h1-discussion

[pseudo kernel]

chunk damage

[reef zodiac]

Rama is goated

[leaden birch]

what does

shared damage do

exactly

nvm think I understand now

this is crazy

[pseudo kernel]

If you put shared damage on multiple foes and hit one of the foes the others will be damaged by a fraction of the damage you inflicted… i believe it only works on your attack and special be i cant remember lol

[leaden birch]

is thunder flourish good for the special

[brisk trail]

on which aspect

[reef zodiac]

Rama special? Yes

Zeus, Dio, and Ares are all extremely good

And Demeter is also pretty good with killing freeze

Rama special is very flexible

It’s one of the things I like most about the aspect

[leaden birch]

ok yeah

rama goated

[reef zodiac]

Yep

[brisk trail]

just wait till you get triple shot

[reef zodiac]

Twin and Triple are especially insane, yeah

[brisk trail]

then add point blank shot

or w/e it's called

[reef zodiac]

Yeah point blank and perfect are the ideal second hammers

[arctic flax]

cthonic vitality vs dark regeneration, thoughts?

[gray apex]

Chthonic Vitality

[arctic flax]

I feel like dark is better when you're doing a run where you have a few bounties already done and just have the last one left but I'd love to hear thoughts

[gray apex]

Dark regen will only heal you after bosses if no bounties, and anything else is barely any healing

[arctic flax]

yeah fair point, it's pretty situational

[gray apex]

Getting the constant +3 is just better

[arctic flax]

yeah especially for the new heat levels

[fast willow]

dark regen bad

[gray apex]

It adds up if your play is clean enough

[leaden birch]

ok

perfect shot, sniper shot or chain shot for rama

meh

chain shot I guess

[gray apex]

Perfect Shot is correct there

Chain doesn’t do anything for bosses, it’s decent for rooms and Heroes but that’s about it

Sniper is just so hard to work with, and also blocks Twin which is a massive downside

[reef zodiac]

Perfect is great

Literally the 3rd or 4th best possible option

[leaden birch]

whoopsie

[reef zodiac]

I said it right here

[leaden birch]

double whoopsie

[leaden birch]

h

[reef zodiac]

h?

[rich gulch]

What would be the best attack boon for flurry fire?

Considering ulterior boons from the same god.

[twin thistle]

zeus

[rich gulch]

Thanks guys. Also imagine getting caught out by the big butterfly ball in Elysium at high heat when you're running a rail special build.

[reef zodiac]

Rail special build?

[rich gulch]

Lucifer

[strong ridge]

[rich gulch]

your confusion is always welcome.

[strong ridge]

just curos

[reef zodiac]

Triple bomb?

[rich gulch]

Was going for it. Died-

[reef zodiac]

Bruh you can’t be special-centered Luci in Elysium with no triple bomb

[signal aspen]

hazard bomb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/772250946990374942.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[reef zodiac]

On Luci

[rich gulch]

Lucy can be whatever I wish it to be.

[gray apex]

Yes

[reef zodiac]

Seems like what you wish it to be is painfully slow

[rich gulch]

I do thankfully not suffer from ADHD impatience when it comes to my runs.

[reef zodiac]

But wouldn’t it be nice to do damage

And not die to BBall

Aka the DPS check

[rich gulch]

It's just a matter of skill.

[gray apex]

Indeed

[rich gulch]

Related question though - which is more effective, Poseidon attack with eventual Seastorm duo, or Zeus attack with all associated Zeus boons for a pure attack build?

[reef zodiac]

Or a 2 seconds encounter if you’d prefer

[reef zodiac]

Absolutely Zeus and it’s not close

Super Soaker is fun but it also sucks

[rich gulch]

Thank you, my friend.

[signal aspen]

super soaker gud

you just have to be ready for a 5 min tart

[reef zodiac]

[signal aspen]

and maybe asphodel

[reef zodiac]

And maybe Hades fight

[signal aspen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766637757726722/835126879341772810/bouldypet.gif

[rich gulch]

I've always wanted to kill my father with a water gun.

[reef zodiac]

📸

[signal aspen]

relatable

[rich gulch]

Alright, so say I take Zeus's strike, which two hammers would be ideal? Somehow I get the feeling that the infinite chamber one might not be the best choice.

[signal aspen]

triple bomb

everything else kinda meh

dont take eternal chamber

[reef zodiac]

Most are good, but Triple is definitely best

Luci doesn’t really have useless hammers like other aspects

[rich gulch]

Say I don't get triple bomb during the run.

[signal aspen]

reset

[reef zodiac]

Just pick the best option

Lol

You can’t really plan hammers ahead of time

[rich gulch]

As you noted, they're all good. But fair enough.

[signal aspen]

idk about you but i route all my runs

[rich gulch]

@signal aspen can you preselect starting hammers with routing (if they appear at the start of the run)? This is all new to me.

[signal aspen]

Idk ask cgull

[reef zodiac]

Kinda

You just have to reset a lot in order to get the hammer you want C1

Then just give up instead of dying to replay the seed

[tawdry fossil]

do chaos strike boons help enough on eris rail speedruns(damage is already pretty low but it could more than double with the special buff)? or are other blessings usually better?

[reef zodiac]

Nah strike does very little

Rarity is pretty good

But mostly you just take chaos for the free room

[mint coral]

special dmg good

[tawdry fossil]

is it worth it at atleast epic?

[reef zodiac]

I mean

[reef zodiac]

Oh true I forgot lmao

[tawdry fossil]

yeah with rockets its pretty nice

[reef zodiac]

It’s not bad

It does just about nothing but like

[tawdry fossil]

and clockets is just

[reef zodiac]

Most of them do nothing

[tawdry fossil]

amazing

[reef zodiac]

So idk can’t hurt

[tawdry fossil]

i use quite a few rolls on chaos lol

just to get a special or attack one that doesnt absolutely murder me, like maimed

[mint coral]

70% dmg buffs to my 10 dmg pellets

[reef zodiac]

Don’t

No point

[slim geyser]

i’ll usually use up to one

[tawdry fossil]

i get very unlucky with them

[reef zodiac]

You’re not gonna roll into a great option because there are none

[slim geyser]

well that’s wrong

[reef zodiac]

Literally just take something that doesn’t hurt you

[tawdry fossil]

this run, I got one with all maimed and the other one that damages you when you use your special

[reef zodiac]

They’re speedrunning Eris

[slim geyser]

oh wait yeah

[reef zodiac]

So then take the third option idk

[tawdry fossil]

omg 17 damage total game changer

[slim geyser]

special damage is good, rarity is okay

[mint coral]

dmg when special isnt thaaaat bad

[tawdry fossil]

but couldnt the same apply to the eris buff?

i mean its decent when combined

[reef zodiac]

Don’t “use quite a few rolls on chaos” in Eris speedruns. That’s a waste

[mint coral]

you dont use eris buff for the attack itself

[tawdry fossil]

yeahhh but it slows me down bcuse i have to remember not to use it

[reef zodiac]

Use it

[mint coral]

eh, just use it

[reef zodiac]

Just don’t get hit

Literally

[tawdry fossil]

hey look at that

[reef zodiac]

I take maimed on my speedruns all the time

[tawdry fossil]

EVERY NEW PLAYER IN THE WORLD TAKE THIS ADVICE TO HEART

[mint coral]

also is not like dmg when attack on fists or something lol

[tawdry fossil]

DONT GET HIT

ez wins

[reef zodiac]

It’s a speedrun lol

[mint coral]

you dont use special that much to make the dmg add over

[tawdry fossil]

i try to avoid it

[reef zodiac]

If you can’t not get hit then don’t take it I guess

[tawdry fossil]

bcuse the damage could possible kill me

[reef zodiac]

But don’t use “quite a few rolls” on Chaos

That’s just a bad idea

[tawdry fossil]

no i dont take very much damage

tartarus is pretty much hitless, and i might take a few hits from the hydra

those are pretty clean

[reef zodiac]

So then take maimed

[tawdry fossil]

its only elysium onwards i guess where i wouldnt take maimed

[reef zodiac]

I don’t understand

[tawdry fossil]

yeah ill start going for it

just thought it was bad or something

[reef zodiac]

I’m not saying “always take it” lmao

[tawdry fossil]

rail is pretty fast, and i thought getting hit for 4 damage every bullet would suck

[reef zodiac]

For Eris it’s rarely worth taking since there aren’t really many good options from chaos

[mint coral]

oh on attack im probably not taking it
im a coward

special is fine

[tawdry fossil]

i always thought the attack and special buffs were amazing

[reef zodiac]

Attack buff is useless

[tawdry fossil]

on chaos

[reef zodiac]

Special is decent

Attack damage does basically nothing

I’d be surprised if it even saves 3 seconds at best

Same with dash strike

[tawdry fossil]

yeah well maybe im just getting weirdly used to it. my luck is horrible

i havent gotten clockets in nearly 15 runs

[reef zodiac]

Wym used to it lmao

Clockets or not, attack damage from chaos is not helpful

[tawdry fossil]

i usually rely on clockets for damage but without it, its hard to build up enough dmg

[reef zodiac]

Um

You seem to really not be hearing what I’m saying

Attack damage from chaos does not help your damage

It is bad

[tawdry fossil]

no no i get your point

i need to remember that for my next runs

thats all

[reef zodiac]

Yeah I basically never ever roll chaos on Eris

Unless I have too many rolls and clockets

To look for special dmg

[mint coral]

and certain curses?

[reef zodiac]

Yeah maybe

But there’s not a lot of bad curses

[mint coral]

yeah eris is chill with the curses

[reef zodiac]

Just roiling and dash distance reduction

[mint coral]

roiling is foes right?

[tawdry fossil]

dash is pretty bad but aside from that most are pretty lax

[reef zodiac]

Yeah

[mint coral]

i also dont like the cant see rewards one but idk, just get lucky

[reef zodiac]

Roiling, halting, and maimed in Elysium

[tawdry fossil]

i dont like that one very much either since it slows my time down a bit

[reef zodiac]

Yeah this one kinda sucks at the beginning/middle of biomes

At the end it’s pretty free though because it will only apply to like 1 chamber

[tawdry fossil]

yeah but then its possible to miss really important boons/midshops to save time

[mint coral]

oh yeah those curses at the end are great

"oh no i dont know what is next after the mid biome"

[reef zodiac]

[mint coral]

the ones i always find funny are the -hp tho
"eh i can live on 17 hp"

then DD is gone

[reef zodiac]

Maimed makes you live at 1hp

[mint coral]

depends what maimed is no?

like for special while playing beo

[tawdry fossil]

my favourite to get are abyssals, paupers, addled, and slippery

barely affect the game, and addled doesnt matter since i dont play cast builds

[reef zodiac]

Maimed is attack

[mint coral]

i thought all of them had maimed as prefix

[reef zodiac]

Maimed the curse I mean

[gray apex]

Maimed Flayed Addled

Attack special cast

[mint coral]

oh

[gray apex]

yup

I wish I knew Chaos icons instead of prefixes

[strong ridge]

you, knowing boon names
me, reading the descriptions on my xxxth run

[slim geyser]

me

[tawdry fossil]

Will a chaos attack boon affect my dash strike as well?

[twin thistle]

yeah

[lone kernel]

sad meme beam noises

[brisk trail]

does swift floursih make zeus shield special hit faster

[silver fern]

Yo i just fought thesius and asterius with the desperate measures pact for the first time. Wtf was that hell lmao

[leaden birch]

I'd think so

h

[leaden birch]

Yeah extreme measures 3 for the first time is

A lot

[silver fern]

I never wanna see thesius with ||dual machine guns|| again

[leaden birch]

You don't need to spoil it here I think

The spoiling stuff is only for #h1-for-new-players

[silver fern]

Oh well just being safe my b

[leaden birch]

Fair enough

Playing whatever weapons dark thirst picks so my heat's slowly going up
Next time darker thirst picks bow

I'm gonna have to

Fight EM4 hades

[silver fern]

Also, 90% of the time i find patroclus when i havent even used a death defiance. Where is he when i have none 😭

[leaden birch]

TRUE

Or a kiss of styx

Always shows up when I need one and I'm low on money

But when I don't need one at all

And have the money

It's always there

Wait

Doesn't show up*

Wait no

Now I confused myself

When I need one it's always there but I'm low on money

[silver fern]

Then i use all of my re rolls on the shop for mothing

[leaden birch]

But when I have the money to buy one

It's not there

When I need it

The game always wants to

Engage in minor amounts of trolling

some tomfoolery even

[silver fern]

Outright preposterous

[leaden birch]

Think I'm gonna

100% the game in a few weeks

I'm at 82% iirc

Then I can finally go back to doing other stuff

[tough pelican]

I just tried it, it's actually not too bad
I suck at fighting games though

Still a pretty cool game

[fast willow]

kiss of styx cant show up if you have all your death defiances

[versed wraith]

death defiances is fricken life saver in my earlier runs ><

[candid laurel]

aspect of arthur mann i love it soo much

the 50hp bonus

the dmg

the special

like i think its a best aspect

i didn't try shield but other than that I've tried all of them

[candid laurel]

you can just purge a boon if it shows up after the boss

[brisk trail]

[candid laurel]

sekiro 👍 👍

[brisk trail]

[gray apex]

sekiro gud

[brisk trail]

it's taking me longer to do zeus 40 heat than arthur 40 heat

[gray apex]

Zeus hard

If you're on KBM swap Special to RMB

[brisk trail]

it is

m1 attack, m2 special, m3 summon, m4 call, m5 cast

[gray apex]

Yea that should be fine

[brisk trail]

[gray apex]

Gonna take a bit of getting used to

You can release your Special right after a bullrush, you can also recall your Special while blocking

[brisk trail]

I had a good run going, flourish, jolted, double strike

died to lernie

[gray apex]

Yea it happens

What pact are you using

[brisk trail]

I'll ss is hold on

https://imgur.com/E54IdJQ

[gray apex]

That's good

[brisk trail]

for arthur it was same but swapped DC2 for AP1

DC is a no go for arthur

[gray apex]

Yup

If you feel like it you can use HS and lower the CF or even remove it completely with JS1

But you dont need to

[brisk trail]

but yeah FO2/HL5 it's very easy to die lol

[gray apex]

Yea

FO2 HL5 Lernie is no joke

Or any boss really

[brisk trail]

the price you pay for not sacrificing your build

[gray apex]

You can do EM4

[brisk trail]

no thank you

[gray apex]

EM4 fun

[brisk trail]

it is, I did it once, when I was super overpowered

but with FO and HL

[gray apex]

You can still get amazing builds on this but yea FO and HL means you actually have to play well

Handful of mistakes and you're dead

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/903215893998346251/930458938707689564/unknown.png

[brisk trail]

yeah I like it when enemies are buffed but you also are really strong

[gray apex]

[brisk trail]

very nice

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/934746515824578560/3b5a6b76-5c95-4e56-a07c-37052eb4d096.gif

[brisk trail]

does empowering flight activate after every zeus special hit?

"After your Special hits, your next 2 Attacks deal +80% damage."

[gray apex]

First Special

hit

[brisk trail]

alright

imagine if it was after every one

[gray apex]

If your disk is hitting things continuously you still get the bonus for the first hit then you have to recall it and throw it again to get another buff so yea it's not that good

copium hammer

Explosive Return / Breaching Rush / Cshot / Sudden Rush are all better

Ferocious Guard aswell

[brisk trail]

pulverising blow any good?

[gray apex]

Oh yea it's also pretty solid

[brisk trail]

I figure double damage is nice

[gray apex]

Because you do standing strikes pretty often

Yea I'd definitely take it on Zeus shield

[brisk trail]

32>40 is such a big jump

[gray apex]

At 32 you can still avoid some bs like HL or FO or even take BP1 or EM2

At 40 you have to take everything or ruin your build

Which you shouldnt do

[brisk trail]

yup

I'll show what I had at 32

https://imgur.com/8tUpWUK for fast weapons I switched AP for DC and hestia I took HL5 but no FO

or sometimes AP for HL2

[gray apex]

That works ig

If you feel like resetting a bit to get your Jolted / hammer you can do AP1 at 40 too

CF0 means you'll buy more boons / poms / hearts

AP1 not fun tho

[brisk trail]

i hate when my 2 options are shop or coin

gimme heart pls

[gray apex]

hearts comfy

[brisk trail]

what would you recommend on zeus shield attack? I was thinking demeter or aphro to make the bosses less scary

[gray apex]

That is usually what I prefer but if they're not in your pool / dont offer it then I just take whatever

Weak and Chill are good

[brisk trail]

I want zeus and athena for sure. Probably aphrodite for weak and demeter insta chill on getting hit is nice

[gray apex]

Athena for DDs is pretty nice

[brisk trail]

oh yeah that DD trick is pretty cool, I just need to remember to use it

can you find deathless stand and last stand in one run?

[gray apex]

yup

[brisk trail]

nice

[gray apex]

Lots of good synergies with Zeus

[fast willow]

ap at 32 bad

[gray apex]

I forced Dio sometimes in Asphodel because the Call is too good to pass up

[brisk trail]

yeah true

[fast willow]

I don't take AP until 40 atleast

[gray apex]

It's like a bit of everything

[leaden birch]

Nono I realized that

I had a real struggle trying to actually figure out what I was trynna say

[subtle trail]

You’re probably not that bad

The problem is that most fighting games are filled with tryhards

[reef zodiac]

Aka people who care about being good at the game and put a lot of time into improving

[tough pelican]

true

[brisk trail]

getting good at fighting games takes alot of time and mental effort

[tough pelican]

I generally do suck at fighting games tho, I played brawlhalla for a while and even against bots I kept losing

[brisk trail]

I'll continue this in #video-games

[tough pelican]

yeah

[tough pelican]

I just unlocked lament of orpheus let's go

I'd been wanting to do that for a long time

[south sapphire]

I'm so close to the true ending

After 3 months

Like 120 runs

[sweet pivot]

I'm trying to get second statue what 16 curse are the easiest to use ?

[gray apex]

TD2 MM UC BP1 EM2/3

TD3 even better

[leaden birch]

ok I finished the epilogue

so

I guess all that's left is

100%-ing the game then

huh

[strong ridge]

now the game begins

[slim geyser]

wow zeus’ cast used to be bolt shot? and posideon’s was storm shot

tbh i like storm as a name more then flood

[crude surge]

I like TITIAN TOPPLER more than divine dash

[reef zodiac]

NASTY DASH

[crude surge]

But pancake

Nasty dash can’t backstab

[reef zodiac]

No but it’s NASTY

[crude surge]

But can it topple…

[umbral parrot]

[high island]

But storm kinda implies water + lightning. So Flood makes more sense.

[slim geyser]

true

[slim geyser]

nasty toppler

[crude surge]

Would be funny if they called it storm flare and then made it so it still doesn’t proc sea storm

[slim geyser]

[reef zodiac]

Beo spaghetti code giveth and it taketh away

[tawdry fossil]

are there any weapons in particular that benefit from lambent plume? Im looking to max it out to unlock hermes favor

[raw herald]

I guess zag sword and zag fists

Move speed and dodge chance both stack in the way that makes the number better, so improving that is good

[tawdry fossil]

would demeter fists work fine

i never maxed out either of those zag aspects

[raw herald]

It’ll benefit the same as every other wep

[tawdry fossil]

just looking to complete some runs really quickly to max it out as fast as possible

[raw herald]

Probably something like hestia then

[tawdry fossil]

whats the time limit to get the buffs? does it differ for each room?

[raw herald]

Because it’s fast even with no boons

It’s like 45s

[tawdry fossil]

oh true true thats probably better

[raw herald]

Easily doable if you’re sub 10

It’s longer for boss fights

[tawdry fossil]

i like hestia but there's almost no good boons with it

[tawdry fossil]

i just hit sub 10 today lol, about half an hour ago

9:46

eris rail

[raw herald]

Yeah I saw on speedcord

[tawdry fossil]

ig im using hestia next with plume and praying i unlock artemis's heart along the way

[brisk trail]

if you use hera with chain shot how does it work? damage the first enemy with the bloodstone or does it end up on the final enemy it hits?

[reef zodiac]

First enemy

[sweet pivot]

Isnt it kinda wierd for zagreus to be with Thanatos because he is like the god of death or something so he has to be really old

[analog dew]

I guess a little, but Zagreus is who knows how old, and he’s also like a full grown man.

But yeah, maybe a bit weeiirrrd

[brisk trail]

Thanatos

One of the hottest male videogame characters imo

[brisk trail]

ALSO I wish there was a scythe as a usable weapon

[leaden birch]

In general

Even more weapons would be cool

Imagine if the game was properly moddable

We'd prob be able to get more gods honestly
Replicating the game's style would be really hard but there'd probably be a handful

Modding a weapon would be really hard too but imagine

Like, a scythe, maybe a whip like that of the furies, uhhhhh

...aand I ran out of ideas

A big ol' sledgehammer maybe?

[brisk trail]

Axe

Axe, scythe, whip is all I can think of

[leaden birch]

And sledgehammer yes

[brisk trail]

Ehhh

[leaden birch]

...a Mace too, maybe?
Though I guess a mace could be an aspect of the sledgehammer

Or a stand-alone, then

[sweet pivot]

What about Theseus's gun chariot

[iron oyster]

Aspect of asterius would be really cool

Then the guy’s like “bro why would you make a knockoff of my gear”

[brisk trail]

[iron oyster]

Imagine a rideable vehicle sold by Charon

[iron oyster]

I’d say a club would be better and more flexible

The hammer could be the aspect of Hephaestus I guess? Boosts Daedalus hammers

[leaden birch]

THE ZAG-MOBILE

[iron oyster]

Ah yes

Run people over

[leaden birch]

so true

[iron oyster]

Equipped with dual exagryphs at the front

Faster than theseus’s bs chariot

Name it “bloodlust” or something since I heard somewhere that zag was the god of blood in the hades universe

[leaden birch]

Yea

Achilles mentioned it

[brisk trail]

I hate the jumpy mfs in asphodel when I'm tryna use zeus

[leaden birch]

jumpy

[raw herald]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Soundtrack this tells you when every song plays, there’s probably spoilers for final boss/later regions so don’t click if you don’t want to see that @brisk trail

Ok nvm it doesn’t spoil the final boss

[mint coral]

https://youtu.be/x6AmMFEEE_w

[brisk trail]

LMAO I feel this

actually pain when you send out zeus shield and they jump away then you run after them but forget to retrieve the shield first

[atomic pier]

how do i get the aspect of beowulf on my shield?

[mint coral]

#h1-story-discussion pins

[atomic pier]

ah cool cheers

[brisk trail]

Can epic greater haste be chosen by Eurydice and become heroic?

[gray apex]

Yes

Hermes rarity can only be upgraded through Eury

[obsidian merlin]

Does Support Fire proc on every single attack, even for rapid fire Rail, or is there a cooldown?

[raw herald]

0.167s cool-down

[obsidian merlin]

And do the Support Fire arrows only hit the target you attacked? So if you one shot it, is the arrow wasted or does it find another target?

[gray apex]

Finds another target

Pretty sure

[raw herald]

🤔

[void vigil]

@brisk trail hey, that goes in #self-promotion

[brisk trail]

no

sorry

wasn´t for this chat

[brisk trail]

sorry sorry sorry

[void vigil]

that’s okay

[sweet pivot]

What's the best weapon?

[raw herald]

What do you wanna do

[fast willow]

quick before pancake arrives

[raw herald]

Speed? Heat? Fun?

[fast willow]

there is no best weapon

if you're playing casually

[signal aspen]

Beowulf

[raw herald]

:/

[fast willow]

😐

[signal aspen]

:croven:

[reef zodiac]

Definitely depends on context ofc

[gray apex]

[reef zodiac]

I’ll never argue against this ofc

But if they ask for best weapon, the answer they’re looking for is probably not “well everything is good if you don’t care about what’s good and just want to have fun”

[lone kernel]

y’all Returnal just released the endless mode Tower of Sisyphus and I feel cheated that isn’t in it

[lone kernel]

Eris has one of the most favorable game experience/violence inflicted ratios for newer players. Beo for if you know what you’re doing and want to get totally insane

[fickle orchid]

Hello guys ! Did somebody reach the ||epilogue|| ??

[gray apex]

Most people in this channel have

[fickle orchid]

I have a question about|| how to unlock the hearts||

I unlock all the hearts for aris and zeus

[gray apex]

The locked Hearts require you to do their favor

[fickle orchid]

🙈🙈🙈🙈

How to do it

[gray apex]

I think you can find all of them on the wiki

[whole plinth]

yeah so for example ||with orpheus you need too change his contract so he can visit eurydice||

[fickle orchid]

I slay 10k foes with aries sake

[gray apex]

Because it's a lot to type out

[whole plinth]

yeah it depends per person

it kind of depends

[gray apex]

After you get 10K kills just keep talking to him, should unlock through dialogue

[slim geyser]

(except demeter she counts at the lock)

[fickle orchid]

For ||epilogue|| i must|| unlock the hearts for olympian gods only right?||

[gray apex]

6 of them yea

[fickle orchid]

Yes yes i get it

He give me a cute sticker of him 🙈

Thanks !

I have a question about|| athena’s favor||

I didn’t understand it

[fickle orchid]

All of them except || demeter ||

Right?

[slim geyser]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Athena

[mint coral]

Demeter counts when you reach the lock

[fickle orchid]

I reach it

[slim geyser]

alright, who else have you unlocked?

[tawdry fossil]

when does that contract pop up?

maybe ive already seen it but i scrolled past

do i need to max their nectar?

[tawdry fossil]

After you successfully complete a run, Athena will congratulate you on your next run about the win if you encounter her room. You need to hear 3 of these congratulations to unlock her heart

[whole plinth]

you need to have gotten Orpheus too ||the max before the locked hearts, then talk too him until you discuss enough about eurydice until he mentions his contract, you then have to unlock the admin chambers and talk to nyx, nyx will then tell you about his contract and you can then use 3 diamonds at the renovation shades to change the conditions of his contract, which allows you too unlock the rest of his hearts||

[tawdry fossil]

do i need to max eurydice too

[whole plinth]

yes

I think

not sure its been a while since I did the questline lol

[mint coral]

Cant solve a problem between 2 if you are close to only one

You need nectar with eury too ye

Also Nyx

[whole plinth]

there ya go

[tawdry fossil]

currently finishing up the epilogue as well(trying to max out hermes keepsake for his favor), and hopefully artemis talks about callisto enough to unlock her favor

thatll finish the epilogue

[quaint rune]

I just beat meg without a single attack or special or a cast just dashing with poseidon

Just did hydra the same way

just need hermes would make this at lot easier

[fickle orchid]

Aeris and zeus

[fickle orchid]

Sounds easy

[quaint rune]

And just got the heroes with just dashes when I've never killed them before this

[mint coral]

Tidal dash moment

Hope you have breaking wave for an easy 4th biome

[versed wraith]

boat of death IS not cheron giving you a boat ride. just enemies trying to kill ya on a moving boat that going through lava

[brisk trail]

[quaint rune]

When I first started this game 4 days ago I thought I was decent because I got to the 3rd area in 2 hours 4 days later still only beat the heroes once and I died twice that time.... now I have 27 attempts and I still suck

[gray apex]

You’re still learning

You’ll get there

[versed wraith]

every attempt ya get a little better and ya want to smack hades so much too. sass dad makes me so mad

[twin thistle]

elysium is a difficulty spike

[brisk trail]

[iron oyster]

2 hours? Damn, you must have the patience of a saint

[iron oyster]

Heroes really screw most, if not all new players over

[twin thistle]

probably not 2 hours as in one run

[iron oyster]

Ah ok

2 hours in 1 run must be like playing a round of cs every room or something

And when you die you play hades

I got to elysium as soon as I got spear, which was around 1 or 2 hours of total play time

Then the heroes killed me

[candid sparrow]

Ice Wine and Ares' Aid. The last pairing I'd expect to be my first escape, but here we are.

[slim geyser]

ares aid

[rich gulch]

"I used to be more spry when I was younger."

-cue sarcastic laugh and .

[candid sparrow]

Well, do you want to see this nonsense? I was just in this to try to farm darkness, but somehow I escaped.

(I don't have photo upload permissions)

[candid sparrow]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2787186307

[candid laurel]

no devine dash

like devine dash isn't necessary but it makes my job soo much easier

[rich gulch]

Well drats

An axe head just finished my lovely run for 32 heat. 100 health loss in an instant.

[twin thistle]

heightened security not exactly the best 1 heat option

[brisk trail]

heightened security bad, don't take

defo not at 32

[high island]

Eh, it's not too bad at 32. Wouldn't be in my recommended pact, but it's not a huge problem. You just gotta accept that runs like that will happen sometimes.

I think it's more fun with HS than without anyway.

At least when you're not doing EM4.

[brisk trail]

lava scary

[high island]

Thankfully there's no lava in Hades.

[brisk trail]

EM2 lernie kinda annoying tho with HS

[raw herald]

Orange hot stuff

[rich gulch]

HS isn't really an issue for me ever, but this was the first time I lost a run because of a bad axe move. What more, this was just as I threw away a stubborn defiance as I was going to kill the last rat in the chamber so that I'd start the next with as much health as I could.

[high island]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-laughing-lmao-gif-9271317

[brisk trail]

[rich gulch]

[raw herald]

[rich gulch]

As always, it's dad's fault.

[twin thistle]

just proc the sd with the axe

unless you did that and then ran into the second axe

[rich gulch]

That's exactly what I'd done.

[brisk trail]

[high island]

HS giveth, HS taketh away.

[brisk trail]

Somebody from english speaking country wants to help me with grammar?

Pls dm me

[raw herald]

To do with hades or in general?

[brisk trail]

General

[reef zodiac]

That’s not something for this server then

This is a Hades server

[subtle blaze]

Yo guys its been a while since i played hades, anybody got like advice on whats meta in terms of aspects, weapons, builds etc.

[reef zodiac]

Well what are your goals

At low heat anything is perfectly fine

[subtle blaze]

probably grinding out heat for titans blood

and ill just equip random keepsakes to level them meanwhile

[reef zodiac]

Then you can use whatever you find fun, anything works fine at 32 or less heat

But there are stronger weapons if you’re interested

[subtle blaze]

up to 32 heat? jesus christ

i dont think i made it past 10 heat

[reef zodiac]

The easiest heat climbing weapon in the game for beginners imo is Hestia

[reef zodiac]

I mean every weapon has beaten 50 heat

[subtle blaze]

i guess it helps being good at the game

[reef zodiac]

It does, yes

[subtle blaze]

😂

[reef zodiac]

I can suggest some busted builds if that’s what you’re looking for

[subtle blaze]

yeah sure why not, ill probably need a few runs to get back in

[reef zodiac]

The most powerful aspects in the game imo are:
Rama, Beowulf, Hestia, Eris, Hera, Zeus

Zeus is pretty hard to learn and Hera falls off at high heat though

Also Achilles is quite strong

Also if you’re interested, I made a document listing a bunch of Hades bugs. Since a lot of these are things that I would have never figured out on my own, it’s nice to have them all in one place.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12CDUZVhVIqKtDbQYPS1-4nZEm4pVQm4QG8BxHkquWDQ/edit

[subtle blaze]

oh thats interesting

nice thank you

also on a bit of a side note, do you by any chance know how i can stop the game from minimising whenever I alt tab

cause i have multiple monitors so its a bit pesky at times

[reef zodiac]

I don’t know, sorry. I play on console

[subtle blaze]

in terms of launch options or something of the sort

ohhh alright

thanks anyways

[brisk trail]

this is very interesting, thank you

[reef zodiac]

👍

[subtle blaze]

what are like the easiest heats to use when grinding out titan blood?

is it just personal preference or are there some yall would recommend that dont make it too difficult

[brisk trail]

TD1 and 2 are free, EM1 and 2 are pretty good, CF is not that bad, BP1 is alright but BP2 can be annoying, MM, UC. DC is free on some aspects but awful on others. That's my thoughts anyway

[lone kernel]

Tight deadline 1,2 and em1-2 are free

[high island]

You get a lot of Titan Blood from a prophecy if you get out with each of them once, so I'd suggest just trying out all of them that way.

[lone kernel]

Eyyy. Pointing Spider-Man.jpg

[reef zodiac]

TD3 is free

[subtle blaze]

pretty sure ive done most of them

like most prophecys that give tital blood

[lone kernel]

Pancake hasn’t changed I see

[reef zodiac]

Nope

Just simply play quickly 🧠

No but actually, TD3 is free with practice while other pacts still affect your run even if you’re used to them

[brisk trail]

yup

[reef zodiac]

You can be used to FO2 and still you will get hit more than without it

But if you’re used to TD3, you’ll basically never run into issues with the timer until very high heat

[brisk trail]

also it's worth learning to go fast over say 3 points of HL or FO1

[reef zodiac]

For sure

[brisk trail]

with enough practice you'll be able to consistently beat TD3

[subtle blaze]

also uh i feel like despite having played over 100 hours of this game i still just mash dash and random combinations of attacks to get through

is that very bad?

[brisk trail]

depends where you're dashing

[subtle blaze]

permanently

i dont stop hitting space

[reef zodiac]

You should definitely put a bit more thought into the way you play I think

[subtle blaze]

except when theres 0 enemies

[reef zodiac]

Bruh what

What weapons do you play

[brisk trail]

you should always dash around for mobility and utilize dash strikes when attacking enemies

[reef zodiac]

Literally spamming the dash button at all times regardless of context is obviously a bad idea

Playing mindlessly and putting zero thought into your inputs is also obviously a bad idea

Try playing an aspect that forces you to break these habits

Such as Rama

Or Beowulf

Or Zeus

Or Hestia

[brisk trail]

I feel this lol

[reef zodiac]

If you just play fists and sword you can start just button mashing but that’s a bad way to play tbh

[subtle blaze]

alright thats a good idea tbh

[subtle blaze]

uhh

primarily the shield?

[reef zodiac]

???

You spam dash on shield??

Do you bull rush?

[brisk trail]

dash bash

[subtle blaze]

[reef zodiac]

You should absolutely not spam dash mindlessly on shield

[subtle blaze]

idk i havnt played properly in 8 months

although idk if you can consider what i did when i played consistently "playing properly"

[reef zodiac]

The whole strength of shield is bull rushing to block attacks and control your enemies’ positions

In fact, shield is the only weapon where people regularly take ruthless reflect since they feel a second dash is not needed

[subtle blaze]

although i think before i stopped i started always going with hades boons on the laser aspect

sorry i just dont remember any terms whatsoever its been too long

[reef zodiac]

Hades doesn’t have boons

[subtle blaze]

uh my bad

ares

got the names mixed up

[reef zodiac]

Oh

Don’t use ares on Lucifer

[subtle blaze]

oh fr?

[reef zodiac]

He has no good boons on that aspect

You want Zeus

[subtle blaze]

idk i just saw a sick youtube clip where someone shredded people in 5 seconds so i was like yeah im definitely good at this game i can do that 😎

and they basically spammed ares boons with the laser aspect

[brisk trail]

what about with dire misfortune

[reef zodiac]

No

[brisk trail]

alright

[reef zodiac]

I promise it doesn’t work

[brisk trail]

never tried

unless I have and I forgot

[subtle blaze]

just picked extra dashes from hermes on my shield build

[reef zodiac]

Lmao

[reef zodiac]

[subtle blaze]

you dont need a second

you need a third

[brisk trail]

5th

[subtle blaze]

how do i use my companion again

i forgot

[brisk trail]

check your key bindings

[subtle blaze]

whats the default

[brisk trail]

idk

[rustic nymph]

Hey so I’m absolutely dying on spear and bow low heat rn, anyone got build/aspect recs or tips?

[reef zodiac]

For bow:
Dash strike power shots are best. Dash right before each attack, as it makes the attack charge much faster. Practice power shot timings in the courtyard as those are best for optimal damage.

[subtle blaze]

wait thats supposed to break my habit?

i was doing a run with zeus

and just did the same thing

[reef zodiac]

Well

[subtle blaze]

ive got a lot to learn

[reef zodiac]

You still have to actually try

Obviously

[subtle blaze]

whats the best aspect for stygius

[reef zodiac]

Sword is only gonna reinforce that habit btw

For sure

[subtle blaze]

yeah and fists too

but just looking to figure out the best aspect for each generally speaking

[reef zodiac]

It’s not the optimal way to play sword, it’s actually very unsafe. But it’s easy and you’ll definitely fall into it

[reef zodiac]

Did you even use the special?

[subtle blaze]

uhh

yes at times

i just threw it out whenever i went to the next target

[reef zodiac]

Or the attack even? I don’t even understand how someone can win with zeus by playing like that

Unless you just do tidal dash only

[subtle blaze]

LOL

i honestly just spam everything there is to use

[reef zodiac]

That’s crazy

[subtle blaze]

and it works out

[reef zodiac]

Don’t do that

[subtle blaze]

although to be fair "works out" is relative

[reef zodiac]

Play Rama

[subtle blaze]

i havnt gotten any impressive heat or times yet

[reef zodiac]

And literally only dash to avoid attacks or to charge a dash strike power shot

[subtle blaze]

i think my best heat is 11 (just now with zeus) and 17 with sword

[subtle blaze]

alright ill try that rn

[reef zodiac]

And stay away from damaging dashes I guess

[subtle blaze]

fair point

[reef zodiac]

Tag enemies with special and then dash strike power shot

[subtle blaze]

alright think i got the combo down

ill do some homework first and ill let you know how it goes, but thanks a lot for the advice already :)

[rustic nymph]

Ah ty !!! Mannn I hate power shot for how long it takes to charge but didn’t know that about the dash, guess I’ll work on it hahahaha

[reef zodiac]

Every single attack should be a dash strike

There’s basically zero reason to ever use standing attack

It’s very bad

[subtle blaze]

wait just to check

the game saves automatically

after a completed run

[gray apex]

yup

the game saves in every chamber

2 times

when you enter and when you're done

[iron oyster]

No scumming out of used DDs kekw

[quaint rune]

My favorite thing about this game is when you spend a whole running hoping to get a boon/hammer don't get it then you decided to do something else next run and it's the first thing you get

[quaint rune]

Just beat the whole game with dashing mainly and a call which I hardly used

dashing is weridly overpowered

[reef zodiac]

I wouldn’t call it overpowered

[quaint rune]

I mean my first ever time getting to hades and I beat him with it

[reef zodiac]

Ok?

[raw herald]

I would call dashing very strong

[signal aspen]

Divine dash is very strong

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/908168128750567456.gif?size=48

[quaint rune]

when I said dashing I mainly meant Poseidon dashing not dashing entirely

[sweet pivot]

Am I the only one who feels that the mini boss modifier makes the evil crystal boss fight easier because it feels like there is more space

[devout terrace]

its generally very easy if you use a summon

the traps can be slightly annoying with HS on

[slim geyser]

hs

[twin thistle]

big brain is using traps to kill doomstone faster

misaligns it and eats an sd instead

[fresh steppe]

what are yalls favorite aspect for each weapon?

[reef zodiac]

Hestia, Beowulf, Rama, Achilles

[signal aspen]

Arthur, hades, chaos, chiron, Gilgamesh, lucifer

[wind violet]

nemesis, guan yu, zeus, rama, demeter, lucifer

[versed wraith]

stupid question but how do i usr itans blood anyways? i think i have 2 so far?

[gray apex]

When you unlock the base weapons using Keys you can unlock and upgrade weapon aspects (alternate versions of the weapons) using Titan Blood

[sweet pivot]

What's the name of the bow that shoots casts because it's very powerful

[reef zodiac]

Hera

[raw herald]

It is indeed very strong

[reef zodiac]

Let me guess, you watch a Croven world record run (one of the many that he holds right now) :croven:

[tawdry fossil]

I unlocked megs locked heart and got to give her ambrosia(also got her companion), but it still has 3 more hearts. Do I have to continuosly give her ambrosia for those last few hearts, or just regular nectar? I want to use my ambrosia on the companion instead but I dont know if I need it for meg

[reef zodiac]

It’s ambrosia

You only need it if you want to romance her

[sweet pivot]

It feels strong when I use it with Aphrodite s cast because it's like a bow that shoots an arrow that shoots a shotgun

[tawdry fossil]

yeah thats why im doing it

[reef zodiac]

Yep crush shot is definitely the best option for it

[reef zodiac]

Then yes, you need to give her ambrosia

[brisk trail]

is hades gonna get transistor dlc

[analog dew]

Likely not

[hearty bramble]

oh you mean like an aspect of red sort of thing? haha

idk how else transistor dlc would look??

also yeah probably not 🥺

[brisk trail]

yeh

but darn, bummer

[hearty bramble]

maybe someone could make a mod for it 😳

[sick lotus]

hades wont get dlc

[hearty bramble]

i mean... its above 0% chance...right

[brisk trail]

game is done pretty sure

supergiant moved on to next game

[hearty bramble]

I long for new official content though... sgg could just tweet "did u know thanatos's favorite color is green" and i'd go nuts

[sick lotus]

its actually canonically purple

[hearty bramble]

well dang thank u for the clarification gamer321

[hearty bramble]

ohh?? 👀 did they talk abt this? the only indication i saw was when they put up all those "now hiring for __!" posts

[brisk trail]

it's the logical assumption

[hearty bramble]

ah ok

[icy knoll]

arthur, achilles, zeus, zag/rama, none of them, none of them

on a scale of 1/10 how horrible is my taste

[hearty bramble]

not liking kitty paws??

🥺

[brisk trail]

in order arthur>zeus>rama>achilles>hestia>zag fists (only one I've used)

[iron oyster]

I did trippy shot + ice wine just for the big numbers

1.5k damage is busted

I’m playing a beo build with the same setup and because of the flare thing I get over 2k, big numbers

I guess aphro is objectively better for actual dps because the dislodge time for the maxed aspect is better

[hearty bramble]

sword: none; spear: hades; shield: zeus; bow: hera; fists: gilgamesh; gun: hestia

[brisk trail]

why no sword

[hearty bramble]

idk! None of them really stick out to me? I guess zag is fun though. I like being speedy

[brisk trail]

[iron oyster]

Who the hell plays hades spear?

Even the description is a bit underwhelming

[hearty bramble]

Is it unpopular?

I like the big spin... And the marked for death thing

[iron oyster]

Very

[hearty bramble]

Wow! I didn't know lol

[iron oyster]

My fav aspects are nemesis, Achilles, beowulf, Hera, I don’t play fists or gun

I guess I could try fists but goddamn I hate the rail

[hearty bramble]

but gun!!!

pow pow

[brisk trail]

I think hades spear is unpopular because it's slow cos you have to stand still and spin it

as opposed to achilles which also gives you a damage buff but with increased mobility

[hearty bramble]

That makes sense

I like getting big spin & quick spin with hades spear

Achilles spear i remember having fun with it but when I read the description it sounds weird. Like zip zoomin around lol

So I usually don't pick it

[brisk trail]

yeah big spin and quick spin is a super fun combo but you need to get pretty lucky for it

try it on guan yu if you can

[hearty bramble]

Oh I'm not a big fan of guan yu

[brisk trail]

big spin/quick spin on guan yu is very fun imo

[iron oyster]

Achilles special is kind of a budget bull rush

Has a far smaller width

Does less(?) damage

[hearty bramble]

Wait with guan yu aren't you supposed to mainly rely on your special?

[iron oyster]

But the buff is hella cool

[brisk trail]

special with charged skewer is the strongest option for guan yu but meme spins is fun and pretty viable (at lower heat) if you get the hammers for it

[hearty bramble]

hehe meme spins

[brisk trail]

guan yu is just pretty underwhelming overall

which is sucky but w/e

kinda annoying how some weapon aspects wayyyy outshine the other aspects of that weapon

weapon with most consistently good aspects probably shield or bow

[iron oyster]

laughs in spear

Every aspect on that weapon is ass apart from Achilles imo

Guan yu makes you get 1 shot with higher heat

Hades is hades

And zag is zag

[brisk trail]

not if you don't get hit

[iron oyster]

Smort

But I don’t think it’s exactly easy, no?

[brisk trail]

not getting hit is not easy but you'll get better at it with practice

[iron oyster]

fair

hades em4 would be hell though, i imagine

[brisk trail]

tho some aspects are much easier to not get hit with than others

[brisk trail]

with guan yu? probably yeah lol

EM4 is pretty scary first time but it's not that bad if you don't have any HL, FO or MM on

weak and chill also make it considerably easier

[silver fern]

If you have the shields pulverising blow daedalus enchantment (makes it strike twice but it doesnt have knockback), and have poseideens attack boon (that gives it knockback), whill it have knockback?

Sorry i dont really know hoe to word my question. Basically, what takes priority for knockback? The enchantment that negates it? Or the boon that gives it knockback?

[crude surge]

I don't think it does

at least thats how it is with sword spcial and the hammer that gets rid of knowback on that

[brisk trail]

I can go test it

and the answer is... no it does not knockback enemies

however, I'm pretty sure dash strike still does, cos I remember sea storm activating when i had pulverising blow and poseidon attack

[umbral parrot]

[devout terrace]

Uh huh, pulv blow doesn't apply to your dash strikes

[iron oyster]

God I forgot how unreliable the shield block is

[gray apex]

[iron oyster]

Theseus crit me with Artemis’s help through a shield with a skewer and ate up a dd im mad

What sort of bad luck is that

[brisk trail]

[brisk trail]

how does trap damage calculation work when you have HS and sure footing

[high island]

trap damage = (trap base damage * (1 + Heightened Security)) * (1 - Sure Footing)

[brisk trail]

[raw sparrow]

does the sweet nectar boon work with ||pm blossom?||

[raw herald]

No

[raw sparrow]

dang

imagine if it did

lvl 105 boons

actually wait is there a max lvl for boons?

like a hard cap?

[high island]

Nope.

[raw sparrow]

ooo

so level 105 is potentially achiveable then

[leaden birch]

level 105 high voltage

lightning bolt across the entire map

[raw sparrow]

level 105 drunken strike

just obliterate hades with Dots

[leaden birch]

True

level 105 uh

Artemis strike

level 105 Hermes strike god damn!!

attacks as fast as lightning!!

[raw sparrow]

oo wait whats uhh dionyses's boon for dmg reduction

lvl 105 that

100% damage reduction at 40% health lol

[high island]

Not really enough rooms for that lol.

[raw sparrow]

pom blossom, the mirror of night thingie that lets you change rooms and some luck with getting keys/charon shops and i think its doable

[raw herald]

Most that’s been done is in the mid 50s

[raw sparrow]

man heartbreak strike gets crazy when you put a few levels in it

mega damage

[leaden birch]

Very true

Arthur + heartbreak strike

[raw sparrow]

yea im doing exactly that too

[leaden birch]

whoops

big damage

[brisk trail]

heartbreak strike has the highest % damage up

[leaden birch]

heroic heartbreak strike

• like 3-4 levels

dear god

[raw sparrow]

also artemis crits on arthur

chefs kiss

[leaden birch]

yea

feel like

Heartbreak strike might be better though

[raw sparrow]

1025 damage no biggie

[leaden birch]

Since the damage is consistent

[raw sparrow]

still big number make brain happy

[leaden birch]

So true

[brisk trail]

don't take artemis attack, but take pressure points if you can

[leaden birch]

I remember having a chaos boon that increased backstab damage and

[brisk trail]

on arthur

[leaden birch]

Having a keepsake that did that too

I remember doing like

1500 damage

with the final swing

if not more

or beowulf with heartbreak strike (I think) and Dionysus' cast

Had a bunch of cast damage increase stuff and the level was pretty big

1500 with every fully loaded charge

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https://imgur.com/qXOHTZF

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bruh i never expect a fish to appear on the first like bobdown

so im never ready for it

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lol

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jesus

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then i get like a dead clam

which is worse then a normal clam cuz you cant eat it >: (

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I wonder what the highest damage ever is

like is there a record for that

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oh yeah i wonder if you can reach (or exceed) thanatos's 9999

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https://i.imgur.com/ZFC2hMTh.jpg not my image but someone else showed me this

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JESUS

8 THOUSAND?

two hits like that on a boss and it's done for

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hold up i didnt know two erebus gates can spawn in a region

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also what

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I could have made this bigger with boiling blood, also heart rend would have made it alot bigger but didn't have that

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i thought it was 1 per each region

does going into an erebus gate count as going into the next chamber? like would itt skip charon's shop or wouldl it just put me in there?

i mean like this

oh god im dumb

noooo

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I'm kidding

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plz no baan

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lol

oh there called infernal gates lel