h1-discussion

[gray apex]

Eury, Rare Crop or a swap

[raw herald]

This^ except I was too slow to type

[strong ridge]

r yarn able to make epic heroic

[high island]

No.

[strong ridge]

thx

[high island]

Yarn of Ariadne and Refreshing Nectar just guarantee that the boons you get are at least Rare. And you also get slightly increased chance to get epic or duo/legendary.

[strong ridge]

so yarn is scaled down nectar awsom

(length)

[high island]

Right.

[subtle coral]

but to be honest, i quite suck with ranged weapons

i like melee more

rail is cool but the bow

[slim geyser]

bow is tough

[subtle coral]

also i got the hidden aspect for the spear

[honest frigate]

Can someone help me?

[polar quail]

what do you need help with

[honest frigate]

hades save data error

[subtle coral]

rip

[polar quail]

oh idk how to fix that...

i hear its possible but it might be pc related

[honest frigate]

ugh this is bad

[subtle coral]

maybe your save is corrupted

[high island]

Check #h1-tech-fixes. If you can't find anything there, try asking for help in #h1-tech-support.

[lone kernel]

Once you master the dash strike power shot you’ll feel different

[subtle coral]

guan yu is kinda cool tho

[oak ibex]

Me using Guan Yu: more screaming than usual

[slim geyser]

can you get charged skewer + exploding launcher on guan yu

[signal aspen]

You can't get exploding

But it's kinda built into guan yu

[slim geyser]

f but alr

[slim geyser]

HOLY PERSEPHONES BOND FORGED ICON IS ADORABLE

[polar quail]

they all are

[slim geyser]

same with hades

almost maxed out with zeus and ares too

officially maxed out bond with ares

[oak ibex]

Forged Bond and chthonic companions icons are the reason I can continue to living

[slim geyser]

zeus bond

[slim geyser]

I CAUGHT A TROUT AND A STURGEON

[sly crescent]

Hello there

[novel narwhal]

can i ask a question about what to pick?

in this channel

[lone kernel]

yeah, context is also helpful

if it's do i pick zeus or ares the anser is it depends

[subtle turret]

Helloooo

[lone kernel]

but if its like, i have this weapon and this god, then yes, we cna help for sure

[woven oar]

HELLOOOO

[novel narwhal]

im before hades with 600 gold do i buy two poms or hermes im a triple dash spear build

[woven oar]

HERMES

[lone kernel]

do you have hyper sprint

[novel narwhal]

let me check

[subtle turret]

Shake the pop poms

[lone kernel]

and what is your damage sources

[novel narwhal]

no i dont

[lone kernel]

send me a screenshot of your build if you can

[subtle turret]

Whats a damage source?

[novel narwhal]

k

[lone kernel]

basically what youre doing for offense. like is it achilles spear focused on cast? hades spear with spin focus? there wasnt enough info there for me so i wanted more

[novel narwhal]

around what escape attempt do you unlock aspects?

[brisk trail]

aspects are unlocked after reaching hades iirc

[novel narwhal]

really oh come on i beat him multiple times already and still no aspects although im around escape attempt 20

wait i need all weapons unlocked for aspects right

[lone kernel]

Yes

[novel narwhal]

i forgot about that part

have you ever done a exit wounds build?

[slim geyser]

posideon sword

[novel narwhal]

ik but i mean how is it before my file got wiped i did it but i dont remember much about it other than it was pretty damn op

[lost storm]

i got 9% movement speed bonus from bouldy, is that rare?

[lone kernel]

id say so, hope for rush delivery for bouldy stonks

[novel narwhal]

oh yea what is needed for cthonic companions i know ambrosia is right or is it the other one i cant remember the name of

[lost storm]

i have plume as well

[novel narwhal]

you are speed

[lost storm]

ambrosia

is right

[novel narwhal]

how many hearts is needed for it?

[lost storm]

i think u have to max it

about 3 ambrosia

except for dusa

[novel narwhal]

three? i thought that it was one tho i only really had dusa but i had skelly as well? but i only spent one for them i think

[lost storm]

wait i might be mistaken

my memory is horrendous

i think companions only take 1

but for bonds u need to max the heart (if im not mistaken)

[novel narwhal]

what do bonds do i never got one

[lost storm]

it's just there

u get a cute icon of the characters on their keepsakes

[novel narwhal]

oh yea how many hearts for hades trinket

[lost storm]

either until you give him ambrosia or max out his nectar hearts

after bringing back persephone

[novel narwhal]

damn it i have 7 more times to beat him then

cause it takes 10 right?

[lost storm]

yes

u can do it!

[novel narwhal]

@lost storm sorry for the ping but i need help

[lost storm]

sup

nw

[novel narwhal]

mind if i send you a screenshot of what my choices are

[lost storm]

u couldve just dm me

[novel narwhal]

ah ok

[lost storm]

sure

[novel narwhal]

who hates charon?

like as a boss

[lost storm]

me cus ive only fought him twice

lost once

[brisk trail]

add multi

or lame

https://tenor.com/view/haha-kid-laugh-laughing-gif-10594705

[sick bobcat]

Can I still get the lyre achievement if the musician and the muse (orpheus leaving) achievement is complete?

[void vigil]

yes, he does not leave permanently

[sick bobcat]

Good to know, thanks

[calm cove]

okay so i’m fighting asterius 1v1 and when i’m almost finished killing him thanatos’ thing shows up above him. is he really that?

[twin thistle]

sounds like demeter's legendary

[gray apex]

He still shows up in the fight

It just looks cool

No pun intended

[random tiger]

Hello I just beat Hades with all the mirror of the night perks, but they didnt count towards the dark reflection prophecy

anyone knows if there-s a bug related to that prophecy?

[lone kernel]

There’s two options for each row on the mirror, double check you did all twenty

[random tiger]

I did

I was missing like 7 in the dark reflection prophecy, i just completed a run while having those 7 equipped, and the game didn't count it

I feel cheated ngl

I love the game and it's very annoying to find something like this in it

[feral belfry]

They keep track of what you've done

Just go look

9/10 these things are user error

[proud pilot]

damn just failed a 32heat with zag sword, had almost a perfect ME build, died 2nd phase of dad, didnt have lot of health 😦

[polar quail]

zag sword

how much health did you have

[proud pilot]

around 180-200 something like that

yeah i try to do other weapons, yesterday i finaly managed to win 32heat with chiron ^^

[high island]

You lost at weapon aspect select.

[polar quail]

of all aspects why zag sword

[proud pilot]

ahah well i make some tries ^^

i always play nemesis so.. wanted to change

[polar quail]

could do zag bow. thats similar with crit builds

[high island]

So... you picked Lv.0 Nemesis.

[proud pilot]

^^

i tried arthur but that was rly hard ^^'

[novel narwhal]

how do you get arthur aspect i forgot

[proud pilot]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Stygian_Blade look here 😉

[strong ridge]

dangg

[brisk trail]

Does hera drop in high heat?

[gray apex]

Yes

Starts around 45

[high island]

It's already noticeably worse at 32 than anything below that because now you have to take pacts that hurt your build, and Hera does not like that at all. It also doesn't like Bruiser enemies because you can't just kill them in one shot.

[brisk trail]

I'm clinging to it (i'm coping)

[polar quail]

yep achilles spear is way easier than rama

I will stick with this for now until I clear at 32 heat

[brisk trail]

The only other weapon I half know how to play is is nemesis sword but I forgot what boons and hammers are good because I haven't played in a while

[manic bobcat]

Crit, %Damage and Double Edge

[tacit nimbus]

It would be pretty funny if getting Charon's bond decreased the price of the diamond/titan blood by a single obol.

[polar quail]

i think 400-600 obols would be fine if that was the case seriously.

if it wasn't like, a joke thing

[tacit nimbus]

If it wasn't a joke thing, they could decrease out of run prices (darkness, gemstones, cthonic keys, diamonds, titan blood) by %25 or something.

forging a bond is expensive on it's own.

[polar quail]

that also works

i'm usually not looking to buy the titans blood from styx anyway, so it would be better if that was the reward.

[slim geyser]

tbh i wish you could buy nectar from charon

[tacit nimbus]

closest there is unfortunately is cthonic keys.

[polar quail]

if you by cthonic keys it doesn't give a reroll right?

I never buy keys in run

[tacit nimbus]

no clue

[mint coral]

yeah buying doesnt give the benefits

[feral belfry]

No way

[polar quail]

sarcasm or?

[feral belfry]

Rama way easier

[polar quail]

if you're good with the aspect I can see it being easy.

but I've only cleared with it once and probably didn't use it well.

[feral belfry]

Takes a wee bit if practice but fighting at distance is easier for me than melee

[polar quail]

fighting at distance is definitely easier than melee.

[fervent glacier]

hi

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/826053264805068830.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[polar quail]

I'm just a bit too slow with it, so I'd have to get better at using it.

[feral belfry]

Play on fo2 for like ten attempts then turn it off

[steep comet]

2 questions
1; if I get dionysus on special, and then a chaos boon that increases special damage, will only the initial damage increase or the drunken DOT as well?
2; for athena if I get the "your abilitties that can deflect also make foes exposed", and I have deflect on dodge, so I apply exposed by dodge even if I don't deflect?

[high island]

Flourish from Master Chaos doesn't affect status effects like Hangover.

[steep comet]

so then any % modifiers are for the initial damage and not the other effects the skill have right?

[high island]

When it says +% Attack damage or +% Special damage, yeah.

[steep comet]

thanks

[mint coral]

No need to actually deflect for exposed

If it says "deflect abilities also X", no need for other attacks

[steep comet]

nice, thanks

[dusty warren]

Quick question how do you keep giving a character nectar once it becomes locked?

[novel narwhal]

you use ambrosia

[dusty warren]

Oh ok thanks

[fervent glacier]

hey guys i'm new hi

[finite lodge]

Hi!

[fervent glacier]

how are you doing

[gray apex]

hi new

[fervent glacier]

hi again

[polar quail]

welcome

[fervent glacier]

thanks

[polar quail]

you're welcome

[dusty warren]

It’s not letting me give the ambrosia though

[gray apex]

You have to finish their favor to unlock the locked heart

[dusty warren]

Wait is that just a chance thing when talking to them?

[gray apex]

They're not strictly dialogue

There's some other stuff too

[dusty warren]

Wait then let’s take nyx for example, how do I do her favour?

[mint coral]

do the quest to reunite her with Chaos

[gray apex]

You have to reunite her with Chaos yea

[mint coral]

their favors are on the wiki iirc

[dusty warren]

Oh thanks

[proud pilot]

32 heats nemesis : DONE 😄

Now i have to do spear, shield and rail. Yeah, the rail will be the last on the list lol

[polar quail]

nice job. i've only finished 32 heat with one aspect so far...

wait rail as the last? eris rail was easy for me

[proud pilot]

rail is the weapon i played the least 😒 but i'll do it with eris i think too, that's the only aspect i played with the rail ^^ this aspect is cool yeah

im bad with the reload mechanic ^^'

[past gate]

Hestia is cool too

[proud pilot]

yeah it seems powerfull, but you have to get used to the shoot/reload/shoot/reload... to make it very strong ^^

i tried once lucifer and it was a disaster, had no clue how to play that aspect 😂

[mint coral]

Like budget eris

Or super soaker memeing

[past gate]

I may be mistaken, but I think that if you have Spread Fire, the shotgun hammer upgrade, the charged Hestia shot gets the increased damage but has its normal range

[mint coral]

Spread fire doesnt affect hestia reloaded shot

Know from experience

[past gate]

I really never get anything right, don't I

This game's weird

[mint coral]

Game works pretty fine till you look at beo tbh

Or speedruns/high heat

[proud pilot]

lol

beo is totaly fine wdym 🙃

[gray apex]

Beo is perfect

[mint coral]

Perfectly broken

[signal aspen]

beo is a perfectly balanced aspect

[proud pilot]

thats how we like it

[mint coral]

Such a good high risk-reward with itd +10% dmg taken

[crude surge]

Beo is gameplay as intended

It’s a feature

[signal aspen]

yeah beo is very risky

[crude surge]

A whole one heat

Huge

[mint coral]

For me the most funny thing is that mirage shot went unnoticed cause people were doing charged flight strats

[mint coral]

0.5 heat

Hard labor is 20%

[gray apex]

[past gate]

Even though I can see how it's better, I still like Zeus more because it's fast
Also I did my first run with Trippy Shot, just like I did for Hera, so at first I thought it was just Hera but again lmfao

[mint coral]

"hera but double the dmg"

[proud pilot]

^^

[past gate]

I really don't get what the deal is with Zag blocking bullets without having his shield in front of him, it looks pretty dumb

[signal aspen]

beo is just better hera

[past gate]

[past gate]

It is, but I suck at getting used to the slower styles

[mint coral]

Chonky hera

[past gate]

I'm too used to zoomin ig

[mint coral]

Rn hera is faster

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/869727407471485048/chart_1.jpeg

this is the blocking angle for beo

[past gate]

Yeah

[proud pilot]

is it a joke or real? lol

[signal aspen]

real

[mint coral]

Compare it to non beo block angle

[proud pilot]

oh

😂

[past gate]

The shield really just turns Zag's skin into metal

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/869727351003566092/chart_4.jpeg

[past gate]

He can block with his face now

[signal aspen]

regular shield

[past gate]

[proud pilot]

lol

didnt know the angle was different with beo, good to know

[mint coral]

I think zag puts beo sideways to block tbh

Only explanation

[gray apex]

Yea

[proud pilot]

^^ yeah

[gray apex]

So it’s actually accurate

[past gate]

Tbh it would be interesting if the visuals actually aligned with the block

[gray apex]

I tried to make use it for some stuff

[signal aspen]

even with the big block things like this can still happen https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/943997590377234532/Hades_2022-02-17_12-33-09_Trim.mp4

[past gate]

It would mean that instead of facing the projectiles like you do with normal shield, you'd have to look at a different angle

[gray apex]

But it doesn’t do much

[past gate]

Could provide some variety

[mint coral]

Something something block is reliable

[proud pilot]

wtf lol

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/940763756617682984/Hades_2022-02-08_00-59-42_Trim.mp4

block is cool

[high island]

They nerfed it from S tier to S tier, so it's fine now.

[proud pilot]

😂

[mint coral]

Charged flight was nerfed so mirage could run

[past gate]

52 damage from shield boi bullets?

High heat must be something else

[signal aspen]

hl5 + double dmg bp perk

[high island]

The Beowulf playstyle that's normal now looked pretty underwhelming at the time compared to Charged Flight.

[past gate]

Oof

So the Bruiser types are double damage, and health up?

Dang

[high island]

+0% from Zeus Aspect.

[past gate]

I thought there would probably be a damage increase but not this much

[signal aspen]

zeus

[past gate]

This is Zeus

[high island]

Yeah, that's what I said.

[signal aspen]

[mint coral]

Bruiser is just health

Is other bp perk that gives the dmg bonus

[past gate]

Ah

Yeah, I'm still a bit confused as to how those work, haven't played that many runs with them especially since I'm mostly practicing EM3 for now

[mint coral]

Bp perks are pinned on #h1-builds-and-combat

[honest frigate]

I recovered my game just by reinstalling 🙂

[obtuse jackal]

generally what provides more stable performance?

x64 or x64Vk?

[honest frigate]

x64 perhaps

[rich gulch]

There are days I dream of opening up Hades on my 84 Macintosh for the most stable of performances.

[obtuse jackal]

once you are able to do it do let us all know

[obtuse jackal]

alr tysm^_^

[high island]

Depends on your system. But if you're not noticing performance issues in DirectX, there's no real point in switching.

[chrome wharf]

the building I work in had a inventory swap day where everyone brought down their unwanted electronics etc, and you can take whatever you wanted and the rest would go into the garbage. There was this mad old monitor (like it was a cube and the screen was less than 1 foot by 1 foot and I so wanted to drag it home to see if I could hook my Switch onto it to play Hades but it was so heavy and I didn't want to face the heartbreak of doing all that for my switch to go "what is this old thing i can't talk to it" so i didn't

my laptop (bought 2 years ago) has weird audio dropping issues with the default settings so I switched to 32 bit and they stopped

[obtuse jackal]

noted thank you

[rich gulch]

My child, please accomplish this great feat. Put the switch to the test.

For science

[native knoll]

How many nectars do I need to have a companion maxed?

ambrosia*

[hearty mural]

1+2+3+4+5=15

[vocal wing]

Question to anyone: what is your most recommended boon

[slim geyser]

depends on build

divine dash is always good though

[rich gulch]

On that topic, I've concluded that passion dash might possibly be not too bad, mayhaps. Certainly something to consider well before deciding to sell at the Pool.

[vocal wing]

what about Athena's cast. I've heard some bad things about it but I don't get why people think its bad

[slim geyser]

passion dash isnt great on damage but its good for applying weak

especially if you have something like heart rend to go with it

[slim geyser]

how much darkness/other stuff does the unseen one cost

the rank

[native knoll]

OMG It's the first time i heard him singing and it's beautiful
https://imgur.com/a/5rGJJvA

anyone has a guide of how to get all favors? please

[high island]

Passion Dash damage is pretty nice. Decent pom scaling.

[high island]

You can find it on the Hades wiki for any character.

[native knoll]

thanks

[lone kernel]

Not sure exact number but it’s six figures

You’ll just have all the other stuff you need tho, if you’re going that deep

[signal aspen]

its 325k

[lone kernel]

based

the other cat did the math

[signal aspen]

better cat

Also what math lmao I just got it from the wiki

[mint coral]

@tawdry fossil moving here to not spoiler mark everything
beowulf most crazy bug is about mirage shot duo boon

if your cast is a "flare" instead of shot, mirage shot 2nd cast wont aplly the dmg reduction

so you get double dmg

[tawdry fossil]

well I'm only unlocking the ability to use titan blood on the next run so itll be a long time before I can use the aspect

[mint coral]

had a shade of the elysium guys live through the dad fight lmao

[oblique ember]

wow flying cutter feels so good

[strong ridge]

cursed hoarding anvil 😻

[signal aspen]

what

[strong ridge]

using excalibur my last purchase at stage 4 shop was the anvil and it took shadow slash and gave me cursed & hoarding slash

[signal aspen]

very nice anvil

[strong ridge]

no

it isnt

[signal aspen]

it is

[obtuse jackal]

are there plans on hades being on gog?

[twin thistle]

taking anvil on sword

[oblique ember]

zeus/athena fists by far the easiest hydra run

[oblique ember]

alright minotaur duo take 2

this run is somewhat clean

just made a build that lets me spam special and be able to deflect with anything

well just beat asterius for the first time no defiance required

aaand choked HARD on theseus

big yikes

[high island]

Just gotta get more experience in the fight.

[oblique ember]

100%

I was totally thrown off guard when I realized he was fighting melee

and even more when he started using his specials

almost had him though, wouldn't have been a deserved win but could've been a clutch win

also learned that the best way to fight asterius up front is to just duke it out with him and time your attacks so they block his

like fencing

[dawn shard]

I remember my first few fights with Theseus, it‘s something alright, but after a few more tries you‘ll definitely get there! And yeah with Asterius that‘s kind of it, there is a safer strat where you can wait after he does his jump attack, but that takes a lot of time

[oblique ember]

oh did not know this strat, thanks

[twin thistle]

well like youre not gunna be deflecting without athena

[dawn shard]

Athena in general is super helpful with any close range weapon against the heroes

[brisk trail]

Ngl, even tho I’m still bad at this game and I’m not good at these type of game, I still really like Hades and tbh, it’s my favorite. I don’t fully know what about this game that I really like but something about it make it pretty enjoyable.

[lone kernel]

if you win you deserved it

none of this defeatist stuff

upset come from behind victory sure but like

dont make yourself wrong for winning

[calm zenith]

I've literally put 0 thought into that fight countless times and still won

Its fine

When you get enough damage you dont need to react to them at all

They die in like 2 seconds

That's cheap

Getting a win while actually reacting to enemy actions isnt

[slim geyser]

so how would you classify 100% for this game

[oblique ember]

that's fair

[scarlet ice]

if there is one complaint i have with this game that I otherwise think is amazing and have sunk a ton of time into, its the frequent use of impervious barriers on bosses. nothing is more frustrating then sending a fully charged artemis call into a health checkpoint where it all gets soaked by the barrier. I know that its predicatable and always happens at the same %, but it really interrupts the flow of the game to play around it

[hushed lotus]

I only wish tight deadline would pause

[record scratch] you're probably wondering how I got here https://i.imgur.com/eERlMao.jpeg

[slim geyser]

i wish i would time it correctly around meg summons is what i wish

[scarlet ice]

how do they have four hearts? mine only goes up to two

is that their ability or something

[gray apex]

Yes

It’s Benefits Package

[scarlet ice]

ah

[gray apex]

It gives armored enemies 1 or 2 perks depending on BP1 or BP2

They’re random

It’s not specific to brimstones etc

[hushed lotus]

This is me trying 27 heat and having a bad time

[gray apex]

What pact and aspect are you doing

[high island]

Evidently not a winning combination.

[gray apex]

[fast willow]

inb4 ri1 cp2

[hushed lotus]

Hera bow; pact was 2x each the first four I think, EM 3, BP 2, MM 1, TD 7m. Can't remember if that's a little off

Huge jump in heat since I usually take EM4 and <=24 heat

[gray apex]

You can keep doing that

Or try to learn TD3

It just takes some practice but it’s easy

And worth a lot of heat

Also take UC

[hushed lotus]

I do UC at higher heats sometimes

I'm too greedy to deal with it as a preference

[gray apex]

UC is free heat at this level

It’s better to take than CF and Js

LC4 + SD also a good thing to start practicing

[hushed lotus]

5m is gonna be tough since I already go as fast as I can

[gray apex]

Yea but you have Jury summons

So that’s not a good metric

[hushed lotus]

That's true in general without any JS

I'm sure it's doable

But there isn't any low hanging fruit to improve

[gray apex]

You can definitely improve your room clearing, also you’re using True Shot which is one of the weakest options for Hera

The only thing you get is tracking

Which isn’t that amazing when you can aim with your arrow

[hushed lotus]

Really? I thought crits is generally big damage

[gray apex]

Crits are nice but you cant put crits on everything and do good damage

On Hera you just want the attack

Hunter’s mark possibly

That’s about it

Your cast should be crush shot

Best cast overall for Hera

[hushed lotus]

Yeah, aphro is the other one I do

[gray apex]

It’ll help you burst stuff so you can keep on killing stuff instead of waiting for your casts to pop out

Therefore you’ll also be faster

It’s pretty much the speedrunning build

[hushed lotus]

mm

[twin thistle]

crits rely on additional damage from other sources

otherwise they arent as good as higher% like aphro

[hushed lotus]

I did some quick math the other day showing they average around the same damage over time

I'll try to dig that up later

Dunno what it would be missing

[gray apex]

That’s probably true for bosses

For normal rooms crits alone aren’t as good

[hushed lotus]

Right - I figure by the time I'm in Elysium many enemies would need more than a few hits, so it's fair to take into account

[gray apex]

Needs hunter’s mark or other scaling as UnAnanas said

[hushed lotus]

I also figured that Artemis' other boons to make crits better were better scaling than mere poms

I wasn't as sure about that though

https://i.imgur.com/iCkT6UF.png True Shot base is 70; Crush Shot is 90. They scale at the same numbers, on average

For what little that may be worth

[gray apex]

Crush shot has aoe aswell

And the scaling is better nonetheless

[raw herald]

Crush shot has about 1.3x base damage and is AOE and inflicts weak

And has no travel time

It’s so much better

[hollow vault]

Hey i need some tips for two achievements

1. how do you get more chance for an enemy with the "burner" perk? (other than maxing out slashed benefeits)

2. how do you get thanos' buttterfly to 30%?

[gray apex]

These are exclusive to Asphodel

[hollow vault]

i mean, yeah

[gray apex]

Play Hestia or Charged Skewer Guan Yu

Or yknow

Beowulf

[gray apex]

That’s pretty much it, if you have BP2 on it should take 1 or 2 runs through Asphodel at worst

[proud pilot]

Guys if you have LC4, you dont get health back with Quick Recovery right?

[raw herald]

You do

[proud pilot]

oh ok, i tought it wasnt working

thanks 🙂

[calm cove]

what does redacted mean?

[raw herald]

Information is not to be revealed

(The name of the final boss)

To avoid spoilers

[indigo mountain]

le greetings! I couldn't find many people who I know in my circle who play this, so I hopped over here. hope you lot are doing well

[subtle coral]

i just beaten first phase of hades

how hard is the second

im running on last defiance so i hope ill make it

[lone kernel]

harder. try not to die

[subtle coral]

i almost had him

a

js

[lone kernel]

run it back

and take a deep breath when he's trash talking at the beginning literally just wait until you feel centered to start the fight

also be aware that hes gonna shoot out a blast you need to dash over right as phase 2 starts

[subtle coral]

bad builds

[lone kernel]

make better ones

[subtle coral]

i just like to deal high DPS

thats all

[lone kernel]

if you got to dad phase 2, somethings working

its not about blowing him out its about incremental progress

[subtle coral]

i have full mirror though

which is kinda poggers

[lone kernel]

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

that will help you focus your builds

[subtle coral]

hades is my first roguelike game

so i guess thats why i suck lol

[lone kernel]

knock it off, self depricating comments are a waste of both our time

take a look at the build guide

pick a weapon you like

if you have a full mirror, youre through the phase where you're trash

now you're tryin to push heat

[subtle coral]

sir yes sir

[lone kernel]

your post implies hitting second phase of dad isn't common

just wanna give you the tools to succeed

[iron oyster]

I get to phase 2 dad easily, but his spins kill me

Just a lack of skill on my end I guess

Can’t time it properly

[subtle coral]

his spins are pretty hard

[iron oyster]

It’s about timing I guess

Also is your pfp Sam

Yeah ok that’s definitely Sam like 10 minutes before his death

[lone kernel]

how many runs in are you?

yall are too damn hard on yourselves

i got 32 heat on most aspects now

it took me like, 45 runs to win once

57 for my second win

its a journey

"im trash at this" no you arent you're learning

theyre different

[gray apex]

im trash at this bro

[lone kernel]

you're a different story, git gud

cant even beat 65 heat

total scrub

[raw herald]

I took 46 tries 😔

[lone kernel]

@chrome wharf took 44 lol

nice little combo

[subtle coral]

of course

[gray apex]

I took like 100

[subtle coral]

he's right tho

its what they say

learn from your mistakes

[lone kernel]

we've established you're trash tho

(for the newer players, and for the inevitable nyaanyaa, he's way better than me im just goin with it)

[gray apex]

no

[subtle coral]

who is trash

[lone kernel]

Mike

But don’t worry about him

You’re learning terra

I’m giving you tools so you can be better than mike tomorrow ez

[subtle coral]

zamn

thanks man

deflect dash saved my ass numerous times

also strong drink

@lone kernel i defeated him

[lone kernel]

Based

[subtle coral]

wait whats the flaming skull window

[raw herald]

Max them all out and if you escape I’ll cashapp you 50k of whatever your currency is

[subtle coral]

real

[past gate]

Tried EM4 for the first time today
Holy crap is the music e p i c
The 50-damage spear throws are the bane of my existence rn but the rest is pretty cool tbh

Although I thought phase 3 would change the fight more instead of just dark mode

Anyway, what's a consistent way to not get wrecked by Cerberus?

[reef zodiac]

The spear throws suck tbh

Those are my biggest issue with EM4 for sure

Especially that they go through block at close range because hitbox

[past gate]

Oh yeah, I got one-shot out of my last death defiance when he was really low

Got hit by the heat bubble and took 100 damage from one throw

[lone kernel]

Hit hard enough that you can skip Cerberus. Good luck, I have no tips beyond hit him really, really hard (like fully operational mirage shot beowulf hard)

[past gate]

Oh, it's time based?

[lone kernel]

or use athenas aid

[past gate]

Cool

[lone kernel]

Yeah I think it’s 2/3 of his second bar gone he will call dog

[past gate]

Sigil of the dead

[lone kernel]

Someone fact check me tho I’m not positive

That works too

I simp for Poseidon’s aid so that helps a lot

[past gate]

Using dad to beat dad

[lone kernel]

Dad vs dad vs dog

[reef zodiac]

It’s skippable but very hard especially with CP1+

[lone kernel]

and yes em4 music is hype

[past gate]

Even with how often I run poseidon I'm just not getting that at all lately wtf

[lone kernel]

[past gate]

What's the real point of Athena's Aid when poseidon has similar iframes and amazing damage?

[strong ridge]

if u go to the bottom right of the arena i think it is easier to dodge cerby there

ime

[lone kernel]

Depends on your build. On Rama, I’d prefer Athena and just take a free point blank power shot

[past gate]

Oh, yeah

[lone kernel]

On fists, I rather Poseidon

Also athena opens up extra defiances which at high heat I’m taking, and I rather take useful boon than not useful boon

[past gate]

I had a nuts run today, got Rama on a crit build with both triple shot and point blank

The close-up hits could easily deal thousands of damage lmao

[lone kernel]

Yeah now imagine charging that point blank for free

Exactly

That’s one way you’d skip dog

[reef zodiac]

But at high heat, you’re very rarely gonna skip cerb, at least not without a ton of skill (way more than I have at least)

[signal aspen]

dog skip isnt skill tbh its just a bunch of damage

[lone kernel]

Or shield I frames

[strong ridge]

every day is cerb day

[lone kernel]

Bunch of damage though, requires some skill

Knowing how to macro

Make a build that can hit that hard

[signal aspen]

big damage means good rng

[lone kernel]

also knowing what to take but

[signal aspen]

yeah true

[lone kernel]

undercut your own skill all ya want but knowing general ways a build can develop is a skill IMO

[strong ridge]

when ri and ap combine

[reef zodiac]

Well yes, but dealing constant damage to EM4 is very hard in my experience

[high island]

It's just one of his attacks from phase 2 part 2 on.

[mint coral]

Preeetty sure her call doesnt open up DDs

[high island]

It doesn't, no.

[rotund galleon]

so I learned you can Looney tunes yourself to death

with a rake

[modern hull]

Can you put both of the achilles and aphrodite poster on the wall in zags room? I dont know which one to get

[rotund galleon]

both

[modern hull]

Thats great

[high island]

Get Lady Aphrodite's wall-scroll.

[modern hull]

If i couldnt put both then i would get hers for sure

[rotund galleon]

get all posters

[hushed lotus]

@lone kernel Bottom right. Half of that little corner is generally safe. Plenty of time to get there

[lone kernel]

ah word

[hushed lotus]

I found it by accident and was like....... how did no one ever mention this

[raw herald]

I saw Haelian do it

[high island]

One of those things that's so well-known that no one talks about it anymore and then it becomes obscure again for newer players.

[rotund galleon]

time to try EM4

[polar quail]

good luck

[rotund galleon]

do you think I Should go with Arhtur or Enkidu claws?

[strong ridge]

machine gun

bow

[rotund galleon]

gun isn't my best weapon

[strong ridge]

melee is a lot tougher on em4 if u goin blind but if u must melee probably nemesis ME build

[rotund galleon]

hmm

I'll try it with sword once

[strong ridge]

i will b real w u u probably aint walkin out of em4 anyway so do w/e probably

[rotund galleon]

I understood nothing from that sentence

[strong ridge]

em4 hard probably wont matter what u bring death is likely

[lone kernel]

Yeah whatever you’re best at use that and don’t be surprised if you lose

It’s hard af

[rotund galleon]

picking Ares is always a pain

[polar quail]

not always

when u need him hes useful

[rotund galleon]

but Ares call is invul

[polar quail]

moreso than demeter

[rotund galleon]

I can cheese that

[polar quail]

then dont take the call.

[rotund galleon]

what? cheese is good

[polar quail]

oh i thought u said awful

sorry I read it wrong

[rotund galleon]

lul

[polar quail]

never used ares' call

people call it bad

so I assumed thats what you were doing at first

[rotund galleon]

I'm going to try to use it on Hades

to dodge

zeus did not appear in Tartars

[scarlet ice]

does purging a legendary boon for underworld customs count for the achievement?

[rotund galleon]

AAAHHH nearly gave Thanatos 0 kills

so close

[scarlet ice]

nvm looks like its at the same spot so probably yes?

[strong ridge]

all calls provide brief invuln on activation

f

[rotund galleon]

ok ok sorry bot

I'll be pg13

[rotund galleon]

I feel like you are messing with me

[strong ridge]

no

but its like half a sec

[rotund galleon]

not about that

[strong ridge]

enough 4 1 smack

[proud pilot]

omg im so bad with zeus shield.. Its hard to control the shield all over the room

[polar quail]

zeus shield is fun

[proud pilot]

yes its fun but hard to play

[strong ridge]

what then

[polar quail]

you can bull rush while its zooming around the room

[rotund galleon]

I picked Ares shield for the invul during the call

[polar quail]

its not really hard to me

and you can call the special back to come towards you by pressing x or whatever your button mapped for it is

[strong ridge]

is a chaos zeus shield crossover too much to ask for

[proud pilot]

yeah i know that, i just have to play it more to get better with it ^^

[polar quail]

ill probably do zeus shield for my 3rd 32 heat run after achilles

I haven't used it in a while

then after that, zeus demeter fists (since I have lots of practice with that already), and for the bow, rama. whats the easiest 32 heat for the sword? nemesis? I hate the sword

[proud pilot]

i did it with nemesis personaly

my fav sword

[strong ridge]

nem me/heart rend
pos exit wounds/hunting blade
arthur aprho

[mint coral]

I did poseidon sword

[proud pilot]

bow i tried rama a lot but finaly i won the run with chiron ^^

[polar quail]

i have played with poseidon sword before and thats my only clear with the sword. I did a seastorm build. it was my tenth clear

[calm zenith]

You dont need to kite Zeus shield

That's harder

Just toss it out and return it

[polar quail]

wait it wasnt my tenth win..but it was one of my first ten wins

yeah

i absolutely clowned hades

[calm zenith]

Return it when it's no longer damaging enemies, ideally so it passes through enemies again

[proud pilot]

okay

[calm zenith]

Kiting is super slow too

It's just funny

[proud pilot]

yeah

^^

[strong ridge]

if u throw the shield behind u then charge towards enedmies and return it it works good

[polar quail]

i have like no titans blood in the sword aspects.

[calm zenith]

Yeah that works well

And just get Zeus special for now

[polar quail]

just 5 in zag since I figured may as well since I'm going to max them all out eventually, and however many in poseidon to get 1 level

[calm zenith]

Poseidon doesnt need a bunch of lvls really

[polar quail]

since I'm eventually going to do 32 heat with every single weapon aspect, it'll be interesting seeing if zag sword turns out to be the hardest one.

[polar quail]

nice. ill do that one then.

[calm zenith]

It gets better for one shotting enemies with cast which is what you want but it still does the main effect of removing casts from enemies

Which still helps a lot for dps vs bosses

[strong ridge]

depends how u want pos to work but for exit wound lvl dont matter that much

[sour isle]

im think of trying a shotgun build for the rail

how good is it?

[rich gulch]

What I've really enjoyed is using the rail special with the hammer that makes it Big and Red ™️ Love making it overpowered.

[indigo mountain]

personally for me, the shotgun rail was too close for my liking for that type of weapon

it did hit hard though

[reef zodiac]

Spread Fire Zag Rail with deadly strike, Hunter dash, and Hunter’s mark is very strong

[carmine parcel]

So um now that Cuphead has a show

Can we perhaps... 👉👈

[devout terrace]

[slim geyser]

i want to do the ultimate aphrodite build

all of the aphrodite

[polar quail]

didnt haelian do all aphrodite boons run

[gray apex]

I did one a while ago

[kind cairn]

hey im new here, real quick question, anyone know if theres any chance of Hades 2?

[gray apex]

but it was totally a coincidence lol

[high island]

Anyone who knows wouldn't be allowed to answer that, and anyone who doesn't know wouldn't be able to answer it.

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/898298811326271508/Hades_4jZgFW64QJ.png

[kind cairn]

thanks anyway!

[slim geyser]

did he?

but yeah i just want
all the aphrodite and hopefully her legend
maybe some aphro duos too

[past gate]

I could see Smair being fun

[polar quail]

a true all aphrodite build wouldnt have hermes, or chaos. aphrodite is the only goddess u need.

[past gate]

Combined with the legendary

Charm spam

[slim geyser]

charm spam is super fun

[polar quail]

duos would need another god, meaning its no longer just an aphrodite build

[slim geyser]

i need zeus purely to spam charm and ill try and replace him with aphro afterwards

[polar quail]

its more like a mostly aphrodite build

[past gate]

It doesn't have to be an only aphro build, just a build with an absurd amount of aphro boons

[slim geyser]

yes

[polar quail]

ah ok

[past gate]

You can't get so many aphro boons without getting duos involved, can you?

[slim geyser]

i said the ultimate aphrodite build not the only aphrodite build
but tbh only one god sounds fun

[polar quail]

i think each god has like 12

[past gate]

Each god has one duo for every other god

[slim geyser]

all dio when

[past gate]

So since there isn't a duo with itself, 9 duos each?

[polar quail]

purely drunk build

theres no hermes duos

[past gate]

True

8

[polar quail]

theres 8

[slim geyser]

i did a great dio build a while ago on the prophecy grind trying to get his legend

but i wouldnt mind doing an all dio

[polar quail]

all dio and all zeus sounds fun

[slim geyser]

all zeus sounds p easy tbh

[polar quail]

and artemis if you're doing a weapon aspect with crits

[slim geyser]

but yeah for the ultimate aphro id want to try and get as much aphro as possible and a few duos (then purge/replace the other gods)

all arty nemesis?

[polar quail]

precisely. zeus is my favorite god because he doesnt feel useless anytime soon. theres never a time I see him and prefer to get some other different god instead

[slim geyser]

yeah

dios legend is annoying because it never shows up

[polar quail]

zeus is good with the rail, the fists, often on special, has one of the best effects with jolted, has the best call in the game, is often a good option on special, even the dash and cast are ok if you have nothing better.

[slim geyser]

what weapon should i do ultimate aphrodite on? no hera or beo because i dont want it to be just crush shot focused

[polar quail]

uhhhhhhh

[high island]

Chiron is her favorite weapon aspect.

[slim geyser]

bet

im kind of terrible with bow but ill try

[high island]

Never too late to practice.

[slim geyser]

good point

[polar quail]

and then zeus also has 1 of the only 2 good vengeance boons, has 2 great call related boons, and splitting bolt.

zeus is s tier

[strong ridge]

personally i find most of the vengenance boons p good

[slim geyser]

besides aphro if i had to take it id want zeus for smair

[hushed lotus]

@gray apex @twin thistle okay fine lmao https://i.imgur.com/J3JWQGL.png yeah

[polar quail]

out of what i used, I find holy shield pretty lame

ares and zeus are fine .

[high island]

Lady Aphrodite also loves Smair and gets it almost every run.

[raw herald]

Holy shield is very useful

[polar quail]

then theres wave of despair which is also lame, and frozen touch..meh

[slim geyser]

damn i wont be able to have the aphro theme on my aphro run because i spent all my ambrosia on sonorous :(

[high island]

....

[polar quail]

wait dio doesnt have a vengence boon?

[slim geyser]

uh i think so

[devout terrace]

He doesn't

[polar quail]

bruh

[slim geyser]

he should

[devout terrace]

Name it then

[slim geyser]

uhh

[high island]

https://i.imgur.com/W5NAKRF.jpg

[slim geyser]

but sonorous is so gorgeous :(((

[polar quail]

"poisonous vengeance", every time you take damage someone gets poisoned

[slim geyser]

okay ill grind the ambrosia lmao sorry epilogue aphrodite waits for no one

[polar quail]

soronous IS gorgeous

[high island]

His status curse isn't poison.

[devout terrace]

It was at some point

[polar quail]

ik its drunk but it feels like poison

[high island]

Good.

[polar quail]

drunken vengeance

there

[high island]

It was, yes.

[devout terrace]

Drunken dash was called nasty dash at some point and I can't get over that

[slim geyser]

LMAO

[devout terrace]

Also titan toppler was divine dash

[polar quail]

NASTY DASH????

[strong ridge]

drunken nasty

[devout terrace]

Aphrodite aid was charm of the lovely goddess

"war god's thirst" really spoiling his questline with nyx

[slim geyser]

maybe ill do Achilles for aphro if chiron doesnt work out

[high island]

Heartbreak Flourish start and get Unhealthy Fixation on Chiron.

[slim geyser]

aphro legend reqs are sweet surrender, empty inside, and broken resolve right?

[void vigil]

titan toppler also had a slight delay before actually letting you dash

when it was removed, naturally divine dash became one of the best dashes in the game despite the low damage

[slim geyser]

oh wow

if i do an all one god i might switch to fatef authority

[polar quail]

after I reach my 32 heat with all aspects goal I'm going to do all zeus boons run

[raw herald]

hmm

from high heat strats

[high island]

Curse of Longing is perfectly perfect in every way.

[signal aspen]

no 🙂

[proud pilot]

omg 2 more hits and i cleared 32 heats with rama xd

damn dad 😄

[indigo mountain]

woo, got my 4th(or fifth) victory today!

got some absolutely hilarious boons, though I'm not sure if they were the best combo

[slim geyser]

hell yeah!! what did you get?

[slim geyser]

i still haven’t cleared 32 actually, but tbf i havent been trying much

[indigo mountain]

are we allowed to post screenshots about the game here?

makes it easier than to tell it if necessary

[slim geyser]

yeah but you need an image link so post it on imgur or a private discord then copy that link

[indigo mountain]

https://imgur.com/a/rSKFXJs

ah, there we go

I managed to get the duo boon from artemis and demeter, its super fun

[slim geyser]

woah i didnt realize fully loaded actually existed
crystal clarity is really fun, yeah

[indigo mountain]

I didn't know either till today

so that makes two of us 🤣

[lyric spade]

Does anyone know how I can extract the exclamation mark you see when a character is surprised? I want to use it for one of my servers.

[slim geyser]

oh i was joking because it’s just

quite rare

[indigo mountain]

wait, is it?

[slim geyser]

apparently

[indigo mountain]

well, pretty pog then

[slim geyser]

i think ive had it like twice and neither on cast builds

[indigo mountain]

so yeah, when I had to do the dad fight I just plonked all 5 on the ground and they did most of the annoying work for me

shielders are about the most annoying unit for me to face

[past gate]

I tried to do an EM4 run with a full Demeter cast build, and I actually got almost everything I needed, the Cast, Icy Glare for the Chill DoT and Arctic Blast to add even more damage
And the artemis duo just never showed up, which is half the reason you even use this cast
I got the Legendary boon from Demeter too, which I never got to use since it was in the final Satyr tunnel and I failed to beat Hades
Fun

[indigo mountain]

unfortunate

[lone kernel]

Did you have gods legacy on

[past gate]

Yes

[lone kernel]

Unbased

Run it back

It happens

Avoid aphro, cold embrace is kinda booty and hurts your odds

[rotund galleon]

soooo which bow or gun aspect works best against EM4

I made a horrible mistake with the sword

[high island]

....

[rotund galleon]

I accidently forgot heightened securty on

[high island]

https://i.imgur.com/W5NAKRF.jpg

[rotund galleon]

she does have an amazing nose

[lone kernel]

i've long since stopped caring about tiptoeing around nyaanyaa

it hurts odds of crystal clarity

its not a personal insult to you

but also not gonna retract that true statement 🙂

[rotund galleon]

I'll always appreciate a good Asterix reference

[high island]

Cold Embrace is perfectly fine.

[past gate]

Technically literally every other god boon I take that isn't demeter and arty and hermes does that so

[lone kernel]

true, but splash dash into mirage is way more synergistic

so many things have to go right to get meme beam to work anyway

[past gate]

Ah, yeah

[rotund galleon]

you know what I'm just gonna grab Gilgamesh

[past gate]

Though I don't want to route in two duos lmfao

The duo-less actually did pretty well, I just need to get better at dodging dad

[lone kernel]

also if you just rep the fight out youll get better

[past gate]

And with Crystal Clarity it would probably shred pretty nicely

[lone kernel]

em4 hard

theres no shame in losing it

[high island]

Opening up Cold Embrace gives you better chances at getting a strong Crystal Beam run.

[rotund galleon]

I realized his cast time for the fire beam is shorter at EM4

[past gate]

Getting sniped by a spear throw from half the map away after getting boiling blood which I couldn't see because the dark effect and taking 100 damage instantly sure is pog

[rotund galleon]

hmmm, I never realized Maim made you take more damage

[past gate]

Tbh I'm surprised at how little the third phase changes things, the big problem is just the global changes that he gets

[lone kernel]

yeah, like pretty much all my em4 wins are via smair cheese or that one time i used GY spin attack on three doomstones

[past gate]

Guan Yu spin attack on 3 doomstones?

What does that mean

Oh wait, hp regen

[mint coral]

Gy spin heals doomstones generates small enemies on hit

[past gate]

Oh, so Middle Management adds extra elites to pha 1 summons?

[rotund galleon]

what are my odds of getting myself nuked after Maiming Hades?

[past gate]

High heat's gotta be real hard wth

[mint coral]

Em4 just summons mid bosses instead of elites

[rotund galleon]

EM4

[past gate]

Yeah, I know

So it can benefit from Middle Management now

Sick

[lone kernel]

yes

[mint coral]

More like 1 doomstone at 66% ho and then 2 more at 33%

[past gate]

Can the dire soul catcher appear there?

[rotund galleon]

that much eh

[lone kernel]

sometimes three of em can

[mint coral]

MM doesnt affect the em4 adds

[rotund galleon]

ok gimme a recommendation, which weapon do I go for now

[lone kernel]

zeus shield

[rotund galleon]

no

never

[past gate]

Can they spawn Exalted?

[mint coral]

Bestia

[rotund galleon]

Zeus shield reminds me of the time I got hit in the face with a frisbee

[past gate]

If they could they wouldn't have any weapons to regen off of tho so I wouldn't see the point

[mint coral]

Exalted arent mid bosses

[past gate]

No, I mean

Can the Soul Catchers spawn Exalted

[lone kernel]

smack yourself in the face with a frisbee, realize it no longer has power over you, and then zeus shield

lando life coach

[gray apex]

no

[past gate]

Like they do in the normal encounter

[lone kernel]

yeehaw

[mint coral]

Nah

[past gate]

Nice

[lone kernel]

ohh no just lots of butterflies

[mint coral]

Is just an hp sponge with a lot of small stun projectiles

[gray apex]

That would be way too unbalanced

[mint coral]

That also can darkness and move away

[gray apex]

We already have enough to deal with

[rotund galleon]

hestia is just "only shoot once after reload" right?

[lone kernel]

wait the dire soulcatcher summons exalted?

[gray apex]

Yea

[past gate]

Why on earth can the minibosses tp in Hades fight, that's really weird

[lone kernel]

just kill it fast ez

[gray apex]

You should also use your Special and maybe dash tho

[mint coral]

You say that but B.ball sometimes summons exalted like on frame 1

[lone kernel]

the plot says EM4 is how hades was when he battled the titans, its like frieza's final form type situation

[gray apex]

And reload cancel

[high island]

Maybe that was fate and you know understand the dangers of a frisbee better than anyone and can make full use of it when playing Zeus Aspect.

Find good luck in misfortune.

[rotund galleon]

no

[past gate]

Prophecy Foretold: The Underworld Prince shall someday overcome his crippling fear of frisbees

[rotund galleon]

also I don't like how it looks

but I'll just abuse Chaos shield thanks for remind me

[signal aspen]

Chaos

[past gate]

It shall happen when the Fates decide

[rotund galleon]

I kind of feel using the shield is too cheap

[slim geyser]

does charm and weak work for privileged status or just weak and smth else

[past gate]

Probably would, right?

[signal aspen]

Charm isn't a status curse

[past gate]

It's not?

[signal aspen]

No

[past gate]

Oh it's like, a temporary ally

Hrm

[slim geyser]

f

[past gate]

Punishing Sweep isn't a status curse either, right?

Are any debuffs from weapons or hammers considered status curses?

[signal aspen]

No

[past gate]

Too bad

[signal aspen]

But hunters mark is

[high island]

There's a pin in #h1-for-new-players that has all the status curses listed.

Well, it links to a list anyway.

[slim geyser]

oh cool

[high island]

Not counting Lord Hermes and Master Chaos, every god has one status curse.

4 are tier 1 boons, 4 are tier 2 boons.

The 4 that are tier 2 boons have a 50% of being offered when you have the prerequisites.

[rich gulch]

She sure does.

[calm zenith]

Charm is like a status imo. Like stunned.

It doesnt do something to an enemy as much as it changes its behavior

[high island]

It's a status effect. It's not a status curse.

[oblique ember]

just been one track pom hunting for curse of agony levels on the shield this run lol

think this would be a good run if I stuck with zag shield instead of zeus though

[lost storm]

does having rare crop count as a no boon run?

i thoguht i could purge it

[signal aspen]

yeah

[lost storm]

oml thank god

[polar quail]

rare crop constantly hits no boon

More like bare crop am I right ha ha ha

[lost storm]

no boon run isnt as bad as i expected

[polar quail]

How easy would you say it is

[lost storm]

easier than a 16 heat run

but it was a 0 heat run so

[twin thistle]

its pretty easy with aspects like hestia

[lost storm]

i think any other aspect would be a pain

[oblique ember]

using the rail's been a learning experience

the reloading's pretty hard to work around without using special

[twin thistle]

eh. zag bow, rama, zag/zeus/beo, nemesis do boonless pretty well

[oblique ember]

first time wasting a defiance on the furies in a while

cool weapon tho I love dashing while being able to shoot

[lost storm]

railgun is rlly fun to use yes

also i just realised how much harder forced overtime 1 is compared to fo0

[iron oyster]

Oh I actually beat him, but that was because of stupid rng that gave me just what i needed

I didn’t even max out my mirror yet, I didn’t have persuasion or the thing that gives you epics

I was around on run 50 when I finally committed patricide

[manic bobcat]

If you think about it, no one dies in the Underworld.

[orchid tendon]

they just respawn

[runic parrot]

this proves everyone in there is a gamer

[scarlet ice]

are the certain prequisites for some of the benefits package affixes to appear? having trouble getting all of them for the achievement

[twin thistle]

well some only appear for certain enemies

just have bp2 on then its just rng

[scarlet ice]

hmm okay thanks!

[south hedge]

Wow, the final form of the bow is worse than the base bow XD

[devout terrace]

[twin thistle]

slight cap

[slim geyser]

did you just insult our lord and savior rama

[devout terrace]

Rama mia

[manic bobcat]

Bow has a final form?

[peak orbit]

random question

What does Blizzard shot and Curse of Drowning do to Poseidon Cast if it's specifically used on Beowulf Shield

[high island]

Blizzard Shot: absolutely nothing because you can't get it.

[peak orbit]

Hidden aspect.