I find like the bow is the most "op" weapon with the right boons
#h1-builds-and-combat
naive acorn
shadow oak
yeah crazy how curse words lose meaning and become colloquial expressions
forest marsh
I've used spear throw a bit, but I also haven't found it to be that fun. There are some here who enjoy it though
naive acorn
its more easier to kite and use the boost damage of the dash
elfin maple
if we are already talking about the spear throw anyone ever try a spear throw build lol
worn dawn
Bow is still my least fav
Since it has least clicking
I tried spear throw build a couple runs ago
worn dawn
Beat hydra but only because I gave up on it and just attacked things anyway
forest marsh
I like bow 'cause you get into a nice rhythm of dash-power shot
shadow oak
and do not stop clicking and mashing space until everything is dead
worn dawn
Yes that sword buff is my fav
It + Zeus boon is just so shenanigans
Or Athena buff for immortality
elfin maple
what are these upgrades named again? might try this out next time
forest marsh
I don't think they will do it (and maybe it was already in feedback, I'd have to check), but I wish there was a parry mechanic like in Bastion
Exclusive of Deflect
elfin maple
maybe a new weapon will have a parry mechanic who knows
forest marsh
I think they're talking about having Flurry Blade (Hammer) and then either Lightning Strike (Zeus) or Divine Strike (Athena)
naive acorn
power shot with the bow are so satisfying, you got a kind of rythme 'dash shot dash'
forest marsh
It's very satisfying
naive acorn
i fill like the other weapon you're just smashing your button
pastel jolt
flurry blade with lightning strike is satisfying only when enemies are clustered up
elfin maple
@forest marsh thx!:)
pastel jolt
i finally got that combo and....... i ended up using my cast more because that did more damage
π
forest marsh
Unless you also have Athena's Support Fire boon, then it's nuts
naive acorn
when your cast deals more than your basic attack π
I just had the 3 shoots upgrade, artemis crit dash and athena support fire + attack deflect and damage
on my last run
And 200-250% damage on armor
forest marsh
That's a recipe for success right there
naive acorn
I was too op, not even funny, i killed the hydra soooo fast
It could be nice to implant a challenge mode where you can choose with what boons you start (without any items in the run) to speedrun
could be fun
forest marsh
I think they turned that idea down? 
Would be interesting, though
elfin maple
wouldn't that be too easy though? as you could just set up a op build from the start
forest marsh
If they did it like a draft mode, that might be more fair than just picking
Or have daily challenges with a draft, like the StS draft mode
naive acorn
it wouldn't be "saved" in your success run and you wont get any items in it
It's pretty much a speedrun mode, because actually, it's too much random
elfin maple
well that could be fun
naive acorn
and It could be fun to compete with friends or others
elfin maple
a game mode where you get certain boons from the start could be interesting too they could make some weird and crazy combinations and you would have to try to get a full run with a totally weird build lol
naive acorn
I don't think they'll do it until the final release tho, they got much to do on the "initial" mode
Yeah you could easily make a speedrun mode where you chose your starters, and a challenge mode where the "starters" changes every week and there is a leaderboard
forest marsh
I think challenges like that would be best suited to a challenge arena and not the regular run progression. Like how Bastion had the challenge/survival arenas
elfin maple
yeah true
naive acorn
yeah ofc, it shouldn't be in the "history" mode
forest marsh
I don't mean in the story mode necessarily, I just mean it shouldn't follow the same run route as the story. That is, Tartarus > Meg > Asphodel > Hydra
naive acorn
im kinda curious about the history, everytime i come back i try to open the door in hope that they'll open π¦ haha
forest marsh
It would be it's own thing, maybe even just a single room/arena
naive acorn
Oh, idk, at first I think it's easier to release a first version with the same path as the story mode
Well, gotta go, bye bye π
forest marsh
Take care, Nilsfram!
forest marsh
We have no way of knowing, though UNOvven is convinced about their theory having to do with representations of the 6 Elder gods. It's just a bunch of guessing on our parts at this point
I can tell you what I'd want to see, though
Which is 1) Whip, 2) Cestus
elfin maple
yeah just wanted to know what you'd want to see π never thought of a whip sounds really fitting for the game tho and I personally also would love there to be a cestus! I'd love to see something like an Axe or a Hammer which attacks really slow but deals some massive damage
forest marsh
UNOvven's theory, if you're curious, is that the remaining 2 weapons are a scythe and Greek Fire
elfin maple
well a scythe would be cool too but how would the greek fire look as a weapon ?π€
forest marsh
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
Bombs, maybe
I don't share their conviction about the provenance of the weapons, but only time will tell
pastel jolt
i feel like a magic-based weapon of some kind is likely
elfin maple
maybe the fire as like a staff which has fire magic if we go by the theory?
forest marsh
Hmmmm... that would be interesting, sparrow... Not sure how it'd play into the mythology
pastel jolt
well, technically none of the current weapons play into it either (except for the shield)
forest marsh
My impression of "magic" in Greek mythology isn't so much as an offensive weapon type thing (barring Zeus' lightning), but I'm no historian
That's fair (re: current weapons)
elfin maple
well manipulation of the elements isn't something completely unheard of and in the game it has kinda been potrayed as something like magic(zeus boon gives you eletric attacks etc)
well we will see maybe we'll get a new weapon in the update who knows
frosty pier
Aaargh why is it dropping midweek
forest marsh
FalconRifle
verbal roost
when is the update coming
forest marsh
15th
forest marsh
frosty pier
saaame
frosty pier
Well potentialy... If you will add some timezones magic into the mix
forest marsh
Very likely the 16th for people far enough overseas from San Francisco
pastel jolt
god, wight, don't even say that, i'm Fear
although then it would be even more of a birthday present for me
drifting hemlock
I mean if you work that day, you could just quit your job, then you dont have work
forest marsh
Oh, is it your birfday on the 16th, Sparrow?
frosty pier
Hmm... -8 hours for me. MEHHHHHHHH 
frosty pier
-_-'
merry wolf
who is the keepsake between dusa and hypnos? thats the only one i dont have yet
forest marsh
I can't say I have them all memorized. Do you have a screenshot? I could probably tell you off of that, otherwise I'd have to open the game. I'm sure someone else knows/has the game already open though
frosty pier
Dusa s a 2% surprise shwarma from pots
forest marsh
I want to say maybe it's Meg from memory... But I don't remember the order in the menu
frosty pier
Hypnos lets you save up to 200 gold from previous run
merry wolf
oh right it probably is, the only time she shows up for me is when she has a conversation so i cant talk to her q_q
forest marsh
Hope you didn't have to be up early
frosty pier
Naah it's sunday so it's okay, cycle took a big hit tho
forest marsh
Alright, I gotta go make dinner. Talk to you all in a while 
woeful stirrup
The order the keepsakes are in troubles me a lot.
pastel jolt
it's alphabetical based on who gives them
woeful stirrup
I first thought it was alphabetical order, but Meg and Sysiphus aren't placed correctly.
woeful stirrup
Either put it in alphabetical order or sort them by character categories (Olympian Gods, etc.), dangit 
forest marsh
Is it alphabetical based on their name in the game files?
pastel jolt
no because then meg would be way off from where she actually is
woeful stirrup
True, if she's called FurySister like in the files, it would make sense.
What about Sysiphus, though? What name would put him between Orpheus and Poseidon?
undone bone
Hey, for what it's worth the Keepsakes will be rearranged in the next update. The order may still not be obvious though hopefully it'll feel a bit more intuitive.
We may keep rearranging over time as we add more, and the screen itself may evolve as well.
pastel jolt
i'm going to accidentally select the wrong keepsake so many times and i can't wait
grand patrol
(opens hades again) DUSA DID YOU GO THROUGH MY JEWELRY BOX
grand patrol
dusa momd.....
pastel jolt
i tidied up!!!! NO I HAD EVERYTHING RIGHT,
grand patrol
dusa drank that momegranate juice
errant narwhal
shocked and upset there is no pomegranate emoji
hard holly
That should be a challenge mode
Keepsakes are randomized and you have 1 second to select
grand patrol
keepsakes are hidden and you have to use your memory
frosty pier
Or dont and just let the Gods take a wheel
frosty pier
Pfffff nonononnononon non non! That is the best choice you'll ever have.
It's not about geting your carriage into lava, it;s about HOW MUCH FUN YOU HAD DOING IT
forest marsh
Sure there is, see alma? 
forest marsh
True...
It would be nice to have some more official Hades emotes
It's still early days though, so we shall see...
somber epoch
who needs anything more than 
forest marsh
frosty pier
we need MORE POWER
somber epoch
meg's alright
errant narwhal
excuse u, the shades are wonderful
forest marsh
We just really need our Meg's Day Off emote as per alma's lovely drawing
pastel jolt
hard holly
Nah, we need an alternate reality story where Meg snaps and takes over the house of hades, and plans to take over the world
We could call it Megalomania
forest marsh
I am here for this
drifting hemlock
Has anything been confirmed for the update yet or is everything spoopy unknown?
forest marsh
Nothing has been confirmed, but we know a fair bit about the sort of things they're planning to address based on the user feedback channel. I made a list!
somber epoch
we need pet doggo
drifting hemlock
Awesome thanks!
drifting hemlock
In case they add a new level, I wonder if they are going to reset current runs or you can start farming for a strong ass build and then dont kill the hydra until the patch drops and then pummel through
oh and woooo! Mirror is maxed! 54 runs!
forest marsh
They've said they'll try not to have us lose progress, so I guess we'll see
drifting hemlock
I suppose that would mainly mean mirror upgrades and codex
but yeah i ugess we'll see
cold cave
hmmm any tips for the boat?
drifting hemlock
Stay alive, dont die!
cold cave
ok thanks
drifting hemlock
Really comes down to your build
pastel jolt
before the enemies start spawning in, destroy the urns
woeful stirrup
Dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash dash
pastel jolt
things get hectic enough without those things going off unexpectedly
cold cave
yeah i always destroy the urns
woeful stirrup
And yeah, destroy the urns in advance, they do too little damage to be useful to you and they're dangerous.
glossy slate
Move in circles around the outside, the center of the boat is where you go to die
pastel jolt
you absolutely need to prioritise the voidstones, btw, there's not enough room to outrange them like you usually can
woeful stirrup
Athena dash is really useful on that one, 'cause you'll throw the bombs back to their sender.
drifting hemlock
I usually run all the way to one side until every enemy is near you, then triple dash to the other side just before they hit you, then deal with the blue boys, rinse and repeat
btw i just had a run with 3 shots, all 3 times the options were health, ambrosia and a kebab....
cold cave
dash through the middle or around the sides
drifting hemlock
Actually you should always do what feels best for you, if X suits me best but Y is best for you, you shouldnt go with what i do
Depends when you jump, if you jump too early into a skeleton attack they will switch directions and hit you in your dash
Not sure if i should farm more items or let my current run stay before the hydra and see if i can get a headstart on the update if they add another level
drifting hemlock
Are you in a run right now Duck ?
cold cave
nah i just died to the hydra
forest marsh
Specific advice for Hydra kind of depends on your boon build and weapon choice, but in general you want to stay out of the middle area, avoid/kite the projectiles, and focus on killing heads on one side of the map to make a safe zone before clearing the rest
drifting hemlock
Tips would be easier if i had a build to tip from
cold cave
lv4 athena attack, epic zeus cast, 130% range on spear, epic artemis dash
is what i had last time
im not really sure what to build for
drifting hemlock
Do a run, tab out whenever you're at a boon choice and we could give advice π
But mainly you focus 1 thing, your Attack, your cast or your special, and special isn't really a thing people do too much i think, at least i dont
cold cave
alright
drifting hemlock
And artemis attack isn't really good, you are better off getting her dash crits and then pair it with another gods attack since they give more damage
drifting hemlock
Yeah
Also if you want an easy win, go with artemis boon and focus her cast, if you get 2-3 artemis boons you're set, and poms should always go into true shot
im feeling i have pretty consistent runs doing that
woeful stirrup
True shot+Quick Reload makes the Hydra ridiculously easy. With a few poms in True shot, you kill the heads with 4 or fewer casts (so you don't even need to wait for them to come out), and the Quick Reload is more for the big head and for the actual run before the Hydra.
drifting hemlock
Small heads got 1200 health, so if you can get a build to handle that fast you're good
woeful stirrup
Well, I'm exaggerating a bit, since I also had a Braid of Atlas. Those things really help.
I did 460 damage per cast.
cold cave
a braid of atlas?
woeful stirrup
+60% cast damage
forest marsh
It's an item from the Well of Charon
drifting hemlock
Had a 320 damage true shot earlier, the 4 shots is enough to kill a head
cold cave
oh
drifting hemlock
without braid
My strongest build ever has been a 300+ dmg true shot with 20% crit chance, 1.9 sec drop rate and a burst shot, wish i could have continued with that π¦
woeful stirrup
That's a good build. I've never been this lucky. That's a lot of poms.
drifting hemlock
crit chance, drop rate and burst shot were all level 1 and true shot was level 4 or 5
so not an insane amount of poms
But luck on getting epics
cold cave
gonna try an artemis cast build now
drifting hemlock
Nice!
Extra ammo is stronger than burst shot and if you get the "drop shards faster" thing pick it, its a godsend
and just beef out the true shot
with poms
toxic acorn
i've been running into a thing where attacks with the spear that hit 2 enemies will only crit 1
i guess it might not be a bug, but it's kinda frustrating
if i had to guess what happens it'd be that the close/far attacks that do different damage each roll for crits separately?
idk
forest marsh
This build is what I might call a clown fiesta https://imgur.com/a/bBrhk2G
Interestingly, Ares legendary doesn't function in this build
Maybe I should submit that as a bug report
Probably going to die to the Hydra because there is very little synergy in all these boons π
Well, it was a fun goofy build while it lasted. I made it from the starting room to the Hydra using almost exclusively Blade Dash
turbid needle
Did you win ?
forest marsh
No, only got about 2/3 through the Hydra. I didn't expect to win, honestly π
I just wanted to see how far Blade Dash would take me
Interestingly, despite saying 16 damage in that picture, the Blade Rifts only actually were doing 15 dmg/tick
It was fun dropping rifts on top of spawning enemies and watching them melt before I could even tell what they were, though
cold cave
jesus christ the stunlock on hydra's bullets is ridiculous
forest marsh
Yup... Learning to avoid them is a good idea. Either stay out of the middle, or else go behind the Hydra's head and dash back and forth so the shots always go the wrong way and die out on the terrain
glossy slate
I feel your pain
cold cave
i feel like it might be a little bit unbalanced
im trying to avoid them but i cant get behind cover in time
glossy slate
Eventually you absorb so many bullets that you get a 6th sense for dodging them
forest marsh
It's one of the things that will probably be addressed in the upcoming patch (stunlock)
hard topaz
a small tip i found for the hydra projectiles is that there's a little nook in the walls that you can stand in and you wont have to move, either the bullets hit the wall or they curve around and their trajectory is too wide and they miss you
cold cave
then i eat 30 damage
hard topaz
its not too hard to get a feel for where it is and it makes the projectiles a lot easier for me
cold cave
yeah im trying to get in there
glossy slate
Basically if his head pulls back to the far wall, start running
hard topaz
mhm
glossy slate
Predict and dodge early, he broadcasts hard
cold cave
yeah
hard topaz
i guess another strat is that im p sure they dont actually have a hitbox until they start firing, so if you stand directly to the side of him then immediately dash to the other side when he starts shooting all of them will miss u
cold cave
that helped a little bit but i went to grab my casts + dashed away as soon as i could then died in the lava so :) rip
glossy slate
If youβre already behind a wall when it starts firing then you can dash through the hole in the center for a ton of free hits
cold cave
i got to the 4 heads but i only saw 2 before i died
hard topaz
nandato
forest marsh
5th Hydra down! Nothing very exciting about my build, though π Almost have all my hearts filled too... Just gotta work on collected Darkness at this point
forest marsh
Oh, nice!
I don't mind the boat most times, unless my build is very poor
I'm not a great player, but I've learned the art of kiting enemies safely around the tiny murderboat
cold cave
and i have lv5 epic artemis cast, which is 299 damage, but not the boon that makes enemies drop bloodstones quicker
forest marsh
Aw dang
cold cave
so oof
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390717417287843870/533901409515732993/Hades_2019-01-13_12-53-07_AM.png kinda unlucky boons but i might be able to get a little farther this time
i couldve gotten lv7 true shot if the game didnt curse me with 2 aphrodite boons π
forest marsh
Curse you, RNG gods
cyan pollen
Orpheus Deal up to 120% damage to distant foes. - dose anyone know how far is "distant" π ?
cold cave
curse of agony is actually pretty ok though
cyan pollen
dose it work with pulling back the spear ?
forest marsh
Not sure
You could test it with Skelly though
Just equip it, test close damage, then try it far away
See if you get a different number and how far it has to be
cyan pollen
Ah, Skelly ! - ofc waw im slow I shold sleep a bit π
I was restarting runs testing stuff .. dumb me
forest marsh
I like to do barebones testing... That's why I use Skelly 
woeful stirrup
I must be cursed. Got 7 Athena boons on this run, Brilliant Riposte being my third. The game never gave me the Legendary 
cold cave
nice, i can never get more than 2 boons from the same god
cyan pollen
is it random if you get a boon or an shard/key?
cold cave
you can tell what youre gonna get by looking at the door of the room before you go in
forest marsh
Yes, it's random
cold cave
what those doors are going to be are random though as far as i can tell
forest marsh
Unless you're using a god's keepsake, in which case that god will be the first one you come across
cyan pollen
what I mean is can you get 3 rooms in a row key/shard option
forest marsh
Yes
woeful stirrup
I can guarantee you going with 7 Athena boons is useless against the Hydra. Can't deflect the pink projectiles, deflecting the bloodless spawners will just put them out of reach if you don't destroy them in one hit.
And to top it off, the auto-aim for the bow kept making me attack the main head when it was impervious instead of the small heads.
cold cave
oh for sure
woeful stirrup
Also, is it normal during the second phase to have 3 heads on one side and 1 on the other side? First time it's happened to me, got quite surprised being surrounded by three freaking heads 
cold cave
youd have to be really lucky to be that unlucky
woeful stirrup
I am the king of unluck.
cold cave
also, theres bloodless spawners?
forest marsh
Yes, the green heads
cold cave
ohh
forest marsh
They spit out red eggs with a countdown timer on them, when the timer expires a Bloodless is spawned unless you kill the egg first
They only have like 50hp on the eggs, though
cold cave
oh i didnt know there was eggs
forest marsh
I call them eggs, I don't know what they actually are Β―_(γ)_/Β―
woeful stirrup
In Starbound, you have a 5% chance of getting an action figure when defeating a boss. The first boss can't be dealt with rapidly no matter your DPS because you need to toggle switches to attack it. It took me 70 tries to get the figure. There's also various examples of me having to fight only ships with missile weapons on sector 1 in Faster than Light, or finding the water bottle, matchstick and windmill when I'm using a lightning-based build in Wizard of Legend. If there's some kind of RNG to a game, I can guarantee I'll get screwed.
cold cave
well whatever they are i didnt know they existed
forest marsh
There are 3 head types, the spawners, the slammers, and the lava bombers
woeful stirrup
Athena dash doesn't do enough damage to destroy the eggs. And using it to dodge the head bites made me throw the eggs on the other side of the walls.
turbid stag
just finished my first run getting Artemis's Burst shot (and upgraded to lvl 3)
easy mode
cold cave
and once again hydra's stunlock completely ruins a run
turbid stag
so if I have enough darkness to get either +50% Rare boon chance or +25% Epic Boon chance but not both, which is more likely to be better to use while leveling the other?
forest marsh
I went with Epic, but I don't know if that's better
woeful stirrup
I'd say rare is better. Lowers your chance of getting common much more than epic. imo, it's better to get several rare when picking a boon than a single epic and two commons... because the epic one might not be the one you want (oh, great, epic "lower damage from traps", thank you Athena!)
forest marsh
That's fair
stuck fable
Bring abck blood drinkier next patch XD
cold cave
feedback belongs in #hades-feedback
lost rose
hades feedback is closed right now
lost rose
i think they're referencing life drinker?
it got nerfed out of existence because it was too broken for a rebalance
cold cave
so what are the odds ssg is gonna read this chat and think "oh, we should bring it back next patch"
lost rose
they took it offline for as long as it takes them to rework it or come up with something new and similar
cold cave
and i dont know what life drinker is either
lost rose
it was a daedalus hammer upgrade for the sword that allowed you to get health back from breaking things
it was understandably pretty broken
cold cave
oh damn
lost rose
so it was taken out until SGG could either rework it entirely or come up with something similar but more balanced to replace it
cold cave
yeah
empty canopy
i'm just wondering hopw they will deal with excess darkness/keys/ambrosia
cyan pollen
visual aproximation of what distant and nearby is for anyone curious ... https://imgur.com/a/XfN4iku
keen tangle
is it color coded or are the lines supposed to indicate what is close/distant
cold cave
its color coded
cyan pollen
yea green is nearby and red is distant
stray radish
it's probably not colorblind friendly color coded
cyan pollen
xD
keen tangle
oh yeah i'm colorblind
stray radish
rip
and either you mixed up the colors or i can't read this visual aid, it looks like it's reversed? xD
cold cave
still reversed colors lol
stray radish
yeah the yellow doesnt look nearby xD
cyan pollen
if you are in the yello zone nearby modifiyer applyees, if you are in the blue it is distant
merry nymph
RUN NUMBER 63 AND I FINALLY GOT THAT HYDRA
merry nymph
I've seen it once or twice
Not more\\
Don't even remember the effect, tchie
One was from Zeus iirc
I've tried to play with different weapons, but the bow is my favourite
lost rose
same!! i've always been a bow person though, haha
hades doesn't let me snipe like a lot of games do
but that's alright, i'll take the inherent piercing on basic attacks as compensation, lol
merry nymph
Powershots are cool
lost rose
yeah!! it's a mechanic they've had around for a while
bastion and pyre had similar stuff going on
merry nymph
Also, Dusa told me Hades was the only employer who hired her despite the lack of body
That was hilarious
lost rose
i can't imagine hell has a thriving job market...
merry nymph
Fair enough\\
I wonder if giving an ambrosia bottle to a mirror will affect Zagreus and he'll get drunk
I mean... Drinking with your reflection doesn't count as drinking alone, right?
lost rose
ha!
i know we all joke about the ambrosia being alcohol but i'm not sure that's actually implied, that one convo with achilles he was probably drinking something else...hades has all those wine cellars, after all
merry nymph
True
lost rose
pomegranate wine.........i guess.
or maybe it's wine from sacrifices π€
merry nymph
Also that convo with Orpheus
About "if you've been told not turning back then freaking don't, fool"
Or smth like that ~~
lost rose
oh yeah, i...vaguely remember that
drifting hemlock
Remember theres a tier ladder to go through to get legendaries, ones you got the required tier 1 and tier 2 boon theres a 30+% chance of the legendary popping up next
pastel jolt
i got so lucky with poms on this run and so unlucky with health ;n;
done it
the best part is, it was the zeus dash that actually did the last hit.....
frosty pier
Nice
frozen locust
What are teir 1 and 2 boons? U mean if u unlock 2
Epic boons u can get a legendary
strong hornet
tier 1 is the boons that will show up first of a god a tier 2 is a boon that can only be gotten after a spesific tier 1. and legendary might require a mix between tier 1 and 2 to be avaible depending on the god
tiny snow
hi. iΒ΄m new. iΒ΄m searching for a multiplayer, Β΄cause i like dungeon crawler games and i have a friend who likes dungeon crawler too. i want to play with him. is that possible? or is this coming at a later date?
strong hornet
@tiny snow check the info page here on discord. Short answer no to both
tiny snow
oh. thank you
drifting hemlock
https://hades.gamepedia.com/ Artemis
Check this page out, you can see what is tier 1 and 2, at the bottom you can see what specific boons you need to unlock the legendary
oops i made a space somehow
but nice build sparrow, having a cast build that deals 1200 dmg per salvo is pretty much a guaranteed win
drifting hemlock
I hope they make is possible to get Oceans Bounty as your very first boon
pastel jolt
i think it prioritises the attack/cast/special/dash boons first, bc whenever i've gotten a boon as the first item it's always been a selection of those three
drifting hemlock
It does and thats fine at first
but once you reach late game it's all about grinding resources
at that point you'd prefer being weaker by character because you're a stronger player and then getting the increased rewards in
analog crystal
Oceans bounty is tier 1, so surely once you've already got 2 of the "base" boons you can get it as your first poseidon boon?
pastel jolt
but not as your very first boon in a run
analog crystal
Oh i see, I was mistaken as lizzy said late game but he wants to grind the whole run
drifting hemlock
She? ...
drifting hemlock
Haha it's okay, My grandma is called lizzy and our last name is similar to that, so my nick quickly became lizz or lizzy even tho im a dude xD
but yeah its a female name π
BUT I CAN NEVER FORGIVE YOU! TO HADES YOU GO!
drifting hemlock
Unbanished! No dogo for you!
analog crystal
THATS WORSE WAIT
stray radish
oof
errant narwhal
please be respectful towards peopleβs identities @drifting hemlock
stray radish
...u can just always use 'they'
drifting hemlock
It wasnt meant like that @errant narwhal
stray radish
no need to assume when u go with neutral \o/
errant narwhal
itβs how it came off, so please keep that in mind
forest marsh
Yeah, I default to they unless I know otherwise
drifting hemlock
Why is your "they" in a little box?
grand patrol
its a way of quoting things
hard holly
Right, because proper quote unquote is often used sarcastically
forest marsh
I also just like using Discord's markdown features where I can π
pastel jolt
~~strike~~
worn dawn
It causes unending problems for me since I like to trail of my messages with tildes
hard holly
I lean quite heavily into it for puns in fact
analog crystal
My question is do you use _ or *
Cus I use *
ANd literally just found out _ does it as well lol
hard holly
This works?
analog crystal
YE
hard holly
Oh wow
worn dawn
Spooky
analog crystal
I thought strike through would be _ hence why I wrote that in cursive hahaha
pastel jolt
guys
worn dawn
This is def getting off topic tho
pastel jolt
yeah it is
analog crystal
So what's your least favourite enemy to fight against
hard holly
Louts
analog crystal
Armoured louts sammeee
hard holly
Them having armour shouldnt be a-lout
hard holly
Nah, I dont mind bloodless
errant narwhal
oh yeah
analog crystal
I got used to bloodless
hard holly
Theyre easy now tbh
pastel jolt
"i'm gonna charge this way! no, wait, i changed my mind, i'm going to pivot 180 and aim for your eyeballs instead"
errant narwhal
They always hit me even when I dodge
analog crystal
I always feel more dumb when i take lout damage
errant narwhal
Canβt get their timing right
worn dawn
Louts are also my least fav
analog crystal
It's cus they can turn when you dash by them
So if you see them prepping you will take damage if you dash near them
forest marsh
My least favourite are triple stacked Elite Skullomats when I have no AoE to speak of and there are Voidstones floating around 
hard holly
Eh, thats just an exercise in patience
analog crystal
I also hate the throwing jumping skelibombers just cus theyre easy to beat but at some point I will take damage from their death bombs
forest marsh
Inferno Bombers are annoying, but also just require patience. Doesn't make it fun, though!
pastel jolt
all i want is for their bombs to have a radius indicator
hard holly
I want a boon where we spawn bombs everytime we death defy
analog crystal
Lmaooo, full revenge build
forest marsh
What about a bomb-dash? Like in... God, what's the game I'm thinking of
forest marsh
Maybe, but I don't think I was thinking of Transistor
analog crystal
I need to play transistor again, I love the customisation in that game
patent lodge
I kind of like the lack of customization in this game
worn dawn
Okay, gonna try out the dash attack build on sword
forest marsh
I not a fan of dash attack on sword, but maybe that's just me
hard holly
In my opinion it doesnt work great since the roguelike hook of "what do I get this run" doesnt really work out since its all too similiar, but Ive talked at length about my thoughts, so
The hammerupgrade isnt great, yeah
It does free up a dash boon, but its damage is so-so and its clunky
forest marsh
I feel like 10 damage on the dash-attack with sword (base) is just too low to be useful even with %dmg boons
worn dawn
Iβm trying to make the double hit work with Zeus attack
hard holly
Isnt it 20?
forest marsh
I thought it was 10, but it's entirely possible I'm wrong
hard holly
Im not sure either
forest marsh
Maybe 20 with QT?
frosty pier
20 with qt
forest marsh
Which still makes it 10 base, so we're both (kind of) right?
frosty pier
I just like how on a worldsplitter you still can hit for 20...
forest marsh
Yeah, I don't know if they'll fix that or not
It would make it a lot more usable if they did, though
It feels like it's unintentional, but Β―_(γ)_/Β―
frosty pier
I just love how it still can be a thing, and I had a perfect moment then my friend got shot down on last-hit hydra.
autumn tapir
it'd be nice if we could use keys to reroll a room's rewards once
forest marsh
It seems they have something in mind for extra resources in the update, so we'll have to wait and see
woeful stirrup
So, just learned 2 things:
- can't give Ambrosia to gods in Charon's shop, that was my first Zeus encounter in 14 runs and I couldn't get his keepsake
- ball of yarn does not apply to boons in Charon's shop
- my unluck is still there, got a pretty good sword special build... or at least it would be good if I had gotten more than 1 rare boon out of now 6 boons picked up... the only rare boon I have is Ocean's Bounty (could have also gotten , I have not seen any other boon above common except for an epic Sunken Treasure
forest marsh
Dang, that's some bad luck indeed!
I had a run yesterday where I had two Yarn of Ariadne and didn't find another boon before the run finished π
woeful stirrup
Well, that shop was the last before the Hydra, so the yarn was useless too. Just lost before its last phase.
frosty pier
Feelsbadman
woeful stirrup
34 runs and I have not seen any Legendary boon 
forest marsh
I'm not sure when I saw my first one... It shouldn't be run dependent though, it's just a matter of having the prereqs
It's not uncommon to have 1 or 2 Legendary boons by the time you hit Hydra if you have a large overall number of boons
If your run is low on boons though, then your chances will be low as well
pastel jolt
the only time i've gotten a legendary boon, i got two in the same trial of the gods
frosty pier
I'm honeslty on the fence about legendaries, They maybe cool, but I dont like how you can get bloated with boons that you dont like just for that golden thingy
forest marsh
I'd honestly rather have less boons (that I want) and more Poms than have a bunch of boons that don't work together
woeful stirrup
Not fond of starting with a boon and then getting 3 poms in a row, though. My common tidal dash is now level 4 
frosty pier
If you picked a common anyway, why dash?
woeful stirrup
Because I'd rather have a rare or epic later for my attack or special than be stuck with a common.
drifting hemlock
Anyone not liking the sword with dash crit, start a sword run and pray you get dash crit, a high percentage athena attack and world splitter, you'll one shot everyone
frosty pier
Well yeah, but given the situation, you could turn that common attack to a decent level. Hope is a nice thing, but it's better to have hope and something that can work on its own.
woeful stirrup
And that dash can work on its own, until Meg. So I have until Meg to get something else. If I don't actually get another boon for either my cast, attack or special in the whole of Tartarus, well, it's not like a common Poseidon attack would have helped. Especially since it is completely useless against bosses.
frosty pier
It still gives numbers, and better have them on attacks or special rather than turning your escape option into a questionable attack (wich sometimes knock people away so they can hit you anyway). It is all about RNG in the end and if you got nothing you will have to do what can with what you got.
frosty pier
Ow a bow... Yeah that changes things a bit
woeful stirrup
What to do when your cast doesn't do enough damage to kill a small Hydra head? GET MOAR OF THEM
First time seeing the common version of Quick Reload, too. Damn that makes a huge difference with the epic one.
frosty pier
QR still makes huge difference
woeful stirrup
It does. But when you're used to it being at 2s or even better, 1.76s, they seem to take forever to drop π
frosty pier
With time i got used to sit behind that wall waiting for my shots to come back, I like that wall we are like a soldier and a trench.
candid spire
just killed the hydra with bow aswell
easy peasy.
600dmg powershot when distant
forest marsh
Looks like pretty hefty damage
Can't imagine the Hunter Dash works well with Steady Shot though
candid spire
it shortens the charge a bit, you can still make it crit
forest marsh
15th
candid spire
day after
forest marsh
still pewter
π
forest marsh
Greg popped in to #h1-discussion and said the update would likely roll out mid-day local time
Or about 48 hours from now, give or take
candid spire
π€
analog crystal
Is finding Charon's wells a chance thing or are you guaranteed one every set number of rooms
Because I've heard that the bone hourglass is a good keepsake but idk if it's just my luck but I haven't had a single time where i'd prefer it over something that'd actually do something
forest marsh
Chance as far as I know
I usually only go for Bone Hourglass after Meg, and only if there's something good in the Well of Charon in the interstitial hall
analog crystal
I might just only pick it up in the hall, buy something and then equip earring if it doesn't work out in my next few runs haha
woeful stirrup
Same as wight, I sometimes get it in Asphodel in case I get a Braid of Atlas for my cast build or other such things.
forest marsh
I would say that Bone Hourglass has the highest potential of any keepsake to drastically improve your run, but it's quite circumstantial
woeful stirrup
Yeah. I usually just pick up Cerberus' keepsake for Asphodel. Or sometimes a god's keepsake if I know I want something. Like, when I got the Poseidon epic cast, I took the arrowhead in hopes of getting the Quick Reload.
analog crystal
I would imagine that with luck it's insane with 6 turn 20 heal when you leave rooms and the jerky and even eye of lamia
forest marsh
Yeah
woeful stirrup
There's only been a few times the Hourglass would have been useful for me. But when it is, oh my.
I've seen a screenshot of someone with a cast build, and thanks to the Hourglass, they faced the Hydra with 2 Braids of Atlas. That's +120% cast damage. With a cast that was already at 300 damage or something.
analog crystal
:0
I've yet to run a cast build but it does sound fun
I'm guessing to opt in for one I should go artemis and take her cast right?
forest marsh
Cast builds are super fun, and probably more viable than a lot of people think
Artemis or else Zeus
analog crystal
So would shield be the best weapon just as it has the option to hide behind it?
forest marsh
But they all have their benefits, just depends what sort of insanity you want to deal with
wispy moon
Just got my first Meg kill! !
forest marsh
Congrats!
analog crystal
Ayyy nice! Welcome to asphohell
Also wight, your emotes are so good bless you for having them hahaha
forest marsh
Thank you for giving a chance to rest and relax, Anathemati
analog crystal
True, she works hard with a bad boss smh
forest marsh
Ha ha thanks Kaflajable
woeful stirrup
Is there anyone who thinks cast builds aren't viable? They're the most OP builds you can get, really.
analog crystal
I reckon they arent viable on mirrorless lol
forest marsh
Lots of people say they never use cast Β―_(γ)_/Β―
I wouldn't say they're the most OP though
woeful stirrup
Poseidon cast works very well too. The splash damage is awesome on groups of enemies, and for the Hydra you can sometimes hit 2 (or even 3) heads at the same time.
forest marsh
Bow or Spear with crit-dash and +dmg% +crit% are the most OP in my experience
analog crystal
Poseidons is the most satisfyin i think
Also wight, didn't you say on your list of feedback feedback that they would look into reworking casts?
Im interested in that
woeful stirrup
With a good cast build, you can literally kill a head with 3 casts.
forest marsh
Yup, that's something that is probably being worked on
pastel jolt
three-casting a head is SO good
woeful stirrup
Yep.
woeful stirrup
Had a 290 damage cast plus a braid of Atlas.
analog crystal
I guess with 2s drop if you get that it's decent
forest marsh
The only reason I say bow/spear has higher OP potential than cast is 'cause they can both one-shot Hydra heads pretty easily
woeful stirrup
Worst case scenario, you just hide for a bit too long.
analog crystal
The only reason bow is more OP is cus of how large the % damage is on the hammer imo
Spear is just really well rounded and spin attack has a stupid high base damage
woeful stirrup
I've only had 3 wins on Hydra, currently. One with spear, one with bow, one with shield. Never actually used my weapons as they were all cast builds 
analog crystal
Hahaha omg
drifting hemlock
I always have artemis keepsake and win every run with cast alone...
But i stopped playing until the update
woeful stirrup
I don't use Artemis' keepsake because I still need the Zeus keepsake and it's driving me insane. Only Zeus boon I've seen in 15 runs was in a shop. And you can't give ambrosia in shops ><
forest marsh
I think that might be getting worked on too, but I can't recall. Would have to check the feedback again
pastel jolt
hiding on hydra really isn't that bad when it's just the main head
i've noticed that if you've broken one of the pillars on a side, then if you sit closer to the one that's not broken then you're less likely to get nailed by a shot sneaking through
raven moon
well you can just wait till she starts shooting and dash behind her to avoid all missles
mystic mist
Hey a random question, have you ever noticed that when you start the game (I think when I am already spamming my dash button) sometimes I get a "perfect landing" over my head when I touch the ground, what is that and does it help in any way? Has anyone else seen it?
forest marsh
People have seen it, yes, but as far as I know it's just a little Easter Egg and has no in-game function
If it does have a function, I don't know what it is, nor have I seen someone mention what it might be
pastel jolt
it's just a neat little thing that happens if you hit the dash button at the right time
(or spam it)
forest marsh
As far as I know it works with any of the four inputs
Being attack/dash/special/cast
I know at the very least that attack works, 'cause I've done that one
woeful stirrup
4th Hydra victory, I now have one with each weapon. And, surprise surprise, this time was another cast build
forest marsh
Ha ha there needs to be a Cast category
woeful stirrup
I started with an attack build, but never really got what I needed for it to work.
forest marsh
Where the game registers the majority of your damage as coming from your cast and then adds it to a Cast victory and discards your weapon π
woeful stirrup
So when I got an epic Artemis cast and the Quick Reload, I switched.
Skull Earring was really nice.
cold cave
how do yall get so many boons in a run god damn π
woeful stirrup
Made my cast do above 300 damage, which is the important part.
forest marsh
That's not that many boons, honestly
woeful stirrup
It's only 4 boons.
forest marsh
Though I'd rather have a lower number of boons and more poms
pastel jolt
i've had runs where i had about six or seven
cold cave
oh for sure but ive never had more than 2 from the same god at once
pastel jolt
it sucked, frankly, i would rater have replaced them with poms for the actually useful boons
woeful stirrup
Didn't even get a boon in Asphodel except for that Quick Reload I bought. Freaking useless ball of yarn.
cold cave
and maybe never more than 4 or 5 total
woeful stirrup
Weird, when you get a god, the game usually keeps throwing the same one at you.
This run was an Artemis/Athena run (but I dodged all the Athena ones to get poms instead)
forest marsh
Here's 10 boons, but it was garbage 'cause they didn't help each other and were all relatively low level https://imgur.com/a/bBrhk2G
cold cave
yeah i saw that last night
pastel jolt
true sadness is getting a pom when your only boon is artemis dash
woeful stirrup
A shame the best boon in that lot was the revenge damage, wight
pastel jolt
i've had that happen a couple of times and it suuuuucks
forest marsh
Ha ha yeah, it was a goofy one
woeful stirrup
Pom with Artemis dash is quite good, depending on the weapon you have.
pastel jolt
bow
woeful stirrup
With sword, upgrading the Artemis dash is actually the only way to make it useful.
pastel jolt
so i'm dashing between every hit anyways
woeful stirrup
But yeah, with bow, pretty useless.
But with sword, since your first hit is the lowest damage one, you need to upgrade it.
When I came back from that winning run, Hades said "congratulations" and it warmed my heart. I wanna bury myself in his moustache.
forest marsh
@cold cave If you really want more boons though, try focusing on Trial rooms if you aren't already
woeful stirrup
https://i.imgur.com/f31gBVs.jpg
Forgot to take a screenshot at the end, beat Meg with this, beat the Hydra with 2 more levels in Curse of Agony, Skull Earring and a Heaven's Vengeance (finally got my Zeus keepsake). This build I call "press Y and hope for the best".
woeful stirrup
Never tried an actual suicide build. But it could be really fun. Skull Earring, Heaven's Vengeance/Curse of Vengeance, Different League/Bronze Skin, maybe Pressure Points if you're really lucky, and maxed Avenging Gain.
woeful stirrup
Curse is better and Different League is better, but beggars can't be choosers, really.
woeful stirrup
Given that I needed 16 runs to get a Zeus boon out of a shop, I'm gonna doubt my ability to get the exact boons I need for a suicide build.
patent lodge
weird question but does anyone know of or has worked on a Razer SDK build for Hades yet?
lost rose
i call this one "run 'n' gun"
i've beaten the hydra few enough times that i still pat myself on the back whenever i manage it lol
i actually had a really tough time with the spear, i don't know if it's just because i'm not used to using it or if it was because i had a crap loadout, but i really struggled with meg and died on like the first hydra round after barely making it through asphodel
the sword felt way better
manic goblet
really? I struggled more with the sword than with the spear
interesting to see that there are people who have an easier time with the sword 
glossy slate
Yeah I canβt wrap my head around the sword
I only have one sword win and that was with a giant platter of World Splitter crit cheese
manic goblet
mine was with Furious Cutter LMB spam 
glossy slate
Electric Blender?
full glacier
Is there a place where i can have a look 1t all god boons ?
To see what could be good
I pick em kinda random atm
quartz frost
I actually beat it the first time with the sword thanks to the unlimited swing hammer upgrade
along with the weakened damage buff
stoic sable
I do think being able to buy multiple extra death defiances get a little silly, I got six in total, three brought and three natural on my last run and everything got a little trivial.
empty canopy
Update adds infinite death defys
frosty pier
Kek, time to start running without them then?
worn dawn
Sword is best β€
patent lodge
I can't get anywhere with the sword. Shield all the way
stuck breach
well, shield is all nice and dandy, but you cant put damage on it to save your life
with all other weapons you can actually do something but running and spamming special/cast
willow kindle
http://prntscr.com/m71ag5
'Now you see me, now you don't' build which doesnt require attacking at all. lol.
frosty pier
I find that shield is a weapon of control. In tartarus you smack wall with people like no tomorrow, In Asphodel you push people into lava. As for bosses... you got that .50 cal of a cast for a reason dont you?
That's like whole point of a shield to protect.
shadow oak
shield feels really awful for me without that one 300% daedelus upgrade
the only other viable build would be the special but the special sucks once you get to asphodel
because there aren't any walls
willow kindle
Completely agree on shield-walls thing in Asphadel.
That like... making shield's special competely useless.
hard holly
Yknow, I do wonder if Im playing a different version of Hades
Because shield special is the single worst build in the game
Literally everything else is more viable, even in Tartarus
Whereas regular shield is good, just a bit wonky with direction
Since dash attacks sometimes dont go quite were you want them to go
willow kindle
Wonder what SGG will do in the upcoming update. Will suggest some shield changes if that won't be patched somehow
hard holly
Probably a balance pass and some new additions
Anyway, all shield needs is a rework of special to not be so bad, and some better hammer upgrades maybe
Otherwise its a good and fun weapon
willow kindle
Ye, exact my thoughts
hard holly
Also dash attack upgrade on sword hammer probably needs a change of sorts
stable oyster
Idk what you are talking about, sudden rush crit shield build has crazy dps
frosty pier
Why you need walls then you have lava?
stable oyster
Once I got the combo down shield became my most consistent weapon
stable oyster
I think itβs too long of a range to do 50 at
hard holly
Eh, Bow can do more at a longer range while being safer
stable oyster
You can charge it up at a longer range then bow, then get t quick attacks off bc of how the dash attack works
If you have at least 2 dashes from the mirror shield is longer range then bow
Two quick attacks*
pastel jolt
oh my god i just did the double-bomber room in tartarus without taking a single hit
thank you athena β€
hollow totem
Athena papa bless
willow kindle
@pastel jolt build?)
pastel jolt
sword with increased damage + area on special, athena special, aphrodite dash,
oh and athena attack, just got that now
willow kindle
so basic combo is dash (vulnerability) hit-hit -special?
I'm always diving into the bomb blast cause I can't cancel my casting
pastel jolt
unfortunately i'm all out of death defies and i'm only on meg
stable oyster
Try casting as they jump away after you dodge the 3 they drop
pastel jolt
sword special is nice but the delay at the end is just too much
stable oyster
I believe in you
manic goblet
don't use it without upgrades
pastel jolt
i have upgrades
manic goblet
dash does the same without putting you in huge recovery and lets you do a-
ahem
have fun with it then :>
carmine zinc
I think sword special would better if you could move sooner than now at the end of it
For the moment it s a bit frustrating
pastel jolt
drifting hemlock
how much dmg is that per special ?
Even tho it looks strong i could imagine it being rough against the hydra with the minor self stun
pastel jolt
i'm doing 220 to the hydra per special
honestly i've done this build a patch too early
hard holly
Wait
stable oyster
Only 220
pastel jolt
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
hard holly
Oh hold on
pastel jolt
that's the number that's coming up whenever i hit it
stable oyster
Even if it was only additive I think it would be more
drifting hemlock
440
hard holly
Nope, its just right
stable oyster
Itβs 50 by default yea?
hard holly
Aye
drifting hemlock
yep
hard holly
If it were multiplicative, itd be 340
stable oyster
It says + 240%
drifting hemlock
oh wait true
hard holly
Plus regular 50, thats 220
stable oyster
So in all it should be 540% of 50
tough tulip
https://i.imgur.com/d9JjwSE.png yo so why does 2+1=4
stable oyster
Oh nvm
tough tulip
is it cause one of my kills was a 0phase and I only used bow special?
stable oyster
Itβs only + 100
hard holly
I think if you had successful runs prior to a phase
drifting hemlock
yeah having to use 6 specials for a small head is rough
pastel jolt
it's so much fun when you mistime a dash and get nailed by four projectiles in a row
hard holly
I mean prior to a patch
tough tulip
ah ok
patent lodge
so there is an "end game"
pastel jolt
yeah, weapon runs are only counted since the patch that introduced that stat
mine are all correct bc i didn't manage to get a hydra kill until recently :')
hard holly
The upside of being a scrub
drifting hemlock
Scrupside?
hard holly
I only had 3 succesful runs prior to the patch tho
The remaining 12 came after the patch
No wait, 16
tough tulip
I wanted to get some good practice in before the patch here
drifting hemlock
In case they add a new level im ready just outside the hydra room with 7 casts all dealing 200 dmg with 1 burst shot and a 2 sec drop rate π
tough tulip
lel
I still have my old day4 save at hydra that I used to do a 11 sec kill
but I'd rather get a new run
hard holly
Im gonna do a fresh run post-patch
Hopefully with the scythe we totally should be getting
drifting hemlock
is a schythe greeky tho?
patent lodge
@drifting hemlock totally
lots O' farming
also is there a list of upcoming patch notes I haven't seen somewhere?
tough tulip
maybe sickle is more in flavor
hard holly
There were scythes in myth
Kronus had one
And Scythe fits with Demeter, who will be getting a weapon
patent lodge
It will be nice to have some new weapons to play with
tough tulip
I'm mostly hyped for a new floor
patent lodge
I can't get past the Valkery yet so that doesn't do so much for me π
drifting hemlock
Yeah the most bummer-y thing for me currently is when you get a dope build and then pummel the hydra and just... reset...
patent lodge
thank you
hard holly
Imagine if you still had pre-nerf Aphrodite + Artemis build
patent lodge
just played through GoW so I'm getting them confused
hard holly
Thats some broken stuff
drifting hemlock
I started the game 2 weeks ago or so, so i didnt try anything of that π
tough tulip
yeh, that's how I did my first hydra kill
on bow special
0phased it
aphrodite was so gud
drifting hemlock
So it didnt have impervious phases?
hard holly
Back then they didnt become invulnerable in the middle of an attack
tough tulip
200% damage
hard holly
They had to actually activate their invulnerability
drifting hemlock
Ahh okay
Had a 600 dmg per swing sword build the other day that would have done the same i reckon
drifting hemlock
To be honest in that clip no stuns were made so
tough tulip
animationlocked* then
drifting hemlock
It was constantly in an attack
tough tulip
call it what you will
drifting hemlock
I call it the enemy attacking
and you killing it while it attacks
theres no lock or stun happening from the attack
tough tulip
k what about this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTqFZlcphkk
the end
her attack is interrupted so she starts it again, over and over
tough tulip
Β―_(γ)_/Β―
pastel jolt
in fairness "how?" seems to be a reasonable reaction for her to have in that clip
empty canopy
Meg decided she just could not be bothered that run
barren oyster
Meg just wanted to go back and have a drink.
hard holly
Idk, I think she had enough Shots for the day
willow kindle
(iseewhatyoudidthere:D)
scarlet dagger
i tab back into this chat and the first thing i see is a pun
do you live only to make others suffer?
stable oyster
Hay-des puns arenβt that bad
scarlet dagger
.......alright i think we're done here
stable oyster
Meg it stop?
scarlet dagger
i can feel my arteries clogging up
grand patrol
everyone take a break
eat a punogranate
scarlet dagger
ouch
willow kindle
Prefer Puno Bianko (1962est)
grand patrol
:3
willow kindle
a good glass of old pun-wine. yey
stable oyster
I love hades so much we are inseparable. Thereβs no chance you can Cerberus
willow kindle
ohgod. Read it twice to get xD nice one
stable oyster
Thanks for styxing up for me
scarlet dagger
why must you hurt me so
stable oyster
Punishers?
willow kindle
that sounds like a punchline
hard holly
There is only one punisher, and thats me
stable oyster
Call me Poseidon bc imma knock you to the other side of the room
(Then have no boss dps)
scarlet dagger
news just in: local girl flippin' dies
body found discarded in the middle of the #h1-builds-and-combat chat, covered in puncture wounds
hard holly
I know youre being flippant, but that pun was just a flop
stable oyster
They call me the word splitter bc my puns do 4x dmg
empty canopy
Pun related pun!
hard holly
I mean, even if you died by being kicked by a horse, youd not escape
Because even that would be a punt
stable oyster
Was that what I think it was
pastel jolt
okay, could we have some actual gameplay-related discussion in here instead of just "who can make the least funny pun" please
empty canopy
no
hard holly
Smh, mods not appreciating this high-brow humour
pastel jolt
what i'm not appreciating is that almost every conversation you're in devolves into a mindless punfest of no actual value to anyone
stable oyster
If you make a pun channel we will move
pastel jolt
no, no pun channel
errant narwhal
I appreciate your passion for puns, everyone, but try not to continuously interrupt conversations or steer them off topic with them. Thereβs a time and a place for everything, and #off-topic-discussion must be more fitting for these pun-offs.
hard holly
I mean I only make one or two, what happens from there is beyond my control
But thats fair, I guess
pastel jolt
not all of them
stable oyster
Perfect shot is the most fun
errant narwhal
steady shot
hard holly
I mean the special one is narrow, but can also be op
Steady shot does not exist
You imagined it
errant narwhal
it doesnβt. See, I crossed it out
patch notes: alma has obliterated steady shot
stable oyster
New perk: unsteady shot +300% projectile spread + 250% dmg
hard holly
Thats just worse pointblank shot
hard holly
Ah, the classic melee ranger style
errant narwhal
No no
Unsteady shot: the bow does 500% damage, but has a 20% chance to damage you
hard holly
So the "guess I die" upgrade
stable oyster
What if when you miss it hits you
pastel jolt
stable oyster
Just imagine zag spinning in circles with his bow trying to 360 no scope