#h1-discussion

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high island
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Well, his Call will unlock it, too, actually.

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Eh, doesn't really matter.

umbral parrot
high island
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Blade Dash is actually an okay alternative to Tidal Dash if you pom it a lot, I just wouldn't really go for it if Poseidon is already in the pool. Wanna keep the slot open to get Tidal Dash instead.

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It's better on something like Twin Fists where you're up close and personal anyway.

umbral parrot
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hmm

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i took the replacement

high island
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Since you have Serrated Point already, you'll want to try to get Heartbreak Strike or Deadly Strike for your Attack (from Lady Aphrodite and Lady Artemis, respectively). But Drunken Strike is also an okay alternative. Just Drunken Strike wants a lot of poms and so does Tidal Dash, hence the synergy isn't the best.

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Later on, there's a mirror talent that will give you a lot more gold laurel rewards in your runs (which includes poms), so it becomes more viable then to do both. But right now, poms are already sparse.

umbral parrot
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i think i ıunderstand

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thanks for the info and help! Heart

umbral parrot
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also i finally got tidal dash

high island
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Yay.

umbral parrot
mint coral
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Why blade dash on hunting blades?

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Ares dash isnt affected by hunting blafes

gray apex
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Hunting Blades strictly for Slicing Shot

umbral parrot
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i like using tidal dash more

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i think

gray apex
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Tidal dash has more advantages usually

umbral parrot
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with rupture too

gray apex
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As stated earlier Blade Dash is just an alternative if things dont go your way and you dont wanna reset

umbral parrot
tawdry fossil
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why do Eris rail players go for artemis flourish?

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any reason to pick it over another special?

reef zodiac
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It does more damage?

tawdry fossil
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so just for the crits?

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considering how slow it is, does it really help all that much

high island
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Your Special can beat every other source of DPS in a strong Eris build.

umbral parrot
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so i can easily beat the heroes now

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since ive beat them 3 times in a row

high island
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Nice. dusa

umbral parrot
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thats something that makes me hapi

high island
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Getting there!

umbral parrot
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yeyeyeyye

distant sequoia
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@rough chasm did you get it

pseudo kernel
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okay that was surprising

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i didnt even think i was gonna win that run

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spear used now all i have to use is that rail

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shouldnt be too hard

umbral parrot
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i got the best duo boon i love the most at the worst time for it ever

high island
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Which one is that?

umbral parrot
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poseidon and dionysus

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every boon you find is at least epic rarity

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but i found it at the worst time

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because im gonna battle dad now

high island
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Ah. There are much stronger ones, but it's handy if you get it early. Usually not something you build for specficially, since... it helps you get a stronger build, but Exclusive Access itself is not a build. Like, on its own it doesn't do anything.

umbral parrot
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i mean

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the first time i could get to the heroes

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was when i got that boon

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its just cool

high island
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It's nice to have, yeah.

umbral parrot
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yeye

pseudo kernel
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you should always have a look at your codex if you are confused about what keepsake to take or which boon to take if you are stuck. It can sometimes make a run that much more fun

old canopy
# tawdry fossil why do Eris rail players go for artemis flourish?

I wasnt a believer either until I tried it once with cluster bomb, and the hammer that lets you fire off specials like 3 times in a row. Maybe practically any flourish woukdve been good with thoae hammers, idk since the Rail is by far my worst weapon and I hate using it, but that run was glorious. I akways go for builds with Duo boons, Ihink I got Pressure Points and Clean Kill, couldve been a Heart Rend, Splitting Headache, Hunting Blades, or combo build, but my special was landing crits constantly, just decimating enemies. I would just repeatedly dash and special around the map and almost play like it's a melee arm, it worked amazingly for an aggressive meathead like me whose best weapons are the fists, then spear, then sword.

reef zodiac
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You can’t get both cluster and triple bomb at the same time. Do you mean you had them separately?

tribal sleet
mint coral
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I think it has a yellow tone when you gain gold?

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But not always

tribal sleet
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its staying yellow for me

umbral parrot
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NO

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NO

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NO

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NOOO

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NO

reef zodiac
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Yes

umbral parrot
mint coral
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Welcome back to the house of hades

umbral parrot
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I GOT HIM TO LIKE 1% HEALTH

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I LITERALLY THOUGHT I KILLED HIM FINALLY

tribal sleet
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whos redacted!!

umbral parrot
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noooooooooooooooooooo

mint coral
high island
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There's no need to be sad, you did better than before!

tribal sleet
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youll get him next time

high island
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Time to go get killed again. dusa

umbral parrot
crude surge
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What’s the worst that could happen? dusa

umbral parrot
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and it didnt even get saved because i alt f4 d

umbral parrot
crude surge
umbral parrot
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so i dont even get the darkness points

umbral parrot
high island
umbral parrot
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no need i think

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its just darkness points

tribal sleet
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zagreus has no right being that tiny

umbral parrot
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so

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this is happening again

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when my progress doesnt get saved after a run or something happens

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i get the same boons and upgrades the next run

mint coral
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Seed doesnt change if you quit

crude surge
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Same seed

mint coral
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Need to die/win for that

crude surge
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It only changes if you die

umbral parrot
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i did die

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but i alt f4'd out of rage before i respawned in the house of hades

crude surge
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You said you alt f4’d?

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So it didn’t save the death

umbral parrot
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yeah it didnt

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so its the same seed and i will get about the same upgrades

crude surge
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Not exactly

umbral parrot
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i mean it wasnt a bad run shrug

tribal sleet
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i dont think itll be the exact same

mint coral
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Yesn't

crude surge
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Unless you do the exact same thing

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Basically

mint coral
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Rng changes easily

tribal sleet
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the chambers change every time

crude surge
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Every room the seed changes

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Depending on stuff you do

umbral parrot
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i mean it happened before

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i had mostly the same ones

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idk

crude surge
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Like breaking pots, opening wells, getting voice lines, stepping in lava

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So it won’t be the same the whole time

abstract epoch
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stepping in lava during the hydra fight on EM

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the hades experience

tribal sleet
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it might be somewhat similar

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just not the exact same

umbral parrot
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i get the exact same upgrades and boons as the one before for a bit but then it changes

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its weird

high island
umbral parrot
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for example i got the same hammer upgrades at the start

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and a poseidon boon

crude surge
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Yeah it starts the same but you do stuff differently so as it goes on the seed is different

tribal sleet
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yesyes the mirror is lovely

umbral parrot
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but the boon didnt include the same blessings

crude surge
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The shades moving around in chmaber 1 also increment rng

high island
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The first boon/hammer will always be the same. After that, it will be completely different unless you replicate certain things.

crude surge
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So if you spend a different amount of time in there c2 is different

umbral parrot
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i mean i got tidal dash first this time

crude surge
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So basically unless your purposely following notes on how to run a specific seed it’s not going to be the same

umbral parrot
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so i got the feeling this will be a better run

high island
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It's possible to route an entire run, which is mostly done by some very dedicated speedrunners.

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And also a different category from unseeded (i.e., "normal") speedruns.

high island
umbral parrot
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yesyes

tribal sleet
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tidal dash is my fav

umbral parrot
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it feels so good to be annihilating bosses

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that i had a hard time at the start

tribal sleet
umbral parrot
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wow

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i got 15% critical chance at any damage (or just attacks i forgot) and a bit of attack damage from lady artemis!

mint coral
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Just attack

umbral parrot
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its pretty good though

high island
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Deadly Strike, yeah.

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Try to get Hunter's Mark from her now.

umbral parrot
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the tree lady upgraded tidal dash to the next rarity Yay

umbral parrot
tribal sleet
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eurydice the love of my life

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the voicelines when you use hades’ keepsake during his fight are so funny

crude surge
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FATHER

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SON

vague mesa
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so, thoughts on the aspect of guan yu?

crude surge
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Your basically trading half your health for built in explosive launcher

tribal sleet
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FATHER!
oh shut up

crude surge
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It’s decent

vague mesa
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i personally really like it

mint coral
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Gy can be fun but i wont use it all the time

vague mesa
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the spin attack thing is nice and can usually stay at 3/4 or more health with the lifesteal in normal non boss rooms

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with the right daedalus hammers and artemis boons it can be great

mint coral
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Charged skewer is nice

high island
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I wrote a short guide for Guan Yu if you're interested.

vague mesa
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although until you can get it to 4/5 or 5/5 upgrades the health decreash is horriblw

tribal sleet
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than and zag are having a couples fight rn

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over dusa

vague mesa
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lmao

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I love the design for artemis

tribal sleet
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ikr !! shes so pretty

vague mesa
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YES!!!!!!! and I hate that she doesn't have a steam sticker

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I do i different sorta build with guan yu

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i just mainly focus on the spin attack

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although for my next run i might try to get the artemis special as well

umbral parrot
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i got to hades again

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gonna beat him this time

vague mesa
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nice!

umbral parrot
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hopefully

tough pelican
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Is there a reason for not getting a certain god a lot or does it just happen

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Like these past few days I've done at least 10 runs and I haven't found Artemis once

mint coral
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Rng moment

vague mesa
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i think its mostly luck, but i helps if you pick 1/2/3 gods

mint coral
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Gonna asume you dont have her keepsake?

vague mesa
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you're more likely to get them

tough pelican
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I see, thanks

tough pelican
vague mesa
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although i usually go only artemis and get liek 20 million zeus boons

gray apex
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Start with her

vague mesa
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idk why bc zag isnt a hot mortal

gray apex
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Would get you more value than Tooth or Egg

mint coral
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Egg is a weird start

gray apex
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Assuming she has something good for your build

vague mesa
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u usually go the god i need the boons of for taurturs and asphodel, if im only using one god i go persephone boon for asphodel, then for elisium i go collar or tooth

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collar when im using guan yu

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tooth the rest of the time usually or if i have 1 death defience left

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idk if anyone cares

umbral parrot
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I BEAT HIM

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i feel kinda sad

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BUT I DID IT FINALLY

vague mesa
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awesome!!

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nice job

gray apex
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hopefully he doesnt get up again bouldy

signal aspen
tribal sleet
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i usually start with hermes’ plume

vague mesa
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ooh rlly

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cool

tribal sleet
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also is there a reason why hermes’ boon is the most expensive at charon’s shop at the temple of styx
hes 500 and the others are 450

signal aspen
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hermes gud

vague mesa
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hermes is kinda different from the others

gray apex
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It's a potential third hermes

vague mesa
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and hes the god of thieves so like

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stealin the 50 obols

tribal sleet
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True

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or charon is just a little.. Ykdaminionflower

vague mesa
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||ive beaten hades like 20/30 times and i always get hit by the ring in the second phase|| sopiler for final boss of hades

high island
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As in, don't press Attack or anything during your Dash.

vague mesa
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ik but i just forget it exists lmao

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bc im smart like that

gray apex
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nice

high island
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lol

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Well if you're still winning, it doesn't really matter.

vague mesa
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yeah, ig

umbral parrot
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i guess the thing i needed was athena's god gauge ability

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but i have lots of complaints

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why am i not allowed to stay there

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and why does he not remember anything

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and why ant i climb up olympus

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i want to go there

mint coral
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Dad remembers what happened but he aint gonna admit that dusa

umbral parrot
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ohh

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thats a little better

tribal sleet
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theres a reason he cant stay up yhere

umbral parrot
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i mean

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he is a god

vague mesa
umbral parrot
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what is pulling him back

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ohhh

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dont give me no spoiler

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pls

vague mesa
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he cant stay there bc he cant stay there

umbral parrot
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oki

vague mesa
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epic spoiler

gray apex
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||spoiler|| dont click this

vague mesa
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gonna try an exit wounds build

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idk

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wait no

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i mean support fire

umbral parrot
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so i defeated hades at my 50th attempt

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exactly the 50th Hehe

gray apex
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Nice

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Grats

umbral parrot
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thankuu

signal aspen
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gamer

vague mesa
high island
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I thought you gave me your heart, but now you gave it to someone else. squirtooh

vague mesa
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the only person/god i love is artemis

umbral parrot
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i upgraded achilles aspect

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with 2 titan blood

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is the only way to get them from beating hades?

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and the shop in the house of hades

gray apex
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You can get Titan Blood from beating the Fury too

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And Prophecies

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Those are gonna be your main ways

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The shop is a tedious one

vague mesa
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i think the max you can get is 4

high island
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You'll see how to get more bounties when you start your next run.

umbral parrot
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i only get darkness

gray apex
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then you have to add more heat

umbral parrot
gray apex
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assuming you beat that bounty fully

high island
umbral parrot
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oh so the punishment pact

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thing

vague mesa
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1 from furies + 1 from trade ambroia + 1 from the charon shop in styx and + one from the final bosss

umbral parrot
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is that about the flames

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and stuff

high island
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Yeah, that's Heat.

gray apex
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yea

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it's where the fun begins

high island
signal aspen
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i play at 60+ heat

gray apex
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i play at 69 heat atleast

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still casual gamer lands

gray apex
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yup

umbral parrot
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that must be really hard

vague mesa
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im bad, the max ive gotten too is 4

gray apex
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it's hard at first but then you get used to it with enough practice

vague mesa
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i think

reef zodiac
high island
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Of course, you can try to beat the #1 on the High Heat Women's Leaderboard. squirtdevious

umbral parrot
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i got epic tidal dash Yay

reef zodiac
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64 heat is max btw

umbral parrot
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so i picked the heat one

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and i forgot which

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i picked

high island
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You can check when you open the boon menu.

umbral parrot
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oh that also

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it told me at one point in the game

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but i forgot how to open it

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can u pls tell me? Plead

gray apex
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It's B on kbm

mint coral
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  • on controller
umbral parrot
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thank alot

vague mesa
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artemis: "some day you may join me and callisto for a hunt"
me who knows greek mythology: doubt

umbral parrot
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oh so

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i picked

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"each mini boss has 1 more armored foe (or whatever that will be a problem)"

high island
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Middle Management?

mint coral
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MM is fun

umbral parrot
vague mesa
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i might try that one

abstract epoch
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it's not always an additional foe btw

umbral parrot
high island
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That's more Heat than you need because it adds 2. dusa

abstract epoch
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they get new attacks

vague mesa
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i usually go with the 20% more enemies and the one where it changes the bosses

abstract epoch
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well the megagorgon and other guy do at least

gray apex
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That's a good option to get used to atleast

umbral parrot
high island
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Middle Management is fun, but you'll have to be careful when you fight minibosses. Don't underestimate them.

abstract epoch
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best option to get used to is the one you'll be doing eventually anyway

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tight deadline

reef zodiac
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Middle Management is one of my favorite pacts actually

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Good pact

high island
vague mesa
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random question: for the bone hydra should i kill one head at a time, or slowly damage each head?

umbral parrot
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i also want to try the one that gives bosses an extra technique

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like move

high island
reef zodiac
umbral parrot
umbral parrot
reef zodiac
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It does more than just give them another move

abstract epoch
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you mean EM?

reef zodiac
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Lernie has a new arena

abstract epoch
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makes the bosses more difficult

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technically

reef zodiac
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Hades has an entire additional phase

slim geyser
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theseus gets a gun lmao

mint coral
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Em3 is my fav change

vague mesa
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idk if thats true

abstract epoch
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EM3 is easier if you ask me

umbral parrot
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from what ive seen hades' second phase was just him blasting death lazers (that didnt do that much dmg) at me

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so idk

reef zodiac
pure karma
abstract epoch
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less time with theseus trying to aimbot you

mint coral
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Other guy spear throw was never a problem

reef zodiac
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Yeah and Asterius has a giant shockwave after every jump that does huge damage

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So

slim geyser
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asterius giant spins and shockwaves are annoying though

mint coral
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Em3 theseus can corner you to asterius

slim geyser
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especially with fo2 bouldy

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fo2 asterius doesn’t exist he cant hurt you

umbral parrot
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i usually kill the minatour first

abstract epoch
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i'd only say hades on EM gets a lot more difficult

reef zodiac
umbral parrot
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because its easier and he is more annoying

mint coral
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Fo2 em3 asterius residentzag

umbral parrot
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and theseus doesnt do too much

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until he gets to that weird phase

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where he starts bombing you

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honestly i just like to easy my way out with athena's god gauge thing Hehe

slim geyser
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i like em3 because it never fails to make me laugh lmao

vague mesa
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i once killed theseus first

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only bc i hate him

slim geyser
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usually i try and get asterius dead by the time theseus is in his second phase

umbral parrot
vague mesa
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i would love hades 2 pllayer

umbral parrot
vague mesa
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that'd be so fun

slim geyser
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kill both

abstract epoch
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i wouldn't kill theseus first normally, unless i was sure i'd kill him fast enough to make the aoe spam pointless

mint coral
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Having the dps to just kill both at the same time is always nice

umbral parrot
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killing both at the same time?

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isnt that too hard?

umbral parrot
abstract epoch
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i'd say second/third phase hades are easier

umbral parrot
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pls

abstract epoch
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since he doesn't getting annoying adds

slim geyser
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third hard second easy

gray apex
slim geyser
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i need to be able to see to fight bouldy

vague mesa
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my first 5 heat run!

abstract epoch
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sound cues don't help?

high island
# umbral parrot yisyisyis

When he's doing the 360 beams all around him in phase 2 part 2, you can just stand right on top of him. His beams can't hit you there.

mint coral
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Dad hugs zagluv

slim geyser
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hug your dad

umbral parrot
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thanks alottttttt

abstract epoch
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i'd say the most dangerous thing he can do second/third phase are the pots, if you're unlucky

vague mesa
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i hate the spin attacks and his cast

mint coral
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Spear throw also hurts

vague mesa
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the cast isnt horrible but a lot at the same time

mint coral
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Or dad just ignoring block cuz angles and what not dusa

abstract epoch
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spin attack you just have to time, so i-frames save you

vague mesa
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you dodge one get hit by another try to doge and hit the one you first dodged

abstract epoch
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hades needs practice, hardest boss in the game obviously

high island
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@umbral parrot I also have a collection of tips for the dad fight that I've written here and there in the server, if you're interested. https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit?usp=sharing

umbral parrot
vague mesa
umbral parrot
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i will read

vague mesa
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at least with guan yu

umbral parrot
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thankalot

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heart

vague mesa
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i did the fight without losing a death defy

umbral parrot
abstract epoch
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if you're doing a cheese build though

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hades is definitely a lot easier

vague mesa
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im just making my spin op

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with artemis

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and i had 4 dashes to that helped a lot

abstract epoch
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loads of dashes + poseidon boons is hilarious

umbral parrot
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yay i got titan blood by beating tisiphone

vague mesa
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i feel weird using a lot of the weapons because i dont know how to really ue them or their build

high island
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But if you want tips for any weapon aspects, you can always just ask.

vague mesa
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that seems like a lot of work when i can just spam spin/j
in all seriousness thenk you so much

umbral parrot
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Ye

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Thanku

vague mesa
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i might try to make my own guide on the guan yu spear once ive used it more

mint coral
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Charged skewer with purple special speed is fun

abstract epoch
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probably the biggest upside of guan yu i guess

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the special deals more damage than on the other spears

mint coral
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Built in exploding launcher is pretty nice ye

vague mesa
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the spin can be good

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if you have the winges scerpent and either bing spin or fast spin plus artemis attack you caneasily kill people and also keep yourself at good hp

mint coral
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Winged serpent is ron

tardy shard
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how did you even do that

mint coral
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Tho quick spin is fun ye

high island
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Is there something I didn't cover in my guide that you'd want to write your own?

vague mesa
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well

gray apex
vague mesa
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you made a smart

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and balanced guide

vague mesa
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while i just spam the spin

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holy hera

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i just 2 shot doomstone

high island
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I did explain spin mechanics in the guide. dusa

reef zodiac
vague mesa
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idk

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i honestly just wanna write

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even though i hate writing

high island
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Can you tell us more, in writing, about how you hate writing and why. dusa

vague mesa
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might just do it on a google doc dring school

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i think i just dislike writing when im forced to do it, even more so when i dont really care about the topic

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anyways back to talking about the game wher a kid runs from home

icy knoll
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just found out if you beat meg before the lounge opens she stands outside your room

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this game is so cool

vague mesa
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really?

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thats interesting

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is there a reason tisiphone just says "murrrddderrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr"

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is it because of who she punishies

reef zodiac
vague mesa
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fair

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i just realized i dont have demeter's keepsake

high island
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She also says murrrrderrrrerrrr.

vague mesa
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i like tisiphone

vague mesa
high island
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Yeah.

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How could you.

vague mesa
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im ashmemd

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but honestly tisiphone is one of my favorite characters

pseudo kernel
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Tis is cool

vague mesa
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mhm

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i dont like alecto

pseudo kernel
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i really like all the furies tbh

vague mesa
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tis always gives me the most trouble but she has such interesting voicelines

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alecto isnt bad

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but i dont like her

high island
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Grrrrr.

reef zodiac
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All the furies are fun but Alecto is disproportionately more difficult

pseudo kernel
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for me its (interms of difficulty) alecto, tis and meg

reef zodiac
#

Yeah I’d agree

#

But there’s a big gap between Alecto and Tis

pseudo kernel
#

yes definitely

vague mesa
#

oh really

#

alecto is annoying

#

i have the most trouble with tis

reef zodiac
#

Tis telegraphs her attacks way in advance and gives you a ton of time to get out of the way, even on FO2

pseudo kernel
#

okay for companions which bonds do i need to focus on, other than meg?

reef zodiac
#

I think you need either Skelly or Sisyphus summon if you want to unlock the ability to summon for EM4

#

You only need one of those

high island
pseudo kernel
#

right okay, thanks

vague mesa
#

are some better than others?

#

the the conpantions

flint breach
#

@vague mesa best is meg on most occasions

#

But if you're not really interested in high heat or speedrunning, then it's down to personal preference

umbral parrot
#

thanatos looks like kayn from league of legends

#

also orpheus is singing

#

and its so beautiful

vague mesa
#

nice

umbral parrot
#

so

#

i have maxed out all the upgrades on the mirror

#

i mean not all

#

but i have to get 30 keys to upgrade it it says

#

are the 2 upgrades good?

pseudo kernel
#

def want to get the next sections of the mirror

mint coral
#

God pride/legacy and fated persuasion are rlly good

gray apex
#

Dark Foresight too

mint coral
#

Dark foresight should already be unlocked no?

umbral parrot
#

yeah

#

it is

pseudo kernel
#

yes? I think

umbral parrot
gray apex
#

Oh im new started today dont mind me

pseudo kernel
umbral parrot
#

i dont understamd what dark foresight gives though

mint coral
#

New player and memeing on 45 heat? What a casual

gray apex
umbral parrot
#

and olympian favor seems veri gud

gray apex
#

Dark Foresight makes you get more Gold laurels

#

So it's much better

#

Since Gold Laurels help you win

mint coral
#

Cant use rarity if you barely see boons too

umbral parrot
#

oke so i upgrade dark foresight to max then

gray apex
#

yup

#

You almost never swap to Olympian Favor

#

Unless you're a casual gamer like me

umbral parrot
#

well

#

im going for heat now

#

so i think im slowly turning into something else than a casual player

#

also do i pick family favorie over privileged status?

gray apex
#

Usually yea

#

Unless your build revolves around 2 curses which you can almost guarantee getting

umbral parrot
#

i used priveleged

#

because i normally go for poseidon + dionysus

#

and poseidon has rupture and dionysus has the poison

#

so its automatically 2 status effects

mint coral
#

Aphro + dionysus is prime example for priv status

gray apex
#

Every god has a status

#

It's more about how reliably you can get it + apply it

umbral parrot
#

it has been pretty easy

#

but idk

#

im trying out different builds now

gray apex
#

you can make it work

umbral parrot
#

anyways i just maxed out both of them

#

i will try both

#

i reset the mirror and did only meaningful upgrades

#

now i have 1.8k darkness for the next 2 upgrades

#

or more

gray apex
#

There might be some more meaningful ones that you're missing still

#

That are not as obvious

#

Like Deep pockets

manic carbon
#

health one is op

high island
#

Hangover, Weak, and Chill builds benefit a lot from Privileged Status. The others... you'd probably want to go with Family Favorite.

umbral parrot
#

oh i dont like chill

#

that much

#

the ones i love so far

#

are dionysus

#

poseidon

#

and artemis

vague mesa
#

artemis is best

#

her boons are decent

#

but i like her

reef zodiac
#

Artemis is pretty good

vague mesa
#

her boons are amazing with rng

reef zodiac
#

Eh I wouldn’t necessarily say it like that

#

They’re good for faster attacks with decent base damage that don’t need to hit breakpoints or that you’re planning on putting chaos boons on. Such as Chiron special, Spread fire rail, flurry jab spear, etc

#

Cluster Rockets

pseudo kernel
#

artemis is good but her rng isnt good if you have slow attacks

vague mesa
#

yeah

high island
#

Lady Aphrodite is obviously the best.

#

Perfectly perfect in every way.

reef zodiac
#

Breakpoints are important

vague mesa
#

or attacks that hit multiple times

reef zodiac
#

So for slow attacks, you want Aphrodite

reef zodiac
#

Things like Rama attack, Hestia attack

#

Guan Yu special

pseudo kernel
#

and Arthur attack?

reef zodiac
#

Yeah

#

Also Artemis dash is situationally quite good. It’s like a chaos boon that costs your dash slot

high island
#

Weak is incredible, anyway.

vague mesa
#

i usually dont actually get a dash boon

#

sometimes i get athena dash in styx

reef zodiac
#

Why

pseudo kernel
#

Wow yeah thats so different to me, dashes make my build

reef zodiac
#

Dash boons are really good

#

Obviously Tidal is amazing for damage

#

Hunter is really good for some weapons

#

Divine is very safe

#

Passion is like worse tidal but it’s still good

#

Get a dash boon

pseudo kernel
reef zodiac
#

Well if you have ME then Divine Dash is literally core to your build functioning so hopefully you either already have it or planned on prioritizing it over anything else

vague mesa
reef zodiac
#

Well

#

Think to

vague mesa
#

i might get artemis

reef zodiac
#

Or just pick one up if you see it

reef zodiac
vague mesa
#

i just dont wanna start getting that gods boons when im trying to get a certian gods boons

vague mesa
reef zodiac
#

Eh I wouldn’t get Hunter dash on Guan Yu

vague mesa
#

ok

#

thanks

reef zodiac
#

Divine is best

#

For defense

#

Tidal is also great

vague mesa
#

if i get devine i dont get rid of it

reef zodiac
#

Both are extremely good and helpful

#

They will make your run a lot easier

vague mesa
#

so, is hunter good for dash attack builds?

reef zodiac
#

It’s good for Zag and Rama bow, Hestia and spread fire rail

#

And sword

vague mesa
#

what does the rama bow do

#

i dont have it

reef zodiac
#

Rama is very good

vague mesa
#

ok, ill have to unlock it

pseudo kernel
#

Wooo beat my best time

#

with Arthur LOL

flint breach
#

So uh bouldy gave me 2% ambiguity... What in the world does that mean lol

strong ridge
#

wouldn’t you like to know

flint breach
#

Yes I would actually

#

Google's definition of ambiguity doesn't strike anything haha

devout terrace
#

You believe in bouldy

signal aspen
#

Bonus ambiguity

devout terrace
#

And bouldy believes in you

flint breach
devout terrace
#

Nothing

signal aspen
#

Gives you ambiguity

devout terrace
#

Its a joke

flint breach
#

Huh

gray apex
#

Ambiguity makes it so every boss has -2%hp

flint breach
#

Oh pog

raw herald
#

While it feels that way, it doesn’t

gray apex
pseudo kernel
proud nimbus
flint breach
#

Bruh

proud nimbus
#

get kek'd

flint breach
#

Confusion level 100

reef zodiac
#

It doesn’t do anything

flint breach
#

Oh :(

#

Oh well thank you for the funny answers

umbral parrot
#

is there any actual use for the ambrosia?

#

i really want to get a titan blood for it

pseudo kernel
#

yes but its for later on

umbral parrot
#

oki

oblique isle
#

lets go

#

i did. the family reunion

#

lets gooo

flint breach
#

Gg

#

Also WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET A MERCIFUL END genuinely I've gone through 7 Ares/Athena boons and not 1 me

pseudo kernel
#

Athena on your attack and ares on your special or vice versa

#

then chance

flint breach
#

Yes I've had that since Tartarus I'm in Styx

mint coral
#

ME moment

pseudo kernel
umbral parrot
#

@high island umm

#

so i didnt know the evergreen acorn was a keepsake

#

and apparently i have it

#

im using it right now

#

thnaks for recommending Heart

#

but does it work on dad?

mint coral
#

ye

#

acorn is super safe against him

umbral parrot
#

thats veri gud

pseudo kernel
#

acorn is veryy good

flint breach
#

Ok new run 10 Athena/Ares boons no ME

mint coral
#

are you trying to do a ME build or just get the boon?

flint breach
#

Me build

#

I've got everything for it in Tartarus and just don't see it what so ever

umbral parrot
#

so i

#

maxed out demetre (season goddess) attack

#

it was epic

#

and use athena's call

#

i got to stynx temple with it now

#

i dont have a dash

#

special

#

anything really

#

its just a 3 dash strike hammer

#

and chill attack maxed out

#

its weird

#

i am certainly not doing enough damage, though

#

by maxed out

#

idk what i mean

#

its just 5+ levels

flint breach
#

There's no cap to boon levels

#

I've seen level 30 posidions dash's

high island
#

Frost Strike doesn't scale super well with poms. What you really want to do more damage if you have Frost Strike is to also get Killing Freeze from her.

umbral parrot
#

sadly i lost to hades

#

after i got him to stage 2

#

i used 2 of my death defiances before it

slim geyser
#

f

umbral parrot
#

it wasnt that good of a run but i learnt some stuff

high island
#

Yeah, like that you really want Killing Freeze for damage if you have Frost Strike and that poms on Frost Strike don't do too much. dusa

umbral parrot
#

Oh

#

i will try to get it next time

#

thank for info! Heart

#

oh

#

i completed a prophecy

#

which gave me 3 titan blood

#

apparently

#

"Wanton ransacking"

high island
#

Yay~!

umbral parrot
#

i upgraded achilles' aspect

limpid pecan
#

You should use Gods' Legacy over Gods' Pride right?

gray apex
#

Nope

limpid pecan
#

Why not? same % increase, just costs more darkness, and for legendaries instead of epics

gray apex
#

Unless your build heavily relies on a Duo or multiple always go Pride

#

Pride is 20%, Legacy is 10%, not the same % increase

limpid pecan
#

Oh, sorry, didn't know because, I haven't upgraded it yet

gray apex
#

Using Legacy for Legendary is very niche because it requires seeing the same god multiple times so it’s a lot of rng

#

Duos are much easier to shoot for through the use of keepsakes

#

Still, if you know how to work around your god pool and improve your odds for a certain duo, you could still do Pride

#

Hermes epic odds are like 3%

limpid pecan
#

Hmm I see.

gray apex
#

So Pride helps a lot with that

#

And Hermes rarity can be huge

limpid pecan
#

Also, why on one save file I constantly get this artemis boon I like, and then on my main save file I haven't gotten it once? Is there like, unlocks for boons or something?

gray apex
#

Some boons have prerequisites

#

And sometimes it’s just rng

limpid pecan
#

Damn I must be getting unlucky

gray apex
#

Whats the boon you’re looking for

limpid pecan
#

Supportive fire

#

I love getting that on like, adamant rail or fists or something but I haven't got it in like 30 runs on my main slot

#

getting it constantly on my other slot

gray apex
#

Pretty sure you need 1 core/pp for it to show up

#

And it’s still rng, no guarantees

limpid pecan
#

Core?

gray apex
#

Core as in Attack/Special/Dash/Cast/Aid

limpid pecan
#

Oh I see alright

#

Also what conditions in the pact do you recommend are the easiest so that I can get some bounties without ramping up the heat too much, any that stick out? I just recently unlocked it and they seem all pretty equal to me but I was wondering if there was some that sticked out

mint coral
#

tight deadline 1 is pretty free

#

EM1 is fine

gray apex
#

MM UC BP1 are a bit harder than those ^ but still quite easy with just a bit of knowledge and practice

limpid pecan
#

oo thank you will keep that in mind

#

What do you guys like for an Attack boon on adamant rail? My favorite combo is poseidon's knockback with rupture

mint coral
#

lightning strike + static discharge is the go to

#

or aphro attack in hestia aspect

#

can also do hangover on attack

#

luci aspect has the super soaker meme that uses poseidon attack

#

but is not good

umbral parrot
#

hehe

#

there is a relationship you have with a spesific shade in the crowd

#

in last boss of elysium

mint coral
#

Red shade best shade

umbral parrot
#

ye

#

He first was surprised about having a fan

limpid pecan
#

My favorite is the relationship between Zag and the Hydra after a few encounters

umbral parrot
#

now hes like "wasnt about to let you down, my shade!"

umbral parrot
limpid pecan
#

Lernie bouldy

mint coral
#

my fav is still Dad post lernie defeat tho
"how could you, that hydra had a family!"

limpid pecan
#

Wait did the things on tartarus always bleed black what's with this ink

umbral parrot
#

man

#

i get the best runs ever

#

and then die to the vermin and waste death defiance

#

its so not fun when that happens

#

i hate that poison

gray apex
#

It’s okay, you’ll always have amazing runs die to random bs, it happens, also you can cure the poison with the little thingy in these rooms

#

I hate when I have to explain what that thingy is because I actually have no clue bouldy

mint coral
#

curing pool dusa

umbral parrot
#

i use it as much as i can

#

problem is

#

when the room is small and i get the black rat with the shield

#

it just spits poison everywhere

#

... and thats why i need athena's call

gray apex
#

Yea sometimes you’re just better off killing the rat to finish the tunnel if your damage is good enough instead of going back and forth because it’s easy to get poisoned again right away

umbral parrot
#

by the way, does "gaining permission to enter the administrative chamber" do anything?

gray apex
#

Yea

#

Your attempt log is in there

mint coral
#

logs of previous runs/needed for certain characters quests

gray apex
#

You can see stats etc

umbral parrot
#

should i get it?

gray apex
#

Yup

mint coral
#

can also inspire some shades there

gray apex
slim geyser
#

and also story stuff

flint breach
#

100 runs surpassed :o

gray apex
#

Nice

#

Catching up to me

flint breach
#

I'm still garbage though

gray apex
#

same

high island
#

I was already amazing before 100 runs.

versed mason
#

i was goated before i even downloaded hades

polar quail
#

i was goated before I was even born

strong ridge
#

i

signal aspen
#

i am a goat

limpid pecan
#

Maaaaaa

livid otter
#

Speaking of which

signal aspen
#

hold up

livid otter
#

Ah wait damn I cant post pics here

#

I finally unlocked all achievements for Hades

#

Great game, fantastic roguelite

signal aspen
#

its an ok game

raw herald
#

if I had one dollar for every hour I’ve spent on this game

#

I could probably buy this game again

#

Twice for every dollar I spent on it

signal aspen
flint breach
raw herald
#

I’ve bought hades twice 😃

flint breach
#

Why? If you don't mind me asking

raw herald
#

Switch initially

flint breach
#

Oh ye switch exists

raw herald
#

And then on PC to play speedrun categories that are better on pc

#

Like rta and modded

signal aspen
#

pathetic modded player

flint breach
#

I want modded :(

#

400 heat modded Hades 25 phases

signal aspen
#

i dont need modded 💪 🥶

raw herald
#

Beat 4:49 unmodded then 😈

slim geyser
#

same with the twice and gamepass

signal aspen
#

ill do it with a 3 sack

slim geyser
#

got it on switch and then my switch broke but i got it on xbox now and its great

signal aspen
#

and no charged shot

raw herald
#

I’ll do it with icy flare

#

Zeus attack

signal aspen
#

icy flare pretty pog ngl

#

chill is a pogger effect

raw herald
#

W icy flare

flint breach
raw herald
#

Big radius :sheesh:

flint breach
#

I'm joking I'm garbage at this game although it would be fun to speedrun

raw herald
#

It is and it isn’t

#

Sometimes it feels like a slot machine

#

But then again the rush you get when you see the sack on PB pace is pretty nice

#

But I bet most games are like that to speedrun

signal aspen
#

getting a normal room instead of a sack room on pb pace is pretty nice too

raw herald
#

yeah

#

means you get to play the game more

signal aspen
#

wait my pb was a 3 sack

raw herald
#

lol nerd

signal aspen
raw herald
#

What was the ely exit

signal aspen
#

idk it wasnt recorded

raw herald
#

Oo

signal aspen
#

i think it was sub 5:30

raw herald
#

What about the recorded pb

signal aspen
#

5:35

raw herald
#

Wack

#

Mine was 5:46 😩✊

signal aspen
#

im surprised i got a sub 7 without sudden or charged shot

raw herald
#

Oh nice

signal aspen
#

run wasnt even that good

raw herald
#

Lmao modded has numbed you

signal aspen
#

dvorak wr dusa

raw herald
#

I got a 3:46 aspho and was like “this is mid fr”

#

Then a 2 flat elysium

high island
raw herald
#

Bezos

high island
#

I doubt he'd even give me 1.2k if I worked for him. dusa

raw herald
#

Lmao cracked Tartarus

#

Would be basically perfect if you got cshot

flint breach
raw herald
#

I know for a fact she does

#

You know how I know?

flint breach
#

No

rich gulch
raw herald
slim geyser
raw herald
slim geyser
#

should i go for pride or legacy on a beowulf speedrun

raw herald
#

Legacy

signal aspen
#

Pride

signal aspen
high island
raw herald
#

I bet your mirageless epic shot was worth it

raw herald
signal aspen
#

Epic shot basically mirage

raw herald
#

Yes but common shot with mirage

signal aspen
#

Not worth

slim geyser
#

oh no bouldy
ill go legacy for now and see how it goes

#

i always feel so slow on beo

high island
#

@manic bobcat probably has a good shot at being #2.

slim geyser
#

actually i think ill do an eris run first because im a bit rusty and im good with eris
then try beo

raw herald
#

Dyno/proxy bot is #3 probably

high island
#

I wonder if it would be over 90k messages with those. thanthink

slim geyser
#

zeus refused to give me attack twice and Poseidon refused to give me dash once and now i have no rolls thanks rngjesus

#

also do pat items count with hourglass

mint coral
#

no

manic bobcat
slim geyser
#

i would like to thank the giant skull crusher for singlehandely ruining my speedrun bouldy

high island
slim geyser
slim geyser
#

im so bad with beo oml

high island
#

There's no reason to beat yourself up.

#

Just have fun. dusa

analog dew
#

Hi, so I’m not sure if there’s a specific channel for this, but I think I’m experiencing a bug in Hades or something and idk what to do😭

#

My heart thingies for Dusa are maxed out, but I haven’t forged a bond with her

#

There hasn’t been any more interactions with her, outside of an awkward “hello!”, plz help if y’all have any ideas what I could do🙏

terse mango
twin thistle
analog dew
#

Maybe about 15 or so? Granted, it hasn’t been too long. But I guess I will just give it some more time, was just worried it could be a bug

high island
#

@analog dew when you think you need help with a bug, by the way, #h1-tech-support would be the channel for that.

#

But usually these things are like UnAnanas said, you just gotta do some more runs.

void vigil
#

yeah its not a bug, dusa bond is just like that

#

give it a few runs

#

or more than a few... i think it takes a while with that one

silver fern
#

Can you not block thesius’ spear throw with the shield?

#

I thought you could, but just now i died because his throws kept going through my shield. Was the game bugged possibly?

limpid pecan
#

Am I making a mistake trying to do dusa as the first bond

silver fern
#

She takes a lot of ambrosia to max out, but you eventually have the option for her to give it back to you
@limpid pecan

high island
reef zodiac
raw sluice
#

I keep dying to thesius

reef zodiac
#

Are you killing Asterius first?

umbral parrot
#

my solution was to get lots of dps + athena

#

the god gauge ability

raw sluice
umbral parrot
#

What ive learnt from that fight

#

is that you somehow will start beating them continously

#

one way or another

#

so just gotta play and put in more runs

raw sluice
#

Yea

reef zodiac
raw sluice
#

Is spear good

#

Or should I go something else

reef zodiac
#

Everything is fine if you’re playing casually

raw sluice
#

Ok

#

I like the spear

#

You can just spam it

reef zodiac
#

Then use spear

raw sluice
#

And hitstun does it's job

umbral parrot
#

i use spear too

raw sluice
#

On regular npcs at least

umbral parrot
#

have you unlocked aspects on it?

raw sluice
#

Idk what that is

umbral parrot
#

when you are in the house of hades

#

and

#

the big place where skelly is

raw sluice
#

Ye

umbral parrot
#

when you have a weapon picked

#

there is a symbol of your weapon