dense basin
Makes sense for Zeus shield I suppose
#h1-builds-and-combat
potent tree
YW, David Martinez
cloud obsidian
Someone give me the run down on how to be OP in hades
Ive done 20 escape attempts and my thumb
silent pasture
What is the best fist aspect in your opinion?
tight basin
demeter
silent pasture
What does that do again
tight basin
kinda yes and no
beowulf is better
until you get to like 55 heat lmao
then zeus is better and more consistent
tight basin
prob beo or zag shield
before i stopped playing i was on a zag shield arc
got to 53 heat
silent pasture
My fav is Achilles spear
inner coral
How do i unlock the rest of the hidden aspects i have spear and sword
I spent 5 titan blood on shield upgrades and talked with chaos, but he just told me stuff about nyx
wary pumice
How do i unlock the rest of the hidden aspects i have spear and sword
have you max heart with chaos
frosty nimbus
Recently, I've put together some crappy (Achilles) Spear build, and completed the (only 13 heat) run in shock. Because I'm new to the game, and slow learner, It was an awful build. Expecting not to beat Hades, you guys ever complete a run with a build that suck?
uncut minnow
have you max heart with chaos
You don't need hearts with anyone for hidden aspects
thick abyss
does hook knives work properly with aspect of pan?
uncut minnow
proper furnace
What does curse of drowning do?
Ypu cast and instead of throwing flood shot it pulsates 3 times in AoE with zag as the center
winged charm
Ypu cast and instead of throwing flood shot it pulsates 3 times in AoE with zag ...
Does the pulse inflict doom or just knockback?
proper furnace
Just dmg, don't think it knockbacks either
icy nacelle
prob beo or zag shield
😮 why zag shield?
icy nacelle
got to 53 heat
oh wow
still why zag tho
for having Flame Wheels Release appear on Elysium?
proper furnace
Charged shot is just fun
And that +15 on normal attack adds up a bit over the run
winged charm
Do you ever just
Have an insane Hera build and forget to switch your keepsake for your fight against Dad?
winged charm
Nah I think should be fine
winged charm
just adds a few seconds in p2p2
I was going to add skull earring for extra oomph
vagrant crane
wat
winged charm
Nah I think should be fine
I have a really good Hera build rn tho
vagrant crane
what is it
winged charm
just adds a few seconds in p2p2
Oh sorry I think your talking about something else lol-
vagrant crane
yeah i had assumed you would use dad call
winged charm
what is it
Lvl 8 rare crush shot with Mirage cast and 54% cast dmg increase
I think I’m gonna cook
vagrant crane
do u have any extra stones
vagrant crane
its ok but i think u need a decent bit more dmg for a fast dad
winged charm
Hopefully it has extra stones
vagrant crane
idk what the thresholds are on hera
winged charm
However I do have 20% chance for Artemis boons to be rare or better
Maybe Artemis gives me fully loaded XD
vagrant crane
you took arty into ely?
winged charm
I took arty into ely bc I couldn’t get them into my pool during reg game and I needed to get mirage shot
vagrant crane
u dont need mirage
on hera
on hera just default to hourglass into ely every time
winged charm
u dont need mirage
Really? It’s not that great?
vagrant crane
its ok
winged charm
If so honestly I could drop it bc it’s so hard to get
winged charm
Bc I usually never find Artemis naturally I have to use the keepsake
Bc by then I filled up my pool
winged charm
Which sucks bc then yeah
winged charm
and u rlly want to keep ur pommables low on hera
Tho honestly Poms were really favoring me rn
Bc I only kept getting crush shot
And had sweet nectar duo
winged charm
Tho honestly Poms were really favoring me rn
But I had little pommables
Wasn’t depending on special and attack not really just focusing on cast
winged charm
Just dmg, don't think it knockbacks either
Dang that’s actually worse then regular flood shot
If doesn’t knockback
tight basin
oh wow
charged shot funny
It's just easy to use and requires like the least amount of brain to play at high heat imo
icy nacelle
It's just easy to use and requires like the least amount of brain to play at hig...
how do you manage dc2 with zag shield tho
tight basin
Less brain and less technical skill imo compared to other popular high heat aspects
Hit them twice lmao
tight basin
Enemy grouping is pretty big
tight basin
you make it sound easy
I mean unironically there isn't much to getting around dc2 other than that lmao
icy nacelle
maybe with zeus attack boon and storm lightning...
proper furnace
Pushing enemies to others is legit good for mass dc stripping lol
Or grab a dash boon
vagrant crane
shoot into wall
tight basin
maybe with zeus attack boon and storm lightning...
You won't be making good use of the base 80 cshot tho
icy nacelle
I mean unironically there isn't much to getting around dc2 other than that lmao
in any case, do you use a % boon or a flat boon for attack?
tight basin
Aphro all the way
icy nacelle
You won't be making good use of the base 80 cshot tho
oh right you take cshot
oh speaking of aphro and flat damage boons...
i have a small suggestion for fists on 32 heat
it should theoretically be really good on specifically talos
tight basin
Heavy knuckle aphro attack?
icy nacelle
...maybe i should mention it after i actually clear 32 heat with it but eh
icy nacelle
Heavy knuckle aphro attack?
nah, aphro special and curse of vengeance for dio attack
instead of aphro dash and ares special
again, this is for only talos
winged charm
Anyway to be or get faster with Hera???
vagrant crane
winged charm
Like just increase movement??
I really like the damage Hera is giving me but it’s slower then Achilles by a lot
Couldn’t even dodge against dad
Got him down to second phase then clapped by the little energy green ring blast
Btw highest crush shot I’ve ever gotten in this run
Lvl 11
icy nacelle
thats the normal way to do that
well, not according to Bananas's guide
silver patrol
Does dodging count as being hit so the God gauge can fill faster? Or only when we take damage
sour pewter
How much damage can the pierced butterly give ya once fully leveled up. If you manage not to get hit till you reach hades?
It gives a 2% damage buff per room you finish as long as you don't take damage in that room.
vital night
It’s really not worth yeah
tight basin
nah, aphro special and curse of vengeance for dio attack
instead of aphro dash ...
Talos special kinda sucks lmao
You'd rather have aphro dash
icy nacelle
Talos special kinda sucks lmao
to be honest, you're right
but getting aphro special instead of dash lets you grab a more useful dash (coughs in athena)
tight basin
True but you could also get a more useful attack at that point lmao
If you're gonna be going for curse of vengeance and a special which you're only using to open duos basically you might as well go lightning strike and jolted
Which the only hard part is finding another Zeus boon lmao
silver patrol
but getting aphro special instead of dash lets you grab a more useful dash (coug...
There is logic behind which perks you get?
icy nacelle
well, yeah
unless that was a subtle diss to my crystal clarity obsession,
yeah ofc specific boons are better for specific weapons
and some boons unlock some other boons and you need to get those as a prerequisite
icy nacelle
If you're gonna be going for curse of vengeance and a special which you're only ...
mmm, you're probably right
i like dio attack more because i can actually see wtf i'm doing (and the hit-and-run style) but zeus is surely faster
late wasp
what's a good build with the Gilgamesh aspect
vital night
merciful end
icy nacelle
what's a good build with the Gilgamesh aspect
Curse of Agony, Divine Flourish, Divine Dash, Impending Doom, Merciful End
Take Greatest Reflex and Hyper Sprint from Hermes
vital night
or tdash and ignore everything else
icy nacelle
or tdash and ignore everything else
yeah this also works
Tidal Dash + Razor Shoals + Breaking Wave + Wave Pounding + Typhoon's Fury
you can take Thunder Strike (edit: and Poseidon's Aid) on top of it and shoot for Sea Storm
tight basin
You'd need another pos core for that
You'd rather have lightning reflexes into jolted
icy nacelle
You'd need another pos core for that
i mean, true, but pos call (+ rip current) synergizes well with boons that support Tidal Dash
lightning reflexes into jolted (static discharge) is also good tho 
honestly, tidal dash not unlocking sea storm and divine dash not unlocking merciful end are two loads of bs
proper furnace
Those two were specific nerfs lmao
You can guess why
(deadly reversal got caught in the crossfire imo tho)
late wasp
Yeah I know tidal dash is especially good on gilgamesh
maybe Athena Attack and Ares Special since I kind of want tidal dash?
proper furnace
Either do the ME build or do tidal dash
Combining them won't feel great
Harder to proc ME and have to pom a lot of things now
icy nacelle
yeah exactly
choose one and stick with it
ME build without divine dash is frankly not good
late wasp
well I started a run and immediately got a rare poseidon dash. I guess I know which to do
icy nacelle
ez
inner coral
What are good calls? Aphrodite Artemis and Poseidon are the ones I usually aim for, are they good?
late wasp
and then wasnt there a good build with the Guan Yu special?
late wasp
What are good calls? Aphrodite Artemis and Poseidon are the ones I usually aim f...
Zeus and Dio are also really good IIRC
turbid needle
Curse of Agony, Divine Flourish, Divine Dash, Impending Doom, Merciful End
Take...
Gilgamesh already gives +2 dashes though, no? Wouldn't greatest reflex be kinda useless.
proper furnace
What are good calls? Aphrodite Artemis and Poseidon are the ones I usually aim f...
Artemis/aphro are kind of meh due to needing full charge for their dmg
But yeah zeus/dio are pretty good
Spammable, have a lot of ways to increase the dmg too
inner coral
Ok ty will try their call then
lucid oar
Gilgamesh already gives +2 dashes though, no? Wouldn't greatest reflex be kinda ...
More dashes means more DPS
Just because you have 4 already doesn’t make greatest reflex useless
Hyper sprint + rush delivery is the better combo though
pine torrent
What are good calls? Aphrodite Artemis and Poseidon are the ones I usually aim f...
zeus and poseidon are the best, also if u have the keepsake from|| hades that call is good ||
icy nacelle
More dashes means more DPS
exactly this
inner coral
zeus and poseidon are the best, also if u have the keepsake from|| hades that ca...
Ok ty, hi btw
pine torrent
Ok ty, hi btw
hi 
icy nacelle
i disagree with zeus being the best call
sure it deals the most damage out of every call
but it's not safe
i also mostly aim for aphro arty pos demeter or athena
proper furnace
All calls give iframes on activation
Athena is solid cuz at least you keep your actual buikd
winged charm
i disagree with zeus being the best call
Zeus has best case use
Like pos imo
And the damage is just there
proper furnace
Like what does it mean by +3 base damage
Each arrow does 10 base dmg
With conc each arrow that hits it gains +3
So 10, 13, 16, 19...
knotty sigil
please help me i want to get this final titan blood on this Achilles cast run and i want to know which cast to use?
winged charm
please help me i want to get this final titan blood on this Achilles cast run an...
Crush shot
or Trippy Lob for far range
Crush shot works in like every situation tho
proper furnace
I'd do ares
winged charm
You need hunting blades tho for it to really bring out the full power
I’d say it’s easier to do a high level crush shot build and then special
Special cast special cast
knotty sigil
i should be using the alt soul skill right?
proper furnace
Not worth in most cases
If chaos doesn't collaborate 1 stone feels awful
Only do stygian with beams/trippy shot
knotty sigil
but how would i get the crystals back they get stuck in there for a long time on bosses
winged charm
Beams is good with triple tho deals a lot of damage faster
winged charm
but how would i get the crystals back they get stuck in there for a long time on...
Okay so
You can hunt for Hermes to get quick reload
Regular is 5 seconds which is already decent but rare is 3.3 and epic is 2.5
proper furnace
Yeah if you do lodging casts you want quick reload
winged charm
I think you can actually with crush shot
Like shoot close but not super close
And it deals damage and the casts drops
proper furnace
Oh yeah wallbug exists
I don't remember if you can do it w/o hera tho
Maybe with blown kiss?
winged charm
Yeah you need blown kiss for it to work with Hera
winged charm
Like shoot close but not super close
Zag needs to be a step away
knotty sigil
hera?
winged charm
It’s a aspect where you can load your casts into a bow
All of them hit at the same time
proper furnace
Yeah you need blown kiss for it to work with Hera
Do you mean without
winged charm
I mean
winged charm
For that crush shot trick on Hera you need blown kiss for it to work
proper furnace
You don't
jolly chasm
No, you can wallbug without blownkiss
winged charm
Oh-
proper furnace
Blown kiss is actually bad with flurry shot
Cuz the hitbox of the cast goes past the enemy
W/o flurry you can just underdshoot the arrow
Once you take flurry is jank time
limber monolith
Oh you guys are talking about Hades 2 lol
knotty sigil
so once i get the aphro cast what else would i want to do?
proper furnace
Oh you guys are talking about Hades 2 lol
Hera aspect of the bow
limber monolith
Ohhhh
winged charm
Either way you don’t really need something like that cause most foes die in one hit
With crush shot
jolly chasm
proper furnace
so once i get the aphro cast what else would i want to do?
Quick reload for bosses really
winged charm
If you watch dad fight you can see a wallbug without blown kiss
Thank you
knotty sigil
i don't like how much damage this does
winged charm
so once i get the aphro cast what else would i want to do?
Blown kiss optional too
winged charm
i don't like how much damage this does
Crush shot?
knotty sigil
yeah
winged charm
It deals a good amount highest after Trippy Lob
proper furnace
Peak speedrun builds kinda disgusting in a fun way
winged charm
Just upgrade your spear bc there’s a fall off for crush shot after 5 lvl ups
knotty sigil
no it's too much
winged charm
Peak speedrun builds kinda disgusting in a fun way
Lmao
proper furnace
Just upgrade your spear bc there’s a fall off for crush shot after 5 lvl ups
I mean what else you gonna upgrade
Tidal dash if you find it ig
jolly chasm
Peak speedrun builds kinda disgusting in a fun way
The Croven 4:39 build is super disgusting
limber monolith
I never really optimized. I just go for vibe normally, but now that i attempt 32 heat my ways get me into trouble lol
winged charm
Also @knotty sigil
knotty sigil
hm?
winged charm
Mirage shot works really well too
proper furnace
I never really optimized. I just go for vibe normally, but now that i attempt 32...
You can pretty much vibe in 32 too lol
Unless the pact is kinda bad
jolly chasm
Hades really is a vibe based game
winged charm
Okay so
@knotty sigil
Get the crush shot first in Tartarus with Aphrodite keepsake
knotty sigil
i'm here
winged charm
Then your gonna hunt for Artemis or Poseidon or both
limber monolith
Unless the pact is kinda bad
Well I make changes based on which weapon I use but I think my pact is semi alright
winged charm
If you can get Poseidon first the better
vagrant crane
the crush shot achilles guide
- dont take crush shot
winged charm
If you don’t then In asphodel switch to Poseidon keep sake and get tidal dash or strike (good for keeping the foes away)
vagrant crane
the everything guide
- dont take pos atk
jolly chasm
I feel like Achilles crush shot is just build like hera but do less damage
vagrant crane
nope
limber monolith
If you use bow you may as well use crush shot
vagrant crane
it does not do that
proper furnace
I feel like Achilles crush shot is just build like hera but do less damage
What no burst does to someone
winged charm
Like the crush shot is good on Achilles wym lol
knotty sigil
ok
vagrant crane
its not
winged charm
You can easily deal 1k per hit with mirage cast and pommed up crush shot and high lvl Achilles aspect
vagrant crane
cumbersome and opens duos u dont want
jolly chasm
It's okay
winged charm
Then what cast would you choose?
jolly chasm
It has very little burst as you have to stand there for like a min to get all the cast out
winged charm
There trying to do a cast build
winged charm
It has very little burst as you have to stand there for like a min to get all th...
The cast is strong and you can just zip past a foe lol
vagrant crane
hunting blades
winged charm
With the special
winged charm
hunting blades
That’s good but it requires a duo for it to work well
vagrant crane
no it doenst
jolly chasm
I like athena cast on Achilles and then go for LP
winged charm
Eh
winged charm
I like athena cast on Achilles and then go for LP
Only works well with lighting phalanx
but I do like HB
can’t deny
jolly chasm
It kinda falls off in the dad fight, but that's more of an Achilles problem
winged charm
but I haven’t used PS enough
winged charm
Ares
If you know what you are doing is not hard to get duos
So should they go ares or crush shot?
proper furnace
Ares
winged charm
Personally I feel crush shot works better in more situations
jolly chasm
Jazz, does Achilles have a sub-30 dad?
winged charm
Ares only lasts 3.3 seconds then you got to wait the cast to die for a bit then pick it up
Well if he does then
knotty sigil
dio is offering a heroic replacement to my crush shot
jolly chasm
no
vagrant crane
no wait it deos
winged charm
@knotty sigil
winged charm
dio is offering a heroic replacement to my crush shot
Kinda fire
knotty sigil
imma do it
jolly chasm
pls don't take
vagrant crane
bosses sheet closed again
proper furnace
W/o infernal is gonna be annoying
knotty sigil
i got the quick cast
proper furnace
*stygian
winged charm
I think it’s fun but it’s prob not the beauty
brisk adder
What's the best keepsake to pair with aspect of Arthur?
jolly chasm
What's the best keepsake to pair with aspect of Arthur?
Prob Pos start for tidal dash
tight basin
Dio cast as a build core kinda ass without stygian
winged charm
It’s not the worse but it’s not the best either
tight basin
But you already have the best with crush shot
jolly chasm
It might be the worst actually
brisk adder
Prob Pos start for tidal dash
So the conch shell thing?
tight basin
So don't replace lmao
jolly chasm
So the conch shell thing?
yeah
winged charm
Fun dmg but yeah it’s prob not yhe best
knotty sigil
i might have made a series of incorrect dashes
into some chariots
and spearmen
after taking the hammer that lowers your dash range
proper furnace
Serrated moment
brisk adder
yeah
If you don't mind me asking? I know it's down to rng but what gods and boons would be best for Arthur?
winged charm
Serrated moment
Serrated can be good
jolly chasm
If you don't mind me asking? I know it's down to rng but what gods and boons wou...
Yeah, no problem! I'm def not an expert but on Arthur, the three main gods are Zeus, Arty, and Posidean. The only god who I think should be avoided is Ares. For Zeus, Zeus call is one the strongest boons in the game so look out for that, and if you are on Infernal Soul and have Arty attack (best attack on Arthur) you can get ROD(Arty and Zeus duo). Other ideas on Arthur include Epic Demeter attack into Ice Wine(Dio cast into Demeter and Dio Duo), Athena cast into LP, and Aphro attack of rare or higher I would take even if Arty is in the god pool
brisk adder
Yeah, no problem! I'm def not an expert but on Arthur, the three main gods are Z...
Thank you! What's infernal soul and what do LP and RD mean?
jolly chasm
Also Hermes is the same, hyper sprint into RD or plus dashes is best
proper furnace
Yeah, no problem! I'm def not an expert but on Arthur, the three main gods are Z...
Ice wine btw
jolly chasm
Rd is rush delivery which grants bonus damage for percent movement speed
LP is lightning Phalanx which is the Zeus and Athena Duo that causes Athena's cast to bounce a round the room
brisk adder
Ah gotcha, thank you so much!
icy nacelle
can sea storm trigger on bosses?
proper furnace
There's even a weird bug with breaking wave on dad
Where it triggers way too often in like a second
icy nacelle
Yeah
then rip current + quick favor + sea storm + last stand bailed me out of a failed 32 heat run from hades
proper furnace
There's even a weird bug with breaking wave on dad
icy nacelle
man, i had doubted myself after arguing with people more experienced than me about how good rip current is
i'm so glad that rip current is still carrying me at 32 heat
proper furnace
Rip current is a lot of fun
icy nacelle
it's almost as good as crystal clarity
icy nacelle
https://www.vxreddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/s/w95gWOgE6g
WHAT THE- AHAHAHHAHAHAHA
jolly chasm
Rip current is funny but not great
proper furnace
WHAT THE- AHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Someday I'll learn how to replicate it
jolly chasm
I think this happened to Zyru once
proper furnace
Would be the 3rd or 4th case I've seen of it
icy nacelle
i can't even tell when breaking wave is triggering in this one
proper furnace
How did that do enough knockback to trigger beaver
And how did zyru ended up with pos strike
icy linden
Discord was bugged and is showing me I'm in the correct channel lol, sorryy
mystic pagoda
Any builds that use aphrodite and poseidon? I need to farm them for legendary boons
worn solar
Any builds that use aphrodite and poseidon? I need to farm them for legendary bo...
Hestia + tidal dash and aphro attack ig. Thats pretty much all you need so you can just pick whatever and go for the legendaries
mystic pagoda
bet
tight basin
can Heart Rend trigger on non-Artemis crits?
yes
they just need to have weak for the crits to be chunky
brisk adder
What aspect is good for a quick play style? Like quick attacks and stuff? So far I've been using aspect of nemesis but want to branch out to other weapons (currently using Arthur and am enjoying but want to try different weapons)
brave sierra
what build should i use for aspect of zeus
stone belfry
does aspect of guan yu just suck or are there good boons for it?
proper furnace
Charged skewer makes it a bow pretty much
brisk adder
If you have a choice between Charon's gold and a boon do you go for the boon?
vagrant crane
well it depends
if it’s from a god you want to see then go for it
but you have to keep your pool in mind
stone belfry
If you have a choice between Charon's gold and a boon do you go for the boon?
depending on the boon. but honestly i ussually never go for gold unless i really really dont need my toher option
alternatively i also dont use charons shop until the one just before the hades fight
vagrant crane
gold is almost an insta lock vs heart
gold is better than a boon that would be bad for your build
brisk adder
Athena
vagrant crane
and in certain scenarios can be better than a pom
stone belfry
gold is better than a boon that would be bad for your build
always keep this in mind fr
brisk adder
Still figuring out which boons/gods are best for each weapon
stone belfry
thats where im at with the spear rn
brisk adder
what build/aspect
On this run I'm currently using Arthur, have Zeus, Poseidon and Athena, maybe an Aphrodite boon too
vagrant crane
if u already have an attack then i’m not sure what athena would do for you
stone belfry
if your other athena boon is your dash you could get expose for it by grabbing another athena boon
brisk adder
I got the unshakeable mettle duo
brisk adder
I have Poseidon for attack, special and dash, Athena cast and Zeus call
vagrant crane
oh
icy nacelle
yeah brilliant riposte just outclasses "exposed" boon
vagrant crane
why do you have that
stone belfry
for the sake of rng if you get stuck with an athena boon its definitely worth having the extra status, for me personally
icy nacelle
and brilliant riposte isn't even that good
vagrant crane
if that means you’re running pstatus then don’t do that
brisk adder
if that means you’re running pstatus then don’t do that
I don't know what that means sorry, still very new to the game
stone belfry
why not run status?
icy nacelle
why not run status?
family favorite is more consistent
potent tree
Takes relatively forever per enemy to activate, requires you to contort your build to fit two statuses in many cases, and isn't significantly stronger than Family Favorite
jolly chasm
Family favorites is more consistent and Pstatus is harder to setup
icy nacelle
that's actually a lot, wow
but still, family favorite is better most of the time cuz of consistency
but like
if you like pstatus better, take pstatus
potent tree
It's not a lot. It's 40% additive (and conditional) vs FF's 25-30% additive (always active)
jolly chasm
^
vagrant crane
if it’s not on a main button you have to press a weird button
icy nacelle
don't let the general consensus constrain your builds too hard
for example, nearly everybody will say crystal clarity or rip current are pretty bad
yet i'm clearing 32 heat left and right with those
cuz i like them more
vagrant crane
yea u can do whatever u want at low heat but it’s not gonna be effective
stone belfry
understandable, ive been opening my playstyle up a lil more lately, thats just what ive ran forever. usually an attack and a dash for statuses depending on the weapon
vagrant crane
like you can still do it
jolly chasm
Is impressive but still anything really works for it
potent tree
Yeah. You can definitely have fun with certain options, but it's undebateable that some things are less optimal than other things
stone belfry
Yeah. You can definitely have fun with certain options, but it's undebateable th...
this
icy nacelle
yep
jolly chasm
understandable, ive been opening my playstyle up a lil more lately, thats just w...
Just for curiosities sake, what dashes do you use?
icy nacelle
i've been wondering that too
stone belfry
Just for curiosities sake, what dashes do you use?
usually Dionysus prreferably
cant spell rip
jolly chasm
Dio dash?
icy nacelle
dio dash is literally my least favorite dash lol
proper furnace
Nasty dash mentioned
jolly chasm
Yeah, dio dash is certainly a dash that can be picked
icy nacelle
ok how the hell
icy nacelle
It saved me a 50 rama
i really wanna hear the story behind this
stone belfry
ight i just bought a key what do we think i should do to my mirror, imma try out some of yalls suggestions cause clearly my eyes have yet to be opened
proper furnace
ap2 moment
proper furnace
ight i just bought a key what do we think i should do to my mirror, imma try out...
Check #h1-for-new-players pinned messages for that
dapper citrus
what's ap2
proper furnace
Whatever we recommend for mirror is just there lol
proper furnace
what's ap2
-2 boon choices
winged charm
How to get better at mobile controls faster?
I can’t seem to dash strike at the same time
I kinda have to claw my fingers around it
winged charm
I can’t seem to dash strike at the same time
Which kinda sucks
proper furnace
I think I've seen someone put the dash and attack icon in the same place
Ofc that kills your iframes
winged charm
Wait you can swap it???
winged charm
Ofc that kills your iframes
It’s just for dash striking with bow
Bc I’m trying to get spear fast
winged charm
Wait you can swap it???
You can move the icon???
proper furnace
Wait you can swap it???
@uneven basalt you did this right
proper furnace
Wait you can swap it???
Pretty sure yeah, but I don't have mobile to tell you where
winged charm
Alright I’ll look
plain river
Ofc that kills your iframes
I’d probably just overlap them atp
So you still have an option to empty dash for iframes
(Not a mobile gamer here either
brisk adder
Is cursed sword any good in the lower heats?
jolly chasm
Cursed slash is a weak hammer due to it only working on attack, while the attack pattern on sword is DS-DS-special repeat, so it is basically just a 60% health reduction
brisk adder
Cursed slash is a weak hammer due to it only working on attack, while the attack...
Ah that makes sense, it helped me clear my first run so went for it again but have noticed a big drop off in it's benefits since I've gotten better and ds more. Thank you for explaining
plain river
Is cursed sword any good in the lower heats?
it's better when you don't know what you're doing, get hit often and standing strike often
as soon as you get the hang of sword you realise that it's not the greatest
cloud obsidian
Any advice on a good build in Hades? I’m looking for just powerful damage rather than high defense. I just don’t know what darkness buffs to spend and also what bloom combinations work well. Does upgrading weapon also have something to do with it? Because I still can’t upgrade weapons and I have like 5 titan blood already
tight basin
some aspects dont need a lot of blood to work well, some do
there's a bunch of builds pinned in this channel
cloud obsidian
How do you upgrade weapons? I don’t understand why I still can’t see that still
tight basin
have you unlocked all the weapons yet and did a run
plain river
How do you upgrade weapons? I don’t understand why I still can’t see that still
you need to have all the weapons for that
cloud obsidian
Does it just randomly show up?
plain river
so
you can only unlock that once you have all 6 weapons and have jumped into a run and died
cloud obsidian
have you unlocked all the weapons yet and did a run
I’ve unlocked every weapon except gun, trying to save to 30 keys
cloud obsidian
you can only unlock that once you have all 6 weapons and have jumped into a run ...
You’re kidding, BRUHHHHHH
plain river
I mean
it does segment the info you take in
learning how boons work -> learning how different weapons work -> dang now I can upgrade my weapons
cloud obsidian
I think the 30 keys boosts damage if you invest Darkness into it
cloud obsidian
learning how boons work -> learning how different weapons work -> dang now I can...
It’s between sword and spear. I vibe with both weapons
tight basin
the last part of the mirror helps with getting better builds more consistently
plain river
Any advice on a good build in Hades? I’m looking for just powerful damage rather...
builds are really dependent on your weapon of choice. I can give you a good build with any weapon, but I'd rather
hand it to you for what you want
cloud obsidian
the last part of the mirror helps with getting better builds more consistently
Yeah that sounds important
tight basin
you can still get builds pretty consistently without them tho
they're just like nice
cloud obsidian
Do I use my gems to only buy keys for now?
plain river
Any advice on a good build in Hades? I’m looking for just powerful damage rather...
general build tips for weapons are: if it's strong and slower, you put +% boons on it (Ie. bow strike gets aphrodites +50% strike boon)
if it's faster and weaker, it's going to do a lot better with flat damage (zeus, dionysus, ares)
it gets more intricate with how gods interact with each other and how the boons actually function but it's a good enough start
when I say strong and weak I mean purely by the # of base damage it does. Strong base damage doesn’t mean it’s functionally strong, and vice versa with weak
fresh dragon
As a new player, I’ve found that doing your own testing with these slow / percentage & fast / additive boons and looking into what pairings can really accentuate your weapon adds to a lot of fun in making a build
Just today I found a way to make Doom work on the Chiron Bow; you’ll need Dire Misfortune (preferably a good rarity) Curse of Longing and Impending Doom to get it going, with Aphro attack of course, but I found a lot of success with an unorthodox build
plain river
As a new player, I’ve found that doing your own testing with these slow / percen...
I think you'll find you have just as much success if you dump curse of longing btw
unless you gameplay has been to hit enemies with a single chiron special and run away
because otherwise curse of longing doesn't do anything realy
tight basin
chiron special is so slow that the doom will drop a second time before the 2nd volley reaches
plain river
with impending doom?
tight basin
that's not true but it's just funny to say
you'd probably get another drop between attacks to reset the target
but yeah dire misfortune chiron is a meme build
vital night
it would be funny if the doom timer reset when re applied
uneven basalt
<@1126084548061581382> you did this right
yeah sorry i'm late @winged charm you can move them around and change their size and put them on top of each other, if you can do dash strikes without layering them, do that bc otherwise you get no iframes but it might be too difficult/slow (you can do that under controls)
forest drum
when it says raging rush post damage is that talking about the recall?
tight basin
to activate raging rush you have "rush" to where you threw the spear
and it buffs your attack and cast
so just hit your special button twice and you'll get the buff
if you use your special and then hit attack, it'll recall the spear, which doesnt give you the buff
forest drum
so if I q q and get the buff how long does it last?
tight basin
4 attacks/casts
forest drum
that's pretty good
tight basin
the buff doesnt stack so you have to use all your charges before you "refresh" the counter
but doesnt really matter since it's easy to have 100% uptime on it
forest drum
is that probably the best spear? I've been using zag but I feel like this one is just better
tight basin
yeah it's the best spear for most things
guan yu is better at heat but needs the correct hammer more so than achilles
prime gale
Raging rush feels like a teleport
vital night
is that probably the best spear? I've been using zag but I feel like this one is...
Zag is the worst spear tbh
And potentially the worst zag aspect
inner coral
Hades spear ftw, i have never tried a cast build…
What cast build is easy to get right boons and strong so i can practice casting?
pine torrent
idk about easy but hunting blades is pretty good for a cast build
icy nacelle
What cast build is easy to get right boons and strong so i can practice casting?
crystal clarity is very easy
and easy to get
winged charm
yeah sorry i'm late <@901293058962915339> you can move them around and change th...
Yeah thank you! I found out the option in the settings
proper furnace
candid stone
oh lol didnt see i had press on the hades 1 build chat, sorry ^^
proper furnace
(pls delete the message too)
candid stone
(pls delete the message too)
proper furnace
Ty
winged charm
What triggers bad news?
proper furnace
What triggers bad news?
Auto reload/plume
winged charm
Winter harvest?
And Fully Loaded?
Last 3 to complete the prophecy lol but I have no idea how to trigger them
winged charm
Auto reload/plume
Ah okay
proper furnace
winged charm
Thx
proper furnace
Do you have the codex upgrade btw
winged charm
Yeah I think
proper furnace
Remember to use it mid runs for the boon list 
winged charm
Oh I do have it then lol
winged charm
Remember to use it mid runs for the boon list <:dusa:522248771409543188>
I will
drowsy lark
kinda wanna do an aphrodite call sweet nectar build
use her call to make the elysium bosses kill each other
potent tree
Charm doesn't last long enough on bosses to make that viable 
tight basin
the bosses also dont deal that much damage to each other iirc
drowsy lark
i just just thinkin usin it while asterius spins so it auto targets
just when hes spinnin tho
potent tree
It's remarkably difficult to get him to spin into Theseus
drowsy lark
but its not impossible >:)
fresh dragon
Aphro Call is rather weak either way, so if you wanted to try this the best way to apply tons of Charm would be to get Smoldering Air, plus Poseidons boon that lets you build up god gauge when getting hit, that way you can effectively spam charm and potentially get some stuff like Sea Storm going if you have a good weapon with Poseidon on Attack plus some decent Zeus stuff
proper furnace
Just do zeus attack instead
fresh dragon
Zeus attack works too
drowsy lark
is smoldering air a duo boon?
tight basin
yeah
drowsy lark
ive never seen it before
drowsy lark
does it work with aphro call?
drowsy lark
It’s not good but if you’re going for the Charm meme build
thats exactly what im goin for
what weapon would it work best with?
fresh dragon
Chiron Bow, Demeter Gloves
tight basin
or achilles if you can get flurry jab
fresh dragon
Nemesis sword
tight basin
anything that's good with a zeus core
drowsy lark
i can def get flurry jab
drowsy lark
so what would my fundamental main boons like atk wise, cast wise, special wise, and dash wise
tight basin
considering you're going for aphrodite call smair
well actually waht aspect are you gonna do
drowsy lark
prob achilles i dont have demeter gloves or eris aspect and chiron is hard to use on mobile
tight basin
zeus attack, aphro call, get static discharge sometime
tidal dash for damage
going for a cast build prob isnt as feasible since you're already going for a duo and getting 2 isnt easy
drowsy lark
i should start off with aphro keepsake right if im lucky enough to get it lol
tight basin
but if you want you can get athena's cast for lightning phalanx
tight basin
i should start off with aphro keepsake right if im lucky enough to get it lol
first boon isnt gonna give you call unless you roll for it
so just start with zeus attack
3/4 to get that
drowsy lark
so zues keepsake?
tight basin
yeah
brisk adder
Is cold embrace any good?
drowsy lark
for a demeter cast run/meme build maybe
solemn spindle
When using the +2 power per hit modifier I didn't see any change per damage tik after consecutive hits. Is this a bug or does it only proc with multipliers or something?
drowsy lark
im unsure might proc with multipliers only
proper furnace
When using the +2 power per hit modifier I didn't see any change per damage tik ...
Is this for hades 2
solemn spindle
Ah yes sorry wrong channel?
proper furnace
Yeah
solemn spindle
My bad
proper furnace
solemn spindle
<#1233146182835114035>
Ty
limpid kestrel
Any tips for using sword? I feel like just doing dash-strike xN > special doesn't let me get a lot of hits in, also it's probably the only weapon where I keep losing all my revives on random places
Last run I lost all of them on Asphodel then got lucky with a refill in Elysium, then went back to either losing them all again either on Styx or against ||Hades|| then dying to him
Has been like that for the last... 10 runs or so
proper furnace
#h2-feedback (pls delete)
calm island
Thanks i Will correct.
plain river
Last run I lost all of them on Asphodel then got lucky with a refill in Elysium,...
Dash strike 2x and then specialling should be hitting faster and for more base damage than standing striking, regardless of feel
plain river
My experience with the weapon is the sword itself feels a bit unwieldy, not enough to merit not using it, but enough that it’s not one of my favourite weapons. Having done a crap load of runs with it, dash striking vs not dash striking is a huge difference
limpid kestrel
Using dpad because my left stick is drifting a lot, so I had to disable it
limpid kestrel
So dashstriking with sword for me looks like I'm dashing to a single direction
Then correcting with the special
plain river
dash striking twice usually relies on your ability to turn around quick
plain river
I can imagine
limpid kestrel
At least I got lucky with getting Athena's dash on Tartarus
So it was smooth sailing from there
plain river
Tbh I can’t imagine any weapons feeling good with dpad controls
That sounds like agony
limpid kestrel
Guess it depends on the dpad, rail and spear feel good
Shield feels kinda bad but not as bad as sword and bow feels weird
You have to rely on autoaim a lot for precision
plain river
rail is rail you’re relying on autoaim enough for nonspecial
As a huge bow fan I would die
plain river
Shield feels kinda bad but not as bad as sword and bow feels weird
Have you thrown your hand at fists yet?
I’m only mentioning it because it’s the only one you didn’t
limpid kestrel
Oh right, didn't mention it
It feels exactly the same
I'd say any weapon that requires careful aiming (sword/bow) will feel a tad awkward on dpad
frosty reef
What build should I got for the 32 pact of punishment, ive tried several times with different builds with the fists but havent even made it to the second phase of the final boss, I tired with the ar focusing on the dmg from the special, but got demolished in his third phase
vital night
What build should I got for the 32 pact of punishment, ive tried several times w...
Pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
brisk adder
Trying out Eris for the first time and got a hammer with cluster bomb, triple bomb and targeting system. Which is the best?
plain river
Trying out Eris for the first time and got a hammer with cluster bomb, triple bo...
Cluster
70%*5 is 350% base damage when all hit
Triple is just 300% base damage and targetting system is global additive to enemies underneath the specisl
Cluster > Triple > Targetting system
Plus cluster has more synergistic effects with rocket bomb then triple bomb does
plain river
Plus cluster has more synergistic effects with rocket bomb then triple bomb does
(Rocket bomb ignores the reduced base damage, so it’s just 80*5 for 400 base damage compared to 80*3=240 for triple
brisk adder
Thank you!
plain river
Also 5 rockets is just more area and more hits for anything that cares about that (extra chilled stacks, more area getting deflected, etc)
Wrong channrl
plain river
oh wrong game sorry
Yeah, I literally cannot decipher any of those heiroglyphs
So I don’t think you’d find much help here
I didn’t mean to come off as rude if I did
brisk adder
Heroic drunken flourish or epic deadly flourish?
plain river
Heroic drunken flourish or epic deadly flourish?
What aspect
brisk adder
Eris sorry should have mentioned
plain river
Without a question it’d deadly flourish
Rail special is not something you want to put flat damage on
brisk adder
Without a question it’d deadly flourish
I thought so too, thank you!
brisk adder
Rail special is not something you want to put flat damage on
What are the advantages of rail weapons? What makes them so good?
plain river
What are the advantages of rail weapons? What makes them so good?
wdym
plain river
rail is one of the weapons that has the most
uniquely possibly builds for it
so they could be coming from any of that
every base rail can take cluster bomb and/or triple bomb, add rocket bomb, and end up with a mighty base damage special shotgun
every rail has a fast attack that just works great with zeus strike (I mean I wouldn't recommend it on hestia, but it's certainly an option)
Hestia is almost an entire playstyle shift since you're bouncing around hitting people with huge base damage shots
zagreus has it's own niche where it can take spreadfire the most easily if you want to use it like that
and lucifer is it's own thing
every rail has something good to offer the users of them, and each of them can be built for radically different functionality
Don't get me wrong, Rail isn't the Holy Grail of Hades, but it
it's one of the 6 weapons
and every weapon has something going for it with some demographic of people
brisk adder
Thank you for taking the time out to explain. I truly appreciate it 🙂
plain river
It can even be as simple as people like turning their brain off and just being able to hold down the trigger on a gun as well
as a roguelite player, there's just something about hitting enemies lots of times in quick succession
you see it all over the genre, and rail allows that, but with so much more beyond the surface
brisk adder
Yeah that makes complete sense
For Eris, piercing fire, delta chamber or ricochet fire?
vital night
What are the advantages of rail weapons? What makes them so good?
Hestia is personally one of my favorite weapons because it’s really rhythmic and has a lot of audio feedback
proper furnace
For Eris, piercing fire, delta chamber or ricochet fire?
Delta
vital night
For Eris, piercing fire, delta chamber or ricochet fire?
Delta
brisk adder
Hestia is personally one of my favorite weapons because it’s really rhythmic and...
Will try it out 🙂
proper furnace
Inf ammo is nice but the biggest upside is that it keeps iframes on dash strikes
brisk adder
Inf ammo is nice but the biggest upside is that it keeps iframes on dash strikes
I have completely underused dash strikes with the rail, went back to it and it's so much better
iron barn
has anyone ever done a "base zag" run? as in: no boons, no mirror, no meta upgrades
like fresh file without boons
proper furnace
That seems awful to play
fresh dragon
I have some buttons on the side of my mouse that I’ve mapped cast & reload to
R feels a little awkward for me on keyboard
vital night
Dash if you didn’t take tidal dash, special, sure footing, holy shield.
vital night
what boon would i take on athena?
You can also do the sd refresh tech if you’re running sd. Lose sd by dying to lava, enemies, traps. If you take the Athena “regain SD” boons, they’ll be added to your sd pool so you can have an extra or even two.
vital night
not a big fan of the reload button
My bindings are attack on lmb, reload on rmb, spec on shift, and cast on alt
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1019DSLlyHwg7_oIiN3Il-NUYdHEbl783G7ZvstFSCD4/edit?usp=sharing
This is really all you need
knotty sigil
ah i see
knotty sigil
i might just stick to low heat that stuff looks really complicated
just farm gems and whatnot
vital night
i might just stick to low heat that stuff looks really complicated
Wait nah the guide is a lot of information but basically you need to fire one shot and then reload
knotty sigil
oh ok
vital night
Repeat until hades is dead and don’t die in the meantime
If the guide’s cycle is 100% dps potential, just doing attack and reload gets you atleast 60% of the way there
vital night
i might just stick to low heat that stuff looks really complicated
And hestia was the aspect that got me past 10 heat I think and got me my first 32 clear
knotty sigil
hmm
knotty sigil
honest to god I just don't know how to read the basic rundown of the playstyle of the first part of the guide
vital night
I was in the same place when I first read the guide so don’t worry
plain river
Is it not shoot reload special to animatikn cancel?
vital night
Focus on getting shoot+reload down
plain river
I haven’t checked in a while
vital night
You can cancel with cast, dash, or special
knotty sigil
why does zeus aspect like explosive return so much?
plain river
why does zeus aspect like explosive return so much?
It’s free damage in a large aoe
for doing what you already do
vital night
It’s good for crowd control too
plain river
CC is the name of the game with zeus special if you want to take it far
I mean you’re fine without thinking about it for a good while I just found I needed it once I was trying to do 40 heat
vital night
You’d be fine without it but some Tartarus rooms get really slow
And it is technically optimal dps wise to maximize how many times you proc ER
distant orchid
So I've always wanted to try running a Demeter Chiron build in the game...but I don't think I ever got the chance to...until now that is!
Time for some fun!
knotty sigil
big fan of zeus shield it's way more interesting than charge shot
potent tree
Search this server with the term "Nyaanyaa Guan Yu"
fresh dragon
big fan of zeus shield it's way more interesting than charge shot
So far it’s my favorite for the shield aspects, definitely in my list for favorites to
vital night
big fan of zeus shield it's way more interesting than charge shot
Zeus shield is very gamer
High heat ceiling
plain river
how do i build the guan yu spear>
Focus on the special really
Look for the charged skewer hammer
Put a big +% on it like aphrodite (or athena)
If you do aphrodite, put zeus on strike & either zeus or dionysus call for smair
if you take athena on special, you could take artemis strike and build deadly reversal or take ares and build ME (I would recommend the former
fresh dragon
High heat ceiling
I mean, arguably the highest heat ceiling since its beaten 64 heat right?
late wasp
Going for the 32 Heat skelly gift. What's good build for that intensity
plain river
Going for the 32 Heat skelly gift. What's good build for that intensity
What aspect do you plan on using?
And you’ll likely want to change your heat pact
and mirror
late wasp
What aspect do you plan on using?
My thinking immediately was doing Beowulf, Poseidon cast, and go for the rupture, Artemis special for Mirage Shot, Zeus attack for Sea Storm and grab Jolted
plain river
k so
I mean
There are a few priority tweaks I’d make there
But that’s mostly fine
late wasp
the main One is undoubtedly Mirage Shot
plain river
Pos cast -> Artemis Strike for mirage shot.
not artemis special
Zeus attack on beowulf is like putting a peashooter on a bulldozer
There’s no real point
Are you making sure to look for the charged shot hammer?
And what does your mirror and pact of punishmsnt look like atm
late wasp
Are you making sure to look for the charged shot hammer?
Yeah my thinking was Charged Shot and the Beowulf exclusive hammer
plain river
Sidenote but if you wanted to send an ss of those rather than type out your picks, you’d have to imbed them (ie. Send them as an image link rather than an image)
plain river
Yeah my thinking was Charged Shot and the Beowulf exclusive hammer
Unyielding defence isn’t really crazy enough to be a priority
I can’t remember how to spell it properly
wait
I mixed up the name of the aspect ability and the hammer 
Actually unyielding defence is like… very minimal unless you’re getting hit often. At that point you have bigger problems, such as enemies not immediately dying to your cast nuke, or your own ability to dodge
knotty sigil
if you take athena on special, you could take artemis strike and build deadly re...
thank you imma try out athena and arti
plain river
If you want 2 hammers to actually look for after charged shot, it’d be breaching rush and sudden rush
late wasp
Noted
plain river
The other thing about sturdy is
The boons you want most from Hermes will give it to you anwyays
Hyper Sprint -> Rush Delivery is a universally (applied to all weapons and aspects) used boon combo to boost dps
hyper sprint gives you sturdy
plain river
Hyper Sprint -> Rush Delivery is a universally (applied to all weapons and aspec...
From Hermes
late wasp
Yeah I know hermes gives those. And grabbingn those also opens up the legendary that has the bloodstones return right?
plain river
No they won’t
and that’s a good thing
Greater Recall isn’t a big deal. You dash in to grab your bloodstones, or you just fire the rush close enough that the bloodstones are still on top of you
vital night
I mean, arguably the highest heat ceiling since its beaten 64 heat right?
Guan yu and Rama have also
Other weapons like hestia and beo also have a decent heat ceiling tbh
fresh dragon
I haven’t kept up with the 64 runs, seeing as how I’m new but its cool that new weapons have entered the fray
tight basin
tbf rama has always been a contender for 64 heat, it's just that no one wanted to grind rng for 2nd hammer and hermes
and one of the people who was grinding rama 64 is still grinding it or has stopped trying to grind for it lmoa
guan yu has the same problem but the discovery of it being able to clear 64 was way more recent, ever since the 60 clear
and 1 person did both rama and guan yu 64 lmao
sour junco
I tried out the Guan Yu Lvl 1 and I didn't even make it past the Furies
Seems like the life penalty getting reduced to a more manageable level with higher levels is necessary to do well with it
dull vigil
tight basin
if you mean the 32 heat basics guide, that's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies
has a bunch of builds there for a bunch of stuff
hot socket
which weapons are the fastest
lucid oar
In terms of world records, shield > bow > spear > rail > fists > sword
hot socket
In terms of world records, shield > bow > spear > rail > fists > sword
how is the bow faster than spear? spear has felt fastest for me so far
lucid oar
Bow wr is 4:39 while spear wr is 4:55
hot socket
Bow wr is 4:39 while spear wr is 4:55
what heat? also which bow then ive only used chiron so far
hot socket
Bow wr is 4:39 while spear wr is 4:55
wait 4 mins to kill hades? how? what heat is that? those times are nuts
hot socket
9 heat, em2 + fo2
thats crazy lol it just took me 25 mins to beat heat 9 lmfao
hot socket
9 heat, em2 + fo2
does em2 still change the lernie fight?
proper furnace
Yeah
The arena is much smaller so you have the mini heads spawning way closer to you
plain river
thats crazy lol it just took me 25 mins to beat heat 9 lmfao
Well those heats literally make the game faster
forced overtime makes enemies spawn faster and move to you faster (and also trigger jolted faster for builds where it applies)
Extreme measures 2 tightens the lernie arena so you can kill all the heads faster
late wasp
huh
jolly chasm
Than can only appear in chamber 11 and 12 in Tart
fresh dragon
Is Exit Wounds alright on Aspect of Poseidon?
Or are there more impactful boons for it from Artemis
lucid oar
Yeah it’s solid
fresh dragon
I imagine it works well with the Legendary as well
hot socket
ive mostly been playing with achillies and havent bothered to level up cause i dont even use the special what other weapons should i try
vital night
ive mostly been playing with achillies and havent bothered to level up cause i d...
Hestia
vital night
do i need to level it up
Ideally yes but it works well at lvl 3+
vital night
this is the reload sniper play style right
Yes
vital night
Works well with a bunch but for speed, people take rocket bomb with hopes of seeing cluster bomb.
My personal favorite is ricochet since it up to doubles your room clear. People also take hazard first
Other than that, targeting system, piercing, and cluster by itself are decent
hot socket
Zeus atk?
jolly chasm
Any high % attack is good on Hestia
vital night
Speedrunners start tidal dash and go with whatever shows up
But if you start with an attack, it’ll be Aphrodite
hot socket
Speedrunners start tidal dash and go with whatever shows up
sell tidal after first boss fight?
tight basin
does ricochet actually double your room clear compared to rocket/clockets
why would you do that
tight basin
the only time they sell tidal dash after first boss is in routed iirc lmao
vital night
It’s scales decently with Poms and speeds up Styx a lot
tight basin
and they sell it so they dont break pots, which messes with the route
vital night
does ricochet actually double your room clear compared to rocket/clockets
AP2 means im probably stuck with base rocket bomb doing 140 damage with FP on a fairly long cooldown
I wouldn’t take ricochet for any heat
Clockets still best for bossing there, but only if you get a boon on there
hot socket
why aphros atk
vital night
Highest % boost in the game
hot socket
so far im really bad wwith this weapon haha
oh i really suck i almost just died on 2 heat lmfao
brisk cairn
ayyy it looks like they just pushed a hotfix that fixes the blades testament
proper furnace
ayyy it looks like they just pushed a hotfix that fixes the blades testament
Wrong channel
brisk cairn
fair I guess it belongs in...discussion?
proper furnace
This is for the first game
proper furnace
(should delete the first msg)
hot socket
this gun is supposed to be fast? hestia?
harsh brook
Anybody have a good bow build to try out?
hot socket
that hestia gun is not for me at all just died on 2 heat i even tried to turn god mode on mid hades fight and still lost lmfao
yea thats a heck no for me
anything other than achillies spear feels so bad
wwhat aspect is best for hera?
proper furnace
Do you mean which god
hot socket
yea which god
rancid socket
just got the best boons i could get this run, aspect of zagreus, dashing wallop, tempest strike, divine dash
all i need is hermes dash and artimus arrows and i have the perfect dash strike build
proper furnace
yea which god
Aphro cast
Focus poms on it, grab snow burst from dem
Get any cast dmg buff
hot socket
okay will do
tight basin
this gun is supposed to be fast? hestia?
Yeah it's one of the best speed aspects in the game
One shotting enemies is pretty fast it turns out
hot socket
One shotting enemies is pretty fast it turns out
it didnt work like that for me at all
i died on 2 heat against hades i even turned god mode on mid fight still died lel
tight basin
Don't think that's a hestia issue lmao
hot socket
i mean it was doing 275 dmg i do better dps with spear
hot socket
3
tight basin
Also hestia has the longest range in the game apart from spear throw so you can play it fairly safe
Oh that might explain it lmao
That's base 100 right
175% boost on that is alright
Hestia has better room clears than spears tho
Bc of fiery presence
Spear kinda has negative scaling starting in Ely lmao
potent tree
If anybody has trouble understanding Hestia, I'd recommend pretending it's a bolt-action rifle with a grenade launcher
fresh dragon
I understand that much, I think for me it's the repetitious nature of the weapon that doesn’t make me gravitate towards it
manic rose
are there any particularly good duo boons for the hestia rail?
vital night
that hestia gun is not for me at all just died on 2 heat i even tried to turn go...
That’s ait, it’s a lot to put into a rhythm
potent tree
I understand that much, I think for me it's the repetitious nature of the weapon...
Which weapons do you enjoy?
vital night
Greatshields 💀
Greatshields and saviors are real run killers
vital night
are there any particularly good duo boons for the hestia rail?
Meh. Deadly reversal is nice
Pride>legacy since attack and spec rarity matters a lot more
fresh dragon
Which weapons do you enjoy?
I like Zeus / Beo Shield, Achilles Spear, Chiron / Hera Bow, Nemesis Sword, Eris Rail and Demeter / Zag gloves
potent tree
Thanks!
I'm surprised you don't find those repetitive! Like Nemesis is mostly Dash-Strike*2 into Special
fresh dragon
I suppose in essence every weapon has a repetitious nature to them
potent tree
Trueeee
fresh dragon
I think for me it’s the speed at which I’m performing the actions
For Hestia its shoot, wait to reload, repeat
vital night
Not really that much waiting imo
fresh dragon
Very strong, will never deny that
fresh dragon
I may have to try it again, it took a few runs for me to like Achilles to
I ended up really liking it with Hunting Blades in a recent run
hot socket
That’s ait, it’s a lot to put into a rhythm
this hera bow feels like it does way more i actually one shot things
vital night
Yeah but you gotta wait for casts to drop
fresh dragon
I’d be interested in trying Poseidon Sword when I can farm up the Blood for it
hot socket
died on two heat with hera too man ranged weapons feel super bad
with god mode on at 28% still died lmao
ranged feels so weak compared to melee
like i swear its not even close
ima go play hades 2 or something else this isnt fun right now im sick of dying on 2 heat with every single weapon but spear
potent tree
Ranged weapons in Hades play mostly like melee weapons anyway 😛
hot socket
whats a good god for arthur?