That sounds like a skill issue
#h1-discussion
warm nimbus
ooh thats pretty bad
rustic vale
That’s pretty good
Police can’t finger print your thumb accurately now
Tax evasion = easier
pastel monolith
wet skin is very weak and my knives are very sharp, all i did was try to grab some dishes but i couldnt see, i may have been drinking, and i grabbed the knife and it went straight thru me lol
i usualy dont put knives in the sink
warm nimbus
wet skin is very weak and my knives are very sharp, all i did was try to grab s...
lmao nice
latent moon
Do a lot of kbm players have this issue? I've never had this issue even with playing for a few hours straight run after run
warm nimbus
i only have that issue when playing osu but that literally doesnt count
gray apex
Do a lot of kbm players have this issue? I've never had this issue even with pla...
I can usually play for 2-3 hours without that issue
pastel monolith
ive definitely had some hand cramps playing hades
gray apex
But the other issue I run into usually is frustration or just playing worse so I don’t play for that long
warm nimbus
i used to have it with celeste but that went away. never happened in hades
latent moon
Well I've only played like 3 hours max at a time so I guess it just hadn't hit me yet
latent moon
i used to have it with celeste but that went away. never happened in hades
I had that happen to me once with Celeste because of the damn jellyfish gliders lmao
Still haven't finished farewell because it's just pain
warm nimbus
i love farewell
latent moon
Story is probably great but getting to that part isn't lol
warm nimbus
yeah its really hard
my first farewell clear was 15 hours long and had 3500 deaths
because i never got into modded celeste i think the most difficult thing i did in the game was beating 7c with my eyes closed
latent moon
I'm at like about 3 or so hours into farewell and I don't think I'm at the halfway point at all lmao
Dang
I'm still terrible at the game lol
warm nimbus
its ok lmao
there were parts of farewell i had to look up because its like 80% platforming and 20% puzzle
and i was just going about them all wrong
latent moon
I've been playing a ton more hades than Celeste because I can actually see progress on hades compared to Celeste even though I love Celeste a lot
warm nimbus
yeah thats nice fs
signal aspen
Do a lot of kbm players have this issue? I've never had this issue even with pla...
No
umbral parrot
I finally got meg's companion!!!!
I also tried out phalanx shot achilles, but Im washed up on the spear because i died thrice before dad 
It does a lot of damage, though!
latent moon
Yeah Achilles does a ton lol
pastel monolith
the bouncy zeus phalanx duo has rly strong potential, ive seen some ridiculous runs with it
rustic vale
only good spear is guan-yu....
rustic vale
it's not opposite day, I just spoke facts
umbral parrot
Why isnt it allowed to use Meg's companion on dad 
mint coral
They are not gonna turn on their boss :)
umbral parrot
I also got a companion from Skelly (Ive been giving out ambrosias like its nothing 
)
mint coral
Needs permission from dad first
rustic vale
need permission from dad to spawn antos on dad
mint coral
Can use skelly/
for now
upbeat shore
Dad will allow it at some point
latent moon
Drop a rock on his head lol
upbeat shore
But the real tragedy is that you can't use Meg against Meg
mint coral
Drop a rock on his head lol
"is that a blasted rock from the sky?" - dad
latent moon
It's hilarious lol
Thanks for telling!
rustic vale
ayes
I almost always take hades call unless I have another call
I'm not sure if that's 4000% or not
It's guarranteed for me to take it if I have rushed delivery and no call
lean timber
aight i have enough blood to max one more aspect, first one to answer decides which weapon to go for
sword, spear, shield, bow, fists, rail
i'm interested in them all
latent moon
Beo lol
lean timber
well alright then i guess we're going shield lol
latent moon
Beo gaming
lean timber
beo wulf game ing
rustic vale
beowulf gaming
lean timber
beowulf charge shot is just better hera aspect on bow
wtf
this goes hard
if i give up i can get the blood back right? i kinda wanna try a "normal" shield hammer so that i can rly tell whether i like it or not
mint coral
Yeah you get the blood back
latent moon
beowulf charge shot is just better hera aspect on bow
Lmfao pretty much
lean timber
how to acquire
need to be able to gift him 2 nectar
it's his keepsake, unlocks hades' aid
latent moon
I don't remember what condition you need to fill before you can gift him to get it tho
signal aspen
you need to escape 10 times and after that you will get some dialogue which unlocks the ability to get the keepsake
then just give him nectar
lean timber
yah
mint coral
Need to solve the family issues
lean timber
ratio
yeah i'm not giving up beo lol this is sick
time to grind blood again, darn it all
rustic vale
if i give up i can get the blood back right? i kinda wanna try a "normal" shield...
Normal shields are cringe
Except for zeus and zagreus
lean timber
i usually prefer them but in the case of beo charge shot seems kind of nasty
wanted to try a less OP shield hammer in case i didn't like it but i had too much fun to bother
latent moon
lmao yeah
charge shot is a nice bonus because it's fixed damage at the expense of iframes but the brunt of the damage is gonna be the flare afterwards
and also some range ofc
lean timber
To the point where hammers don’t really matter
they do in this case. power and optimization isn't everything to me
rustic vale
I guess undying defense or ferocious guard are also good options then
latent moon
any hammer that doesn't go on your special is gonna be a good hammer tbh
all the options are pretty solid apart from the special ones
rustic vale
Pre-nerf what did it do differently?
mint coral
+400% instead of +200%
rustic vale
If only it worked with the best aspect
warm nimbus
what, talos?
signal aspen
gilgamesh
rustic vale
Zeus
latent moon
just throw the damn sword how hard could it be
upbeat shore
It's not that throwing a sword is hard. It's that, strictly speaking, it's a stupid thing to do in the sense that you are defenseless once you don't have your sword anymore. Throwing your shield is also just as stupid for the same reason but shhhhh
rustic vale
just use zeus shield
lean timber
"throwing your sword" is literally how we advanced as a species. lmao
rustic vale
throw it and you can still use your shield
upbeat shore
"throwing your sword" is literally how we advanced as a species. lmao
No that was spears. Which are made for throwing.
latent moon
It's not that throwing a sword is hard. It's that, strictly speaking, it's a stu...
zag can punch of a few things and dash his way over to where his sword landed assuming it's not lost in a pit or something
upbeat shore
But the danger of it being lost in a pit or something is very real, so Achilles would never train him to do that
latent moon
yeah but throwing swords is funnier
upbeat shore
We already have funny shield throwing tho
upbeat shore
But you could just admit spear is best weapon and use the spear in that case
upbeat shore
"Spear sucks except for the only bad spear aspect" lol
rustic vale
"Spear sucks except for the only bad spear aspect" lol
“Spear sucks except for the only good spear aspect”
upbeat shore
Do y'all think it'd be fun if two people did a Hades run concurrently but instead of fighting Hades at the end, they fought each other? Idk how you would even accomplish that but if it could happen, would it be fun?
rustic vale
not really
unless damage got heavily nerfed
because you deal way way more damage than you have hp
warm nimbus
"Spear sucks except for the only bad spear aspect" lol
??? do you think gy is bad???
upbeat shore
Things I don't know how to use are bad, this is just the way it is
rustic vale
if ypu genuinely think the best spear is bad idk man
upbeat shore
Objectivity need not apply
mint coral
Things I don't know how to use are bad, this is just the way it is
based
rustic vale
it’s kinda the only good spear
warm nimbus
Do y'all think it'd be fun if two people did a Hades run concurrently but instea...
ehhhhh.... a lot would have to be changed. jolted would just be really annoying
latent moon
Do y'all think it'd be fun if two people did a Hades run concurrently but instea...
imagine getting hunting bladed at the end of the run lmfao that'd just suck
upbeat shore
it’s kinda the only good spear
Achilles is based tho
rustic vale
Imagine getting jolted
mint coral
imagine someone getting the more busted meme beams build you can find fight you lmao
rustic vale
doing anything just means no more living
upbeat shore
Companions get confused and decide to attack no one and then flee
rustic vale
Uhhhh
upbeat shore
Bc you're both Zag
warm nimbus
getting hangover is just a ticking clock\
rustic vale
Weaken
just
Weaken
Imagine getting hit with 10 stacks of chill, the based cast mirror aspect, and explosive fire
Just can’t move any more
upbeat shore
Who needs to walk when u can just dash
rustic vale
Ithink speed slows would make your dash have less range
upbeat shore
Chaos Boons that slow your movement speed don't shorten your dashes afaik so idk why any other effect that slows your movement speed would
latent moon
aspect of talos would be funny lmao
rustic vale
Chaos Boons that slow your movement speed don't shorten your dashes afaik so idk...
Making speed slowers actually matter balancing wise
for pvp
mint coral
i mean for such an easy build to get that doesnt sounds balanced 
you can also add that dio boon that also slows
and targetting system
upbeat shore
Tbh I was memeing when I said "just dash lol" I'm sure the movement speed loss by itself would be detrimental enough in practice
lean timber
quaint pier
once i unlock the pact, should i j try and start grinding for bloods ?? whats the strategy ??
- is there anyt i should know beforehand
high island
You can try getting a clear with every weapon for the prophecy.
That'll get you enough Titan Blood to fully upgrade an aspect.
quaint pier
You can try getting a clear with every weapon for the prophecy.
like a full run ??
high island
Yes. Win a run with each weapon.
rustic vale
if you also have the hidden spear
and have spoken to right person and gotten the specific dialogue
high island
Requirements for hidden aspects are pinned in #h1-story-discussion.
Unlikely that you'll get the hidden shield very soon if you just got your first clear.
quaint pier
i have the hidden spear
rustic vale
so then
you'll need to speak with the right person enough then
I can't remember which person it is though
quaint pier
yeah i j read the guide
high island
Master Chaos.
high island
You don't need to use spoiler tags outside of #h1-for-new-players really.
void vigil
you can read the channel description if youre not sure about a specific channel's spoiler policy, but here, spoilers are allowed
quaint pier
You don't need to use spoiler tags outside of <#725021347968712724> really.
yeahh okay
quaint pier
you can read the channel description if youre not sure about a specific channel'...
ah yeah i did but ive seen ppl use spoilers
warm nimbus
yeah, some people will just do that lol
high island
It's just a matter of getting the right dialogue now, but it'll probably take some time. I'd advise to not be in a rush about it. There are plenty of weapon aspects to explore yet. 
rustic vale
like the best one
guan-yu
actually I like every one of the hidden aspects
they feel so fun to use
warm nimbus
i havent tried gilga yet tbh so i cant say anything about but i like the rest of them except arthur
rustic vale
not slow if you are fast
brisk trail
rustic vale
purple haste and purple hyper sprint, praying to come across rushed delivery
absolutely praying
slim geyser
you can only have two hermes boons my man
rustic vale
i dont think youll see him again actually
why not?
slim geyser
i thiiiink you can only see him twice but im not sure lemme check speedrun server
rustic vale
well
slim geyser
While Hermes rooms can be offered more than twice in a run, you can only obtain two Hermes boons as room rewards regardless of whether or not you purge any prior selections. There is also a flat 50% chance for an additional Hermes boon to appear in the Temple of Styx shop even if you already have two. He never appears in a Trial of the Gods.
slim geyser
I mean probably wont happen tbh
slim geyser
i don’t know if anvil chances effect anything though
slim geyser
oh huh thats good
gray apex
what's the speedrun server btw?
It’s pinned in #self-promotion
slim geyser
also tagged you replying to the message
rustic vale
is beo cast long enough that I can dash away and still benefit from hyper sprint?
rustic vale
not yet cuz
slim geyser
dont quote me
rustic vale
not enough obols
rustic vale
ohh I got mirage shot too
slim geyser
lol styx mirage shot
rng moment
rustic vale
4 gold jars in one room!
rustic vale
so uh
level 5 beo trippy flare with mirage shot, +1 cast and +72% cast damage from chaos right now
and ice wine
slim geyser
oh i thought this was flood shot now styx mirage shot makes more sense
rustic vale
is flood shot good on beo?
slim geyser
probably tje best
at least for speedruns
easy access to mirage shot, big damage, wide range
also faster then trippy
rustic vale
no rushed delivery nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
gray apex
That Beo run is not wr
final plaza
Should I choose unshakable mettle or sea storm?
gray apex
Beo WR is 5:00 by BIGP and Cgull
final plaza
I’ve never had 2 duo boon choices before
gray apex
Depends on so many things
gray apex
Well that's still not enough context, a pic of your boon menu would sum up everything, Sea storm is nice on Achilles assuming it's procing off of the dash, it's hard to gauge how much Unshakable Mettle is exactly doing but damage reduction is nice and resisting the staggers is also neat especially on a melee weapon, the third option being offered can also be important so it's worth mentioning that
final plaza
Ok thinking about it mettle seems like the best pick, I only have knock back on the special and the 3rd option is razor shoals but again it would only proc from my special
gray apex
Yea both Shoals and Sea Storm are gonna be sad in this scenario
It's not nothing but it's quite awkward to even use just for a bit of damage
final plaza
Yeah
gray apex
Not an impactful decision then, anything you pick here is probably fine
final plaza
What is generally best for the dash on Achilles, I’ve been trying to get Athena or Poseidon on most runs but I should probably hear from more experienced people
quaint pier
what casts should i use for beowulf
quaint pier
i already tried it but the cooldown is a bit annoying for me
rustic vale
i already tried it but the cooldown is a bit annoying for me
what cooldown
quaint pier
if you high roll
well your build evidently wasnt high roll
rustic vale
stygian soul 🧠
quaint pier
carried
rustic vale
plus uhhh
uhhh
trippy has wierd pom scaling
so my 2 casts were doing like
1600 damage
gray apex
What is generally best for the dash on Achilles, I’ve been trying to get Athena ...
Those are pretty much your best options
Achilles is a lot of damage, Athena is safe
At extremes of heat players sometimes opt for Blade Dash
Because it's actually really good damage too
rustic vale
At extremes of heat players sometimes opt for Blade Dash
it is?
gray apex
The strat for Achilles is usually starting with Tidal Dash tho
So you don't have to choose
rustic vale
base or pommed
gray apex
Well you obviously want to pom it just like Tidal Dash
But it's good enough to get by in the earlier prats
Tidal dash is regarded as stronger and meta for the weapon due to the higher damage overall and also better T2s
Bigger aoe and wall slams and all of that
Potentially solves Styx
As a whole
Blade dash can't do that
final plaza
I’ve also heard heart rend is pretty great for Achilles but I’m struggling to get it
final plaza
Oh ok
gray apex
Just something you pick up on the side, wouldn't build towards it
There are better things to look for
Usually Weak application isn't as easy with a traditional Achilles build
rustic vale
good bouldy boons
gray apex
What do you think is something to aim for
You start with Tidal Dash from Poseidon, and look for an Attack in Tartarus, your ideal options are Zeus or Artemis, try to pick up a Cast along the way because Achilles' buff applies to Casts too, Slicing Shot and Phalanx shot are top tier options, Zeus cast is good for rooms but struggles with bossing, Trippy is nice but can be tough to aim, Beams are honestly awful without Crystal Clarity, Crush Shot and True Shot are alright, they have their procs and cons, one has no range but good damage, and the other has range but low damage, if you find yourself an Artemis attack you usually lean into Ares for Asphodel and try to pick up his cast, and later on you try to get Hunting Blades Mirage Shot Hunter's Mark etc, maybe a good Call, Dio Zeus or Sigil for damage, Athena for safety, if you find yourself a Zeus attack you look for a lot of Zeus afterwards, so force him in Asphodel, try to get Static Discharge, Zeus' Aid, Double Strike -> Splitting Bolt, still would recommend picking up a cast along the way, maybe Athena's if you can because that puts Lightning Phalanx in your pool which is great, your Special boon isn't really used as a way to deal damage, it will mostly act as a filler or Duo boon opener
final plaza
Much appreciated, so I should almost always start with the Poseidon trinket?
rustic vale
hades full call helps out rush delivery right
gray apex
Much appreciated, so I should almost always start with the Poseidon trinket?
Yes if you're looking to follow the general strat I mentioned, if you want to experiment with other stuff then that's up to you
Not mentioned but obviously you really want Flurry Jab on Achilles
final plaza
Any other hammers that are nice to have?
gray apex
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18uZziGYDyVCwc-XgcveoY8MXp6Lwq0BD6xDV38cuYWo/edit?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eAOEli9KqJOVyPD7U-6D1o1yZx1tDMQWLDcMJr8G84E/ Here are 2 Achilles guides by top players if you want more details on the weapon and build alongside how to play it
gray apex
Any other hammers that are nice to have?
If Flurry is not offered then the only other hammer that can scale your damage is Serrated
However if you already have Flurry then avoid Serrated because it makes Flurry worse essentially
gray apex
hades full call helps out rush delivery right
Yes, Rush Delivery can scale with the movement speed that you get from Hades' Call
It also works for Lesser calls not just the big call
final plaza
So by saying good Hermes they mean dash hermes?
gray apex
Dash Hermes or Rush Delivery
And by Rush Delivery it means Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery
final plaza
Ahh
Seems like you are expected to get a hammer and tidal dash at the start of every run
gray apex
You can get Tidal Dash consistently, the hammer on the other hand can be annoying, if you're looking to just clear then you can wing it and take another hammer and rely more on your casts and maybe pray for the second hammer
solar breach
rush delivery is the only thing that I dont have from all the hermes boons for the prophecy
how do i force it
gray apex
You basically need some kind of permanent movement speed since it scales off of Movement speed
rustic vale
also don't take anything else to opens up more hermes boons
solar breach
hermes trinket doesnt give his boon tho
gray apex
It gives movement speed
rustic vale
hermes trinket is one of the prerequisite options
so you can get it if you have the plume if you don't have haste or hyper sprint
final plaza
So I should take greater haste from hermes if there are no additional dashes?
rustic vale
if you are trying to force rush delivery
gray apex
Usually you'd want to roll the Hermes
To get one of Dashes or Hyper sprint
If you get neither then yea you can just take greater haste
Greater Haste + RD is kinda sad
But it can scale
And you can also get third Hermes maybe
So it's better than nothing
rustic vale
I had purple haste and hyper sprint earlier
and then didn't get the rushed delivery off of third hermes boon
would've had a passive +40% dmg and active +180% damage
final plaza
You can roll boons? I had no clue, I’ve been playing without my last 3 mirror buffs for almost all my heat runs
gray apex
You're using that Heat modifier or you havent unlocked that part of the mirror yet?
rustic vale
if you're that high on heat then I guess use those pacts
final plaza
That heat modifier
gray apex
You shouldn't
rustic vale
shouldn't
gray apex
If you compare the heat modifiers individually that is arguably the most harmful one of them all
final plaza
For me the timer would probably be the most harmful
gray apex
Look into: Tight Deadline/ Underworld Customs/ Middle Management/ Benefits Package 1-2 / Extreme Measures 1-2
gray apex
TD1 should be fine then
And you're just around 2 minutes short for TD2 pace
So practice will get you there
If you turn on TD2 and go, the time pressure will probably push you there
rustic vale
turn on all the pacts and go
the pressure will push you there
crank everything up to the max
final plaza
I tried that and died on the 4th room of Tartarus lol
Both me and the heat meter cried
brisk trail
tartarus
I wonder if supergiant had any ideas to add the other primordial gods
like gaia and erebus
rustic vale
I wonder if supergiant had any ideas to add the other primordial gods
Other than nyx, chaos and bouldy?
analog plover
Arthur aspect too op
brisk trail
i’ve played hades for about a year now
and i’ve completed the story
and romanced than and meg
and dusa
rustic vale
Haven’t unlocked secret bouldy romance option smh
analog plover
Bouldy 1st romance club
brisk trail
bouldy fan club
can there be a bouldy fan club
on this server
greg
darren
please
I’ll complete hades on full heat
rustic vale
I’ll prevent zonkgreus from winning that run if they make artemis romanceable
brisk trail
isn’t artemis aroace?
rustic vale
brisk trail
same with athena
brisk trail
I like lgbt+ representation
rustic vale
we can just retcon greek myths
brisk trail
even if annoying thanatos with love
rustic vale
what are the ancient greeks going to do? Stop us?
brisk trail
HAHA
no
nooo don’t make the goddess be themselves and love people only platonically!!!
haha aroace go brrr
I need to make that
I’ve seen people ship nyx and persephone
rustic vale
Ares and nyx is implied right
brisk trail
also sorry i’m talking about multiple things at a time
brisk trail
Ares and nyx is implied right
sort of I think
honestly i’d be scared if my foster mother started dating my blood cousin
because what would I call my cousin and foster mum
like genuinely
foster dad
cousin’s girlfriend
it’s in the blood ig
sorry
rustic vale
It’s in the blood
rustic vale
sounds like 50% of greek myths
brisk trail
YUP
I mean theseus and ariadne are technically 2nd cousins
because king minos is the son of zeus
like everyone else was tbh
I like greek mythology but there’s certain things that just make you go
rustic vale
Like artemis being aromance so I can’t romance them in the hit game Hades™️ by Supergiantgames
or uhh
Everything else
what was it
Someone dissed apollo and artemis’s mom so they killed all of their children
brisk trail
I REMEMBER THAT
brisk trail
pan
rustic vale
zeus commited a lot of sexual crimes
brisk trail
murder
wife
zeus is evil
I heard about how asterion/asterius was created
never again
rustic vale
Some gods just got phased out
brisk trail
like oizys my beloved
rustic vale
Helios and his sister that I can’t remember
rustic vale
forgot
rustic vale
*muuurrrdeeerr*
Is that… tisiphone in disguise
also where are the many armed bois in tartarus
hmmm
Supergiantgames explain
The many armed bois who were spawned by chronos should be in tartarus
right?
brisk trail
chronos is a very cringe dad
rustic vale
Hecatoncheires
rustic vale
Where are they in tartarus in the hit game Hades™️ by supergiantgames
Why aren’t they there
brisk trail
I need hecate
rustic vale
google says Hecatoncheires
brisk trail
I know I was just being stupid :))
rustic vale
I need some typhoon boons
somber rapids
im lost
rustic vale
Typhoon boons means every encounter for other boons is like when you have two options
somber rapids
can we talk about how bad spear is again
rustic vale
Oh every spear other than guan-yu?
brisk trail
i like the hades and Achilles one
rustic vale
guan yu is doo doo
Trolling right
brisk trail
I like the gold
also because achilles
my beloved
I want to kiss patroclus platonically
he deserves it
somber rapids
guan yu not getting explody launcher makes me sad
rustic vale
Guan yu doesn’t need it
somber rapids
I wish charged volley was still a thing for chiron
somber rapids
they are very good but not that fun to play because not much changes
just bigger number or more number
rustic vale
Y’know what? Hugely good idea incoming
Hermes attack speed increase should’ve been core boons
this definitely wouldn’t make them even less pick up able
somber rapids
or make them pommable at least 😦
rustic vale
they are very good but not that fun to play because not much changes
Together they become mega cool
somber rapids
then its just more bigger numbers
dont get me wrong it's fun to melt opponents but it doesn't change your playstyle in any way
rustic vale
More bigger numbers is the best I’ve ever heard
Thanks
what about dashing flight from shield onto chiron
that’d be a cool hammer to have
somber rapids
that would be so insane
and it could very well be balanced given that you have to re tag enemies for every 3 specials anyways so you'd only be able to get two off
rustic vale
How about charged flight on arthur
That’d be cool
whoops just shifted thinking
Back to bow/chiron special
somber rapids
the sword really deserves funner hammers
especially arthur got left in the dust completely
rustic vale
Arthur is so fun though so
its fine
you get mega huge special which looks really fun when you use it
As a hammer option
somber rapids
I feel like arthur only really gets fun if you get 20-30% attack speed from hermes
somber rapids
it just feels the perfect kind of snappy
my favourite hammer in the game might just be kinetic launcher though
rustic vale
I wish zeus and support fire didn’t have internal cooldowns
somber rapids
or explody spear
rustic vale
kinetic launcher for demeter gloves just feels perfect
somber rapids
I tried sea storm with poseidon special on chiron and it feels so bad
I wasn't expecting it to rival artemis or w/e but I didn't expect it to be so god awful
rustic vale
sea storm feels good on super soaker
But
Them having internal cooldowns makes attack speed weapons cry
rustic vale
super soaker was so fun
it’s so sad that exagryph and other high hits per second attacks don’t benefit from zeus boons/ support fire as much as you’d think
somber rapids
zeus attack still feels the best on eris though
somber rapids
yeah that's fair
when I get to the point of increasing my attack speed I should be spamming special all the time anyways
mint coral
But once you get to higher attack speeds on it
Why you would take thag in first place
rustic vale
Before I got a dio cast beo run that killed hades in 2 seconds
I dunno, flurry fire cuz
somber rapids
you just want more splash dashes on eris
rustic vale
over explosive/seeking or ehatever
mint coral
I dont think most things benefit from attack speed
somber rapids
only ones I really felt like it improved the weapon was arthur and flurry bow
mint coral
Special speed on chiron/gy/hades tho 
somber rapids
special speed on explody spears too
rustic vale
Attack speed feels like such a good thing
Until you pick it upp
And nothing has changed
mint coral
I think with purple special speed you can change the rhythm on on hestia of reload + special > shoot > reload > into a double reload + special
Cuz it makes the cooldown shorter
mint coral
Spread fire zag rail also 6-7 no?
gray apex
I think with purple special speed you can change the rhythm on on hestia of relo...
Has a bit of a delay tho
rustic vale
How many times do you think “Why wasn’t x greek mythological entity added to the game” has been asked of Supergiant Games
mint coral
Yes
upbeat shore
How long do you have to do this harp thing before you're done? It just switched from vaguely musical stuff to stuff that actually sounds cool for me.
rustic vale
210 times
warm nimbus
How many times do you think “Why wasn’t x greek mythological entity added to the...
omg superhiant!!!! why tf havent you aded my faboritr god????? apollo?????? egats up with thay supetigant tanes???? do you evem know who apollo is?????? whena tha dpc for apollp comging our??? hm????
manic bobcat
How many times do you think “Why wasn’t x greek mythological entity added to the...
If they get a dollar for each time that gets asked they would have enough fund to put those Gods in the game.
analog plover
Am i the only greek who learned a lot of mythology from the game ?
Ngl books on the subject are boring
rustic vale
hmm
imagine not knowing everything about greek mythology
because you were fascinated about it as a child
and read everything you could find about it
solar breach
read the percy jackson bools
cyan jolt
Yes
left harness
So my list of prophecies doesn't have a lot of quests that according to the wiki it should... I'm confused lol
strange skiff
It grows over time
left harness
so like
if I meet the requirements of a prophecy it still may not show up right away?
like for example I have 6 nectar with nyx and chaos and have neither of the respective prophecies
can you complete prophecies that aren't revealed?
latent moon
they'll be completed but you can't claim the reward until they're revealed
some of them you might have to do a run again to complete it even if it should've been completed
left harness
thats odd
mine may just be bugged 😬 ive had the reveal conditions done for ages but they are not there
latent moon
maybe you need to progress the story more and talk to more people? not sure tho
patent mesa
guan yu is doo doo
guan yu slander detected
pastel monolith
guan yu is my worst aspect personally.. idk how ppl make it work
that exploding launcher hammer special thingy seems important
my highest heat with it is 20
gray apex
Guan Yu has no exploding launcher hammer
rustic vale
that exploding launcher hammer special thingy seems important
you literally can't roll that
signal aspen
spin2win
pastel monolith
ya if u could roll hammers that would be nice but it would kinda ruin the game lol
with keepsakes and rolls u can already pretty much get any specific build u want
gotta keep some rng in there still
somber rapids
super soaker was so fun
i got it with sea storm and it was indeed very fun
- tidal dash, epic zeus call, lightning phalanx
it was pretty insane
rustic vale
Even though sea storm has an internal cooldown just like all the other zeus boons
it still works fine
rustic vale
Yup
somber rapids
so it was just lightning everything
3 zeus duos with gods pride lol who needs gods legacy
somber rapids
sheesh
dense bison
guys
im gonna cry
i somehow got to ||hades with 10s left|| even though in the past i've gotten there with several minuted
what the hell did i spend the time on 😭
latent moon
you either left the game unpaused or got shafted by how many styx tunnels you had to take
glass knot
pastel monolith
if u like ur build and u have time, why not
especially if u have that pom blossom
lean timber
i usually get 2 sack so i just skip nearly everything
lately i haven't been getting it tho
pastel monolith
lately i get tiny vermin practically every time
upbeat shore
I actually find the "challenge" Styx rooms easier than the regular ones now that I have Meg, unless I get Tiny Vermin specifically.
rustic vale
not using companion antos, ew
latent moon
what does antos do lmao i've never used it
lean timber
causes the enemies to become infested with bugs and they burst out of their skin and kill them
upbeat shore
I never used it either, isn't it hits someone for 1500 and then someone else for 1500
mint coral
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
latent moon
fair enough lol
mint coral
I dont use it
gray apex
There is a delay
upbeat shore
I am a Batty fan but I do dream of being good enough to use Mort as a flex one day
upbeat shore
It's such an A+ name too, obviously Mort means death but also it's a mouse so it's a play on Mortimer Mouse which is great
lean timber
it's a... it's a mole
lean timber
um
i guess i don't know now
i always thought it was a little mole 😄
but it's probably a mouse
who is mortimer mouse?
rustic vale
Antos is just too cute so they’re better than all the other companions
upbeat shore
Mortimer Mouse is the name Walt Disney originally wanted to give Mickey before his wife made him change it
lean timber
oh sick
upbeat shore
He did eventually make a character named Mortimer Mouse who appeared occasionally
celest shell
Serrated Point is probably my favorite upgrade. Man it feels great to use
Achillies aspect + Serrated point = fun times all around
final plaza
Achillies aspect + Serrated point = fun times all around
Serrated point is fun it’s just not quite as good as flurry blow
celest shell
True
Also the downside of Serrated Point is that it wears out my right thumb as I furiously dash and attack
pastel monolith
is serrated the one where it messes up ur dash
i like that one actualy but the minus on the dash range can be a real problem sometimes
lol even at like 600 hrs i still have trouble remembering the names of things
upbeat shore
i like that one actualy but the minus on the dash range can be a real problem so...
If you got Pos dash, it's not a detriment, it's a feature
pastel monolith
ive made it work really well sometimes
I think artemis on attack
its been a while rly.. i dont play with the spear a lot
possibly pash dash heart rend combo
usualy when spear is the darkness enchanted weapon choice however u call it , im just like ok.. Achilles cast build here we go
lately im forcing myself to try other things bc i wana 32 heat every aspect
ill take all the spear advice i can get if anyone has some
high island
ill take all the spear advice i can get if anyone has some
If you want more than just generic advice, I'd suggest asking more specific questions.
celest shell
Yeah it takes some getting used to the lack of iframes but you don't have to worry about dodging attacks if the enemy attacking is dead.
lean timber
Less dash distance = less iframes
is it? i feel like the dash timing is standard but it would make a lot of sense if i was wrong
lethal shoal
Question: After 3 or so years I got over my 3 in a row lost save files and decided to open the game since pre-relies so... Does the mirror still has the minus darkness option? I feel like I'm at least in half of the story and still nothing. I used it to slowly heighten the difficulty and so get better at the game, it would be quite the pity if it was taken out.
(If it shows later just say so, please no story/character interaction spoilers)
BTW: Will I see Orpheus later on with those supposed curls he used to have?
high island
Question: After 3 or so years I got over my 3 in a row lost save files and decid...
That was changed to remove 3 mirror talents per rank, starting from the bottom.
If you've seen that option, that's the one. If you haven't seen it yet, you'll unlock it later.
upbeat shore
Roughly speaking, what are the odds for Sisyphus and Patroclus rooms to appear in a given run? They're the only peeps I have left to get all bonds, and I only need to run into each of them one more time
Not necessarily the odds that they both appear in the same run
Although that would be nice
lethal shoal
That was changed to remove 3 mirror talents per rank, starting from the bottom.
Do you know why was the minus option cut? It was great!
high island
I don't remember them mentioning anything about that specific decision. Guess it just better fit their vision for the difficulty scaling.
brisk trail
Hey guys so I need some help I'm trying to do the musician and muse fate but I don't know how can one of you help me oh and if you can answer this question what's your favourite aspect [no hidden aspects ] have a good day.
upbeat shore
I do hear Fresh File runners really like that one
brisk trail
aegis is overpowered but in a good way right guys?
final plaza
I just had an almost great Tartarus for Achilles, but I was only able to get serrated point instead of flurry jab
final plaza
Oh my god exclusive access is a great boon
rustic vale
Depends how early you get it tbh
final plaza
I got it in asphodel
rustic vale
Also not something to particularly build towards
getting it in tartarus is the dream
final plaza
I wasn’t building towards it but it’s a sick boon
patent mesa
what's gods for it again?
high island
Yeah, Exclusive Access can make builds a lot stronger. But not something you'd build towards because on its own, it doesn't do anything. Like, you can't hit your enemies with any Exclusive Access effect or anything.
Getting it before your first boon from Lord Hermes that run is amazing, though.
mint coral
what's gods for it again?
Dio-pos
patent mesa
huh
warm nimbus
its great if you get it but yeah not something you go for
next compass
fight me
lean timber
imagine if exclusive access was hosted by gods that are more often used together
athena and ares for example
latent moon
exclusive access to the war room lol
fickle orchid
I hope was there more about ||family returned party||
Smth like ||zagreus meet artemis or aphrodite , hades meet Dionysus||
warm nimbus
athena and ares for example
merciful access
lean timber
Smth like ||zagreus meet artemis or aphrodite , hades meet Dionysus||
me too
daring lantern
bro is it me or does meg never spawn in the house
i want to get the companion but shes just not ther
storm hollow
New to this server.Just wondering if we'll be getting a new major update like new stages or story expansion anytime soon or not. anyone knows?
slim geyser
Up here
upbeat shore
Gonna start from scratch
Good luck!
ionic harness
huh
Dionysus and Poseidon
I just thought about this, when does ||Demeter become available? After your first run?||
inner condor
she appears after your first win
mint coral
I just thought about this, when does ||Demeter become available? After your firs...
After you reach the surface for the first time
Winning/losing doesnt matter
strong ridge
hard to belief the game was in EA for 3 years and i didnt kow about it till after release
latent moon
New to this server.Just wondering if we'll be getting a new major update like ne...
Devs said they're not planning on adding anything more because they feel like the games already complete
gray apex
If you mean updates that add content then most likely no
latent moon
Probably not yeah
The game is literally complete and the story is done there's not much to add
gray apex
Probably an occasional bug fixes patch and I doubt that honestly
latent moon
Please don't fix beo mirage shot lol
gray apex
Nah won't be fixed
Just miscellaneous and stability improvement kinda stuff is what I was referring to, the Mirage bug has been discovered a long time ago, and survived a lot of patches, and it's what makes Beowulf as insane as it is, so fixing that will be a major change to leaderboards and such
signal aspen
lmao
latent moon
Just miscellaneous and stability improvement kinda stuff is what I was referring...
ah i see they took the bethesda route
hollow thunder
Did you know that in pre-greek religions, that likely inspired greek myth, the Goddess of Love was also the Goddess of War?
The Phonecians believed in a deity named Astarte
And before them, the Sumerians believed in a deity named Ishtar
Ishtar was believed to be the goddess of fertility and beauty, but also the goddess of war and combat
She also embodied justice and political power
Historians believe that over many generations and through cultural spread, Ishtar mutated into Astarte, who mutated into Aphrodite
signal aspen
ok
hollow thunder
Here's a video talking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIUq0pfAskU
warm nimbus
very interesting
hollow thunder
There's a myth where Ishtar travels to the underworld to rescue a lover of hers, and comes into conflict with the queen of the underworld Ereshkigal
Aphrodite has a very similar myth
She gives Persephone baby Adonis, but when he grows up, Aphrodite and Persephone fight over who gets to keep him
Now, Erishkigal and Persephone are two very different figures
But they are both the queen of the underworld
warm nimbus
yes! i got an email from sgg saying that they are planning on adding 5 new biomes, 20 new gods, and 7 new weapons! a lot of content coming. apparently the new biomes are: south africa, australian outback, tokyo, deep south usa, and the yucatan peninsula, all before we finally reach olympus. quite amazing! i also was told that we are getting odin, thor, anubis, and osiris as gods. i cant wait for the update!
signal aspen
they are adding florida as a new part of the underworld
warm nimbus
thats amazing
latent moon
can't wait to see florida man riding crocs
warm nimbus
i cant wait to meet florida man
signal aspen
thats one of the new gods
warm nimbus
whats his signature ability?
warm nimbus
yeah bot come on
signal aspen
there we go
warm nimbus
there we go
latent moon
there it is!
signal aspen
a little slow
warm nimbus
slow bot
signal aspen
@drifting ember git gud
warm nimbus
its ok, your sacrifive will be worth it
hollow thunder
Another interesting thing about Aphrodite
There are some stories where she's a benevolent and wholesome force
But there's also some stories where she's fickle and cruel
high island
Main character by the way. https://clips.twitch.tv/PeppyCloudySnoodDoggo-1SiN8wRSl3hsg9j8
hollow thunder
This kinda makes sense for a love goddess
high island
But there's also some stories where she's fickle and cruel
That's false. Lady Aphrodite is always in the right.
warm nimbus
florida man summons a crocodile to fight for you
thats amazing, on all of his boons?
hollow thunder
But many greeks were not satisfied
So they split her in half
signal aspen
thats amazing, on all of his boons?
yes
warm nimbus
cool
hollow thunder
In some parts of greek culture, Aphrodite became two different figures
Named Urania and Pandemos
Urania became an embodiment of "celestial, pure love"
While Pandemos became an embodiment of physical attraction, who does what she wants, when she wants
daring lantern
today was the day i got true ending
all the keepsakes (not the secret stashes or whatever)
honest citrus
does anyone have good/fun adamant rail builds? Im trying to change things up a bit because all my gun runs end up being a lightning strike + splitting bolt build
gray apex
I need help modding
The modding server is your best bet, link pinned in #self-promotion
gray apex
does anyone have good/fun adamant rail builds? Im trying to change things up a b...
For Zag Rail you can try going for a Spread fire build, which can go for crit with Arty attack + Heartrend or classic Merciful End build, for Eris you can start with Drunken strike instead of lightning strike, and try to get Tidal dash asap and lots of poms for both of those, fun build but Lightning strike builds usually tend to do more damage
For Lucifer you can try supersoaker, where you basically start with poseidon’s attack and try to get Sea storm + more Zeus, this is a bit more of a meme than a legit build, but it’s fun regardless
rustic vale
super soaker is the best build 
gray apex
It’s so good that the community found it unfair to have it with the other weapons on the leaderboard so they a new leaderboard specifically for it
patent mesa
does anyone have good/fun adamant rail builds? Im trying to change things up a b...
hestia, aphro attack whatever special, gg
honest citrus
For Zag Rail you can try going for a Spread fire build, which can go for crit wi...
alr thanks ill try some of them
lean timber
who's the one that yells "suffer and die" when u act their max call? does anyone know off the top of their head cuz i forgor
lean timber
ah yes he's the one. i was going to run some tests with him. thanks
brisk trail
can kiss of styx replenish death defiance uses from chaos legendary boon and lucky tooth as well?
patent mesa
https://i.imgur.com/t8VFSYG.png eris moment
tall holly
dayum
well anyway i'm so happy i ||beat hades with beowulf first try||
passion flare is really nice
signal aspen
https://i.imgur.com/t8VFSYG.png eris moment
cheat engine
mint coral
https://i.imgur.com/t8VFSYG.png eris moment
Bad hermes, reset
lean timber
-ban
mint coral
upbeat shore
What gave it away? Was it the "MODDED GAME" in all caps? 
lean timber
i could smell it
patent mesa
What gave it away? Was it the "MODDED GAME" in all caps? <:zaglol:72504393186751...
this is a joke right
upbeat shore
Of course not. There's no such thing as a cosmetic or QoL mod. All mods are cheating, right?
patent mesa
lmao
berserker queen moment
anyways here's eris moment vs dad https://streamable.com/wra9cz
signal aspen
whiffed meg smh
signal aspen
thats a bug lmao
happens when you cast and special at the same time
this is why you gotta start rocket bomb
patent mesa
oh good so I haven't gone completely insane
I passed up rocket for targeting system as second hammer
probably bad call
signal aspen
yeah
warm nimbus
this is why you gotta start rocket bomb
wait wtf @patent mesa are you not doing that??/
patent mesa
wait wtf <@279126808455151628> are you not doing that??/
nah I delta start
warm nimbus
what are you starting with smh
warm nimbus
nah I delta start
on 40??
patent mesa
yeah
warm nimbus
bruh
patent mesa
I'm a coward
pastel monolith
i made a beowful dio cast build today and i 1 shotted em4 last phase, over 16k damage
warm nimbus
tf are you doing with your life man
patent mesa
I'm a delta simp
patent mesa
no reload and default ddash good
warm nimbus
imagine having a 50 base damage special
lean timber
sword
pastel monolith
ya im still not that used to it, but itz really good whe u get good at it
patent mesa
delta fun
pastel monolith
i cant wait till i get o the final ranking so i can stop having to pick the weapon wirh ghe darkness boost
warm nimbus
idk I don't like activating eris buff on rocket
smh
but your special is so slowwww without rocket
and then you have to go stand in the circle
although i suppose you like standing in circles because you like arthur
patent mesa
lmaoooo
pastel monolith
timing is everything i guess, i still mess up thebreload time and dash strike like a maniac and end up getting hit too much
signal aspen
idk I don't like activating eris buff on rocket
;vgpp g;;fd
whoops meant to type skill issue but had the wrong keyboard layout
🗿
signal aspen
dvorak
warm nimbus
nice
pastel monolith
whays the most darkness you can collect in a single run
warm nimbus
5 bajillion
signal aspen
depends on how many darkness buffs you can get
patent mesa
whoops meant to type skill issue but had the wrong keyboard layout
my eris skill issue and I feel attacked :(
pastel monolith
ya im gona just try a few darkness farming runs
warm nimbus
my eris skill issue and I feel attacked :(
also yeah wtf is your problem with activating buff on rocket
you just like
stand next to the enemy
pastel monolith
i rly wana get these final ranks out ofbthe way i think i am 3 away from the end
warm nimbus
and poof
warm nimbus
you do have aim at cursor off right
patent mesa
of course
pastel monolith
how about hazarb bomb when u have to get hit or dash woth perfect timing
signal aspen
I'm a coward
delta is better for high heat but the highest i have ever cleared with it is probably 32 🗿
pastel monolith
i wish u could purge hammers
signal aspen
why
patent mesa
the radius is very beeg
fine
pastel monolith
i got screwed by ap2 and cursed slash
signal aspen
why do you have ap2
pastel monolith
also sometimes its a useless hammer and i dint wana sell a boon
warm nimbus
hmmmm