Charged Shot, ideally.
#h1-builds-and-combat
cunning urchin
static ibex
yikes Smoldering air, I never choose that
split relic
For zeus would u wanna like toss it on the boss and go to town attacking?
cunning urchin
You should. Smoldering Air is one of the very best boons in the game.
static ibex
Zeus attack + aphro special is usually good for fast attack weapons, though I wouldn't categorize shield as fast per se
cunning urchin
For zeus would u wanna like toss it on the boss and go to town attacking?
Yeah, you basically use your Attack like Zag Shield and keep throwing and recalling your Special to keep it on the boss.
split relic
Ahh ok
I was doing that for hydra heads but I didn't. Know if that's what I should do
static ibex
what special is that?
cunning urchin
Frost Flourish. Special didn't matter, anyway.
cunning urchin
I just grabbed Frost Flourish hoping for Cold Fusion.
static ibex
Aphrodite attack or Artemis eh? I guess I could try both to see what works most efficiently
cunning urchin
Like I said, Heartbreak Strike + Zeus' Aid + Smoldering Air works on all the shields. On Chaos and Zeus, you'd put something like Thunder Flourish, Drunken Flourish, or Deadly Flourish on your Special, though ideally just Thunder Flourish.
And on Beowulf, you prioritize your Cast, anyway.
Passion Flare and Flood Flare for consistently fast runs.
static ibex
I love poseidon cast
cunning urchin
Then look for Snow Burst + Ravenous Will and potentially Mirage Shot.
boreal prism
Aphro deals damige
cunning urchin
How are all your runs sub 10
Practice, practice, practice. 
static ibex
alright, thanks for the recs, i'll give it a go later
static ibex
my runs are typically right at 20, I'm not sure how to fathom 10. Probably just rip up bosses much faster I would assume. I feel I go through normal rooms fairly fast lol
opal lodge
for sub 10 rooms should take anywhere from 10-15 on the shorter end and 30s on the longer end
furies are usually around 15-30, lernie 30-1 min, heroes 15-20s and dad 1 min
gusty rapids
bosses usually aren't going to be where the majority of your timeloss is
being slightly slow in each room adds up a lot
static ibex
I feel like theseus takes me the longest since I usually focus on Asterius first. I should probably get in the habit or attacking them simultaneously or opportunistically instead
cunning urchin
You could watch some speedruns for how they deal with them.
But the key part is just having ridiculous DPS by then.
gusty rapids
yee you should have a good enough build by then to burst them down
they should be the quickest due to fewest invuln phases
cunning urchin
Which is where knowledge of builds and how to use poms etc. comes in.
cunning urchin
Also: start fight > tap up on d-pad/keyboard > summon Meg > ??? > profit.
split relic
How summon meg?
olive pivot
wait, is this 5 bloods on each aspect or just 5 bloods on a weapon in general
split relic
U need to spend at least one blood on each weapon that isn't zag aspect
And then 5 more on the weapon of ur choosing iirc
olive pivot
there's the issue
cunning urchin
You'll need to advance your relationship with Meg.
static ibex
give all the stuff.... to all the recipients you can
split relic
I'm tryna get all the god keepsakes rn
Rn I only artemis poseidon and vhaos
Cause I only use chaos and poseidon for hera
Or apho
Aphro*
static ibex
they're like Pokemon - gotta catch em all!
olive pivot
Wait, Hera bow is good?
split relic
Y E S
olive pivot
I only ever use Chiron
olive pivot
if i get lucky with daedalus and get concentrated shot or the one that gives +4 to special
and then get a boon that increases special damage/zeus
each boss takes very little time
split relic
My build usually is poseidon or aphro cast
With artemis attack
And more crit boons
static ibex
I always went with Dionysius special on Chiron paired with Aphro attack, get that additional stacking Duo Boon and let Hangover do its thing
split relic
What are the stuff at bottom of keepsakes?
olive pivot
^
olive pivot
I'd love to max out hearts but I never understood how to get past the locked ones
split relic
Locked is ambrosia iirc
cunning urchin
If all goes well with Hera, the fight vs Theseus and Asterius should look something like this. 
https://youtu.be/JXjY3ImN8NU?t=1040
gusty rapids
the casual self plugs today
split relic
i have like... 9 just sitting in inv
It might be tied to certain dialogue that has to trigger because I remember people telling me that it was for friendships
cunning urchin
She's a really good Hades player. You should follow her and subscribe and all that.
I know I would.
split relic
Also what does the fishing rod do?
static ibex
it ... wait for it ... fishes
olive pivot
if you interact with them you can fish
if you get a fish you can trade it with the chef for rewards
lime jolt
Ok I fixed ya'lls ZAP issues in the guide and put smoldering air on there
olive pivot
how does anyone use guan yu is my question
lime jolt
yeah
static ibex
find flashing spot in map, also there's a chime when you clear a level to give you an indication one exists. Find it, interact, press the button when the fish descends completely. It does a lot of fake outs but you'll learn the timings
lime jolt
how does anyone use guan yu is my question
you can look at my guide
static ibex
trade in the fish to the chef for prizes
lime jolt
cunning urchin
the casual self plugs today
Slander. https://imgur.com/a/5jYyIUh
proven osprey
Local Nyaanyaa gets banned for abusive non usage of #self-promotion 
olive pivot
...uh
lime jolt
Nyaanyaa how dare you
olive pivot
charged skewer
olive pivot
yes
lime jolt
Charged skewer increases the special damage by 200%
This scales very well with deadly flourish- a multiplicative damage source
olive pivot
oh wait it's the one that increases damage if you charge special
lime jolt
yeah
olive pivot
and range
lime jolt
the range doesn't change
Not by that much
I feel like charged skewer range is shorter, but they are probably the same
olive pivot
This scales very well with deadly flourish- a multiplicative damage source
this is ares special right
olive pivot
I'm foolish
and never voluntarily pick up artemis boons
i should probably do that more
lime jolt
Why not?
cunning urchin
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Breaching Skewer or Serpent Wing. Serrated Point is good if you have extra dashes. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.
Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.
You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).
lime jolt
cunning urchin
You can also do Curse of Agony > Divine Flourish > Divine Dash + Merciful End.
olive pivot
What's the crit percentage on deadly flourish at base?
lime jolt
20%
cunning urchin
20%.
lime jolt
hehe
cunning urchin
15% is Attack lol.
proven osprey
yes
jovial fulcrum
and cast iirc
olive pivot
...ah, I see
proven osprey
Deadly flourish is amazing
cunning urchin
Cast is 10%.
lime jolt
I've done so many hestia resets that I've just got it imprinted in my brain that its 15%
cunning urchin
You don't know it's 10% because you don't use it much; I don't use it much because I know it's 10%.
cunning urchin
lol
cunning urchin
Call is 35%.
cunning urchin
lol
jovial fulcrum
base aegis
cunning urchin
Heartbreak Strike + Zeus' Aid + Smoldering Air should carry you pretty easily.
lime jolt
Just get like doom special and hide behind your shield
split relic
Oki
lime jolt
Or what nyaanyaa said
split relic
What's zeus's aid?
split relic
Ahh
jovial fulcrum
not even Dio Aid smh
jovial fulcrum
its a Duo
cunning urchin
Smoldering Air is their Duo Boon.
split relic
Oh
jovial fulcrum
it gives you a minor call every, what, couple seconds
cunning urchin
Every 5 seconds.
jovial fulcrum
assuming you dont deal any damage in the meantime
split relic
Ok
lime jolt
My aid tier list goes Poseidon>Dio>Zeus>Aphrodite>Athena>Demeter>Artemis>Ares
But zeus is better for smoldering since you have half the duo boon pre reqs complete
jovial fulcrum
I'd put Posiden below Zeus personally.
Dio is the best call by a lot imo, and Zeus makes Smoldering Air easy peasy
lime jolt
well poseidon just kinda carries you, both literally and figuratively
split relic
Lol
jovial fulcrum
Idk, I'm not a huge fan of the calls that don't let you act normally when they're active
cunning urchin
Poseidon's Aid has carried many a high heat run through the Hades fight.
split relic
Wut sa good hammer path for hera
cunning urchin
The DPS from Zeus' Aid can scale much higher than Dionysus' Aid, but they're both amazing. I'll take whichever I see first.
split relic
Rn I'm at powr shot 150%
cunning urchin
Anything for Attack is good except Sniper Shot is not really.
jovial fulcrum
Poms on Dio call are just so insane
split relic
Ok
static ibex
question - I've got Charged Shot on shield now, piercing shot at 80 dmg
cunning urchin
Best hammers are Twin Shot and Triple Shot.
static ibex
I have a chance to pick up Minotaur Rush with gives me Power Rush at 500% damage
jovial fulcrum
the first pom is, like, +6? for dio call
static ibex
does that mean my piercing shot will do 500%?
boreal prism
The thing to remember with dio is that hangover boons can overwrite other hangover boons... sometimes for the worst
cunning urchin
Yes, it will mean that. But most of the time you're faster just spamming quick-release Charged Shots.
jovial fulcrum
afaik, Dio Call always take priority
cunning urchin
But it's good for bosses.
cunning urchin
afaik, Dio Call always take priority
No, most recent overrides.
jovial fulcrum
I guess I was lied to
split relic
Does the faded persuasion only work once per run or is it once per room
boreal prism
So if you hit asterius with your level 5 dio call and then you hit him with your level 1 dio attack then you will lose big dps
cunning urchin
You have 1-4 dice for your whole run.
Depending on your level of Fated Persuasion.
static ibex
not bad, hit Asterius for 2400 damage with a charged shield shot, lol
cunning urchin
But you can pick up more from Chthonic Key chambers if you have the upgrade from the House Contractor.
cunning urchin
not bad, hit Asterius for 2400 damage with a charged shield shot, lol
Nice!
orchid pike
console controllers
static ibex
thanks to Chaos 150% bonus backstab damage
orchid pike
damn u speedrunnas are hardcore
proven osprey
turbid needle
Very possible.
proven osprey
Just go TD3
turbid needle
Maxed Tight Deadline puts you at 20 minutes at the end.
proven osprey
and you'll get it with practice
cunning urchin
I think the worst times I get on Malphon are like 12:xx with bad hammers etc. and a 5 sack? But that's a really bad run.
lime jolt
use this if you want to speedrun
orchid pike
i could fit in so many extra runs if i could consistently sub-15
cunning urchin
Yup.
proven osprey
IGT
jovial fulcrum
I'm not quite at reliable TD3 yet, but I'm getting close.
It usually depends on the aspect for me
cunning urchin
But you gotta do a lot of runs to get to that pace. 
proven osprey
Consistent sub 15 RTA is not possible lol
lime jolt
I was about to say lol
cunning urchin
Also keep in mind that the majority of those runs on the speedrun leaderboard had a lot of resets to get the right hammers and boons and room RNG.
boreal prism
Consistent sub 15 RTA is impossible because fishing spots are just too tempting
cunning urchin
There are some hammers that if you're speedrunning do literally nothing for you, or even worse, hurt you by preventing another hammer from appearing later on.
So if your first hammer is three of those, you just reset.
orchid pike
looking at the leaderboards everyone's rta is 2-4x their igt wtf
cunning urchin
And if you're going for WR pace, you reset until you get the best hammer in Tartarus.
orchid pike
MedicCasts though Pog
static ibex
well just got through with Zagreus Shield, not a big fan
proven osprey
you cannot convert IGT into RTA it's too inconsistent
but yeah the IGT timer stops at various times
jovial fulcrum
in theory you could just pause the game for half an hour and still have an IGT world record desptie having an almost hour long run RTA
cunning urchin
lol
jovial fulcrum
they're really not related at all
opal lodge
well
fast RTAs are usually fast IGTs
by fast im generally talking sub 15 RTA and sub 8 IGT
thats about the extent to which theyre convertible
opal lodge
hmmmmmmmmmmm
jovial fulcrum
hrm
orchid pike
meditate between rooms to be in the right mindset
lime jolt
hmm
lucid oar
If I'd submitted my PB to speedrun.com, mods would have had to watch me lose a death defiance to lava after the lernie fight because I wasn't paying attention
opal lodge
im down
cunning urchin
He's a verifier.
lime jolt
Yeah
cunning urchin
No mod role for him.
lime jolt
But aren't they called mods on speedrun.com
lime jolt
Moderated by:
teddyras, webs2d, Jerds, JDN, GuardianRoborn, Vorime, bablo, Museus, wriste13, Duunk0, SatanIsAChillGuy, Katetwo, bright01, Ananke
cunning urchin
They're mods, but they're not allowed.
Oh.
No, that's a different person.
You got bright01.
lime jolt
ohh
cunning urchin
This is Bright01.
cunning urchin
bright01 DMs you to bully you because you went AFK for 15 minutes on a speedrun.
Bright01 wouldn't do that. Bright01 is nice.
orchid pike
i mean what can u expect from someone who hasnt learned capitalization
lime jolt
what do you expect from someone who doesn't use apostrophes's
tired snow
In solidarity we should all pause for fifteen minutes on one run
opal vortex
Does dashing with divine dash really activate doom when you have ME? ME requires athena to be on attack or special so why would dashing cause it to proc?
static ibex
yes it does
boreal prism
It works i promise
magic rivet
Those are requirements to get the boon because if the dash qualified it'd be too broken
cunning urchin
Because unlocking it with Dash was too broken, so they changed it, yes.
boreal prism
Oh you used to be able to get it with dash?
cunning urchin
They don't mind "gamebreaking" if it's also relatively rare.
In Early Access, yes.
In 1.0, they changed it.
boreal prism
Dang...
cunning urchin
It also added 50 damage instead of 40 lol.
opal vortex
I guess you can deflect Theseus' call back on to him? I have no dionysus, but Theseus had hangover on him
and rush delivery + hyper spring = very strong dash attack?
lime jolt
oh yeah
orchid pike
damn just unlocked excalibur and it feels so sluggish
opal vortex
lol I just had a 5 tunnel sack
orchid pike
how do u even play this? stay on special and facetank everything?
opal vortex
try hitting dash THEN special. He'll slam down where he ends up. It helps
opal vortex
the slam into the ground isn't your special?
You get side hussle when entering dad fight. lol "Give me almost completely pointless for 500, Alex"
orchid pike
well this looks like the first lost run in a while lol
fervent elbow
The slam is your special, when I say you don't use it, use it when nothing already attack you because it's slow
Arthur moveset is slow but that doesn't mean it's terrible, you need to get used to it
orchid pike
well i won anyway with 3 dds to spare cause this game is too easy
jovial fulcrum
crank up the heat then :)
ornate ravine
C H A R G E D S H O T is just lul
ornate ravine
xD
boreal prism
1 heat runs.... some 1 heat runs are wayyy harder than other ones
ornate ravine
but still 1 heat is 1 heat
boreal prism
people are gonna be at different skill levels, it's not shameful
ornate ravine
true
split relic
people are gonna be at different skill levels, it's not shameful
I have died to hades 5 times in 5 consecutive runs
At least I'm being consistent
boreal prism
well, which heat are you using, and what problems are you having
split relic
I'm using the higher hp enemies heat
split relic
well, which heat are you using, and what problems are you having
High hp enemies
boreal prism
that one isn't the worst, but it will impact your final boss
boreal prism
@split relic what are your clear times for 0 heat
you might be able to take tight deadline 1 without affecting your playstyle at all
dusky drum
imo tight deadline, damage control, extreme measures, and maybe convenience fee if you dnt need shops
are super easy low heat
boreal prism
tight deadline can be totally free depending on the weapon and how fast you already play
em1 is technically not free but once you're out of tartarus it's exactly like 0 heat
dusky drum
benefits package is also kinda easy, makes the enemies a bit more fresh
but dont take routine inspection or heightened security as low heat
just as a general thing
boreal prism
damage control is free with a fast weapon
dusky drum
most high heat runners dont take routine inspection or heightened security unless its stupid high like 50 or smth
boreal prism
heightened security is the biggest trick in the game... it seems so free until you try it
dusky drum
seems free until you take 150 from dad pots ;w;
my day be so fine
then boom
heightened security
boreal prism
sometimes i feel like dad pots are just there to punish you for having a dash boon
orchid pike
idk heigheted security always sounded awful to me
i get hit by traps all the time
not to mention lava
eugh
split relic
<@!407037931358912512> what are your clear times for 0 heat
I only cleared heat 0 once
split relic
Lmk check
boreal prism
especially if the problem you're having is the final boss
lime jolt
dmg control is practically free, on fists or gun
Idk it still hurts
orchid pike
idk how u all know them names
boreal prism
well hold on... if you only cleared heat 0 once, then you don't have to do heat 1 yet
you can just do heat 0 on all the other weapons
boreal prism
idk how u all know them names
we just look them up every time
orchid pike
why not just call them by what they do
boreal prism
because that would take longer?
split relic
well hold on... if you only cleared heat 0 once, then you don't have to do heat ...
I got all heat 0 bounties besides hadds
Hades
On every weapon except bow
boreal prism
it seems like your problem is fighting the final boss, more than it is with heat
orchid pike
2nd phase is the easiest
split relic
Not
boreal prism
runs are easier when bosses drop darkness instead of another item, because that way you can get back to full health after every boss using "dark regeneration"
opal lodge
2nd phase is usually easier than 1st
split relic
Well it seems to be a big problem with enemies
Like I weaken from first
Then die to second
boreal prism
2nd phase seems a lot more reliable, at least
1st phase it seems like he can spawn anything
boreal prism
1st phase actually has 3 "phases"
split relic
Oh
boreal prism
in the first 1/3 of health, he just hits you and throws skulls
once he reaches 2/3 health, he will spawn some enemies
split relic
Ahh
boreal prism
once he reaches 1/3 health, he will kill all the enemies he has and then spawn new ones
boreal prism
merciful end is the best duo boon in the game, it's athena/ares
boreal prism
you'll get plenty of chances to run ME once it's the only available build you can run
slim lynx
ares attack > athena special > merciful end > athena dash
split relic
Ahh ME is cast?
orchid pike
how many runs in are u
boreal prism
ME is duo
dusky drum
merciful end is lame
its the only build ik how to do with gilga fists ;w;
boreal prism
you can run anything on nemesis sword
orchid pike
by the 10th run i could already do heat0 with ease
split relic
how many runs in are u
Like 20-30 runs
split relic
by the 10th run i could already do heat0 with ease
I can do heat0 consistent besides hades
boreal prism
there's no need to shame people about their skill at the game
orchid pike
just build zeus on everything
split relic
Wait so ME does what?
boreal prism
the thing with crit sword is that it benefits from any % increases to attack
because that'll make your crits even critter
split relic
Wait wouldn't I wanna build artemis for crit?
dusky drum
Wait so ME does what?
essentially once you have doom procked, anything that has the deflect property instantly deals the doom + 40
split relic
More crit
ornate ravine
i clear hellmode easily with charged shot+shield and athena build
boreal prism
you can build arty for sure
ornate ravine
u just blast anything
split relic
essentially once you have doom procked, anything that has the deflect property i...
Ahh
Ty
boreal prism
or build aphro, aphro has biggest % increase damage
split relic
Tru
ornate ravine
i clear hellmode easily with charged shot+shield and athena build
full clear took me 46 min
cunning urchin
he will kill all the enemies he has and then spawn new ones
lol you wish.
orchid pike
if you¡re struggling you're probably not spamming dash as much as you should
dusky drum
ahh the sweep
lime jolt
You can i frame it
split relic
Ye I hate that one
lime jolt
Don’t waste your dashes
dusky drum
for that dash to the side twice
split relic
Cause sometimes I dash with the direction of the circle so I end getting it multiple times
orchid pike
circle attack is easy to dodge with a double dash
otherwise if u time it properly one dash is enough
dusky drum
you can try to iframe it but that takes more training than just dashing to the side twice
lime jolt
Dash exactly when it’s about to hit you
You won’t take any damage
It’s really worth learning
While you are dashing, you are invincible
split relic
you can try to iframe it but that takes more training than just dashing to the s...
I'm talking about the sweeping one
Not his spin move
ornate ravine
While you are dashing, you are invincible
specially with athena deflect
lime jolt
Sweeping move?
split relic
Like a ring that moves across the arenA
lime jolt
Yeah that’s the spin
cunning urchin
Do you mean the shockwave from the skulls and when he phases?
orchid pike
against hades u wanna dodge towards his other side when he casts/stabs
opal vortex
The dialogue you get for wearing the Hades Keepsake during dad fight is worth doing at least once. Haha
lime jolt
This is i framing @split relic
split relic
Theres A hades keepsake?
split relic
This is i framing <@407037931358912512>
?
cunning urchin
Yeah, just make sure you empty-dash.
orchid pike
*easier
dusky drum
like yea iframing is always good to learn but its a harder thing to do :/
orchid pike
like double dashing away from big aoe is such a basic skill
dusky drum
i dont even do it consistently and ive done 45 heat just with normally dodging
iframing it is better imo when youre in a pinch or doing freshfile stuff
otherwise you wont need it unless youre trying stupid high heat
like damn 50+ scares me
opal vortex
Theres A hades keepsake?
The Hades keepsake... the one that gives you the call that makes you vanish?
Sigil of the dead
dusky drum
yea you cant get it until after you hit credits and some extra stuff i think
dusky drum
ye
get to credits
then dialogue
then you get to give him nectar
its a fun trinket i just never take it :/
opal vortex
I am obsessed with getting all keepsakes fully leveled up
I am on my 75th run and I am almost there...
boreal prism
styx is apparently really good for leveling up keepsakes? i dunno i always take tooth
orchid pike
im on run 71
opal vortex
Tooth sucks. Acorn is better
boreal prism
i dont have acorn leveled up :(
opal vortex
just gatta take the plunge my man
I noticed that if you "give up" it doesn't ruin your streak. That's kinda...weird
Can anyone confirm this?
boreal prism
I've been leveling it up slowly in elysium
orchid pike
if u give up u get no rewards
dusky drum
acorn is better on bosses, tooth is better if you think you need it for the area
dusky drum
my general keepsake lineup is like god > god > acorn if high heat god trinket if im feeling funny > acorn
in order from tart to styx
opal vortex
^yeah
It kinda hamstrings me not being able to choose god keepsakes
But I have almost leveled them all up so that's nice 🙂
lime jolt
I’ve started taking tooth into elysium way more more since you never know when you could run into a room of 10 linker bowmen
opal vortex
4 of my keepsakes are lvl 2. The rest are lvl 3.
I might stop playing once they're all lvl 3. lol
slim lynx
styx is apparently really good for leveling up keepsakes? i dunno i always take ...
all 5 tunnels add up to a lot of chambers
dusky drum
lol do unseeded 64 heat then
orchid pike
all in due time my friend
magic rivet
Unseeded 64 no hit boonless speedrun on Guan Yu
lime jolt
Tbh ap2 is just boonless
magic rivet
Is fresh file RTA or not?
orchid pike
why is there no boonless heat/speedrun category
lime jolt
Is fresh file RTA or not?
It’s RTA
dusky drum
lol sub 7 rn
slim lynx
lol do unseeded 64 heat then
unseeded 64 heat 4:24 IGT
lime jolt
The spreadsheet is pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
magic rivet
Good luck getting a sub 7 on rta
opal vortex
wtf does rta stand for
slim lynx
real time attack
lime jolt
Real time attack
dusky drum
i always wondered what the a meant
good to know it means attack for some reason
igt is just in game time
like
its not igta
just kinda funny imo
opal vortex
yeah, kinda dumb IMO
lime jolt
Wait lili has them both
gusty rapids
yes
orchid pike
does dashing to continue a combo chain count as a dash strike?
lime jolt
LOL
slim lynx
does dashing to continue a combo chain count as a dash strike?
yep
it also has no i-frames which might be an issue
lime jolt
Keep in mind you do not get invincibility frames while dash striking
Ok yeah what spammy said
slim lynx
dash-striking that is
orchid pike
wut
gusty rapids
the later attacks in arthurs combo do not count as a dash strike afaik
jovial fulcrum
triple shot is pretty good 
cunning urchin
does dashing to continue a combo chain count as a dash strike?
No. Stygius's and Guan Yu's 3-hit combos don't count as Dash-Strikes regardless of whether you do a Dash inbetween.
magic rivet
triple shot is pretty good <:wario:485239731949666307>
The hammer that says, "Foes near you take +200% damage"
opal lodge
except its not additive
split relic
What do I want for crit sword?
turbid needle
I recommend using a lot of artemis boons to increase your critical chance and damage
split relic
Oki
jovial fulcrum
Explosive Return Chaos seems unfair
surreal wasp
heart rends rly good
turbid needle
heart rend is incredible
solid sable
how to unlock locked hearts and deepen relationship?
ive been giving them nectar every single time
turbid needle
story progression
surreal wasp
^
turbid needle
thats ok
turbid needle
Explosive Return Chaos seems unfair
Only gives one explosion.
surreal wasp
yeah to deepen with hades i believe you need to beat him 10 times
turbid needle
just keep going, most of them you'll unlock naturally
solid sable
yeah to deepen with hades i believe you need to beat him 10 times
10 times
turbid needle
yeah to deepen with hades i believe you need to beat him 10 times
you need ||seph|| to come back
solid sable
i want to die
turbid needle
You can actually cheese Zeus more by mashing Special really quickly.
surreal wasp
like for hermes you need to have a maxed lampent plume on you
turbid needle
so yeah 10 kills
solid sable
agh
turbid needle
you'll get there buddy
surreal wasp
you can do it
boreal prism
if a character tells you they want you to do a favor for them, then you need to do that favor for them to unlock the heart
turbid needle
I'm not certain but if you look at the hades wiki it will tell you :)
jovial fulcrum
idk, it certainly seems like its giving multiple
maybe if multiple shields return at the same time its only one explosion
turbid needle
nice man
split relic
God I'm so mad
I accidentally bought the daedalus hammer reroll at cerberrus
Instead of the artemis boon next to it
That rerolled my bow to the 300% DMG but REALLY slow cjarge
And then I died
And that's how it happened
jovial fulcrum
Anvil lyfe
true island
Huh. I just did a Lightning Rod build with Fully Loaded, on a Hera Aspect. It was interesting.
I ended up murdering Hades by “death by 1000 lightning cuts”, while hiding from him around pillars like a little ******.
One of the few times I killed him without taking damage.
true island
Lol. “Damn. I have no idea what that meant” 😄
true island
It makes your Stones emit lightning bolts on nearby enemies when they are on the ground. And Fully loaded means +5 stones.
Hera is the bow you can load stones into. Making it easier to place them wherever, or unload them quickly
true island
Yeah. That bot is lame 😦
Artemis legendary. It’s hard to get.
You need 2 of Exit Wounds, Support Fire or Pressure Points
true island
It can be if you build for it. Especially with Poseidon aspect
true island
That, or there’s a Hermes Boon that makes stones exit faster
split relic
And artemis crit attack
true island
Poseidon is a Stygian Blade aspect, so you wouldn’t be able to combine with Hera.
But Hera with Exit wounds is also nice. But you still want that Hermes Boon that makes stones drop faster
orchid pike
why is excalibur so op
turbid needle
it's not
magic rivet
It's good but hard to use properly
orchid pike
use special on boss' face, spam attack, win by pure stat check
magic rivet
Good luck with that on fo2
orchid pike
i only play with fo2
mint ibex
Excalibur is my most used aspect, because of its synergy with Athena's attack. Its special slows projectiles, which you can easily bat away and deflect with the attack
limber cloak
arthur is a pretty decent aspect tbh, especially if you build for backstabs with it
so shadow presence, with exposed from athena, chaos backstab and the shadow slash hammer
mint ibex
backstab build on Arthur hits such high numbers, its so fun
orchid pike
i use shield break on everything cuz shields suck
solid sable
backstab build on Arthur hits such high numbers, its so fun
i hit 2.8k once with it
2.8k dmg
mint ibex
Nice!
I don't remember the biggest number I've hit with excal but i definitely know I hit some big ones
orchid pike
mint ibex
Rama is awesome. A build i use is explosive shot + triple shot
It takes forever to charge with explosive though, so just barely charge and you'll still get massive damage
magic rivet
Just go Triple Shot/Double Shot and Point Blank shot
hollow wraith
how do I unlock secret aspect of spear? i've been using it all 60 hours I've played and still not unlocked it
light pine
Check the pinned in #h1-story-discussion
hollow wraith
I have to unlock 5 other aspects? wtf
valid prism
No, you have to spend 5 titan bloods on the spear aspects
hollow wraith
Ah I've done that
valid prism
Then you need to reach Hades
valid prism
And when Achilles is ready to talk to you about GY, he'll have a "!"
Maybe I'm wrong and it's actually 5 different aspects, including spear ones
As written on the pinned message
hollow wraith
Does flayed shot increase blade rift damage?
or is it just the actual thrown projectile first hit
gonna risk it
slim lynx
yeah the whole thing does more damage
very worth it but grasp is better if you're running stygian
honest wing
double strike does apply to scintillating feast right
also I have five casts lets gooooo
hollow wraith
I'm running spear, went for the flayed shot and got the legendary boon for more consecutive rift damage, just need to get lucky and find artemis duo
orchid pike
in double god rooms
which gods are pretty much free and which ones should i avoid angering at all costs?
athena is a joke
who else
hollow wraith
damnit thast was my last artemis room and I didn't get duo
honest wing
you should avoid aphro and poseidon
honest wing
guess who just got exclusive access as their last boon
turbid needle
unlucky
orchid pike
ares and zeus idk what they do
i never pick them cuz i don't wanna be unpleasantly surprised lol
honest wing
ares zeus artemis dionysus are all pretty much the same, with minor differences
orchid pike
i hate dio cuz he eventually turns the whole room into a mine field
honest wing
just dont get hit
hollow wraith
Aphro is great. 30% damage resist and 20% global damage boost with right boon
and charm
turbid needle
I meant trial rooms
hollow wraith
Ah
proven osprey
aphro is def the worst the rest is w/e to me
Never betray her
limber cloak
easiest trial is probs athena
Though she can be annoying in elysium because of the enemies regenerating
proven osprey
easiest trial is probs athena
Always betray her
proven osprey
A L W A Y S
proven osprey
Lmao
lime jolt
@midnight willow Relentless only adds 20 damage on Rama since base arrow damage is 5. It is much more worth it on Chiron, where the arrows deal more damage
split relic
Wut should I build for with zag bow?
I keep seeing ppl just speefrunning so fast with zag boe
Now*
Bow*
split relic
What channel is that
lime jolt
This one
lime jolt
No
I just wrote it yesterday for like newer players wanting to know a good basic build for any aspect
split relic
Oh oki
Also how do I unlock the hidden aspect for the bow?
And maybe the shield because I unlocked the one for the spear but I cannot seem to understand how to unlock the boat
lime jolt
Have 5 blood in the bow and talk to artemis
split relic
Ahh
I thought u talked the put 5 blood
Can I just put 4 in zag and 2 in hers?
Hera*
turbid needle
ye
turbid needle
change when?
lernies arena changes on em2
and furies change their arenas but I dont think it changes anywhere else
split relic
Oki
Also should I max out the aspects I use frequently?
Cause rn I've been trading my ambrosia for titan blood
To max my asoects
turbid needle
🤔
I'd keep some ambrosia until you can use it
because you'll need a lot for companions
but you should totally invest into the aspects you play the most
valid prism
You need to meet a specific character with the weapon during a run
If that doesn't work you need to retry because that means you didn't discuss enough with that person
split relic
Ok
limber cloak
https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/8268994451...
woah, how long did it take you to write?
lime jolt
Um a while
limber cloak
should be pinned imo, its a pretty good guide
limber cloak
i mean, so many people ask here all day "what should i build on x aspect" that its just worth to direct them to that msg
if it doesn't get pinned ill definitely save the message link
split relic
I couldn't find it but I think I remember seeing it
lime jolt
Should I ask one of the mods to pin it?
split relic
Pribably
turbid needle
asking never hurts
I wonder if its worth it to make a more detailed guide for pins tho
lime jolt
@south comet It shows that you are the only mod online and I was wondering if we could pin this message. It's a basic build guide for any new player looking for one. https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/826899445144092672
split relic
Also holy God zag bow is insane
Idk about hera insane
But very nice since I don't gotta use cast or anything
split relic
Ok
orchid pike
bow is too hard to play
if i don't consistently perfect shot my ocd brings me tilt
also i vote in favor of pinning pengu's guide
turbid needle
time to grind these bow skills
split relic
Ye
For hera I seem to do better with rapid fire tho
Since u just cast and get hermes 2-3 second drop
split relic
YOOO WTF zag bow INSANE
Just did hades on 5 heat without losing any dd
I'm so happy
turbid needle
I feel like a lot of people don't realize that 15% is the same crit rate as Artemis' Attack.
south comet
<@!156953289873686528> It shows that you are the only mod online and I was wonde...
I think we'll have to refrain on this, as we don't want to seem like there is a definitive way to experience the game. That being said, please feel free to suggest it to others if appropriate!
split relic
I can't even find it
lime jolt
Makes sense
lime jolt
split relic
Holy God that's a lot of text
lime jolt
Yeah lol
split relic
When does court music renovation become available?
Does orpheus have to write s mixtape or something first
surreal wasp
Just did hades on 5 heat without losing any dd
congrats!
split relic
Is it just me or is lernie the cutest thing in hades
split relic
Noo
fervent elbow
Lernie headbang kick me to home with 2 hits
lime jolt
Lernie headbang kick me to home with 2 hits
^
lime jolt
Asterius is the the cutest boss
lime jolt
Lernie = death
orchid pike
theseus v2 is fire
turbid needle
His shouts of despair after destroying that stupid chariot are the only thing that could fuel me through eating bombs on maxed Hard Labor.
strange lark
not rare
but you have to get certain boons to get duos
like for ME you have to get ares attack or special and athena attack or special
orchid pike
i feel like excalibur is not teaching me the best habits lol
that weapon has too much survivality
strange lark
so get it
sweet hornet
it happens, even with the mirror upgrade
strange lark
bad rng
sweet hornet
I just had a run yesterday where I didn't get ME until the very last boon in styx
and even then I had to choose between it and Deadly Reversal
was somewhat mad about it
split relic
Oof
Ye
Hopefully charon in styx has 3 athena boosn
Duo can drop from athena or ares right?
lime jolt
yep
sweet hornet
can you afford to upgrade to 5?
silver summit
beowulf not sure
orchid pike
i dont play anything unless its lvl 5
silver summit
guan yu is never good unless at level 5, yes
silver summit
don't forget they all have alternate movesets
people often just focus on special as it's good, but i personally do enjoy getting quick spin and spamming it, as it also heals you for 1/hit
sweet hornet
I'd just try them out one by one to see if I liked the move sets
if you quit the game without leaving the room first it won't get saved
the timing on rama is a pain if you're used to the regular bow
silver summit
i don't often use perfect shot but i still managed to use it
like, without using power shot
sweet hornet
rama bow with flurry shot would be so OP
silver summit
that's why it can't exist
i think
sweet hornet
I really like zag and hera with flurry
sweet hornet
you can play rama focusing on special but it might need some of the specific hammer upgrades
sweet hornet
guan yu special-only builds are also fun
proven osprey
Good idea
cunning urchin
April Challenge
FOOL'S CHALLENGE
“....”—Bouldy
“You're even more of a fool than I already thought.”—Megaera
“Well! Look who's back. The god of trash, himself.”—Alecto
“Mmurdererr!”—Tisiphone
“Hsss!”—Lernie
“Your foolish attempts shall get you nowhere!”—King Theseus
“I warned you, short one.”—Asterius
“You idiot.”—Lord Hades
Conditions:
Heat: 63
God Mode is not allowed.
Take a screenshot of the chamber number whenever you enter a new chamber! (You can open your boon menu to show the chamber number in the upper right corner.) How far can you make it? Do as many attempts as you like. Your best attempt counts!
Extra Challenge:
“Not again!”—Zagreus
Heat: 64
You can submit your runs here. A screenshot or video is required: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QH4Vq8PIo54cjgm_lem9xqrnLbd8nFRT4nOiYcZl5m4/edit?usp=sharing
If you wish to be notified of any new <@&737365219982049411>, type ?rank Hades Monthly Challenge in #bot-commands.
Challenge poster: https://i.imgur.com/HqDlvnf.png
dusky drum
63 heal lmao
hybrid fractal
oh this is gonna be fun
vagrant maple
👀
pseudo lark
63 heat
monkaS
dusky drum
lol just wait 64 heat is gonna be beaten now
gleaming current
This challenge makes me pensive
vagrant maple
tailesque about to clear max heat
main osprey
This challenge makes me pensive
😔
halcyon lynx
Yeah
valid dagger
welp
pale kayak
I beat 32 Heat, I think that's ENOUGH for me, thank you. hahah
gleaming current
You can always beat like 3 rooms and be cool with that, at least 
main osprey
How far can you make it? Do as many attempts as you like. Your best attempt counts!
cunning urchin
Just do your best.
queen cape
might be time for a 64 heat charon redux
cunning urchin
Good luck!
vivid mauve
cunning urchin
Hey, you might make it to Elysium!
dry ember
what if I beat it
calm saddle
turbid needle
Easiest challenge yet smh
patent raven
I’m going to SUPER die.
opal lodge
tooth gaming incorporated
unkempt pagoda
how is this even a challenge 
terse mist
im not even going to make it to megaera
turbid needle
I beat 63 heat on my first ever run guys this is so easy
hoary trail
Jesus. I play on switch so I can't upload pics, but I'm gonna give this a good go
Sounds fun
But way above my pay grade
Maybe 10 chambers?
Lol
I stand no chance
cunning urchin
If you check your gallery after taking a screenshot on Switch, there's apparently a QR code that you can scan to download it to your phone.
hoary trail
I beat 63 heat on my first ever run guys this is so easy
Yeah yeah.
hoary trail
If you check your gallery after taking a screenshot on Switch, there's apparentl...
Yes, but it's such a faf and I've never got it to work
And apparently you have to do it for each pic/vid, so it would take ages
turbid needle
You could just take a photo on your phone
cunning urchin
Well, you only need to do it for your farthest chamber.
hoary trail
I'll just tell you guys later and j won't lie. I won't do the proper upload
cunning urchin
Yeah, take a photo of your screenshot. That works, too.
cunning urchin
Good luck!
turbid needle
If you don't escape you instantly get banned