#h1-discussion

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lament oracle
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You can romance ||meg, than, and dusa|| ๐Ÿ‘€

manic bobcat
spare tartan
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||skelly meg dusa achielies(i cant spell) and a few others||

patent mesa
spare tartan
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I forgot who thesus was for a second

slim geyser
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please dont take anyones advice lmao bouldy
its meg, than, somewhat dusa

patent mesa
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||zag is into that freaky stuff||

warm nimbus
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god hera is such a satisfying aspect to play

patent mesa
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I need to practice hera more

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the one time I used at 32 was filled with me frantically dash striking while crush shot was stuck in something

slim geyser
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hera woosh

warm nimbus
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idk why it feels really good after running rama for so long

umbral parrot
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Beowulf is the best objectively i think

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But what matters is the best one for you ChillBar_nod

warm nimbus
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i dont think theres an objectively best weapon

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i mean there are some that are better than others but like rama beo etc are all very good

vale ocean
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i am still yet to unlock beowulf

warm nimbus
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its very fun

patent mesa
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and op as hell

slim geyser
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ramas chonky

warm nimbus
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i love rama

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so many good hammers

patent mesa
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the sheer amount of amazing bow hammers is crazy

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why can't the other hammers be balanced like that

warm nimbus
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ikr

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i swear every time i get a hammer on bow theres always something good

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the same cant be said for anything else

patent mesa
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instead we have crap like sword and shield with 50 trash/downgrade hammers

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tragic

warm nimbus
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rail has a few really good hammers and a lot of hammers that do practically nothing

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like i get the idea behind seeking fire but it literally does absolutely nothing

patent mesa
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at least for me rail has a healthy mix of attack and special hammers

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agreed on having a lot of crap though

slim geyser
patent mesa
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but compared to shield which has a naturally horrific special and the hammers don't help

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god I hate how broken dedge is

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nemesis literally doesn't work without it

slim geyser
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fr

warm nimbus
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shield special makes me so sad

patent mesa
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you and me both

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sometimes I map special to nothing during beo runs

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so I don't accidentally use it

slim geyser
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except zeus but it has a p big skill floor so bouldy

warm nimbus
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true zeus actually makes it good

patent mesa
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and chaos makes it 5x better which means it becomes op

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I wish

slim geyser
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zeus h a r d

warm nimbus
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spear special is also really bad without exploding launcher

slim geyser
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except achillies

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banana spear go nyoom

patent mesa
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and guan yu

warm nimbus
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well yeah but on achilles the only reason you use special is so you can use something else

slim geyser
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achilles and gaun yu are the only spear aspects anyway bouldy

warm nimbus
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basically

patent mesa
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chain skewer might not be the actual worst hammer but it's easily the one I see the least frequently of all the hammers

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just for being incompatible with achilles and guan yu

patent mesa
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nice, so confident you finished chaos achievement

warm nimbus
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also i love how beo just has one good hammer

patent mesa
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tbh I think some of the beo hammers are underrated

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the block and cast ones I'm quite partial to

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extra sturdy never hurts imo

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but no doubt they're all miles below charged shot

warm nimbus
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yeah i mean they arent bad... but they really arent great

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theyre just like minor convenience buffs

patent mesa
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the block one is global damage right?

warm nimbus
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oh wait, is it?

patent mesa
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time to look

warm nimbus
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oh wait it is

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ok well then thats reasonably good

patent mesa
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nice boost to casts

warm nimbus
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indeed

patent mesa
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why are there 5 special hammers

warm nimbus
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idek

warm nimbus
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most of them are incompatible with zeus which is the funny thing

patent mesa
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yeah

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3/5 incompatible

warm nimbus
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empowering flight isnt even a special hammer

slim geyser
patent mesa
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it's insane how their presence makes hammers so stupidly polarizing on beo

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getting three special choices gives me depression

warm nimbus
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its so awful

patent mesa
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hot take let chaos have charged flight

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maybe it'll be good then

warm nimbus
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also is it just me or does eris feel kinda boring without rocket

vale ocean
patent mesa
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huh how so

warm nimbus
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idk

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it just is for me lol

patent mesa
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on my eris 32 I had choice of rocket or cluster and took cluster

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I like the easier buffing

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is rocket actually that good?

warm nimbus
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its quite good i think

slim geyser
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clockets mmmmm

warm nimbus
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cluster is probably better but you can get both

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for ultimate destruction

slim geyser
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take rockets and cluster and youre set

patent mesa
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yeah yeah

warm nimbus
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if i was offered rocket vs cluster on first hammer i think i would choose rocket

patent mesa
warm nimbus
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just because then you can still get triple if you dont get cluster

warm nimbus
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and i mean imo they need to nerf it more

warm nimbus
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chaos is so ridiculously good its not even funny

patent mesa
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hmmm

patent mesa
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triple rocket seems really good

warm nimbus
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not as good as cluster but pretty close

slim geyser
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ehhhhh

patent mesa
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that's a given

slim geyser
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im not the biggest fan of triple

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at least when speedrunning

warm nimbus
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well yeah its definitely not as good as cluster

warm nimbus
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but certainly better than nothing

slim geyser
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true but personally i just dont like using it

slim geyser
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same with delta chamber tbh

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yeah

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chaos is just a meme

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love them

warm nimbus
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so cool

patent mesa
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it's kinda sad how certain things in this game has quirks that almost no one even knows about

slim geyser
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โ€œlol go beat up your dad with my keepsake for the vineโ€

patent mesa
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like chaos shield

warm nimbus
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catch a fish and theyre like "lol nice fish"

patent mesa
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I took artemis call a few days ago and thought my game was bugged when I saw 5 small calls

warm nimbus
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wdym

patent mesa
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like call gauge divided into 5 segments

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turns out it's always like that but I hate artemis call so much I never take it

warm nimbus
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oh yeah thats just artemis call lmao

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i used to think it was really good but um yeah it really sucks lol

slim geyser
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its okay

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super annoying that it needs full gauge

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no smair :(

patent mesa
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it was my last boon pre hades and during the fight I carefully filled call gauge to 4 and used it to see if it would give me full call

warm nimbus
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i think ares call and poseidon are the only ones that actually nerf you

slim geyser
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no

warm nimbus
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actually im not sure how bad poseidon is but i dont think its very good

slim geyser
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pos great

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especially with rip current and smair

patent mesa
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rip current is too important for it so I dislike it

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but it's definitely strong and can mess up styx if your build otherwise doesn't want poseidon

warm nimbus
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my absolute favorite call is athena with smair when running rama

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you literally just sit in front of hades the whole time lmao

patent mesa
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that sounds amazing tbh

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need to keep that in mind

patent mesa
warm nimbus
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yeah ares kinda sucks in general lol

patent mesa
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the only times I'm happy to see him naturally are hestia guan yu arthur and achilles tbh

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otherwise he wrecks your boon pool

warm nimbus
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best god all around is def aphro tho

slim geyser
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dio is my personal favorite call

warm nimbus
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followed by artemis and pos

umbral parrot
slim geyser
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Iโ€™d replace pos with zeus

vale ocean
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i dont really like dio's call, my favorite is probably pos

slim geyser
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because pos has terrible attacks and special

warm nimbus
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true but styx shredder is good for almost any aspect

patent mesa
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but sea storm!!!1!!11!

vale ocean
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especially when you have the boon that makes his call better

patent mesa
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demeter call is underrated imo

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if your cores aren't open for demeter it's a great way to get 10 chill stacks as small call

vale ocean
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true i like demeter

warm nimbus
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i do not like demeter call

slim geyser
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dem bad but call kinda okay

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like not my favorite pick but ill take it if theres nothing better

patent mesa
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same

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of course demeter also loves to aggressively give you three choices that are somehow all worse than each other

vale ocean
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is there something im not getting with hades' call or does it really only make you invisible

warm nimbus
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it boosts your damage while invisible too

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by a good amount i think

vale ocean
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yea thats what i thought

slim geyser
patent mesa
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no way

warm nimbus
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ouchhh

slim geyser
patent mesa
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at that point I'd just stand in lava then go outside

vale ocean
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i also am usually not a fan of zeus's boons

patent mesa
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on most aspects he has nothing of value to offer

slim geyser
patent mesa
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but he can scale with himself in extreme ways capped off by his absurdly powerful legendary

warm nimbus
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yeah zeus just really likes himself quite a bit

patent mesa
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if you get attack/smoldering, call, legendary, billowing strength, double strike from him it's gg

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too much high base damage and global buffs

warm nimbus
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also what on earth is up with cold embrace

merry root
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Zeus on Lucy is noice

warm nimbus
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like is it just me or does that actively make it worse

patent mesa
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lol delete that garbage boon

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worst duo

fast willow
warm nimbus
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like... who even thought that would be good??/

fast willow
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its a good source of 435 gold bouldy

patent mesa
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cold embrace and talos have really good synergy

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too bad they're both dumpster fire

warm nimbus
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fists look like a total pain to use

patent mesa
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anyone got replacement idea for aphro x demeter?

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what if weak enemies passively gained chill

warm nimbus
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ooooh great

patent mesa
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you could even keep the name

warm nimbus
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exactly what i was about to say

fast willow
patent mesa
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passion beo would be insane

warm nimbus
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and you know what? then it would have really good synergy with arctic blast

patent mesa
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good to give that boon more than two use cases that aren't downgrades

fast willow
warm nimbus
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hera would also be even better then

fast willow
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boss suddenly becomes unslow and you eat a spin

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ew

warm nimbus
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oh true

patent mesa
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I like it on beams

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but then I hate beams so

warm nimbus
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i like meme beams

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its a ridiculous build but its just so fun to use

patent mesa
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that's true, just too highroll for my blood though

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you need 50 moving parts to come together

warm nimbus
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well yeah thats why its not a serious build lmao

patent mesa
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hence my frustration with it

warm nimbus
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but god it is funny

patent mesa
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no doubt, it's gotta be the highest somewhat realistic sustained dps in the game

fast willow
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no not really

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its probably still worse than like a flood flare beo build in terms of DPS

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not to mention mirage passion, which still isnt as highroll as dio beo

patent mesa
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well my reasoning is that infernal beo has that brief downtime of picking up stones

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obviously infernal beo's dps averaged over runs is magnitudes higher than beams

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but you get my point

warm nimbus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_v-stIIe8A&t=2690s this is just really funny though

The idea was to make the final fight as hard as possible via the pact of punishment: 100% more damage taken, 30% more enemy health, Extreme Measures 4, harder minibosses, +40% enemy movement.

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โ–ถ Play video
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i love just seeing lasers all across the arena lmao

umbral parrot
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i

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got

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fully loaded

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if i get mirage shot as well

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i got mirage shot

warm nimbus
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yayyyy

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i.... need to sleep

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its almost 4am

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gn

fossil sphinx
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Say, how many stages does the final boss against hades have anyways?

gray apex
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The phases?

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Thereโ€™s 2

fossil sphinx
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Only 2? Wow I was so close to beating it

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He only had 1/10 health left on the second phase

stoic kiln
fossil sphinx
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First time what lol

stoic kiln
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was it your first time

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reaching hades

fossil sphinx
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No 2nd

stoic kiln
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helps a lot

fossil sphinx
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How do u get it

stoic kiln
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have you met the lady in asphodel

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who sings

fossil sphinx
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Yes

stoic kiln
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gift her nectar

fossil sphinx
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Ic

stoic kiln
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like 3 at the first level im p sure

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after that you just have to leaen the moves and its pretty easy to dodge em early game

umbral parrot
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I just one shot the bomb thrower boss in styx

gray apex
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What a gamer

umbral parrot
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Man

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The shades dad spawns are harder to deal with than dad himself

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Also, i noticed something

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When i shoot casts with hera, the casts just dont deal the damage and go through the bosses sometimes

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Like, 2 of them hit the boss and the others dont

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and i dont know why

gray apex
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Are you sure

umbral parrot
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yes

gray apex
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Sometimes the opposite happens

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Which is what you want

umbral parrot
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Yes

gray apex
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If you use Flurry Shot and combine it with Blown Kiss it messes with the hitboxes of the cast a bit so maybe that does it

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Usually you dont want Blown Kiss with Flurry Shot on Hera

umbral parrot
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It actually never happened with flurry shot

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i think

gray apex
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Maybe try recording it so it's easier to see

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But I don't play a lot of Hera so I wouldnt know

lyric hatch
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I had a genius idea: a pure magic weapon for Zagreus
(Unless there is one already)

deep grotto
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could be interesting tbh

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but its hard to imagine zagreus holding a magic wand lmao

indigo mason
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Do u guys have any hades irl items?

indigo mason
idle gate
solid cape
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Small homing projectiles could work
With a cool down after a certain number of shots

deep grotto
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ONE OF THE MAGIC BOOKS FROM THE TERRARIA AS A HIDDEN ASPECT

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imagine

merry root
indigo mason
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Btw why r we talking Abt it. R we going to get new weapons? Actually is the game getting updates or smth? I bought it like 2 days ago so no idea

gray apex
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Nope

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The game is finished and doesnt get updates anymore, just some minor bug fixes every now and then

merry root
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Having a non-live service game is kinda nice tbh

deep grotto
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those games are the best imo

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no stress of competition

indigo mason
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Then why r ppl that hav alrdy gotten every achievement, know everything Abt the game etc still play it? R they waiting for a sequel or dlc?

heavy sigil
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doing runs is fun

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lmfao

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that works

indigo mason
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Nah it doesn't

heavy sigil
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doing runs is fun even tho u did everything in the game

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also u never rlly finish

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theres always ur pb to beat, higher heat to do go

indigo mason
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Pb? Probability?

heavy sigil
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personal best

restive trout
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Personal Best

heavy sigil
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speedruns

signal aspen
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peanut butter

restive trout
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PindamonhangaBa.
Wait, that's for brazilians only.

indigo mason
heavy sigil
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also im like 70 hrs in, and i havent completed the storyline yet + only have high heats done on one weapon

gray apex
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Technically it ends but it just has a lot of replayability

signal aspen
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there is an end to the game but we just keep playing

heavy sigil
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it has late game stuff, but u can burnout

signal aspen
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imagine burning out

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couldnt be me

restive trout
signal aspen
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right mike

heavy sigil
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

gray apex
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right

signal aspen
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๐Ÿ˜”

indigo mason
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R we expecting a dlc/sequel or?

signal aspen
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no

restive trout
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Also, after 200 hours in my main save, I did something that can help with going on even further with something new, which is a save game on Hell Mode.

signal aspen
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making a new save is fun

restive trout
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Hell Mode is fun. My first escape on that was my ninth attempt.

indigo mason
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What's hell mode? I saw the option but didn't press it

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Obv

restive trout
# signal aspen making a new save is fun

Yeah I loved seeing the people, relationships, and the house before any improvements, renovations and narrative. It's really nice "going back to how it all started"

heavy sigil
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makes game harder ~~by 15% bouldy ~~

restive trout
# indigo mason What's hell mode? I saw the option but didn't press it

You already start at 5 heat (if you don't know what heat is, don't mind it yet, you will) and you also lose a small "cheat" the game gives you on normal mode, which is protecting you from incalculable amounts of burst damage (for example, if you're staring down a Splitter once they throw their 3 energy balls out, which without the protection are a grand total of maybe 200 damage).

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In short, it makes the game a lot harder at first.

heavy sigil
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idk if i should try to get good at rama or grind 50 heat for hestia

restive trout
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50 heat jesus

heavy sigil
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๐Ÿ’€ 50 heat makes me wanna die but i suck with rama

signal aspen
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50 heat

indigo mason
heavy sigil
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50 ๐Ÿ˜”

restive trout
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Then you're probably starting out. Nevermind it for now.

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Don't touch Hell Mode until you're way past the story being completely done.

gray apex
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Just try Beowulf

signal aspen
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or gilgamesh

heavy sigil
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._.

signal aspen
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true

restive trout
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#ded

heavy sigil
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the only reason im doing this is bc mods

signal aspen
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dont talk to me until you beat 60 heat

restive trout
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well i might as well block you forever then

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xD

deep grotto
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how much do i need to talk to olympian gods in order for them to accept ambrosia

heavy sigil
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i dont wanna have a god build and then get bent over by a 5 sac

gray apex
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Or maybe beat their heat record

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To prove a point

deep grotto
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dionysus keeps sniffin on my ambrosia but never accepts it

signal aspen
gray apex
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๐Ÿ—ฟ

signal aspen
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๐Ÿ—ฟ

restive trout
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A lot. But a lot of that is also locked by story progression and other things.

deep grotto
signal aspen
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yeah most dialogue in this game is rng

deep grotto
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no like the [GIFT] button

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it shouldnt be rng right?

signal aspen
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oh that

restive trout
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Yeah, but there's also determinism, like Aphrodite not accepting ambrosia until you finish all "romance" plots.

signal aspen
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i think its like 7 times to max them out on nectar

deep grotto
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its maxed

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with dio at least

restive trout
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Demeter doesn't accept it until you finish either the epilogue or all other gods, i dont remember

signal aspen
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aight now its rng

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wait whats dios favor

deep grotto
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for romance do i have to make romance with dusa than and mag

restive trout
signal aspen
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if you want to

restive trout
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=p

signal aspen
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you dont need to spoiler that

deep grotto
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nah this chat is spoiler free

restive trout
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Well, whatever you say.
Anyway, yes, you have to finish the plot with all three, but the plot moves on regardless of you establishing a relationship or not.

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You can opt out of all of them.

deep grotto
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okay thanks, didnt know there were some requirements for the gods to accept ambr.

restive trout
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There are several, it's a flustercuck. I recommend checking out the wikia, it has all the details on that.

deep grotto
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other than maxing out the hearts ofc

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definetly will

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thank you

heavy sigil
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no shot i died to meg

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๐Ÿ’€

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im so bad

lavish sinew
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Hello, guys. My save file went missing. How do I get it back?

restive trout
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Depends, are you religious? ๐Ÿ˜†

gray apex
restive trout
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Seems to be a game pass-exclusive issue? Man, every day I have a new reason to not get anything outside of Steam.

heavy sigil
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ok uh chaos pom or hammer i have an epic aphro attck

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and thats it

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legit chamber 3 of tart

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which do i go for

signal aspen
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what is this

gray apex
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Chaos

heavy sigil
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hestia 50

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i have a roll

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so chaos might work out

signal aspen
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ap2?

heavy sigil
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ye

gray apex
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forget the chaos

heavy sigil
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lmfao

signal aspen
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hammer bouldy

heavy sigil
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but like

gray apex
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Chaos is mostly gonna be to save time

heavy sigil
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what if i get lucky

gray apex
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You dont have that issue here

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Well you can gamble

heavy sigil
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and 90% attck dmg bouldy

gray apex
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It's early in the run anyway

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Worst thing you just reset

heavy sigil
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yeah

signal aspen
heavy sigil
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but like

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epic aphro takes so long to reset for

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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

gray apex
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You're not taking Rare Aphro?

heavy sigil
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i am but epic comes up so rarely that it seems like a waste to reset this

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if i had rare aphro rn i would have taken chaos years ago

gray apex
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Well it's up to you

restive trout
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i will enjoy reading about your continued deaths at the furies at this bloody 50 heat

gray apex
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Chaos is obviously a gamble

heavy sigil
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srcew it chaos time

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uh

signal aspen
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dies next chamber

heavy sigil
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everytime i attck -4 but i get +44% dash strike

restive trout
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HAHAHAH

gray apex
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That's good

restive trout
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AHAHAHAHA

signal aspen
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1 hp comfy

gray apex
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Pretty good in fact

heavy sigil
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๐Ÿ’€ uh

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hopefully i no die

restive trout
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love it

gray apex
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This is 50 heat

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So you pretend that this curse doesnt exist

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And if you die then you die

signal aspen
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thats true

heavy sigil
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bruh

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artemis boon but in the fire place

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or max hp room

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i mean its tart

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boon

signal aspen
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whats a fire place

restive trout
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i presume they mean a boss room idk

gray apex
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Erebus

heavy sigil
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the no hit area idk what its called bouldy

gray apex
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Probably

signal aspen
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oh that

restive trout
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OH

signal aspen
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take it bouldy

heavy sigil
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onion but didnt die

restive trout
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jesus christ ub how the hell are you doing 50 heat without knowing erebus' name

signal aspen
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wait does maimed curse immediately make you fail erebus

gray apex
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Nah

signal aspen
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ok

heavy sigil
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nah

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a chariot just spawned on me tho bouldy

signal aspen
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nice

restive trout
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now it's warm AND it stinks

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nice job

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xD

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I love hades' laugh when you fail erebus

gray apex
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I never heard it

restive trout
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and the little failure noise effect

gray apex
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Because I dont fail Erebus

signal aspen
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damn beat me to it

signal aspen
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real gamer afterall

restive trout
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32 heat was the furthers I went. I can reliably do it with zagreus' malphon or with hestia, but nothing else.

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And hell mode is annoying because the 5 mandatory heat are all like super crappy choices for speedrunning

signal aspen
#

dont speedrun on hell mode bouldy

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unless youre doing 50 heat speedruns

restive trout
#

well its not exactly speedrunning, but my malphon runs all depended on the bloody plume, so

signal aspen
#

why plume

restive trout
#

dodge stacking into infinity

signal aspen
#

dodge chance doesnt really help with tight deadline damage

gray apex
#

You dont need to dodge things if you kill things

restive trout
#

50% from the ruthless reflex, 15% from the fists, about 25-30% from the plume by the end

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luckily another 10-20 from hermes

gray apex
#

That's the I dont get hit build

heavy sigil
gray apex
#

But I dont do any damage aswell

heavy sigil
#

does that actually work the way i think it works

gray apex
#

Yes

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Dodge is additive

heavy sigil
#

lmao

gray apex
#

If you get 100% you're invincible

signal aspen
gray apex
#

The problem is that you need a build

#

Otherwise your damage is trash

restive trout
gray apex
#

You mean you have to pray that you get it

signal aspen
#

sometimes you just gotta settle for artemis attack

mint coral
#

At least artemis is on your pool for support fire

gray apex
#

And heavy knuckle

restive trout
gray apex
#

alright you lost me here

signal aspen
#

lmao

heavy sigil
#

uh

restive trout
#

?

signal aspen
#

td2 em4

#

๐Ÿ—ฟ

restive trout
#

it's not a fun run if i don't have super heavy metal blasting my ears by the end

gray apex
#

That's fair

signal aspen
#

just play it on spotify

heavy sigil
#

ive never tried em4

#

like ever

restive trout
signal aspen
#

i dont think ive ever heard it play ingame because i have music volume at 0

signal aspen
#

cant really listen to the music anymore since i have 600 hours in the game residentzag

gray apex
#

Same

#

But more hours

restive trout
#

i have 1000 hours in each xcom and i still leave the music on

signal aspen
#

ok\

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maybe the music in xcom is really good

restive trout
#

it's nice, nothing stellar, nothing bothersome, and hades' is much better

signal aspen
#

yeah thats true idk why i said that

restive trout
#

do you play on a good headset?

signal aspen
#

no

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its not a gamer headset

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even if i did have a good headset i wouldnt listen to the music ingame

restive trout
#

That might explain it. I have a few spotify playlists that are amazing on a good headset and sound like a word vomit on basic hardware

signal aspen
#

ok my headset is not that bad

restive trout
#

I turned it on on the car's radio and i almost shot myself

heavy sigil
#

how do u tell if a wave is the last wave of a room?

#

i legit died so much times reseting sd just to find out theres another room

signal aspen
#

you just feel it

restive trout
#

Uh. Experience. I guess. You get a feel for it.

heavy sigil
#

๐Ÿ’€

signal aspen
#

sometimes youre wrong

restive trout
#

yes

#

xD

#

but also zag comments on it a lot

#

"this gotta be the last of them"

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"cant be many more of those"

restive trout
#

thats the last wave every time

mint coral
#

Just dont get unarmored numbskulls in tartarus god trials

#

They just dont stop

restive trout
#

just don't get hit kappa

signal aspen
restive trout
#

i remember by endgame i didnt give a f about god trials because they werent any easier or harder than most rooms for me.
When I started over on HM and did my first one, I suffered so hard...

mint coral
#

I love how unarmored numbskulls arent supposed to appear on trials

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Yet they still do anyways

signal aspen
#

theyre not supposed to appear?

#

i didnt know that

restive trout
#

Never heard about it

mint coral
#

From pseudo

#

Tho it was armored numbskulls dusa

deep grotto
#

wrong link?

restive trout
#

"you dont have access to this link"

mint coral
#

Is from the speedrun server

deep grotto
#

oh

signal aspen
#

more hades bugs ๐Ÿ—ฟ

deep grotto
#

whats that red circle in the document room

signal aspen
#

thats the ares trial thing

heavy sigil
#

game is like

#

trolling me on purpose i swear

restive trout
signal aspen
#

oh

restive trout
#

I dont think you ever use it @deep grotto

#

I got as far as the story goes

#

never got access to it

signal aspen
#

nah you use it for nyx and chaos

deep grotto
#

oh it looks like the teleporters in the styx

mint coral
#

You use it for nyx-chaos storyline

restive trout
#

I mean, you dont "use it", you requisition that the builder fix it

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But you don't step in it and go somewhere yourself.

deep grotto
#

maybe hades uses it to encounter zag too

mint coral
#

He does

#

Zag comments on it the first time you check that

restive trout
#

Ah

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Nyx has access to it too, thats how she visits chaos. But I don't think anyone else does.

deep grotto
#

i wouldnt be surprised since shes been in the house longer than hades

#

yeah that would be cool

restive trout
#

That was another thing I loved at starting over

#

I hadn't been there in soooo long

void vigil
#

please dont bypass the swear filter ๐Ÿ˜…

restive trout
#

Dang it. They're watching.

deep grotto
#

lmao

gray apex
restive trout
#

I swear I hate these filters with all my life. But okay, I'll do my best.

mint coral
#

๐Ÿ”ซ dusa

signal aspen
#

stop fricking swearing

deep grotto
#

i actually do curse a little ๐Ÿ˜…

restive trout
#

I legit don't understand the reason for them as you can't be in discord if you're below 14 anyway, but at least this is a very toned down game in which the narrative fits. What really bothered me was this filter existing in the server for Cyberpunk 2077 where you literally chop people in 5 pieces for fun on a dialy basis. Like buddy, the last of your concerns is swearing.

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(Also I loved that this spurred the writers to come up with their own in-game swearing in the form of "blood and darkness")

heavy sigil
#

its just not a good look to have an offical game companyโ€™s discord thats verifed to have swears left and right

#

annoying but understandable

#

and prob for the best lmfao

restive trout
#

On a completely unrelated note, did anyone watch Arcane? I started using Malphon a hell of a lot more after being hyped by Vi punching everything.

deep grotto
#

oh yeah i watched it when it was first released

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just dont use the hype to play Vi in actual LoL

#

thats the worst mistake you can make

restive trout
#

I played LoL for years a long time ago, that's not a mistake I'd make.

lament atlas
#

I thought I was really good at this game... then I equipped the shield

restive trout
#

But by the gods, did Malphon feel like a Vi cosplay right then and there. Specially Zagreus' and Demeters' aspects.

restive trout
merry root
#

It took me a stupid amount of runs to finally get the shield down

merry root
#

Then you unlock aspects and all that goes out the window

lament atlas
#

I used the ahield then i killed hades and then I tried the sword and I couldnt dodge Anything

lament atlas
#

the shield is a crutch

restive trout
#

Yeah the aspects are also very different among themselves too. The game has so much replayability.

deep grotto
restive trout
lament atlas
#

dashes dont have i frames?

restive trout
#

EYE FRAMES

#

I SAW THAT

#

HAHAHAHAH

lament atlas
#

lmao

#

im an idiot

merry root
restive trout
#

I was about to go "no, it has arm frames all the time tho"

#

kappa

lament atlas
#

I said it in my head then quickly typed it out without thinking

restive trout
#

But to answer your question, it does, but very little.

#

Very, very little.

lament atlas
#

eye frame

restive trout
#

Well, "few", but since it's "eye frames"...

lament atlas
#

anyway one thing I really dont like about this game is...

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the visibility

#

the game is beuatiful dont get me wrong

#

but I cant see whats happening

restive trout
#

Not enough eye frames, huh.

lament atlas
#

although thats probably just a skill issue

deep grotto
#

i got used to it after a while

restive trout
#

Hell you mean by visibility tho? =p

warm nimbus
#

everyone talks about eye frames but i need more ear frames

lament atlas
deep grotto
#

you mean like the chambers are crowded or??

#

too much happening at once?

restive trout
#

It's definitely a skill most people can work on.

#

It helps if you have a good screen, of course.

lament atlas
restive trout
#

There's still a lot less crap going on in both these games than in Hades, though.

#

Specially as you increase number of enemies or give them special attacks with heat.

lament atlas
#

oh no the c word

#

cr*p

restive trout
#

the c word is fine, the s equivalent gets filtered

#

=p

#

See.

#

XD

lament atlas
#

and not f?

restive trout
#

What, feces? no.

#

The other f? Yeah.

#

That's kaput.

lament atlas
#

and yet they have charecter portraits like arphodite's

#

smh

restive trout
#

Aphrowho
Gimme Meg or Nyx any day of the week and twice on sundays over miss nekked

umbral parrot
#

You are talking about Lady Aphrodite?

restive trout
#

Is that what her toys call her?

#

xD

umbral parrot
lament atlas
#

I cant see the emojis

restive trout
#

I recommend an eye doctor.

lament atlas
#

my internet...

lament atlas
#

I saw both

restive trout
#

Dang it

lament atlas
#

lmao

restive trout
#

I MEAN GREAT

#

๐Ÿ™‚

lament atlas
#

AAGGGHH MY EYES

restive trout
#

not enough eye frames

#

โ˜ ๏ธ

lament atlas
#

god damn it

patent mesa
#

I used and abused it early on and was late to learning how to dodge with dashes

lament atlas
#

i hate asphodel

patent mesa
#

of course that crutch becomes a necessity as you start pushing 40+ heat

lament atlas
#

I kept walking and the magma

brisk trail
#

Yea asphodel had me messed up

patent mesa
#

one tip I have for asphodel is that lava only becomes an issue as it ramps up

slim geyser
#

just skip the whole biome dusa

patent mesa
#

often it's good to stand "in the lava" for short times but always make sure to get back on land periodically

#

of course that goes out the window if you take HS

lament atlas
#

I also came into this game literally just because of the BANGER music
because I dont like roguelikes with "meta progression" progression between runs

restive trout
patent mesa
#

apparently it's fine at 40+ with ranged weapons in particular

#

I'm considering trying for 50 heat beo and will probably have to put it on

restive trout
#

Good luck with the one-shooting urns.

patent mesa
#

yeah that won't be fun

#

especially if I opt for EM4 which I might

restive trout
#

I did it once for the prophecy.

#

I didn't do it again.

patent mesa
#

beo can handle FO2 EM4 better than most imo

#

can block both of the devastating consecutive spins

#

and can block that awful spear rush attack

cyan crown
#

Anyone played curse of the dead gods yet?-

restive trout
#

The shield in general is also the only weapon that can deny the bloody exploding skulls. Even deflect just repositions them. The shield swallows the damn things into another dimension for no good reason.

patent mesa
#

lol big fan of that interaction

restive trout
signal aspen
signal aspen
restive trout
#

haha i always found funny how hard it is to block some things if it's too close

#

you'd logically think it would be the other way around, but nope

patent mesa
#

EM3 asterius loves doing that

restive trout
#

^

patent mesa
#

if he jumps at you point blank gg

restive trout
#

Even the swipes from normal Theseus sometimes get through it

#

and I'm like I'M HOLDING A DAMN HUMAN-SIZED SHIELD

#

CMON

patent mesa
#

oh well still a broken aspect

restive trout
#

meh

#

I vote SHOTGUN

#

tch tch
POW
tch tch
POW
tch tch
POW

signal aspen
#

beo is definitely the most broken aspect

#

it has the most bugs

restive trout
#

lol

patent mesa
#

not to say that's not a boatload of aspect specific bugs lol

signal aspen
#

thunder flare backstab

patent mesa
#

oh I kinda heard about that

#

just thunder flare being able to backstab?

signal aspen
#

im tryin to find the bugsheet

restive trout
#

there is a bugsheet?

signal aspen
#

oh how could i forget the tiny flare bug

gray apex
restive trout
#

lol i had no idea thats how trippy worked for beo

#

thats why it bloody cleared everything for me ๐Ÿ˜†

gray apex
#

It's gud

#

But too inconsistent

#

So I barely play it

patent mesa
#

all the homies hate highroll trippy

restive trout
#

all the undead homies*

#

(plus the rats)

#

I find it funny how they managed to make such an action-packed game with no violence against sapient beings

#

I mean, other than the bosses, i guess, but

slim geyser
restive trout
#

I wonder about that part

#

I never quite looked up what the satyrs are

indigo mason
#

Actually I wanted to ask that anyway and since u mentioned iframes

gray apex
#

If you empty dash you have iframes for the whole duration of the dash

#

That's just a bug they're referring to with Beowulf where if your casts are popping you have no iframes at all

#

Even if you're dashing

gray apex
#

What

restive trout
#

in the

#

nvm

void vigil
#

empty dash meaning not attacking for the duration of the dash

#

which makes it a dash attack, which cancels your i frames

#

or however that works

restive trout
#

I didn't think it was for the whole dash, I was pretty sure the first few and last frames were not iframes (even on an empty dash)

indigo mason
#

Wait u don't hav iframes when u dash?

signal aspen
#

you do

#

unless you attack in the middle of the dash

restive trout
#

You do, I just thought it was only for most of the dash, not all of it

dusty charm
#

Hey it is I the person who for some reason decided to 100% absolutely everything in hades

#

I have many life regrets

#

mostly this

fleet spade
#

my game doesnt save what i do? i did turn off antivirus/firewall and reinstalled game

restive trout
#

good luck with the bloody chaos fishes

dusty charm
#

I got so much else to do

#

so im not to worried

#

I just now finished the darkness theme

restive trout
#

i did pretty much everything a long time ago and never finished the chaos fishes

dusty charm
#

so now I only need darkness for security rank

restive trout
#

"only"

#

๐Ÿ˜†

restive trout
fleet spade
#

ok thanks

dusty charm
#

I need about 30ish diamonds.

#

Ambroisa, titan blood are my biggest concerns right now

void vigil
#

The rest of the resources you need for the resource director are a joke compared to the amount of darkness it takes to reach the final rank

#

It just takes so long to get it

restive trout
#

Thankfully it's entirely optional. If there was an achivement for that, the 100%ers would be mouthing the f off the game on steam reviews xD

fleet spade
mint coral
restive trout
#

Yeah I mean, I wouldn't know how to help anyway. Sorry.

pale barn
#

4th time i lost the no damage cause of satyr poison ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

#

Im getting close tho

patent mesa
green lion
#

for the rail aphro attack or zeus

gray apex
#

What rail aspect

green lion
#

zag

gray apex
#

Do you have Spread fire

green lion
#

nope still first zone i have aphro epic attack but zues offering the red one

#

heroiec idk how to type it

gray apex
#

Take it

#

Aphro attack or any% boost on any rail that isnโ€™t Hestia is a very poor choice

green lion
#

omg its so much better

gray apex
#

Aphro is a potentially good god to have on your Special

#

But yea on the Attack itโ€™s just bad without Spread Fire or Hestia

#

But now that you picked up Zeus attack donโ€™t take Spread fire from the hammers if offered

#

Because itโ€™ll make it worse

patent mesa
#

@gray apex just to clarify, what's best attack on zag spread fire?

green lion
#

so for the hammer delta chamber piercing fire or targeting sytem

patent mesa
#

delta imo

patent mesa
#

targeting system isn't bad I don't think

patent mesa
gray apex
#

Delta is pretty safe, Targeting is global damage so itโ€™s cool too

#

Piercing is pretty trash on this imo

gray apex
#

I forgot

patent mesa
#

bruh

#

I guess dash strikes are op on spread

gray apex
#

It was WR for a bit

#

As in aspect WR

patent mesa
#

the idea of gun ME is weird to me

#

but it does make sense

gray apex
#

With Spread fire itโ€™s kind of a melee weapon

patent mesa
#

yep yep

signal aspen
#

ME is good on hestia too

gray apex
#

๐Ÿ—ฟ

pale barn
gray apex
#

Itโ€™s not that good

#

A fun option but never the best

#

Even for a hitless run

pale barn
#

i figured it made the most sense xd

#

what would you pick

gray apex
#

Just force the gods you need for the first 2 biomes

#

Then pick coin purse or hourglass

#

Or maybe Egg if you find an ix

vale ocean
#

What is touch of stix and how have I never seen it

gray apex
#

Touch of Styx requires SD on the mirror

vale ocean
#

Oh.

#

That explains alot

gray apex
#

Indeed

restive trout
#

"SD"?

slim geyser
#

stubborn defiance

restive trout
#

Ah. Yes, this is the upside of trying to fulfill the prophecies. You go to the wikia, check pre-requisites, and find yourself using gameplay options you wouldn't otherwise. You learn and grow.

warm nimbus
#

omfg istg i never get fully loaded whenever i run hera or beo but i get it like every other run

slim geyser
#

artemis says no fully loaded rights

vale ocean
#

Finally after like 15 runs of getting chaos boons i finally got the beowulf phrase

mint coral
#

Is a fact

gray apex
#

I actually think I didnt get it a single time during my Beo grind

devout terrace
#

this run is timeless

warm nimbus
#

playing rama, had point blank and chain

#

used anvil

#

lost chain

#

great

#

gained repulse and explosive

mint coral
#

Peak anvil

warm nimbus
#

two best rama hammers lets go

icy knoll
#

why does repulse shot exist

#

is it supposed to be useful or did the devs add it as a joke

warm nimbus
#

surely its a joke because its just literally worse than nothing

#

theres no situation in which i can see it being useful

restive trout
#

Huh. Zillion hours into the old save, still dialogues to unlock. Meg appreciates when you renovate the lounge enough, and you ask skelly about going inside once you get the skeleton painting.

merry root
patent mesa
#

wait ME has combo damage?

patent widget
#

Extreme measures Theseus and asterius is fun

#

Made it a little more challenging, Artemis Arthur aspect build made it easy

slim geyser
#

watchmojo

#

do we have something to talk about

amber bluff
#

watchmojo got the release year wrong smh

vast lodge
#

is there a weapon that ppl usually suck at

#

bc i have no idea why but the bow doesn't work for me

vast lodge
#

like ppl say the bow is safe bc it's ranged but i die the most on it..... literally i take less damage using the sword (nemesis)

slim geyser
#

play hera

#

hera good

#

its all about learning the patterns ngl have you been dash striking and power shotting on bow

vast lodge
#

oh yeah hera is my fave bow aspect tbh, poseidon cast is so fun on it

#

yeah i've been dash striking but not power shotting, too small brain to get the timing down lmao

slim geyser
#

try crush shot + snow burst on hera

vast lodge
#

oh that sounds like a fun combo, i'll go for it next time

#

honestly i just prefer nemesis or talos or beowulf bc haha monkey brain button mash

#

eris too with the 3 round burst hammer and 3 specials hammer

#

idk why but the spear (achilles) doesn't work for me either, i find the auto aim on the special wonky sometimes

slim geyser
#

achillies ZOOMS

vast lodge
#

yeah it do be zooming but in the wrong damn direction LMAO

mint coral
#

Achilles auto aim is way too good

#

It justs snaps and doesnt let you aim lmao

vast lodge
#

i think i just accidentally move the joystick before letting go of the special button which changes the aim at the last minute

#

which is probably my bad, small brain problems

#

this is whjy i prefer unga bunga with sword

#

i know that to get better at this game u gotta get more strategic about playing

#

this is why i'll probably never get up to high heat lmao

mint coral
vast lodge
#

oh damn it is? that's reassuring lmao

#

ngl the one aspect i win with every single time is eris

#

it's just idiot proof

mint coral
#

Eris is oonga bunga incarnate

vast lodge
#

even if u get super unlucky with boons it doesn't matter

#

just special, dash into special, hold atk lmao

#

the runs where i get 3 specials and 3 round burst atk hammer are just a joke

mint coral
#

Have.you gotten cluster + rocket bomb?

vast lodge
#

oh i haven't tried those actually

#

sounds fun, i should branch out

mint coral
#

Is eris most broken hammer combo lmao

#

400 base dmg from your special kinda good

vast lodge
#

ahh ok, i just like not having to reloadf

#

it feels better killing the eye things in elysium before they respawn

mint coral
#

Delta chamber cozy

#

Gotta keep those iframes on dash strikes

vast lodge
#

off topic but yesterday i ran into the witches circle without deflect for the first time and god i've been so lucky til now

#

with sword too

#

that was umm. not fun!

mint coral
#

Sword.special is nice for that

#

Just gotta time it right

vast lodge
#

yeah it helped, they still chunked the hell outta my hp tho

mint coral
#

I havent had problems with it for a while tbh

#

Companions too good

slim geyser
#

same

#

meg them witches hell yeah

vast lodge
#

oops

#

i only have than's companion because i was tryna romance him lmfao

#

what's the best companion tho

mint coral
#

Meg is the most used

#

Quick and great dmg enough for almost all mini bosses armor

vast lodge
#

got it thanks

#

oh and you can't summon during the hades fight at all right?

mint coral
#

You need permission from dad first

slim geyser
#

no

#

after a point he gives you permission

vast lodge
#

ahhh

slim geyser
#

and i think you can use bouldy snd maybe skelly?

mint coral
#

Tho you can use bouldy/skelly before that

vast lodge
#

huh, i see

mint coral
#

They dont work for dad so makes sense dusa

vast lodge
#

yeah i love the attention to detail in this game

#

like when i didn't choose artemis for the trial and used her call during the trial, she was like "are you kidding me"

#

they really put in voicelines for every situation

mint coral
#

Sigil of the dad vs himself is really fun

#

FATHER! - im right here

vast lodge
#

LMAOOO wait that one turns u invisible right

#

i haven't gotten it yet so wouldn't know but that's so fun to imagine

mint coral
#

And a global dmg boost for its duration

vast lodge
#

ooo that's good bc just invisibility by itself wouldn't be worth it imo

mint coral
#

Also clears poison/makes enemy repeat last move

slim geyser
#

sigil good

#

for speedrunning

vast lodge
mint coral
#

Yes

#

Is sigil of the dead

#

Or dad call, whatever you wanna call it

vast lodge
#

yeah i just wondered if it was a typo or a pun lol

#

this game is great i wish i'd played it when it first came out

#

2 years late to the party but oh well

mint coral
#

I remember the times when dad call had a normal charge bar

#

Also eris buff lasting 8 seconds lmao

vast lodge
#

8 seconds ... i see why they nerfed it

#

i mean it's not even a nerf ngl? ur gonna be using ur special constantly anyway

mint coral
#

Didnt matter too much tbf, as you used special, yeah exactly

#

Dad call being 4 bars instead of the now 2 was great tho