#h1-builds-and-combat

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tight basin
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i mean the hidden aspect specific ones make sense

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esp on luci bc luci invalidates so many base hammers

autumn haven
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Aspect of Lucifer recommendations?

tight basin
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but every other hammer can effect 2 aspects

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im pretty sure

clear dock
long escarp
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triple bomb

clear dock
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mayb zeus special as well

autumn haven
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Of course, always Zeus...

tight basin
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and the reason why it doesnt affect the other is bc it'd remove the gimmick completely, not bc it sucks

long escarp
clear dock
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no

autumn haven
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How about, Zeus and Dionysus?

long escarp
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I thought you’d want Artemis or Aphrodite on special

plain river
tight basin
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so like your theoretical 1 shot hammer for rail would work for 3/4 rails, but you'd never take it on 2 of the rails bc it just sucks there lmao

autumn haven
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Artemis actually sounds cool.

clear dock
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special has a pulsing damage

long escarp
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Yeah but it’s negligible

plain river
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Artemis and aphrodite are your go to’s

worn solar
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Youre better off just blowing up your specials

clear dock
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ok

plain river
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These are big base damage hits, you want big +%, not miniscule flat damage

autumn haven
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Alright, I'll try Artemis because I'm obsessed with big number.

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Thanks!

plain river
autumn haven
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That sounds metal.

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Thanks for the suggestion.

worn solar
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Until you also knock the mobs out of the special

tight basin
tight basin
plain river
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Real but something like blade dash has a hard time triggering explosions

tight basin
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fair

autumn haven
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I got it pretty high, I've been farming blood like crazy.

tight basin
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if it's like lvl 3 lowest maybe then it's prob fine

autumn haven
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All my weapons are almost done I just got spear, sword, and gun left.

plain river
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how dumb would plume be

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also realising I haven’t even gifted Hermes for his plume anyways

tight basin
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lmfao

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i mean

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why

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take like acorn or something

plain river
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ig tizomg

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Mind you I have zeus strike jolted and splitting bolt

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I feel like I’d love more additive

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while getting dodge

vital night
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Hey guys what if we added a weapon that does infinity damage to everything in the room with one click? Wouldn't that be cool?

plain river
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Wait I have 100 max hp atm bouldy

plain river
vital night
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i mean

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that's just hestia

plain river
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it’s literally just hestia but push it to the extreme and remove the option to use regular shots against blue armour or hoards

vital night
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i've crit for like 3k before

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yeah

clear dock
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Really feeling the love

plain river
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Not every idea needs love. People do, but you aren’t exclusively a single idea you had, and there are other things to love about you.

clear dock
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That's a ridiculous idea and people should mock you

plain river
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Maybe. I haven’t put too much thought into it tizomg

potent tree
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Look at the antlers on that one!

clear dock
vital night
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i hope you're feeling the love buddy

plain river
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Wish me luck tizomg

vital night
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that is the build

plain river
clear dock
plain river
clear dock
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@potent tree I can narrow it down for you if you're not interested in the hunt. 😉

potent tree
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I'm gonna find you and punch you with my little squirrel paws

clear dock
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I don't think that will be sufficient to obtain your trophy

clear dock
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disappointing.

unreal saffron
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No but it sounds like you did kek

clear dock
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👍

brisk adder
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For achilles what's the better hammer, Flurry jab, extending jab or vicious skewer? None sound particularly great

proper furnace
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Flurry

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By far

plain river
brisk adder
long escarp
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Works best with Zeus or Artemis attack

brisk adder
plain river
dry furnace
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Wait does the heat thing that’s like “traps and magma deal 400% damage” apply to Hades’ vases

brisk adder
dry furnace
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So that’s why they’re doing 46 damage

plain river
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Oh you must have sure footing

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Because those normally do 150 with heightened security

dry furnace
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Oh wow

plain river
brisk adder
plain river
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and if you’re feeling lucky you just tidal dash start, look for any of those 4 in tartarus and decide on your god keepsake for asphodel from there

jolly chasm
brisk adder
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On a zagbow run, got point blank shot for first hammer and for second my options are perfect, piercing volley and flurry shot. Perfect is the one to go for here right?

worn solar
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Particularly with the funny tech

brisk adder
worn solar
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You dash and press attack then attack + special(or cast) and it shoots twice in a row

plain river
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I’m too manual for flurry zag bow

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Hera is a different question I need my thumb for casting

plain river
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@tight basin why’s my merciful end zag bow run with no merciful end or flurry actually going just fine bouldy

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I don’t even have impending wth

proper furnace
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the hit and run ever

plain river
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Base attack is putting in work

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Now I have to choose between triple, ricochet and relentless and I’m leaning triple but I think my earlier clear has me biased for ricochet so I’m debating

lethal plover
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I'd like to issue a formal apology to Adamant Rail
The idea of a gun in a game like this just didn't stick wigh me first, but then I maxxed out Hestia and... holy cow

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This thing isn't a semi-auto anymore it's a sniper rifle shadefear

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I cleared Tarturus in like 3 mins and 20 secs (200 secs)
I never had below 4 mins before that

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[REDACTED] when I whip out the MLG 360 noscope

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And it's got some insane hammers too
One of them makes it pierce through enemies and do extra armor damage so now you can one-hit multiple enemies if you get them to line up properly
Also the one that just ricochets the bullet

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Ares would be blushing profusely

lusty galleon
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what is the best aspect for the sheild

inner coral
summer kiln
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I need help on Zagreus sword 18 heat build… i struggle even to try to clear the sisters and lerny… the final thrust always throw off my timing and i just cant get enough boon combo to rake up DPS

lusty galleon
long escarp
inner coral
long escarp
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Just dash strike -> dash strike -> special

long escarp
inner coral
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Because the special is bad… very bad

long escarp
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Which makes it unequivocally the worst shield by any metric, but it’s still a shield

inner coral
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Zag shield spam attack, zeus spam special and beo spam… lets call it “cast”

summer kiln
long escarp
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Merciful End

summer kiln
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Ares build then

vital night
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But yeah there’s not a good chaos special build for heat

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Maybe doom or hangover

brisk adder
viral garnet
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any manageable builds for arthur aspect? except for crit, i just find it very inconsistent unless i take hunter's mark

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also at least something that can take a speeder + forced overtime 1/2 elite from tart 😂 also em3

worn solar
viral garnet
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true..

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i really quite like it but its just has so many flaws

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ill prob just do a desired heat run then go back from using nem

vital night
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Stacking damage reduction is nice

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Otherwise yeah just put together some semblance of a soup

viral garnet
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ironically my fastest clear yet is done with arthur, although i really only got very lucky (getting nearly +300% attack bonus with Chaos boons on first biome)

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but yeah its just really the worst when it comes to speed

long escarp
inner coral
long escarp
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I was thinking between 32 and 50 probably

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Maybe Arthur is awful at like 48, idk, but it’s definitely not that bad at 45

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There’s at least 10 aspects that I would have a harder time with at 45 heat

inner coral
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Medium heat lmao

long escarp
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Sub50 is medium to me

inner coral
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Never doing 32 heat again… hard enough for me

long escarp
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The difference between 45 and 50 heat is like the difference between 0 and 40

viral garnet
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bouldy havent even tried heat 32 yet

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although im doing fine so far

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i just hate speeders to be honest

long escarp
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The benefits package condition?

viral garnet
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yeah, and i also have forced overtime turned on currently

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just makes 2nd biome so annoying

long escarp
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Yeah I can validate that lmao

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Speeder is AWFUL

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FO2 speeders move at 210% speed

worn solar
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Speeder wavers bouldy

viral garnet
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worse is im trying to make a play with arthur, thats why i asked so much earlier

long escarp
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You’d probably be better off with HL5 than FO2 on Arthur

viral garnet
vital night
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Most other options are just way better

long escarp
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At 45 heat, I’d rather have Arthur than Gilga, Talos, any spear, Chiron, Hera

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Tbh maybe Zag sword

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Probably zag fists

vital night
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Yeah that’s fair

worn solar
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Ngl id rather any of those things over arthur other than gilga bouldy

long escarp
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Apparently my Arthur 45 was first try

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Oh I had epic greater reflex and epic lvl4 tidal dash, that probably helped bouldy

viral garnet
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i got ares strike, aphro call, zeus dash into smouldering air

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i couldnt change ares strike because it became heroic due to demeter boon, i tried to get all aphro boons i can before it did but no luck

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i did use aphro keepsake first, but didnt gave me strike (picked dash, sold it and get zeus dash to still get smouldering air chance)

viral garnet
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true.. ig that was my mistake

brisk adder
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What's best aspect to play with for a boonless run (using shackle)

inner coral
proper furnace
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Def hestia

vital night
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Yeah hestia is best

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Zeus, Zagshield, and chaos are also good

brisk adder
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Will try them, thank you!

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How do you avoid boons?

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Does it mean have no god stuff at all?

proper furnace
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Fated authority or just take enough to be able to sell them all at the next pool

vital night
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Take stuff you don’t need to use

proper furnace
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If it's for the dialogue you can take any non sellable boon

vital night
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Like hestia could get by with just an attack

brisk adder
vital night
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If you want to do a run without using a boon, unbinding stuff for boons you get would work.

proper furnace
brisk adder
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Would shackle bonus still apply with those boons?

vital night
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Having a boon opens secondaries and poms, which don’t brick the run, so potentially could be a strategy

proper furnace
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Premium vintage/nourished soul/etc

proper furnace
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Attack boon keeps the cast/special online for example

brisk adder
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So I don't need to go completely boonless then

proper furnace
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Yeah if you are forced into boons you won't be disabling shackle entirely

brisk adder
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Okay cool, thank you!

brisk adder
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What hammers does Hestia pair well with? I have spread fire

worn solar
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Spread fire doesnt do anything to the expowered shot but ig you can use it for squishy targets

brisk adder
plain river
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It’s good on zag rail

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Eris is makes too much use of fds with regular rail attack speed and ammo

worn solar
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Its good for zag rail but you have to know youre getting it because usually you just start zeus attack which isnt good with it

plain river
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for it to be worth it

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zeus strike works just fine with it

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a +% strike or merciful end would be ideal but zeus still works great

worn solar
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Ig its fine but its kinda a waste bouldy

plain river
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~ you have a new outlet for chaos boosts

brisk adder
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For Hestia do you still start with Zeus attack?

plain river
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You reload after every first shot so you take an +% goddess like aphro or arte

worn solar
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Pro tip for hestia: dont get savior enemies bouldy

worn solar
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Helps rebinding dash and reload

brisk adder
plain river
viral garnet
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benefits package effects for elites

worn solar
viral garnet
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it gives shield every few secs that negates damage

plain river
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It’s hell on numbskulls

worn solar
plain river
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Saviour numbskulls are unironically the reason my 32 heat clear on my second save is with zag rail

plain river
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“Haha nope I’ll use an aspect that can handle this better”

worn solar
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bouldy i lost to than for the first time almost ever 27 to 10 because of a savior numbskull room. Literally had to run around waiting for than to kill them for me

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In some rooms you can somewhat manage if there are pillars since those deal a bunch of hits but otherwise its just death

plain river
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I have to finish my zeus zag bow run

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It was surprisingly not bad? I only hit flurry halfway through elysium but

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It wasn’t bad up till that point

brisk adder
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So my first Hestia run didn't go so well (although got to Hades and had him on second stage just under half hp). Handicapped myself with shackle (only because I haven't completely figured it out yet). Was getting 1k hits though and I have no idea how

brisk adder
vital night
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Oh yeah it’s tough since it blocks off acorn for ely and Styx

rich storm
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What's a good easy to use build?

potent tree
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Ain't nothing less complicated than Zagbow with either Aphrodite attack or Artemis + Chaos attack boons. Just dash-strike ad nauseum

worn solar
potent tree
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But but I left instructions

worn solar
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Until just press attack to dash strike instead of holding for perfect shot

potent tree
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Oh true. I guess I assumed people read the instructions that pop up upon selecting weapons

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How foolish of me

worn solar
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Tbh the instructions say "press attack" bouldy

potent tree
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Oh do they. I guess it has been a while oops

worn solar
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Idk how sg never fixed that

plain river
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zag bow is going to be the most straight forward for you to learn

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start off with aphrodite's keepsake so you can take her strike, since she has the highest innate +%, and weaken is a strong debuff

rich storm
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wait zagbow meaning aspect of zagreus?

plain river
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I'm going to let you think about that for a second

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(Yes)

rich storm
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oh ok understood

plain river
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Typically people shortform zag from zagreus, and I took the time there to specify the bow aspect, but sometimes you just context clue it given everyone is talking about rail, when they reference “using zag” they probably mean zag rail

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etc

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Or any particularly long aspect name

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Who has the time to properly type out nemesis or poseidon? They become nem and pos

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Same thing for the big gods too

potent tree
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I thought the question addressed to me was sarcasm

plain river
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Can’t be bothered to type our artemis so you type out arte or arti or arty (left to right on your level of insanity for using them)

viscid sentinel
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what do you guys buid on Guan Yu spear

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I've always struggled with it

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nvm ill read pins

plain river
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I think nyaanyaa has a build pinned in pins? she may not

plain river
# viscid sentinel nvm ill read pins

Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Serrated Point. Breaching Skewer and Serpent Wing also alright. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.

Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.

You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).

For optimal DPS, you're either doing Special > Dash-Strike x2 or Cast > Dash-Strike x2 with Guan Yu. Cast for single-target, Special when you can hit multiple enemies with it (or if you have Charged Skewer). And just your Special and reposition if it's enough to one-shot things (which it often is if you have Charged Skewer).

There are two ways to charge the spin: from a normal Attack and from a Dash-Attack. 99% of the time you want to charge from a Dash-Attack. And there are three ways to release a spin: let go of Attack, Dash, and Dash-Attack. Letting go of Attack is the safest method and how you want to release it most of the time. It's also usually the best method for keeping the spin on your enemy. Releasing with a dash gives you i-frames and a lot more range for the spin, but it travels faster. You mainly use that to quickly escape a situation or to throw your spin at very far-away enemies. And releasing with a Dash-Attack gives you the extra range that a Dash gives but without any of the i-frames, but the benefit is that you can immediately charge a new spin. This method is the most aggressive and best for DPS, and it can keep you within the Deflect spin if you happen to use Divine Strike.

summer kiln
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Does "weak" increase damage from other boon effect and cast? Or just physical attack?

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Also Pressure Point will give crit to damage from all boon effect and cast? or just physical damage?

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Physical damage i mean normal attack and special

willow fossil
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And I think pressure points also applies to everything except like maybe hangover

long escarp
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And explosive return

normal jay
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Guys, just one question: does bonuses from Chaos stack? For exemple: if I have a bonus on finding rarest boon 2 times (like +13% and +21%) does its stack?

willow fossil
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Should

viral garnet
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Chaos is best for stacking stats, I always go for it in all of my runs

neat solar
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there is any good build for the canon?

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?

long escarp
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Uh

willow fossil
summer kiln
willow fossil
summer kiln
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i see thanks!

willow fossil
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hangover can crit?

plain river
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yes, with pressure points, hunter's mark and deadly reversal

willow fossil
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well there you go, pressure points remain the goat

plain river
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splitting headache just happens to only add crit chance to damage sources that already have a crit chance

willow fossil
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yeah that i did know about, which i still find weird given the wording

plain river
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so the most common way to "see" hangover crit doesn't even work without auxilary boons

plain river
plain river
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pressure points is still absolutely negligible but

long escarp
willow fossil
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Hold on, a new combatant has entered the battle

plain river
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does explosive return at least get hit by the universal stuff like sweet surrender

long escarp
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Yeah I think it just can’t crit

plain river
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wth

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Oh II forgot to mention extra damage like hoarding slash and merciful end's bonus 40

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which are the only 2 cases where those exist and just get added after all other damage calc

summer kiln
vital night
plain river
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since it’ll only give a crit chance to damage sources that have a crit chance already

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other you roll an artemis boon and the rest of the options are bouldy

summer kiln
plain river
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It’s also got niche use on eris/zag rail flat damage soup if you can grab it and hunters mark

plain river
summer kiln
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for me pressure point kinda need to use with support fire to tickle the chances

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i kinda like it with the heart seeking bow

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7 arrows with boon effect = 2 types of damages per hit = 14x chance of trigering the pressure point effect [correct?]

plain river
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Support fire, like chain lightning and lightning bolts

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has an internal cooldown

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so it can only prok once every ~

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I think it’s 0.2 seconds for support fire

summer kiln
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i dont mind

plain river
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same as lightning bolts

summer kiln
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since if its lighting means jolt is also included

plain river
summer kiln
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oh hmmm

plain river
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What I’m getting at is that it doesn’t work as well as people expect on chiron and other bow specials

willow fossil
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sadly

summer kiln
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ah welp so its just that its okay but dont bet on it kind of situation then?

plain river
summer kiln
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usually i have as good to have and in case i need to sell then it can go lol

plain river
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zeus, fists, flurry jab spear, rail strike all make better use of it than bow special

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But in the end it’s still pretty mid

summer kiln
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yea i get it

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i need to get to 32 heat before i can allow myself to play H2

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i failed at zag sword 18 heat just now at last boss final 20% hp..

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need to complete it as i have 0 clear with zag sword

plain river
summer kiln
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my fastest clear is with Poseidon aspect

vital night
summer kiln
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idk i have even clear with other 3 aspect only Zero on most zag aspects

plain river
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It's definitely an aspect that exists

summer kiln
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it was a pain in the ass tbh to use

willow fossil
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hes calling it bad without calling it bad

plain river
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I mean any sword is-

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anyways

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I digress

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non-arthur sword gameplay is going to suck if you aren't dash striking 90-95%% of the time

summer kiln
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ouf

vital night
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Poseidon sword is weak Achilles

summer kiln
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i kinda like lunge special hammer i use it to escape lol

willow fossil
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sorry i cant play this, i can only consume media via gifs

summer kiln
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not loading =/

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but i get your idea

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also hellion's zag sword run was insane

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he can just stand still to eleminate the furies sisters

plain river
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That’s kinda the last thing you want to do if you’re looking for success

summer kiln
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i know

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lol

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i was hoping doom and jolt can help me

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does the delayed doom boon work on stacked doom and revenge doom?

plain river
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yes

willow fossil
plain river
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Since your doom stays up for longer, you can get more hits in an give the doom a few more 12 base damage addons

plain river
willow fossil
plain river
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Whomst’d’ve

summer kiln
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after 20heat should i just focus on one aspect to clear till 32?

plain river
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It’ll probably go smoother that way

summer kiln
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sicne it dont really transfer over other weapons

plain river
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You’ll almost definitely have a better shot if you just practice one at a time

summer kiln
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32 and bull's autographs and im done

willow fossil
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asterius, my beloved

summer kiln
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idk how many times i still have to die to get it lol

willow fossil
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until the bull is ready!

plain river
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rng dialogue time

proper furnace
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You need to die to Theseus as well iirc

willow fossil
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Wait really

proper furnace
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You need to die in a bunch of scenarios for it iirc lmao

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Die to asterius - miniboss/die to asterius - boss/die to Theseus

summer kiln
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hmmm afaik it has to proc a dialogue if die but not prog means wasted effort and redo

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i just dont know if sequence is important or not

summer kiln
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i die to hades at last 20% again

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too much mistake guess

rocky arrow
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lucifer hellfire build?

vital night
rocky arrow
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Just pure arti?

vital night
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Zeus on attack is good but arty or aphro are best on special

rocky arrow
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Mhm

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If I do aphro on special I gotta pray for pp

vital night
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not really

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aphro is more than enough damage without crits

rocky arrow
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Mmm

worn solar
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Pressure points doesnt do very much

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The most it does is help trigger hunters mark

pliant raven
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Omega is definitely my favorite mechanic in hades 1 bouldy

proper furnace
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Wrong chat

lethal plover
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Are there any detailed guides out there for speedruns? I wanna look into specific strats like pause buffering

tight basin
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there's also the speedrun guide compendium on the speedrun website

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but also pause buffering is just pausing before making decisions lmao

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so that way you're not running the in game timer while thinking

lethal plover
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Oh that's really it? 'Cause I've actually been doing it on any run that I've had Tight Deadline activated on for a while now
I thought it does some unforeseen thing, but Ig not lol

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Ty tho I'll check the Discord out! misery

tight basin
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yeah pause buffering is really just for giving yourself time to think before doing stuff

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you can like

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spam pause through combats too if you want but that's up to you lmao

lethal plover
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Yeahh I've seen WRs just spamming pause before [REDACTED] suddenly gets thousands of damage

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That's really why I thought something else is happening outside of the timer

vital night
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She just likes pausing a lot. Doesn’t do anything to the game

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You’re expected to be doing thousands of damage in a hades speedrun tbh

lethal plover
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Yeahh fair. That sweet, sweet DPS and all

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I get so invested in speedruns I forget some stuff are just nonsense the player just likes to do

vital night
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Real

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It does seem to help with planning out room clear though

vagrant crane
vital night
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But you do it quite a bit and he mentioned world records

vagrant crane
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nobody has watched my world records

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wtf ananke nnevic engrish are src mods now

summer kiln
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Does it work if i just go right at 32 heat from 18? thanthink

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Would be a pain to get used to tho i gotta say

tight basin
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it's doable

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with a good pact and build it's fine

summer kiln
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Does Erebus offer better perks (higher rarity/% reward) or its just the same as any chamber?

tight basin
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higher rarity yeah

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if it's a heart/pom/gold it's double the reward

willow fossil
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Same as the styx mini boss rooms

summer kiln
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Ohw nice

plain river
ruby coral
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Hello

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I have a question, do I need to start a fresh new game to beat hades 10 times

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To bring Persephone

ruby coral
plain river
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You can do more runs on tge same save fild

ruby coral
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I was just asking

plain river
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Here you had an initial sentence that gave context for what you meant

ruby coral
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it is a genuine question lmfao

plain river
ruby coral
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Anyhow thanks for the info

plain river
ruby coral
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no?

plain river
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I have killed Dad 260 times on my main save file

plain river
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so you head back into the same save file, go into the courtyard and start another run

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The same way you’ve been doing runs the whole time

ruby coral
proper furnace
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Is this just to replay the story or?

plain river
proper furnace
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There's only one ending to the game

ruby coral
proper furnace
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  • an epilogue
ruby coral
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Thanks

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Lemme get into it then.

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Have a good one buddy

plain river
#

summer kiln
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have you ever have run that you take the keep sake but after 30 stages you only encounter the god once

willow fossil
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No

summer kiln
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in face i only have 6 boons so far

willow fossil
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Never seen I happen

summer kiln
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including the ones sold so total 8

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excluding hammers

willow fossil
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Yall need to record this, cause I've never seen this happen in like ever, and I watch a lot of hades

summer kiln
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my jeus run till now i still cant have jolted

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lmao

willow fossil
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Like are you sure you didn't accidentally ignore the god in the first room for a chaos gate

summer kiln
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perfectly sure

willow fossil
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Doubt, but alright big bug

proper furnace
willow fossil
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It should still be the first God you encounter

proper furnace
#

I mean I've had it happen lol

summer kiln
willow fossil
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Massive bug

summer kiln
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i can check back for you after i ded

willow fossil
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Can't you f10 in h1 still? Yall should report this

proper furnace
willow fossil
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They said they didn't see the god once

proper furnace
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They mentioned not getting jolted

summer kiln
willow fossil
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Oh so they saw the god already nvm, then yeah, that's completely normal, the keepsake only works once

worn solar
summer kiln
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ok where do i post

willow fossil
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Nvm I missread, yeah that's normal

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What do you need

proper furnace
#

Send to another discord > right click > copy link

willow fossil
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Yeha that's that's, the keepsake only works once

summer kiln
#

but i never saw jeus again?

willow fossil
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Once you see the room once it has no effect aside rarity

summer kiln
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weird af

willow fossil
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Ok that has nothing to do with the keepsake

summer kiln
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i know

willow fossil
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Just run rng

proper furnace
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That's why I asked about dark foresight/god pool

summer kiln
#

just big f on rng

proper furnace
#

But yeah rng just do be like that sometimes

willow fossil
#

You mentioned keepsake so i thought you expected it to affect it

summer kiln
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i see so i just gotta suck it on this run then

willow fossil
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yeah

summer kiln
#

guess might as well get killed by theseus

proper furnace
#

Which wep is this

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Img doesn't wanna load on my end

willow fossil
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it loaded on mobile but not loading on pc now

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discord must be taking a dump

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is zag sword

proper furnace
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...why are they looking for zeus with this?

willow fossil
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idk

proper furnace
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Is this flurry zeus atk

willow fossil
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uh

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i dont think so

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is dash nova... and double nova

proper furnace
willow fossil
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ares flourish

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no ap, this was willingly

vital night
#

ap2 ahh build

willow fossil
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on god

vital night
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first god might have gotten erebus'd

proper furnace
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What zeus boon they have then

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Dash?

willow fossil
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just the strike

vital night
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i mean

willow fossil
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lvl 7 epic

worn solar
vital night
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if god pool/cores are not filled, you're unlikely to see that god again

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since it's a 1/8 chance

willow fossil
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im just translating here mate

proper furnace
potent tree
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Kill da messenger!

willow fossil
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no dash/call

worn solar
#

Diminishing returns go brrr

willow fossil
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wai gimme a sec

proper furnace
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How many gods you had boons from

willow fossil
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there

proper furnace
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3 gods moment ig

summer kiln
#

4

vital night
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yeah unfilled god pool

worn solar
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Hermes doesnt count

vital night
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hermes doesn't count

proper furnace
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Chaos/hermes don't count

summer kiln
#

dem, pos, zus ared

proper furnace
#

Oh

vital night
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where is dem

worn solar
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You sure youre not buying/taking poms over boons bouldy

proper furnace
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Ok yeah rng just hated you

willow fossil
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wheres dem?

proper furnace
willow fossil
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oh he sold

summer kiln
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sold

vital night
#

oh reasonable

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yeah i've had runs like this

proper furnace
#

Btw swap dark regen to the other one

vital night
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zeus start and then next zeus boon is in ely

willow fossil
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even with cores filled, thats still just rng at its finest

proper furnace
#

Works worse with dark foresight

willow fossil
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yeah darkness regen is pepega with dark foresight

summer kiln
#

also this run has too many armored+ perks minions

worn solar
#

Why is cp2 on at 18 heat bouldy

summer kiln
#

more tha last run

willow fossil
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xd

summer kiln
#

but seems different every run

vital night
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it's only 30% moment

summer kiln
#

some i got lucky some no

willow fossil
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you have full armored pacts, expect armored enemies

vital night
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everything will take 30% longer to kill

summer kiln
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argh

willow fossil
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especially on elysium

vital night
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yeah it's literally one of the worst pacts

willow fossil
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nail of talos goes hard

summer kiln
#

well i guess ima take armord down

vital night
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try some more extreme measures and tight deadline

summer kiln
#

ok

proper furnace
summer kiln
#

sag sowrd really bad for tatarus

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always have to reach over lava

proper furnace
#

Zag sword really stinky

vital night
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asphodel has lava, not tartarus

summer kiln
#

oh

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lol

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mb

vital night
#

all g

willow fossil
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so you were commited to zeus strike, given the 7 poms, why the double special hammer

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what else was offered

summer kiln
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i get duo boon offer early too wtf

willow fossil
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you cant reroll hammers

summer kiln
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i mean over all

willow fossil
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nvm

vital night
#

what were your other hammer choices though

summer kiln
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yeah hammer one i get trust crit, wave, etc

willow fossil
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trust crit wouldve been nice

vital night
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wave is probably better

willow fossil
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def better than dash nova

summer kiln
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i go to hammer of choice is the rapid slash, backstab and lunge special (for dash alt)

willow fossil
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rapid slash as in flurry?

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that wouldve been god tier with zeus strike

summer kiln
willow fossil
#

so?

willow fossil
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so why not that one?

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if you were commited to zeus

worn solar
#

Flurry bad bouldy

willow fossil
#

yes, but

summer kiln
willow fossil
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so dash nova was better

worn solar
#

Dash nova also bad

proper furnace
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Tbh yeah flurry would've been funny at least

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Commit to zeus at that point

willow fossil
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^

summer kiln
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i get what i can with zues already i prefer cast but i reroll still dont get cast

willow fossil
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you pommed it 7 times lol

worn solar
#

True bouldy

willow fossil
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if you tell me youre running ap2 this all makes sense, but like, this was all willingly bouldy

summer kiln
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its a lousy run

willow fossil
#

yeah just a bad run mate

summer kiln
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i have 3 waves of armored skulls for a few rooms

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and a room full of armored hands with shadow clone

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i'll try again tomorrow

ruby coral
#

I have finished the game again and found out that I have 11 clears now zaglol

ruby coral
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I thought I had 2 or something

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it said total clears 11

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imma fool

plain river
ruby coral
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but I just wanted to add more achievements

plain river
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like she should've been back in the house if that was your 11th clear, given she comes back on clear 10

ruby coral
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I need to complete that list to get titan blood

plain river
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yep

ruby coral
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I want to upgrade weapons

ruby coral
plain river
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The more correct question is “aspect”

ruby coral
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I use the sword mainly

plain river
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tbh

ruby coral
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Facts

plain river
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I main zag bow but I play around with everything

ruby coral
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I need to get the hidden aspect

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There is a trick to it

plain river
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The meta aspects are a bit straight forward

plain river
potent tree
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Zagbow is wonderful

plain river
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Zag bow’s my only sub10 clear zagpls

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And 40 heat unless I did it with more aspects since

ruby coral
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Looks a bit hard

potent tree
#

Zagbow to me is like an easier Hestia zaggrin

ruby coral
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Bro yall playing zaglol

potent tree
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Zagbow's legitimately pretty good

vital night
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hestia is literally 2 buttons

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zagbow is also 2 i guess

ruby coral
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but I see the dedication

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also I need to beat Hades with 6 weapons

vital night
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it does a lot of damag

ruby coral
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so eh

potent tree
willow fossil
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Chiron should be dash striking too imo

ruby coral
#

but never tried the bow

proper furnace
willow fossil
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But you have to attack first

ruby coral
#

Which boons/gods for the bow?

plain river
proper furnace
#

Shackle's here and too lazy to explain myself

ruby coral
willow fossil
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Incoming meg fight gif

vital night
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He’s gonna post the gif

willow fossil
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Yep

vital night
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Lmao

vital night
willow fossil
#

Good ol shackle

vital night
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And Rama beat 64

willow fossil
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Shackle being a bow enjoyer doesn't mean you have to be, you not liking the bow doesn't make it bad

plain river
ruby coral
willow fossil
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Suit yourself

plain river
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The bow is a lot more fun when you aren’t standing around

ruby coral
vital night
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50 heat on each weapon would be a good goal to shoot for then

willow fossil
plain river
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That’s mastery

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or sub9

vital night
#

Nah mastery is sub7

plain river
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true

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Sub7

vital night
#

Well

willow fossil
#

Subway

vital night
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Nah mastery is within 30 seconds of the wr

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Sub 7 is relatively easy on a good aspect

willow fossil
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Go the extra mile, download the weapon mastery mod

plain river
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Fair enough

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I like to pretend I’m good at bow but my times are slow af

inner coral
vital night
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I’m just trying to think of who I would consider masters at a particular aspect

plain river
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Sub10 best time is not anywhere near mastery

willow fossil
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Hestia is def my least fav

inner coral
willow fossil
#

Nice

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I like rail for pew pew pew, hestia not pew pew enough for my taste

inner coral
willow fossil
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Yes indeed I do

vital night
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Explosive is so funny

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AP2 is fun

willow fossil
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I love it

ruby coral
willow fossil
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Of course you will mate

ruby coral
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lmao

vital night
#

Things that are fun: RR, AP2, Hestia

ruby coral
#

just tried it

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kinda tough

inner coral
willow fossil
#

Tried what

ruby coral
#

the friggin’ bow

willow fossil
#

It simply might not be your weapon

ruby coral
#

you need quadruple the energy to finish the game

willow fossil
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i guess?

vital night
#

What?

willow fossil
#

not sure what that meant

vital night
#

Also zagbow is super strong

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You have to be dash striking though

ruby coral
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but the cooldown is very high to shoot one arrow 😭

willow fossil
#

what

vital night
#

Not really 🤔

plain river
#

Did you see the clip

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That was at regular speed

#

that gif was at regular in game speed bouldy

ruby coral
#

So the idea is to be in close-counter right?

plain river
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The idea is both close counter and dash strike

ruby coral
#

Ah

vital night
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You don’t need to unless you have triple/explosive/point blank

plain river
#

It’s really more midrange without those hammers

ruby coral
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Yeah ig, a bit of training, and will get used to it

plain river
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You still want to full charge for power shot

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Unless you have explosive

vital night
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Just make sure you’re dash striking

ruby coral
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But i like slicing and dicing

willow fossil
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then play another weapon

willow fossil
#

new gif just dropped

vital night
worn solar
#

Real bouldy

tight basin
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lmfao

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same brain

vital night
#

exact same brain

rocky arrow
#

chaos special % doesn't affect boon damage on Rama, right?

vital night
plain river
rocky arrow
plain river
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It would be extremely broken otherwise

rocky arrow
#

Mhm, hangover would absolutely massacre lmao

plain river
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Merciful End would be way out of hand zagpls

vital night
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any soup build would be crazy

rocky arrow
#

what's the best hammers for hestia shotgun

plain river
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Ricochet, rocket bomb, cluster bomb, triple bomb, hazard, explosive, and piercing ib rouhjly that order? Include delta somewhere for iframes

worn solar
plain river
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delta gets a bit higher than flurry at least

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iframes are iframes

rocky arrow
#

okay thanks guys

worn solar
#

Does delta work on the empowered shot

plain river
worn solar
#

But does it give iframes to it while dash striking

plain river
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The burst is the powr shot + 2 regular ones

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Yes iirc

worn solar
#

Wait really it still shoots triple?

#

Yeah idk if ive ever taken delta on hestia lol

vital night
#

I don’t think hestia works like that

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You need to manually reload for the empowered shot

plain river
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But the shot is still 3 hits no? The empowered +2 regulars

long escarp
#

I’m 99% sure it isn’t

plain river
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Huh

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Maybe I’m cray cray

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Should still give you dash iframes

#

Spelling

long escarp
#

I don’t think it does

plain river
#

This is a formal apology on behalf of Shackles lawyers. Please ignore any misinformation spread about Hestia within the last half hour. He was eepy

worn solar
plain river
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(He also has maybe 4 clears total on hestia)

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Clearly a veteran

worn solar
#

Time to burn shackle

plain river
plain river
#

Is this what the young ‘uns mean by “cooked”

brisk adder
#

Achilles run, what's better out of triple jab, extended jab and flaring spin?

plain river
#

triple

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you don’t want to take any spin hammers on achilles

brisk adder
wary tiger
#

Whats the best sword abilities?

#

Ik there is a ranking between the hammer abilities

worn solar
wary tiger
#

I just started playing agaib

#

After a year and a hakf

wary tiger
#

Started new game

worn solar
#

Post the tierlist shackle bouldy

wary tiger
#

Still have my past 5000 dark elixir or what rver

#

But started over

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I was also told sowrd best weopon🙏🏽 especially if maxed out with tian blood no?

wary tiger
#

The whote sword or what ever

wary tiger
tight basin
wary tiger
#

Ingot double egde

wary tiger
#

Dont say sheild bruh

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Sheild is sooooooo💀😭

plain river
#

Bad news bears

wary tiger
#

Brain dead

plain river
tight basin
#

hate to break it to you buddy

wary tiger
#

Its sheild….

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💀😭

tight basin
#

but shield's got the best speedrun times and heat records lmao

plain river
#

Shield ain’t the best just because it can block though

wary tiger
#

ITS SO VEAIN DEAD

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BRAIN*😭

tight basin
#

well it's good for heat bc of the block but not for speed yeah

wary tiger
#

mhmm im not soing soeed runs tho

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So

static jacinth
#

Shield is best because it bonks.

wary tiger
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What u recomend then

plain river
#

Beyond that it’s whatever you like

worn solar
#

Shield is best because beowulf does 10 billion damage bouldy

static jacinth
#

It bonks and chonks and doesn't afraid of anything.

wary tiger
#

Sword good then?

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Lmfao

static jacinth
#

Every weapon is viable.

tight basin
#

it's like fine

worn solar
#

Idk im a zag bow and hestia rail stan bouldy

tight basin
#

i just wouldn't call it the best weapon lmao

plain river
#

Sword is fine

tight basin
#

sword, spear, and fists are considered bottom 3 and rail, shield, and bow are considered top 3

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but there's like wiggle room

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for various aspects

wary tiger
#

I hate bow, gun and cheild

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Lmfaoo

#

Spear fun lowkey

worn solar
#

Sword is good yes

plain river
#

Far from best weapon but you can’r really go wrong

tight basin
#

yeah sounds about right

wary tiger
#

Especially its abilities

static jacinth
#

Everything is good.

worn solar
#

Assuming you arent using the standing combo bouldy

wary tiger
#

Spesr had mt most fun with

static jacinth
#

I'm a Hestia Rail enthusiast.

plain river
#

You hate bow you say…

wary tiger
#

Yes

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I hate the way it attacks

#

Lmfaoo

plain river
#

Are you perhaps

#

Standing striking

tight basin
#

have you tried dash striking

plain river
wary tiger
tight basin
#

yeah

potent tree
wary tiger
#

No i spam dash attack and spam triangle especially with saord

tight basin
#

most people hate the bow bc they dont realize dash striking makes the bow charge faster

wary tiger
#

Im always movin

tight basin
#

and makes it a lot easier and better to play

wary tiger
#

Schmoovin

#

Mhmm spear?

#

Mhmmm

#

So the worst feeling guns r the best in the game?

#

W

potent tree
#

[insert weapon here] should dash-strike just about all the time

tight basin
#

ranged weapons, despite neary being played as melee weapons, are the strongest yeah lmao

jolly chasm
#

I fing knew it

tight basin
#

lmfao

wary tiger
#

Platnuim it

#

Lol

plain river
#

bow

tight basin
#

bow

plain river
jolly chasm
#

Zag bow

plain river
#

At refular speed

wary tiger
#

Bruh

#

😭

#

Bow feels so bad

jolly chasm
#

Anybody got a beo meg clip

tight basin
wary tiger
#

i didnt know there was a build fornit

tight basin
#

there's a build for everytihng lmao

wary tiger
#

I choose whatever sounds nice

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And looks good

#

Lmfaoo

tight basin
worn solar
#

Some times looker and killer better

static jacinth
#

The trick is to ignore the special on the bow unless it's Chiron or Rama aspect.

wary tiger
#

im using tempest strike, double nova battle rage and hunter dash rn

worn solar
#

nah we ignore chiron special here

static jacinth
wary tiger
#

Send me spear, bow, and sheild hvest abilities @plain river

jolly chasm
#

Chiron special is slow and clunky

wary tiger
plain river
static jacinth
#

It's fun for me, let me live;-;

jolly chasm
#

no

wary tiger
#

How can i send images

wary tiger
#

Btw?

static jacinth
#

I dash strike, I special. I dash strike, I special. I enjoy life.

#

It's how I got my second Heat 32 win.

jolly chasm
static jacinth
#

How do I purge StickyBot from reality?

tight basin
#

you could block it if you want i guess

wary tiger
#

I got 28 escape attempts 6000 total darkness and last i played was 05 june 2022

tight basin
#

idk if that would do anything meaningful tho

jolly chasm
#

Stickybot is nice tho

wary tiger
#

To be able to send images here?

jolly chasm
#

yes

worn solar
#

You dm the bot then copy the image link

wary tiger
#

How

#

What bot

jolly chasm
#

Stickybot works

wary tiger
#

What bot wait im lost bruh

tight basin
#

literally doesnt matter

worn solar
#

Sticky's dms are open bouldy

tight basin
#

bc what matters is that you send an image so you can copy the image link

plain river
wary tiger
#

Yall teollin

#

Trollin

#

😭💀

plain river
#

I just have my own server with me and Hellfire bot

worn solar
#

How do you think we're sending images bouldy

wary tiger
#

I gave to creatw a server?

worn solar
#

^ dm sticky bot

wary tiger
#

I did