not worth it though
#h1-discussion
proud pilot
oh ok
twin thistle
rush delivery much better
proud pilot
ah yeah its a hermes legendary ^^
twin thistle
alternatively you can do stygian soul with trippy flare but youre extremely reliant on extra cast stones from wells/chaos/fully loaded
proud pilot
yeah i think when you are good with managing your casts, you don't need things like that
yeah
proud pilot
i had no chaos on my run too.. when i say you it was a unlucky run im not lying XD
i did the run in 20min tho
ah and another thing, my beo was only lvl 3
i now upgraded it to lvl 5 cause i will use it again for sure
not my favourit aspect, but yeah, pretty fun for a first try with it
proud pilot
ok so if it's the night of "first time run", now let's go for Guan Yu run (never used it either ^^)
What could i go for?
I will do it in same conditions, TD2, EM3 and FO1
twin thistle
seastorm speen 
chrome wharf
spin when the enemies are spawning, or are far enough from you
mint coral
#h1-discussion message
And Nyaanyaa guide for GY
chrome wharf
and don't go in too close, you'll have enough damage with a decent special
proud pilot
chain skewer its that ? "Your Special bounces to up to 7 foes, dealing +30% damage for each." (yeah have to look on the wiki at the same time cause i have my game in french ^^)
twin thistle
chrome wharf
yes GY has recovery but still better to avoid getting hit altogether
yeah that's chain skewer
proud pilot
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/520429929721233464/8352763158379...
Ah nice will have a look at that
ok
mint coral
Gy cant get chain iirc
twin thistle
twin thistle
chain pretty bad
mint coral
Imagine chain achilles
twin thistle
dash strike 2x -> special
mint coral
Charged is hold to increase dmg up to 200% and min range reduced
Also gy special has more AoE than it looks lol
proud pilot
if i want a build focused on the special (throwing the spear), what hammer i try to get then?
chrome wharf
I thought that chain was good
then I took it
never again
proud pilot
Hold Special to charge your skewer for up to +200% base damage. Minimum range reduced*.
chrome wharf
ye
proud pilot
ok thats charged
chrome wharf
like bow
proud pilot
Your Special is replaced with a shot that deals 50 damage in an area.
thats exploding
mint coral
Gy has exploding built in basically
proud pilot
their was a missing word in one of the last dialogue (when you reunite the familly)
but i forgot to screenshot to send it to the support...
:/
but everything else is good. Their is no french voice but i prefer having the english voices, they are so cool
ok i noted for the hammers for Guan Yu, and about the boons? what do you recommend ?
mint coral
Aphro for safety
Artemis for scaling through Chaos
twin thistle
big attack/special damage from arty/aphro or do merciful end
mint coral
With aphro can also dip into Smoldering air
twin thistle
or seastorm spin build
proud pilot
yeah was thinking of a merciful end, i love that kind of build :p
i would prefer a build where i can use Privileged Status
mint coral
I wanna try spin build GY but cant change first hammer in switch lol and lazy to unninstall mods
chrome wharf
Guan ME is a thing
twin thistle
ares first
mint coral
poms good so ares
twin thistle
so you can pom him up
proud pilot
yeah you're right 🙂
i also know i will try to get a lot of centaur too
because 50hp... scary
chrome wharf
ares attack, athena special, charged skewer
proud pilot
i will try to get 200 for dad, thats maybe too much i dont know
yeah that would be perfect
mint coral
can never have too much health in GY
proud pilot
^^
twin thistle
acorn value stonks
mint coral
why did i write help
proud pilot
i will tell you something, i never used acorn 😦 i know i should because it seems very good
chrome wharf
it's great once you get comf with regular rooms
proud pilot
question about acorn, do the minions the boss spawn impact your 5 "free hits" ? i mean, if a minion hit you do you loose 1 hit on your acorn? or its only if its a boss hit
proud pilot
yeah to what? only if its a boss hit?
twin thistle
do the minions impacts the hits
proud pilot
ok ^^
damn i tought it was only the boss hits, would have been better :p
but yeah i understand its a good keepsake when you are good at dodging and you dont get hit a lot. If you are good enough with that thing its possible to get a 0 damage boss fight i suppose
twin thistle
well even if you get hit a lot, if theyre 5 deleted spins thats 200 dmg
proud pilot
yeah ^^ can save 1 life
fathom mango
minotaur ruins elysium
U rly hate Elysium
polar quail
Certified elysium hater
slim geyser
nah asterius is fun
tight cosmos
the spear guy is ok
but minotaur is so annoying
and all the enemies have an unreasonable amt of hp
polar quail
Asterius is a bro
Theseus is a loser
Asterius is pretty aggressive though, so I can understand finding that annoying to deal with
proud pilot
Back from my Guan Yu run ! (same conditions as Beo, TD2, EM3, FO1)
I Finished it in 20min~ so same as beo. I died only once during dad fight :O.
I had 180hp at the end
and guys, i think i never dodged so well
seriously
that run was a nice dodge training
sadly i wasnt very lucky with boons again 😦 i never saw ME
but i got charged skewer and wow, with that thing i was destroying things 😄
So yeah, very cool weapon. The reduced life made me focus on ennemies more than usual and that was very good for my "global skill" i suppose
If i had ME that would have been better but i had other good epics boons so i had decent damages 🙂
polar quail
Nice job
proud pilot
those 2 first runs with beo and guan yu made me finish the 2 prophecy in the same time ^^ (where you have to go to dad with them)
hehe thanks
polar quail
Seems you’re progressing very fast
proud pilot
i was very scared to start with 50 life
mint coral
charged skewer helps a lot even with no ME gladly
proud pilot
so i was very focus on my dodges ^^
yeah
tomorrow i have the bow and the rail to do (i mean the hidden aspects) in the same conditions (never tried them either)
but first i will have to farm a little cause they are not maxed yet
polar quail
I haven’t unlocked Beowulf yet but I will soon. I really want to play it
proud pilot
yeah its very fun
mint coral
Rama bow my beloved
polar quail
I have Rama. It’s cool
proud pilot
i was very bad with it (going back to the casts on the ground was a pain for me xD) but with training it can be insanely strong
Rama seems fun yeah
polar quail
I want to try Arthur as well but that involves not ignoring the sword
proud pilot
Arthur is cool. Not my fav hiden aspect but still cool
it makes good dmgs but the attack is slow 😦
but the sword and the aura are rly bad ass and just because of that they are fun to play ahah
ok i think i wont do more runs for tonight, its almost 4am here in France ^^. Happy to finish the day with those 2 fun runs tho
polar quail
ok i think i wont do more runs for tonight, its almost 4am here in France ^^. Ha...
Go to sleep
proud pilot
Yeah that's what i'll do ^^
Have a good day/night guys! see ya tomorrow !
GL for your runs !
polar quail
Goodnight
proud pilot
ty 😉
tight cosmos
the gun is so good
sullen marsh
I've been trying to get Curse of Drowning for 3 days now.
Only I've been using Hera bow.
And NOW they tell me I cant get it with Hera.
fine, beowulf will have a chat with you shades.
vital sparrow
if i get for expample some keys in a run if i press give up will i keep those keys
polar quail
No
vital sparrow
ok thanks
proud pilot
damn i can't sleep
i'm watching Haelian videos with Rama bow to prepare myself for tomorrow xD
vital sparrow
lol
proud pilot
i remember when i started playing i didnt like the bow
but in fact its very fun and very strong
vital sparrow
whats ur fav aspect?
proud pilot
for the bow?
or for all weapons?
with the bow i still didnt try rama but i had some very good runs with chiron bow
and for the rest of the weapons, my fav is gilgamesh fists
insanely strong and fun to play
vital sparrow
ok
proud pilot
i need training with it because enemies hits harder when you put the "Maim" effect on them
chrome wharf
I called rama the aspect of pulling teeth before I got better at it
proud pilot
lol ^^
mint coral
i sometimes call rama reverse chiron
mint coral
i need training with it because enemies hits harder when you put the "Maim" effe...
honestly most of the time the answer is never
25% dmg isnt enough for giving your enemies 2.5 lvls of hard labor
proud pilot
but the weapon i like the less, its the rail. Even if i had a crazy fun run this afternoon with a zeus build with Eris rail, i don't know, i don't like having to reload 😦
^^
I love "Delta chamber" hammer on the rail
chrome wharf
I didn't like reload until hestia
proud pilot
because you don't have to reload anymore with that 😄
mint coral
oh just noticed 8 bit drummer played the unseen ones in stream
chrome wharf
since you have to reload once every attack instead of some time interval
runic parrot
thats why you get tidal dash so you can still damage while reloading
mint coral
love it
golden island
I was so close
proud pilot
oh just noticed 8 bit drummer played the unseen ones in stream
Can you link plz?
golden island
He was on his last stage
golden island
I had the Demeter n Athena duo
proud pilot
since you have to reload once every attack instead of some time interval
thats probably hard to do but its very powerfull i saw on videos
thanks @mint coral 🙂
chrome wharf
I find it much easier than regular rail
since I can just link shooting + reloading as one action, rather than having to check how much ammo I have
proud pilot
ah yeah i see what you mean
not related but i was thinking to something this afternoon
that would have been cool to be able to change the clothes of zag
skins etc..
i mean he has a room, he could have different outfits
proud pilot
damn im the only one who want that? 🙃 😂
chrome wharf
Lol many wanted that, just that we've had the cycle of someone asking and people explaining why it would be hard for a few times now
proud pilot
ah ok didn't know it was something already asked many times
but np, was just a detail, don't need that to have fun on the game 🙂
feral belfry
Rama pog
floral yacht
hello, is there a way to guarantee patroclus room to spawn every run? having a hard time activating his quest
calm zenith
You can use maim at 0 heat fine
I think it's for dash boons
If you are doing empty dashes, you avoid a lot more damage
Especially stuff like sea storm tidal
Because the dash boon and jolted/rupture should get boosted
The other t2s like wave/burst should get boosted too
Like if you feel confident at your heat level
I dont think Gilgamesh will make you lose
If you are just having fun or farming darkness at 0 heat, its fine
runic parrot
hello, is there a way to guarantee patroclus room to spawn every run? having a h...
pretty sure there's not, but don't quote me on that
spice hearth
there isn't. just keep reaching elysium and you'll be fine
vital sparrow
ngl idk anything about it but stuborn defiance seems really op
crude surge
It’s good if your dying to normal rooms
If your dying to bosses death defies are better
vital sparrow
i die rarely in normal rooms and in boss fights
so idk
i dont think i will
but evetually
i might try it
high island
Stubborn Defiance is mainly used in high heat with LC4.
high island
It only heals for 30% (or 33) of your hp
30%.
kindred silo
Thanks :)
slim geyser
stubborn is good for beginners and high heats
but death is better overall imo, as you can die multiple times during boss fights
and Patroclus can regen it which is helpful
high island
Whenever I've coached new players on stream who were using SD, they did better after switching to DDs.
brittle canyon
Why do the fists even have a daedulus hammer boom to have the dash strike deal 900% damage to armour
It's so overpowered
chrome wharf
to make them cool
fast willow
It's so overpowered
well its not even as strong as stuff like double edge, twin shot, charged shot etc so its fine
brittle canyon
I guess so
twin thistle
It was nerfed fron 1000 at some point<:bouldy:523329116934635534>
such a huge nerf
frosty junco
Hi, everybody. :0
Does anyone know, if Apollo will be added (or has been added) as character you can speak with?
gray apex
He’s not gonna be added because the game is done getting updates as far as we know
devout terrace
<:bouldy:523329116934635534> such a huge nerf <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
In line with talos's GAME CHANGING BUFF from 40% to 50%
gray apex
thorn gust
there is no difference between stubborn defiance or death defiance if you never die in the first place
gray apex
Real gamer
fast willow
In line with talos's GAME CHANGING BUFF from 40% to 50%
well it went from 4th highest castspect damage to tied for 3rd so thats a pretty huge improvement
devout terrace
gray apex
Idk about tied for third
fast willow
Idk about tied for third <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
- Achilles 150%
- Eris 75%
- Poseidon, Talos 50%
runic parrot
poseidon is always on though
fast willow
the numbers dont lie
runic parrot
poseidon sword continues to take w's
gray apex
If it’s just numbers then I guess yea
fast willow
clearly talos is a better castspect than hera and beo since it has a bigger number
gray apex
high island
I think they did a great job with Talos. It's one of the most fun aspects in the game.
spice hearth
the range on the special always surprises me
gray apex
I’ve never used Talos
spice hearth
i wish it had a bigger AOE though, it's annoying to have to tag multiple enemies one at a time
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/934746515824578560/3b5...
This emote should be banned
mint coral
Is a gif 
gray apex
It’s perfect
fast willow
little iris
What is the most efficient way to get nectar?
gray apex
Start Dio keepsake and roll twice for Premium vintage
mint coral
trade gems/keys at the lounge ig
little iris
Ok
But that would cost 50 gems for 1 nectar
And that would mean I need to get to Asphodel then die so it can be a speed nectar Run
brittle canyon
there is no difference between stubborn defiance or death defiance if you never ...
Facts
feral belfry
Easiest way is to just play
lone kernel
stubborn is good for beginners and high heats
but death is better overall imo, a...
Yeah, I used stubborn while trying to get through asphodel initially but by elysium I realized DD was the move
brittle canyon
Oh yes, definitely
polar quail
Checked the hades subreddit and someone’s seriously using ap2 at 32 heat
strong ridge
maybe hestia gaming
feral belfry
Now that's gaming
umbral thorn
So, like, why is Zagreus as trans a surprisingly popular headcanon? Because as someone who's nb, I... don't see it personally 🤔
tacit nimbus
Most of the Greek pantheon knows no romance limits, yeah.
Zeus... has no standards.
devout terrace
isnt that the definition of pan
icy knoll
i got to the epilogue
was pretty disappointing that there wasn't a final boss but it was a nice ending
tacit nimbus
I was shocked when there was no Hades fight that run.
icy knoll
tbh i thought they'd drop the three-phase one from the pact of punishment on me
gray apex
Well if you need a harder challenge there is a pretty easy way to do that
icy knoll
proud pilot
hi all o/
tacit nimbus
\o
polar quail
I love demeter fists it’s so fun
tacit nimbus
This game has such extremely specific quotes, even to the point of Zagreus declaring payback for killing whatever killed you last run.
brisk trail
Im done, 32 heat is too much for me
tacit nimbus
Fair enough.
if you still need bounty loot, try removing all heat and speeding your way to the styx shop.
oak ibex
So, like, why is Zagreus as trans a surprisingly popular headcanon? Because as s...
As someone who is transmasc, I personally see where that headcanon is coming from. Smol dude is the biggest part, but there's also other vibes that I can't put into words rn lol
Also, I have accidentally unleashed my inner Hermes/Zagreus by drinking coffee and I am speed
brisk trail
if you still need bounty loot, try removing all heat and speeding your way to th...
Im trying to unlock Skelly s third prize
tacit nimbus
Ah.
that's gonna be harsh.
max out whatever aspect your using can help.
but you sure took a brutal goal.
lone kernel
Im done, 32 heat is too much *for me*
see ya in high heat thread in a week or two 
polar quail
What’s Dionysus and aphrodites favor
hearty mural
Aphro is have relationships (Al 3 or 2 I forget check wiki) and dio is give a bunch of people ambrosia I think it’s around 10 total
polar quail
Oh and Hermes
mint coral
Talk to him with maxed plume
polar quail
I prefer meg, but yeah, that happens
proud pilot
ahah yeah same, well i think i will have sex with both
proud pilot
after a few bottle of Ambrosia, everything is possible 🙃
That's strange i still didnt have the dialogue to reunite Achilles and Patro, ive max relationship with both (next is a locked heart) and also with Nyx. I ve probably some quest dialogues still going on i suppose
polar quail
Hmm
proud pilot
Orphe and Eurydice are reunited already
polar quail
I just got their companion today. Did you have the option to go to the administrative chamber yet and get the sentence for 5 diamonds?
polar quail
slim geyser
what’s zeus’s favor btw
proud pilot
Zeus' favor involves hearing the other Gods' opinions of him, as well as seeing Zeus express a desire to reconnect with Hades, along with Hades' response.
^ Found on wiki
polar quail
Pat didn’t say anything about risking it all yet?
proud pilot
nope, thats the sentence im waiting :p
polar quail
Yeah you just gotta wait
slim geyser
you can multiple quests at once i think
proud pilot
yeah it will come soon or later
slim geyser
rngjesus just doesn’t feel like it today
proud pilot
yeah things always come after some runs anyway
slim geyser
need to finish nyx/chaos and sisyphus then i think i’d have a majority of them
proud pilot
same i have to do nyx/chaos but damn its expensive
feral belfry
Even in hell you can have fun in fact 🙃
It's not hell, just the underworld!
proud pilot
yeah true ^^
slim geyser
need to finish nyx/chaos and sisyphus then i think i’d have a majority of them
need to grind some gems for sisyphus
orpheus and eurydice are by far my favorite i love those two sm
feral belfry
Here's a fun fact
slim geyser
also soon i’d have maxed out the mirror (just need to finish rated persuasion)
feral belfry
There is a famous opera called orpheus in the underworld
And it's about those twos story
It's also where the can can dance was made
#dailyfacts
proud pilot
^^
polar quail
also soon i’d have maxed out the mirror (just need to finish rated persuasion)
You should’ve maxed out persuasion over authority but it’s fine
Authority is my last one
slim geyser
yeah i probably should’ve ¯_(ツ)_/¯
polar quail
yeah i probably should’ve ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You could swap them by resetting the mirror but it’s up to you
slim geyser
too much work lmao
polar quail
How many rolls do you have
If you’re really close to maxing it out it wouldn’t be worth it anyway I guess
It’s only one key
🤷♀️
high island
@proud pilot remember to keep it clean.
proud pilot
😂
slim geyser
How many rolls do you have
3
ionic quiver
GODDAMMIT I WAS SO CLOSE TO BEATING HADES
polar quail
I love having a basically full build before leaving Tartarus
placid storm
@slim geyser i think it does
seen haelian "fish for luck" sometimes even if FO's decently high
slim geyser
good
i got to get those fish
brisk trail
I love having a basically full build before leaving Tartarus
Imagine not having build leaving Elysium
Like me while ago
cerulean cipher
I keep trying to get Ice Wine and Scintillating Feast at the same time and I can't do it
Lucked out and got both Zeus and Demeter in Tartarus, got Ice Wine pretty early, then used a single roll every time I came across either Zeus or Dio, and it NEVER CAME UP
polar quail
Ughhhh I had such a cool build and he was about to die but he still got me 😞
Smouldering air/vengeful mood/merciful end demeter fists
slim geyser
oh damn
f
high island
seen haelian "fish for luck" sometimes even if FO's decently high
TD is the timer btw.
FO makes enemies faster.
high island
I've probably made the same mistake before.
azure trellis
also freed sisyphus
that was quick
unless by true ending you mean something that happened after credits
lol
im not there yet in that case
slim geyser
wait do orpheus and eurydice still sing good riddance after in the blood
thin thicket
has anybody had the problem where your cursor is gonezo
its acting like its still there but its invisible
placid storm
Any random build ideas? Kind of just want to try something new
proud pilot
@polar quail Its fine i just had the sentence i was waiting for, i will be able to reunite Achilles and Petro soon :). And after that, Meg was waiting me in my room... so.. yeah, zag is having fun these days xD
high island
Any random build ideas? Kind of just want to try something new
Have you tried the Monthly Challenge yet?
placid storm
wuzzat
high island
It's pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat.
proud pilot
And i finaly managed to get 3k darkness to reunite Nyx/Chaos \o/. That was a grind ! ^^
placid storm
I did a crystal beam run not too long ago so maybe not just yet
high island
What a shame it's not 8888 Darkness for that anymore. 
You can also check out the challenges from previous months.
placid storm
oh geez 3000 already put a dent in my builds by denying Fated Persuasion for a hot moment
so 8888 would have just wrecked me
proud pilot
^^
high island
But it was nice to get all that Darkness reimbursed when they reduced the cost.
proud pilot
oh they did that? that's cool
now i need 4k for the last level of Fated Persuasion ^^
high island
Yup!
placid storm
oh actually an aphro call build sounds fun
Seduce your Dad™️
not sure what aspect i'd use for it tho
proud pilot
i just did a gilga run with a build focused on special (took poseidon special)
was fun and strong
high island
If you want to do the challenge, you'll have to use Zeus Aspect.
placid storm
yeah that's what I had in mind anyways, many consecutive hits = 
CALL
twin thistle
or just get smair
placid storm
but @high island a lot of the monthly challenges aren't pinned
high island
The linked spreadsheet has all of them.
placid storm
EM2 isn't giving me much of a challenge. I've heard EM4 is absolute hell, but how's EM3?
twin thistle
em3's more difficult but it mainly comes from forced overtime. same as em4 which isnt that difficult without fo
high island
Best to just try it for yourself.
slim geyser
lowkey not finding forced overtime that bad
itll prob be worse when bosses come around
brisk trail
just for the fight i thought em3 wasnt all bad
theseus spams his spear throw a lot less
but idk how it interacts with other pacts
maiden crown
hi
slim geyser
do you have FO2 on
1
runic parrot
fo1 is manageable
fo2 sucks
wringers attack so fast with fo2 on and i keep walking into them
crude surge
I mean...
don't just walk into em like that
not all of FO2 is reactable for everyone, just have to be aware of what enemies can do before they do it
signal aspen
just dont get hit
runic parrot
lol you think i dont know that
anyway yeah, a good tip for any player is to just learn how to dodge
(i have yet to learn this)
twin thistle
yeah its a lot of predicting attack patterns
polar quail
got a new record time earlier
thorn gust
forced overtime 2 is hilarious when chariots/bull man comes charging at you at mach 3 speeds
twin thistle
speeder chariots
thorn gust
also, when dusa gave me her keepsake, why didn't it destroy all my magic and trap cards?
slim geyser
ive had this in my head for a bit, but why is achillies and pats keepsake just.. an ant
skellys is a skull
dusa is a snake
meg is a bat
but its just. an ant? is there a reason?
polar quail
I guess they like ants
thorn gust
theres some pun or something having to do with the myrmidons
slim geyser
oh wait
okay yeah
polar quail
What aspects are fun to speed run with
slim geyser
mort is a mouse right
polar quail
Yes
twin thistle
eris, beo, hera, achilles, demeter, or nemesis ig for each weapon
polar quail
Demeter is fun
slim geyser
mort is a mouse right
whats the reasoning here
polar quail
I have my fastest run with Demeter
thorn gust
or if you're big funny like me, I've been grinding zag shield for the past few days lmao
once I get my first sub 10 on zag shield, I'll probably try beo
polar quail
I really want to try Beowulf but I haven’t unlocked it yet
thorn gust
beowulf is basically
slim geyser
beowulf fun
thorn gust
"how much do you like nukes?"
slim geyser
once i can play again (i have so much to do tomorrow so no time sadly) i want to try and get sub 15
my fastest was 17 mins with eris and that wasnt meant to be a speedrun
thorn gust
my first sub 15 was when I was messing with zag shield like 4 or 5 days ago and ended up with like seastorm, double strike, and zeus legendary
and I was like "welp guess this is gonna go fast now"
polar quail
Nice
slim geyser
ive only beaten the game 11 times but i dont think the times are terrible
think the latest is 26 mins
twin thistle
seastorm is cool but most of the damage comes from jolted tbh https://imgur.com/Gwa6dBM
polar quail
ive only beaten the game 11 times but i dont think the times are *terrible*
thin...
I’ve beaten 18 times, you’re definitely faster than me on that 17 minute try
slim geyser
tbf i had a *lot *of runs before i started winning
polar quail
only 105,000 more darkness <:dusa:522248771409543188>
It costs HOW much
twin thistle
would be nice if higher heat gave more darkness
signal aspen
It costs HOW much
it costs like 350000 total darkness
slim geyser
- why
2. why
thorn gust
also, I starting fishing for charged shot builds instead after learning about them after a while https://youtu.be/kgxkA4Gaz54
polar quail
yeah but its a cool rank
That’s kinda sick
I guess I’ll speed run with Hera now next
slim geyser
seastorm is cool but most of the damage comes from jolted tbh https://imgur.com/...
so id want to buff up jolted and get all the Zeus boon things (double strike, ect)
polar quail
Don’t think I’ve had a run without either Zeus or Aphrodite
*winning
Wonder what it’s like without them
slim geyser
ive had some great ares ones
hunting blades and me specifcally
had a weird ares/demeter combo which was pretty fun
twin thistle
so id want to buff up jolted and get all the Zeus boon things (double strike, ec...
well if youre doing a zeus focused build
polar quail
hunting blades and me specifcally
Is hunting blades Artemis/ares duo? I’ve never gotten it
slim geyser
yeah
need to get ares legend, demeter legend, infernal soul hermes legend, and a couple more legends for that prophecy i think
vital sparrow
whats the best way to get titan blood ive already killed a fury with all weapons
slim geyser
charon end shop
upgrading heat levels
vital sparrow
ok
polar quail
need to get ares legend, demeter legend, infernal soul hermes legend, and a coup...
I haven’t completed that one either but I don’t really need the gems
vital sparrow
thanks
slim geyser
mostly want it for dusa favor tbh
polar quail
Only decorations are left at this point
slim geyser
and also the house is pretty bare
polar quail
Oh. I have her companion already
slim geyser
need hers and thans
Sisyphus i should get soon, i have skelly, achillies, and meg
polar quail
The ones I want to finish eventually are mirror prophecy and duo prophecy, and the prerequisite for a future quest. Other than that I mostly don’t need the rewards even if I finish them
slim geyser
also while i absolutely miss persephones greece garden i do love the one in the house
polar quail
Oh and maybe Charon twice consecutively, if that wasn’t hard to do. I can get the blood an easier way than that. It should be 10 or 15 titan blood instead of just 5.
Lame reward
I’m not going to go for it intentionally
void vigil
would be nice if higher heat gave more darkness <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
It used to in early early access iirc
polar quail
need hers and thans
Sisyphus i should get soon, i have skelly, achillies, and me...
I have all of them except Skelly because I don’t want to max the Zagreus sword for a companion I’m not even going to use
I’m not going to use the zag sword anyway so it’s not worth it unless I begin to run out of stuff to max out
void vigil
I think skelly might have been the first one I got just because it was so easy
if you plan to get everything fully upgraded in the end, I mean, why not
polar quail
I’ll probably do it eventually
slim geyser
i got skellys because i got a bunch of titan blood for the "beat dad with all weapons" thing
mostly did it for the diamonds and to max my bond with him
polar quail
at this point in the game I have all the story quests that use diamonds done and all the ones that affect in game runs from the contractor, so all I have to use them on is music.
slim geyser
so i’ve seen speedrunners pause the game to make room decisions and such, is that a good strategy? want to minimize my igt (that’s the acronym for in game time right)
proud pilot
of course it is
im using pause every time even tho im not speedrunning the game
its just a way to not "loose" time when thinking the door you'll go etc
slim geyser
oh alr
twin thistle
theres a guide if you want to watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bxwSsTPubI
slim geyser
saw that! thanks though
fossil gyro
do i need to have all keepsakes before unlocking cthonic companions
void vigil
i dont believe so
fossil gyro
oh
void vigil
just need to give enough nectar to the character you want the companion of, and then fulfill a requirement to unlock the next heart, then gift them ambrosia. sometimes that may take a while
fossil gyro
ahhh ok
i have like 11 ambrosia
and i SHOULD get my last keepsake next run
just need persephone
and im one escape from credits
icy knoll
does twin shot give you two shared sufferings for rama
raw herald
Effectively yeah
Shared suffering is a multiplicative increase, twin shot is also effectively multiplicative
chrome wharf
I got sub10 and 32 heat separately on L1 Beo so yes it's quite decent
polar quail
awesome I'll try it out
thorn gust
oh yeah so here's an interesting question
if you had to rate a fresh file run in terms of heat level, what heat level would you guys say is it equivalent to?
raw herald
50-55
Depends if you’re good at sword
I’ve done 54 but haven’t got past Asterius miniboss in FF
thorn gust
no mirror, locked to sword with no titan blood investment, very limited god pool and no hammers
gray apex
I think it's most commonly compared to 50
raw herald
And sword kinda sucks so there’s that too ig
gray apex
But it's hard to compare the two
Fresh File is just a whole bunch of new stuff that you have to relearn and adjust to
signal aspen
yeah FF is like 50+ heat
gray apex
You can beat it with scuffed builds (not ME) and very clean fights given enough practice
thorn gust
thing is, with how limited the god pool is, you're basically really praying for that ME lol
raw herald
Yep
gray apex
Yea
raw herald
The other only build is drunken strike calc risk
Hunting blades is awful
1 cast no bonus damage
raw herald
🙏🙏🙏
polar quail
chaos really doesn't like me
I keep getting every option except one to increase casts
raw herald
Rarity and more coins are ok if you get them early on
devout terrace
if you had to rate a fresh file run in terms of heat level, what heat level woul...
Hmm thats a tough one tbh
They're both really different things that you have to learn for a very long time to master
signal aspen
beowulf is just hera but thiccer
mint coral
And broken
mint coral
The door shield
polar quail
the last hidden aspects I have to unlock are lucifer and arthur
last veldt
Beo with charged shot is thicc Hera.
polar quail
or dying at hades because you didn't have enough time to fight him before tight deadline runs out
signal aspen
i got a couple of extra casts
why does the game always give me a 3 sack on my good runs
all of my casts are gonna run out 
random pewter
Hello, I have a problem
Does anyone know how to fix this?
signal aspen
fix what
random pewter
I can´t to send a photo
twin thistle
link it
signal aspen
ask in #h1-tech-support you can post images in there
twin thistle
either post it in a personal server or imgur and link it
random pewter
I can´t to send a photo
Basically, I'm stuck on where the sources come out and one of them is missing that allows me to change levels
random pewter
ask in <#520430049003044864> you can post images in there
Okey thx
polar quail
my attempts really aren't going well, I keep timing out to tight deadline or barely making it
twin thistle
youre doing 20 right?
polar quail
youre doing 20 right?
Nope, I'm practicing to get faster clear times
gray apex
Have you watched speedrunning basics
polar quail
So I'm doing lower heat with f02, em2, td2
twin thistle
whats your aspect and build?
slim geyser
my attempts really aren't going well, I keep timing out to tight deadline or bar...
real time or igt?
polar quail
Hera, i grabbed divine flourish since I didnt want to reroll a second time. I have crush shot and demeter's aid
twin thistle
tight deadline is igt
polar quail
real time or igt?
in game time
i almost won during one of my attempts but I got 4 sacked and timed out when I only had 1:35 left to beat hades
so I have no idea how fast that run was
slim geyser
styx luck sucks
twin thistle
ig for hera mostly after aphro cast you want snow burst, quickreload or rushdelivery from hermes, chaos cast/cast damage, and make sure to check wells for braids/Prometheus stones
you also want a lot of poms to hit your cast
so id try avoiding pommable boons that dont help a lot like specials
also in case youre not, remember to keep track of how many casts it takes to kill certain enemies so you dont waste shots
proud pilot
Lol i had a weird bug in my last run. You know in Elysium the mobs who can respawn if you dont kill the little "armored head" (sorry have no clue of the names ^^). One mob respawned inside one of pilone lol. Took me 20sec to finaly kill him cause the hitbox to hit him was very, very small ^^
slim geyser
oh strange
also, off-topic, got bored and made this
https://perchance.org/hadesbuild
does anyone have any suggestions on other things to add? (feel free to use it too if you feel like it)
icy knoll
i just got the dusa companion
should i spend all my ambrosia upgrading it or will i need that to give to her more
thorn gust
also, off-topic, got bored and made this
https://perchance.org/hadesbuild
does a...
mirror conditions 😄
slim geyser
do you mean like,, conditions you have to choose on the mirror (like if you have the purple side of it you have to switch to green side)
thorn gust
ye
slim geyser
bet
thorn gust
obviously make sure they don't conflict with pact condition: routine inspection
like if routine inspection 1 is active, telling the player to choose fated authority is kinda pointless
slim geyser
not sure how i'd do that, but i can try
thorn gust
will be funny having people forced into only having 1 dash
twin thistle
like if routine inspection 1 is active, telling the player to choose fated autho...
fated keys tho
thorn gust
tru
slim geyser
thisll be fun
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/775992887607296021/939280751986364427/unknown.png?width=760&height=427
want to add like a theme or condition segment, like the mothers day monthly challenge one
strong ridge
does pact generate multiple settings?
also add ||companions|| & i don’t get what’s going on with mirror
slim geyser
companions were added, let me fix it
mirror basically generates one you have to choose (like if you get death and you have stubborn you should switch)
pact doesnt but i could
strong ridge
pretty cool
twin thistle
tbh i think instead of keepsakes, having a duo/legendary chosen or a god pool is more interesting
strong ridge
given the nature of rng sakes it would have to be one or other
twin thistle
keepsakes arent really a main feature of a build unless its like plume. especially if youre just switching them around every region
yeah a specific duo is pretty much the equivalent of asking for two gods to be in your pool
strong ridge
either way ya i thin some sort of god focus would be nice
idk what it would lok like tho
slim geyser
hmm i could try
i could try and add the gods as options and then have the output choose two for a god pool kind of thing
slim geyser
thanks!
strong ridge
theres many directions u can take it
the game stores a lot of information about runs from the seeds so maybe that could be helpful
slim geyser
logically a god centered mechanic would make more sense, seeing as its a build generator
oh?
polar quail
yeah
strong ridge
the only way to guarantee a god is through keepsakes or seeding a run
polar quail
first combo I got is overflowing cup, thunder signet, pom blossom. Routine inspection 1. Aspect of hestia
companion battie
twin thistle
flat damage for hestia, excellent
strong ridge
so trying to do rng selection either means one stage is just a godsake or you have to know the run beofre generating the conditions
polar quail
oh and conch shell for elysium
Forgot that.
I might try this
yep I'm doing this after I can finish my hera speedrun attempt
hearty mural
Are you guaranteed a hammer in tartarus?
twin thistle
no. buts its highly likely
slim geyser
okay so im going to change up the generator to focus on teo gods in the pool (basically keepsake dependent)
polar quail
demeter and aphro trial room
slim geyser
ah yes, my favorite god pool
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/836127470725627904/939293235396902922/unknown.png?width=760&height=427
gray apex
lol
slim geyser
need to fix that
oak ibex
Zeus after cloning himself
slim geyser
that might just happen for a bit cause i cant seem to get rid of it
fixed i believe
no more zeus cloning
anything else i should add?
polar quail
died to a normal elysium enemy
slim geyser
f
polar quail
I'm going to go ahead and try that hestia run now, and then go back to my hera bow speedrun after
slim geyser
oh nice
i cant play right now and its very annoying because i want to try out the generator
polar quail
what am I supposed to do for the nyx quest, i went in the administrative chamber but it's not giving me anything
chrome wharf
She needs to say something about the eldest sigil
then it would be added to the work orders
polar quail
oh
she did
But I don't see it, where is it
I'll check after this run to see if I overlooked it
polar quail
I never used the pom blossom before so I'm interested in seeing if it''ll make any difference in styx
slim geyser
i like blossom
polar quail
I usually just equip the acorn for thesus/asterius and hades
But I'm trying out this generator run to try something new
twin thistle
its usually not very useful once youre at styx. like even though youll get a lot of random poms since the mini tunnels count, you have a lot of random boons by then and already have poms on what matters
raw herald
If you have multiple Pom targets it can be useful
polar quail
But I'll equip it once to try it out
slim geyser
usually i use it in asphodel if i already have an okay build and just want the extra levels
chrome wharf
You can start with it and see what the first boon you get is, if it's a good cast, you can give up and switch to Beo/Hera/Achilles/Poseidon, and try not to take other pommable boons in Tart
tada free pom levels
Or hangover
raw herald
Or icy flare 😁
polar quail
oh wait I can totally try out ice wine with this build
slim geyser
whats the build rn?
polar quail
trippy shot/frost flourish/demeter call/drunken strike aspect of hestia
I also have a boon from zeus, clouded judgement I think
slim geyser
ooh
just realized theres an achievement where i have to purge a legendary boon
this will hurt
polar quail
Heading to elysium, following the generator I now have to use the conch shell instead of the acorn
and pom blossom in styx
twin thistle
i usually just theorycraft wacky builds if i wanna do random fun runs lol
slim geyser
interesting
polar quail
it's not that bad. i hope I can replenish a dd though. I'm just used to using the acorn.
I might just not try out the pom blossom in styx.
chrome wharf
Oh are you doing random everything?
polar quail
Oh are you doing random everything?
yeah. random keepsakes and a random pact
slim geyser
yeah i made a generator today
polar quail
i used lex's new generator
slim geyser
polar quail
Oh that's you?
slim geyser
oh cool
chrome wharf
come play with meeee
slim geyser
same here
chrome wharf
yeah the person who started it got busy with life, I got tired of waiting and wrote my own randomizer, then they dropped it entirely so I took over
tbh the last few are all pretty sloggy
Week 2 has RI4 chaos shield
raw herald
I’ve not done them since the first one but I’m glad there’s 32 heat ones now
slim geyser
once i try and get a sub 15 on saturday ill do a totally randomized run
dice roll style
polar quail
Week 2 has RI4 chaos shield <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
so 12 mirror of night talents are blocked out with RI4?
twin thistle
yep
chrome wharf
goodbye mirror
twin thistle
only like. all of them
twin thistle
slim geyser
dyno’d
chrome wharf
there was a DC2 Hestia week if you're into that kind of jazz
polar quail
I really wish I had privileged status on rn
twin thistle
problem with randomizers is you kinda just end up with a crappy build and addin cursed pacts and its kinda
chrome wharf
Yeah like just cursed pact or cursed build is fine, combined is some other kind of
twin thistle
like sometimes youd rather just do shackle strats
chrome wharf
Yup
polar quail
this one worked out fine though.
twin thistle
drunken strike hestia
polar quail
maybe I could've taken lightning strike but ehh
chrome wharf
Did tempest strike Hestia the other day
polar quail
at least its not tempest strike
chrome wharf
Actually pretty useful in keeping enemies inside the special range
I somehow had a feeling Deadly Flourish + Hazard bomb did most of the work
timber whale
Am i the only one who feels like athena buffs are overpowered
polar quail
drunken strike hestia <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
hey, I killed thesus and asterius off pretty quickly just now.. it might not be the best option but I didn't even die once against them by poisoning and chilling them.
Finished the run, that was my best dad fight ever
took the least damage i ever did
polar quail
clearly drunken strike hestia is actually op
at low heat
back to hera bow speedrunning
proud pilot
hey @polar quail o/
polar quail
hey <@!828086631465746453> o/
hello!
proud pilot
Got some good runs today?
proud pilot
oh, can you give me the link plz? will have a look
polar quail
slim geyser
thanks!
slim geyser
what are these icons i see on streams sometimes? obviously the bond forged but what are they for in the corner
marble badge
it is the speedrunning modpack for the modded subcategories on the speedrun.com leaderboards
the keepsake bond icons are basically a hash representing which settings are being used, and only a specific set of them are legal for submissions
slim geyser
ah onay
vital sparrow
what weapon/ aspect should i use to kill hades i keep getting him very low and dyeing
strong ridge
what 1 u like
polar quail
Completed another run!!
strong ridge
ez
twin thistle
if you dont have blood, regular rail works fine. knowing how to build matters more than what aspect youre using
polar quail
I'll probably try 20 heat soon after a few more low heat speedrun attempts for practice
16 heat wasn't too hard
i'm getting comfortable with td2
so i'll be ready to take td3 at 32 heat
slim geyser
i want to try out some higher heats soon as well
slim geyser
what's that 3 sack and 4 sack lingo mean...
how many rooms till they find the satyr sack in styx i think
twin thistle
yeah
slim geyser
whats skellys first prize
strong ridge
awesome
slim geyser
i mean like heat levels
strong ridge
16
polar quail
first prize is 8 heat
strong ridge
danggg
slim geyser
oh god thisll be fun
i want to eventually get all the bounties (up to 20 on all weapons) too
polar quail
i would have two prizes already if the game actually counted me doing 8 and 16 without doing lower heat bounties, but I'm almost at 8 with the bow now so it's fine
at least I didn't do 32 heat yet. imagine getting no prize
twin thistle
did you try interacting with the statues?
polar quail
did you try interacting with the statues?
i don't think I have the statues
twin thistle
well i dont think i had to do the heats 1 by 1 to unlock the statues
brisk trail
8 heat unlocks the statue
then 16 heat...
idk what makes them appear tho
they just show up
polar quail
didn't expect to finish 20 runs
brisk trail
is that it?
polar quail
ik it's not a lot but I haven't had the game that long
cerulean cipher
Question - if I take a god keepsake, but then I choose not to go to that god's room, will I continue to be offered boons from that god until I take one?
polar quail
That's what i heard
polar quail
Question - if I take a god keepsake, but then I choose not to go to that god's r...
yes
brisk trail
now im curious tho how long 20 clears takes ppl
polar quail
now im curious tho how long 20 clears takes ppl
i've been playing since december 27th so...I guess a month and a few days?
subtle coral
twin fists are still dope though
polar quail
demeter fists master race
strong ridge
u sooo can
strong ridge
get er done
polar quail
get that sub 15
brisk trail
does spamming fist special make anyone else's game go slow motion?
slim geyser
does hades count as his own area or part of styx
polar quail
meanwhile i'll keep tying to get sub 20
signal aspen
part of styx
polar quail
part of styx
slim geyser
oh god so i do not have a lot of time to kill him
polar quail
if they gave you separate time for hades sacks wouldn't be as much of an issue
good luck!
brisk trail
i haven't bested theseus yet so i don't know about sack pain yet
well i guess i do know, but not the timer part
mint coral
how much heat is td3 and fo1
9 total
slim geyser
hmmmmm
proud pilot
Just did my first Lucifer run. Well, that was hard lol. I didnt get as lucky as my beo run but i managed to get a "correct" build. Im just not sure how the aspect works in fact. In fact, i can say that i've been lucky because i won dad with 10hp and no DD left 😂
lone kernel
how much heat is td3 and fo1
Td3 is just practice
And knowing to prioritize free rooms
slim geyser
if you do higher then 8 does skelly still give you his prize
proud pilot
yeah i suppose
slim geyser
or is it exactly 8
alr
lone kernel
if you do higher then 8 does skelly still give you his prize
8/16/32 but if u do 32 you get all 3
Chad move
slim geyser
so 9 gives you the 8 prize
proud pilot
yes
slim geyser
haha bet
lone kernel
Em2 will speed you up too
slim geyser
ooh
td3 doesnt sound terrible if i can get through Elysium and Styx fast enough
dad scary
slim geyser
ah
twin thistle
bouldy moment
vital sparrow
well i love this game
i play for like 30 hours and learn he has a second phase
hmmm
proud pilot
we all remember the first time we see that ahah
vital sparrow
well atleast now i have a third death defiance
slim geyser
ayy
proud pilot
damn ok i just watched a lucifer run on YT and i now understand why i rly had a hard time with it, its because i wasnt using the bombs effectively
i had a pretty good build in fact but thats useless if you dont know how to play your weapon
now ive understood the strat
slim geyser
whats lucifers thing again
proud pilot
rail has never been my fav weapon but now at least i understand how to play that aspect
its hiden aspect of rail
mint coral
laser beam
proud pilot
anyway, there's nothing better than my good old gilga fists 😄
mint coral
ramps up dmg and special is higher dmg works like deployable bombs
can put 3 at the time and explode upon damaging them
slim geyser
ah
polar quail
it worked. I didn't realize the trophies were behind the coverings
proud pilot
which one did u unlock?
mint coral
did you like your reward
polar quail
8 and 16
proud pilot
nice
proud pilot
did you like your reward
😂
polar quail
bruh skelly should make a statue of me
proud pilot
i still didnt see the 16 dont spoil me :p
proud pilot
hehe GL
mint coral
"32 is spicy any heat" some players in the speedrunning server
proud pilot
how did u set the pact for your 16 heat?
oh i didnt know their was a speedrun server
will have to join it
mint coral
linked in self promotion pinned msgs
proud pilot
thanks 🙂
thorn gust
I know next to 0 speedrun strategies besides "me go unga bunga" and "dont pick rooms that have scary ghosts in them"
slim geyser
im worried about td3 dad, any tips on killing him faster
mint coral
do more dmg
mint coral
just gotta learn how to set up builds/practice
polar quail
CF1 HL1 UC EM2 TD2 MM LC1 and F01
mint coral
sub 20 doesnt require good sack luck but helps ofc
slim geyser
aiming for sub 15
proud pilot
CF1 HL1 UC EM2 TD2 MM LC1 and F01
ok 🙂 will probably do something similar i think
polar quail
that was my 16 heat
proud pilot
i think i can do EM3 so i'll have to look what i can remove
polar quail
yeah I hadn't really tried em3 yet
mint coral
em3 is fun
proud pilot
its not a big difference, im sure you can do it without problem
im scared of EM4 tho
lol
polar quail
I'll try it next run
slim geyser
em3 is hilarious and em4 scares me
proud pilot
exactly lol
maiden crown
slim geyser
theseus just has a gun. why? no clue, he just does
mint coral
dont forget the mask
slim geyser
and more or less a tank
polar quail
my next run I'll use aspect of beowulf
polar quail
beowulf fun
flood flare
proud pilot
beowulf OP
slim geyser
ooh