#h1-discussion
1 messages · Page 1481 of 1
Hrm
So you're not totally locked in place
Still seems weird
You can kind of chain dash strikes very quickly
Attacking in a corner just to dash up to finish the combo
Try it, it’s pretty intuitive
It is really fun with Varatha especially
Yeah except they’re not dash strikes
That’s not what I’m talking about
Oh
How exactly does heat work
What are the variations
And are they all immediately accessible
Extreme Measures and Routine Inspection are not unlocked right away
And Personal Liability is Hell Mode exclusive
live and learn
especially cause i was at 50 max hp
What area where you in at least?
40
for me he did 16
the big swipes do 40
The shadowy thingies that cross through the arena might be 16 idk
Or maybe you have some big damage reduction
But I doubt it given that you have 50 max hp it's early in the run
Darren Korb is the singing voice for Orpheus. Michael Ailshie voices his dialogue.
But what if I want to mash Special on Rama?
mashing special is fine
special only rama is unaruably the only way to make this trash weapon useable. and even then its only somewhat useable since it only has access to one special hammer. its basicially nothing compared to the superiority of chiron. the attack charges up way too slowly to be useable and shared suffering is a gimmick at best, it adds nothing to help pulling this aspect out of mediocrity. if youre lucky enough and get repluse shot you might - and I say MIGHT get the chance to actually get an attack off with this thing, and even then its simply not worth it. the attack speed is way too slow and the damage completly pales in comparison to actually fast hitting aspects like gilgamesh. its sad to say but supergiantgames design philosophy of making most hidden aspects basicially a slow and unusable version of their base weapon has backfired completly. first beowulf - now this. hidden aspects are supposed to be strong and rewarding for the sheer grind I had to go through to unlock them. I dont even know if I want to unlock hidden rail at this point
Good job making this trash weapon useable.
did i do it right
1 blocked message

yes
The holy words of Toffel are not a joke.
I only know like one copy pasta and thats the one talking about amir laughing at the players when they die
We have like 10 by now 
Now you know two. Memorize them, so you can type them correctly from memory.
with emojis?
show me them. now
Just demanding things. No manners.
It would be too spammy
is there a link
you did say I had to learn to be nicer.
i guess i'm still learning

Yes. Scroll through the pins in #h1-builds-and-combat. There is a Link.
this is why aphrodite hates me
i only see the pins for the monthly challenge and a few others
There's a Link if you look closely.
off of the posiedon special ye
It's kind of a meme yea 
Just go Thunder Flourish instead
I forgot what was thunder flour
It's just Zeus Special
Instead of like going for Poseidon then getting your lightning bolts off of Sea Storm
Just get Lightning right away yknow
I went with Dio special this time
Tempest Flourish Chaos Aspect should have better boss damage than Thunder Flourish, so there's that.
next time I can use the shield I'll try it
You can def make the build work. Probably with Zeus' Aid ideally. After Sea Storm, you'll want Static Discharge and some poms on that. And also poms on your Special, of course.
Also Razor Shoals.
I'll try it
thank
but for now, drunk shield
something is wrong with my dark thirst RNG tho
for the last 9 runs, it never left the left side weapons
Look for Heartbreak Strike or Passion Dash and get Low Tolerance.
Shoals is pretty nice yea
That's because it's actually random, so things like that can happen. Ironically actual randomness doesn't feel random when things like that happen, so very often for things like that you'll see pseudo-randomness where variety is forced.
If a die is random, you'll eventually get a series of 10+ 6 rolls in a row given enough tries, for example. Pseudo-randomness would prevent that and force variety.
The one thing Hades does for Dark Thirst, as far as I know, is that if you take the weapon that has Dark Thirst, it won't get Dark Thirst the next run.
BOULDY JUST GAVE ME ATTACK BUFF
we still need a bouldy worship/spam channel. it would be the most valuable addition to this server and make it feel more complete
i have one rank in all of the mirror thingys but its not giving me the achievement for it? any clue why?
you have to play with all of the ranks and beat it with each of them once
check the ones you already used
wish theyd put a well in the before boss shops
And remove the one after the boss?
probably
Eh idk I really like it being after the boss
It makes a very big difference
That way I can check the well before I unequip my bone hourglass
Are the five big slots at the bottom of the keepsakes supposed to be unlocked post game?
not specifically but usually
they unlock after you give ambrosia to certain characters
also ngl since we cant go back to greece id love it if we could tend to the garden in the house tbh
think he's talking about the 5 grey slots you have in the keepsakes list
and no, their is nothing there, for the moment
ohh wait
no i didnt understand lol
forget what i said xd
yeah you will unlock things by giving ambrosia to characters as lex said
if you plan to use mods yeah its a good idea 🙂
you can look the requiered specs see if it can run it
How do you give ambrosia to NPCs?
max out nectar
do their favor
should unlock after that
for example:
give like 6 nectar to skelly or something, then he’ll tell you his favor which is killing him with max level zag sword, and after you do that you can give him ambrosia and max out bond
skelly sequel
hello, is there somewhere I can report a bug?
So what happened was I did the whole run and was just outside the door to fight the old man, I downsized the game cause I was also doing something in discord on the side and was gonna wait til I wasnt distracted
open the game again and the game crashes thats fine
open it up and it kicked me back to Skelly's room 
I actually find it more hillarious than anything, I'm not expecting anyone to just 'give me back my progress' as thats impossible
I just figured it be worth noting the game seemed to crash when downsized for awhile. I had already ||Fed cerberus and done all the rooms in that area too||. It just seems weird it kick me out of the run entirely when I reload the save
Well this to suggest a bug, not to get the problem fixed
I think the save file is just written this way now
come to think of it, its probably just a case of the game only saves to the save file if you hit "Quit and Save"
so if the game crashes 
whatever, I'll take the funny story, dont worry
well, you asked where to report the buy, #h1-tech-support is good for that ¯_(ツ)_/¯
fair nuff. I glanced at it but assumed it might've been more for like
'can my computer run this' or 'the game isnt booting up at all'
meh
im too lazy now
lol fair
i think if the game closes without "quit" then you dont get to continue from your temp save yeah
makes sense
to like stop people from altf4 in the middle of a boss to restart or something maybe
yeah that makes sense too
dont know what caused the crash tho
I was thinking "oh maybe theys hould auto save at the start of each floor" but that would be easily abusable too to rig the RNG
yeah, that could've just been something on my end entirely
it was still playing sound just fine, but it went
as soon as I switched the window back to it
there is a "temp save" that is created i think at the start of every room
and can be accessed when you quit from the menu
so i apparently can get hades for “free” on comp bc i have it on game pass on console
Hades is a Xbox Play Anywhere title so yes.
@young ingot there are steps to recover your save in #h1-tech-fixes if something like that happens again.
yeah it be like that sometimes
1 prerequisite moment
Hello hello everyone! I hope you have a great day or night...... If tartarus has time cycle.
it's always 7:48
Sigma Demigod Schedule
7:48 Wake up
7:48 Beat up a talking skeleton
7:48 Jump out the window
7:48 Feed a boulder
7:48 Abuse your girlfriend
7:48 Sell every Olympian boon and invest your life savings in Boatcoin
7:48 Stow away on a barge for a free commute
7:48 Collect additional funding
7:48 Lose your life savings to Boatman
7:48 Lose your life to Boatman
Boat coin 🤣🤣🤣
LIKE A BOSS
https://youtu.be/AvokyBOYe8Y
Hades got played in the Steam Deck release trailer!
Steam Deck is now shipping! Reserve yours at http://steamdeck.com
Steam Deck is the first in a new category of handheld PC gaming devices, with a custom processor developed in cooperation with AMD that makes it comparable to a gaming laptop. You can play games from your Steam library wherever you go. As an open PC, you can also install any soft...
where, i didn't see it
though im curious as for which games are in the trailers, i see a bunch of indies
whats the best mirror look like
- Shadow and Fiery presence are both good for different weapons
- I prefer chthonic but it doesn’t really matter at all
- Death defiance is much better at low heat, but once you get to 32+ heat I suggest using lasting consequences 4 (pact condition: no healing for 4 heat. Seems more brutal than it is) in combination with Stubborn Defiance.
- Greater Reflex is better for everything except maybe some shields and definitely Gilgamesh (hidden fists)
- Boiling blood is better unless ~80%+ of your damage comes from a lodging cast (such as Hera or Poseidon aspect builds), in that case you might want Abyssal but Boiling is still always safe and good
- Infernal soul is generally better but Stygian absolutely has it’s uses. Knowing when to use it comes with experience, so if you’re not sure then just use infernal.
- Deep pockets is always correct unless you’re doing some weird gold farming run
- Thick skin is better, except High Confidence is great for speedruns (not high heat though)
- Family Favorite should be your default, but some builds are better with PStatus. A lot of less experienced players really overrate PStatus and end up taking bad statuses just to fulfill it. Just get your ~25% from FF and don’t worry about getting 2 statuses unless your build is planning on doing that anyway
- Dark Foresight is 100% of the time the best option, and also the second or third best thing on the mirror. Don’t ever underrate how truly insane DF actually is
- God’s Pride is standard but keep in mind that Legacy will pretty much double the odds of a duo or legendary showing up (you still need the prerequisites though) so if your build is looking for more than one, or needs one to function, then consider God’s Legacy.
- Fated Persuasion is basically always better than Authority
from mr pancake
ty
I mean you still can’t get it without getting two other boons first

Correction: he's not a demigod.
hes not abusing his girlfriend. 1: theyre both having an equal fight since her job is to kill him. 2: meg probably likes the pain anyway
imagine waking up and thats on your wall
not just on the wall but everywhere
and theyre all making dusa noises
"hi zagreus hi zagreus hi zagreus hi"------
or wait "prince" my bad
fake dusa calls him zagreus
and theyre all stressing out about cleaning even though theres nothing to clean because the room literally has nothing except dusa everywhere and the rooms white
Megara this, Megara that, Where are the Alecto Stans?
Why do people forsake the best girl?
Idk why do people forsake Dusa :)
I never understood why she’s this worshiped but she’s cool
dusa's adorable
peak character design from jen zee
an adorable circle with anxiety
what a mood
Because she kills my Meg% runs >:(
yeah but
zagggrrrreuussssss, murrddderrer 
death defy
you can check at the top of your health bar
You always use lucky tooth last
Did you write this article?
Fshegxgafgsbf
not that article
Easiest but not worst lol
I'm not a journalist so no
can’t believe eClaire#0344 works for the gamer
to be fair, is the author of that article?
i should be a game journalist you can just write anything
literally
Anything.
“top 10 builds to fight hades number one sea storm beowulf”
The gamer has got to be one of the worst offender I have seen though, especially concerning their "guides" written by people who clearly don't play the games they are writing for.
ye a h
Instead they should listen to me and my patented Hunter Dash Doom Hestia.
Yea next time I play I gotta use those
oh god this is terrible
what are they talking about? lol pierced butterfly doesnt even affect boons
who knew move speed makes you unstoppable
Pain
Many pro players
Literally who?
LOL
Me
Explain yourself
No
And the Council will decide your fate
Ya know the good ones
It's treason then

Doesn’t mean it’s baaaad
Someone on the internet said it’s good and the internet never lies
Wait which article is this from
its terrible if you cant dodge plus you're leaving the boons you can access up to chance
Best keepsake I think (from the same website)
Heh I’ve never used the boon keepsakes
LMAO
- why
- why
God I hate that their guides are so bad they are getting traffic because it's so bad.
ye a h
why???? i cant imagine playing without them once I started to
I should make hate click websites tbh
no way wtf
um no i literally just use skellys lucky tooth and never unequip it /s
I’ve only played like 30 games lol and I’ve stuck with the same 4 for better or worse
what could possibly go wrong?
depends. sometimes it can ruin a run
Bruh it's like they purposely made this bad
I only equip it on the last biome
NO THE BEST KEEPSAKE GUIDES RANKED PLUME AT 3RD DNOTJTOSN
which 4? I start with 2 god keepsakes and use acorn in elysium and styx
i cant
literally
i play the gane without unlocking any keepsakes
(Obviously i dont know the names) Start with either choas or uhm whatever sisyphus has, then gold pouch, Cerberus, lucky tooth
I plan on not doing that
i usually go:
-god
-god
-pom blossom or coin ouch
-acorn
I just wanted to get ten wins real fast first
So didn’t change what worked
chad?
sometimes pom in asphodel if i have most of the build
Yea that’s probably a good idea I plan on using those more when I know god combos?
honestly the "guides" on Hades are decent compared to the other guides that site has on Darkest Dungeon.
like seriously
the one that lets you see god boons
Ohhhh just realized what you meant yea I do
the save?
Well just start a hell run
ohh
I think that’s how that works
Yea after I got my second win the game started feeling a little toooo easy
Wait the guides on that site get worse?
all hell mode does is let you use the pact if punishment
you can do that if you’ve already won
Doesn’t it include another thing on the pact
Much.
I won't go into much details but basically they suggested to do literally impossible things, like getting Curse of Drowning on Beowulf.
well yeah
Either way it sounds worth enough just cause hard is fun
fair enough ig
And of course they have nonsensical listicles for strongest classes and whatnot.
But getting cod on beowulf isn't impossible 
okay you know what I mean, like Beowulf is not possible to get some boons
Yeah ik
I’m just going to get ten wins first
did you get your first victory?
I just feel like if I don’t do it now it might be too late eventually
I think I’m on win 8
Out of the like 30 runs I’ve done
also while i’m here
how do people do fresh save to credits runs? like what to prioritize/farm, ect
Im Equally curious
i in no way have the skill to do that but it’s interesting
I might start with just regular runs for fun and just do it fast I guess
Maybe eventually I’ll be that skilled
One website suggested “lightning strike on coronacht”
Literally any other attack is better ngl
my god
at least it's not Dio Attack
truly an ahead of its time build
Drunken Strike still better than Lightning Strike on Coronacht.
There's journalism and there's "journalism".
i dont think i know of a single good game journalism site tbh
lets not even talk about the websites that just repost stuff from reddit to use as articles
buzzfeed?
oh yeah its gamerant
basically stealing articles around the stardew valley reddit server and apparently the skyrim one too
if someone does or discovers old information about the game theyll just post like "guess what one player in stardew valley did" like its new
not gamerant
Back to Hades. 
what about him?
oh right this is #h1-discussion
other than dusa, meg, than, bouldy, and skelly, who gives the last companion
Master Achilles and Patroclus.
Ach and Paddy
daddy paddy
alrighty

if im using zag bow and i'm going normal crit, is there any point to pomming the attack?
it doesn't go up much with each pom so
if not i'm not sure what else to pom
Deadly Strike you mean? You'll want to get Hunter's Mark and put some poms on that.
Also look for Hunter Dash or Passion Dash (for Heart Rend) and Strike/Lunge boons from Master Chaos.
hows arty cast hera
Bad
is kbm viable for speedruns
like me
I use my keyboard for screenshots, that counts, right?
i tried a kbm speedrun and died to Meg
git gud
quick note: i have once again forgotten to record audio LOL im very sorry about that, i really wish this vod could've had audio but i make mistakes
got the sub5 modded!! this was a hell of a run, blessed in just about every way possible. really glad i could get hera here, this bow deserves it. finally have a modded PB better than my unmodded lo...
oh nice
I was also blindfolded
ok ill put it on
Isnqoricnskaowntbfosnqlsitbwksofbwos -me trying to type with my blindfold
damn thats crazy

"Wow great run!"
Thanks but it wasn't me running it. It was Baj, Zeus Shield pioneer. I made the route, he ran it. This is a reuploaded version of it since it's no longer on his channel.
"Why is the luck so good? Why do you keep summoning?"
This is a routed run, starting on a known seed and using RNG manipulation to steer the game towards opt...
this is actually my second run with controller where i was blindfolded and looking the opposite way and my hands werent touching the controller
im doing a boonless run and now i understand why people like bestia
I was born without arms, eyes, the sense of touch or functional ears and I beat hades just by willing zag to do stuff on 64 heat, without attacking, dashing, specialing, casting, boons or any increased max health
can Hades dialogue be sent here?
there are lines in the game that i adore so much 😩
and i just wanna share my love for the writing that Supeegiant does 🥺😩
i died to em3seus but yknow what that was great
i'm surprised theres no dialogue compilations on youtube. at least i havent seen any pop up
finally 100 hours
shamelessly plugs mine:
https://youtu.be/BQlOk4CmN9A
all after credits stuff tho
you're not the first person that said so lol
the you tubes had decided it can go mildly viral for a treat
My friend keeps saying the hades art style is anime. It annoys me. So what do you guys and gals think?
And non-binary friends. 
Yeah my bad.
I don't really understand why it's bothering you. Like, anime isn't a bad thing. If your friend thinks the style looks anime, nothing wrong with that.
Ok but does it look like anime tho?
There are so many different anime with so many different art styles. 
So... the style is anime if there are characters with two different eye colors regardless of the style.
Forget about any of the premises there, that makes no sense logically.
That's the reaction I would give and then just move on. 
Oh
Theres a max?
I has just it 20
Extreme measures to max
Damage high
Prices increase and timer
Also trap damage
63 on Normal File and 64 on Hell Mode
EM4 gets pretty hard with other modifiers
Like FO HL etc
So that's normal, the fight takes practice
If you just want to clear at high heat you can avoid taking that
Don't worry, the things you can unlock will make it much much easier later
Plus you will have learned all the enemy patterns etc. by then.
I wish that after you have unlocked everything the broker would occasionally have a "sell me anything for darkness" special sale, maybe once every 20 runs or so.
oh god 5 min timer is worse than i thought
I’ve got a question so i like dead cells and hollow knight i havent played hyper light drifter but do you guys think i should buy hades
aspect of guan yu is actually insane
I just ran a special crit build and I turned the final boss into a joke
I really reccomend hades so yes, I started after having 200 hours on hk
keep in mind that its not a metroidvania, the gameplay will be different than hollow knight and dead cells. its really fun though, and since this is a channel for hades people here will most likely tell you to buy the game (me included
)
it is one of the best rated games on steam, I'd be very surprised if not just you but anyone would not like hades
its not even that expensive comparatively
its very worth the price
Ok i think i will buy it cuz i bought it a while a go
But i refunded it cuz the new dead cells dlc came but i am gonna buy it was always in my head
u refunded hades cuz of dead cells dlc?
I think you would really enjoy hades if you like hack n slash rogue like
Ok ty for advice
Ye but i after the refund o wanted tonplay hades
how dare you /j
than romance done 
DUSA TOO
quick question
is it possible to meet sisyphus, eurydice and patroclus in 1 run
because i've never gotten all 3 before
yes
yes you even get a special run clear message for it
you gotta keep all your DDs into Elysium and then he will
omds it's so true
whenever I have a bad run and I lose multiple dds he never shows up
dc and hollow knight are my fav games, ill add another perspective: hades was really fun until after i beat the final boss for the first time, then i got super demotivated and rarely play, so id say its probably worth the risk of not liking it but keep in mind it doesnt handle difficulty increase as well as dc
so like you can not like a game but hades definitely handles difficulty scaling really well
not motivation wise
dead cells always has another bc to aspire to
idk wat bc is
until its insanely difficult anyways
another tier of difficulty
like you beat base game 0bc
then you try to beat 1bc
Then 1-5
and its connected to the story
id say you are just disintrested in the speedrun/heat aspect of the game
well then maybe the combat isnt my thing and/or worse than dc
So hades is easier than dead cells but dead cells combat is complicated and hades story art gameplay is better
the story and immersion of hades is better
by far
i wouldnt say the gameplay is better imo
Ok
Doesn't make sense comparing the two
dead cells is an entirely different type of game
Ooooo lmfao didn’t knew that
Iam gonna buy it again cuz not only hades looks rrally good those 90 minutes i played it before the refund were really fun and otherwise iam gonna wait for silksong so ye iam gonna buy it
but anyway past the story aspect the main draw of hades is difficulty and times for the sake of itand if u dont care about that sort of thing in games then ya hades wont be overly appealing
Ok thats great cuz i love story in games
Ok thats wonderful ty
the story is more character based than event-driven though
dont think so
damn
i love using aspect of arthur
No. Definitely not.
sad
It’s more of a platformer
Hades is more open
Kind of, you can’t jump in hades
Zag suffered some side effects from being ||stillborn||
his 3rd dimension of movement got shadow realmed
fire feet includes +gravity
zag goes over things in the game
OH COME ON IN THE BLOOD IS THE INSTRUMENTAL?
i mean the instrumental slaps but i thought it was the full song, eh ig it was worth the 5 diamonds
none of the music from the music stand has vocals
hiii I am new here 
Imma try 100% Hades and may ask for advice... And... thats it... Nice to meet you all
hey!
okay i think i might like thans keepsake better then meg
like if youre speedrunning you need meg
but that damage
I don't need to gift Hades ,Nyx or anybody in the house to get the true ending right?
nope
its very helpful to gift everyone at least once
but more then that no
unless you want to forge bonds
Ah
Six of the following are required:
Zeus at 7 hearts
Poseidon at 7 hearts
Athena at 7 hearts
Aphrodite at 7 hearts
Artemis at 7 hearts
Ares at 7 hearts
Dionysus at 7 hearts
Hermes at 8 hearts
Demeter at 6 hearts
Why Hermes at 8?
i have no idea, but you can just not do hermes since only 6 of them are needed
Well I got Aphrodite at six hearts
https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Hades_Wiki this should be able to answer a lot of your questions (that aren't run-dependent)
Ah
does extreme measures affect charon fight?
how long did it take yall to clear it?
if you take a higher heat than your current max heat gauge, are the lower heat rewards still available?
like if your max was 12 but you took 16
can you still get rewards for 13, 14, and 15?
yes
i see
basically say your max is 8
you complete 10, get 8s rewards
complete 10 again, and get 9
complete 10 for the last time and you finally max it to 10 and cant get more rewards
i see
Question, Is there anything specific I need to do to get the following boons to show up, or do I just have bad luck?
Glacial Glare
Rush Delivery
Hunter Instinct
Blown Kiss
Are they like weapon specific/Do I need to use a specific mirror thing to get them to appear?
Glacial Glare requires Crystal Beam. Rush Delivery requires Lambent Plume, Hyper Sprint, or Greater Haste. Hunter Instinct requires any Call and any boon with crit chance (except for Hunter's Flare). Blown Kiss requires Crush Shot.
@high islandThank you so much
Sure thing!

Fury sisters are hell if the main one’s Alecto imo
I’m not sure why people think Tisiphone is hard, seeing that you can literally just dash into her projectiles with Athena and deal massive damage
Furies are all easy after a while
They become tougher once it’s high heat with melee aspects
Besides that I havent had any issues
Oh god imagine Tisiphone with a melee
Alecto always brings me good luck.

Meg’s the easiest imo
Alecto’s rage and her stupid perma sawblades that deal like 10 damage per hit and don’t push you away bring me low even on heatless
Probably a skill issue on my end
She is probably the hardest for me
tisiphone is the worst
because she only appears when i have good pace
1:25 into furies? tisiphonied
It would have been more interesting if their EM fight was fighting all three of them simultaneously.
For Speedrunning yea I never wanna see Tis

I’m kind of a Hera gamer now
That’s hell
classic.
Dude that’s just like fighting em4 hades
they said it couldnt be done.
they said that kbm hera was unplayable for anyheat
I think Meg is best
Ocke and Bright proved that wrong a while ago
Alecto does too much sheer damage
Ocke got like a 6:0x yesterday
Unless you have strong drink
On kbm aim assist Hera
Ayo what

The entire game?
Yea
What the hell

Must’ve been routed 
nah hes just that much of a gamer
I got a 0:00 yes totally
How tf is it even possible to beat the entire game so fast
That equates to less than a minute per region
And then there’s dad
How would you shred him
Into pieces
In like 10 seconds
I’ve heard of asterius charmed exploits that make him 3 hit the other guy
But hades
hades wr kill is like 24 or 27 sec unrouted iirc
Be a gamer and pray the gsme takes mercy on you 
Cause if you have a great build but forced to play most of ely-get sacked in styx thats gonna hurt
Yea it's a mix of good build + good rooms
But your play has to be on point aswell
There's plenty of Speedruns on the leaderboards you can watch
They considered that, but it would just be the same fight every time. The way it works now has a lot more variety.
i also wish that em1 was more than it is but if it were all 3 u would have nerf each fury since all 3 would just be too much
It would also be far too painful
Yeah probably worse than normal dad
Not worse than em4
But still absolutely painful
Actually no it would be far worse
I haven’t accounted that you have like 150 health at most by that point
Assuming you didn’t disable mirror
u also have no build usually
That too
Damage output is like 2 dps
You’re still trying to get the base boons for your build
Yeah furies are going to slaughter zag
And that would make any heat higher than say, 40, basically impossible
And then if they’re gonna balance that, they need some lore to explain the nerf
Maybe brutal infighting or something I guess
Usually like 75 or 80 with RI2
Furies at high heat you can basically only take 2 hits, 3 if you're lucky with health
But even if you make it through after taking 2-3 hits, it means Asphodel is gonna be a lot scarier because you're going in with 30%.
The true hell mode right there. I mean, if we're going with mythological accuracy here, dad fighting Zag in his divine form would probably result in a two-shot per DD if you're lucky.
I'm thinking for such a nightmare setting, Lernie's heads have a longer range and they constantly move to swamp you with crush attacks. Not so sure about the Heroes though - a lot more move mixing, and probably new techniques.
I like your optimism that you're actually finding a Centaur Heart. 
but i always go into aspho with 30% 
If you’re at 50+ heat and you can manage to make it out of tart without using an SD, that’s very rare and impressive

How are you guys doing high heatd with coronacht? I can barely finish it without a heat
Rama aspect kinda good 
Upload it on imgur or somewhere and link it.
Don't know how the guys do it, but I mainly just pew-pew-pew.
Practice Dash-Strike Power Shots.
^^^
much faster dps than normal power shots despite the lower damage
Rama is great for very high heat. But at less than 40 heat, there are builds for all aspects that do decently well
But yeah with Zag bow, every since attack should be a dash strike and almost all of them should be power shots. Just get the muscle memory down
Rama special builds are quite fun.
Rama special builds 
special only rama is unaruably the only way to make this trash weapon useable. and even then its only somewhat useable since it only has access to one special hammer. its basicially nothing compared to the superiority of chiron. the attack charges up way too slowly to be useable and shared suffering is a gimmick at best, it adds nothing to help pulling this aspect out of mediocrity. if youre lucky enough and get repluse shot you might - and I say MIGHT get the chance to actually get an attack off with this thing, and even then its simply not worth it. the attack speed is way too slow and the damage completly pales in comparison to actually fast hitting aspects like gilgamesh. its sad to say but supergiantgames design philosophy of making most hidden aspects basicially a slow and unusable version of their base weapon has backfired completly. first beowulf - now this. hidden aspects are supposed to be strong and rewarding for the sheer grind I had to go through to unlock them. I dont even know if I want to unlock hidden rail at this point
Lmao
You can tell this was written as a joke because not even a bad player would think repulse shot is your only hope 

I just noticed “unaruably”
no one would call beowulf bad
idk man i just copied and pasted
Why do speedrunners use slow aspects like Beowulf when Guan Yu is right there? Are they afraid of getting hit? 
Also the obligatory “you could probably have saved up to 15 seconds if you rebound your buttons so you can play faster” 
TheGamer video did 
special only 😑 rama 🏹 is unaruably 🇬 the only 1️⃣ way to make this trash
weapon
useable. and even then its only somewhat
useable since it only has access 🔑 to one special hammer 🔨
too much work to keep going
"beowulf isnt for everyone, because of bulky and slow it is"
"should be looking for boons from ares and posideon" 
Idk if there’s a nicer way to say this but everyone who thinks Beo is slow is playing the aspect wrong. And I know that because I was there too
people who think beo is slow have to git gud
"not pretty" you're goddamm right. "and its not quick" damm wonder why
I hate that youtube removed dislikes so much
now you cant tell that these "op builds" are horrible
theres a chrome extension that brings back youtube dislikes
the like to dislike ratio on that video is stupid 
ty
why would you be going for ares and poseidon boons
never used that in my life
he has lightning strike, lightning flourish, thunder dash and ares call by the end of tart on beowulf
tell me this guy is not a genius
but...why? this is for beowulf right? and why no cast. specifically, why ares call?

beowulf literally relies on the cast to damage
that's true I guess, I usually start off with the cast
so not having it at that point sounds bad to me
this build sounds really stupid though
if you're really taking all those zeus boons why not take zeus call instead of ares
Charged flight was +400% before iirc
I always forget to use the companion in any boss fight.
charged flight beowulf 
best weapon for noobs?
the one you'll do best with is almost always the one you enjoy the most, but if you're undecided or have no preference, the bow and the shield are usually the safest
give me a recommendation pls, Ares attack or ares special on Gilgamesh fists?
attack
Yeah, why no Ares cast? The best Beo cast boon 
Why not icy flare
I’d take icy over slicing any day
Although at least slicing is unique
Icy is just strictly worse than other options
What if: passion flare but with half the damage and a much worse status effect 
See the trick to icy flare is to just get damage other than your cast 
also the trick for slicing Flare
Poseidon special
yo yo?
Yo whassap!
good one

You can start with some flat damage on the attack
That's usually the go-to
Poseidon Special is just for the memes, it's fun, you could go for sea storm ig sure
should be good with rupture
anyone else think that dusa is cute asf
imagine actually playing the game
i use it as a home decoration game lmao
Does anyone know if using Thanatos' companion stops him from randomly appearing? I'm trying to finish the romance :')
it doesn’t
damn so I'm just incredibly unlucky
probably lol
lol ty for the help
I've finally gotten the sneak with dad at em4 - cast build didn't save me from being one shot with Gigaros thrust with no DD
am i a big noob if i play with god mode?
no
should i keep it on or turn it off
Are you struggling to finish runs
Start with it off then turn it on if the game gets too annoying?
yes and no
i beat it like 3 times
but i keep dying on hades
so turn it off?
I meant which attacks, mb
For the spin, watch out for the circle that appears before it, then dash towards hades
Also if you’re not using +1 dash from the mirror, start
no i am
For big laser attack you can go behind him if its the 3 lasers for free dmg
If its the all directions one you can stand right next to him for same wffect or just go behind the pillars
alright thanks
should i attack when i stand right next to him with all pointing lasers
or no
Yes
wont get dmg if i stand right next to him and attack?
Not if you are really close to him
Yeah a hug can save your life lol
Tho dont do things like cast
The knockback of those might push you into the lasers
alr thanks
dident die this time thanks!
Gaming
How does Delta chamber work with Aspect of Hestia?
Seeing as it mentions no reloading.
you can still reload with it
specifically on hestia you can reload with delta chamber still
What hammer is best for each aspect of the Rail
cant go wrong with cluster + rocket bomb for the all rails excluding hidden aspect
spread fire is great on zag rail
clockets for first 3
infinite ammo on luci is p good i think?
also, only 5 achievements left!!
triple bomb is best luci hammer
this means i need to use and max distant memory 
orpheus i love you but why is your keepsake so terrible
Which is a shame I never get them
If you don’t get these two what are other consolation options
I know spread fire is good on Zag
How much damage are we talking
rocket bomb is still solid alone, targetting system, hazard on non eris (tho it works as a meme)
Hestia also can use ricochet/piercing
triple bomb isnt that bad but feels weird with rocket
SF zag rail i think is either ME or crit build
So how much is the fruit build potentially
I find that Delta Chamber is good on Eris if you can’t get Rocket Cluster
Oh yeah forgot to mention delta
Is super safe cause it makes so your dash iframes dont go away while dash striking
Also Dash strikes are really good with that burst damage
can pair with hazard bomb for peak meme if using Eris
I remember just giving up when I got Hazard bomb on a roll
Just gotta remember to stop shooting so you can i frame the explosion
Or have delta
go fish
if I equip a god's keepsake at the start of a run and don't change keepsake at the end of thartarus, will it work in asphodel?
Nope
Only the rarity bonus will
There is a small 1 under the keepsake slot when you equip it
It indicates how many uses are left
Once you take a boon from that god it disappears so the keepsake is used
Why is there no Hades memes page?
I've got a friend who just got the game and I wanna stuff them with memes >:(
lol well there's #fan-works.
hey ahhh
is hades gonna get anymore support
content wise
cause i really want to see this game expand even further
its so good and theres so much potential with future DLC content
You lose 5hp per sec
you can technically dash to i-frame TD if you’re at exactly 1hp with no DDs but the timing is precise and unforgiving
do I need to find Asterius alone as a mini boss to unlock Gilgamesh?
yeah
first need to find him with the fists equipped so he comments on them then again with any weapon for the waking phrase
he said something about fighting him unarmed, does that mean I can go with any weapon now and I'll still unlock it once I find him?
that should be the dialogue so yeah any weapon now
tho you have the titan blood invested on fists right?
yes
Boons of obelisk the tormentor
do chaos' dash-strike boons affect dash upper
Yes
as an extra chaos curse "dmg when using special" dont count if you do dash upper
oh nice
how does dashupper with kinetic launcher work
if i got demeter fists do they both get the extra hits
you just shoot a lot of balls
3 big balls

How do I complete the Place of Revelry prophecy? It says I need to renovate the lounge and I took a look at the Hades wikia which says that you need to do 10 lounge renovations plus clean up Cerberus fur and damage
I've done all of that but the prophecy still hasn't been fulfilled
talk to dusa probably
I already have multiple times
Are you sure that you cleaned up everything? I would maybe try to look through everything, then try to buy more stuff for the lounge, and then see again. Maybe look up if you need a specific interaction with Dusa for the quest to check off. If none of that works then Tech Support probably.
Need a specific dialogue from Dusa on her commenting on your renovations. So probably just RNG.
Yeah good point, RNG could definitely explain it given how much dialogue there is in this game
Nice
Is there any way to cheese or glitch cause I am really bad at it
Fishing
I am mean fishing
In game
Are you trying to catch fish and cant react fast enough?
I found that going by the sound clue is helpful
The fake bobs are just distracting
Can’t react fast enough or too fast
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. And from what I can tell, fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous fake bob.
Personally I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.
But I like getting perfect catches while reading discord.
I just do it by sound and rarely fail at it
Without spoilers, do I need to max affinity with all the Olympic gods for story-related achievements?
I think I read that somewhere
Ping me if you know
no, you only need to max 6 of them - with demeter counting as maxed when she reaches the lock
I see, so that'd be 30 nectar + 5 ambrosia?
?
Yes I'm a steering wheel gamer
Don't play Hades while driving.
Today, while tripping balls, I had the Achilles run of my life. Got zeus call and merciful end with Athena dash in freaking TARTARUS. Began the run with a Serrated Point hammer. Tell me why I STOPPED TO FISH. TWICE. And one of them was in Styx, WHERE I DIDN’T CATCH THE FISH. And I went on to come ONE SECOND short of my all time record.
Final time was 11:58.45, my best is 11:57.43
If I hadn’t fished…
But alas, I can’t help it… I see a fishing point and it doesn’t matter if I’m on a world record run, I’m gonna fish
fishing pauses the timer
you still lose time if the fishing point is far from the exit
oh yeah
I'm scared to log back on and play bc I ran out of death defiance and I'm about to face the elysium bosses.. I don't want to lose my 47 escape streak
just give up then and do a new run
its better to do that then risk losing it
hope you can get a 50 win streak
doesn't giving up effect the streak though?
If you give up the attempt never existed
So probably not
But hey, never tried myself so I might be wrong
Also, dang, that's a long streak. What heat are you on?
Huh
That's nuts
Definitely better than I could do

Though tbh I basically only die to EM4 at this point
I'll lose no death defiances the whole run and then at that fight I lose all of them, or die 
Is EM4 on this run?
?
I guess
But I've personally had it on for a while now since I really wanna git gud at this fight before I go into higher and higher levels of madness
And tbh other than the hades fight the game doesn't get changed that much by EM4
Hydra gets a whole lot harder, heroes can mess you up more, but the rest is identical to no heat
I guess its fine to practice, but I haven't even played with em4 yet
And then Hades is a whole other story, but having one chamber be really hard out of like 60 seems like a good deal for 10 whole heat
It's really nuts
and I've completed 32 heat at least once. I just don't wanna risk messing up at the very end, and if they care about their win streak, that would be a really bad idea.
Yeah
I mean low heat em4 is more fun than high heat em4 anyways lmao
Fight alone without other pacts isnt that bad
i guess
i just haven't even practiced the fight yet so I would probably lose
however if they have experience doing that they should be fine. maybe. but if they take em4 after a long time doing their streak without it, its not worth the risk
Fair
no it doesnt
the game acts like you never started the attempt if you give up
Cant say much cuz i never cared about streak
any nectar you gift etc will be erased as well
Also the dialogs and first room rng are the same
ok cool I'll do that then
@sweet glen mine is 6:57 unmodded unseeded
Wow
And will likely go down soon 👀
6:06
Mine is 4:49

Mine is 2:57
Mine is 7:05 modded

