Go flurry strike then
#h1-discussion
calm zenith
Zeus attack asap
Jolted soon after
If you can get flurry strike that is. That's the best way to go Zeus on spear.
reef zodiac
Flurry Jab is good
But you can’t just “get flurry jab” in a casual run
I mean you might but you also might not
reef zodiac
Take that option above all others anyway
slim geyser
im quitting the game i just got
“You do not know if you believe in Bouldy”
abstract epoch
going after ares' legendary boon is also an option
the rift's from dashing is pretty good
all this being hypothetical since you need to get the gods you want from RNGesus
reef zodiac
What do you mean by “an option”
Like it’s literally possible to do that?
Also did you know that vicious cycle only does half of what it says it does
abstract epoch
so it's glitched or?
reef zodiac
Idk if it’s intentional or not
But it only adds one per hit not two
And on the dash it’s especially bad
Because the rift lasts for such a short amount of time
So I really would not recommend going for that
abstract epoch
good to know
reef zodiac
Here’s my full bugs doc if you’re interested
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12CDUZVhVIqKtDbQYPS1-4nZEm4pVQm4QG8BxHkquWDQ/edit
iron oyster
im quitting the game i just got
“You do not know if you believe in Bouldy”
Wait what?
Treason
slim geyser
abstract epoch
the furies aren't exactly difficult at all, but i'm curious
which do you think is worse to fight. tisiphone or alecto
slim geyser
alecto
damn spinny razor things
unless its em1 which is tisiphone because no way am i dodging spinny razors and the circles or projectiles in that small room
abstract epoch
damn spinny razor things
not quite as bad, until the 4th level
when you accidentally get clipped by one, busy dodging everything trying to hit you or poison you
slim geyser
i mean in the furies fight
reef zodiac
which do you think is worse to fight. tisiphone or alecto
Alecto
slim geyser
tisiphone is much easier imo
twin thistle
try furies in high heat
reef zodiac
Tis is easy
abstract epoch
i have, the 3 on 1 was a surprise
but you only have to beat one of them, so pointless
reef zodiac
No they mean FO2 HL5 LC4 RI2+ heat
twin thistle
high heat as in you die in 4 hits and theyre 40% faster and you have no boons
slim geyser
with HL they hit hard
twin thistle
its an easy way to figure out which fury you hate the most
reef zodiac
Still, high heat furies are pretty easy imo
Lernie on the other hand…
Lernie is so hard
reef zodiac
I lose more runs to Lernie than to Champions
abstract epoch
bone hydra with that type of damage on the multiple platforms sounds like a pain though
slim geyser
is this the part where i say get good and or skill issue
reef zodiac
I generally listen to my own music while grinding high heat runs but I turn it off from lernie onward
slim geyser
lol fair
reef zodiac
is this the part where i say get good and or skill issue
It’s the part where you go do 50 heat Lernie
abstract epoch
curious what EM ganksquad changes
abstract epoch
with forced overtime 2
i already don't like that fight
slim geyser
i cant get over the fact they gave him a machine gun
abstract epoch
so i'm good
reef zodiac
EM Theseus isn’t too bad but EM Asterius is rough for sure
abstract epoch
ironic since i find theseus to be more annoying of the 2
reef zodiac
Normally he is because Asterius is predictable
And pretty easy to dodge
Where Theseus sometimes just pulls out the big spin
But with EM3, Asterius becomes a real nightmare
abstract epoch
theseus the main thing that always throws me off is
how questionable his spear throws are
iron oyster
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/836127470725627904/952778557078274098/IMG...
oh no
reef zodiac
Eh not really
He is hard though
I’ve lost so many hitless Rama attempts to champions
Mostly because of him
abstract epoch
as for the god aoe spam, how bad it is depends on the god it seems
twin thistle
when theres em3 asterius i find em3 theseus more annoying just because he denies a lot of space
also miniguns arent good for acorn
reef zodiac
EM champions is such a well designed fight
twin thistle
yeah having to dodge both theseus, asterius, and god calls aint ideal
abstract epoch
it is funny though in the "why yes, i would like to make the fight harder for an unavoidable reason"
the unavoidable part being my stupidity
EM hades gets 3 hp bars, right?
remember the first time his second hp bar popped up
all i could think was "yup, that's about right"
i was more shocked at the hydra having different moves the first time
reef zodiac
EM hades gets 3 hp bars, right?
Yes and more hp per bar as well
twin thistle
whats ur tips for getting better at power shots with bow
its just muscle memory. and make sure youre dash powershotting. standing attacks are bad
rotund galleon
whats ur tips for getting better at power shots with bow
Practice, practice dash shots more, it's all about getting used to it
twin thistle
well bows 1-3 dont have a difference
zag bow does have you use the attack as your primary source of damage. but you can also just practice on skelly
brisk trail
i mean i use chiron bow a lot that i dont have to care about power shots
twin thistle
like shouldnt take more than 10 minutes of spamming dash strikes on him to get the timing
brisk trail
hmmm
twin thistle
even with chiron your basic attack is a nice chunk of damage, especially when you dont get perfect hammers
reef zodiac
i mean i use chiron bow a lot that i dont have to care about power shots
Power shots are still gonna do more damage and damage is good. You should probably be using power shots for Chiron most of the time
brisk trail
yea that's why i wanna practice doing it
reef zodiac
10 minutes of dash-strike power shotting Skelly with zag bow should be enough to get the muscle memory
twin thistle
well better to not use zag bow on skelly so he dies slower
reef zodiac
Yeah true
But also they don’t need to hit Skelly anyway
Just needs to be a power shot
gusty cave
what is the max level for Gods' Pride?
reef zodiac
20%
gusty cave
thanks
main crescent
i feel like such a dunce upgrading the resource manager title twice then realizing I hadn't fully upgraded fated persuasion
gray apex
main crescent
don't tell me there's one more upgrade after 4 
reef zodiac
No it maxes at 4
main crescent
oh thank gods
gray apex
No 4 is max for persuasion
main crescent
one more left then
slim geyser
i feel like such a dunce upgrading the resource manager title twice then realizi...
same though
i fixed it now
but f
also chaos fish are insane
i got a perfect catch on one and it sold for 250 darkness
clever wave
Thinking of getting my friend Hades for their birthday later this year. They don't PC game all that much, but they do have a PS4 & Switch.
So out of those two, which do people reckon Hades is better on, PS4 or Switch? And say why so I can make a better call on which platform to get it on for my friend.
mint coral
I like switch just cause you can bring it anywhere to play, and outside small cases it doesnt drop fps
high island
Thinking of getting my friend Hades for their birthday later this year. They don...
Talk to your friend to get a sense of what they'd rather play on.
Like some people have multiple gaming platforms but 1-2 of them are just collecting dust. So if your friend hasn't touched their Switch in over a year for example but still plays on their PS4, then PS4 is probably the better choice because that's what they like to play on.
Or maybe they'll say something like they like Switch games but don't like the controller for action games or something like that. Or similar things for their PS4.
clever wave
They play on both equally as much, but the point about what they'd prefer to play action games on is a good point to consider.
But what are the advantages and disadvantages to both version then? Just so I know where one may be better than the other in some regards.
Frame rate, resolution, other performance aspects, that sort of stuff.
clever wave
I like switch just cause you can bring it anywhere to play, and outside small ca...
Fair point, but you did mention 'outside small cases', so it still does drop fps on occasion. I guess that's something to consider.
gray apex
pc
brisk trail
Arthur is fun
strong ridge
Fair point, but you did mention 'outside small cases', so it still does drop fps...
speeder cloner rooms go brrrrr
reef zodiac
Eww speeder
strong ridge
what r u mcfly, ckn?
reef zodiac
signal aspen
Ye m mcfly ckn
arctic flax
how do i get the bouldy companion?
clever wave
speeder cloner rooms go brrrrr
Speeder cloner rooms? Pleas elaborate because I'm not sure what that means.
arctic flax
why is there no red shade emote?
reef zodiac
Red shade?
high island
They play on both equally as much, but the point about what they'd prefer to pla...
Does Hades support cross-saves between PC and Nintendo Switch?
Yes! Our Cross-Saves feature lets you transfer your Hades PC save data to and from the Nintendo Switch version. It's easy to use, and you can learn more about it from the Switch version's Cross-Saves submenu. Note: The Xbox and PlayStation versions of Hades do not support PC cross-saves like the Nintendo Switch version.Does the Xbox Game Pass version of Hades support cross-saves with any other version?
If you have Hades on Game Pass, your save data should transfer to other versions of Hades on Game Pass. For example, if you play Hades on Game Pass for Windows, and also on Game Pass on Xbox Series X, your save data should transfer between versions automatically. However, your save data will not transfer to any other versions, including Steam.
Those are basically the only differences in features between different versions, and of course that the Switch can be mobile. As for performance between Switch and PS4, I've heard that the Switch version drops frames at very very high heats (like north of 40) in some encounters when there's a whole lot going on at once. I haven't heard that for the PS4 version, but that doesn't mean it's not the case there, too. I'd expect the PS4 to outperform the Switch just based on hardware, but I don't know if that's truly the case here.
Hope that helps.
clever wave
> **Does Hades support cross-saves between PC and Nintendo Switch?**
> Yes! Our ...
I mean I asked about the PS4, not any of the Xbox versions, but the rest of this and your other post after were helpful for sure. It may just be a matter of seeing how often my friend plays on the Switch when out and about more than anything in this case, as well as if they prefer to play action games more on PS4 or Switch as well like it was mentioned before.
vapid narwhal
PS4/5 has no crosssave function, official or unofficial to other platforms
Steam, Xbox/PC Windows Store and Switch have either official or workarounds.
molten thunder
do I just, only special/cast for the next 4 encounters lol
xD
omg bone hydra
shiiiiii
wild flare
8th run in a row I get to hades then die fml
I just wanna beat hades again without ares boons and gauntlets
hot reef
I just wanna beat hades again without ares boons and gauntlets
use the shield child it is your destiny
wild flare
use the shield child it is your destiny
I was tempted but I just unlock chirons bow and kinda wanted to try a dionysus thingy but it ended up being ares again with dionysus cast ;-;
wild flare
I'm jealous I've only beat hades once and from what i can tell there's more story I can't wait to experience
wild flare
Oh fml
leaden birch
slightly worried that I might start playing this game less now that I've completed the main storyline but
maybe not since I'm a bit addicted
a bunch of achievements and what not left too anyway
wild flare
Can always try some off the walls builds for giggles
leaden birch
speaking of
builds and "building"
right
I still have lots of stuff to buy from the uhhh
contractor person
nice
wild flare
That'd keep you busy
modern hull
Did anyone else thought that weapon aspects are upgrades and that you could apply all to a weapon first 
leaden birch
Did anyone else thought that weapon aspects are upgrades and that you could appl...
yeah
up until a few days ago when someone told me what aspects did when I asked about the "Alt-skins" or something
long aspen
does anyone have any strats for beating the final boss?
signal aspen
Hit the boss, don't get hit by the boss
leaden birch
contractor person
oh and maxing out all of those bonds too
damn nevermind still got plenty to do in this game
leaden birch
does anyone have any strats for beating the final boss?
well
what worked for me is uh
picking up a boon that makes you impervious for some time
I activated that boon whenever he was about to do his swing attack thingy to negate it's damage and maybe get some hits in too
other than that
I don't know maybe keep your distance
my advice prob isn't worth much since I just beat the storyline
long aspen
ok thank you :]]
modern hull
does anyone have any strats for beating the final boss?
Always kill the orange/green things he shoots at you before they explode. If he pulls out the laser just hide behind one of the tree trunks. The second stage is much easier than the 1st bc there are no wretches
Always keep your distance bc sometimes he goes crazy
leaden birch
Always kill the orange/green things he shoots at you before they explode. If he ...
Yeah I agree
I prefer 2nd
oh yeah you should
Get some bonus dashes from hermes I think
Or the boon from em that makes you sturdy and increases your speed right after you dadh
Dash*
long aspen
yea tru those dashes are uselfull but thank you you two again
leaden birch
np
strong ridge
step 1 be good step 2 don’t be not good step 3
flint breach
does anyone have any strats for beating the final boss?
When you are at the second part of the second stage, he will use his fire beams but there's a safe spot if you stand directly next to him basically inside of him, you can use that to pick off massive damage without getting hit
His first stage is always the hardest as you've got the more difficult things to dodge such as his sweeps, his second stage he does a lot more long animations so it's pretty easy from there
wild flare
This game is gonna give me gray hairs
pseudo kernel
but i must say he gets much easier after you have fought him a few times
and styx is much easier now that i know what to do and what everything means lol
flint breach
Once you've got a good build you can kinds just brute force him
pseudo kernel
sorta
wild flare
Have 0 clue where to even start for a build
pseudo kernel
dont do that tho even with a good build bc youre gonna be confused when you can do that
remember take your time all the bosses are the same you just need to know their learn them
flint breach
Have 0 clue where to even start for a build
My favourite is malphon with merciful end
pseudo kernel
Have 0 clue where to even start for a build
Looking at your codex on the gods can really help
but playing the game just playing really gets you understanding boons and what they are good for
wild flare
I used gauntlets first win against hades trying out chirons bow and I do look but I never get anything useful
flint breach
Builds can be very specific sometimes
pseudo kernel
All the boons are useful i promise you just need to learn in what way and how
but also the mirror is very important
flint breach
I used gauntlets first win against hades trying out chirons bow and I do look bu...
Ye the gauntlets are my favourite aswell
mint coral
All the boons are useful i promise you just need to learn in what way and how
Peer pressure is never useful
wild flare
Only problem is I've never been good with numbers so it's been see big number add cause idk
strong ridge
base + % unless its + flat
pseudo kernel
Peer pressure is never useful <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Sorry that wasnt meant to come off rude i didnt even sorry if it did
mint coral
Peer pressure is a boon
flint breach
Lol
mint coral
flint breach
Only problem is I've never been good with numbers so it's been see big number ad...
Big numbers are pretty difficult to achieve, you sorts know if something's doing well if you just flat out destroy everything in seconds
pseudo kernel
Ares is always good for giant damage
strong ridge
pseudo kernel
and with athena you can possibly get merciful end and it is a great dunno to learn from
flint breach
Merciful ends is probably the best duo
mint coral
I argue smoldering air is better
strong ridge
average smair blasphemy
wild flare
Big numbers are pretty difficult to achieve, you sorts know if something's doing...
Not even really looking for big numbers I'm just a smooth brained individual who throws whatever ok cause idk what goes with what beside ares stuff
flint breach
Get the fists, doom damage on attack, special with Athena, merciful end and then get dash deflect with Athena, shred everything
strong ridge
im an advocate of bad news since it is bugged and is global
pseudo kernel
also is i change my death defiance to stubborn defiance and get Stubborn Roots will i still heal with my defiance or nah
bc i learnt that the game counts skelly tooth as a death defiance not too long ago tryna do this
strong ridge
yes just less but more than base
modern hull
What aspect does sea storm work best with? I got it for talos but it didnt really do much damage
abstract epoch
got the fists and spammed special after i managed to get a heroic boon from aphrodite, managed to even get it up to level 10
so bosses were cake
pseudo kernel
damn
abstract epoch
ty
leaden birch
I like how fighting hades again feels like now
wild flare
I think one of my problems is so focused on being too aggressive like I have a time limit
leaden birch
It's no longer a fight to the death but moreso just
a spar
...though a spar to the death too I guess
leaden birch
TRUE
wild flare
Look at all the young people 👴
pseudo kernel
Ahah
raw herald
What aspect does sea storm work best with? I got it for talos but it didnt real...
Probably Chiron, chaos or lucifer
modern hull
Probably Chiron, chaos or lucifer
So zeus on special and poseiodn on attack?
raw herald
So zeus on special and poseiodn on attack?
For lucifer, yeah, for the others it’s the opposite
Poseidon on special and Zeus on cast/call is best
pseudo kernel
what boon are we taling about
raw herald
Sea storm
wild flare
I have sea storm on chiron rn and not bad ngl
pseudo kernel
couldnt that work on hera too i dunno if aphro cast counts as knock back tho?
pseudo kernel
right
right
but surely you should have poseidon on your dash it will then surely destory
destroy*
raw herald
Poseidon on dash knocks enemies away from triple shot
abstract epoch
only poseidon boons i've really gone for are
cast knocks foes away and does more damage to bosses
or the treasure trove one or whatever it's called
pseudo kernel
yeah thats the whole reason i pick up his dash
wild flare
OK what should I get I have the ability to get static discharge but also have splitting bolt
abstract epoch
dash wise, if i ever get athena in a run, dash deflect is a no brainer
pseudo kernel
if i dont already have athena’s dath there
pseudo kernel
dash wise, if i ever get athena in a run, dash deflect is a no brainer
exactly
abstract epoch
the other dash boons are fine, but i'd prioritise athena's
signal aspen
tidal dash is a little more than fine
leaden birch
Tidal dash is nice
abstract epoch
well aside from athena's
pseudo kernel
its fine in comparison
abstract epoch
i usually get zeus' dash boon if i get him and it's offered
especially useful if you get the legendary
signal aspen
zeus' dash is only good if you get every zeus boon with it
pseudo kernel
and if you have hera always go for dion or aphro on cast
signal aspen
abstract epoch
ironically the only weapon i haven't finished a run with still is the sword
gray apex
It's ok most people cant play sword properly
leaden birch
Actually since I only got hades like a week ago I wanna ask about something uhhhh
Are there any
New updates planned
Like major updates in the near future
signal aspen
no
lone kernel
OK what should I get I have the ability to get static discharge but also have sp...
splitting bolt prerequisites are: storm lightning, high voltage, double strike (dstrike is pog, the others are mids), jolted is amazing and should be prioritized, like id go jolted over anything for my second zeus unless its special zeus and a purple double strike. jolted is more likely to appear cause its a status curse i think thats a thing
leaden birch
customizing the garden would've been nice
lone kernel
i dont know if that entirely clarified what you were asking, please feel free to follow up question if needed
abstract epoch
splitting bolt prerequisites are: storm lightning, high voltage, double strike (...
and even then
this is assuming zeus even offers you it
or you get him again
lone kernel
yeah i mean this is estimated but i get jolted by end of tartarus on a zeus start like 3 in 4 times
the 1 i am probably screwed
abstract epoch
since i'm curious
is there anything special for clearing all the rooms in styx, or not
lone kernel
this is regular discussion not high heat lol
don't confuse the newer players vowel cat guy
lone kernel
is there anything special for clearing all the rooms in styx, or not
so like if i had the satyr sack but was missing a critical piece of my build, it would be worth doing another tunnel maybe
grab a third boon or something
twin thistle
though kinda hard to be missing a critical part of your build in styx unless something went mega wrong
lone kernel
you also get around 150-200 rupees per tunnel i think? maybe not quite taht many but
a lot
lone kernel
though kinda hard to be missing a critical part of your build in styx unless som...
sad ap1 noises
abstract epoch
though kinda hard to be missing a critical part of your build in styx unless som...
not getting the hammer upgrades you wanted
lone kernel
or idk if you have zeus legendary prerequisites
abstract epoch
about it
twin thistle
you get 2 hammers before styx
lone kernel
if you think youre gonna do better wth splitting
yeet it
do the tunnel buy your zeus and go
twin thistle
youre only getting more if you anvil
lone kernel
fight hades
but that is an exception, not the rule
there are very few rule rules in hades
abstract epoch
well i want hades on auto-pilot
lone kernel
just more optimal ways to do stuff
abstract epoch
i use the bow and hope to get rapid fire and maybe triple shot
lone kernel
grab the eris rail, start zeus attack, force poseidon dash, get jolted, win game
twin thistle
twin/triple > flurry
twin thistle
flurry more of second hammer
lone kernel
thats easy mode
lone kernel
flurry more of second hammer
i kinda love flurry on Hera
just as something different
abstract epoch
although last time i cleared with the bow i got
twin thistle
yeah good 1st on hera
abstract epoch
explody upgrade
lone kernel
like if i get flurry then it opens up zeus attack which is insane
but
that aint reliable lol
signal aspen
yeah good 1st on hera
kbm 😔
abstract epoch
as for the spear i got spread shot and longer reach i think
signal aspen
fr*ck you
lone kernel
pseudo kernel
well that was an easy styx
abstract epoch
tend to get lucky in styx and the second tunnel will always have the sack at the end
pseudo kernel
same
twin thistle
2 sack is about a 53% chance
pseudo kernel
2nd or 3rd
lone kernel
tend to get lucky in styx and the second tunnel will always have the sack at the...
so the vast majority of the time, once yu get the sack it's optimal to just go fight hades since why risk extra damage, plus tight deadline may be a factor if youre pushing heat like u said
abstract epoch
i mean yeah
lone kernel
i think its a coin flip per tunnel after 2nd one but i dont really know
abstract epoch
risk extra damage vs some annoying enemies
lone kernel
yeah just gotta weigh that in your head, you got the right idea
lone kernel
pause the game, locate the fountain, resume
leaden birch
yea but still
lone kernel
eventually youll memorize where they are
abstract epoch
as for accessories
i still mainly use the acorn, cause no brainer
for hades anyway
i'll use hypnos' accessory for the extra money though
strong ridge
in hypnos we trust
wild flare
Always the wide swing that's that's that hits and kills me I'm gonna tear my hair out 12 runs now in a row
Never using twin shot on bow ever again
modern hull
No its really good
wild flare
No its really good <:dusa:522248771409543188>
How it was working for me it screwed me over more than anything caus of the range
Also I beat hades finally
signal aspen
It's literally double damage for your attack
strong ridge
How it was working for me it screwed me over more than anything caus of the rang...
dashing powerstrike
bow become sord ; )
wild flare
It's literally double damage for your attack
Ik but when it's a build around the special I'm more worried on range than damage for my normal attack
wild flare
dashing powerstrike
I'll have to try it out after this gauntlet run cause I can stay away from gauntlets
strong ridge
gauntets r a good time
wild flare
They are but they feel like my crutch which irks me and makes me wanna play a different weapon
twin thistle
fists not really any more crutchy than chiron
strong ridge
i mean fists r pretty much bad but i do like them
twin thistle
yeah maybe not much of a crutch to begin with
oblique isle
wild flare
yeah maybe not much of a crutch to begin with
Wasn't saying it was a crutch I was saying it felt like a crutch for me cause everytime I use gauntlets I wanna use ares cause damage
shadow orchid
Can anyone help me with a prophecy?
stiff violet
if you have crit chance and an attack of yours hits multiple enemies is the crit roll per enemy or per attack?
stiff violet
i see
iron oyster
if you have crit chance and an attack of yours hits multiple enemies is the crit...
per enemy, i landed a trippy flare crit with pressure points on 2 different enemies
couldn't take a screenshot, i was too slow
sorry, trippy shot*
flare is for ||beo||
abstract epoch
alright 7 runs down, and 3 more i think and i'm done(the story anyway)
still need to unlock the last weapon, which is the gun i assume
pseudo kernel
so you have been playing the game without weapon aspects?
narrow condor
Anyone have any tips for a beginner?
Cause I recently started playing and I've escaped Tartarus twice but I still don't entirely understand the game.
pseudo kernel
what parts dont you understand and you can always ask in #h1-for-new-players shall we move there
narrow condor
Ok
abstract epoch
was wondering why i couldn't use titan blood on the weapons as well
need to unlock the rail gun
lone kernel
Yeah aspects unlock once all weapons are unlocked
abstract epoch
need to buy the rail gun that is
pseudo kernel
yes
abstract epoch
i never bother going for keys once i unlocked all the mirror abilities
pseudo kernel
check with the broker he’ll sell yeah anything
abstract epoch
check with the broker he’ll sell yeah anything
best to wait for special offers
since they are usually better than the normal offers
wind violet
i mean sure
pseudo kernel
well if you need keys its better to get them now than wait
wind violet
but also just get them from the normal trade
and get them in runs too, they're pretty common
pseudo kernel
bc you may have to wait ages to get a trade you want
abstract epoch
i can just get the keys in a run, no biggie
still need to clear a run with the sword
if i can stop sucking ass with it
high island
Base sword is bad.
abstract epoch
wouldn't say it's bad per se
wind violet
also, this is the later game channel, so there might be soilers here
pseudo kernel
its not good
abstract epoch
but i's clearly the worst weapon available
wind violet
but it works for now
strong ridge
only way 2 make base sword good is rd
wind violet
we can move to #h1-for-new-players
pseudo kernel
sure
abstract epoch
is op as hell
high island
wouldn't say it's bad per se
Garbage might be a better word.
reef zodiac
wouldn't say it's bad per se
Uh no it’s definitely bad
Also disproportionately hard to play compared to other weapons
Like Nemesis can put up results for speed and heat (not top results but decent ones) but it’s very underrepresented on account of how difficult it is to play
wind goblet
how to defeat hades exactly?
i have tried to kill him about 10 times now
almost killing him once
gray apex
Work on your timing and learn his moves
Dashes grant you iframes
As long as they're empty dashes
Having a good build will help a lot too whether defensively or just to do more damage so you dont have to fight him for as long
reef zodiac
Empty dashes are very useful for Hades, yeah
That’s always my #1 piece of advice
All of his attacks (except beams) can be avoided with a well timed empty dash
Or just dash twice and you have a much bigger window to avoid it
reef zodiac
What happens if you kill Zag and Hades with the same Hazard Bomb
gray apex
oddly specific
reef zodiac
Easiest way to imagine they could both die on the same frame
strong ridge
u mean like kill kill or healthbar
reef zodiac
?
abstract epoch
beat hades with the sword finally
got so many boons that run
divine protection, merciful end, unshakable mettle, etc.
signal aspen
Interesting choice
What
reef zodiac
It’s not bad
But it’s just very demanding
And also it would probably be easier to just do a crit build on Nem
Like heart rend
devout terrace
What
fickle dew
how to defeat hades exactly?
crystal beam pew pew pew
devout terrace
See the problem with sword is that REDACTED everything is bad
reef zodiac
Cause it doesn’t rely on DEdge?
fickle dew
I don't really mind about long clears 😆
signal aspen
Meme beams gud
You just need extra casts from chaos, glacial glare, crystal clarity, and mirage shot
reef zodiac
I don't really mind about long clears 😆
fair I guess. If I spend more than 2 minutes in a low heat champions fight I start to really question all of my life choices
This is why I play Beo
edgy bison
reef zodiac
Elaborate
pseudo kernel
please
signal aspen
How does that happen
raw herald
Me on sub 4 pace entering p2.2 of dad and I realise I’m using gilga 😦
reef zodiac
LMAO
reef zodiac
Ofc the final one
strong ridge
a curious case indeed
devout terrace
Me on sub 4 pace entering p2.2 of dad and I realise I’m using gilga 😦
Sadge
modern hull
For parting shot to work well do i need to have blinding flash? Or is shadow presence enough?
raw herald
Shadow presence makes parting shot good instead of unnoticeable
Any more backstab damage is gonna be great
reef zodiac
Parting shot is mediocre at best tbh
modern hull
Parting shot is mediocre at best tbh
I know but i want to get every duo boon and build something around it
strong ridge
wherever you could build for parting there is a better way
dull niche
probably the coolest parting shot build is phalanx shot on hera with parting + blinding flash
you can get some dummy high damage with it
crude surge
abstract epoch
finished the story
took an extra attempt because the rail gun was bleh
the ||charon|| fight was actually better than i expected
latent gust
I hate this game so much... I'm partly joking because its my favorite game of all time but also not because I have not gotten anything done recently
i've been so distracted...
dreamy slate
i was wondering, is the hades the 3 bosses combined?
signal aspen
What
dreamy slate
cuz he summons like lernie, does the big swing attack like asterius and shoots with the skull like meg shoots with the red dots
or maybe im just dumb
bad examples
but im pretty sure hades attacks are just the attacks of the previous bosses
raw herald
I’ve always thought of his moves being similar to zagreus’
He’s got casts and boiling blood
Spear spin attack and special throw
Thrusts
Summons Cerberus, similar to companions
Death defiances
dreamy slate
like father like son i suppose
dreamy slate
Summons Cerberus, similar to companions
when i saw his cerberus summon i felt betrayed
i pet him after every run and he does this to me
raw herald
He doesn’t want you to leave the underworld 😦
abstract epoch
The green pots aren’t really similar to anything zag does though
closest i can think of is the wave after zag's special with the sword, but that is a stretch
but the pots themselves, nope
iron oyster
do gods dont....????
they probably don't need to
iron oyster
cuz he summons like lernie, does the big swing attack like asterius and shoots w...
meg summmons to???
its just more unnoticeable
iron oyster
but the pots themselves, nope
traps? most players abuse traps to throw enemies into them
but the pots don't even 1 or 2 shot
signal aspen
traps? most players abuse traps to throw enemies into them
Wdym most players
I've like never done that
iron oyster
I've like never done that
really? you
you've never tried to throw enemies into traps?
signal aspen
Nah
signal aspen
Well I'm never at low hp
iron oyster
Well I'm never at low hp <:dusa:522248771409543188>
ouc
strong ridge
free alecto damage if u do nascar in her arena
brisk trail
does every shot for chain shot have a chance to be a crit or is it just the first shot that makes contact?
iron oyster
does every shot for chain shot have a chance to be a crit or is it just the firs...
i think its per enemy
final trellis
what rewards do you get for turning up the heat?
twin thistle
same ones you got from defeating each boss the first times. you get more
novel torrent
Ok not sure if I'm missing something obvious but with the Aspect of Hera bow, right clicking should load my Cast into the bow right? Or is there something else to load the bow with the cast?
dull niche
whatever your cast is bound to will load the arrow with your cast
leaden birch
Bought extremer measures
I'll play around with extreme measures first later since I'm still mainly using heat to farm and I'm still on like heat 1-2 for most weapons
compact dawn
I just beat Hades a second time! This time with Fists of Malphon, took me 29 minutes 27 seconds
wind goblet
Having a good build will help a lot too whether defensively or just to do more d...
thanks for the advice
i went to bed just after writing that so i apologize for late responce
iron oyster
I wonder if someone actually spent time making a hades cheat client
Could be cool to see the human limit
gray apex
That's not how that works
compact dawn
I'm curious. How many of you have unlocked all the achievements for Hades? I'm a bit over halfway there
strong ridge
i havent because then the gaming will be done
however it is pretty achieveable to 100% hades
flint breach
64 heat no hit when?
reef zodiac
Bruh
devout terrace
Soon ™️
reef zodiac
- 64 (or even 63) heat unseeded has never been done
- 64 heat already needs to be nearly hitless anyway because HL5 RI4 LC4
signal aspen
You just need a ton of damage reduction to beat 64 heat
ripe fossil
I'm curious. How many of you have unlocked all the achievements for Hades? I'm a...
soon™️
i'm actually like
44/49 on steam
just a good handful left and it'll be my first game i perfected
leaden birch
I started playing last Sunday so I'm not that much in
I beat the main storyline already though
Prob like 50-ish % on the achievements
flint breach
Ye it was supposed to be a joke although I wonder if it ever will be done
Considering the game has already been beaten hitless it could theoretically be possible
reef zodiac
Ye it was supposed to be a joke although I wonder if it ever will be done
It will not.
flint breach
Have to wait and see the human skill ceiling is weird
flint breach
If it happens I will eat a book
reef zodiac
Do you understand what 64 heat entails
flint breach
Yes I've tried doing it and couldn't even make it half way through Tartarus
reef zodiac
If it happens unseeded unmodded I will literally eat a hardcover copy of the Tolkien’s The Hobbit front to back
It will not happen
flint breach
Theoretically it's possible, will it ever happen though? No!
reef zodiac
64 heat unseeded will probably never happen to be honest
I’d be willing to bet on it
devout terrace
Baj got to styx unmodded
gray apex
Or Angel
reef zodiac
Yeah I heard about that
devout terrace
I got to mid ely but never bothered to share my progress its too stressful lol
flint breach
It just requires someone to be dumb enough to grind it
gray apex
It’s quite the experience with DC2 Zag shield
mint coral
I'm curious. How many of you have unlocked all the achievements for Hades? I'm a...
Switch gaming so no achievements
devout terrace
I basically got clapped by seeker ely witches lmfao
The pace was actually really good
gray apex
devout terrace
Like 8;30 into 31
gray apex
Damn
devout terrace
Skill issue : (
mint coral
Angel "casual 61" gamer
flint breach
Joking obviously don't take me seriously ever
devout terrace
Angel "casual 61" gamer
61 
signal aspen
64 heat unseeded will probably never happen to be honest
I can do it
Just gotta grind
signal aspen
Mirrorless limit is 64
flint breach
fr
Really dumb question, what did you not have on pact when you did 62 heat, presume it's mirror
devout terrace
How hard could that be
devout terrace
Really dumb question, what did you not have on pact when you did 62 heat, presum...
RI3 instead of ri4
flint breach
Ye thought as much
reef zodiac
Nothing will have RI4 until it’s literally required
devout terrace
HL4
reef zodiac
Unless they want to intentionally make it harder on themself
flint breach
Ye ri4 sounds like hell
reef zodiac
Understatement
devout terrace
On zag shield it hurts way more too
reef zodiac
devout terrace
No backstabs
devout terrace
I think if I can just win with cp2 lc2 dc1
Zeus equivalent would be dc2 cp1 basically
signal aspen
What about beo
devout terrace
The problem with zeus is that the timer is just sooo unbelievably meh
reef zodiac
Beo can’t do RI3
devout terrace
You need to take earring for aspho-ely, maybe even styx
signal aspen
Reset for casts :croven:
devout terrace
Cant do that on mirrorless
You're gonna die from no tooth-acorn
There was this one run I really wanted to try though
Mirrorless boonless 50
reef zodiac
Eww boonless
signal aspen
Sounds fun
fast willow
Mirrorless boonless 50
hesty?
signal aspen
Angel using anything other than zag shield
abstract epoch
was gonna try EM hades right away
but i assume the game won't let you until you reach that heat level
mint coral
You can
abstract epoch
probably a but in there
abstract epoch
but you won't get the rewards? i'm guessing
mint coral
You get the rewarda for whatever is your current highest needed
So if you do em4 (10 heat) but are lower than that it will give bounties for example: 5 heat
Then can repeat for 6 heat bounties and so on till 10
mint coral
Have fun
abstract epoch
other EM versions weren't really a step up in difficulty at all really
using the bow, so i'll beat hades in my sleep
brisk trail
||Who can you all reunite together? I already knew of Eurydice and Orpheus and Achilles and Patroclus. Is there anyone else you can reunite? ||
fickle dew
Wouldn't it better for you to discover it yourself
reef zodiac
Each of the three story room characters has a questline which can be progressed by giving them nectar and ambrosia.
Sisyphus can be pardoned
Eurydice can be reunited with Orpheus
Patroclus can be reunited with Achilles
Then some other characters have quests to max out their bond.
Nyx can be reunited with Chaos
Skelly can be killed with a lvl5 Zag sword
Then Meg, Than, and Dusa can be romanced, but Dusa rejects you at the end of the questline
I think that’s all of the “questlines” in the game. Beside the ones for Olympian gods but those don’t matter
wind goblet
Each of the three story room characters has a questline which can be progressed ...
what about the old guy in elysium?
i forgot his name
mint coral
Thats patroclus
wind goblet
oh
novel torrent
whatever your cast is bound to will load the arrow with your cast
Bruh I think my game is bugged, I have aspect of Hera lvl 2 but I'm still throwing my cast like normal
dull niche
uh do you have it equipped?
reef zodiac
dreamy slate
is ot only me or the cosmic egg sound in the keepsakes shelf has a weird cutout
abstract epoch
EM hades was definitely harder
arctic flax
sisyphus quest, how do i do it
abstract epoch
good thing twin shot and flurry shot combo made it trivial
third phase has less hp i think, hard to tell since i was wrecking him
signal aspen
Git gud
reef zodiac
its so bad
???
Second place is a bow as well
First place on modded is also Hera
signal aspen
reef zodiac
Clearly it is not “so bad”
devout terrace
every person that mains the bow doesnt deserve happines
kbm_irl
dreamy slate
for speedrunners
signal aspen
LMAO
reef zodiac
for speedrunners
Speak to this
If a weapon is capable of having the fastest time in the world
devout terrace
Me with 60 Rama
dreamy slate
it is not enjoyable for casual playing
reef zodiac
And also capable of having an incredibly high heat level
reef zodiac
it is not enjoyable for casual playing
You do not enjoy it
devout terrace
Bow is like the second or 3rd best weapon
dreamy slate
just dont understand how the bow is more smooth and enjoyable than the spear with flurry jab
reef zodiac
Well it’s both “faster” (not necessarily objectively faster but does have a better time posted right now) and better for high heat so…
I personally enjoy winning
You personally do not enjoy bow, likely because you don’t understand how to play it
I also hated bow before I knew how to play it
And honestly I still don’t like Zag bow. I find it to be incredibly boring and repetitive
pseudo kernel
I mean just bc you dont like it doesnt make it bad, it might be bad for you as unholypancake has said and made a point in saying its really good… I really like the bow its just fun
reef zodiac
But Rama and Hera are very fun and Chiron was really fun when I was starting out
fast willow
it is not enjoyable for casual playing
and it's fine if you don't enjoy it
but that doesn't make it a "bad" weapon
dreamy slate
I also hated bow before I knew how to play it
good point
pseudo kernel
But isnt that the case for all weapons
if you did understand from the get go you would just beat the game on your first run and blaze through it all. Like the point is to learn the weapons and slowly get to like them
tardy shadow
Hey y'all, I'm curious about the giant cogs that aren't spinning in the area between realms. They have a small glint to them making my video game brain think they can be interacted with somehow. After ||Elysium|| there's a machine with chains that lead down, same glint but I still can't do anything with it
Am I just not far enough along, or totally off base here?
tardy shadow
Seems super sus
reef zodiac
Seems super sus
I guarantee you it’s just background
reef zodiac
the aspect of arthur is cool
Big sword
leaden birch
Big sword
true
200 damage with the third swing
god damn!!
these "future" aspects are really cool
only got the spear and the sword so far though
reef zodiac
Mm there are some really good ones that you haven’t seen yet, I’ll promise you that
pseudo kernel
I just got rama
leaden birch
spear one doesn't seem that good though
pseudo kernel
man i love it so much
reef zodiac
Guan Yu is generally pretty bad, yeah
Even with the best hammer, it’s still just worse Hestia
reef zodiac
I just got rama
Rama is great
mint coral
B-but my life steal 
leaden birch
also which aspect (excluding future because I don't know anything about that one) is best for the
twin fists
pseudo kernel
depends how you play right
mint coral
This is mainly coming from speedrun/high heat anyways
reef zodiac
Fists are just bad in general. But dem is way better than the other 3
mint coral
If you are playing casual talos is fun
reef zodiac
To be clear, when I say how good something is, I only mean that in a competitive context (how good it is at speed or high heat or some other challenging goal). It doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t use a weapon or anything so use whatever you like
abstract epoch
i still need to clear with the rail gun
but i don't really like it, but may just be the upgrades
pseudo kernel
hestia is your best Bet its alot of fun too
abstract epoch
how is the burst fire on it?
reef zodiac
how is the burst fire on it?
Don’t use it
mint coral
Eris can also do oonga bunga
reef zodiac
Just reload, shoot for 300+ damage, reload. Throw in a special every other one if you want
Yeah Eris is also super good
But if you don’t like rail, Hestia is a different way of playing rail that you might like better
abstract epoch
granted i partially blame dying the time i used it on fighting charon for the first time
wasn't expecting that kind of damage
reef zodiac
Yeah I still sometimes am surprised when he smacks me for 70 damage
abstract epoch
that said, he's fairly straightforward
reef zodiac
I really enjoy the fight
abstract epoch
always has an obvious cue as what he's about to do
well i guess all the bosses do, but him especially
leaden birch
Eris seems like a good aspect but I'm still getting all of the hammer upgrades so
My last run was Eris but with the Hazardous explosion or whatever upgrade
So I couldn't use Eris unless I wanted to keep hurting myself
reef zodiac
Eris seems like a good aspect but I'm still getting all of the hammer upgrades s...
Don’t use hazard on Eris lmao
Rocket is the best Eris hammer
Cluster is also amazing
abstract epoch
cerberus summon
reef zodiac
Combine them and you’ve really got something going for you
abstract epoch
which i didn't see coming at all
reef zodiac
spear throw, double spin2win and
Heal
reef zodiac
Ok? Still a new attack
leaden birch
Don’t use hazard on Eris lmao
Yea I know but
flint breach
What is actually a good way to get around Cerberus summon besides call that makes you invincible, just seems that's what's wrecking me in last fight
abstract epoch
oh and he summons mid-bosses
leaden birch
I was still getting all of the upgrades for the prophecy
abstract epoch
instead of the usual jobbers
leaden birch
And Hazard was one of the ones I needed
Haven't finished any of the hammer prophecies yet but
reef zodiac
Hazard is great on Hestia
leaden birch
I think I only need 1 more on Stygius
reef zodiac
Sword hammers 
abstract epoch
all my ambrosia getting stockpiled cause i still haven't used any
still have no clue how to get rid of the locks on the bonds
abstract epoch
so in the case of cerberus?
leaden birch
all my ambrosia getting stockpiled cause i still haven't used any
same
have like 14 I think since Meg's maxed out and I haven't bothered to do the other ones yet
reef zodiac
Turn ambrosia to titan blood. Just leave 11 for meg keepsake + max level
leaden birch
...oh right you can upgrade companions
meh I'll do that after I max out the other bonds
abstract epoch
for hades i'm guessing you need to see the epilogue
abstract epoch
just the end of the main story
epilogue is like
finish a run a bajillion more times or something
mint coral
So I couldn't use Eris unless I wanted to keep hurting myself
Late but you can dash through the explosion to not get hurt with hazard eris
As long you arent holding attack
manic carbon
idk sounds unreliable
mint coral
Is easy to do
Non rocket special is really slow
can also just get delta chamber and not having to let go of attack
abstract epoch
since i don't want to use the default sword again, which is the best aspect to go for?
mint coral
And if you dont wanna play sword use poseidon
strong ridge
smair
gritty stump
I got excalibur yesterday and it gave me a new appreciation for sword
before I had 0 clears with stygius, and now it's my fastest clear by like 2 or 3 minutes
prisma void
hey, is anyone around?
got a huge, and I mean huge problem with the game rn, and nothing seems to fix it
I can't pet cerberus
gritty stump
did you already pet him and just forget?
prisma void
wish that was the case
gritty stump
uh oh
prisma void
I tried between runs, between rooms, restoring files, reinstalling, changing the carpet
thing is, I believe its the carpet's fault, as dumb as it sounds. I did use to pet him every run, but now after buying it the button does nothing. It's not controller's fault since I tried keyboard too
prisma void
ngl Im kinda afraid to do so, there's plenty of real issues around and mine is just some petty complain
signal aspen
Cerb is there but you can't pet him?
prisma void
yes
signal aspen
Ask in #h1-tech-support
prisma void
many thinks cat guy, your aid shall be remembered
prisma void
its fixed! made my day
slim geyser
1 boon if its common rarity
2 if its rare
3 if its epic
hot reef
1 boon if its common rarity
2 if its rare
3 if its epic
got an absolute monster of a build, i just wanna send an image of the end result
slim geyser
oh?
hot reef
don't know where to get image perms
reef zodiac
You don’t get image perms
hot reef
😔
narrow hemlock
victory screens go in #h1-victory-boasting
image embeds work outside of that channel, so to post images you just upload to another service like imgur, or even a personal discord server, grab the image link and post it here. we dont allow direct image uploads outside of victory boasting and #fan-works for varying reasons
reef zodiac
Supergiant Devs on their way to give the best % numbers to the attack with the best status effect and the worst % numbers to the attack with the effect that is generally a downside
slim geyser
which one is that
reef zodiac
Heartbreak Strike vs Tempest Strike
deep pivot
: "You mad bro?"
Just kidding 
crude surge
Poseidon should be the mad one he’s the guy getting scammed
I guess he has splash dash to make up for it
brisk trail
hi, could some one help me get the audio for zagreus saying "there we go"
as i really need to get him to say "we" for some sentence mixing
but after 12 runs
ive not had him say that after clearing a room
reef zodiac
crude surge
Is that a line he says?
trail pendant
Bouldy says a lot
narrow hemlock
@brisk trail 
are your dms open
brisk trail
yes
narrow hemlock
one sec
brisk trail
Is that a line he says?
it is, ive herd him say it and its listed on the wiki
crude surge
I have one of him saying why must we always fight like this Lernie
If you still need it
jovial pawn
Just got Nyx on the Mudae bot, except my friend already has her
this is the face of devastation.
flint breach
Just got Nyx on the Mudae bot, except my friend already has her
But do you have a shiny hoopa?
gray apex
You can check in the Admin chamber
proud glacier
even though I have a couple of escapes already?
and how do I unlock the admin chamber?
gray apex
You need to do more attempts until Zag gets a flashback when he goes to bed
Then it should show up at the contractor I think
wind goblet
do the hermes keepsake buffs still remain after removing it
fast willow
no
wind goblet
like i used it in elysium then i removed it for skelly in temple of stux
north leaf
Returning player here, wondering if its worth to get back into hades? Like has there been any new updates since the full release? ANy new weapons or so?
mint coral
No, Hades is done
pseudo kernel
nothing after release , the game is finished
north leaf
Oh damn, rip
fast willow
takes like 15 minutes per run :/
north leaf
Thats a shame
fast willow
youre pretty speedy if youre completing runs in 15 min irl time
north leaf
However its a really good game so I cant blame them
proud glacier
idk about irl time
pseudo kernel
to be fair the game its a rogue game its supposed to be fast and replayable, its the point of the genra
genre*
proud glacier
but there's like, only 5 weapons
high island
15 min RTA would be top 34 on the speedrun leaderboard, meaning only 33 players have done that.
proud glacier
it would take like 2-3 hours or something to do all of them
novel wasp
im here to cause chaos again
pseudo kernel
and you’ll always get better
north leaf
Regardless if the game is done or not, its fun to come back like once a year and start a new save and play to completion. Something I have done like 3 times
pseudo kernel
and make so stupid mistake and laugh at yourself
its almost the exact same feeling i get when i play FTL
flint breach
Ew flame wheels