low amount of boons, if i have a high amount of boons then i will take the pom, and if i need to get a high rarity boon i will take the nectar
teal tangle
thanks
cunning urchin
When you don't know what to take, take Refreshing Nectar. That's always good.
teal tangle
Actually how does the leveling rarity system work?
how does leveling a boon and rarity of a boon differ?
dusky drum
rarity is essentially just the base and the base does not affect the pom scaling iirc
like the aphro attack no matter the rarity will get 20% from the first pom
cunning urchin
Base is Lv.1 common. Rarity and pom bonuses are additive.
Poms have diminishing returns.
Some boons can't be upgraded with poms.
teal tangle
So what is better, lvl 2 of something common or blue rarity lvl 1 of the same thing?
halcyon flint
IMO Arthur has the best aspect
coral glacier
For example, common lvl. 2 Billowing Strength is better than epic lvl. 1
halcyon flint
For example, common lvl. 2 Billowing Strength is better than epic lvl. 1
Wait fr?
I didn't know
coral glacier
Whereas e.g. for Pressure Points, every level and every rarity is exactly +1%
teal tangle
Thanks a lot for all the help 🙂
teal tangle
Damn
coral glacier
Might be slightly out of date e.g. for Trippy Flare, but I think most of it should still apply
teal tangle
That is awesome
lucid oar
For pretty much all casts and calls, common lvl 2 is better than epic level 1.
coral glacier
One thing to note is that (at least for base damage boons like casts, not sure about the rest), pom scaling is based off the common value. So the amount gained from pomming a boon doesn't depend on rarity, rarity just determines the starting value
An example of a boon that scales very well with rarity would be Static Discharge, where Epic is up to double the common base damage
harsh lance
Hey can somebody tell me what's up with the resources director? Does it gives you something else than a nice thing on the bottom of the screen
strange lark
he eats your resources and rewards you with a badge
thats it
its an endgame thing
harsh lance
Damn so i've been wasting my resources on him
strange lark
rip
boreal prism
Reforge on sword is risky
Are you willing to take the chance you end up with cursed slash
cunning urchin
Cursed Slash is decent.
cunning urchin
Sure. You heal 2 HP per hit. Easy to cheese the fight.
iron locust
86 health but 2 hp gained per hit. If you're careful and patient, honestly? Cursed Slash is good
Just don't get smacked around or combo'd by dad
Keep clear from pots and lasers
elder gale
So, Shield...i don't use it much...seems meh except for zeus...
pure stone
on demand invincibility to 90% of the attacks in the game seems meh?
elder gale
I'm more of an aggressive player, is all.
pure stone
ah
ok, question
aspect of eris triplebomb
if the first bombs hit me, are the next 2 damadge boosted
elder gale
Depends if damage boost calculation happens on the attack press or on damage. Also if the bombs are simultaneous.
And pretty sure it happens when it connects
but idk if it's a simultaneous attack? Like, if all 3 bombs hit at the same time.
pure stone
you can stagger them so at least visually, one hits, then the other 2 do
elder gale
Then yes
Most likely.
Zag Shield, first boon is Aphrodite...2 rerolls possible.
Common Flourish and Shot...or rare dash.
cunning urchin
Roll for Heartbreak Strike or take Passion Dash.
elder gale
Pom or Zeus
Actually, lemme check Zeus duo with Aphro
Right, Smoldering air...not great with sigil, right?
turbid needle
I'd always take boons over poms in general
elder gale
I only have one boon, tho, Heartbreak Strike, and it gets super powerful the more poms you dump into it.
Okay, Daedelus...opinions on Ferocious Guard?
Other choices are Sudden Rush and Charged Shot
elder gale
I have two fated choices in the other ones, tho. :V
turbid needle
why even ask
split relic
Question
I'm in between styx and after theseus
Does stubborn defiance activate per little room of styx?
Like each little room
lucid oar
Yes
lucid oar
Yes
split relic
Cool
hoary sorrel
Is it just me or does Phalanx Dash make the final boss trivially easy?
lime jolt
Right, Smoldering air...not great with sigil, right?
Doesn’t work with sigil
If it did, it would be even more busted than it already is
urban vapor
best build for guan yu? i have lvl3 aspect + all keepsakes except aphrodite's
daedalus hammer suggestions appreciated
turbid needle
you either want special based build w charged skewer or spin build with quickspin and the bigspin
turbid needle
yes
urban vapor
also
how do you get consistent duo boons
is there any way other than increasing chance through mirror
urban vapor
i see
teal tangle
With knock back boons can you knockback hades?
patent raven
Is getting Cluster Rockets particularly hard from a probability standpoint? I’ve done ten runs with Eris (trying for a dream run to get a sub-10 speedrun), and only seen rockets once. Not after I got the cluster, though.
teal tangle
And hit him into walls for the extra damage?
patent raven
With knock back boons can you knockback hades?
Don’t believe so.
boreal prism
Bosses are immune to knockback
If your build is posiedon centric you want the boon that deals bonus dmg to bosses
cunning urchin
They're not immune. They're resistant.
elder gale
I've knocked around Lernie a couple of times with the shield.
turbid needle
They move very very little.
Basically just enough to trigger actual knockback effects like Sea Storm.
teal tangle
Thanks for all the help again!@
cunning urchin
Chiron with Tempest Flourish and Relentless Volley can do some real knockback on bosses.
vast linden
how well does the aegis aspect of zeus scale?
cunning urchin
Scale? What do you mean by that?
strange lark
I think they mean the level of the aspect
cunning urchin
I dunno. Just level it up if you want to play it. It's definitely not a waste.
cunning urchin
It's pretty good.
cunning urchin
Dodge is additive. You can actually get 100% Dodge chance lol though normally only temporarily.
vast linden
since i am on hell mode
cunning urchin
Hmmm. Talos is fun, but Zag Aspect and Demeter Aspect are stronger overall. But keep in mind, that's when playing them optimally.
You could get Talos Lv.1 just to unlock it and see how you like it.
cunning urchin
Well, there you go. Choose what you like more because that's probably what you'll be playing more.
vast linden
alright
cunning urchin
You still need a few things to happen in your run to be able to actually just tank with Zag Fists.
vast linden
like positive outlook, other stuff like that
defensive boons are key to facetank
hermes dodge chance also helps
cunning urchin
On its own, +15% dodge chance at max level is only +17% HP, effectively.
vast linden
yeah
cunning urchin
I used to play nothing but Zag Fists with Divine Strike lol.
vast linden
ah
cunning urchin
"Strike" is always Attack.
boreal prism
Wait wouldn't +15% dodge chance be +15% health?
cunning urchin
No.
cunning urchin
eHP = HP/(1-dodge chance)
So 1/.85 = 1.176 = 118%
I rounded to 17 instead of 18 earlier because it's 2 a.m.
vast linden
f
cunning urchin
@boreal prism this post explains it quite well, I think. https://forum.albiononline.com/index.php/Thread/24102-Effective-HP-Formula-Check-my-work/?postID=260093#post260093
Not the OP.
leaden iron
Now I'm imagining EM4 Hades using "2 a.m." as an excuse to bypass your dodge
leaden iron
Wait isn't this formula for guaranteed damage reduction?
Not for a dodge chance?
The formula seems to mean "If you always take 50% less damage this is how much HP you actually have"
vast linden
its pretty much how it would work though
sure the actual damage you take without healing before you die may vary
but it would be the average
cunning urchin
It's the same for Dodge chance, it's just an average in that case.
vast linden
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vast linden
after party is really good
boreal prism
Ty